80s Movies - Which Year Was the Best?

0:11 Hey everybody, Hello, and welcome to a podcast super show. We got five folks represented here between book author and podcasters and just a bunch of crazy movie people who love movies, love to talk about movies, and maybe a little little friendly debate on movies. Today we are here to discuss and debate which year from the eighties is the best for movies. I am going to be moderating this one. I am John Reid. I am the host of the thirty something Movie Podcast. We do movies that are hitting their thirtieth anniversary, so this year being twenty twenty three, we are in nineteen ninety three. We've been doing some fun stuff with Jurassic Park, Groundhog Day, Fugitive, one of my personal favorites, Demolition Man, tons of fun stuff. So we are over there at at the thirty something Movie Podcast. I am going to kick it first over to Dayton. Dayton, tell us a little bit about your podcast, and you are representing the year nineteen eighty one, So tell us about yourself and tell us what was fun about eighty one?

1:04 Yes, Hi, thank you, John. I am Daton Johnson. I am the host of the docu based seventies finn podcast What we do is we talk obviously movies, music, We cover some comic books, some books, and we recently did two episodes on Ready Player Won the movie and the book. I'm lucky. I'm blessed to have a lot of friends to like to nerd out about such things. And everybody on this current episode had either been on or will soon beyond John on the podcast, So thank you to everybody there. Eighty one is important because that was right when I started going to the movies alone without the parents or whatever, and I just have very fond memories of that. And also it was the year my wife was born, so that is another reason why it's my favorite year for movies. So there you go, and we've got Dave. He is representing nineteen eighty four.

1:48 Dave, you've got a couple of different projects that you have worked on and in the work, So why don't you tell us a little bit about you in nineteen eighty four. Okay, Well, I'm the only one here that doesn't actually have a podcast on his own, but I do have a YouTube chan where I talk about American soccer. I do short form content design for the new fan or the curious fan. If you're not anti soccer. You don't hate it, but you just don't have a way in I could I simplify that for everybody. So for a new and curious fans, short form content is on YouTube. It is called American Soccer Quick Kicks. I'm having a lot of fun with that and is gaining subtraction. I am also the author of the epic sword and sorcery fantasy series of novels called Galahads Doom.

2:29 Very excited about that because I actually the third volume of that just came out earlier this year, and I'm very pleased with how it turned out. So Galahads Doom dot com and check out my books excellent. Jeff, you got the fix for nineteen eighty six. Why don't you tell us a little bit about your podcast and what you love about nineteen eighty six? Thank you, John. I am Jeff Johnson, co host of a film by podcast. That's where we like to wax intellectual about our favorite directors, they're underrated hits and what we love most about them. In between that, we have founds the time to do a couple fun limited series, the first of which was one called nineteen eighty six, which was all about the celebrating the movies in ineteen eighty six to determine whether or not eighty six was in fact the best year for cinema in the eighties, and after several people had a strong opinion, we find ourselves here today. I didn't say the thing about nineteen eighty four. Let me say this, Yeah, I'm willing to entertain debate on if it was the best year for movies, although it's definitely a contender, And honestly, I think we have the four best years of the decade represented here. But when you take everything, all aspects of pop culture all together and consider what was the best pop culture year, so movies, music, TV shows, folks, comics, everything, I think nineteen eighty four is the clear runaway winner when you take it all into consideration, even though the McRib came out in eighty one. See like I said, I'm already detecting bias, but I'm gonna go And then Jason, Jason is bring us up here at the end of the decade. Nineteen eighty nine was definitely fine.

4:03 Jason, tell us a little bit about your podcast. And at nineteen eighty nine, So my name's Jason Colvin. My best buddy, mister James D. Graves and I do a podcast called Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast. We match up movies against each other or music against each other. So we have done Raiders of the Lost Ark. We actually matched that up with Back to the Future from eighty five. We've done The Terminator from eighty four. We matched it up with Alien. Just recently we did Cinderella's a Long Cold Winner. We're doing that against Van Halen's OU eight one two. So we take two different projects, we match them up, we compare them, and then we kind of decide a winner. So talking with you guys, my good friends, I started to make a case for nineteen eighty nine, and I heard objection your honor nineteen eighty four and eighty six and eighty one, and so we're here today to talk about those. I love nineteen eighty nine to me because it closes out the decade. To me, it's the most eighties of the eighties years, and so eighty nine is personal favorite years.

5:00 So I'll be interested to see where we go and what kind of fun we can have with this excellent well, so our first segment that we've got here, Jason, I think you've got some numbers for us. You're going to start off with a little a little math. It was my understanding there will be no math on this podcast. I love it. Box office. Yeah, that's right, just right out of the gate. We want to go ahead and get these box office numbers out there because facts are facts, right, So this is really not something we can argue. But let's just throw this out there and we can talk about what these numbers mean and the impact of these But here is a list of the top fifteen at the worldwide box office by movie. Okay, so number fifteen overall is Honey I Shrunk the Kids from nineteen eighty nine. Number fourteen overall is Lethal Weapon two from nineteen eighty nine. Number thirteen is Ghostbusters from nineteen eighty four. Number twelve is Beverly Hills Cop nineteen eighty four. Number eleven is Dead Poets Society eight from nineteen eighty nine. Ten overall is Crocodile Dundee two from nineteen eighty eight.

6:04 Number nine is Returning the Jedi from eighty three. Number eight is Coming to America at nineteen eighty eight. Number seven is Look Who's Talking from eighty nine. Number six is Roger Rabbit in nineteen eighty eight. Five overall is Back to the Future two from eighty nine, Rainman from eighty eight. Number three overall is Batman from eighty nine. Number two overall is Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade from nineteen eighty nine. And then number one, of course is Et from nineteen eighty two. So curious list right there. If it please the moderator, I suggest that this this last bit information would be stricken from the record. I kept hearing eighty nine way too often objective. Well, let's move on to our next part. Our next part, we're going to spend a little bit more time in here, and each person's going to get their opportunity to talk about kind of the pop culture impact, pop culture impact if you got dating, in terms of how this impacted the culture. I selected a few movies from my year to point out that without these, the other years miss out on some of their more iconic films. So first we're starting off with the film An American Werewolf from London. We're one of the first early horror films I truly enjoyed because it also had that nice tinge of comedy and it is definitely frightening, for sure, but it also made you laugh at the same time, so that's very cool. So I do have two major pop culture impacts with this one feature film. First, it was the film that inspired a very young Eggar Wright to become a filmmaker, giving us classics like Shaun of the Dead and Scott Polgrim Versus the World and Baby

7:36 Driver as well. So that's the first one that was a movie he saw. I said, you know what, this is cool. Movies can be two things, not just a horror film, but i'd also be a comedy at the same time. Without that, maybe we don't get the egg right that we have today. Second, without the success of this movie, we do not get the video from Michael Jackson's thriller, same director, same visual effects, so no American Werewolf from London. We did not get that music video or short film as it truly should be called. I'll jump in there too and say it has the greatest cut to credits of almost any movie I've ever seen. I absolutely love how it cuts to the credits at the end of that movie. My next film isn't exactly a great movie. In fact, it's kind of a throwaway, but it is something that I believe Jeff has talked about and its protect to the spawning, So Jason knows about this too, so I know later he kind of denied it. But James Cameron was hired and was working on this film and basically starving because he wasn't getting paid anything, and has a fever dream about a cyborg that is chasing him and he cannot kill it, he cannot get away from it, which of course inspired the screenplay for The Terminator. So without that fever dream that he has while making this terrible movie, we don't get The Terminator, which means we don't get his version of Aliens, which means we don't get T two or the Abyss and things like that. Like I said, it's kind of a throwaway movie, but it has a major impact on feature films that come afterwards, for sure. Another one from eighty one is both the directorial debut of Lawrence Kasden and also the feature film debut of Kathleen Turner, and that's Body Heat. Now, the movie is quite good. Kathleen Turner is just super sexy, like she was all through the eighties, and it pretty much

