April 6, 2026

Rob Cohen - The Fast and Furious

Rob Cohen - The Fast and Furious
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Think about this for a second.

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We have discussed three Keanu Reeves movies so far. I mean,

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you've you you you joined the show and the what

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the fall of last season?

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I think?

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So yeah, yeah we have season six there?

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Yeah, count Okay, so we what have we done?

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We we did the replacements with Gift, We've done the

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gift with Counter Reeves, We've done uh Constantine.

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Yes.

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I just feel like, if I'm going to talk about

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a Count of Reeves movie, it's got to be you got.

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To be the one, rightan Love? Yeah, Well what if

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what if we talked about.

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A Count of Reeves movie that didn't really have Counter

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of Reeves in it, even though it's a Counteres movie?

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Can we can we get away with.

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That wing show classify that?

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Yeah? All right, Well I'll tell you what we're gonna

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do it.

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Let's go for a ride with a film by Rob Cohen,

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his two thousand and one high octane action film The

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Fast and Furious.

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Hello, everybody, I'm Jeff.

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Johnson and I'm Gary Gibson, and this is.

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A film by podcast Garrett. We are back. You're back.

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I've been here. You've been busy, man, You've been busy

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over on YouTube.

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Oh yeah, yeah, I've been working a lot of previously

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on of course a film by series, so you know,

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getting to cover some exciting television shows that have been

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coming out in tenfold recently, and we've got more coming

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out this week. I know we're starting on The Boys

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here in just a couple of days. That's always exciting.

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You uh, if you want to listen to it or

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Daredevil Daredevil Born again again.

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that's gonna be kind of cool.

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I'm hoping, I mean, they might say, hey, I want

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not good you know, we're not going to but hey,

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yeah that's what they want, that's what they get.

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I'm hoping that they pick one that we're going to

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be at, though, because that would be kind of cool,

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you know. All right, let's talk about The Fast and Furious.

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I kind of I know as being I know, I

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probably came off a little snarky. We're talking about count.

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Of reas movies. Let's let's just call it what it is.

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Uh, The Fast and Furious has a lot of point

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break in it.

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Yes it does.

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And I want to get I want to have that

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conversation here in a minute, you know, I want to

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kick it down the road for now. But let's talk

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about Rob Cohen Garrett. Three things you may not know

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about this guy. He is He's known as one of

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the nineteen seventies baby moguls.

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Are you are you familiar with this term?

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Have you have you heard about the You've not heard

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about the baby Moguls?

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I have not know, sir.

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I hadn't heard that, so I got a little I

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got a little psa here for you. The quote unquote

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baby Moguls were a group of young influential Hollywood executives, producers,

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and agents in the nineteen seventies. They were famously profiled

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in New West magazine in nineteen seventy eight. These individuals

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are in their late twenties early thirties. They rapidly rose

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to power, bringing a new, informal and audacious energy to

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studio leadership and film. Yes, it goes on here to

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say that they represented a departure from the old Hollywood system.

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Guys like Jack Warner and Richards Annak.

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Yeah, they were known for their.

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Rapid and cocky rise to power, and they also uh

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it was they had a reputation for working very long hours,

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having intense dedication, and developing a supportive network amongst themselves.

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They also they also.

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Championed young filmmakers and took chances on him guys like

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Steven Spielberg and Robertson mechis nice, kind of cool. Yeah,

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Rob Cohen one of the because you know the guy

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think about this is the guy who he did the Fast.

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And the Furious, he triple X.

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He I mean, he's he does like a lot of

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big budget action stuff, right, yeah, yeah, and the name

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like Rob Cohen. I just thought, this guy's like he's

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thirty five. You know, he he grew up in like

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the extreme era, the Night Late teen Night. He was

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you know, Baja Tacos and Mountain Dew and you know, snowboarding.

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He's not that, he's like he's like in his seventies.

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I mean he's still he's still a cool cat. But yeah,

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so before he earned a reputation for directing high adrenaline blockbusters.

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Rob directed three episodes of Miami.

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Vice, which is pretty awesome.

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It's awesome because one of those one of those three

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includes what I happen to believe is the all.

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Time best episode of Miami Vice.

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Okay, I'm talking about I'm talking about Sirius Season one,

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episode twenty one I was released. I want to say

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May third, nineteen eighty five, Evan, remember Crockett's old buddy

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bind the Mac ten the Uzi Mac tens DDE.

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I don't know, it's been so long since I've seen

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Miami Vice.

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I got the whole season. I got the whole series

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on blue raye. You need to come over. We'll just

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binge watch it.

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Yeah, it's yeah, that that was. It's I don't know

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what would be the better episode than that. I think

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it's the all time best episode. Yeah, and I'm you

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know what I'm doing for a rewatch. I need to

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start back at you know, I need to go back

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to nineteen eight four and just season one, just get

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get after it.

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But uh, yeah he directed that. When I read that,

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I was like, this is so great.

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Yeah, it's on tub by the way, Like, you don't

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have to buy the blue ray see really, Amazon has.

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A kick ass price for the blue ray set.

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It's like five seasons of My Advice and I think

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it was like under forty bucks when I bought it.

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Oh shit, it's also on tub so check it out

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My advice.

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But this is turning into Miami Vice episode. Welirred to

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covered Miami Advice earlier this year. Well, another thing. He

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usually makes cameos in his movies. I love when directors

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do this.

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Yeah, he has been in most of his movies. Here

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he is, He's got a cameo. The first illegal street

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race we see at the began the movie.

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Yeah, the pizza guy.

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Goddamn street racers, you know, uh, one of one of

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one of Vin's cruse.

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Play, it's closed, go the other way. Pizza boy. Yeah

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that's Rob Cohen. He's a he's a pizza.

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Ok Yeah, quote from Rob Man A minute man, A

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few words. There wasn't a lot of quotes out there

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about from Rob Cohen, but uh, this one. No, two

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directors will make the same film the same way.

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No.

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I don't know if that's cryptic or common sense.

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I mean one would say common sense, but you know,

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maybe a little cryptic as well.

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To elaborate on his behalf.

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It's just because of I mean, if you give Martin

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Scorsese a film the exact same script that you give

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Antoine Fuqua, I mean you're going to get something completely

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different between the two of them. Those movies would probably

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be excellent.

