March 2, 2026

David Frankel -The Devil Wears Prada

David Frankel -The Devil Wears Prada
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Jeff and Angela.

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I think it's safe to say no offense, but none

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of us are really fashionistas.

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Absolutely not fair T shirts and jeans all the way

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I'm saying.

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I just got back from an ugly skirt convention.

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I got Starbucks and an unreleased Kinder script for everybody.

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So I don't know what you're talking about.

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No, no, that wasn't a question.

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But I want to know what is your most favorite

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item of clothing?

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A comfy T shirt? Yeah, like anyone.

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Special or just just anything that's comfy and it feels good.

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Yeah.

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I mean usually I've got a lot of slogans on

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that are relating to, uh, you know, I'd rather be

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with my.

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Dog that kind of stuff.

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And occasionally I'll have like a funny Jane Austin theme

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themed one, but usually it's going to be some.

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Kind of yeah dog, really comfy T shirt.

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Jeff, how about you?

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It's got to be my original cincinna Read's ball cap.

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And I say originalised in like one of the first

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ones I ever bought. Bought it when I was seventeen.

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I still own it, so it's now It was jet

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black when I when I first bought it is now

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a very light.

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Light prey color. But I won't fly without it.

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I've lost it in the ocean and the tide spit

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it back out the day later.

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I lost it on a roller coaster. Yeah, I lost

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it on a roller coaster and a guy caught it

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and was waiting for me. So it's it's my lucky hat.

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It's Indiana Jones has Indiana Jones hass Fedora.

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I have my faded cincinna Read's ball.

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Cap that is amazing well and will probably not come

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as a surprise. Mine is a T shirt that my

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mother bought me one we went to Salem, Massachusetts. It's

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black and written on it in gold letters is the

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phrase we are the grand of the Witches.

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You could not burn.

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Nan lewis one of our favorite Patreon members.

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Yes, love man, She's always making a good request for us.

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All right.

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Well, as you know, we have changed things up a

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little bit this season, and instead of discussing underrated classics,

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we are diving into hit films from two thousand and

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one and two thousand and six, and these films are

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celebrating their twentieth or twenty fifth anniversaries this year. So

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with that in mind and despite our less than fashionable credentials,

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we are going to practice our catwalk and discuss the

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two thousand and six hit from director David Frankel, The

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Devilwar's Product.

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All right, welcome everyone. I'm Amber Lewis, I'm Angela Norris.

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And I am jeff Johnson.

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And this is the film by podcast Jeffrey, didn't you

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have something you wanted to share?

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Actually I do. It is a new month, It's March.

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We are kicking off Merrill and Kidman Month in honor

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of these two amazing actresses, and it's Women's history month.

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So thank you to the two of you for keeping

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the door unlocked so I could come in and talk

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about this one with you. I know you guys are

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going to be busy this month, so yes.

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We are taking over the studio of course. So now

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when I think of The Devil Worsprada, the first thing

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I think of is the source novel.

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Did either of you read it?

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No?

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No, okay? And the second thing I think of is

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the cast. But unfortunately, until I was prepping for this episode,

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could not have told you who directed it. Had like

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no clue, no idea, didn't mean a thing.

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So well, let's talk about poor David Frankel and give

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him some attention. Here are three things that Angela definitely

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doesn't know about him, and the quote the first bit

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of trivia I found was in two thousand and one.

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He directed two episodes of Sex and the City and

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two episodes of Band of Brothers, including one of the

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series' most powerful episodes, episode nine, Why We Fight.

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Great episode.

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Yeah, but I mean talk about swinging the pendulum.

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I was gonna say that is very two opposite ends.

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We got some war, we got some who.

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Knows, right, I mean, was it a very Samantha heavy episode.

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I mean there's a lot of action. I mean depend

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on how you look at action.

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Yeah.

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I was so focused on the Band of Brothers thing

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that I didn't look up which episode.

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The Sex of the City it was. But I just

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can't get over that.

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Like, one day you go to work and you know

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you're doing this, and the next day of work you're

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in the middle of a battlefield.

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I just that's impressive to me.

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Well, considering.

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Some of the drama behind the scenes that might have been,

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like you know what, I'm just gonna go to war.

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Right, I don't want to go back to that.

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Please God, send me to Best of Yeah, I don't

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want to go back to New York. And then in

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two thousand and five, he wrote an episode of one

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of my favorite shows, the HBO show Rome. It's I

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rewatched it because I didn't remember like the episode, and

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it's like transition episodes, so not a whole lot happens,

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but there's like five different storylines and a whole lot

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of moving pieces on the board. So it's pretty impressive that,

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like you can just dive right in and write an

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episode that kind of bridges like that.

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You mentioned HBO series one of your favorites, and I

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thought for sure. I was like, I was about to

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be surprised because I know he wrote for another HBO

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series which was one of my favorites.

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And you know, given that it's Women's History Month, it's.

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A probably a perfect time to talk about Entourage because

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he also wrote he wrote that too, So.

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I mean, what that has to do for women's history.

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I'm sure I don't know.

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There were women on this show.

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I mean Rome has a lot better women team Atia

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all the way, you guys need to watch that show.

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And then the last bit of trivia I have for

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you in nineteen ninety seven, he won the Academy Award

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for Best Live Action Short Film for the film Dear

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Diary starring bb Newarth.

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It's available on YouTube.

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I can't really evaluate whether or not it's Oscar worthy,

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but it is one hundred percent the reason handed up

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directing so many episodes of sex in the City. Like

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it's like the proto sex in the City. It's really interesting.

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So you did.

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Okay, so you've seen it because you you sparked my

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curiosity in my interest with BB Neworth, because.

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Yeah, love Frasier, love Lilith.

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So I will you know if it's available on YouTube,

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I'm definitely gonna go check it out.

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Yes, some some kind kind soul uploaded it for us,

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so you can check that out. It's not great quality,

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but you know, it's nineteen ninety seven.

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What do you want.

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It's off of VHS, right.

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So here's a quote from an interview that he did

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about The Devil Worst Product. When act asked whether he

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sets shots in advance, Frankel said, I like to see

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what actors do you first. That comes from my having

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seen this great documentary on Stanley Kubrick's passive planning. He

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didn't say anything to actors. He just saw what they

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did inevitably, well, ninety nine percent of the time, their

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instincts are better than anything I'd think of. Then we

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figure out shots. Shots aren't that important. The most important

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thing is the characters.

