Best of the Bond Girls

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Hello, everybody, Welcome back to
another episode of the show. I can't

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tell you exactly which one it is
because this is actually dropping on multiple podcasts

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at once. Don't worry, you
are listening to the right show, whichever

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one you're trying to get. I
am not your regular host, but I

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have a feeling your host is probably
standing very close by. My name is

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David Wright. I'm also known as
Deaf Dave, and there's a chance that

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you've at least heard of me if
you're a regular follower of this show.

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We have a very special episode today. I've been asked to moderate a fantasy

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draft for Bond Girls, and so
I have with me hosts from a film

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by podcast the Surely you Can't Be
Serious podcasts on Her Majesty's Secret podcast.

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I think I got that right,
as well as the thirtysomething podcast. So

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I feel a little bit like more
successful than Blow failed at taking over the

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world. I'm a guy with no
podcast on my own, yet I have

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simultaneously hijacked four of them all at
once, and I'm feeling pretty powerful.

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So anyway, this is going to
be a fantasy draft of Bond Girls,

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and we'll have five rounds of these
picks and then we'll leave it up to

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the audience to decide the winner.
So let's get straight to introductions. First

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up, we have the host of
a Film by Podcast, Jeff Johnson.

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Jeff, tell us about you,
about your show and your Bond credentials.

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Hello, Dave, thank you for
joining us and doing this for us.

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My name's Jeff Johnson. I'm one
of the co hosts for a Film by

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Podcast. Basically, what we do
is we take our favorite directors. We

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take Hollywoods biggest directors, and we
like to focus in on their underrated hits.

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You know, not necessarily things that
you might have heard or might not

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have done well but the box office, but things that we feel you should

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definitely check out. And then we
also have a couple of limited series.

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You know, we've done the nineteen
eighty six series, which you know,

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Jason has been a part of,
which you've been a part of. We're

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currently working on a one called a
Film at forty five or a couple episodes

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deep into that. We're celebrating the
forty fifth anniversary of movies that we're in

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nineteen seventy eight, so doing some
fun stuff with that. As far as

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Bond goes in my connection. I
still remember the day that my dad told

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me not to go outside to play
because he wanted me to watch a movie.

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I sit down in front of the
TV and I'm immediately just unhappy because

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I see this is some old movie. What do I care? And then

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all of a sudden, I see
this girl completely covered in gold and I

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was like, wait, what is
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hooked. Goldfinger was my first experience. My dad introduced me to James Bond

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later that year. We went to
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a Kill in nineteen eighty five.
Again, I was a little confused when

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I saw Roger Moore's face. I
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No, it is James Bond.
Just you know, it's a new

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but happy to say my dad has
taken me to see every James Bond film

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since of You to a Kill.
And the fun thing for me is at

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this point now as an adult,
I'm taking him to go see him.

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So we haven't missed one and I
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anytime soon. It's pretty awesome.
So Jason Colvin tell us a little bit

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about your show and your bondage experiment, I mean bond experience. Well,

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my name's Jason Colvin and I co
host the Shirley Can't Be Serious Podcast with

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my good buddy James D. Graves, and we are a podcast for the

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MTV generation. And what we do
is we take two movies or albums or

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TV shows or you know, books, whatever, and we match them up

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against them themselves. And so we've
done some pretty fun ones. Jeff with

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you, We've done Jobs the Revenge
versus Superman four and that was kind of

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a fun one. Dave with you, we did License to Ill by the

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Beastie Boys versus Raisin Hell Run DMC. What we've got coming down the pipe.

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We've got Raisin theres Zona versus The
Big Lebowski. We're working on Summer

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of nineteen eighty eight, so we're
doing Twins versus Big. We've got Long

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Cold Winner by Cinderella versus Zhu eight
one two Van Halen, and we like

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to match those up and we go
deep. We try to ferret out the

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stuff that other people don't find,
and so some more trivial type of things

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or me my first bond experience happened
in the summer of nineteen eighty one,

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and I contend that two weeks of
June in nineteen eighty one were the best

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two weeks in eighties movie history.
So you know, you've got Stripes,

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You've got Great Buppet Caper, You've
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Raiders are Lost Dark, You've got
Dragon Slayer, You've got all these great

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movies released all in the same two
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yeah, actually I've got a tidbit
on Clash the Titans here in a minute,

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because we'll be talking about probably Ursula
Andrews at some point. Once I

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had seen Raiders of Lost Dark with
my best friend at the time. He's

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like, man, we've got to
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the new James Bond movie. And
I had never heard of James Bond.

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I'm like, what are you talking
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you like Raiders of the Lost Dark, you'll like For Your Eyes Onlie.

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And so we went to the movie
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the greatest summer I've ever had because
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James Bond and It was just awesome, and so that was my first experience

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awesome. Van, tell us about
you, and at least tell us about

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your James Bond podcasts and your Bond, your relationship to Bond in the franchise.

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I am Van Allen Plexico. I
run the White Rocket Entertainment Network,

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which has a number of different podcasts
channels, but the one relevant here is

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on Her Majesty's Secret Podcast. When
I came up with that name several years

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ago, I said, well,
now I've got to have a show because

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that's too good of a name not
to actually use. And so Alan J.

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Porter, the author of many books
on James Bond, he and I

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do a occasional review. We're working
our second way through the movies now.

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The first time we just kind of
did long reviews of them, discussing every

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aspect, every scene, every moment. This time we're doing kind of like

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categories, rating the girls, the
gadgets, the villains and all that as

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we go through. So that's what
we've been doing lately. But there are

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other folks on that show, including
Raymond Benson authors. He comes on occasionally.

