Jan. 7, 2026

Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Season Seven

Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Season Seven
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Season 7Phasers Set To Stun

On Phasers Set To Stun, we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more!

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set the Stun,

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where we continue to show our love for everything Star

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Trek and is ongoing theories from a film by podcast

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which focuses on every quadrant of the expanding universe of

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Trek by covering television, animation, movies, directors, and more. Plotting

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the course, as always is your Core Trek career. I'm

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David Burns.

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And I'm Scott Hofman.

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And I'm Wayne Whiten.

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In this episode, we continue our discussion and what we'd

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like to call Starter Trek a curated episode list for

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first time viewers of Star Trek Deep Space nine. This

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spoiler list free focuses on what we think are the

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ten episodes from each season we think you should watch.

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In this episode, we are focusing on season seven. Well, gentlemen,

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we have finally reached not only the end of the war,

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but also the end of this series. With season seven.

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It has definitely been a roller coaster of a ride

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these last few seasons, and well, if you haven't seen

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the end of season six, I'm afraid we do not

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have a choice but to discuss at least one major spoiler. Yeah,

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this of course, involves the introduction of a new character,

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every Dax, played by Nicole de Boor, who played Sarah

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Bannerman in the Dead Zone TV series. If you guys

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have ever seen that not good show, it was very

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good show. Guys. This might come as a shocker to you,

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but I honestly like Ezri a whole lot better than

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jed Zia. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying

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that I didn't like Gedzia. I'm just saying I enjoyed

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Azrie much more on screen. I felt she brought such

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an innocence to the character, almost childlike in her discovering

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who she is and what she is doing. I'm sure

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neither the one who would probably agree with me on this,

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but I really enjoyed Azrie more, which also helped me

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love this season so much better.

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I appreciate the job that Nicole did, and I appreciate

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a lot of aspects of the character. It's very hard

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for me to fully embrace the character in that way

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because I still have the next doctor syndrome. Honestly, Yeah,

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because I loved what Terry Farrell had done. I loved

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the character of Judzia Dackson. I know that you're not

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disparaging either one another of mine, but I felt like

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we we the only the only one of the two

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that could have any kind of the kind of depth

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that jed Z has is jed Z because she had

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six whole seasons, right, And I think it would be

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interesting if we were going to see more of Ezrie.

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I certainly wouldn't mind seeing her come back in a

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future series. But no, I mean, I think it's good

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to mention, you know, appreciating what Nicole had done with

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with Ezri and appreciating the character a bit more. I

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will say that I appreciated her more in a rewatch

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than I did in the first viewing of this season

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because I had just had my armshole the whole time.

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Where's Yeah, Yeah, I definitely agree with you there. You know,

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Nicole did a grand, great job. She's she's a great character,

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completely different dynamic and that's tough. I mean, she coming

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in right at the end of a series like this,

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you know, being forced for everyone to accept her as

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the new Dacs that that's tough. And you know, while

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I fell in love with Terry Farrell and her character,

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you know, I can very attachment. I was really upset

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when they killed her off. But I like Nicole. She

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did a good job of do different completely different performance,

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different style of backs. So I agree with both of you.

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Actually, I think the both did a fantastic job. So

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we'll leave it at that. You know, listeners, if you

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can decide which one you like, but you're probably gonna

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like both of them like we do. Yeah, it's very

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tough to come in to a series and take over

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a role for only one season when the character has

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been with us for six seasons. So I mean that's

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that's a challenge. I think she did a great job,

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but to one, what she was given for sure totally fair.

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So this season really is Star Trek like you have

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never seen on TV, with epic battles exploding across the

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screen in epic fashion, I might say, lots of character

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developments and of course closure to so many that we

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have gotten to know over this series. Season seven. Season

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seven really is one of my favorites for the entire series.

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To be honest, it's dark and there is one episode

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in this season that is my favorite of the entire series.

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And yes, we'll be discussing that in our Top ten.

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I'm not talking about one that one, but one of

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you will be and I'm not gonna say which one

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it is. You'll probably guess when we get to it.

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So with that does talk about our top ten? Scott,

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I believe you got the first winter.

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Yeah, we're starting out with the first episode, Images in

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the Sand, written by Iris, Stephen Beer and Hans Biemler,

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directed by Les Landau. The damages from last season, specifically

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at the death of jed Zia Dax, have taken a

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toll on DS nine. Cisco left the station for Earth,

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working at his father's restaurant with Jake as he reflects

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on what he's lost. He leaves Major Kira in charge

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of DS nine to manage the new relationship with the Romulins,

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who have joined the war against the Dominion. She finds

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herself at odds with a Romulin senator who wants to

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build a hospital on of Bejor's moons, but Kira suspects

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they want more than healthcare. It also finds Warf struggling

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with grief more than usual, since he believes that Jedzea's

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soul needs help getting into Stovecore the Klingon Afterlife. He's

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joined by O'Brien, Bashir, and Martog on a mission that

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will help earn jed Zia the honored passing she deserves.

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This episode largely follows Cisco as a vision from the

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prophets shows him a mysterious face in the sand. This

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face sends him on a personal mission, as the face

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has ties to his family, uncovering a secret his father

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has hidden for years. It also reveals a strange connection

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to Baijor from before Ben was born. At the end

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of the episode, a strangely familiar visitor arrives as redacts

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with a promise of helping Ben move forward in many

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different ways. It was hard to know how much to

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talk about Ezri or how we would kind of birch

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that subject, so I'm glad we just jumped right into it.

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It's also an episode that really sets up so many

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of the metaphysical threads that go through this entire season.

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A lot. There's a lot of it.

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Yeah, it's the profits, It's stove acore. It's a lot

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of different things that makes it a very interesting and

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very different kind of Star Trek.

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Yeah, and you're stillly dealing with the founders and stuff

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like that, so it's really really heavy throughout this and

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there's a lot to tie up before the end of this.

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So it's like, you know, there's a lot of loopens

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that they had to deal with, and I thought they

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did a pretty good job with it, to be honest

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with you, Yeah, I agree.

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Yeah, And you know, one thing I got to mention is,

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especially with this episode, which is why I want to

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bring it up now, is you know, this series has

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always had a very impressive secondary cast, and this season

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we're starting to see them being elevated up. They have

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more prominent roles in the stories, and they appear more frequently.

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And there are so many of them that appear in

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this episode pretty much, you know, over half of them.

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It's it's sometimes it feels like it might be hard

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to follow the characters, but it really isn't. They do

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a really good job of writing them all. But I

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had to point that out that it's great that we

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have such a large cast for the end of the show.

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You know, sometimes you think it would be tough to

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write for that many characters, but I think they handled

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every one of them beautifully by the time we got

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the end of this season, and they wrapped up their

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stories perfectly in my opinion.

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Yeah, yeah, even on the kind of the villain side,

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so to speak, with Jeffery Combs as Wyoun Casey Biggs

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as DeMar Martok Admiral Ross like, they all did standout performances,

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and Joseph Cisco's as Brock Peters as Joseph Cisco. They

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all have great threads, and you would think with this

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deep of a series, I guess Pun intended, it might

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seem difficult to do so, but I think they handle

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it really, really well.

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They did. And it took me the longest time to

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realize that Vic Fontayne was James Darren because he's a

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very clanic, classic actor who's been in a ton of stuff,

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and it's like, oh, he's great. I know him from somewhere,

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and of course, you know, growing up in the in

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the eighties, I reckon him from t J. Hooker.

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Never thought we'd get that reference.

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Not at all. Hey, William Shatton was involved with it.

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It's still struts that's valid.