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Wow, he's taken cues from Kubrick.

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I'm wondering if he drove his actors insane with like

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hundreds of takes, you know. Oh goodness, maybe that's why

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this guy doesn't have such a huge filmography.

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I don't know, but I don't know.

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I mean, I was even like kind of prepared to

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find out that he didn't exist at all, because they're.

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Like almost nothing about him.

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You know.

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It's like he lives, he's married, and he made these movies.

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Like it's there's just nothing. So it was very interesting

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trying to to research who he is and what he

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thinks about his work. All right, So this year we're

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doing something new. Jeff has thrust upon us the five

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word synopsis, yeah, which is quickly becoming the bane of

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my existence.

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What you did good? The last time I struggle, you

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have no idea.

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I came up too.

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Oh good, if you need well, because I figured one

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might maybe one of you guys might have come up

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with some little bit sucker is so boring.

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So Angela, hit us up what you got, all.

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Right, I'll do one fashion industry icon obliterates assistant. Wow.

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I yes, that's fantastic.

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I love it.

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That is we're going we can't come up with anything better, Jeff,

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give it a try.

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But it's it's U taking a backseat to Angela here.

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But I have and I use and I have two

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of her words. So interestingly enough, I have fashion industry challenges, outsiders, integrity.

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I like it.

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Thank you be more of a thinker.

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Yeah that's right, not just a pretty face.

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So my kindergarten entry fashion boss makes life.

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Hell oh that's no, that's good.

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Like that's like no, hold on, you got you got

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to remember though, the way this game plays, it's you're

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you're giving five words and then someone needs to be

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able to guess it. Now with with Angela's you're you're

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probably playing against a cinophile.

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But yours is good for like real people who just

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like just real people that like the movies, people that

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just like that.

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Like, you know, I'm like the computer tester or you

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a robot? Are you a centophile?

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No?

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No?

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Uh no offense to all our cinophiles that I'm a centophile.

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Sometimes I like a dumb popcorn movie too, so you know,

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it's it's all good five word synopsis.

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I can give you my My second one was fashion

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is a Cruel Mistress.

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Oh, that would be hard to guess this.

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It was a little bit more vague.

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Yeah, yeah, that might you know if the cinophile we

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might say that's unzipped or that's Predator.

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Or phantom Thread or something like.

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Yeah, wait, are you are you impressed that I I

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just dropped and said it right, like, yeah, that's uh,

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it means ready to wear For all of our listeners,

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I know stuff'd.

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Be at least a little impressed. And I'm so proud

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of you for watching this movie. Like I can't even

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talk about it.

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Do you do?

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You do?

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I get into that real quick.

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I mean, yeah, I've been waiting for like.

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Well, I I wanted to have the freshest take possible.

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So I actually watched this movie The Devil Worst Product.

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For the very first time about six hours ago and fresh.

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I was very, very happily surprised. I'm gonna be honest,

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I thought I was sitting down to uh work my

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way through two hours of a chick flick, and it

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is anything but that. This is a fantastic film about power,

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struggle and making your own way, and it's just got

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some incredible performances. So I was very happy to be

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watching this today.

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Oh kay, I'm so glad.

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Yeah.

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All right, we're gonna take a quick break and when

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we come back, we're going to dive into this amazing cast.

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All right, welcome back, everybody.

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We are talking about the two thousand and six hit

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The Devil Wears Prada, and we're going to talk about

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the cast and crew. We got to dive in to

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Meryl Strap.

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Yes, who is she?

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I'm hot and cold with her, but oh my god,

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do I love her in this movie.

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I kind of.

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Didn't do it like a review, but I kind of

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came up with a nice little description about Miranda. I said,

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she is crystal clear with jagged spikes and every word

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that steps on your neck like a shiny new pair

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of Prada heels.

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That's interesting because I have a different take because watching again,

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watching this for the very first time today, her introduction

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coming into the building and the flutter of activity, activity, it.

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Looks well, it was familiar.

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This scene looked very familiar to me, and I was

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thinking about it, and then I realized, it's my understanding.

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This is exactly how the film by Studio plays out.

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Any time I'm not around in Amber Lewis is walking

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in and to host an episode, so.

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Very familiar territory.

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Play yourselves together.

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Interestingly enough, Meryl Streep was almost passed over for the

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role of Miranda because some people at the studio thought

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she had never been funny a day in her life.

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Funny you, Yes, I mean she's hilarious.

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Like well, I mean in this movie.

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Yes, But I'm just saying in other Meryl Streep roles,

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I think of her as a very dramatic actress. Her well,

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oh yeah, okay, she's She's fantastic in that. That's an

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awesome movie.

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She Devil that doesn't get enough attention.

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Never saw it.

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Oh my god, she is hilarious. She is so ridiculous

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in that movie. Daniels in it. Oh god, yeah, that's

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one of my.

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Guess n.

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No, oh god, all right, focus, Angey. You said that

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you found out there were other actresses considered.

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I M d B. This is there was a.

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List of several actresses that were being considered for Miranda thought, so,

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I thought it might be fun. I could name them

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and we kind of give a yea or nay, and

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I'll give like a little tally and see who would

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have been like our runner.

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Ups, if you guys are up for yeah, all right,

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first one, Jennifer and.

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No as Miranda.

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As this is as Miranda.

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The actresses considered Okay, Kim Besinger, No.

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No, No, she's I don't well, she's I just don't

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think she could pull pull off a role like this.

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She's now Cameron Diaz.

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Hold on, hold on, wait a minute.

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I can't think Cameron Diaz in any given Sunday and

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she's a contender.

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She's not better than Merrill.

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No, I can't stand her.

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Well, what about what you can't stand her? Okay, well

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I'm sure.

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Well, Well, when we do Cam, when we do Cameron Diaz, month,

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I don't know what you're gonna do.

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You and I are gonna I'm gonna be conversation.

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I'm kidding. There's no Cameron as.

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Much Heather Graham.

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Oh she now, I love I listen, I love Heather.

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I've met Heather.

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Heather is amazing, and she's a very she's a very

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talented director.

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But I don't see this as a role for her.

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Angelina Jolie No, Lisa Kudrow, No, No.

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Helen Mirren yes, okay.

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Yeah, the final, the championship Finals, it's it's Mirren and

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Meryll definitely.