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We talk about Bond music, the
scores and everything. So we have

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a lot of fun on on that
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dot com. As far as me, I think my first exposure to Bond

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was in the early seventies on like
the ABC Sunday Night Movie when they would

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show either they kept switching back.
Say I never had the Who's Bond thing,

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because they would one week they would
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next week they would show Living Let
Die, and they'd switched back and forth.

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So I was getting Sean Connery and
Roger Moore kind of in equal doses,

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and so I thought of them both
as Bond. And then I saw

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I have a love hate relationship though
in the mid seventies because we were in

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Florida on a vacation and there was
Star Wars was out and I was dying

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to see Star Wars, and we
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So I've always hated The Spy Who
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it's a good Bond film, I
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Star Wars for like four months.
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I really do like the idea of
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exactly. He's kind of his own
guy. He's a really interesting character and

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charismatic and exciting, and he's held
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now. So yeah, if not
more, yeah, so very good.

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And the last participant in our draft
today is Pat Cantagallo from the thirty something

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podcast. Pat, tell us about
your show, what you got going on

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and any relationship to Bond. Okay, so thirty something movie podcast, it's

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actually the show. The guy that
ran the show starts the show is my

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friend John Ree, and he got
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teachers. We would all sit when
we'd have break time or blunch or whatever,

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we'd sit down and just talk about
movies, all right, our friends

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Jeff, Dennis Bow, myself,
and then we would just sit and talk

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movies. There were sometimes we'd we'd
be sitting there and have entire conversations just

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using movie quotes. And sometimes that
would just completely weird the other teachers,

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Like sometimes students wouldn't know where the
you know, the smart students would always

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you know, pick up on what
we were saying. And so finally John's

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like, you know, what I've
always wanted to do a podcast. Let's

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put this all together and let's just
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so the way our show works is
that we review movies that are coming up

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on their thirtieth anniversary. So right
now, each year we do one movie

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a week from thirty years ago.
So right now we're working through nineteen ninety

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three, and we just got done
with the film. It's Quin Tarantino wrote

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the script, Christian Slater starting it. It's called True Romance, And like,

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it's been great because you know,
I had never seen that movie before,

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and so like I was blown away
with this and it's it's awesome going

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back and how did I miss this
movie? And then all of a sudden,

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like the next week we could be
doing, for example, Jurassic Park.

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Okay, I've seen this movie.
Is that really already thirty years old?

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Like where did that come from?
And getting together and realizing, wow,

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I've had all these feelings about this
movie that's thirty years old. So

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does everybody else, you know.
So it's it's it's been a pretty cool,

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pretty cool experienced in the podcast.
As far as when Bond started,

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I started watching Bond with my grandparents
and my dad, those Sunday Night movies

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that you talk about. My grandmother
was a huge James Bond fan, a

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huge Sean Connery fan. So yeah, I would grow up and, like

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you were saying, kind of got
the Sean Connery and Roger Moore and equal

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doses. And that's kind of where
it all where it all started, you

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know, I was raised. My
grandma made sure that I understood that,

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you know, Sean Connery was the
best Bond, but there were some other

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Bonds. And then it just kind
of followed through the rest of my life

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every level, you know, all
the way up through college, and there

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was always a group of people that
were Bond fans. So I got to

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kind of like grow up with the
series. Well, very good, if

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I could. I'll just share a
little bit of my relationship with the Bond

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franchise because it sounds very similar to
Jeff's. My dad graduated high school in

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nineteen sixty three, which I think
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in the United States, and so
he was kind of the Bond generation through

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all that super spy craze in the
sixties, and that was something that he

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and I shared. You know,
he took me to my first Bond movie

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View to a Kill. When I
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must have been, and so that
one was my first experience with James Bond,

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and I had a good time with
my dad. So I don't hate

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that movie as much as most people
seem to. But that became a tradition.

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It's something my dad and I bonded
over. We saw every James Bond

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movie that came out. That continued
into my adulthood, and after I'd moved

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away there was a new Bond movie, I'd make the trip down to my

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hometown. We'd go see it together, and so that's always that's always been

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kind of special to me. He
passed away after Casino Royale. That was

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the last one that I saw with
him, and I have not haven't really

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been particularly in the mood to see
a new release since then. I haven't.

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I don't know if if I will, to be honest, but I

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remained a casual Bond fan and I
will still watch all the old ones occasionally.

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I'll go on a binge every once
in a while. So I'm not

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a huge Bond fan. So when
this topic came up, I didn't feel

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like I knew enough to be able
to Heaven to conduct my own intelligent enough

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of a draft. So but I'm
a casual fan. I'm not a hater

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of it for sure. So I'm
excited to be able to help you all

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out with this today. And I
think we're getting ready to get started.

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We'll start drafting. We're gonna just
go through fantasy football style snake draft.

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We're gonna do go snake style,
but in each round we'll start with a

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different person, so I'll just keep
as straight. We don't have to worry

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about it too much. So before
we get started on drafting our Bond girls,

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I asked everyone to submit to me
their own idea for a Bond Girl

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name, their own original Bond Girl
name, and that I would use the

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quality of their puns to determine the
draft order. And these guys do not

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know what I've decided. They don't
even know what everybody else has even come

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up with. So here we go. I'm gonna start. So they're all

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great, They're all solid, all
right, They're all absolutely usable. I

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could see them in a Bond movie. But I have to rank them,

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so I'm gonna go at number four. Is going to be van was the

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word so so what I try.
I judge these based on like how much

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does this fit the convention of what
the Bond movies do? Okay, So

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Van's entry was Gloria Climax. So
that's good. Yeah, not not you

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know, not unfathomable that it might
be used. Okay, but uh but

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um well, the only one I
could think of that didn't it wasn't already