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But yeah, okay, let me ask your opinion. Let me

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I need the Garrett Gibson take here. Yeah, in an

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alternate reality the movie babe, remember that one with James

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Cromwell The Pig, Yeah, Babe, directed by Steven Spielberg or

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directed by John Carpenter, which is the better movie?

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I think Steven Spielberg's going to be better, But I'm

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going to like the John Carpenter one more.

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I'm with you. I'm absolutely with you. Man. All right,

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five words synopsis. Listen.

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Obviously the entire planet has watched one or more or

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all of.

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The Fast and Furious movies.

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Yes, Garrett, if I asked you to describe what is

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the Fast and Furious in five exactly five words, what

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do you got for me?

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Cop becomes underground.

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I'm getting I'm guessing that. I'm like, you give me

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that hint. I'm like, yep, I got I got you.

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I'll figure it out. I'm a little more on the

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news and let's hear it. Point break with street racing.

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Okay, I'm not gonna leave it alone. And like I said,

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I'm getting to it. I'm building I'm building up. I'm

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building up to something. But uh, this is Paul Walker's

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second movie with Rob Cohen.

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He does he does The Skulls a couple of years before.

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Seen that one yet kind of cool.

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I know that's one of those like it made like

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they had like two or three sequels, like direct the video.

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Yeah that are they're probably on TV right now or

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Pluto TV.

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But not great. But the Skulls was. It's kind of cool.

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Paul Walker.

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Jonathan Uh, Jonathan Jackson, Joshua Joshua Jackson.

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Joshua Yeah, yeah, yep.

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Uh okay, So they had a they had a good

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they had a good uh situation, Paul Walker and Rob Cohen.

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He recognizes the potential Paul Walker and he says, hey,

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you know, what's your dream project?

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Kid?

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Like?

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What can I do for you? You know we're gonna

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make any movie.

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Paul Walker tells him, like, if there was any if

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there was ever a way to do a mashup of

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Days of Thunder and Donnie Brasco, that's the movie I

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want to be here, Okay, not not not a bad

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mash up as mashups go. Meanwhile, it's January two thousand

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and Uh. There's this exec who sends Rob Cohen an

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article from Vibe magazine called the titled racer X all

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about this illegal street racing, right Queen Queen's New York.

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Hey, Queen's New York is, So do you think.

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Of Queens New York as the illegal street street racing circuit?

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Not a chance in hell, isn't that?

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I Mean that's a spider Man Aunt May lives there.

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Like how's yeah?

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But also like if you've ever been to Queens or

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anywhere in upstate New York and like literally traffic is atrocious.

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I mean it's it's it's terrible. You're not going anywhere

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anywhere anytime fast. So I don't know, I kind of

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find that hard to believe. I do see that more

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of like an l A or southern California kind of thing,

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like since the lights go down, like underground street racing.

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Okay, yeah, so more furious driving, not.

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Fast exactly, and you're just yelling like yeah that way,

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yeah the entire time.

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So Cohen he reads this, he reads this article not interested.

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He's like, I'll pass, yeah. And this guy's a little

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you know, exact litt persistent who whoa whoa. You need

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to go see one, you need to you need to

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be in this.

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It's it's this whole other world that it's this whole

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other culture.

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They have their own language.

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And Rob Cohen shows up at two o'clock in the

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morning to one of these illegal street races and he notices, look,

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if this were anywhere else, like, there'd be an issue

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with class, you know, there'd be class warfare, there'd be racism.

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But here everyone is unified, everyone's the same. It's all

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about who has the fastest car, who has the best

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paint job, who's with the prettiest girl, And he's fascinated

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by it, and immediately lightning strikes. He's like, wait, Paul

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wants a movie. He wants Days of Thunder and Donnie Brasco,

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We're gonna have a We're gonna have a cop infiltrate

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this world.

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It's amazing, right, Yeah.

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Yeah, he's gonna go undercover disguised as a surfer and

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they're gonna rob some bangs.

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I am an FBI agent.

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Actually, Cohen, so he calls this film a Western. Uh,

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there's a there's a pretty kick ass audio commentary on

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the Blu Ray. Yes, and he's like, look, say what

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you want, it's a Western, and he cites uh personally,

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he cites John Ford's stage Coach as his main inspiration. Sure,

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all right, well, you know every everyone's entitled to a

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good defense.

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So I'm gonna let him run with this.

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Uh.

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But he basically said, hey, you know the eighteen wheelers

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and fast and furious ones that are getting hijacked, Yeah,

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they are the stage.

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Coaches of of all of of the Old West time.

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You know, these souped up cars are like the you know,

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the band the bandits with their their their their horses

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galloping up and hijacking them. So I think that's kind

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of cool.

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I I like the I like the age comparison. I

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think that's kind of cool.

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But he also did recognize that there's some similar there's

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some he said, similarities to to point break, and his

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his whole, his whole defense to that is, look, if

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you're going to steal, steal from something great.

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Yeah.

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Remember he said that that's that's that's on that's on

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the Blu Ray audio commentary by the way, So uh,

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you know, he did acknowledge it, but you know, he said,

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there's some Donnie Brasco in there, and there's there's some

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point break.

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But if you're gonna steal, just steal from the best.

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So I just like how he said there's some similarities.

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That reminds me of when Vanilla Ice is giving the

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breakdown of how he didn't steal under pressure.

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Do you remember that when he was like, oh, you know,

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there's this didn't didn't didn't and ours is.

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Didn't.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I was like, are you change? That's the SIMI

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the vastly different, vastly different dude.

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Oh, man, what do you think, Like, like, I look,

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first off, I'm gonna I'm gonna unabashedly say I love

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the movie. It's it was for its time, it was awesome.

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It's still it's still awesome.

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I get it. The movies have jumped the shark, like

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four four movies ago. They're up to like.

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Fast and I think like out and outer space and

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yeah they're yeah.

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Yeah, but this one and it's it's the gritty, realistic version,

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which is weird to say in a fast and furious movie,

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But this one, I mean the cars, it's almost like

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a superhero movie, Like, yeah, the cars are like incredible looking.

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I love when we when we're introduced to the to

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the gang, the crew or what was the team they're

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known as the team.