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Wait what about Emma Thompson she was those are my too,

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Helen Marren.

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Emma Thompson, Emma's too too, too warm in most.

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Of her roles.

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She's have you watched Corella No, not only that, but

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if you if you've seen The Bridge Jones baby and

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then Mad about a Boy, which she she plays.

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O B g y and oh my god, it's I

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haven't watched that.

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Yeah, and then just a couple of names we don't

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have to you know, kind of vote. But they also

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had Gwyneth Paltrow, Michelle Pfeiffer, Julie Roberts, Meg Ryan, Naomi Watts.

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I mean, but maybe, but no, Helen Marren is is

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the one.

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Yeah, so anyway, Fiers not old enough for the role.

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No, yeah, none of them are, Like they're like five

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years older than Anna Hathaway like that, right, did you know?

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Uh you know, I mean I guess we're talking about

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these actresses because she Streep initially turned it down.

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Well, she was like, I'm gonna get paid, is.

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What she You know, she turned down the role because uh,

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you know, they weren't offering her the money that she want.

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They ultimately double the offer and it makes for one

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of the.

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Biggest paydays that she had had at that point. So

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good for her.

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Yes, I was so excited when I read that. I

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was like, get that money, girl.

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Well, especially then when we get to the numbers part

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of how much money that.

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Well, and she said like, you know, considering the role

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and what I am bringing to this movie, like my value, yeah,

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you know is this number?

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And Lisa Kudro you know, well, can I tell you

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one more thing that I absolutely love about her performance?

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I think it's probably the next thing on my list,

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but go ahead, okay.

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Well, it's the fact that she bases yes, I mean no, no, no, yeah, she.

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Bases her voice the patterns of her speech on Clint Eastwood.

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And that's awesome when you when you go back and

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watch this, yes, you know, And now I can't wait

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to see it a second time.

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Just it's like, now I want to hear it more.

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Tom Hanks tells a great story about Clint's directing because

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from the days on Rawhide, you don't shout action because

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it spooks the horses. So Clint stands like right next

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to you and he says, go and then you're seen,

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and then he goes, that's enough for that ship.

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Set up, and he only does like two takes. And

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I love that story.

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But yeah, and she also said, you know, we talked

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about Mike Nichols quite a bit. She said that her

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delivery of those cutting remarks is based on Mike Nichols,

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where he could like say something terrible to your face,

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but he's so funny when he says it that like

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you end up laughing along with everybody else.

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Goodness.

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Well, she should have gotten a lot of experience with

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that because he directed her in Heartburn. Of course, between

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him and Jack Nicholson, I'm sure she picked up on

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quite quite a few ways of expressing themselves.

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And then the last thing I had about Merrill was

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that she warmly greeted Anne Hathaway on the set and said, like,

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I'm so glad you're here.

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It's gonna be so much fun. You're gonna do such.

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A great job and that's the last nice thing I

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will ever say to you on this shoot, and it.

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Was she this is like the only time that she

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went me.

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Fid and she kept herself to herself and everybody else

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was like kind of kicking back, having fun, and she was.

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Just chilling on her trailer thinking villainous thoughts you peasants.

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Well, I mean that's nice of her too.

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I mean because Anne Hathaway, she's she's kind of she's

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brand new, not new, not brand new, but.

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She's made a big grown up movie like she's you know,

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Princess Diary.

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And was she because this was she like the one

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like was she the go to choice for this role

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Amber or was there a bunch of And it hurts.

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My heart because Anne Hathaway she bugs me And we

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could have had Rachel McAdams.

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She was the front runner.

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They really really really really wanted her, and she had other.

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Commitments and just was like, no, I'm not doing it.

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And I can totally see Rachel my guy.

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Her and Kate Hudson were up for it and they

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turn it down and they both said that they regretted it.

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Later. A couple of the ones I had.

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Would be good, Yeah, Natalie Portman, Scarlett Johansson and Kirsten Dunsapparent.

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Yeah, and I don't feel like I could believe that

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Natalie Portman or Scarlett Johansson was ever nervous a day

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in their life. Like, I just don't think that is

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the one thing about Anne Hathaway in this movie. This

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is one of her performances that I actually do like.

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And she as someone who is very insecure and has

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felt this nervousness on jobs many many times, like.

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She captures that so well.

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So Yeah, as much as I would have loved Rachel McAdams,

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I think Anna Hathway ended up doing a really good

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So let's talk about Emily Blunt. Emily Blunt and Stanley Tucci,

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in my opinion, are the MVPs.

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Of this movie.

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Oh yeah, absolutely, like one hundred percent.

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I'm loving I'm loving Nigel for all the quips and

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mean spirited banter that where he kind of blends cruelty

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and honesty.

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Yeah, the guys fantastic.

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I love that. Going a fishing line and we'll be

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in business.

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Yeah yeah, well even what's that?

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What's that right at the beginning where you know he's

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trying to help her with her, you know, with her wardrobe,

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and she's like, Marenna knows what I look like and

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he goes.

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Do you.

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I was like, this guy's this guy's awesome, you know.

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Yes, fabulous.

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There were one hundred actresses considered for the role of Emily,

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and Emily Blunt had been auditioning for the film Aragon,

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which she didn't get. She was absolutely miserable and she

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was leaving and the casting agent stopped her and filmed

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her audition for Devil or Spada in the parking lot.

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Now I love this story because as it goes, it's

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it's a good enough audition on tape.

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She goes back to England and then they call her

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back for what they call a proper.

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Audition because they wanted to see her more in step

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with the character of Emily and her original audition tape

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she's wearing a T shirt and jeans and flip flops,

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and they're just like, we don't really see it, like

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with the dress, could you throw a dress on?

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Yeah?

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Because Aragon tanked and it's not that great of a movie.

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So it's we got everything Emily.

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Now, I was very surprised to see Emily Blunt in

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this movie. Because I know Emily Blunt because she's Emily Blunt,

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but in this she's she's she's she's insufferable, but in

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a tolerable way, because that's that's the character you're You're

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supposed to feel like that about her. But yeah, she's

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She's thrown up every red flag that I I don't

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look for in a in a girl that I'm I

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would I would never date this Emily ever.

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I think she is.

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One of the most quotable characters. I jokingly, of course,

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quote her all the time, only in my house, but

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I love it when she she just snaps her fingers

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and points for Anne Hathaway to go into the office.