9:09 launched her career. And without the success of this movie. We don't get her in Romancing the Stone. Now, I did see the other people that were in mind for that, it's not the same without Kathleen Turner. So without Kathleen Turner being in a renting Stone, it's not successful. And then Zemeckis does not get to make back to the Future. And also he enjoyed working with her enough that he didn't cast her in a voice for of course, who frame Roger Rabbitt as Jessica Rabbit. Now with successive Body Heat we also solidify Kasden as a writer director, leading to later films like The Big Chill, Silverado, The Accidental Tourist, and Grand Canyon. And I don't know if you know Dayton, but adjusted for inflation, Body Heat had I want to say something like four tons of sweat in that movie. Yes that tracks I'm not good but very sweaty. Yes it is okay. This one's for Jeff. Escape from New York the first feature film collaboration between John Carpenter and Kurt Russell. The success of the movie, however, wasn't a huge box office success, but didn't have quite a cult following. It helped Russell get away from his Disney movie roots and led to of course many Carpenter Russell films like The Thing and of course Big Trouble in Little China from nineteen eighty six, So no Escape from New York. We probably don't get The Thing or The Big Trouble Little China, at least not at this points. And Russell, for his age, he's still having a very good career. He actually is a great Santa Claus. I will say that, yeah, yes, and then one war I'm gonna throw out here real quick, stripes.

10:41 Without the success of Stripes, we don't get Ghostbusters, sorry, Deef, Dave, if that doesn't happen. Without the success of that movie, it was they were pretty much trying to use the same cast again, same right or whatever, But no Stripes, no Ghostbusters. And I also do the rest of mine from my wild cards, So there you go. Probably no Groundhog Day either, right, Probably not right. I can just see the look in Dave's eyes because he's up next to talk about nineteen eighty four, and it's it's the kind of look that's like a Sam Jackson saying, oh, you were finished, We'll allow me to retort, So Dave, you're out, Okay, I'll take it. In nineteen eighty four, it was a massive year for pop cultured impact. So, first of all, at the top of my list I have this was the year that was the star making turn for Eddie Murphy. This shot Eddie Murphy into the stratusphere, made him a superstar, made him the highest paid actors in the decade, top box office draw. The Eddie Murphy the superstar that we know is the legacy of nineteen eighty four. You're welcome. The other thing is that there's something that happened with the movie industry in nineteen eighty four that changed the movie industry forever. It left a permanent change on how movies are rated. This was the year the invention of the PG thirteen rating. It was Gremlin's and Temple of Doom that both came out in eighty four, and before the year was over we had three EPG thirteen movies. The first one to come out was Read Dawn, followed by Dreamscape. I found out today thanks to the All Eighties Movie podcast on Twitter, that Flamingo Kid was actually the first PG thirteen movie made, but it wasn't released until after those of the two, So

12:13 PG thirteen comes from nineteen eighty four, and there's no denying that that was a permanent impact. That's still it's still with us today. Nineteen four also gave the world the phrase electric boogaloo. This is the perfect all purpose sequel subtitle. You can add it onto the thing and it works. Electric boogaloo. What would our lives be like without that magical phrase? And also nineteen eighty four gave the world Freddy Krueger, one of the biggest icons in cinema history. You're welcome. This was also the year. And you can say this about music too. There's a lot of career defining albums in nineteen eighty four, but this was a year of career defining movies for a lot of people, just right off the top, Like I said, first of all, Beverly Hills Cop a career defining movie for Eddie Murphy. Romancing the Stone was a career defining movie for Michael Douglas, Kathleen Turner, and Robert Zemeckis.

13:16 Bob Gail and Robert Zemeckis on Romancing the Stone. If that doesn't work, we don't get back to the future or back to the Future Part two from nineteen eighty nine, So this is also the career defining year for Prince with Purple Rain, and he had the triple crown with the album, the singles and the movie. This was a year the Prince owned, and of course the Terminator. Also we had Arnold Schwarzenegger with the career defining role in nineteen eighty four with The Terminator. So those are huge mass of permanent impacts that nobody can deny. Then we have also the thing I like about nineteen eighty four is the variety of fair like there was just a lot of variety what I look at. I haven't compared this to the top tens of the other years here represented, but I'll look at the top ten that I just listed real quick, top of the show from nineteen eighty four, and out of the ten, eight of them are not sequels. Like there's only two sequels in the top ten, and there are overall very few sequels comparably speaking for the year, there's a lot of original ideas being introduced, and to that end, we had a lot of franchises introduced a lot of what proved to be first movies in a series or some enduring franchises things that I would consider a little bit lesser, like Children of the Corn, Revenge of the Nerds. They all started in eighty four. Police Academy had a movie every year for about six or seven years. Ghostbusters has developed into this huge fandom, this huge fan culture surrounding it, and it's a franchise that continues today.

14:43 Karate Kid still going strong with Koba Kai and everything, and of course Nightmaron El Street. All of these things came out of the original ideas from nineteen eighty four. And speaking again to the variety of the fair, it was a big year for comedies when you consider that ghosts Busters set the box office record all time for a comedy and it was only broken by Beverly Hills Cop which also came out before nineteen eighty four was over, and it became the highest grossing comedy and it held that title for years. It was a huge year for horror, which I'm gonna touch on a little bit later in the show. It was also a massive year for sci fi and sci fi and fantasy. For genre geeks like me, you can't beat nineteen eighty four for this year quantity of sci fi, fantasy, and horror movies that came out, and I'll be talking about them later. So anyway, that's the pop culture impact of nineteen eighty four. Good luck everybody else. I do want to after you mention it, I do want to just hold up and give proof that I do own Breaking two, Electric Boogaloo, both of those breaking movies both released in nineteen eighty four. Excuse me, there were three break dance movies and I will be talking about that. Excuse me, your honor, Jeff, you've got eighty six. Tell us a little bit about the impact of eighty six. Well, def Dave, respectfully, I don't need luck when I've got talent. Let me tell you about nineteen eighty six.

16:10 And John, I know you're keeping score, so I'm not going to wow you with a bunch of cinema facts about this year. The impact on popular culture. I'm going to talk about that happened in nineteen eighty six, and I'm gonna do it one with just one movie. A lot of great films in eighty six. I'm just gonna use top gun to talk about how popular culture was impacted massively across the board in nineteen eighty six. Real easy, Everyone had a best friend, in eighty six and you regurgitated talk to me, goose, and you can beat my wing man any time. But let's talk about fashion for a second. RayBan aviators get at forty percent boost in sales because of Top Gun. Eighty six is considered the peak of leather jacket fashion, with an average of three out of every five people wearing them.