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I like that. I like I like how Dom says that.

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I love how they like are all moving like like

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there's a very fluid way to how they drive together

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and they all kind of park like pull up quickly,

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you know, but in perfect sync like in rhythm stepping out.

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You know you had a thing for Letty first time

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she stepped out of that.

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You know what, I'm not gonna lie, I totally did.

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I mean so much so that like, after we watched

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this film, my uncle took all of us to go

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see these second one in theaters. That's how much we

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like I We fell in love with her. Of course

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with this and the first Resident Evil film that they did. Yeah,

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but no, just fell in love with the film concept

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behind this movie, and that's what drove us to want

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to go see Too Fast Two Fears in theaters. So no,

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I will agree for the time. I absolutely loved this

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movie when it first came out.

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It was amazing.

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Her Jordana Brewster both absolutely gorgeous. I mean just really

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steal your eye and kind of just carry your attention

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through some parts of that film.

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So I'm just I know a lot of times we'll

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do we'll go a little deeper into like the casting

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and some other you know, some of the sites. But

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I'm purposely not doing that, and I'll I'll get to

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why I got I got a I got something up

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my sleeve, you know, But just.

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A couple couple what ifs.

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So the role Dom's sister Miya role is specifically written for.

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Eliza is ith q Q.

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Yeah, I think it's.

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Yeah, turns it down. She's like, Nah, I don't want it,

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don't need it, which is crazy.

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But yeah, and then there's like a who's who of

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of nineties uh actresses, like among them, like Kirsten Dunst

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is one of them. They're all all trying to get

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this part. Jordana Brewster beats out several significant names.

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I'll say, I'll say it that way.

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Meanwhile, Brian O'Halleran, it's uh, you know they're looking at Eminem.

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Of course they are.

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But here's the thing. Here's the thing. Eminem says, he passes.

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He's he's not an actor at this.

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Point, he's just Eminem.

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Yeah, he says, no, so that he can go do

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his semi autobout biographical film eight Mile with Curtis Hansen.

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Yeah.

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I think he did the Wash with Doctor Dre around

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this time as well, which is the way he is.

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Yeah, another fun one. As they're getting this going, studio's like, hey, listen,

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we will we will greenlight this right now.

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We will sign a blank check.

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We want Dominic Toretto to be played by Timothy Oliphant.

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That I know.

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I absolutely love Timothy Oliphant as well, so I mean

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him and justified and you know, anything and everything.

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Ever he's freaking amazing. I don't care dead would.

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I mean, he's an amazing actor, but no, you have

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to do this with I don't think you could get

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away with anyone other than Vin Diesel at this point

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in time. I don't think they could have.

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Now when you think.

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About the way, like Dominic Tretto, the way he uses

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Brian to kind of realign his house, keep his guys

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in check, because like, hey, the new guys. You know,

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the Buster brought me back, you know, I mean he's

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kind of putting them all on notice. He commands a

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real presence and I get again, but this is before

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we're jumping the shark, and you know it's all about

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family and you know this and that. But I love

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the culture that he's created with his I mean, like,

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you know, he's known these guys, they've all been together

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since third grade, and yet he is the outlaw king here.

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He runs the show. They all fall in line. They

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do what Dom wants, they do what Dom says. I

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don't think Timothy Oliphant could have done that. It just

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doesn't work, and it doesn't have to work because he

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turns it down because he was already in a muscle

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car hy Adrenaline Movie the year before when he does

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Gone in sixty Seconds with Nicholas Cage.

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Yeah, he's like, I'm going to pass. Thank god the

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studio passed on something else. You know, sometimes you read

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something and you're like, that can't be real it I

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don't know.

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I think if I read it right, I think it was.

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It could have been Rob Cohen because he you know,

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he calls Paul Walker. But at some point someone up

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in the up the food chain was like, hey, we

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want we want Dominic Tretto to be played by Mario Lopez. Wait,

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wait of a fraud, And they wanted Brian to be

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played by uh Mark Paul Gosler.

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And last, but not least.

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Are you talking? Are you about to say Tiffany?

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No, that would have made sense at least, but no,

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you know, on Dom's team, you got Jesse like the

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kind of like the the weaker, brainy at kid who

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can you know they're looking at uh looking at Dustin Diamond.

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And the pitch was, these guys have had such great

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chemistry on Saved by the Bell, we could we could

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parlay that to this movie and turn into it and everyone,

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and thank god some exec was smart enough stop doing

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cocaine long enough to go.

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Actually, I don't think that's gonna be a good idea.

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I don't. I don't think people will see these guys.

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They'll just see Zach and.

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You know, a slater.

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So could you imagine the Fast and Furious Saved by the.

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Bell version Mark Paul Gosser at that point in time.

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He does kind of fit into almost the same.

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Role as Got It.

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Yeah, you know, he's got around the same build, blonde hair,

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you know, California looking kid. So I could buy that

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Mario Lopez as an alpha male dude where he would

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have to be. I've just never seen him be rude

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at anything ever, so it would be very weird to

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see mister smile just be like, Hey.

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Here's what he does, right, he wears the tank top.

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He's got the tank top already, He's got a collection

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to them. But could you see him with the the MULLI, Hey,

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preppy winning is winning man?

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Yeah? No, no, it does work for me.

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Doesn't work. I got two other fun facts for you,

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a little behind the scenes nuggets. Then we'll take a break.

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All of these racers, the street racers, Rob who has

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kind of infiltrated the world himself has decided we don't

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need to have a bunch of sag actors, you know,

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doing bit roles.

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I'm just to call the real guys.

479
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:43.799
Everyone you see in this movie, like at race Wars

480
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:46.920
and and on the street illegal street scenes, those are

481
00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:51.640
real non actors and those are their actual cars.

482
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:53.640
That's actually pretty awesome.

483
00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:57.319
Okay, yeah, you know the girls, like even the girl

484
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:01.680
who kind of promises job Rule a little a little

485
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:04.440
three way action. Yeah, that was just one of his

486
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:06.160
friends that he was like, she came to set with

487
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:07.839
joh Rule and Rob was.

488
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.119
Like, hey, you want to you want to go apart

489
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:10.599
real quick?

490
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:12.200
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so.