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Oh her facial and I love, love, love love.

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Rick Moranis does this thing in Ghostbusters where he has

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nothing to do in the scene, and he steals the

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whole scene because he just decided, I'm not going to

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just stand here and do nothing, and so.

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He's just acting the fool through.

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This whole thing.

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And Emily Blunt has decided she is going to be

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in the background of every.

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Damn scene in this movie, and she's just lurking everywhere.

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She's like that that manic energy that she has it's

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it's never not there, it's never absent. Even when the

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scene is focused on Andy and Miranda, she's there, She's

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just hanging out like and it's just like, yeah, I

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like that about that.

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That's something that you know.

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Merrill's like being Anne Hathaway verbally to Shreds and your

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focus is pulled to what's on only doing back there.

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Yeah.

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And then Nigel Nigel, Nigel Nigel, Stanley Tucci, Oh my god. Again,

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one hundred and fifty actors were considered.

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How how how how? Yeah? Who I feel in this process?

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How do you even think about anybody but Tucci for

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this role is I don't.

487
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.279
Know because the only other person that of a name

488
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:35.680
that I read what was considered was Graham Norton.

489
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:37.279
I'm like, yeah, I.

490
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:42.559
Read that he would just be so manic, Like I.

491
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:46.279
Don't think he could be mean spirited though, does he

492
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:46.799
would just.

493
00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:48.880
Be he would be like laughing while he did it.

494
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:50.480
Yeah, that wouldn't work.

495
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.920
So yeah, Stanley Chucci accepted the role three days before

496
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.079
shooting began, and I'm.

497
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:58.000
Like, and bless his heart that he did.

498
00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:03.799
Yes, And then I thought this was very very interesting

499
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.920
for the scene in which which we already kind of

500
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:10.880
mentioned where he tells Andy, you know, stop complaining, like

501
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:12.799
you're just whining about.

502
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:14.000
This job and it's ridiculous.

503
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:18.119
He was originally supposed to be more supportive, but someone

504
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.599
from the fashion industry who consulted on the script said,

505
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.519
no one in that world is nice to each other.

506
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.440
There's no reason to be, and they don't have time,

507
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:29.680
and that just blows me.

508
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.799
I think they're right, though, And I mean, you know,

509
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.680
whether it's New York and it's it's an industry job,

510
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.240
whether it's the you know, the paper or this this

511
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.920
magazine that I don't think anyone's going to be overly welcoming.

512
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:47.119
And you know, Patrick, I.

513
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.640
Mean, you've got a month to pull this together and

514
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:53.640
there's a lot of moving parts, and I mean, you

515
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:54.160
just got to.

516
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:57.359
Get into it. Neither of you read the novel.

517
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:02.960
It is really good. It's really thin. It's amazing how

518
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:05.440
they were able to flesh it out and make it

519
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:09.799
a much richer story for the film, which it usually

520
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.319
doesn't go that way. Usually the book is, you know,

521
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.759
much much better. But lauraen and Weissberger, the author. She

522
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:24.200
was Anna Wintour's junior assistant who an a win.

523
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:29.599
Tour is the Miranda is the editor in chief of

524
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:30.720
Vogue magazine.

525
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:33.000
I may just wear T shirts and jeans, but I

526
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:33.519
know who.

527
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:38.240
An okay, I get it, like this is this is

528
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.160
your this is your all's world.

529
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:41.039
I you know.

530
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:45.279
So she was the one where they couldn't.

531
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.279
They had to do a lot of things, not really

532
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.359
like sneakily, but they ran into a lot of dead

533
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.240
ends as far as help on this particular phone because

534
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.720
they didn't want it to seem as a slight to her.

535
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.359
Well, they didn't want to make her Yeah, are you.

536
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.279
Just basically you know, you hang yourself in regardless, like

537
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:05.720
no matter how even.

538
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.400
I think like the met Galla or the place that

539
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:09.920
they didn't want to hold on anything to.

540
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.440
Do with the film because they didn't want to potentially

541
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:13.440
upset her.

542
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:17.039
Hold on. You're okay, you said, she's the editor of Vogue.

543
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.039
He's the editor in chief of Vogue.

544
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.440
Veteran and she has that much.

545
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:26.000
American Yes, yeah, Like Valentino is the only designer that

546
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.839
appeared in the movie. Heidi Klum and Gazelle Bunchin were

547
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:32.720
the only models that appeared in the movie.

548
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:33.759
I did recognize them.

549
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:37.599
Gazelle said that she wanted to be in it, but

550
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:38.720
she didn't want to play a model.

551
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.640
So yeah, yeah, so she's sorry. She had a regular

552
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:42.640
people's job.

553
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:50.599
Which only in like the Vogue Runway world could a

554
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:54.200
woman that looks like Jaselle beunchin right office?

555
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:58.839
Why why aren't you writing, honey? Why aren't you gonna? Said?

556
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:00.440
No one ever to whole Bunch?

557
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.440
I sure didn't say that to nobody puts his ell

558
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:07.160
in a cubicle.

559
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:12.440
But so the novel was.

560
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.400
Bought by Fox before it was even finished.

561
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:19.200
The studio VP had only read the first one hundred

562
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.839
pages and thought that Miranda Priestley was the greatest villain

563
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:22.920
she'd ever read.

564
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:25.200
Good call aft.

565
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.440
She she's a fantastic villain. And you know in a

566
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:34.759
movie like this, where you typically have though, well, yeah,

567
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:39.200
but she's fantastic. I feel like what makes a great

568
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:46.000
villain is, well, you know, not just their their memorable dialogue,

569
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:50.359
it's it's their style. Like I I look at Miranda

570
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.519
as an amazing villain the same way I look at

571
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.400
Hans Gruber as an amazing villain. They're they're just they're stylish,

572
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:02.519
they're they're intelligent, and they're just watch arismatic. Oh so charismatic, Yeah,

573
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:03.680
a lot of fun to watch.

574
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.960
The film was nominated for two Oscars Best Actress for

575
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.119
Meryl Streep. Ironically, we talked about Helen Mirren. She won

576
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.319
that year for The Queen.

577
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.839
Oh Wow, Okay Fantasy Movie.

578
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.680
And then this one, I feel is a little unfair.