16:53 And I'm not talking just about the guys. I'm talking about the girls too, because Kelly McGillis has a very fashionable leather jacket throughout most of the film. The white T shirt is back in style, having not been cool since the days of Steve McQueen. And now let's talk about music, because thank you to the Top Gun soundtrack. It is on every single radio station with hits like danger Zone and Take My Breath Away, and they're still popular today. But let's talk about the renewed popularity for bands like The Righteous Brothers, Jerry Lee Lewis and Otis Redding becoming popular again amongst the young people of nineteen eighty six. Navy recruitment sees a five hundred percent boost in applicants. Go America. Top Gun another win there, and although pro beach Volleyball is organized in the nineteen seventies, it doesn't get officially recognized by the International Volleyball Federation until a very popular scene in Top Gun featuring sand volleyball. There you have it. Without Top Gun, nineteen eighty six does not get the cultural tsunami amongst fashion, music, our armed services, pro sports. It doesn't happen without Top Gun, and that is that's why eighty six was such a big impact here for pop culture and adjusted for inflation, that volleyball scene, I think three and a half tons of sweat, well, don't forget the baby oil that Scott lathered him up with. Yes, I know that my co host Pat who from our podcast that loves Top Gun is gonna kill me

18:26 if I don't just stop for a moment and say and motorcycle. Oh yeah, that's all Kawasaki was, adn't I didn't look into that because I thought, you know what, I don't want to be talking too long. But yeah, I did have a little bit bit that Kawasaki gets a a significant boost in sales as well. Jason, you've got nineteen eighty nine and finish out the decade for US, I got three points. I want to bring up number one. Nineteen eighty nine is the year of the bat bat Mania swept America like nothing else. And I know all four of you guys were swept up as well, right. That was the incredible thing that happened that summer. Yes, Superman nineteen seventy eight did it first, but Batman nineteen eighty nine did it bigger and better than ever. You had music, you had t shirts, you had toys. You still can buy the T shirt with a bat symbol on the front. That summer it was all about Batman and Joker. It was incredible. Prince had a number one album. Because of this, Tim Burton became a superstar director, and it set the pace for every single DC or Marvel movie that you see today. We can't get away from these comic book movies. And it's because of the success of Batman nineteen eighty nine. It is a pop culture nuclear bomb. Now then, also that summer, you had eighteen sequels. Okay, now, good, bad, ugly, it doesn't matter. This is when the movie studios said,

20:00 let's take what works, give the people what they want. The continuation of characters that we love. Still see it today. If they have success with a movie, you're gonna get a sequel. So let me just run through this list of eighteen sequels. Like I said, some are good, some are not good. But here you go, all eighteen of these released in nineteen eighty nine. You're ready for this, Here we go. I'm gonna start what I think is the worst and I'm gonna climb to the best here, okay. Toxic Avenger Part two, American Ninja Part three, Eddie and the Cruiser's Part two, Police Academy Part six, Friday the Thirteenth Part eight, Halloween Part five, Karate Kid Part three, Friday Night two, The Fly two Night Marenam Street five, Fletch Lives, Star Trek five, Ghostbusters two, License to Kill, Back to the Future Part two, Christmas Vacation, Indiana, Jones and the Last Crusade, and Leathal Weapon Part two.

20:55 It was the year of the sequel, and I loved it. Number three nineteen eighty nine gave us a movie that I'm gonna bet is not any of you guys top five for that year. However, it's pop culture impact is huge, and that is the release of the movie The Little Mermaid that re established Disney as a powerhouse entertainment company. And gave us like that second Golden Age of Disney animated movies. My daughter loves it. That movie came out thirty five years ago and still today people absolutely love it, and gave us Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin and the resurgence of Disney Like it or not. The Little Mermaid was another pop culture nuclear bomb for nineteen eighty nine.

21:40 I rest my case, I just was. I was ready to have you say electric boogaloo after every one of those Part two. All right, our next segment is the wild Card wild Card Dayton, What have you got for eighty one? Nine eighty one? You get not one, not two, but three Three quality sword and Sorcery movies are released that year, and actually mostly all pretty close together. You have Clashed the Titans, featuring the final work of stop motion artist Ray Harryhausen. Ex Caliber gave us the big screen debuts of Gabriel Burn and Syrian Hines, and the movie is just breaking cool. Dragon Slayer gave us the greatest cinematic Dragon of all time. Not only do I think so, but Guierra Modotarro thinks so, and George rr.

22:23 Martin thinks so. And also the filmmakers that did Rain of Fire thought so because they made their dragons off of that dragon as well. You guys might not be a fan, but I am. The thrash model band Slayer took their name from the movie Dragon Slayer. Initially they did call themselves Dragon Slayer. Once they're the music change, they dropped the dragon and just kept Slayer. Now, these movies kick off what became a pretty muture, a staple of the eighties, a sword and sorcery genre. We do get many more, but I don't think we actually get three quality ones in the same year, although def Dave might try to argue that point otherwise, But for me, those three are all solid sword and sorcery films, and we got a lot of really bad ones after the fact. Now another important big screen debut that impacts movies for years to come. October fifteenth, nineteen eighty one, at the Redford Theater in Detroit, The Evil Dead is screened for the first time. This is big because we get both Sam Raymie and Bruce Campbell on the screen for the first time. This leads to, of course, two sequels, Evil Did two and The Army of Darkness, my favorite of the trilogy. By the way without this movie, we probably don't get Dark Man, A Simple Plan for the Love of the Game, and any of the Spider Man movies starring Toby McGuire. A couple other notable big screen debuts that affect the eighties. Tom Cruise appears in Endless Love. He also appears and has a bigger part in Taps, where he shares screen time with Sean Penn, making his big screen debut. And let's not overlook Denzel Washington in a not so great movie but carbon Copy. He of course would appear in a soldial story in nineteen eighty four and his Oscar winning performance in Glory for

23:55 nineteen eighty nine. Those are my few wild cards. So there you go. Awesome, Dave, you got eighty four? What have you got? So? First of all, we started touching on this a little bit, but for nineteen eighty four wild card. And maybe this isn't a big deal to the rest of the people here on this show, but I know I have an audience out there. This was the Apex year for breakdancing movies. Okay, we had Breaking and then we had Beat Street, which was actually fantastic, and then before the year was over, Breaking two Electric Bugaloos so Breaking in its sequel. Both came out within the same year. But it's also not just for breakdance movies, but it's an apex year for movies regarding music in general. Okay, we had two of the biggest soundtrack driven monster hits of the eighties that maybe I should have put under pop culture impact with both Footloose and Purple Rain monster movies monster albums. In addition to that, the other music related movies that came out in this year foot Loose, Purple Rain, you had Body Rock, you had given my regards to Broadway.