491
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.680
Yeah, uh that was I think that's kind of cool. Also,

492
00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:20.359
the film was called Racer X. They were just going

493
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:25.000
off the magazine article. No, no, that's like speed Racer.

494
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:27.240
It just doesn't doesn't work. Was in speed Racer.

495
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:29.759
Yeah, it reminds me of speed Racer.

496
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:31.119
Yeah.

497
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:34.359
They come across the title The Fast and Furious. It's

498
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.640
perfect except for the fact that it is attached to

499
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:42.519
a movie that Roger Corman directed in the fifties. And Corman,

500
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:48.440
who was a just was amazing, uh he he a

501
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:49.079
lot of his movies.

502
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:50.160
If you're a Roger Corman guy.

503
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:52.039
You know, a lot of his stuff has stock footage.

504
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:53.680
He was like, he was like a more expensive ed

505
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:57.039
Wood and and sometimes they make a deal with him.

506
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:00.799
Universal says, hey, we'll give you x amount of stock

507
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:02.799
footage from Universal Movies if you.

508
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:04.559
Let if you let us have the title, like we

509
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.599
can use the title. Sure.

510
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.440
Yeah, He's just like, yeah, I just made my library,

511
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:11.319
just got a lot bigger.51200:27:11.400 --> 00:27:13.759



Sure you can have the time. What's he care? Yeah?51300:27:14.599 --> 00:27:16.559



I thought that was kind of cool. And listen, there51400:27:17.440 --> 00:27:21.759



there is a wealth of knowledge about about this movie,51500:27:21.799 --> 00:27:26.720



about this franchise. I have personally not been digging into it.51600:27:26.759 --> 00:27:28.279



I didn't want to go I want to do it.51700:27:28.359 --> 00:27:28.880



And here's why.51800:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.680



Garrett listeners, if you're if you're listening or if you're51900:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.759



watching you know on YouTube. I'm just gonna tell you52000:27:35.640 --> 00:27:39.240



are good buddies. Jason and d at the Shrilly You52100:27:39.240 --> 00:27:42.200



Can't Be Serious podcasts, they floated an idea like, we52200:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.640



think we're gonna do point break at some point, and52300:27:44.720 --> 00:27:49.519



I said, please please do the point break versus the52400:27:49.559 --> 00:27:54.319



Fast and Furious matchup. And presently they have not seen52500:27:54.359 --> 00:27:55.279



the Fast and Furious.52600:27:55.839 --> 00:27:56.799



They've seen Point Break.52700:27:57.440 --> 00:27:59.599



So I've I've been I've been pleading with them. I'm52800:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.799



gonna ask all of our listeners, you know, hit just52900:28:02.880 --> 00:28:06.640



bump our their social media page or email them at uh,53000:28:06.839 --> 00:28:08.759



you know, and just let them know that you also53100:28:08.880 --> 00:28:13.039



want the Fast and Furious versus Point Break matchup, because53200:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.519



I think those two guys going under the hood of53300:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.839



a movie like Fast and Furious would be amazing. So53400:28:20.160 --> 00:28:24.559



Jason Dee, I'm calling you out. Bring your surfboard, bring53500:28:24.599 --> 00:28:28.119



your supra. Let's let's have a let's have an awesome episode.53600:28:28.640 --> 00:28:33.279



Oh yeah, Garrett, we are going to uh, We're gonna53700:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.240



take a quick break. When we get back, we are53800:28:36.279 --> 00:28:39.680



going to talk about We're gonna talk about a scene53900:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.960



and I We're definitely going to talk a little bit about.54000:28:43.480 --> 00:28:46.920



Point Break, even if even though we shouldn't, but we're54100:28:46.960 --> 00:28:53.839



going to. We'll be right back, Welcome back.54200:28:54.559 --> 00:28:57.559



Garrett and I are discussing two thousand and one's The54300:28:57.680 --> 00:29:02.359



Fast and Furious. So Garrett, uh, can we just go54400:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.119



ahead and and talk about it?54500:29:04.160 --> 00:29:05.200



Can we talk about Point Break?54600:29:05.799 --> 00:29:07.559



Yeah? Absolutely, Okay.54700:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.000



I you know, I'm not saying that The Fast and54800:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.759



Furious is a remake, and I'm not saying it's a54900:29:13.799 --> 00:29:17.480



reboot and I hate using the word reimaginate, that like55000:29:17.480 --> 00:29:22.119



a reimagination. Yeah, but I'm going I'm going to so55100:29:22.640 --> 00:29:24.640



I I've prepared a little, a little something for you.55200:29:25.400 --> 00:29:26.519



Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna stay.55300:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.640



I'm gonna make the case because there's plenty of people55400:29:28.640 --> 00:29:30.880



out there probably like, uh no, that I don't see that,55500:29:30.880 --> 00:29:32.440



I don't see the similarity. So the's probably a lot55600:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.759



of people are like, oh, yeah, it is, They're the55700:29:34.799 --> 00:29:40.559



same movie. So rhetorical question time, what which movie am55800:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.960



I talking about it? It's not gonna matter what you answer,55900:29:43.000 --> 00:29:46.519



because the answer you're you're right and you're wrong. So56000:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.519



let's talk about the the premise of the move of56100:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.839



this of this movie. You know, we got Brian O'Connor56200:29:52.920 --> 00:29:57.920



who he infiltrates. He goes undercover to infiltrate a street56300:29:58.000 --> 00:30:01.559



racing crew who is suspect did of hijacking these eighteen wheelers,56400:30:01.559 --> 00:30:04.759



like the merchandise off these trucks, right, Yeah, kind of56500:30:04.759 --> 00:30:09.880



sounds like Johnny Utah our boy Keanu Reeves. He infiltrates56600:30:09.880 --> 00:30:14.200



a group of surfers who are suspected of robbing banks.56700:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.480



Yes, Okay, okay, let's talk about the hero.56800:30:19.480 --> 00:30:23.000



So in one in one movie, we assign a an56900:30:23.079 --> 00:30:27.039



ex athlete turned rookie FBI agent who's got something to prove.57000:30:27.880 --> 00:30:29.799



And then in another movie, we we've got a young57100:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.000