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Yeah, absolutely, all right. Well, let's move on to episode two, Wayne.

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And that is Shadows and Symbols, written by Iris, Stephen

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Bear and Hans Biemler and directed by Alan Croker. Captain

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Cisco remains on Earth, struggling with grief over jed Zia

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Dax's death and a crisis of faith after stepping away

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from his role as the Emissary in last season's finale, Cisco,

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along with his father Joseph, his son Jake, and the

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new host of the Dax Symbient, Ezri, traveled to the

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planet Tyree in search of the orb of the Emissary,

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which he hopes will reveal his place in the universe.

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On Deep Space nine, Kara Odo and the remaining crew

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contend with the growing dominion influences Bajor's political future becomes

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increasingly unknown. Warf Morn's Dax and questions his place among

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the Klingons, while the fragile Federation Klingon Alliance begins to

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show signs and stream. Now, this is a rather unusual

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episode to have this early in the season, only because

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it's you know, we've we've been promised a lot of

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these full on war stories with the dominion war, you know,

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after the last season's finale, But this is a rather

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small and quiet episode. It's mainly used for character building,

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but it's also a very necessary episode. You know, with

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the start of the seventh season, there are so many

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stories happening all at the same time, plots left over

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from last season. On top of that, we're having to

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introduce the audience to a new character, you know, as

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we just mentioned. But this is this episode has just

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used more as a kind of a little softer reset

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for the series. Reminds all of us that to D

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Space nine is a character driven series first and foremost,

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just like the Next Generation was, It's not just a

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war story with a lot of space battles and flashy

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visual effects. If it's the pause we got early that

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it really paves the ground for the rest of the season.

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But now with that being said, I'm not sure that

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I like the change they made for Cisco about his past.

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I won't say anymore because it's it's a big spoiler,

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but it just it just doesn't sit well with me.

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But here it is, and it's important to the rest

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of the season the story, and not nothing can really

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do about it, so you just have to kind of

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accept it. But I mean, that's my.

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Opinion of it. All I can say is take me

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out of the oven, moogie, I am cooked.

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Yeah, Yeah, I agree, Wayne. I think I didn't really

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even remember the revelation that we get in this kind

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of two part are so to speak, even though it's

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like a and then the whole thing is connected. Skipped

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the episodes, but when I remembered the ending, but I

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didn't remember the kind of connection they set up here.

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And yeah, I think it. I think it could have

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gone a different way. I feel like it takes something

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away from what happens at the end and what he's

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been going through the entire time. But we can't say

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anything also about that.

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But we can because because you know, Cisco has always

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been a very human character. He's got a lot of flaws.

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has been tried. He's made decisions, good decisions and bad decisions,

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and and and changing his character. It's so hard to

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try to talk around what's really happening. But changing his

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character in this direction feels like you take away from

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that humanity and I don't like that.

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to write for d Space nine.

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one of the characters for the entire season, because you

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the best story arc of this entire season I believe

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belonged to Kira because she really shows major fortitude in

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this episode, but it goes on further what she has

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to go through, what she has to do by the

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time we get to the end of this season, especially

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from her past on who she's helping.

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And she got a promotion.

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very fitting. All right, Let's move on to episode three,

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which is Treachery, Faith and the Great River directed by

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Stephen Posey, written by David Weddell and Bradley Thompson. Odo

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and help him escape. Nog is doing what farringis do best,

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following the Great material continuum by wheeling and dealing as

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he wants to get a piece of equipment that Chief

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O'Brien desperately needs in order to meet a deadline demanded

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upon him from Captain Soscope. So, guys, you know you're

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still digging into some deep stuff here with as we

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know where this is going through the season. But I

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have to say, Nog in this episode is just absolutely

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brilliant again because as you guys remember, he did this

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very similar with Jake a few seasons ago, and I

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feel like we needed some comic relief and we get

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it here because some of the things when Chief O'Brien

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gives permission to Nog using his code and the stuff

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that starts disappearing, And I don't want to say too

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much because I want to leave the fun stuff to

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the listeners who've never seen this episode. And what the

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reaction that Chief O'Brien has to have when he is

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confronted with this stuff is.

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for Jeffrey Combs as Will playing multiple roles. I forget

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if we have we talked about the head count for Jeffrey,

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like how many no bacon and then connected to so

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many things. But he does a great job in this one.

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brought up and being very playing a very important part

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in this episode. Plus I I love the scene where

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he's trying to eat that pizza with those chop stix

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right every time.

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really don't see in the world of Star Trek. Is

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you know the kind of collectors who are collecting captain stuff.

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a great balance of comedy and drama because they know

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that it's the end of the season, it's got to

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be a heavy one, and they still find ways to

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keep it light.

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and I will say this one is my favorite the

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entire Deep Space nine. Scott go for it.

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This is the Siege of Ar five five eight by

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David Weddell and Hans Biemler, directed by Winrit Colby. The

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Federation have captured a Dominion communications array with a high

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strategic value, and the Defiant crew has been dispatched to

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help defend the outpost of AR five five eight that

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guards it. Cisco, Nog, Quark, Ezridax, and Bashir are among

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the crew on the front lines as they find a

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war torn squad has been defending this position relentlessly. Their

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threats include ongoing attacks from the Dominion and Houdini minds,

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which appear out of subspace at random times and specific

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locations so you never know where or when they'll go off.

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This battalion is filled with war based, psychological and physical scars,

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and they find themselves on the edge of defeat. With

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two thirds of this battalion dead, Cisco steps up to

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lead an effort to turn the tide and save them.

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This is a particularly important episode for Nog, who truly

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shines as an officer and a character in this episode,

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despite protective protests from his uncle Quark. That's an important

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turning point for Nog and several other characters, and although

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much darker than Canal Star Trek episodes, it's one that

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cannot be missed. It's definitely a war heavy episode. There

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were times when it felt like almost like a mash

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episode or more serious Platoon or something like that. Right,

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the cinematography with this one is so dark at times

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you have to kind of squint to see what you're seeing.

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But it's it's a It's an amazing arc for both

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Quark and Dog. But what they put the rest of

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the time through is is crazy.

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You're you're seeing exactly what happens to people who are

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on the front line, soldiers who are put to the

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test beyond the you know what the line is that

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they can handle, and you you see that in this episode.

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you're getting into the mentality of the soldiers that you

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never see with Starfleet. We did see an episode that

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was strange world to remember. Yeah, we did the Klingon

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war and I absolutely love that because this is these

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are stuff you don't really see in the world of

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star Trek in Starfleet because they're not a warring organization.

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to do it. But what I loved about it was

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just seeing the front lines like this, like you would

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see infantry in the in the trenches dealing with and

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you know, Cisco and them being forced you know, in

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there with them. But what I absolutely loved is they

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picked characters who are not the warriors. M Yeah, yeah,

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Warf is back on the ship, but exactly where he

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needs to because we need to see the characters who

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don't know how really to be on the front lines

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getting to see how their reactions are on the front lines.

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we're seeing through their eyes like a soldier would be.

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Who's just me getting to the front lines for the

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first time. You're getting to see those veterans who have

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been out there for months and months getting that death stare.

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And that's what I love about this. But very cinematic.

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The light was incredible in some of those scenes, especially

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when Cork was talking that, like, the lighting on him

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was fantastic. But Scott, you mentioned Platoon. There is the

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scene towards the end of the episode when they're the

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big battle. The score there was so close to Platoon

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that it was ridiculous.