24:56 You had Cotton Club, this is Lionel Tap and a little movie you may have heard of called Amadeus, which swept all the Oscars the next year. So is a fantastic year for movies about music. And I have something here that I think even Jason Colvin is going to have to concede to me, and that is nineteen eighty four is the year for the best sports movie of the decade, Robert Redford in The Natural. Don't even try to change your tune now, Jason. You know The Natural is the best sports movie of the decade. So I mentioned earlier, it's a big year for horror, big year for sci fi and fantasy. This is the main reason that clinches it for me in my mind. This is what closes the deal for nineteen eighty four. This is why I stand on this hill, and it's the sheer quantity of movies that come out in these genres. So you have the big hitters that we've already named, right The Terminator, Star Trek three, the Search for Spot Indiana, Jones in the Temple of Doom, the Very First Nightmare on Elms. Those are all huge. Then you also have movies like This Is Final Tap, The Last Starfighter, The Adventures of Buckaro Bonsaye, The Never Ending Story Starman Gray Stoked, The Legend of Tarzan, Runaway with Jeans Simmons and Tom Selling. We have Dream Escaped, we have Twenty Ten, we have Dune, we have Repoman V, The Final Battle Firestarter.

26:25 And I'm I got two guilty pleasures here. I think you'll forgive me Sheena and Conan the Destroyer. And when it comes to horror, I'm not a big horror guy, but I'm looking at this list and I'm thinking this is pretty strong. I don't know if there's a year in the eighties stronger in horror than this year when you consider that we have not only Friday the thirteenth, the final Chapter, we have the very first Children of the Corn, We have Chud, we have a Nightmare on Elm Street, and we have Silent Night, Deadly Night. I don't know. I don't know how you beat that either. So when as a long list, I had to get Mollie and I can't believe I haven't gotten any bonus points yet. But the sheer quantity of this, not even counting things like that I like like Ice Pirates and Brother from Another Planet. I mean, there's the list.

27:11 Go it's too long for nineteen eighty four. It just doesn't stop. You didn't even list the greatest Ski movie of all time, hot Dog, the movie tweet and her absolute tweetiness. It's a close second two of The Natural I am kidding. I'm giving that. I think they should both lose. For those comments about Jeff eighty six, Deeff Dave, I would ask you to take a look at the abundance of awesome horror films that came out in nineteen eighty six. We went at the sidebar on that. However, John my Wild card is short, sweet, and a little sinister. Because here's where I go with a little bit of a spear campaign against my fellow opponents.

27:56 Here, here's what it comes down to, talks and oscar walks. Let's talk box office and the best picture winners. We're all physical media guys, you know, we know the importance of owning a movie so you can watch it time and time again. Right, I think you're gonna see that some of the movies that I'm about to share with you not only are not on your shelves, they're probably not things that you want to see ever or ever again. Nineteen eighty one, Chariots of Fire Win's best picture does fifty nine million dollars at the box office. Yeah, a bit of a yawn there on that movie. Nineteen eighty four, As as Dave did mention earlier, Amadeus does rock the oscars does not rock the box office though, because he does a poultry fifty one million dollars. The man died poor and his box office was also poor. Now I'm gonna skip eighty six and jumped to eighty nine here for a second, because at one hundred and six million, we have made a significant jump people are going to the movies and seeing this one, But how many people want to see Driving Miss Day over and over again? And put your hand down dating I love that movie. There's always one. There's always one. Yeah, you know who else loves it?

29:08 Ma'm all because you can find the vhs in the cabinet, nath. I know it's not Cobra, but come on, now, you had your time, sir, You had your time, yes, and I and I was not and I talked about my year. I didn't trash other people's years. Why card Baby's card baby? Right? Last? Lastly, nineteen eighty six Best Picture winner Platoon does one hundred thirty eight million dollars, clear cut winner. I don't care if you love war movies, if you love Charlie Sheen movies, if you just love good movies, you love Platoon, and more than likely it's gonna be on your shelf a lot more often than Chariot's a Fire, Amadis or Driving Miss Daisy. That is my wild card that I'm playing, John, You probably won't want to hear which of those four movies is on my shelf. Amadeus is the only one that's on my shelf.

30:03 There's actually I'll be one of those that's not and that's Chariots of Fire. The other ones are all on my shelf there you go see. Yeah. And for the record, for the record, I'm adeis is a brilliant film. Absolutely love it and you can see it back there on my shelf right there as well. The best parts of Chariots of Fire is how how much of a high stakes movie it was, because they go and they compete and if they lose, then they got to go back to their high paying jobs. So that's what really did it for me with Chariots of Fire, I will say, And to be fair, I think the best the best moment of Chariots of Fire is the soundtrack that you hear in National Lampoon's Vacation, and that's the hill I'll die on. That was the I remember my mom the only time I ever my mom just being absolutely I rate when she had to wait on the phone for something. Was she was calling some kind of customer service line. And this was back in the eighties and Chariots of Fire was the hold music on the phone, and I just I remember the only comments she was I could just see her fuming while she's on the phone, and she just looks over at me as if I'm gonna know chariots a fire at that point in my life, and she goes, I hate chariot's fire.

31:07 Now, okay, Mom, I don't. I don't know what that is. But okay, Jason, you've got eighty nine. Okay for my wild card. I've got two things I want to play. I've got two jokers, if you will. First thing I'm gonna play is that the summer of nineteen eighty nine was the greatest summer for movies in the eighties. Davis crossing his arms already, Dave, I've already looked at nineteen eighty four August of eighty four. Week okay, so here you go. Think back to me like, I've seen three movies in the movie theater this year, this summer. Three Okay. Now, when we go back and we look at the list, let's just just in your head say, okay, that's a watchable movie. That's a watchable movie. Summer better than others. But starting May nineteenth of nineteen eighty nine, we go all the way to August twenty fifth before there is not a new movie that's watchable. Okay. So listen to this. May nineteenth, Roadhouse comes out. The next week Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade the next week, Dead Poet Society the next week Star Trek five, the next week Ghostbusters two, the next week Honey, I Shrunk, The Kids and Batman the next week Do the Right Thing, Karate Kid, Great Balls of Fire the next week Weekend at Bernie's and Lethal Weapon two. The next week, Licensed to Kill and When Harry Met Sally the next week UHF the next week Friday the Thirteenth, Part eight, and Turner and Hooch the next week, Parenthood the next week The Abyss and The Nightmare

32:42 in m Street Part five, the next week Uncle Buck. Finally, after Uncle Buck, we get August twenty five, where there's just crap, But that entire summer, week after week after week, you have watchable, enjoyable movies at the box office. I will concede that that is a murderers row of summer box office. I'm going to post to the jury that nineteen eighty nine is the sexiest movie year. Okay, now stay with me on this. Are you going to talk about driving this daisy? Here's my question to you, guys, can the judge of jacked. If you start with that, No, I'm not starting with that. Okay, good, good, This is this is what I'm saying here. Okay, stay with me.

33:28 We all enjoy when our lady whereas lingerie, when she dresses up nice, she looks pretty, she's got a sexy underwear on. It's all a part of the experience, and the anticipation, I would say, is at least as much fun as the actual experience. So think back to a time with me in early nineteen eighty nine. This is what we knew was going to happen that year. We knew we had eighteen sequels coming. We knew we had a Stephen King movie. We knew we had a Star Trek movie. We knew we had Indiana Jones coming back. We had Ghostbusters, we had Batman. We had the return of Marty McFly and Freddy Krueger and James Bond and Jason Vorhees. We knew we had a great Christmas movie coming with Clark and the Griswolds. We knew all these movies were coming. We had two of the greatest baseball movies coming at us, and just the anticipation of what was coming down the pipe that year in nineteen eighty nine was so much fun.