LAPD officer trying to make detective, eager to prove himself.57200:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.440



He's got something kind of the same character.57300:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.160



Right, yeah, absolutely, they're.57400:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.440



Both classically handsome.57500:30:42.680 --> 00:30:46.640



Nothing wrong with that, right now, Yeah, let's talk about57600:30:46.640 --> 00:30:49.079



the villain, because you gotta have any good hero's gotta57700:30:49.079 --> 00:30:54.000



have a good villain. So if I said the movie,57800:30:54.039 --> 00:30:58.240



this movie has a like a philosophical, like a thrill57900:30:58.319 --> 00:31:02.079



seeking alpha male as their leader. Who am I talking about?58000:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.519



Am I talking about Body from Point Break? Or am58100:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.079



I talking about Dominic Turetto from The Fast and Furious?58200:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.079



And you could also throw in the fact that in58300:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.720



both films they treat their crew just as their family.58400:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.920



So I mean, yeah, yeah, well yeah.58500:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.160



I mean they each have a code, right, Like Body58600:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.480



is all about like this the spiritual he's all about58700:31:23.519 --> 00:31:27.000



He's he's got like this anti system, right he does58800:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.000



you know he is against the system. Well, while dom58900:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.400



you know, it's all about loyalty. He's all about family.59000:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.640



You know, even even even if it's crime, it's we're59100:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.680



gonna we're gonna do it the right way. We're gonna honor.59200:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.839



We're honor among these is dom thing. Right, So the59300:31:42.839 --> 00:31:43.880



each they each have a code.59400:31:43.960 --> 00:31:47.400



You know, let's talk about how these guys get infiltrate59500:31:47.440 --> 00:31:52.119



these these worlds. Because Paul Walker's character Brian O hollerand59600:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.119



he kind of falls for uh, you know, you know59700:31:56.240 --> 00:31:58.480



kind of well, you know, kind of falls for the59800:31:58.480 --> 00:32:03.960



girl who just happens to be Dominic's sister. Yeah, right,59900:32:04.640 --> 00:32:09.240



And if you look at Johnny Utah, he gets close60000:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.400



to Tyler, who was whose Body's ex girlfriend. But it's60100:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.839



like a they're cool, you know, they're chill, they're.60200:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.720



Friends, right, So there's a lot happening there, you know.60300:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.759



And meanwhile, Brian's got he's got to prove himself through,60400:32:20.920 --> 00:32:23.079



like he you don't just infiltrate this role without being60500:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.039



good at something, right, So he he proves himself with60600:32:25.079 --> 00:32:26.119



his street racing ability.60700:32:26.160 --> 00:32:26.319



Right.60800:32:27.279 --> 00:32:32.319



Utah learns how to surf, you know, play some some60900:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.839



football beach on the beach football, takes on some neo61000:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.640



Nazis so he earns they each earn the respect of61100:32:38.799 --> 00:32:39.680



the the.61200:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.079



Alpha male, the criminal alpha male.61300:32:41.480 --> 00:32:42.960



They do it again.61400:32:43.279 --> 00:32:44.599



It's the same movie, you know.61500:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.400



And then what happens when we've got when the cop,61600:32:48.680 --> 00:32:51.359



you know, they're bonding, they're making an emotional connection with61700:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.640



the bad guy, so all of a sudden they both61800:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.480



start kind of questioning their mission, right, I mean, think61900:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.519



think about our guy, uh Ted Levine, he's playing Brian's boss.62000:33:02.960 --> 00:33:08.440



It's Torett O'Brien. It's always been Toretto, you know. You know, Bucy,62100:33:09.400 --> 00:33:11.359



I think you were getting too close to your surfing butt.62200:33:11.400 --> 00:33:13.519



You know. It's like they're the same guy.62300:33:14.480 --> 00:33:15.359



They really are.62400:33:16.319 --> 00:33:20.000



Yeah, we got you know, and we got the you know,62500:33:20.079 --> 00:33:23.319



the the ex Presidents, they're they're they're surfing, the Robin Banks,62600:33:23.359 --> 00:33:27.400



you got the fact, you know, Team Tretto, they're they're62700:33:27.400 --> 00:33:31.000



street racing, they're they're ripping off these trucks. I don't know, man,62800:33:31.240 --> 00:33:36.240



I just I feel like it's undeniable. You have to62900:33:36.240 --> 00:33:40.319



see that these are yeah, absolutely the you know. And63000:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.039



then here's the other thing too. In both situations, the63100:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.000



the criminal, the alpha male criminal discovers the true identity,63200:33:48.079 --> 00:33:49.880



knows that he like the guy that's getting close.63300:33:49.759 --> 00:33:50.359



To him, as a cop.63400:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.440



Yeah, doesn't kill him because the bro code isn't is63500:33:54.480 --> 00:33:59.039



in play now right? And finally, in both situations, the63600:33:59.119 --> 00:34:00.000



bad guy gets away.63700:34:00.880 --> 00:34:06.359



They do purposely. The hero car mangled car. You firing63800:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.400



your gun in there. It's going to be a similar63900:34:09.480 --> 00:34:10.360



situation there.64000:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.880



Yeah, you chase, You chase the guy down to Bells Beach, Australia.64100:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.079



You cuff him, it's over.64200:34:17.000 --> 00:34:18.519



Yeah, And he just wants to just give him one64300:34:18.599 --> 00:34:20.840



last ride, to give one last wave, and he lets64400:34:20.880 --> 00:34:22.880



him go and gives it up. He's like, I'm out,64500:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.760



I'm no longer a cop. Brian does the same thing64600:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.039



in The Fast and Furious Man. Yeah, I just, uh,64700:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.559



I don't know. I love both these movies, by the way,64800:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.079



I just but I had to I had to talk64900:34:35.119 --> 00:34:35.800



about you know.65000:34:36.480 --> 00:34:40.039



Of course. Yeah, they're undeniable.65100:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.000



Yeah, I think uh, I think we took surfing and65200:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.239



turned it to the street racing. I think we took65300:34:48.800 --> 00:34:51.719



zen philosophy and turned it into family loyalty.65400:34:52.239 --> 00:34:56.199