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a porn star. Yeah. They're
all kind of used up right. Uh

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So the third one is gonna be
Pat. Pat had a great sounding Bond

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name. It Fanny good Bottom.
I uh. At first I was going

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to deduct points for the use of
Fanny, thinking it was a little bit

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of an old, old fashioned name. Then I remember that James Bond goes

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back the movies go back to nineteen
sixty two, So I think you,

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uh, I think you get away
with Fanny good Bottom. So I get

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find a tech Okay, so it's
a quality name, but we got some

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we got some tough entries ahead of
you. So number two is actually my

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favorite one. So number two is
gonna be Jeff Johnson. So Jeff came

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up with a fantastic name. It
is Nicata spits. Now. The reason

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why that is so good is well, those of us that speak Croatian already

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know how good of a name that
is. But if you need Nicata translated

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into English, it is never Oh
yes they okay, okay, so top

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shelf pun quality. But also I
don't think the Bond movies make your work

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that hard for the punch line,
so I put him in second place.

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And Jason Colvin I think absolutely nails
the spirit of the movies with Ophelia Melon's

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nicely. To start off, the
draft order will be Jason, Jeff,

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Pat and Van and we'll go from
there. My goal today was not to

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get in trouble with my wife or
anybody at my church. I think I'm

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over too already. So yeah,
all right, very good. Well,

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guys, I think we're ready to
get started on drafting our Bond girls.

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So Jason Colvin, you are on
the clock. Yes, okay, Well,

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this is the first pick out of
the gate. Thank you very much,

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Dave. I know who I'm gonna
take, and I'll tell you right

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off the bat. This is the
girl who impacted me the most emotionally when

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I watched this movie. Okay,
so she actually dies in the movie.

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This, of course is Vesper Landa. I'm going Vesper right out of the

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gate from Casino Royale. She was
she was playing Bond, but she actually

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fell in love with him, and
then her death scene was just incredibly moving.

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And I love Casino Royale. So
I'm taking Vesper right out of the

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gate. That would have probably been
my first pick. Jason, Hey,

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can I just say that the thing
I was thinking about strategy wise here is

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something I learned from fantasy football.
You don't necessarily take the one you want

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the most or you like the most. You take the one that's going to

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be the hardest to get later.
That's true. And if you hadn't taken

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her, I would have eventually.
So yeah, that was a very good

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move. I think, thank you, thank you, all right, very

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good. No other thoughts on that. We'll move on ahead. Jeff,

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you're up, Well, I'll tell
you like Van, Vesper definitely would have

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been my choice. So I've got
my ranking system that I came up with,

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So I'm gonna go to my number
two overall pick, which happens to

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be the very first Bond girl for
me. Talking about Honor Blackman in nineteen

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sixty four, is Goldfinger playing pussy
Galore. I must be dreaming. That's

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a good one. I mean,
most people know her name. She's got

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that great bond name. Yeah,
you know, she was thirty nine at

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the time of filming Goldfinger. She
was the only Bond girl older than the

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bond actor until Monica Bellucci inspector.
Wow. Yeah, I thought I thought

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Monica had the record, but I
didn't know. I didn't know Honor was

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that close. So older than Sean
Connery, yeah, wow, And she

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was a I mean she was such
a great character, like an actual strong

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part of that movie. And I
mean, like, you know, she's

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a pilot too, which like immediately
makes higher street creds. So yeah,

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very cool character. She's a lesbian
and Sean Connery's bond is able to bring

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her over to the side, so
that right there. You couldn't do that

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today, but whatever. Yeah.
I love the fact that you know,

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she she's film fatale, you know, classic film fatale, because you know

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she she goes toe to toe with
him. You know, she's not the

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damsel in distress that you typically see
a Bond girl be so uh like like

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Pat was saying, she's definitely got
strength. I love that her all right,

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So we'll keep going. So Pat, you're up next. You're on

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the clock. Van. You kind
of foreshadowed where I was going with this.

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I've got to pick one of my
favorite actresses of all time that when

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I found out she was going to
be a Bond girl, Miss Monica Bellucci,

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I was like absolutely floored, and
I so, I'm gonna go out

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of the gate. I'm gonna Luccia
Skiara, And I gotta be honest.

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They always say like they had been
careful with the fantasy draft. Don't just

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you know, pick from your favorite
team or pick for your favorite you know,

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and all that. But I'm just
gonna break that rule because I love

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everything that I've seen Monica Bellucci acting. And it's an understatement to say she's

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an incredibly attractive human being. But
what I think is amazing is kind of

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what we were talking about with the
actress that that was in the first Bond

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film. She was older than Daniel
Craig at the time. You know,

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you start reading about this that so
many you know that you cast like a

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fifty five year old dude with like
a twenty year old gale and it's like,

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okay, well, you know,
where is this all coming from you

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know, and but she gets on
screen and I mean, she is incredibly

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attractive on screen. The hard part
is that she has only a small part

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of the movie. But my gosh, what's done with that time? The

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scene where she's walking in in the
movie Specter, the after the funeral scene,

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and she's just walking in and you
see on her face like just resignation

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that she knows that she's going to
be you know, assassinated next, and

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it's just the camera follows her and
you're immediately captivated by the way she walks

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and just the most subtle facial expressions. And then when the assassins appear and

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you can see she resolution she knows
what's coming next. Then surprise that when

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Bond saves her, and then the
anger it all flashes, and all it

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is it's just a couple of looks, you know, just a couple of

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like, you know, twitches here
and there, a little eyebrow rays here.

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I mean, what she can communicate
is pretty amazing. So that's going

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to be my first pick out of
the gate. That's good. I've listened

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to thirties something enough to know that
that was probably gonna be high on your

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list. Yeah, I would have
failed myself if I didn't go there.