34:29 Back then, the anticipation of Batman, Indy and Bond all in the same summer just made it that much sweeter. And that's where I'm going to stop. So I do have to ask, was No Holds Barred the week she had a headache? You don't like No Holds Barred? No, I was going to mention that in a few minutes. So I had that one that was in my pocket. That was mine too. Who doesn't love seeing Hulk Hogan say, dookie, We're gonna get to our cinematic sins here in Justice, and we're all going to be on the table here. So that's the wild card. Now, as Jason said, we are going to get to the cinematic sins. Cinematic sins basically, what these are is these are the movies that are so bad that they are going to be weighing your year down. So each of the guys is going to present bad movies from the year and these are the ones that are basically this is the cement shoes that have been given to you to sink you to the bottom of the lake.

35:37 These are your cinematic sins. From each year, So nineteen eighty one, so it's easy to go straight to the list of Razzie winners, right, because, well, every year is gonna have a worst movie. But here's the thing about the Razzies of nineteen eighty nineteen one was the year that was so bad they had to invent the Razzies. Okay, this is where it starts. Okay, Mommy Dearest sweeps all the categories, takes home five Razzies, and at the end of the decade, when they're giving out decade full awards, like the worst movie of the entire decade, the raspberry goes to Mommy Dearest, So nineteen eighty one just owns that title. Yeah you know that quote? Why her hangers? And I just contend that the Razzies are stupid because there's a lot of years there're actually good movies on your list, So the Razzies are stupid. Those are people that have nothing better to do.

36:32 So I don't care rejects the Razzies. I reject the Razzies. I'm sorry, Jeff, what have you got for eighty one, one of the greatest heroes in American literature gets his chance to hit the big screen. In a way we are not ready for you have a beautiful woman playing the leading lady. So how do you explain Tarzan the Apeman to me? Because it is so bad. Edgar Rice Burrough was rolling in his grave when this one came out. Daton, you may hate the Razzies, but they sure loved this film because it got nominated for six of them and Bo Derek herself did take home the gold or the Golden Raspberry, whatever they call it. Just trying to sit through this movie it is. It's terrible film. Tarzan and the Eighth Man, Jason, I can see my remaining time to you, thank you. I have that one as well, that was on my list.

37:25 A nudity has not been that boring since Showgirls. So my cinematics sin for nineteen eighty one. I am going to go with Galaxy of Terror. We have. That's a Roger Corman movie. It's where James Cameron was actually discovered was given the Piranha Tuo job because he was able to get worms to wiggle by electrocuting them. But this movie stars Robert England of nightmari elm Street, and Aaron Moran who played Cupcake on Happy Days. But The worst sin in Alexey of Terror is you have a full on rape scene where a woman gets raped by a worm, a giant worm creature. It's unwatchable. I try to watch it one time just so I can see where James Cameron gott his beginning, because I'm a huge James Cameron fan. It was the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life. So Galaxy of Terror nineteen eighty one, nobody's ever seen that. I could tell. I've seen it, and it is everything that you just mentioned. Act I'm going off what the mentioned video podcast said about it, because yeah, everything they said.

38:35 I'm just like, I'm never watching this. I'm just never. So let's see. Now we got nineteen eighty four, So Dayton, why don't you give us the cinema sin from nineteen eighty four? All right, Well, I had quite a few, but I'm just gonna go with the one that's probably the most offensive of all the ones I chose. Blame it on Rio Michael Caine's having an affair with an underlage girl. I'm just saying that's it. That's inappropriate, disgusting, and it's wrong. It's not even funny. So blay Mon Rio is a terrible It has a meta score of twenty two. Okay, twenty two. There you go. That's mine. Can I can I add to that dating because that was my head. That was my surprise pick that I was ready to drop because the whole movie is sad because you have this Michael Caine who's middle age and he's having this affair with his best friend's daughter. The whole thing is inappropriate. Here's the thing. Michelle Johnson was seventeen years old when she filmed this movie. She had to get special permission from her parents and a judge to be in this movie. If she was twenty two, it would be creepy. She's seventeen. Yep, sorry, thank you for helping, Thank you, thank you. I have no defense. That's let's say. If you try to defend that, I'm just like, dude, you're done, Jeff, what have you got?

39:50 Less controversial, But let's talk about the superstar that Bill Murray was in nineteen eighty four. This is the guy. He's a ghost. Bluster stripes Caddyshack. Right along comes a movie in nineteen eighty four that is so terrible. It is such it is such a dumpster Fire that he questions whether or not he should even be acting after it, and doesn't act again until like nineteen eighty eight when he does Scrooged. I'm talking about a film called The Razor's Edge. Try to get through it, is what I would ask, didn't he write that He wrote part of it and it was like a passion project for him, and at Dan Ackroyd's suggestion, he held out of Ghostbusters.

40:35 He used the idea of getting razors Edge made as leverage, like, if you want me in Ghostbusters, you gotta let me do razors Edge first. Do you like that one? Dave? I like it because the scene that he's like eulogizing a friend of his in the movie who had died. Bill Murray wrote that scene and in his mind he was speaking to John Belushi. I think it's kind of neat. Also, it was a non comedic role, and we know Bill Murray proved eventually to be a fantastic dramatic actor, and this is kind of like the first step in that direction. So you think that's all I got. Okay, it's my turn, it's your turn. Okay, I'm backing up against the ropes. Here I come to pounce on Dave with Supergirl. Supergirl. Supergirl is the worst piece of crap DC movie. It's worse than Superman four Quest for Peace. It's not even a question. You have a witch. You have Clark Kent's cousin who can magically change her hair color. She just changes clothes through voodoo or something. There's terrible acting. It did so poorly it caused the Superman franchise to fall into the Cannon Group's hands. It's not even close. This movie is a giant wart on the nose of nineteen eighty four Supergirl. Dave is owning his defeat on that one. There's there's no defending this movie. I do know that

42:06 it's partly nineteen eighty one's fault because whoa once again, because I object because of Fay done Away. I know the raspberry for her. You know, it has helped her get the worst actress of the decade, I believe. So I think this movie is largely the legacy of nineteen eighty one. How's that objection deflecting? Right? Jeff and I both left Rystone off off the board too, So actually that was on my list too. I was I was kind of surprised Jeff Dingo with Ballero, since he was kind of kind of he might go like a do it bo Derek. You know, I just I don't understand why you guys can't get on board with the Omega hedron.

42:50 I mean, it's just one of the most amazing cases of movie prop history. And I'm so sad they never did make that sequel where she could change her hair color, and then the sequel she could change the color of the Great Wall of China just by looking at it. We are to eighty six, Dayton, what have you got for eighty six? I'm gonna stay on the offensive idea and I'm going with soul Man. Okay, see Thomas Holland blackface. That's all I need to say. Okay, thirty three meta score, racist as hell. There you go, soul Man. We had somebody come working on our air conditioning at our house and the guy came downstairs and he could see all my podcasting stuff I have down here. And he's the same guy that's been coming and working on our house for years, and this is the first time I was ever home when he was here working on stuff, and so he was asking me about the podcast everything else, and he's like, you know what, you know, what's one of the worst movies I've ever seen? Soul Man. Yeah, yeah, understood, now get mail. You know, not to defend that at all. But isn't this where c Thomas Howell met ray Dawn Champ It is? Yeah they got married, right, Yeah, yeah, they were married. I mean she didn't seem to have to the bike more problem so, but does not play well at all these days? For sure. This was I believe the apex of Ronald Reagan Junior's acting career. I remember that he was thank you, Dave. That helps, it helps, It probably helps Day's charge. I am not going to defend that film. It was probably not a good choice

44:25 for Tommy how back then. Obviously did not age well, and it's one that I know he and we all should just forget. So, Dave, what have you got? So? Look? Eighty six is packed with some really bad movies, so bad that the Razzie for Worst Picture of the Year had to be shared between two movies. And there's only two more chances to mention movies right now, between Jason and myself, So I feel like I should mention one of those incredibly light they could not decide which one was worse. They just gave the Razzie to both of them. But I am gonna go a different way because I discovered the existence of a movie preparing for this podcast, and I've never heard of before, and it sounds so awful that I have to mention it here. But it's the kind of awful that I think is probably going to interest all of you in trying to track it down and watch it. It's called No Retreat, No Surrender? Has anybody hurt?