And yeah it's clever. I'm here for it though, absolutely65500:34:56.199 --> 00:34:56.639



here for it.65600:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.840



Let me ask you, uh, let's talk about a scene,65700:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.519



favorite scene, best acting. You know, what do you what65800:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.000



do you got pivotal moments? Is it pisson Amber Lewis off?65900:35:08.039 --> 00:35:10.280



I don't know if this is not her, this is66000:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.960



not her movie. I could see her being taking issue66100:35:12.960 --> 00:35:14.400



with a lot of things on this movie, but what66200:35:14.480 --> 00:35:15.360



do you got?66300:35:16.199 --> 00:35:23.440



Honestly, kind of favorite scene is where Vince is of66400:35:23.480 --> 00:35:27.880



course bleeding out and everything during the truck hijacking and66500:35:27.960 --> 00:35:31.159



he ends up getting winged in aside there and Brian66600:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.199



has to call it in and he says that he's66700:35:34.239 --> 00:35:38.840



a cop. Vin's face says or Dom's face says it66800:35:38.880 --> 00:35:43.599



all in this scene and just that absolute betrayal because66900:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.719



he did not want to believe it at any colls67000:35:46.719 --> 00:35:51.400



that he would betray him. So honestly, just that bit67100:35:51.480 --> 00:35:55.039



of acting in emotion that you can see in Dominic's face,67200:35:55.239 --> 00:35:58.920



just because he viewed him as a brother this entire67300:35:59.000 --> 00:36:03.719



time and trail, Yeah, exactly, the betrayal. It's it's just67400:36:03.840 --> 00:36:08.920



that subtle, like no way, like dude, It just destroys it,67500:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.280



like his perception on reality at the point in time.67600:36:12.320 --> 00:36:16.159



Because yeah, I mean, so that scene right there really67700:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.360



speaks volumes to me because there's so much going on.67800:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.599



One of his best friends has been shot, he's bleeding67900:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.000



out his other best friends trying to save him, and68000:36:25.079 --> 00:36:30.400



then you get that turn and yeah, yeah great to me.68100:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.000



Yeah, it's it's solid.68200:36:33.559 --> 00:36:36.559



So I'm gonna give you a mirror image because your68300:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.880



scene is all about an amazing performance by Vin Diesel.68400:36:41.159 --> 00:36:44.480



It's all about this reveal and we know that there's68500:36:44.480 --> 00:36:48.559



gonna be consequences. Absolutely, I'm gonna give you the same68600:36:48.840 --> 00:36:50.480



for those same reasons.68700:36:50.679 --> 00:36:52.000



This is why I picked my scene.68800:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.679



And I'm talking about the two.68900:36:55.480 --> 00:36:57.800



Of them in the garage. Is she in the charger69000:36:57.880 --> 00:37:01.320



for the first time? Oh yeah, I live my life.69100:37:01.079 --> 00:37:05.079



A quarter mile at a time. We get a chance69200:37:05.119 --> 00:37:10.559



to find out what made Dominic Toretto, who dominant Tretto is?69300:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.400



Why did he beat this guy within an inch of69400:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.639



his life and go to jail? What's the story behind it?69500:37:17.199 --> 00:37:21.039



And it's a heartbreaking story. It is you're kind of69600:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.880



like it's an unforgivable crime. But at the same time,69700:37:24.920 --> 00:37:27.760



now we've got we got a villain that we care about.69800:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.320



We got a villain who who's haunted by what his actions.69900:37:31.360 --> 00:37:34.840



He regrets what he did. Yeah, and that so's tense,70000:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.000



Like he's talking about those ten seconds. You know, his team,70100:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.440



all their bullshit, nothing, nothing matters but those tens in70200:37:41.480 --> 00:37:43.239



those ten seconds.70300:37:42.840 --> 00:37:43.400



He's free.70400:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.039



It's the one time in his life he's free. It's70500:37:46.639 --> 00:37:48.559



great moment. I love I love that scene.70600:37:48.920 --> 00:37:50.000



Such a good scene.70700:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.679



Yeah, let's run the numbers real quick and then we'll70800:37:52.679 --> 00:37:56.079



wrap things up. So this one opens on June twenty second,70900:37:56.119 --> 00:37:59.960



two thousand and one, with a Garrett Gibson official runtime.71000:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.440



Of in seven minutes, one hundred and seven minutes. Like71100:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.039



oh yeah, uh, it.71200:38:06.159 --> 00:38:10.920



Grows two hundred and seven point five million worldwide. Yeah,71300:38:11.079 --> 00:38:13.360



on a budget of thirty eight million.71400:38:13.360 --> 00:38:14.639



Which is pretty damn impressive.71500:38:16.280 --> 00:38:16.880



If you were.71600:38:16.719 --> 00:38:20.159



Wondering how this they made like nine sequels and a71700:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.239



video game and an animated series.71800:38:23.039 --> 00:38:25.639



And hits and everything else.71900:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.400



Yeah, well that's when you when your budgets thirty eight72000:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.159



million and you do two hundred and seven that's that's72100:38:31.199 --> 00:38:34.639



gonna happen. Yeah, was the number one movie during its72200:38:34.679 --> 00:38:37.880



opening weekend, No shock there. It beats out Lara Croft72300:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.159



tomb Raider, which I got to say is a little72400:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.760



surprising because that's the first tomb Raider and that that72500:38:43.840 --> 00:38:47.800



game was a cultural phenomenon, like everyone.72600:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.519



New and you're talking two thousand and one and joining Joey.72700:38:51.639 --> 00:38:55.639



Oh my gosh joy Yeah right, yeah.72800:38:55.719 --> 00:38:58.199



So it beats it beats It beats a tomb Raider,72900:38:58.239 --> 00:39:01.119



It beats Atlantis. The Lost Empire eats Doctor Dolittle too.73000:39:01.519 --> 00:39:07.320



Uh people, people, they might have wanted to see sexy73100:39:08.119 --> 00:39:13.360



uh action hero women that that weekend, but uh, they73200:39:13.360 --> 00:39:16.199



wanted to see Letty more than they want to see Angelina, So.73300:39:16.440 --> 00:39:17.599