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I think so too, And it was amazing of what

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we witnessed in this episode. And there were so many

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character actors in this. Bill Muomey, who was in this

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from Babylon five obviously lost in space, James Darren again

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playing Vic Raymond Cruz as Vargas, who I think was

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incredible in this episode absolutely, and Patrick Patrick Kirkpatrick, he

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was really good in this. About so many things happened

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in this episode. This keeps you on the edge of

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your seat that there's no doubt on my mind. This

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was my favorite of all of Deep Space.

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Well, and you mentioned that giant battle scene with that

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score that fell so close to pot too, and an

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interesting needle drop just before that I thought was being

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kind of I was kind of listening for it to

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be a like a orchestral repurpose of that needle drop,

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which it wasn't. But it was interesting that I was

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like expecting that or thinking that the entire time I

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was listening to it.

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a composer. We've never talked about that, Paul Bellargian. His

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score is fantastic in this. I think it's probably one

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of my favorite, at least the top five favorite scores

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from Deep Space nine Great Score. It is available on

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volume one of d Space nine's collection from Wooland I'm

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so glad because I love listening to it.

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It's a great, great score. He's a good composer. Yep.

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I think if I would to go back to pick

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my favorite Quark theme, it would be in this episode

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when he gives the speech about humans to not Oh yeah,

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that was phenomenal.

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this one.

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He truly is an There's no opportunity to exploit, there's

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no profit to be gained. He just wants to protect

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his nephew. At the same time, he wants to respect

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his nephew's wishes because he sees how seriously he's taking

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his new role.

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Yeah, and this is This is considered one of the

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the most one of the best episodes of the series

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by most fans. You know, it's it's odd to think that,

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you know, there's a lot of controversy behind the scenes.

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They did not want to make this episode. The production

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did not want to make it everyone, you know, they

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but they were determined to do this. They really wanted

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to show the horrors of the war and I'm so

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glad that they did this because it really is the

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highlight of the season.

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Yeah, it puts to start Traking a whole new level

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with this episode. It really really did.

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Yeah well, And I mean even though I know that

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there's some you know, there's some views where they say,

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like this isn't what they think of as Star Trekers

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because there's so much battle, because there's so much war,

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but it is interesting to show it in this way,

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to show this close to the front lines, to see

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what of things they're trying to prevent, all the negotiations,

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with all of the you know, mini missions that would

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never get to the front lines, like this, you can

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understand the depth and the importance of those missions that

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they go in.

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Yep. Absolutely all right, gentlemen. So before we move on

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to our next episode, let's go ahead and take a

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break and we'll come back. We will continue our top

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ten of season seven Deep Space nine. Welcome back listeners

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to Phaser sets done. We were continuing our discussion of

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Star Trek Deep Space nine Season seven. Wayne, you have

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our fifth pick.

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And I apologize because I didn't take Latin and I'm

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probably gonna butcher this. Enter Arma Amendment silent legas Good

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by Ronald d. More, directed by David Livingston. Doctor Julian

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Bisheer is recruited by Section thirty one agent Luther Sloan

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to attend a medical conference on Romulus, where he is

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asked to secretly give his medical evaluation on a top

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Romulin political candidate. But Bashir discovers that Section thirty one

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is manipulating Romulin internal power struggles to keep the Romulin

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Star Empire firmly allied with the Federation against the Dominion.

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As the plot unfolds, Basher learns that honorable Romulin Senator

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Cretac is being framed, while a ruthless Talshiar leader named

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Kovo is secretly backed by Section thirty one. Now there's

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a lot I can't talk about due to spoilers in

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this episode there, but this is the season's star piece

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for Alexander Sidik. It's a real It's a very unsettling

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episode because it deals with the morals of war and

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just how far someone will go to win a war.

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But it's probably my favorite of the Section thirty one

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episodes that they did because it shows them at their

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most secretive and ruthless and cunning.

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I love that I get to work. Yeah, I done.

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William Sadler is he's back playing Luther Sloan and he

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gives his best performance. Of course is my and as

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the character in this episode. But I'll warn you first

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time viewers, there's nothing neat and tidy about.

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The conclusion of this episode.

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It ventures into some very dark territory. There's no easy answers.

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It's kind of left for the viewers to decide what

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is right and what is wrong on that episode. That's

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one of the reasons why I like it so much.

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You know, it's it's great. It's a great episode. It's

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the last standalone episode of the series before the big

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nine part finale where everything's connected, so you just you know,

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I love it. That's all I can say. This is

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this is probably my favorite episode of the entire season,

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although the one you chose is very very close behind them.

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And let's let's not forget the lovely Adrian Barbo take

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over Cretic. Oh yes, and this episode yes so that

468
00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:51.480
I hurt her because of Adrian Barbo. I cannot miss

469
00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:52.160
that voice.

470
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.160
Yeah, yeah, she's good in this episode.

471
00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:59.079
Two and I believe that the original actor couldn't come

472
00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:00.839
back because it get I think it was.

473
00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:02.079
I think that was the reason.

474
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:04.440
Yeah, so they had to get Adriab, which is a

475
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:06.599
step up in my opinion. But hey, nothing against all

476
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:10.519
the other actors. But I love Adrian Borrow. Yeah, love her.

477
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:13.039
But yeah, this is another one of those mind binning episodes.

478
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:17.599
And we're not done with section thirty one just yet.

479
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.680
That's coming up rather soon, I should say, Yep, we'll

480
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:24.799
get there eventually. But yeah, no, I agree with you.

481
00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:27.720
It's a very good episode, probably one of the better

482
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:28.880
ones of the season for sure.

483
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:29.799
Yeah.

484
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:33.720
Can I just do a many spoiler pause? Yeah, you'll

485
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:35.920
have to watch this episode before we talk about one

486
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.519
of the other episodes that we're going to talk about,

487
00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:40.440
So it might be a good idea to pause right

488
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:43.720
here and finish up. But anyway, go ahead.

489
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:46.559
Yeah, you have to kind of watch the season in order. Anyways,

490
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:48.839
the other words you do very confusingly.

491
00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:53.079
Yeah, you would, for sure, good grief. And they had

492
00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:54.759
the white dress uniforms in.

493
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:57.200
This oh yeah. This this air aired at right after

494
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:58.400
a start Trek insurrection.

495
00:25:58.759 --> 00:25:59.000
Yep.

496
00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:01.799
So yeah, and they look good in him, they did that.

497
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:03.759
I like those uniforms of the pity that they weren't

498
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.359
able to use in even any of the series.

499
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:09.880
Really yep, absolutely all right, Well, let's move on to

500
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:13.720
the sixth pick, which is Till Death Do Us Part

501
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:17.720
directed by Winrich Colby, written by David Weddll and Bradley Thompson.

502
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:20.319
Benjamin Cisco has finally arrived at what should be the

503
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:24.039
happiest moment in his life, but the Prophets think otherwise.

504
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:26.839
They believe that Cisco should not go through with his marriage,

505
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.720
forcing him to make a drastic decision. Elsewhere As rain Worf,

506
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.079
who have been captured by the Brain for some unknown reason,

507
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.480
are trying to figure a way out and an understanding

508
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:38.839
of their situation. Meanwhile, some of the Kardashians are beginning

509
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:41.400
to believe their alliance with the Dominion is a mistake,

510
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:44.720
while Gold Is disguised as a Bajoran, arrives on Deep

511
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:48.519
Spassine to further push his plan, which involves none other

512
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:52.359
than kai Win. That's right, Louise Fletcher, the lovely Louise

513
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:58.720
Fletcher is back as kai Win. Yes, absolutely so, I

514
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:02.279
definitely highly recommend in the episode. Watch the recap to

515
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:06.000
this episode because we didn't choose that one for the

516
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:09.000
top ten because I mean, we really couldn't because if

517
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:11.039
we did choose all these, we'd have almost the whole

518
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:14.319
season we'd be talking about for trying out. So I

519
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.799
highly workimm it. Do not blow through the the recap

520
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:18.480
at the beginning of this one. Watch it because it'll

521
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:20.359
catch you up pretty fast on the episode that happened

522
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:21.079
before this one.