579
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.279
It was nominated for Best Costume Design for Patricia Field

580
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:29.119
and Marie Antoinette won, And it's like, I get it,

581
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.039
but at the same time, like, amazing costume design does

582
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.279
not have to be like elaborate set pieces.

583
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:36.440
It doesn't.

584
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.519
But if anything can be learned from the history of

585
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.240
the Academy, if you've got a period piece going into

586
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:48.519
the costume category, you're almost a shoeing to win unless

587
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.079
there's another period piece going up against you. So yeah,

588
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.079
I get, I totally get what you're saying. Yeah, you know,

589
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.519
but Marie Antoinette, those kind of that that that that

590
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.200
wig and the makeup and the gowns, like, yeah, I

591
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.519
don't I don't see it going up against uh Andy's

592
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.920
a frumpy Cyrillian blue sweater.

593
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:11.039
Well.

594
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:14.920
The thing that impresses me that that really makes me

595
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.559
feel like she did deserve uh some some award recognition

596
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:24.680
is the fact that we're now twenty years into this

597
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:29.079
movie and it's not dated. No, I'm not looking at

598
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:32.799
it going like the hell are they wearing? You know,

599
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.119
everything is classic.

600
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:36.160
It holds up.

601
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:44.160
Even Andy's you know, original wardrobe is just college student

602
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:45.319
one oh one.

603
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.200
So I think that's hard to do.

604
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:53.000
Yeah, it's definitely not dated. This me not knowing the movie.

605
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.440
You could have told me it came out last year,

606
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.359
and I would have aside from the cell phones that

607
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.920
they have, I would have I would have said, yeah,

608
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:02.759
of course, of course it's a brand new film.

609
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:07.119
Speaking of the fashion, despite multiple fashion designer loans, more

610
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:11.119
than one million dollars was spent on costuming, making it

611
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:15.480
the most expensively costumed film in hitary to that point. Wow,

612
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:22.160
a million dollars of the budget, and then the costumes

613
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:26.359
were sold off at auction to benefit breast cancer research.

614
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:30.359
All right, good, Okay, that's a good use of the

615
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.640
costuming post production.

616
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:33.319
I like that.

617
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:33.839
Yeah.

618
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:41.640
Interestingly, at the end of the novel, Andy goes home

619
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:44.400
and like she gets, she quits runway and she just

620
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.440
goes home back to live with her parents, and she

621
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:53.480
starts writing this book and she sells all of the

622
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.079
clothes that she got for Paris at like consignment stores,

623
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.319
to like fucking the writing of her book.

624
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:02.839
It's kind of a parallel.

625
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:03.519
There, I got.

626
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.880
I got something I would like to mention. Though I know,

627
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.039
I know we're we're about to move on Amber, but

628
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.400
we don't. I don't think we we We do enough

629
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:14.119
talking about screenwriters.

630
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.239
So I just wanted to mention this because I thought

631
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:17.679
this was fantastic.

632
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:21.719
Because ultimately it does take four screenwriters to adapt this

633
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.760
book to the film, and I want to talk about

634
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.400
who I feel is the pivotal screenwriter here. And that's

635
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.159
a line Broch McKenna, And apologies if I'm saying that wrong,

636
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.480
but she was actually a journalist who was trying to

637
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:37.760
make it in New York City.

638
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:40.079
Much like the Andy character.

639
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.239
She reshapes you know, she's she's screenwriter number four. At

640
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.599
this point, she reshapes the story to focus more on

641
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.400
the conflict between Miranda and and Andy, kind of you know,

642
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:56.280
makes it less about you know, relationship stuff. She tones

643
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.639
down the Miranda character's meanness at the request of the

644
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:03.880
produc and then reinserts it at the request of Meryl Streep.

645
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.480
So because you got Meryl's been on board the whole time.

646
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:10.920
She's seen the multiple drafts, and when interviewed in twenty sixteen,

647
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:12.880
I believe it was for Vogue.

648
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:15.440
She shared that she.

649
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.000
Found the experience of writing a story with female protagonists

650
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:24.760
that did not center around relationship very liberating, and I'm

651
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:27.000
quoting her, she says, I felt I was allowed to

652
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.880
do what the movie wanted to be a FoST.

653
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.360
Story, a Wall Street for ladies.

654
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:36.480
And when I think of when I think yeah, when

655
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:38.920
I think of Wall Street and the power dynamic between

656
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.159
Gecko and Buds, she's one hundred percent on right here.

657
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:48.920
So shout out to miss McKenna. Just fantastic writing on

658
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:49.280
this one.

659
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:51.880
God is awesome.

660
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:52.880
I love it.

661
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:55.079
All Right, we're going to take.

662
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:56.840
Another quick break and when we come back, we're going

663
00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:02.800
to talk about our favorite scenes. All Right, we are

664
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:07.000
back with our discussion of the Devil Wars praduct and

665
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.079
instead of the pivotal scene, it could be the pivotal scene,

666
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:17.679
but you can choose a scene for its cinematography, the performance,

667
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.199
the direction. It is it the one scene in the

668
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:22.880
whole movie that didn't piss me off.

669
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:28.159
Yeah, Cate, I mean not in this.

670
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.000
Movie, although there are scenes that puts me off.

671
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.039
That was kind of the direction I was going with

672
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:34.679
with mine.

673
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:39.320
I mean, we could go there. I have several of

674
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:40.119
that where I'm.

675
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.719
Like, it's like, man, maybe I'm taking this a little

676
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:43.679
bit too personally, But.

677
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:49.719
Angela, what scene stands out for you?

678
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:56.800
Well, if we want to go with the one that

679
00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:00.519
I felt, uh, I mean, even though it kind of

680
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.519
towards the end it was a little bit more of

681
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:07.280
a wake up call to Andy because Andy was a

682
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.360
situation one way as to where she thought she was

683
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:12.880
trying to do the right thing and thinking that she

684
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.119
had to protect Miranda, or maybe not so much protect,

685
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:21.559
but notify her of a behind the scenes situation underestimating

686
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:27.480
Miranda's ability like one. But after that the exchange in

687
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:31.480
the limousine, Miranda has basically betrayed Nigel.

688
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:39.079
You thought I didn't know. I've known what was happening

689
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:44.159
for quite some time. It just took me a little

690
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.239
while to find a suitable alternative for Jacquelin.

691
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:49.960
On that James whole job was just.

692
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:53.760
So absurdly obeyed that of course she jumped at it.