Yes they did.73400:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.400



When released in to DVD.73500:39:20.400 --> 00:39:24.280



Two thousand and two, it's still two point million copies73600:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.400



on its Garrett on its first day. Oh shit, okay,73700:39:29.440 --> 00:39:36.000



yeah yeah, and eighteen point six million in video store73800:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.000



rental revenue in its first week.73900:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.360



Uh yeah, I can say one of those was me74000:39:41.440 --> 00:39:42.920



and my uncles for sure.74100:39:43.719 --> 00:39:44.519



Yeah.74200:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.159



I think that's saying something though, Because this is two74300:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.719



thousand and two, the video stores were starting to go extinct.74400:39:50.119 --> 00:39:51.760



A lot of them were gone, Mom and pops were74500:39:51.760 --> 00:39:52.239



all gone.74600:39:52.800 --> 00:39:56.079



I was like Hollywood Video, Blockbuster Movie Gallery there, like74700:39:56.119 --> 00:39:57.079



the last Big Three.74800:39:57.599 --> 00:39:57.880



See.74900:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.800



I think my uncle Tom took us to Family Video75000:40:00.880 --> 00:40:04.119



and got this and probably got some weird I think75100:40:04.159 --> 00:40:05.800



we got Manhunt video game.75200:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.880



If I'm not mistaken. I think that's what we also got.75300:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.760



Shout out shout out to your uncle for video games75400:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.639



and Fast and Furious, Garrett. I want to ask you,75500:40:16.679 --> 00:40:21.599



Rob Cohen if obviously some everyone saw this movie, but75600:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.920



if someone's like, I'm kind of curious, like, what else75700:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.800



has Rob Cohen done an underrated movie that or a75800:40:27.840 --> 00:40:31.599



project so written by, directed by, or starring What project75900:40:31.639 --> 00:40:35.039



would you suggest by Rob Cohen? Because I'm really anxious76000:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.320



to hear your your your answer here.76100:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.360



Because there's some good there's some good options here.76200:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.519



So there's something he was an executive producer on in76300:40:43.639 --> 00:40:47.480



nineteen eighty seven. The film is called The Monster Squad76400:40:47.880 --> 00:40:49.880



and it is freaking amazing.76500:40:50.599 --> 00:40:51.199



God damn it.76600:40:51.320 --> 00:40:56.079



Okay, so it's got nerds. I'm gonna be honest with you.76700:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.159



It's written by, directed by her starring.76800:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.360



And when I saw that he executive produce The Monster Squad,76900:41:01.360 --> 00:41:03.639



I was like, yeah, I kind of want to break77000:41:03.639 --> 00:41:04.280



the rule.77100:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.199



And just pick this because we love The Monster Squad.77200:41:08.079 --> 00:41:09.719



I met We met them all.77300:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.119



Yeah, we met them all at Scarefest. We've talked to him.77400:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.679



They actually did the show or not, well, they did.77500:41:16.519 --> 00:41:17.880



Our one of our comments specials.77600:41:17.920 --> 00:41:21.519



We did a live interview with them at Scarefest and77700:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.840



just An amazing time. I said, no, I'm not gonna77800:41:24.840 --> 00:41:25.760



do it. I'll play by the rules.77900:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.880



But if Garrett, if you want to rule, I.78000:41:28.840 --> 00:41:32.559



Said, if Garrett wants to if Garrett tells you winnings winning,78100:41:32.679 --> 00:41:34.360



if he wants to live a quarter mile of his78200:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.360



life at a time and he wants to cheat, I'm78300:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.239



gonna and as long as he says monster Squad, I'm in.78400:41:38.280 --> 00:41:40.119



So thank you for that, thank you for doing that.78500:41:43.239 --> 00:41:44.920



I'm gonna give you. I'll make up for it though.78600:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.519



I'm gonna give you one that he uh that he78700:41:47.599 --> 00:41:48.639



wrote and directed.78800:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.599



Okay, one of my all time favorites by well, definitely78900:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.599



my favorite by Rob Cohen nineteen ninety three Dragon, the79000:41:55.599 --> 00:41:56.360



Bruce Lee story.79100:41:57.000 --> 00:41:58.360



Ooh see, that's amazing.79200:41:58.800 --> 00:41:59.599



Yeah, Garrett.79300:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.679



Look, I've said it a time or two on the show.79400:42:02.920 --> 00:42:06.519



I absolutely love Bruce Lee. Big fan of Bruce Lee79500:42:06.880 --> 00:42:12.519



and Jason Scott. Lee gives an incredibly authentic performance as79600:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.639



Bruce and watching the show. Watching the movie, I mean,79700:42:15.639 --> 00:42:17.719



I own it. I've seen it a hundred times. What79800:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.599



always surprises me, even like I could watch it tomorrow79900:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.679



and I still think this, I'd still be amazed. It's80000:42:23.719 --> 00:42:25.599



the fact that when you watch you guys, Remember Jason80100:42:25.639 --> 00:42:30.440



Scott Lee had absolutely no training or experience in martial80200:42:30.519 --> 00:42:36.760



arts before that movie. Whoa Okay, now he is a80300:42:36.800 --> 00:42:42.360



He's an amazing dancer, well trained dancer. And the producers,80400:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.360



like everyone, all the creators were like, we need a80500:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.079



very accomplished dancer to play Bruce Lee because only a80600:42:49.159 --> 00:42:53.800



dancer could capture like how fluid his movement is.80700:42:54.360 --> 00:42:56.119



Yeah, it came. Yeah.80800:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.079



The amount of choreography that would have to go into that,80900:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.480



it is essentially a Dan say you're putting.81000:43:02.280 --> 00:43:04.000



On Yeah, sensational.81100:43:04.760 --> 00:43:06.320



I know you can rent this on Prime, you can81200:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.719



rent it on Apple TV. Where'd you watch this at,81300:43:08.760 --> 00:43:09.880



Garrett or do you own it?81400:43:10.519 --> 00:43:13.400



Actually still own a copy of it from way back81500:43:13.480 --> 00:43:16.800



when so went ahead and broke out the DVD copy81600:43:16.840 --> 00:43:19.320



of it, fired it and fired it up nice.81700:43:19.920 --> 00:43:21.519



Honestly enjoyed the ride.81800:43:22.239 --> 00:43:23.519



I did too, I always do.81900:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.400