523
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:23.759
That's good advice for all the episodes, really, I mean,

524
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.640
they're gonna have recaps a lot of them. It's we couldn't,

525
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:29.960
you know, it's all continuing story. We couldn't choose all

526
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.000
the episodes, so we had to kind of choose our

527
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:35.880
top ten. So just just just follow the recaps and

528
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:37.319
try to fill yourself in real quick.

529
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.599
Yeah yeah, and along those lines, I mean, I think

530
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.240
anybody who has been listening through, if you're a first

531
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.599
time viewer, you're probably not gonna want to skip through

532
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:52.480
very much, if any part of this last season. I mean,

533
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.160
we'll probably have some you know, we have a mentioned

534
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:58.640
probably coming up, but i'd say, you know, if you

535
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:01.400
want a curated, quick our way through it, you can

536
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:04.160
stick with our list. But I think once you get

537
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:06.759
through it, you'll want to go ahead and watch the

538
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.839
rest of the season anyway, just because there is there

539
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.160
is so much to it. It's a very satisfying ending

540
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:12.640
to the series.

541
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.519
I'd say, especially these last nine episodes, because you know,

542
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.079
we didn't choose any two parties because they're all they're

543
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:22.400
all yeah, but the last nine episodes are one whole

544
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:25.559
continuing story that that you know, jumps right from one

545
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:27.440
to the other. So if you're going to watch them,

546
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:29.680
I'll just watch the last nine. We did have to

547
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.359
skip some big ones to make it a top ten,

548
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:34.039
but you know, what can you do?

549
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:36.200
That's right, there's not much you can do but it

550
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:37.640
We'll be talking a whole season, so we can't do it.

551
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:40.480
I Also, I feel like this is one where I

552
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:43.559
feel like the profits should have butted out of Cisco's business.

553
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:45.480
Yeah.

554
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.759
I get where they're trying to protect and they're trying

555
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.319
to make sure that things go in a certain direction,

556
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:52.200
but come on, man, like he's been through seven seasons

557
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:55.480
of this and you've been pulling the strings the entire time.

558
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:56.880
Let them let them have this.

559
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:58.720
He's not a lot to be happy, Scott. Come on.

560
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.599
There's two points I want to bring up on this too,

561
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:07.920
for when I was watching it, you know. Wharf states

562
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:09.920
that no one's ever seen what a brain looks like.

563
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.799
And that's true, that we have never seen what a

564
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.640
brain looks like, at least until I starts her discovery.

565
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.480
But I think Kira must have forgot to tell Wharf

566
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.559
that she looked like yeah, that what they look like

567
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.319
is she took off a Breen uniform and was wearing it. Yep,

568
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.599
I don't know. And then also Kaiwin states that she

569
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.359
never had an ORB experience, but way back in season

570
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.640
one's finale, during her first appearance, she tells Cisco that

571
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.880
she speaks to the prophets through the orbs all the times.

572
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:42.279
But but see on that one. I'll accept it because

573
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:44.200
I think she was lying back then, Oh yeah, I

574
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:45.400
think Win's full of.

575
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:50.599
You know a yeah, exactly, no doubt. All right, well

576
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:54.079
let's move on, Scott, You've got a pick yep.

577
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:56.599
And that one is The Changing Face of Evil Written

578
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:01.880
by David Weddell and Hans Biemler, Written directed by Mike Biehar.

579
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.599
We begin with horrifying news the Brain have attacked Starfleet

580
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.519
headquarters in San Francisco on Earth, as shown by the

581
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:12.200
burning Golden gate bridge. This new dominion brin alliance is

582
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.039
a significant shift in power during an already taxing war,

583
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.000
and it's not the only change we see is this

584
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:21.799
episode title suggests Kaiwin and Dukat's relationship continues to become

585
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.640
more disturbing and dangerous as kai gets her hands on

586
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:28.839
some powerful artifacts related to the pop Raths with deadly consequences.

587
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.440
We also see a pivotal battle between the Federation and

588
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.480
the Dominion, which brings the Defiant closure to danger than ever.

589
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:38.000
We also see a significant point and the contentious relationship

590
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:40.799
between William and Damar, which leads up to an important

591
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:44.000
moment for Cadessia. There are way too many important things

592
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.359
to discuss without getting into spoiler territory, as we have

593
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.240
to say with every episode, but it's clearly an important

594
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:55.720
episode to discuss. I will say that it's interesting Luis

595
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:59.559
Fletcher's character of Kai Win and the relationship she has

596
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:04.640
with but Jordan Dicott, because when I think of Dolores Umbridge,

597
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.039
I don't necessarily think of her having a romantic relationship,

598
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.359
and I can't help but think of Dolores Umbridge from

599
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:16.400
Harry Potter whenever I think of kai Wine. It man,

600
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:21.519
we have to see this, but it's it's interesting. I mean,

601
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:24.400
it's it's disturbing and you can see where it goes.

602
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:28.279
It's got to be a relief for for the actor

603
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:35.720
who plays uh Dicott mark Alimo to be basically out

604
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:36.880
of makeup for a while.

605
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:38.759
I'm sure he was happy about by the way.

606
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.920
Yeah, and he continues to do a great job being

607
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.680
a disturbing character like Dicott has not become any less

608
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:50.559
unhinged than he was before. Yeah, there's so much in

609
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:52.079
this episode that we can talk about.

610
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.359
It's it is a disturbing image, but I understand exactly

611
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.640
where they're going through. You know, she's she's in bed

612
00:31:57.640 --> 00:31:59.960
with the enemy. She doesn't know that he's a Cardias see,

613
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.079
but that I understand. There there's the symbolism that's going here,

614
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:04.319
and I like it.

615
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.640
Oh yeah, it's a good twist to the story, uh

616
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:09.359
and how it's going to unfold at the end of

617
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:11.240
the season. So no, I think it was great that

618
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.480
the writers went this route because it just added that

619
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.680
that extra tension U to that to that portion of it.

620
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:19.960
And I know we'll could probably get to talk about

621
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.000
a little bit that without getting to spoilers when we

622
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.400
get to the final episode here. But yeah, I think

623
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:26.640
they did a really good job with that.

624
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.480
One thing. I want to say that this bothers me.

625
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:33.160
I'm not doesn't have a problem watching because I do

626
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.119
like this episode. I think this is really really good episode.

627
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:35.599
But this this.

628
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:39.880
Bothers me a lot. As a trecky fan, I find

629
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.240
it very hard. And this is like steering around the

630
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:47.039
edge of spoilers but not quite okay, so I find it.

631
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.519
I really have a hard time believing that the breen

632
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:53.519
Fleet or any fleet can get that close to Earth.

633
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.039
I really can. I mean, didn't the Federation learn anything

634
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.960
from like the boards, Well, yeah, the board twice, you know,

635
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.039
they've appeared in twice Earth's or even the Zendi's attack

636
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:09.200
on Florida. I mean, I I me know, I'm glad

637
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.640
that by the time it starts, Trek a car in

638
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:12.839
the twenty fifth century comes around the week finally got

639
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.640
a planetary defense system to protect the plane. But why

640
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.279
in the heck did it takes a law the ridiculous?