45:19 I've seen it. I see this is a boot tell this is I haven't seen it, but it says that this guy he wants to like avenge the death of his father, so he learns Marcel arts karate kung fu from the ghost of Bruce Lee. The premise, who else do you want to learn FROMA? Oh, are you actually going to defend this? Jeff? How long? Janka Van dam is the bad? Yeah? Van Damn is a villain and that doesn't help it either, So don't even go there. So I'm gonna trust Jason to somehow mention the other two if he's going there, but I'm leaving it on a platter for him. What do you know he gets one. You have left me with a plethora of bad movies where I can only choose one. Here I'm looking at a list that includes Nomads, which Jeff and I have. Wait a minute, this is a cheap tactic. You're just talking out loud while I make decision. He objection, I will, I will only consider the last one. He says, Nomads.

46:29 We've Jeff and I have been on record talking about how horrible that movie is. True. We have also been on record talking about how bad Under the Cherry Moon starring Prince is. But I have to go with the star of star bad movies by a man that we all respect and adore, mister George Lucas. He came out with a movie so horrible I can barely form the words to say. The title of this movie, Howard the duck, pull that chain around your neck and try to swim jet. Well, my response to that cheap shot, answer that cheap shot statement, if you will, Well, here's a deal. There's no Mad's bad. Yeah, but without it, I quote Jason Colvin when I say without it, there is no predator, there is no die Hard. Think about that for a second, and while you're thinking about that think about this is under the cherry moon bad? Well, of course it is, but it's still about a global superstar prince. I mean, the guy could do no wrong even if he was doing it under a cherry moon. And as far as as far as Howard the Duck goes, it is it bad? Yeah, but it's it's so bad it's fun. And I think when you go to the store, you'll find a four K steel book on the shelves for Howard the Duck to celebrate its anniverse street. You won't find rhyan Stone, and you won't find

48:01 tars in here we go, but hey, you will find Howard the Duck. And you know what, I'm not ashamed to admit it's it's on the shelf back there. So do you have shang Hi surprise back there with your Howard Duck? How about troll that one? Okay? So not counting like the old Captain America cereals. Isn't it the first Marvel like feature film release? It is? It is, you know, thank you Deef Dave. It is a it is a Marvel superhero. It's a film about a Marvel superhero, so it's got that going for it. It's also the same movie that we saw a duck get aroused by Leah Thompson. I don't care who you are. I don't care who you are, what you are, Leah Thompson will arouse you. My friend. Among our podcast hosts, we did that one. It was one of our first years we were doing the podcast.

48:51 We did that one, and it's one of the only times one of the guys got up and actually walked out as we were recording. And I don't know if you if you guys have seen the old Three Stooges episode where they I think it hypnotized. I think it is. And anytime somebody says Niagara falls, they kind of turn murderous. Anytime I just say the phrase duck boobs to quote Forrest Scump. That's all we have to say about that eighty nine. Let's let's rip into eighty nine here, Dayton, you get it started. So this particular movie has no meta score on IMDb, but it's score from the People is a one point eight. I am referring to Going Overboard from Adam Sandler. You this thing is unwatchable. I'd rather have a case of diarrhea than sit through this movie. Again. It's terrible.

49:39 I have never seen that movie. Ye don't. Yeah, I will not defend. I would literally I'd rather shave my head. Didn't watch that movie again? Okay, just say it, Okay, Dave. Okay, I was going to say no holds barred, but they already got mentioned. I was gonna say going overboard Dayton took it. But I did find one incredibly horrible sounding movie that is probably in the realm of craptastic, and they are I'll probably all gonna want to find it and watch it. I've never seen it, but this sounds so terrible that I almost feel bad for completely burying Jason with this. Okay, So the name of this movie is over Sexed Rugsuckers from Mars. I saw that listed too. Okay. This is a sci fi movie where it talks about aliens return to Earth after having started the human race millennia ago, and the first human they see when they come back is this like really gross, dirty, homeless guy, and they conclude from that that all of humanity is very, very dirty, and they obviously come to the logical conclusion that the best thing they can do make this planet better is to cross breed humans with vacuum cleaners. You know what, I never realized that this movie is a prequel to Prometheus. Wow. And the way they start this cross breeding is this homeless guy accidentally drinks some alien p and

51:20 this causes him to fall in love with the first vacuum cleaner that he sees, and it creates this hybrid race of rugsuckers. It's over sex rug suckers from Mars from nineteen eighty nine. What is what? What? What is what? See my earlier See my earlier comment about people being coked out of their minds in the eighties. Alright, bring it, Jeff finishes off. Well, look, I am not gonna let you off the hug Jason with some obscure or a little known film like the last two. I'm gonna channel d Graves, your co host here. I'm going to offer up a movie that should have been a hit and was so bad. Was such a turd, it's a crime against film. Okay, So let's let's talk about a couple great things that you can throw into a movie. How about a hit song from Michael Damien rock On, we were all singing it. How about a beautiful girl like Meredith Salinger and at the height of their popularity, the Corey's Corey Hame Corey Feldman, their their movies were fun. When they got together, they had a great time. So I don't know what the hell happened when they did Dream a Little Dream. Wow, what a what a dumb movie. And again, this is one of those the tropes where it's the body swap, so a little freaky Friday action, and they can't even do that, right. This movie is terrible. It's it's a crime.

52:49 It should not be this bad. It's it's like ninety minutes of Corey Feldman in his most coked up Michael Jackson impersonator phase, and he just craps all over this movie the whole time doing it. It's awful. It's absolutely awful. This was when I started worrying about Corey Feldman. Like he had a good run in the eighties, Right, he was in the Burbs, Right, he was like he was in the Burbs night and then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, and he never really stopped this phase. I'm starting right here. Oh yeah, it's a bad movie. So from the lowest of the load, now we're gonna go to the highest of the high. This is this is one of your last chances to make the case for your year. This is the pinnacle. This is the top five movies.