Like I said, I will not apologize for thinking these82000:43:27.440 --> 00:43:31.000



are just fun popcorn movies, whether it's too fast, too furious,82100:43:31.079 --> 00:43:34.960



or it's fast five or wherever however we're at in it.82200:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.360



I wanted to show this off.82300:43:38.199 --> 00:43:43.840



To you that is pretty awesome, Like, Okay, look.82400:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.039



At the tread on that bad lady. Nice.82500:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.360



So this is not the wheel did not fall off82600:43:51.400 --> 00:43:56.480



my RC car. Okay, this is my Fast and Furious82700:43:56.519 --> 00:43:58.280



box set. This is the Blu ray box set that82800:43:58.320 --> 00:44:02.360



I got. And it's just it's just a wheel and82900:44:02.679 --> 00:44:07.639



you know inside. Yeah, and here's what, here's what's here's where.83000:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.039



Universal is just absolutely amazing.83100:44:10.639 --> 00:44:11.360



Yeah, you can't see.83200:44:11.480 --> 00:44:13.880



I don't want to dump him out, but the spindle83300:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.280



has some height on it because they they released this83400:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.559



before they knew all the movies would be be finished. Yeah,83500:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.000



so there's a there's like this much space you can83600:44:23.000 --> 00:44:28.559



buy like the last three and the brilliant Thank you Universal,83700:44:28.599 --> 00:44:29.400



thank you very much.83800:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.360



Yeah. Well, I think that's gonna do it for us.83900:44:33.039 --> 00:44:33.360



Uh.84000:44:33.400 --> 00:44:34.800



This Friday, though.84100:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.079



On a film on a film buy, we'll be talking84200:44:37.079 --> 00:44:41.400



about Paul Walker's other two thousand and one film, John84300:44:41.480 --> 00:44:46.559



Dall's Highway thriller This Guy Can't See off the Roads, Garrett, Uh, Highway,84400:44:46.599 --> 00:44:51.480



it's joy Ride. And I know you're excited because our84500:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.719



our our very own slasher girl Managantic.84600:44:55.559 --> 00:44:57.440



We'll be back with us. She's she's gonna talk joy84700:44:57.519 --> 00:45:00.199



Ride with us. And we made the decision. We're like hey,84800:45:00.960 --> 00:45:02.760



we could. I mean, she's been on the show before,84900:45:02.960 --> 00:45:06.400



right yeah, but our listeners have never had the opportunity85000:45:06.400 --> 00:45:06.960



to see her.85100:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.719



So we're gonna you know, it'll be on the normal feed,85200:45:10.960 --> 00:45:13.400



you know, whether you're listening on Spotify or you know,85300:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.960



app or whatever. But you can go to our YouTube85400:45:17.000 --> 00:45:21.480



channel at a Film by Podcast and you'll be able85500:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.360



to see us talk about joy Ride. Amanda will be85600:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.960



in the being on on on the episode for that one.85700:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.079



Looking forward to it. It's you know, it's gonna be85800:45:30.119 --> 00:45:30.599



a great time.85900:45:31.239 --> 00:45:31.599



It will.86000:45:32.199 --> 00:45:32.920



Yeah.86100:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.440



So if you've seen Joyride, how would you summarize it86200:45:35.599 --> 00:45:36.519



in five words?86300:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.559



Exactly five words? Let us know.86400:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.800



Hit us up on social media. You can email us86500:45:40.840 --> 00:45:43.559



at a film by podcast dot com to us know86600:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.360



if you if we pick your answer, we'll probably send86700:45:46.400 --> 00:45:47.519



you some cool film by swag.86800:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.519



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In the meantime, join us when you're not on YouTube,87000:45:53.519 --> 00:45:57.599



join us on social media. You'll find us on Instagram, Facebook, X.87100:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.639



We always love hearing from you guys. Interacts. There's been87200:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.159



a lot of that going on with previously on I87300:46:02.199 --> 00:46:02.679



don't know if.87400:46:02.559 --> 00:46:02.960



You saw that.87500:46:03.079 --> 00:46:08.199



Oh yeah, some interesting I'm forgetting the name, but someone87600:46:08.320 --> 00:46:12.039



recently blew my mind on dt F Saint Louis with87700:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.599



some thoughts about Carol. Yeah, so yeah, I know, I87800:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.639



know we'll be you know, we'll be back to that87900:46:17.760 --> 00:46:18.719



here momentary.88000:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.519



My favorite comment is one that keeps popping up. It's88100:46:22.559 --> 00:46:26.199



a recent subscriber that we got. But that's good Soup.88200:46:29.280 --> 00:46:34.599



Yeah, who is the good Soup guy? Yeah, that's good Soup.88300:46:34.760 --> 00:46:36.239



I was like, Yeah. The first time I saw it88400:46:36.320 --> 00:46:39.079



was like, that's kind of cool, and the second.88500:46:38.840 --> 00:46:42.960



I was like, Okay, we're about.88600:46:42.679 --> 00:46:46.679



To have the film by Good Soup T shirt if88700:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.280



that keeps up. Yeah, well, Garrett, listen, thank you for88800:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.239



joining me for the Fast and Furious. Thank you for88900:46:53.360 --> 00:46:57.119



all your help on previously on absolutely brother, we're cranking89000:46:57.159 --> 00:46:58.760



it out over there like you Like, we're dropping what89100:46:58.800 --> 00:46:59.960



three episodes a week.89200:46:59.800 --> 00:47:01.800



Now on YouTube free before I.89300:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.440



Mean, watching too much damn TV man, we are.89400:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.400



It feels like a second job. Like I said, the89500:47:08.440 --> 00:47:13.400



boys coming up. We've got something bad, We've got We've89600:47:13.400 --> 00:47:16.440



got We've got d t F. I mean, we've got89700:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.719



so much in the works right now. Honestly, just having89800:47:19.719 --> 00:47:20.639



a blast doing it.89900:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.599



So yeah, well, thank you man, I'm glad I'm glad90000:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.599



you're having a blast. I'm having a blast. We'll keep90100:47:24.639 --> 00:47:27.920



doing it, uh as far as keeping, you know, keeping90200:47:27.920 --> 00:47:28.400



and doing it.90300:47:28.559 --> 00:47:28.760



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