641
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.319
I mean, is there not even a ship or anything

642
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.240
floating around Earth or something, you know, a cannon or

643
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:28.799
I don't know. They need to take a the Federation

644
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.279
needs to take a little a cue from from the

645
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:35.680
Rebel Alliance, you know, build a big cannon or something

646
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.000
that they can shoot. I don't know you're talking.

647
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.640
You're talking about Starflik, who still cannot realize that androids

648
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:41.720
could be dangerous.

649
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.599
Yeah, that's right.

650
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.480
Or at least take a cue from Spaceballs and just

651
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:48.880
put a big shield around the planet.

652
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:57.000
Yeah, yeah, a new joke. All right. Well, let's move on, guys. Uh,

653
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.200
let's move on to our eighth Pickwayne.

654
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.359
And that's Tacking into the Wind. Written by Ronald D.

655
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.000
Moore and directed by Mike Veher. The kling On Empire

656
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.719
nears the Brinka collapses, Martok faces political isolation and a

657
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:16.400
devastating loss of honor. Seen as a political threat to Gowron,

658
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.599
Warf challenges the corrupt Chancellor, facing him in a fight

659
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.119
to the death in order to restore the disgraced general's

660
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.880
place in the empire. Back on Cardassia, Damar's resistance suffers

661
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:32.199
a major blow when Dominion forces brutally execute his family,

662
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:36.199
which only hardens has resolved to fight back. However, Kiera

663
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.320
struggles to support Damar, but helps him in despite her

664
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.239
hatred of the Cadeceians recognizes the necessity of unity against

665
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:48.920
the Dominion. This is a very emotionally charged episode, to

666
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:52.280
put it lightly. You know, there is so much happening

667
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.079
in this episode, and it's but it's not confusing or

668
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:56.679
hard to follow that. That's one thing I want to

669
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.199
strad It's just it's kind of hard to talk about

670
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.639
without these oilers. I may have touched a little bit

671
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:04.000
on in that narrative, but I had to make a

672
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.599
decision what to say and what to would be bigger,

673
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.559
So I kind of mentioned the small ones here. But

674
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.559
the Klingon story is probably the most important of the

675
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.960
three stories that are happening here. And you know, with

676
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.639
this episode, we pretty much fondly say goodbye to the

677
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.000
Klingons of the twenty fourth century. This is the last

678
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:25.480
episode to prominently feature them as a race in any

679
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.400
of Star Trek, because you know, with voyagers going on,

680
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.320
but all they have is Belona Taurus, you know, they're

681
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:31.760
so far away from the Klingon Empire.

682
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:32.280
This is it.

683
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:36.039
But the Kardassian story is also very important to pay

684
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.280
attention to because there's a lot of character growth that

685
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.800
will play a really important part in the final remaining

686
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:44.199
episodes of the series. You know, the whole episode is

687
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.079
a turning point, not just for those characters but for

688
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:47.599
the series.

689
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:51.239
One of the best lines in that episode was when

690
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:54.000
they say, great men don't seek power, it is thrust

691
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:57.679
upon them. I absolutely love that line. I know they

692
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:01.239
were quoting, but still I think that's very perfect for

693
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:04.000
the situation that was going on. And I don't want

694
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.880
to give away anything, but when that scene happens and

695
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:10.039
that set to that certain character, I just think it

696
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:14.360
added so much depth to the situation, is what it did.

697
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:15.400
Yeah.

698
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:18.360
I mean when you talk about how it's hard to

699
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.039
skirt around with spoilers, because I mean these next three

700
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.239
picks that we're talking about, there's so much going on

701
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.639
because we're getting closure of the entire series now, and

702
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:29.400
it's tough to skirt around some of this.

703
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.320
They're almost all spoilers beginning to end it.

704
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:34.960
Really, they really are, because it's so full and they

705
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.920
have to, you know, they don't have a choice. But

706
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.400
this is just building up to what we're going to

707
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.719
get that we're talking about in these next final episodes.

708
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.280
Yeah, and I mean, as we are wrapping up that

709
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:51.639
clingon storyline, just a shout out to jig Hertzler as

710
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:57.639
Martak and Robert O'Reilly specifically as Garon. Robert O'Reilly has

711
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:03.880
this hypnotic hie flair man every single time you see

712
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:08.039
him one you know, unscreen, it's it's just a great

713
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:09.960
character use.

714
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.039
They look right through you, that's what they do.

715
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:17.119
Yeah, And his story with along with Wharfs, and the

716
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.360
whole story between Wharf and Gowran has always been a

717
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.840
very fascinating one and it's been going on all the

718
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:25.400
way back nine years now, since nineteen ninety. But if

719
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.480
you look what happens in this episode and then remember

720
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.840
back to what happened in Goweron's first appearance, there's a

721
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:35.440
nice symmetry between the two personal last appearances.

722
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.440
Yep, yeah, absolutely, all right, Well, let's move on to

723
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:42.360
the ninth pick. This is going to be in relation

724
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.239
to an episode that we just talked a little bit ago,

725
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:48.719
an episode called Extreme Measures, directed by Steven Posey, written

726
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.920
by David Weddell and Bradley Thompson. The war continues among

727
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.440
the stars while the disease affecting Odo Ravage is his

728
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.000
body more and more, forcing Doctor Bashir and Chief O'Brien

729
00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:00.519
to go to extreme measures to find an answer. They

730
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:03.519
four section thirty one, Sloan out of hiding and they're

731
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:05.199
going to do whatever it takes to help find a

732
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:09.199
cure for their friend. However, everything they do crosses a

733
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.840
line that Starfleet will approve of, which will put O'Brien

734
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.920
and Basher into a position they never imagine, which we'll

735
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.880
put and put their friendship to an all new test.

736
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:21.599
Now again, there's tiny bits of some spoilers in there,

737
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:24.440
but we can't get around them because of what happens.

738
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.880
That's what this whole episode's about. So, I mean, we

739
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:28.840
really can't discuss this episode if we couldn't give a

740
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:35.280
little bit of spoilers away. I'm sorry, but this episode, man,

741
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.559
I mean Williams Saller obviously is back as Luther Sloan,

742
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.639
and I tell you, man, it really crosses a line

743
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:47.320
for me. And you know you're dealing with you're going

744
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:52.199
to possibly kill somebody to save somebody. Does that not

745
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:57.480
cross a line somewhere that you're sacrificing one to save another?

746
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.880
It definitely goes against Starfleet's ethics.

747
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.119
Yeah, And I mean the episode forces you to struggle

748
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:06.599
with that. So by the time you get through the

749
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:08.760
end of it, I mean you're you're questioning the things

750
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.519
that are going on, and you're like, should this really

751
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:14.320
be happening? And then the end what happens, You're like, damn,

752
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:16.800
I don't know how I feel about.

753
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:19.920
This right As kind of a microcosm of a situation,

754
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:24.639
a larger situation that asks the same question, Yeah, how

755
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:29.480
is this possibly something that's justifiable that they're doing right,

756
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:35.599
I would say these last three episodes, when we just

757
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:39.039
talked about this one and the next one, are also

758
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.280
very important. I would say probably before you see Piccard

759
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:48.360
season three, is that fair because there there are elements

760
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:50.440
of that same kind of discussion that come up there.

761
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:54.039
Yep, it's the whole you know, the ends justify the

762
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:59.679
means type of storyline. I like this episode. I like

763
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.039
the other section thirty one better, but this is a

764
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:04.239
good episode because it's a good It's a good Basher

765
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.039
and O'Brien episode, very good, and I'm glad that the

766
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.320
series took one last time to be able to do

767
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:12.519
put the two of them together because I've always enjoyed

768
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.480
their friendship throughout the series and the stories that were told

769
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:17.960
from them. So even though this late in this in

770
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.119
the season, I think this is like the when it's

771
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:24.039
the third last episode. So yeah, it's it's a great

772
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:25.400
great to see that one last time.