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So let's let's be let's be honest. I don't care what kind of lists

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we're putting it together. If Monica
Baladuchi is not at the top of it,

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something's wrong, you know. Yeah, there you go. Yeah,

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well, then if it's my turn, let me address that. Actually,

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because here's what I did. I
made a list the other day off the

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top of my head, right in
the order I just off the top of

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my head thought. And then you
guys sent out the list of the five

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traits to kind of grade them by, and I'm like, oh, which

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was beauty, talent, chemistry,
importance, I guess to the movie,

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and X Factor. I reordered my
entire list using a scale of one to

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ten for each of those things,
and the order completely changed. Because there

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were Bond girls that I did not
rate highly just on terms of how I

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feel about them, But when I
categorized them by how they ranked in those

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things, I was like, WHOA. There were some that came way up

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and there were a few that went
down. I will say this, the

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two highest on my draft board are
still there. I got to pick which

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one of those I want to grab
and you've each take I have four pages

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of Bond Girls, and you've taken
one from page one, page two,

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and page three. So far,
so interesting. All right, So I

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gotta like, I say, my
rule of fantasy drafting is take the one

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that's take the highest value when it's
available, and so I am taking Solitaire.

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Jane seymour Oom. That's a good
one. I'm glad she was there.

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I think she's my favorite Jane seymour
She uh, she cast into a

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Bond film at just the right time
of her career. I've been a big

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fan of Solitaire. Is it funny
that she's in a Bond movie? In

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seventy three and five years later,
Battlestar Galactica says, introducing Jane Seymour y,

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what she's a Bond girl? What
are you talking about? Introducing to

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spaces Van. I'm it looks I'll
tell you right now. That's my Solitaire

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was my number three. Overall.
I'm not even sad about you taking her

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because I knew. I knew Jason's
a big fan of her wardrobe in that

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show, in that movie. He
says, I knew if you weren't taking

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her, he probably was, So
yeah, great, pick Van. Did

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you know that she she did Playboy
at age sixty seven and that's it?

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Well, she could, I'm sure
she can. He's incredible. Yeah,

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for the part of Solitaire. They
actually were interested in Goldie han and Helen

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Mirren for that role. I did
not know that about that. Wow,

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I think Helen seventy three, Helen
Mirren. Yeah, that would have worked,

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Goldie Hawn. That's a that's an
interesting choice. Yeah, you know

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she she's more of the wacky helper
to Bond. I would think. Yeah,

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he's more good Night than Solitaire.
Yeah, she's definitely good Night.

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She's more Denise Richards category. What
don't be me? Yeah, fellow doubles,

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I mean, no one's drafting these
Richards on my number two. Overall,

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she's on the board. But we
don't get Christmas very good. All

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right, So we are going in
a snake format, which means Van,

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you get to pick again. Oh. Now here's the here's the question.

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Do I think number one I have
now taken? I'm not taking number two

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off the board. I went ahead
and took number two instead of number one

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off on my draft board because I
thought that was the right pick. Now

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the question is if it's number one
on my draft board. Do I think

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that they're gonna pop up again before
I get to pick again? Maybe my

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number one, you see the strategy. Maybe my number one is just me?

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Or do I really want her so
bad I gotta go ahead and spend

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that second pick. But honestly,
oh my gosh, yeah, I think

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she's gonna still be there. I
think she's gonna still be there. So

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I'm gonna go down the board a
little bit and get another high powered banger.

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This is a top five bond girl. I'm taking Molina have a lot,

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Carol Bouquet from For Your Eyes Only, Boom. I feel very good

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about that pick. Molina, have
a lot. I like have a lot.

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Okay, yep, the Greek crossbow
wielder, that's right, the steely

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blue eyes. I have a soft
spot for her just because she was my

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first bond girl. Oh, there
you go. She's something. And then

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later number five spokesgirl. Right,
that's right, you can't go wrong there.

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Let's see if my number one overall
is going to be there in five

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picks, I'm gonna be like putting
bullets now. She auditioned for the role

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of doctor Goodhead, which came before
eyes only, right, so she came

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back, try to get like her
enough to bring her back. So how

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about that? And she would have
been an odd choice for doctor goodhead.

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That's I think they went the right. She's more exotic. Yeah there,

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very good. All right, So
we're back to pet. So I've been

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sitting here like making notes and scratching
out and trying to do that, you

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know, and all this kind of
thing, and uh, you know,

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and then you brought up like the
ranking system and this, and so you

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know, then I threw it all
out the window, you know all that.

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So all right, so enough enough
of this kind of threatening around over

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here. I'm gonna go. I'm
gonna go with Michelle. Yo. That

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was my number one on my board
right there. Sorry, I'm sorry,

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I misspoke. I'm going with may
Day. No, okay, So so

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I'm dude, I'm sorry. See
now I feel bad and this is no

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that was my choice. I'm just
saying she'll be there six picks from now.

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Yeah, I'm sorry, man,
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm

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just well, I mean you probably
could fill in the gaps too. I

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mean, awesome action star, awesome
fighting skills, viable part of the movie

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excellent counterpoint to Bond as well as
Pierce Brosnan. I love motorcycles and check

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that scene out. That's pretty a
great scene, right, It's just great.

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You know the movies that I was
seeing in the in the in the

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nineties. You know, I'm sure
she had like a huge body of work

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beyond that, but I mean,
like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. It

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just you know, so we'd seen
that seeing her in Bond, that that

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was awesome, and so like jumping
in like as an actress, but then

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also as a character, like if
I was going to go on a secret

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mission, like I would want her
back in the up and so I yeah,

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I'm sorry, man, Van,
why don't you jump in with your

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thought I'm feeling bad now, I'm
feeling bad. No, no, no,

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no. I was my role in
the dies. I just thought that,

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like the I just thought, like
the hot Bonds and stuff would go

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first. And she is a kind
of a tough action girl. Might hang

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around a little longer, but she's
always been my number one Bond girl.