693
00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:58.840
So I just had to tell her that Jacqueline was unavailable.

694
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:03.079
Truth is, there is no one that can do what

695
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:05.079
I do, including her.

696
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.360
Any of the other choices who would have.

697
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.960
Found that job impossible, and the magazine would have suffered,

698
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:23.280
especially because of the list, the list of designers, photographers, editors, writers, models,

699
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:25.519
all of whom were found by me, nurtured by me,

700
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:29.440
and have promised me they will follow me whenever and

701
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:31.559
if ever I choose to leave one way.

702
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:42.880
So he reconsidered. But I was very, very impressed by

703
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.000
how intently you tried to warn me.

704
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.719
I never thought I would say this country, but I

705
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:54.000
really I see a great deal of myself and you.

706
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.280
You can see beyond what people want and.

707
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:01.360
What they need, and you can choose for yourself. I

708
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.400
don't think I like that. I couldn't do what you

709
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.800
did to Nigel Miranda. I couldn't do something like that.

710
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:12.800
Miranda's just dropping these real life you know, truth bombs

711
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.039
and things like that, all you know, all around her,

712
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:20.440
and and and shattering whatever little illusion she had left.

713
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.840
I think of people taking care of each other, even

714
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.039
after they I think in the Da da da so

715
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.800
I so that really kind of openizes, like's like, why

716
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:31.480
what am I doing here? And that gets out of

717
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:35.079
a limousine, throws that old cell phone into the fountain

718
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:40.840
is just like Deuces, you know. So I liked that

719
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:44.840
scene because Miranda has never pretended to be anything other

720
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:45.719
than what she is.

721
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:47.519
All Right, Jef, how about you?

722
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:48.880
What scene stood out for you.

723
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:53.760
I'm choosing a scene based on a strong performance, and

724
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:56.280
I'm gonna take the long way around to get to.

725
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:59.280
It because it's it's a lot about a different character.

726
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.559
But I want to talk about the moment that Andy

727
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.280
transforms into a fashion powerhouse.

728
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:11.639
And you could not have asked for a better song

729
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:13.679
than Madonna's.

730
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:14.519
Vogue in this moment.

731
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:21.039
But specifically, I'm loving the scene for Meryl Streep and

732
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:26.400
what I'm getting at here that first time that Andrea

733
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:34.000
walks in Meryl Streep's character, Miranda says nothing but her

734
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:40.079
look conveys surprise, curiosity, and most of all, approval. And

735
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:41.920
she's doing that with one.

736
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:48.880
Two second stare gazed at at Anne Hathaway's character, and.

737
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:52.760
It's it's absolutely brilliant, great moment for both characters, but

738
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:53.880
it's Meryl's moment.

739
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.360
Even though Anne Hathaway looks dynamite. You know, she's got

740
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.920
the new haircut and she's got the tour.

741
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:04.119
You know, she's looking looking amazing, but it's all it's

742
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:04.440
all MARYL.

743
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.519
Street in that moment. Love that moment, love it.

744
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:11.400
I agree completely a scene I do.

745
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:15.960
I'm gonna go completely obvious because this is the one

746
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:16.559
scene that.

747
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:19.760
Like, everybody shut up, nobody can talk.

748
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.239
We have to watch the whole thing start to finish

749
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:28.199
from the moment Miranda says why is nobody ready.

750
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.679
Through the entire cerulean speech.

751
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.039
The way that she moves.

752
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:40.000
Through picking the dress and putting the belt on and

753
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:42.920
the jacket and the hat, and she puts this whole

754
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:47.519
outfit together while she is just verbally decimating Anne Hathaway,

755
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:52.880
never raising her voice, never saying anything. I mean, she

756
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:56.360
says a lot nastier things than other scenes, you know,

757
00:41:56.679 --> 00:42:02.239
hire the smart fat girl, she doesn't go there in this.

758
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:08.559
She just completely explains why you are a child who

759
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.599
has just stepped one toe out of college and you

760
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:14.880
don't know anything. And I'm going to tell you exactly

761
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:19.920
how this industry works. And I just adore it so

762
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.960
much every time I watch it. Just it's all over

763
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:27.679
social media like everybody loves to use it, but it's

764
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:31.039
because it is just that good. And it's another example

765
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.320
also of Emily just hovering in the background.

766
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.880
And Hathaway looks back at her. She just rolls her eyes,

767
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:39.159
like Jesus.

768
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:43.199
I think this is monologues. I think this is one

769
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:44.519
of the greatest monologues ever.

770
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:46.960
It's so good, it's captivating.

771
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:50.719
And I'll go ahead and tip my hand right now.

772
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.679
I'm team Miranda from this moment all the way through

773
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:59.559
the end. And you know, because I'm not on team

774
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.000
Andrea Andre Andrea.

775
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.360
Not a fan of the character in this movie.

776
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.119
No, Like I'm pissed at her from the moment she

777
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:11.760
shows up. Who dresses like that for a job interview?

778
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.280
My god, I understand you're poor, you're a child, you

779
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.760
just graduated college. I just wear all black. We all

780
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.519
know this, Like who dresses like that?

781
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:25.360
Off for a different reason.

782
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:31.079
But well, really quick, this is not like on our outline,

783
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.960
but I did want to throw at you. We have

784
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:40.000
three great musical breaks in this film. In the opening number,

785
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:47.559
Suddenly I See and then Jefferardy mentioned the Vogue fashion montage,

786
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:49.519
and then when they get to Paris, we have city

787
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:53.400
of blinding lights as they are going to all of

788
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:57.039
the fashion shows, which one is your favorite? Jeff I

789
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.639
have my money, I know exactly which one is your favorite?

790
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.840
Well, but I mean I think all three of them

791
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:06.440
in form on the movie that you know, it helps

792
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:10.239
build the sets, the setting of the of the film,

793
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.440
and uh, they're all three great choices. But yeah, it's

794
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.239
it's Vogue.

795
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:17.119
That is not the one.

796
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:20.880
It has to be for me, it has to be Vogue. Sorry.

797
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.400
I figured suddenly I see we have all the models

798
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:25.880
in their underwear, and you'd be like.

799
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:28.960
That is the scene that really sets the stage for me.

800
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:36.079
I'm watching it's well, it's that's that's that's uh, visually enjoyable.