773
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.159
And it is considered a bottle episode if you think

774
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.199
about it, Yeah it is. It's very cheaply made because

775
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:34.800
all of you there saving money for the final two episodes.

776
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.480
And they really needed that episode, that money for that

777
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:37.679
last episode.

778
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:39.519
Yes they did. But but the fact that that you know,

779
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:41.480
this is a bottle episode, but it's a damn good one.

780
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:45.079
It really is. All right, Well, let's move on to

781
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:51.400
our final pick. Scott. You have the pleasure, my friend, I.

782
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:55.639
Have the difficulty of trying to sell up a series. Okay,

783
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:59.880
What You Leave Behind? Written by David Weddell and Hans Biemler,

784
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:04.360
directed by Alan Croker. So obviously it's the final episode

785
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.079
of the series, and we hope it's the end of

786
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:09.119
the Dominion War. It's also a moment when Dakott is

787
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:12.719
closer than ever to realizing his vengeful vision for Beijor

788
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:17.079
and the entire quadrant. Kira, Garrick and other important characters

789
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.519
are leading resistance forces on Cardassia as Win and Dukat

790
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.159
head for the fire case on Beijor, where the paw

791
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.920
Rais wait to be released. We also see Cisco, Martok

792
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.159
and Ross leading the way for an assault on the

793
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:32.679
Dominion's vast fleet, while the leading Founder continues to struggle

794
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:35.760
with the virus that havoc on her species. Again, there

795
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.039
are way too many things to discuss without get job.

796
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:40.639
You did a fantastic job just.

797
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:44.159
Trying to dance around it. But Dave, what did you

798
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.800
think about the way this episode wraps up the series

799
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:47.480
in general?

800
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:49.960
So I think it did a fantastic job of wrapping

801
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.519
it up for one. But what I really like about

802
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.880
this it has and this isn't really a spoiler. I

803
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.320
don't think it has a fake ending. Just when you

804
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.199
think everything's wrapped up, you still get some additional thank

805
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:00.360
you know.

806
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.920
What we're talking about, right, Yeah, you know, just when.

807
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:04.280
You think it's over, you're like, oh, wait a minute,

808
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:04.599
no it's not.

809
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:07.639
I forgot about that one more story to go exactly,

810
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:08.639
So then you get.

811
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:12.119
That thrust upon you. So then you get that closure.

812
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.079
So you actually get too closures in this finale, and

813
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:16.840
I think it was really neat that they get it

814
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:19.760
that way, because actually, by the time you get done

815
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:21.719
with the first one, you really do kind of forget

816
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:23.920
about it. I mean at least I did. And then

817
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:25.559
when when when it goes, I said, oh wait a minute,

818
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:27.159
I do remember that was still going on a crap.

819
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:32.159
So as ending a series like these fas nine, because

820
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:34.920
that's what we've talked about. This is a really dark

821
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:38.480
star trek and it takes a lot of emotions to

822
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:42.199
get through it. It really does. It's draining at times,

823
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:46.159
but I think they close it out beautifully. Would I

824
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:49.599
like to see some of these characters again, Absolutely, I would.

825
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.119
I don't know why we haven't seen them, and it's

826
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.400
very confusing as why some of these characters we have

827
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:59.599
not seen again. But overall, Scott, yes, I loved it.

828
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:03.000
Hey, I want to add a little bit of personal trivia.

829
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:05.840
I have to state that I believe this is the

830
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.920
only episode of Deep Space nine that that you and

831
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:13.400
I David had we saw together. Yeah, because you were

832
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.480
living in Lafayette the time, and I had taped it

833
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:18.559
and I brought it over there and we watched it together.

834
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.480
The only episode of this series. I believe you watched

835
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.800
the nineteen seventy NI film Dracula afterwards. Too.

836
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:25.079
I have.

837
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.400
Well, I mean, there's there's a lot of a lot

838
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:34.400
of interesting things that happen in this one. I think

839
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.960
there's a very interesting needle drop the way You Look

840
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:45.199
Tonight sung by Vic Fontaine. Apparently behind the scenes had

841
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:49.000
a lot of people getting choked up and making it difficult,

842
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:50.960
difficult to kind of get through it, which just takes

843
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:55.039
you how much emotional investment the crew, the cast and

844
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:59.800
crew has on this series. I think, you know, Wayne,

845
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:03.480
you I talked about the documentary what you did Behind

846
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:09.519
and I think that's a great watch after this if

847
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:11.880
it would be kind of looking back at this, like

848
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.519
if you've already watched it, you're kind of recapping and

849
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:18.400
you're looking for a little bit more closure. That has

850
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.119
an interesting follow up to what could have been after

851
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.960
this if they had continued with it. So worth a

852
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:27.840
watch if you haven't seen the documentary already.

853
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.559
I find it very interesting too that they went to

854
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:32.920
make sure that they added some of the people behind

855
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:35.880
the scenes in the scene when they were Vic singing

856
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.159
that audience with some of the people that worked behind

857
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.159
the scenes, and I thought that was incredible that they

858
00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:41.480
did that.

859
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:44.719
It had to be a very emotional day, though very

860
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:46.039
emotional day for everybody.

861
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.039
I mean, working together for seven seven years. I mean,

862
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:50.599
you become a family. You hear that all the time

863
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.079
from other shows. I mean they become a real family

864
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:55.880
because you're together, probably more than your own family. To

865
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.599
be honest with you, yeah, yeah, and to have it

866
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:02.400
see come to an end like that, Yeah, I'm sure

867
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:04.079
that was devastating to him hear that.

868
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.440
No, No, And I want to I want to bring

869
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.719
up too with this finale because this isn't really a

870
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:12.599
spoiler because this doesn't happen in the episode. But if

871
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.599
you remember all the way back in Deep Space Nine's

872
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.360
pilot Emissary, you know, the whole point of Starfleet being

873
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.760
there was to bring Beijor back into the back, bring

874
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:28.079
Beijor into the Federation. It never happens during these seven years.

875
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.079
It almost did, but it almost did, but it didn't.

876
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.840
But I want the viewers, after you finished watching this

877
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:39.119
series to understand that it does eventually happen, that by

878
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:41.559
the time Star Trek Butcard takes place, Beijuorary is a

879
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:45.360
member of the Federation. They gained their membership status about

880
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.559
a year after the events of this episode. And if

881
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.079
you want to know what has happened, how did this

882
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.639
all happen? You need to read the Star Trek novel Unity,

883
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:55.639
which is written by S. D. Perry and was published

884
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:57.480
back in two thousand and three. It has a lot

885
00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.880
of the ideas that the writers of this series had

886
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.360
thought about continuing on. And also, you know, I hope

887
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.079
to be reviewing that. I want to tell you I'm

888
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:08.679
doing book reviews the best of the worst Star Trek novels,

889
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:10.840
and you can find them on our website. So there's

890
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:11.679
my shameless plug.

891
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.679
But no, that's a good call out Wayne on that,

892
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:18.320
because you know, that's that's a good companion piece for

893
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:20.400
this to fill a lot of those gaps and stuff in.

894
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:24.440
So absolutely good call. Well, guys, let's let's move on.

895
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:27.159
We've talked about our the ten episodes that we think

896
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:29.599
the listeners should watch for the final season of Deep

897
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.280
Space nine, So let's talk about some of our favorite

898
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:35.679
moments of a couple of the characters from this season.