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She's one of the two Bond characters
other than Bond and Felix. She's one

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of the other two characters I want
a solo series out of I want a

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Waylin series and a Tiger Tanaka series. Those two would kick butt and solo

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series, and they almost did it. They talked about doing a Michelle Yo

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spy series and they ended up not
doing it because Ion always makes the wrong

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choice and things like that. Yeah, it's fantastic. Yeah, I've read

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that, and it's kind of like, how does that stuff not get made?

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When I try to deal with all
the other how do you not do

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it? Yeah? He Van,
I'll tell you if you've seen if if

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you guys have seen everything everywhere all
at once, she could absolutely still be

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Waylin and do an action series.
As far as i'm she was amazing in

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that she's she's amazing overall. Good
pick Pat. I was familiar. I

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happened to be familiar with her through
Jackie Chan movies, and so it's my

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impression at the time, and you
tell me if I'm right or wrong,

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was that she really was like the
first one to me that was more,

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was a lot more than just I
Candy, and was like legitimately had the

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most agency of no pun intended of
any Bond girl and was really a significant

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character in her own right in her
own strength and all that kind of stuff.

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Is that was that? Is that
really kind of was she the new

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standard once that happened, once that
movie came out to a degree. Yeah,

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my favorite story about her is she
flew over from Hong Kong and she

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gets there and they're like, oh, you speak English. She says,

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yeah, I learned on the plane. All right. So we're back to

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Jeff. Well, I'll tell you
something we're doing. We're doing this football

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00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:41.440
style draft. And one thing I
love about what Jason indeed you on Surely

406
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.799
You Can't Be Serious podcast is the
deep dive. They they're always giving us

407
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.119
the fun facts and the stuff you
never thought of. Right. I love

408
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:51.200
it, and I'm expecting Jason.
I'm expecting a lot of that from Jason

409
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:55.119
today. But man, I would
also get a little nervous because I'm afraid

410
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.599
like when he says certain things,
it's almost like I got a draft a

411
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:02.039
running back and then the guy next
you started talking about the running backs that

412
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:06.400
are still available, and your your
three picks away. So Jason, Jason

413
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:10.240
Ray dropped this name, but uh, my number two pick is gonna be

414
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:25.839
nineteen seventy nines. Holly Goodhead played
by the lovely lowiest childs in uh Moonraker

415
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:33.799
woman, Yes, yea one of
the worst. Yeah woman, Yeah,

416
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:38.519
and what very observant of you.
From that point the rest of the movie.

417
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.279
She's just pissed off at him.
I love that. Yeah. Yeah,

418
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.440
They've got great chemistry in that and
that one because because of that,

419
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.640
you know, they really ratchet up
the battle of the sexes in Moonraker and

420
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.119
let's let's be honest again, not
a damsel distress. She's the one flying

421
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:55.720
the shuttle at the end of the
you know, she's saving the day.

422
00:28:55.920 --> 00:29:00.839
I'm quickly realizing that I've I've now
drafted two of the most notoriously named Bond

423
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:07.640
girls in the franchise. Um,
that was not part of my my agenda,

424
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.359
I assure you. I have a
question which movie had the more believable

425
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:22.680
outer outer space scenes, Moonraker or
Superman four? I think, Oh man,

426
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:29.039
I just gave all the podcast like
an idea for I'm going with the

427
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:34.599
attempted re entry by Bond and movie. Yeah, I'll take I'll take good

428
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:42.720
Head over the Quest for Peace any
day, all right, So uh to

429
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.799
in the first round, we're back
to, We're back to Jason Colvin,

430
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.759
Jason, what you got? Okay? My number two overall pick is still

431
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:56.640
available. So I'm super excited.
So I'm a guy. This is gonna

432
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.160
get me in trouble too. I
like the girls that like, she's either

433
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.880
gonna kill me or I'm gonna have
the greatest sex of my life. Right

434
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:15.960
So so so I'm taking Zanya on
the top Jansen from Golden Eye, who

435
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.160
had the killer thighs and wanted to
kill Bond. But man, she was

436
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:26.720
spoken in that mood so taken.
Do you know that they wanted Courtney Cox

437
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.640
for that role? How about that? Oh my gosh, I could I

438
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:30.920
could see. I could see that
with some of the stuff, you know,

439
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.920
we we we we quickly always look
at her as as Monica from Friends,

440
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.000
but some of her roles, I
could I could see that she could

441
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.119
have done that. You know,
I would have put her in a Terry

442
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:44.640
Hatcher category. But yes, yes, yeah, but I think Pinky has

443
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:48.680
that exotic flavor that's gonna make her
a better Bond girl than than Courtney Cox,

444
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.839
I think. But you know,
I love Golden Eye. That was

445
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.759
that was when it came out,
it was immediately my favorite one I'd ever

446
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.400
seen. But it was also it
was on the top that would really made

447
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:02.720
me go, oh, I need
to be a pay attention to these girls.

448
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:04.319
Names like that one to come high, you know, come on here.