801
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:39.039
It's just not I'm not I'm not hearing anything. You

802
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:42.079
could have played the Beatles White album. I wouldn't have

803
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.480
paid attention. I'm focused somewhere else.

804
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:50.559
But you know, excellent boy, Angela, how about you? The

805
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:52.960
one that Vogue scene is really good.

806
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.880
I'm personally gonna go with the fourth option, which is

807
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.360
I love Alanis' version of crazy. So after she has

808
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:02.440
like the hole makeover and she's walking through with this

809
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.480
new fashions and I don't know, I just I one.

810
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.920
I I love Alanis and to me, my whole life,

811
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:11.400
like she's just.

812
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:14.039
A beacon of like you know, Liberation New you know, yes,

813
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:19.280
absolutely so, and you know, even though it's a cover,

814
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:20.760
but it's so you know, hey, we're never going to

815
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:22.840
survive and unless we get a little crazy.

816
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:26.239
So she's out of her comfort zone, but she's you know,

817
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.679
finding her way in that, and I just I just

818
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.840
love that that that little rock version and Alani's voice

819
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:37.719
over that while she's coming out of her post college

820
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:41.639
crazy cocoon and into and and putting on her big

821
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:42.800
girl shoes on.

822
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:44.679
Oh, good choice.

823
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.440
I didn't even think about that one. I'm gonna have

824
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.719
to agree with Jeff though. I love the Vogue montage,

825
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:54.920
like I love the transitions where they go behind cars

826
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:58.760
and you know, bus stops and stuff. I just the

827
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.199
way that is shot is just amazing. And then every

828
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.119
outfit she wears is fabulous. So it's a it's a

829
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:08.440
good time, all right. Let's talk about the numbers. The

830
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:13.840
initial budget of this film was only thirty five million dollars.

831
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.760
And that's before the one hundred million for the wardrobe.

832
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.800
It was only one million for the word okay and

833
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:23.880
then Merrill double Marrel's her asking price.

834
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.639
But it grossed one hundred and twenty five million.

835
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.880
It was released on July fourth weekend and was beaten

836
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:33.800
only by Superman Returns.

837
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:35.000
But the Big Blue Boy Scout.

838
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:39.679
But Double Wars product beat it internationally, not totally world

839
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:41.440
but it did beat it internationally.

840
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:43.920
Yeah, because by then they were like, oh, this is

841
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.760
a turkey right, Yeah.

842
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:47.920
I recovering that one later.

843
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:53.559
Oh, we'll see, we'll talk about it. Yeah, and it's

844
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.480
still you know, I mean, the proof holds up. It's

845
00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:59.599
got a seventy five percent fresh score on Rotten Tomatoes,

846
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:03.079
which I mean that is really you don't get that

847
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:06.440
very often at all. All Right, we're gonna take one

848
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:12.320
last break and then we'll be back to wrap things up. Okay,

849
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:18.599
so we usually pick an underrated classic by our director.

850
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:21.760
But a director hasn't done a whole lot of things,

851
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:24.000
so this might be a little bit of a challenge.

852
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:29.159
But written by, directed by, or starring, which project would

853
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.079
you suggest by David Frankel?

854
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:32.880
I actually got one here.

855
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:36.920
I have one that I was pleasantly surprised by.

856
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:40.239
So well, I mean, yeah, I wonder if we have

857
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:41.960
the same one because I was like, oh, he did

858
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:46.039
that film, and again like we're you know, obviously the

859
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:48.840
Devil Is brought a huge movie. So now we're trying

860
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:52.079
to find something underrated for this director to recommend. I

861
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.039
don't know if you guys have seen this one. It's

862
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:57.320
a from nineteen ninety five called Miami Rhapsody.

863
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.280
I saw it like in nineteen nine. I haven't seen it.

864
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.800
That's another one with like Sarah Jessica Parker.

865
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.119
Yeah, it's been so long.

866
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:13.239
I yeah, yeah, I got to point that one out and.

867
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.920
I won't spoil it, but but it's fun.

868
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:17.719
I mean, Kevin Pollack is just fun to watch in

869
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.199
that one. And it only made it only made like, yeah,

870
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.960
he's great. Now, it only made ten million worldwide.

871
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.760
But if you, uh, if.

872
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:28.760
You need a reason, if you're if you're a centophile,

873
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.400
uh just remember Roger Ebert gave it three out of

874
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:35.320
four stars, so you know, check it out again. This

875
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:39.199
guy's you know, he's.

876
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:39.679
Only done a handful of things.

877
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:43.760
So it's been forever since. I can't remember anything about it.

878
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.320
Was it like a like, what kind of genre would

879
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:46.880
you pop that in?

880
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:47.639
It's comedy.

881
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.320
It's a comedy. Yeah, I remember liking it. That that's

882
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.119
I don't remember anything else about it.

883
00:48:53.719 --> 00:49:00.960
Is that member mine is Another Hero of YouTube has

884
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.039
uploaded this with the Original Commercials, which is an eight

885
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:10.400
and a half. So from two thousand and two he

886
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.159
directed a film called The Pennsylvania Miners Story and it's

887
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:17.480
a made for TV movie, so you know, you got

888
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:20.239
manage your expectations.

889
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.519
But you know, we talked a lot here.

890
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:28.199
On a film by about unions and union workers, and

891
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.639
I think my record and support of these men and

892
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:35.599
women speaks for itself. So this movie, it has a

893
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:38.840
really good cast, and it tells the true story of

894
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:41.639
the group of miners that were trapped for seventy seven

895
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:46.360
days in the coal mine when they hit a water feed,

896
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:51.239
and it was filmed on location in the actual mine,

897
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:56.880
and it just you know, those are stories that everybody

898
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:59.639
needs to watch because these are the people that you know,

899
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:05.119
keep the lights on, definitely, and it's very heroic. It's

900
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:09.400
really you know, it's a spectacular you know, mame for

901
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:10.559
TV movie.

902
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:10.960
All right.

903
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:14.719
Anyone notable? What anyone notable in it?

904
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:19.920
The one that sticks out in my head is William Mappather.

905
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:23.039
Okay, uh, you.

906
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:26.559
Know he was in Lost and yeah he's been lost.

907
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:32.079
He's been a ton of things, but yeah, I mean,

908
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:34.320
you know, it's it's been a while, so I think

909
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:36.679
and I was doing other things while I was watching it,

910
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.440
but so I think some of the people are are notable,

911
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:42.559
but Angela, how about you.