899
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:38.480
Typically we only do one, but this time we were

900
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.280
obviously running out of time, so we had to cram

901
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:40.960
two of them.

902
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:43.079
Character halfway through.

903
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:47.719
Yeah, so I mean right, so we we basically are

904
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:52.079
going to be talking about Wharf and Chief O'Brien's favorite moments.

905
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.840
So let's go ahead. And start with both of yours. Wayne,

906
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:58.519
what's your favorite Wharf and what's your favorite O'Brien moment.

907
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:01.800
Well, for Wharf, I really wanted to choose a moment

908
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.599
in Tacking into the Wind, but that's a huge spoiler,

909
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.119
so I'm not going to choose that one. So I'm

910
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:11.159
gonna go with the episode Penumbra because it deals with

911
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.599
the probably the hardest thing that Worf has ever had

912
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:15.679
to do during the season, and that's to deal with

913
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.480
and that's the death of his wife and her replacement

914
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:23.119
with Ezra. You know, Worf's grief over jes Za is

915
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.360
it's really deeply felt, and he struggles to accept her

916
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:28.880
death while having to work alongside a woman that he

917
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:32.159
doesn't know but that's carrying the symbiont you know, practically

918
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:35.800
the essence of his dead wife. That that's hard, and

919
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.360
it shows a side of Warf that we rarely seen,

920
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.840
you know, the emotion, the heartbreak that it pushes past,

921
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.920
that that rough klingon exterior that he always likes to

922
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.199
put on. It just it's a great episode. We didn't

923
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.920
choose it, it would be my choice number eleven, but

924
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:55.079
it's a great moment for But as for a Brian,

925
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:59.519
I've split between two moments. Actually, I love the interaction

926
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.079
like a men with O'Brien and Julian in Extreme masures

927
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:04.360
you that one final quest for the two of them.

928
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:09.960
But I really love the scene in the finale watch

929
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:13.639
Leave Behind where it's just Miles and Cako and the children,

930
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.400
you know, one last look at this family, which has

931
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:19.119
always been a highlight of the series for me. It's

932
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:22.159
something that it sprung out of the next generation and

933
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.760
it was it flourished here on Deep Space nine. You know,

934
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.199
a married character with children. It's something that was a

935
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.760
first for Star Trek and if I may sow this,

936
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.119
it was the best of all the relationships. I'm so

937
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:35.800
glad that they were able to squeeze that in the

938
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.480
finale so we could see them one last time together.

939
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:40.440
Scott, what about you?

940
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:43.239
Yeah, I had those are great picks, and I had

941
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.400
similar picks and similar reservations about how to talk about

942
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:48.960
the one pick and attacking into the wind. Just do it.

943
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:50.800
Just don't talk about the spoiler.

944
00:48:53.119 --> 00:49:00.800
So there's an action scene with Wharf and the decision

945
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.719
that he has to make surrounding that and kind of

946
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.559
where he fits and who he wants to be moving

947
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.719
into the future. I think is a great view of

948
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:15.480
Wharf and his his aspirations, what he's always wanted to do,

949
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:18.079
or how he's always wanted to kind of fit into

950
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:22.679
Cleon culture. And I think there's some great moments there

951
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:26.320
between him and some of the other main characters, particularly

952
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:29.320
the Cleon characters he's been working with for a while,

953
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.079
as far as O'Brien. In the first couple of episodes,

954
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:39.519
there's the scene where he decides to go visit Wharf

955
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:42.519
and kind of checking on him with a drink and

956
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.599
try to kind of comfort him or help him work

957
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:48.800
through jed Za's death jed Zas death over a bottle

958
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:53.159
and knowing that he's, you know, having a drinking session

959
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:56.639
with a species that can physiologically drinking him under the

960
00:49:56.679 --> 00:50:02.480
table naturally. But the decisions that he makes there shows

961
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:06.360
his dedication as a friend and how much they continue

962
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.599
to meeting after Next Generation, and I just I love

963
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:12.000
the fact that they began that way. Dave, what about you?

964
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:15.960
So I'm going to dance around the attacking into the

965
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:20.320
wind scene. I'm not gonna say what happens in the

966
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:21.960
scenecause I don't want to root it for the listeners

967
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.480
because it's really really important to wharf into the story

968
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:27.480
and stuff like that. But I still have to call

969
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:29.800
out that scene because that is one of my favorite

970
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:34.360
wharf moments. You know, the line that he uses, the

971
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:39.199
situation that's going on, it just shows what a powerful

972
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.840
individual he is. You know, he could have taken what

973
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:46.880
he was given, but he doesn't, and he gives it

974
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:50.599
to someone who doesn't think they owe it earn it,

975
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.760
but they did. And you know there's a line that

976
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.239
he uses, and you know, if you put tune together listeners,

977
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.360
you'll know that I probably mentioned it in this episode,

978
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:02.199
but it really really well done and I had you know,

979
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.239
even though I can't really talk about it because it's

980
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:06.199
going to give away too much, I still think that

981
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:09.639
is one of the best worst moments between the Next

982
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:12.599
Generation and A Deep Space nine in my opinion. Yeah, yeah,

983
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.760
my O'Brien came down to actually two of them, but

984
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.639
the one I really want to go with is you know,

985
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:26.280
it shows how much he loves Bashir as a friend.

986
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:29.880
It shows how much he cares about him. Remember, he

987
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.360
kept he kept putting off telling Bashir that he was

988
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:38.360
going somewhere to teach, and you know the moment he

989
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:43.440
chose to tell Bashir what was going on. Think about

990
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:46.079
the situation that they were in. He wanted to make

991
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:48.280
sure that he told Bashir just in case they were

992
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:50.280
not going to get out of it. He did not

993
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:53.840
want to, you know, something happened to him and it

994
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:56.360
goes untold to his best friend, someone who cares about

995
00:51:56.360 --> 00:52:00.800
someone he loves. And I felt like that moment. Yes,

996
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:02.400
it was odd that he picked that moment, but he

997
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:06.639
understood the severity all of it, and he realized that,

998
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.079
you know, if he doesn't tell him now, he may

999
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:10.960
never get the chance. So he picked that moment to

1000
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:11.239
do it.

1001
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:12.239
And I thought that just.

1002
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:15.559
Showed you the strength of their friendship, and you showed

1003
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:18.119
you how much O'Brien really cared. And that's like my

1004
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:20.159
favorite moment with O'Brien. Good one.

1005
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:20.880
That's a good pick.

1006
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:24.599
All right, Well, let's go to our worst episode of

1007
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:27.599
the season, Scott, how about you? What's your pick?

1008
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:32.199
Emperor's New Cloak. I'll just admit I didn't even watch

1009
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:35.280
it because I was so sick the Mirror Universe and

1010
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.320
Willa Shawn does a great job of grand Nigasek, but

1011
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:41.639
I'm kind of sick of Grandgasek at that point, So

1012
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:44.960
I don't think it. I don't think it takes away

1013
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:48.360
from the season if you skip it. But that was

1014
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.639
the one that, yeah, hell boy, the Ways had for me, Wayne,

1015
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:51.119
what about you?

1016
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:54.599
Well, I forgot about that episode when I was typing

1017
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:56.639
this up. Otherwise I would probably be my choice. But

1018
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.519
other than that, I don't There wasn't really a episode

1019
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.760
that I absolutely hated it. Well, no, including that. Actually

1020
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:05.280
I didn't really hate the any of the episodes, but

1021
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.840
I chose take Me Out to the Hollow Suite. It's

1022
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:11.360
not a bad episode, but it's just it's just a

1023
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:14.559
little too lighthearted and comedic for me, right in the

1024
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:18.159
middle of some of all these really thick, dramatic war episodes.