449
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.640
And I was like, okay,
you know, other than a couple

450
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.960
of the obvious ones that Jeff's already
drafted, a lot of the others had

451
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.960
gotten past me, so so that
one always stands out. I like Golden

452
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.039
Alt No more trivia from the Shirley. You can't be serious, guy,

453
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:19.920
No, no, keep going man. All right, so we're starting round

454
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.400
two. We're gonna do another snake, but this time well it'll start and

455
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.319
end with Jeff, Jeff, what
you got. This is tough because I'm

456
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.279
I'm kind of I'm seeing how some
of the guys are going with you know,

457
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.200
hey, not not at the top
of my order, but I kind

458
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.960
of wonder. So I'm gonna do
that. This isn't my next overall pick,

459
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.240
but I'm gonna dip down a little
bit. I gotta I gotta take

460
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:47.880
Honey Rider, uh miss the Lovely
Ursula andres from Doctor No. Nineteen sixty

461
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.640
two. Good for all the right
reasons. Let's be honest. The bond

462
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:56.079
girl. That's a thing because of
Ursula Andrews. She's she's where it all

463
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.079
started, you know, she coming
out of that water and the white the

464
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.200
white bikini with the dagger, you
know. And I gotta say, even

465
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:07.680
for I have to believe anyone that's
even whether you're a hardcore fan, you

466
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:12.640
know, or you're just the casual
viewer, everybody knows that scene. Everyone

467
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:16.240
knows that that look and they related
to James Bond. So taking a taking

468
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:20.920
honey Rider, Yeah, that's a
great bake man. Some of those old

469
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.359
sixties women, they seem a little
bit like a young version of my grandmother

470
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:29.400
or something. But Ursula Andres,
her beauty, it's timeless, which I

471
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:30.119
told you. I don't know if
I told you this, Jeff. But

472
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:37.119
researching these Bond girls, Ursula Andres
had a love affair with Harry Hamlin on

473
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.960
the set of Clashing the Titans,
and they had a son from that relationship,

474
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:43.880
I was like, get out of
town. Think about the genetics there.

475
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:52.480
That's that's that's that's a great looking
kid aphrodite. And so I mean

476
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.359
that that shot of her walking out
in the white bikini, you know,

477
00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:00.720
and being in the first movie,
I think really icon in one of the

478
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:04.160
defining moments that to kind of set
the pace and the framework going forward,

479
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.279
and I'm sure it was made a
huge impact on American audiences in sixty three.

480
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.519
It's, uh, you know,
it's just one of those, I

481
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:13.920
think on those iconic film moments that
kind of let everybody know right away that

482
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.240
this this whole franchise head legs.
Well. They even copied it themselves later

483
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:22.720
with halle Berry and then later with
Daniel Craig. So it's like happened three

484
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.480
times in the movies. Yeah,
right right, remember the halle Berry homage

485
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.079
there? All right, very good. So we're gonna go with Pat Pat,

486
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:35.519
You're up next, Okay, So
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go

487
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:46.920
with Holoma from No Time to Die
And that was played by Anna d'armis and

488
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.559
Jason I think I'm off your Christmas
card list now I love I love her

489
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:58.359
and that yes, funny, yeah, amazing. And so so here's what

490
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.440
I mean. You know, like, like I said, big fan,

491
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.400
and when this film came out,
it was you know, like getting back

492
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.799
to the theaters after COVID and all
this kind of thing. I'm like,

493
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.840
okay, I am going back,
and I don't care if I'm going by

494
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:12.320
myself, I'm going to see this
movie in the theaters. And so I

495
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.000
got a chance to see it,
and I loved the whole movie, and

496
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.400
she was such a wonderful part of
the movie and the thing that I loved.

497
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.840
And it was like I was sitting
in a theater almost wishing, like,

498
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:22.280
man, I wish I was at
home so I could like rewind and

499
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.960
watch these scenes again, because what
I found amazing is that it first,

500
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.679
it started off in my mind like
the stereotypical Bond girl, right, and

501
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.519
like all of a sudden, it
was like, okay, she's she seems

502
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.000
a little bit bubbly, she seems
a little out of place. I'm sure

503
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:38.480
that Daniel Craig is going to have
to bail her out. And then I

504
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:43.639
started realizing kind of my own age, realizing, okay, I'm closer to

505
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.559
Daniel craig age than I am to
her age. So that kind of reshaped

506
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:51.719
how I was looking at this character. And then when when the action,

507
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.840
like you know, when when everything
started dusting up and she was incredibly capable

508
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.000
at handling herself, incredibly capable in
a fight. I mean, was like

509
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.920
an effective part of the team.
I was just blown away with this because

510
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.280
it was such a bait and switch. You were totally expecting that, Okay,

511
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.280
this is gonna be a little She's
gonna be out of storts and Bond's

512
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.920
gonna have to help her out.
And the other thing that it only occurred

513
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.400
to me after and then I was
rewatching, is you know, at first,

514
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.320
Bond's kind of taken aback by her. She couldn't be less interested in

515
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.159
him as a person or like as
like an attractive thing. Like even when

516
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.800
she's like, here, change clothes
and he's just like, well, aren't

517
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.760
you gonna and she goes, oh, you need me to turn around?

518
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.559
Like it it didn't even occur to
her, and it was so great that,

519
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:32.920
Okay, now you have a Bond
girl. But they show and it

520
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.119
was such an effective way to show
the age was like, and that's kind

521
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.079
of where I'm starting to feel closer
Bond, Like he's not even on her

522
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:43.639
radar, like in terms of like
physical attraction. She is all about the

523
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.840
mission. And I'm just like,
how awesome is that? Like you got

524
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.000
someone you were baited into thinking she's
inexperience. She's so focused on the mission,

525
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.760
so capable at executing the mission.
I was like blown away with that

526
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.679
character. I thought, I thought
it was I thought it was awesome,

527
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:01.440
and the way Anna Dharmas played it
was was fantastic. She played Marilyn Monroe

528
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:07.559
down the Road in a movie called
Blonde. So the main character in Knives

529
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:12.719
Out and I believe is that she
Isn't she in the spinoff? She's about

530
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.679
to do the spin off, the
John Wick spinoff Ballerina. I thought,

531
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:21.000
I haven't heard. Yes, she's
there, I'm there. Yeah, had

532
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.199
I gotta say, I'm, I'm
I'm I'm tracking your list. And if

533
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:27.599
there's if there's one word I could
call it, I would say exotic.