912
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:46.119
Well, it's gonna be hard following a nice, heart wrenching

913
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:49.800
documentary type of thing. But this one I actually had watched,

914
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:50.159
like just.

915
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:51.960
On an off chance. I didn't know who the director

916
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:52.400
was anything.

917
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.800
But it actually also stars Mell Street because I was like, oh,

918
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:56.840
I like Meryl, I like Toami Lee Jones, I like

919
00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:01.599
Steve carl It's called Hope Springs, and it was it

920
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.599
was heart film, it was, but it was also you know, funny,

921
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.039
and it was like a nice uh. Meryl Streep and

922
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:09.199
Tommily Jones plays a couple that's been married for like,

923
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:11.239
you know, thirty years and now they're just trying. They're

924
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:13.480
seeking outside help of like okay.

925
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.039
We'll kind of like gets out of the house and

926
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:15.559
stuff like that.

927
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.679
So it was just kind of interesting on watching something

928
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:23.440
from that part of the relationship, you know, whether you know,

929
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.679
rather than like you know, the beginning and all the oh,

930
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:30.480
you know kind of stuff. But these people have had

931
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.800
several decades together, had a life, kids, things like that,

932
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:35.679
and now they're just kind of, now, what do we do.

933
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:37.400
Yeah, what are we doing when we do?

934
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:37.599
So?

935
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.760
I you know, I thought it was a fairly so

936
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:40.719
we film it. It just happened.

937
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:42.360
I'm like, oh, I have watched that one, so that's

938
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:43.920
why I just picked that one.

939
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:48.280
I find it amazing that this guy, with such a

940
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:53.679
limited amount of work available, each one of us comes

941
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:55.800
up with a separate choice.

942
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:57.760
Yes, that's fantastic.

943
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.519
So yeah, you know, obviously we got we had some

944
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:02.199
some Frankel homework to find.

945
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:04.719
Yeah, we were able to find a little couple of

946
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:05.280
little nuts.

947
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.840
Absolutely, Well, how about the Devil Worst Product? Do we

948
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:11.960
recommend watching this film?

949
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:13.000
Absolutely?

950
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:14.880
I mean I think it's great.

951
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:19.480
It's streaming on on Disney Plus and that's that's where

952
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:24.199
I saw it. I absolutely recommend this so that you know, guys,

953
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:27.000
I'm telling you right now check this out.

954
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.719
You know, it is not your your standard rom com

955
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:31.719
or chick flick. It is.

956
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:34.840
It's Wall Street for ladies. That's that's how I'm looking

957
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.559
at it, and it's it's awesome. I can't say the

958
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:42.719
same about the trailer that I just watched for the sequel.

959
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:46.840
I haven't even watch Yeah, I haven't even watched a

960
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:47.320
trailer too.

961
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:52.320
I'm very apprehensive. I'm getting like a whole Ocean's twelve

962
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:53.320
vibe going.

963
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:57.119
Yeah, I saw that Kenneth Brogne is joining this part

964
00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:58.760
of the cast, so I'm wondering, you know, is he

965
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:00.559
going to be like A.

966
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:04.639
And he's nowhere in the trailer. I'm like, what's sad about?

967
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:07.119
But I love Kenneth Brenna, So.

968
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.159
I'm hoping that I'm hoping that it's more of like

969
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:13.960
I'm hoping it's more of like an announcement trailer or

970
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.000
a teaser if it as it were, like just let's

971
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.280
just show you that we're getting the band back together

972
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:22.960
and we're not going to focus on the brilliance of

973
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:23.480
the movie.

974
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:25.760
I want to be wrong, but I'm like.

975
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:29.239
Because you barely get any story, you barely get like

976
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:31.599
why is she back at Runway and what's going on?

977
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:34.679
And maybe that might be better because I mean, it's so

978
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.760
hard with sequels anyway, that, especially when you have something

979
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you know that's so good that it is just fine

980
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.360
to be a standalone like we we we don't need

981
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a continuation, But if you're going to, it's already going

982
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to be scrutinized and compared enough as the expectations are

983
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so high, So this one is so good.

984
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Yeah, it's it's coming up. Can can a Film By

985
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send you guys on assignment? Can we can we send

986
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you to like go check it out and let us know.

987
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Yes, Well, next time on a film Buy, it's gonna

988
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be a whole different kill fish because we're gonna be

989
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talking about Mulan Rouge and Angela and I I already know,

990
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:15.440
are going to have a conversation.

991
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:19.360
Yeah, can I can I join in on Mulan Rouge too,

992
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cause I I happen to.

993
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:23.000
I mean, I think we're gonna need a referee.

994
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Okay, yeah maybe Okay, she's like in the gloves and

995
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:29.519
the shanks and I'm over here, like, man, I just

996
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:35.039
but I just like.

997
00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:36.760
Yeah, let's talk about set, all right.

998
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:40.360
All right, but it'll it'll still be a good. It'll

999
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be a good. It's all right, It's all right.

1000
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If you have seen it, how would you summarize it

1001
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:52.679
in five words or less? Go to www a film

1002
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.800
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1003
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email us at a film by Podcast at gmail dot com.

1004
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If we use your five word synopsis.

1005
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On the show, we'll give you a shout out on

1006
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:09.159
the episode and you'll get some film by Swack and

1007
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please join us on social media. You can find us

1008
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on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. We love interacting with you,

1009
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1010
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1011
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:26.440
I gotta say that the comments on YouTube like people

1012
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:29.039
are dropping comments on stuff, and it's been a blast.

1013
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:34.159
I've been loving talking with people. Yeah, listeners, keep that up.

1014
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We love we love talking to you on YouTube.

1015
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1016
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:42.119
Yeah, all right, thank you guys for kicking off for

1017
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Women's History Month with a bag.

1018
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.400
Yeah, Jeff, thank you for your support.

1019
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:53.159
Always love love the Ladies. I love your film by Ladies.

1020
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That's it's it's great, It's it's all jokes aside. Also

1021
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in this society, you know, the show would not be

1022
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:02.960
what it is without you two. I'm loving the fact

1023
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that you both are a part of this team. So

1024
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looking forward to what you guys do the rest of

1025
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this month.

1026
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It'll be awesome.

1027
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And to all of you listening to the show, following

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us on social media, and subscribing to our Patreon, we

1029
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thank you.