1025
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:23.159
So Cisco he's obsessed with beating that Bulcan captain of baseball,

1026
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:26.880
and I know Cisco is a huge baseball fan. It

1027
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:29.559
just feels so out of character for him at this

1028
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:33.320
point in the story. If this episode had appeared in

1029
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:35.920
any other seasons, especially like season two, three or four,

1030
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:39.599
then it may have actually made our top ten. But

1031
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:43.000
it just it just slams the breaks on the war

1032
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:46.960
for me, and you know, just has lighten up. I

1033
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:48.960
don't like that just doesn't just doesn't feel.

1034
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.599
Right for me. You know, for the first time, we

1035
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:53.039
all three have a different episode.

1036
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:56.760
Oh that's a bad sign, it is.

1037
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:01.679
I went with Covenant where here is unexpectedly transported to

1038
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.679
imput nor where to kot is after here to get

1039
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:08.320
her to join a cult that worships Paul Race. I

1040
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.199
just it just didn't feel right to me. I didn't

1041
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:13.800
feel comfortable with the episode at all, and I just felt,

1042
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.079
do we need this? But I understand where it was

1043
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.159
going with the cop because you're building his character, you're

1044
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:24.159
building with where he's going in his strangeness, but just

1045
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:28.119
trying to get care to join that come on, Really,

1046
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:30.400
it just it just didn't feel right. It just fell

1047
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:30.880
out of place.

1048
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:33.760
So you summed it up, We've chose three episodes that

1049
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.400
basically say do we need this? And the answer for

1050
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:38.440
those three episodes is no.

1051
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:42.280
We don't. There we go see. But I think this

1052
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:44.039
is the first time, isn't it between the next things

1053
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:46.119
and that we all picked three different episodes.

1054
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:47.599
Yeah, usually we always chose the same.

1055
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:51.960
Yeah. Wow, that's crazy. All right, Well, good talk guys,

1056
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.360
is great. Joining talk about Deep Space nine It's kind

1057
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:56.880
of strange that it's ending already. I felt like we

1058
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.320
just started. Yes, Well, what do you think, listen, Steners,

1059
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:03.239
Did we get it correct? Did your episodes make the cut?

1060
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:05.760
If not, let us know and why we would love

1061
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:08.760
to hear your comments before we go though. I want

1062
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:11.920
to talk about I know today they made an announcement

1063
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:14.760
that Jonathan Fraakes and Brent Spiner have started their very

1064
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:19.079
own podcast. So I'm very anxious to hear that because,

1065
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:22.400
I mean, those two guys are like brothers. You know,

1066
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.960
they have a deep love for one another because working

1067
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.400
on the Next Generation and the movies and everything like that,

1068
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.360
they have a deep respect for one another. And I

1069
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.400
know they do a lot of stuff, you know, outside

1070
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:33.920
of the world of filming and stuff like that, so

1071
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:35.599
they really are family, you know, kind of like we

1072
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.159
talked about with the Deep Space nine people. So I'm

1073
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:41.000
very anxious to hear that podcast, to listen to those

1074
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:43.239
two guys talks. I think that's gonna be fun, guys,

1075
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:46.039
I really really do. I do. I cannot way too

1076
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:49.159
well listen to that. Yeah, I also want to talk

1077
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.000
a little about what's ahead of for us here at Phasers.

1078
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.159
We obviously are gonna be starting a new season very soon.

1079
00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:58.320
We kind of ran over a little bit with De

1080
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:00.639
Space nine, so we apologize with that. But the new

1081
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:02.440
season starts here in a few weeks, where we are

1082
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.000
going to go back to what we did with Strange

1083
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:09.400
New Worlds in Lower Decks with Star Trek Academy. It

1084
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:11.079
starts here in a few weeks, so we're going to

1085
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:12.840
do the same thing where we're going to talk about

1086
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.239
the episode. I believe we get the first two episodes.

1087
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:16.440
Yeah, that's correct.

1088
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:19.920
Yeah, so we'll be doing those two episodes together, and

1089
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.880
then after that we'll be, you know, every week until

1090
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:26.920
the series is done. We are going to be celebrating

1091
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:32.039
the sixtieth anniversary of the original Star Trek. I'm very

1092
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:35.800
excited to take deep dives into those episodes, guys with you.

1093
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:39.719
That's going to be fun because I know we've all

1094
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.840
kind of, you know, anticipated that one day we'll get

1095
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:45.559
to talk about those episodes. So that is coming and

1096
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:46.679
I'm looking forward to that. Guy.

1097
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:48.960
Yes, this is the first time that we've we've touched

1098
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.599
the original series other than the movies, so yep, I

1099
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:53.159
can't wait to talk about it. And there's some great

1100
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:54.800
episodes and some not so great ones.

1101
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:57.400
There is, but I mean, it's the sixtieth anniversion. We

1102
00:56:57.480 --> 00:56:58.519
have to do it right, guys.

1103
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:02.000
They're all class, that's the thing. They're all classic.

1104
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:04.480
They are they are. And then of course we have

1105
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:07.960
the fourth season of Strange New Worlds coming sometime this

1106
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:10.920
year most like probably the same time Season three came out,

1107
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:16.719
we're expecting, so we will dive into those episodes. Anything else, guys,

1108
00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:18.559
I might have missed that. We're gonna be. We will

1109
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:20.639
have some more Bottle episodes too. I know that we'll

1110
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:22.840
have a few of those. Wayne already mentioned, you know,

1111
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:25.280
he's doing some book reviews and stuff like that, so we've.

1112
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.599
Got quite a few of them. Been reading a lot. Yeah,

1113
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:32.320
I hope. Well, we'll probably do dive a little bit

1114
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:35.119
more into merchandise hopefully this season. Need to take some

1115
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:39.360
breaks and and then maybe uh but maybe maybe not

1116
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:41.960
this year, but next year we'll go into get into Voyager,

1117
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:45.119
you know, for all your Voyager fans. But we need

1118
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:48.400
a break from the twenty six episodes of season Yeah.

1119
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:50.280
Yeah, yeah, this is a break.

1120
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:54.239
And Voyagers not light either. I mean, no, no, there's

1121
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:55.719
a lot of Voyager. Even though it will be my

1122
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:56.599
first time.

1123
00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:59.800
Oh that's gonna be interesting. Yeah, that's gonna be interesting.

1124
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:02.559
I'm looking forward to that one then, because it's gonna

1125
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:06.280
be fun to what Scott thinks. But that one's going

1126
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:07.760
back more of the old style of Star Trek where

1127
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:10.280
you're on a ship. Yeah, right, so that's gonna be

1128
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:13.079
a little bit different. So but there's like later episodes

1129
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.960
in that season, that series is quite fun, kind of

1130
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:19.800
like we saw with Tribulation in Deep Space nine. There

1131
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:21.880
are some fun episodes that you're gonna get to witness

1132
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:24.039
and voice, right, and I can't wait to tackle those

1133
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.039
all right, So, listeners you want to check us out,

1134
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.199
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1135
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:33.920
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00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:39.840
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00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:42.079
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00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.159
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1140
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:48.320
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1141
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:52.039
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1142
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:56.320
greatly appreciate that. Guys. It's been a pleasure diving into

1143
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:58.280
deep Space now with you. Thank you very much for

1144
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:02.119
going out there onto the station and talking about this series. Yeah.

1145
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:04.480
Likewise, it's been a fun revisit.

1146
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.559
It sure has all right. To all you listening to

1147
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:09.440
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1148
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:12.480
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1149
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:14.960
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