534
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:32.719
There we go, There we go. They're both Craig movies, right,

535
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.480
Two of two of the three are
yeah, Yeah he took. He also

536
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:44.079
took Michelle. Yeah, in case
you forgot, you forgot. I don't

537
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.360
think he forgot, so Van,
you're on the clock, all right.

538
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:51.239
So I was just looking at my
draft board here, and of the fifth

539
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:55.599
of my top fifteen, eight are
gone, but there's seven left and I

540
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.039
have four that are all tied.
So my number five, six, seven,

541
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.280
and eight are really just tied.
For fifth. So I just gotta

542
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.119
basically flip up roll of four sided
die to figure out where I'm going here,

543
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.480
because they're all totally tied and they're
equally good. Yeah. Oh,

544
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:14.280
by the way, talking about Daniel
Craig, he is like a week younger

545
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:16.079
than me. I don't have the
mileage that he does, I don't think.

546
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:20.480
But I haven't done some of the
things he's done, though, so

547
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:25.400
I missed out on that part.
But anyway, sure, yeah, all

548
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:29.360
right, So I gotta make a
choice here, and I've got five.

549
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.760
I got four tied together to choose
among and I mean, you really can't

550
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:36.559
go wrong with any of these,
So I'm gonna gonnagain. I'm using my

551
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:40.800
strategy of high value target. And
I look at these four, and one

552
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:45.920
of them is I think a little
more special, just a tiny bit more

553
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:51.639
special, because she's the only one
on the entire draft board. That is

554
00:37:51.719 --> 00:38:10.760
Missus James Bond. Oh yes,
making Vincenzo better known as Tracy Bond.

555
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.760
Diana rigg from on her Majesty's secret
service. I can't believe she's still here

556
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:17.480
in round three. So I gotta
jump, I gotta I have to jump

557
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:22.639
on Diana Rigg if you'll excuse me, Yeah, Van, you're becoming that.

558
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.559
You're becoming the guy that steals my
picks now, like you're that guy

559
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:34.880
Pat meanwhile, Pat? Okay,
so not just me? Yeah? Very

560
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.920
good. Well, speaking of ages, I figured out that I am right

561
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:43.119
now the same age Sean Connery was
in Never Say Never Again. Wow.

562
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.079
You know, I'm not attracting com
basing her types, but I think I'm

563
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:51.519
doing pretty good for myself. All
right. When I first saw Fore Your

564
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:54.800
Eyes Only, you have that opening
scene where he's visiting her grave, that's

565
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:59.039
right, and so I was like, whoa, what is this? Like?

566
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.519
What what's story is being told here
that I don't know? And so

567
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.079
that kind of helped drive my interest
in Bond. I had to find out

568
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.400
who is Teresa Bond? You know, So there you go. That's great,

569
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.559
and you know, I don't want
to get too far off the track,

570
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:13.519
but you know, it's funny on
her Majesty's seecret service. I don't

571
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:15.800
want to say was ignored, but
it was always like Daniel or not Daniel,

572
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:20.519
the Sean Connery and the Roger Moore
Bonds like growing up and that's what

573
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.079
my grandparents and it was only when
I got to college that one of my

574
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:27.519
friends was like, on Her Majesty's
Secret Service is the best Bond film ever.

575
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.280
This was this was like early nineties, and I'd like, really,

576
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.639
and he goes the best ever watch, you know, and the only thing

577
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.760
is, like he got the actor
that por trade Bond. You know,

578
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:38.079
he had a favorite, you know, I think he liked Sean Connery or

579
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.039
whatnot. But yeah, then I
watched on Her Majesty's Secret Service and I

580
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.159
was blown away, and I thought, missus Bond like that. That movie

581
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.199
is awesome and somehow in maybe now, I don't know how you guys are

582
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:50.519
with it, but it almost kind
of fell in the cracks growing up,

583
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:52.800
you know, between all the other
ones going out there. Well, the

584
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:54.400
thing was they wouldn't show it on
ABC like they did Live In like that

585
00:39:54.800 --> 00:40:00.000
and and the others, and it
was not financially successful like the That's one

586
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.000
of the reasons that he didn't return. The other reason was he quit because

587
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.079
he got all bighead thinking he was
the biggest start in the world. But

588
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:12.599
the thing about that Jason you mentioned
about Seeing the Grave, that movie was

589
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.400
the only one where they just filmed
the book Peter Hunt, the editor,

590
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.039
was allowed to direct that one,
and he said, I'm not gonna do

591
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:21.920
some you know, take the book
and mess it all up. We're just

592
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:23.679
going to film the book, and
they did, and it really doesn't fit

593
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:28.280
into the series. In fact,
Blowfeld is in that movie and he's never

594
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.320
seen Bond before when he just fought
Bond in the previous movie. It doesn't

595
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.800
fit in. And you could have
just said it's like outside of continuity,

596
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.360
except for for your eyes only brings
it back into continuity, so you're stuck

597
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:42.719
with it being Yeah, so it's
very confusing, but yeah, that's absolutely

598
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.119
It's easy for me as a casual
fan to dismiss it. You know,

599
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.039
it's easy to think to myself that
one doesn't really count because it was just

600
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.679
a one shot for Lazenbi. That's
the movie that the real Bond connoisseurs consider

601
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.079
the best in the series. By
the way, it's the one the casual