53:36 Top five movies nineteen eighty one. Okay, so I couldn't figure out how to break this down, so I just went ahead and looked at June into July, and you had the Great Muppet Caper, Dragon Slayer, For Your Eyes Only, Raiders are Lost Dark, and Stripes all came out within a basically a few weeks of each other. And to me, and I saw all of those in the theater, except for Stripes, of course, because I was too young. As I note, I've seen Raiders Lost Dark twenty times in the theater twenty times because it's that freaking good. And if it wasn't for that, you wouldn't get one in eighty four, and you wouldn't get a sequel in eighty nine. So anyway, those and some people consider the Great Webcapor to be the best of them movies. It's definitely a favorite of mine. Dragon Slayer is probably my favorite sword and sorcery film of all time, and For Your Eyes Only is my favorite Bond movie. These are These are all favorites, and four of the five I saw in the theater of that summer. So that's why I chose those five. Top five movies. Nineteen eighty four, Dave nineteen eighty four, Okay, honorable mentions, Red Dawn and this his final tap. I've never quit watching Red Dawn.

54:50 Awesome movie. Number five, Ghostbusters, number four, The Terminator number three, Indiana Jones in the Temple of Doom. Two. Thing I like about that real quick. I love that the best majority of it is in real time and we see it tie into the same cinematic universe as Gunga Din So I think that's pretty cool. Number two. This is a movie I hadn't seen it over thirty years. I just saw it a couple of years ago. It brought back all the memory, all of the distalgia I had forgotten just how great this movie is. It goes almost to the top of my list. The Karate Kid. I absolutely love this movie. It's amazing, but at the number one spot considering who I was at thirteen years old in nineteen eighty four and how it just had me hook line is seeker on the edge of my seat. I was along for the ride. I have to put a number one star Trek three, the Search for Spock. Wow.

55:40 Really I love Star Trek three. I like it more than four, that's for sure. Really. No Beverly Hills Cop, Nope, they haven't made my top five. Okay, top five movies. Nineteen eighty six is the court. I have prepared a written statement I'd like to read, and if you happen to notice twenty film titles from nineteen six in this statement, I assure you it is merely coincidental. Oh yeah right. I'll begin, Honorable John Reid, to quote Lieutenant Pete Mitchell call signed Maverick. I can see it's dangerous for you. After all, you've been given a fine mess during this one crazy summer to listen to our testimony and choose the best year for movies in the eighties. But John, you're the elite, the best of the best. You, sir, are a top gun. Therefore, when you examine the years eighty one, eighty four and eighty nine, the only question is, if I may quote Ellen J. Ripley, You're going out there to destroy them, right, not to study, not to bring back, but to wipe them out. John. These ruthless people I'm debating against can troll you day and night for nine and a half weeks. But it doesn't take a witch board to point to yes when I ask if nineteen eighty six is the best year forgive my gung ho attitude about this topic, but these other guys should be running scared through the labyrinth of average films their

57:14 collective years offer, because eighty six is in fact the most rad and only someone with a short circuit would think otherwise. It's true my cinematic sins can cause heartburn, but I don't believe I'm out of bounds when I say it takes true wisdom to appreciate that even bad movies become cult classics over time. It would be something wild if you chose one of the years suggested by the other three amigos. Ultimately, as the Highlander himself, Connor McCloud of the Clan McCloud, not Clan of the Cave Bear tells us, there can be only one, John. I know you'll make the right choice. I believe that you will stand by me my top five, our top gun Aliens Platoon Ferris Bueler's day off, and stand by me. Thank you. That was excellent. I'm giving it top shelf sir. Oh, my gosh, I just I just appreciate the fact that most of the movies you mentioned are not very good, so that helped a lot. Thank you, Thank hey.

58:22 As Dalton says in eighty nine Roadhouse Opinions, very guys, don't don't. I don't want you guys to argue with each other. I want you guys to be nice until it's time to not be nice. Top five movies nineteen eighty nine. My top five, I wouldn't say are the best five movies, but these are the movies that best represent the excellence of nineteen eighty nine. Am I splitting hairs? Maybe? But here's my list. I'm going to start with the greatest romantic comedy of the eighties at number five. I'm giving you When Harry Met Sally. Number four. I'm going with the greatest Christmas movie of the nineteen eighties with National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. Number three, I'm giving you one of the great sequels of the eighties. We get Part two, actually an improvement in my opinion, from Part one. We get Riggs and Myrta lead the weapon to the summer of nineteen eighty nine, that's my number three. Number two overall, I give you Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. I am not a person who says it's better than Raiders of the Lost Dark. I think that is the best movie of the nineteen eighties, but I know opinions, Verry, and I know people hold this movie in very high regard, maybe the best of the three Indiana Jones movies.

59:46 And then finally, I give you the one movie the stamp of nineteen eighty nine, Batman. We still quote Jack Nicholson's Joker. You guys probably have shirts with the bat signal on the in front of it. You've probably had toys. We had the soundtrack. It owned the summer of nineteen eighty nine, So I'm stamping this whole thing off with Batman. I had to collect our cards from the movie. I had the entire SETAs I have the soundtrack Sitting Climbing. So those are the top five movies from each of our years before I make a decision, And good lord, you guys have made it really really difficult to make a decision. Here we are going to do in this next piece, very very quickly. I want each of you to vote for if your year didn't exist, and you had to vote for one of the other years. Who gets your votes? So basically, in your mind, which of these years comes number two? So I was trying to figure out how many movies I own for each of the other years, and it's it's really close, So that that didn't really help my thought process, you know what I think? In general, I'm thinking I'm gonna go with eighty nine because he's right, it's when Harry met Sale is probably the greatest romantic comedy of the eighties. I saw it in the theater, loved it from the first time, and yeah, and I agree, the Cup of Two is better than the original, and yeah, I'm a big fan of Indiana Jones and Last Crusade is fantastic. So I think any nine wins out just a little bit. David, what do you got? This was tough because it came down to a couple of different years. Eighty nine, of course,

1:01:20 being the most recent year from the eighties. It's easy for me to remember that one. It was also the summer that I graduated high school in June of eighty nine, right there with Batman, Star Trek five, Indiana Jones all coming out that month. I remember that summer very very well. I was out of school, I was hanging with friends on top of the world. I can't believe Jason never even mentioned UHF in this entire episode. There's a big sentimental gravity pool to nineteen eighty nine for all of those reasons. But there's another year that had what I considered not only to be the best movie of the decade, it's my best movie of all time. And I don't say that lightly because it's always neconnect with nineteen thirty eight Adventures of Robin Hood, which is also just right there. It's Raiders of the Lost Arc. And on the strength of that movie, and on the strength of the rest of June of eighty one, and on the strength of ex caliber John Boorman, my favorite fantasy film, my favorite King Arthur adaptation, I have to go with nineteen eighty one, and that is in spite of the fact and in Superman two he rips off like the cellophane layer of his essymbol and throws it across the Forge of the Solitude to ensnare the bad guys.

1:02:30 I'm going with eighty one. Jeff, Well, for me, it was always about two years, specifically and in my heart of hearts, I had to, I had to think about it, and I came down to the year that almost was our limited mini series, and that's nineteen eighty four for all the reasons I started my lifelong crush for Phoebe Kates when I saw Gremlins. It is absolutely got, in my opinion, the greatest war movie ever made, Red Dawn. And you know, what can you say, you know, if you're looking for a hero the karate Kid, we're talking about the amazing redemption story of a young John Lawrence who has everything set up for a senior year. This punk LaRusso comes to town and just causes chaos, causes havoc and even in the end, just like in Rocky, he maybe he loses his title, he doesn't win, but he lets he lets the audience know that's he's gonna be okay. You know. He hands the trophy over to the cheater and says, you're so. You know, eighty four had it had its heroes, it had its it had its adorable girls that you could you could crush on, and it had its awesome war movies.

1:03:36 You know, So for me, it's it's nineteen eighty four. Jason, who does number two work for? Okay, this is really interesting. Okay, So Dayton, you chose eighty nine, Dave you chose eighty one, Jeff you chose eighty four. I'm going with eighty six, Okay, And so here's the deal. So June of nineteen eighty one, I feel like is the best month for movies, and the entire eighties just absolute killer after absolute killer and formidable movies. To me, nineteen eighty four, I would say there's more like sevens and eights throughout the entire movie. But when I looked at my personal top five movies from nineteen eighty six and the impact that they had on me as a person, so aliens the James Cameron movie and created a lifelong James Cameron van in me t ten out of ten. Top Gun made me want to be a fighter pilot with every other red blooded American boy in the entire country. Ten out of ten. Ferris Bueller's Day Off is one of the funniest movies in the nineteen I absolutely love it. Quoted all the time. Stand by Me a Stephen King movie with dramatic impact like that, and then kind of off the beaten path. But what I think is the greatest horror movie of the entire decade. And you have The Fly, the David Cronenberg movie, The Fly, where Jeff Globlum slowly becomes this horrific monster. I mean, I saw that in the theater, scared the crap out of me, grossed me out, but broke my heart to so go in nineteen eighty six, I can't argue with that. Top five.

1:05:04 Well, it looks like it's time to close now, so thank you all for coming to this episode. And I just I want to state for the record that I hate every single one of you or for all choosing a different year, because I'm like, well, if three of them fall back on the one that I think I'm leaning towards, well then that's fine. But yeah, leaving me out to dry here. So I guess it's it's my turn now to kind of make a decision based on the evidence that you all have presented. Final judgment, I'm gonna go through each of the years just really really quickly. Eighty one. All the stuff that you guys have said, Raiders is an amazing movie. I tie so many of these things to experience as I had watching some of these movies with my dad. Raiders.

1:05:49 I remember watching that with my dad, and then I remember taking my son to go see it when they brought it back out in the theaters just down the street, actually from the hospice that my dad passed away. In the movie theater was showing it one more time, and there was even a guy that came with replicas from the movie, and we stayed there. My son is the most I think he'd ever talked to another human being. He was asking questions about the props and everything else. It was just it was awesome. Stupid fun movies like cannon Ball Run American, Werewolf in London one of my favorite movies, and Clash of the Titans was one of my favorite movies as a kid. I had all the toys, even stupid little TV movies like This House Possessed was one that I somehow watched over and over again as a kid, one that we did on our show, and I was blown away above this. I absolutely loved it, and the premise seems so simple.

1:06:33 I didn't think I would love it. Was my Dinner with Andre. I absolutely loved that movie when we watched that, and I think the rest of my co hosts on our show. It just they were amazed too. They're like, two guys having dinner, how good is it's going to be? And we watched it and we're like, this was actually an awesome movie. I actually loved this movie. So eighty one is just it's got so much stuff to love from eighty one eighty four twenty ten. I remember watching that as a kid, and it was one of the first movies where I remember the moment that you started to see spoiler alert, the monoliths. You start to see some of those monoliths show up in like the Great Spot of Jupiter, and I remember getting just goosebumps as a kid. I'm like, I loved astronomy at the time, and this movie was messing with my astronomy and it was just it was bone chilling. So I remember that, and I mean, this is all the stuff that my uncle used to take me to when I was inappropriately too young to go to see some of these movies, you know, when I saw a Nightmare on Elm Street and Terminator, The Ghostbusters, Gremlin's Sixteen Candles, Never Ending Story, Muppets Take Manhattan, Spinal tap Amadeus. I've already said Amadeus is one of my favorites too.

1:07:34 My dad when he did have his stroke, you couldn't tell when he was joking. He couldn't show emotion on his face anymore after he had had a stroke. And at one point they were wheeling him down through the hallway in the wheelchair and he starts turning to the other people that are sitting off to the side working puzzles and doing other things, and he just goes mediocrates, mediocrits everywhere. I am your patron saint, and I got okay, So you have not lost your sense of humor. Eighty six, Little Shop of Horrors, Three Amigos, Hoosiers, Crocodile, Dundee, The Fly Transformers, the movie maybe one of the first times I cried in a movie as a kid. Stand by Me Aliens, Labyrinth. I can't even tell you, between my siblings and myself, the number of times we quote Labyrinth on a daily basis. Big Trouble in Little China. I'm so shocked nobody wanted to go the creep factor and choose Poltergeist too, and tell us about how God is in his Holy Temple, Highlander, American Tale, Platoon and then eighty nine, I mean Christmas Vacation. A lot of the movies in here are just the ones that are on regular rotation. Just Back to the Future two was probably one of the first movies I took my son to go see in the theater. Little Mermaid, Parenthood, when Harry met Sally Honey, I shrunk the Kids was always a big one. Dead Poet Society was the movie that probably most inspired me to become a teacher. Last Crusade, Roadhouse the Burbs, my son playing baseball. I mean, there's not a game, or at least in my own head. If I don't say it out loud, at some point, I'm gonna say the phrase jazzed a bid outside And

1:09:05 then I don't think anybody mentioned for eighty nine Bill and Ted's excellent Adventure. Well, I've taken all of your information and I've heard all of your arguments over the course of this episode, and I am going to say that I'm not going to cop out, but I am going to say, God, all these years are just amazing. There's a reason why these are the four that we ended up having for this episode, because you really honestly can't go wrong. I'm gonna have to go with. And I think some of the pop culture argument for this year, and I think just I think it's one of the things that the person who had this year, it was one of your reasons for why this year was so pivotal, And I think that's going to be the same that I'm going to have to go with in my decision.

1:09:48 And it's probably the year where I own most of the movies that are on this list. It's the year that probably inspired most of my love of movies, my love of literature, the types of genres I enjoy, all that other stuff. I am going to have to go with the one that started a whole bunch of these franchises. I'm gonna have to go with nineteen eighty four. I gotta go with eighty four. Like I said before, that was one of the reasons we started our show was we were sitting around arguing this point and we said, God, that's just look at everything that got started that year. Yes, I love and I'm a person that loves sequels too, even bad sequels. I love having the sequels. I love having all that all that fan service of bringing back those sequels and just getting more of what I enjoy, but eighty four just and that get kicked off so many things that became so huge. I love all of you, I love all the years. I think I gotta go with eighty four. It's totally reasonable, makes perfect sense. I kind of thought you'd say that there be none Live with Dave now. And thankfully this is not just my decision, because the listeners are going to weigh on this too. So so we've heard all the evidence. I've said what I think it is. I've I've said nineteen eighty four. But we want the listeners to weigh on in this as well. Jason, how do you want how do you want listeners to let you know what their phote is. We're gonna put it out on Facebook, We're gonna put it out on Twitter. We'll share it for everybody to weigh in on what they think is the best year of the nineteen eighties, and if you say nineteen eighty seven, year out John, thank you very

1:11:25 much for moderating, guys, thank you so much for being here. I had a great time and that was a great discussion. Enjoyed it fantastic, Thank you very much. Absolutely absolutely love these of these big multi show collaborations we do sometimes and looking forward to the next one already this was this was a blast. Thanks so much,