602
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:59.519
fans think is the worst and the
Bond fans think is the best generally,

603
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:01.280
because true us to the book.
Okay, good, pick, good,

604
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:06.960
pick, all right, So Jason, you get two in a row here,

605
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:08.760
So Jason, what's your first one? Oh, I'm so excited that

606
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.760
both of these people are still available. So Van, I think mentioned that

607
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.519
the ABC movies being shown in the
seventies and eighties, and that's kind of

608
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:21.760
where I I caught on, I
guess in the early eighties. So I

609
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.679
watched The Spy Who Loved Me on
ABC and absolutely fell in love. That's

610
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.840
my favorite Roger Moore James Bond movie. It even surpasses for you, I

611
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.400
was only which was on my first
Love. So I love The Spy Who

612
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:38.679
Love Me? And so I am
taking Agent Triple X as my next pick.

613
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:53.719
I'm yeah, I'm a silva missus
ringo star played by Barbara Bach.

614
00:41:54.039 --> 00:42:01.360
Her dress was captivating as a man
so to say the least, Jason,

615
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.880
I, I appreciate her. Again, I hate the movie for personal reasons.

616
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:10.159
She is not my favorite Bond girl
in that movie. Oh what,

617
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.000
yeah, my gosh, wow,
it's interesting. This is interesting. It's

618
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.519
such a subjective thing, right,
It's all a subjective thing. It's that's

619
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.440
what's so cool. Yeah. Do
you know that she recommended Grace Jones for

620
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.760
a view to a kill? Oh
wow, I thought that was an interesting

621
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.480
tidbit. So and yarn good recommendation. Heck, yeah, okay, So

622
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.719
am I back to back here yep, back to about you get your second

623
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.480
pick? All right, all right, I am taking the thirty eight year

624
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:52.760
old beautiful bod Adams as octopusy otos
yeah ye. Even though technically she should

625
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:58.039
be on the board twice, she
should be well two different characters. I

626
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.880
feel like her chemistry with Roger were
because they are both similar ages that I

627
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:06.800
believed it a lot more than him
chasing some of these younger girls or no

628
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:16.039
baby throwing herself at him and that
type of thing. So alone, Beab's

629
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:22.960
on my board, but not highly
yeah so uh. I think we're all

630
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:27.119
comic book fans here. Um.
When the last time I did a Little

631
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:31.559
Bond marathon over the weekend, I
was struck by Maud Adams just by how

632
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:37.280
similar she looked to a John Busema
drawing. I think, h he's one

633
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.679
of the best artists when it comes
to drawing women, and he has a

634
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:44.800
distinct style. And I think Maud
Adams, especially in this movie, looks

635
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:49.639
like a John Busma drawing brought to
I'm seeing it. I am absolutely seeing

636
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.000
that now. Wow, So she
makes an impression on me. She has

637
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.440
to go high on my board too. All right, very good? Well,

638
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.039
uh, Jeff, I'm afraid Jason
took one of your one of your

639
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:04.000
you know, juice your names off
the board for you. I couldn't take

640
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.119
them, all right. When I
was at the movie there, I was

641
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.719
just gonna show, let's say this. In nineteen eighty three, I went

642
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:14.280
to the movie there with my dad, and the guy came out and said,

643
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.519
the last screening for octopusy has been
sold out. And these teenagers behind

644
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:22.320
me, they're like, Octor what
oct What? My dad was like,

645
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.079
did you ever act that way in
public? I'll kill you? Did you

646
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.519
just turn around and watch Never Say
Never again? Instead? I think I

647
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:35.800
watched Super Band three. Actually,
all right, so let's keep it going,

648
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:40.880
and it's a tragedy story from all
right, Van, you're back on

649
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.800
the flock. It's back to you. Well, of my top seven on

650
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:49.280
the board, two are still available, so and then two of my top

651
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.119
two more in the top top ten, so to four available here. Let

652
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.239
me see, I still got three
of those that are equally ranked, and

653
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:59.679
I I gotta figure out which one
of them is the most gets the most

654
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:01.480
valid value. I'll put it this
way. I got a Connery, a

655
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:06.760
Craig, and a Brasening. I
haven't picked a Craig yet. I don't

656
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.239
think you still got girls left in
the Spider Loved Me. I just reminding

657
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:14.719
you this is true. I do, I do. But she's pretty far

658
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:16.039
down though. But you know what, I'm gonna have to go with this

659
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:20.840
the classic. I gotta go with
just the Clares. The thing that's cool

660
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.639
about two of them is like neat, but this is just the classic.

661
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.800
I would be remiss not to take
her when she's there. We just had

662
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:34.000
a Russian agent taked I'm taking another
Russian agent, Tatiana Romanova Daniella Beyanti from

663
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:47.320
Russia with Love Nice. Yeah.
I mean, she doesn't do a whole

664
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:55.039
lot in that movie, dang,
but she does a lot a lot for

665
00:45:55.079 --> 00:46:00.760
you. She's arguably the most beautiful
of all the Bond girls. I would

666
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.519
argue, I think if you had
it, if you had just a beauty

667
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.800
contest, I think she might be
number one. That's why the k selected

668
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:09.239
her. Yeah, right, And
I'm sorry, what was the character's name,

669
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:15.199
Tatiana Romanova related to Black Widow?
I was gonna say every Russian agent

670
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:21.760
apparently his named Romanoff. It is
all royalty bizarre. All right, very

671
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:22.880
good, let's keep it going.
Pat, you'rerope, You're on the clock.

672
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.840
I was actually until you made that
pick, I was kind of like

673
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.800
torn between the next two. But
this, this is this is that.

674
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:31.199
Just say okay, it takes one
of my picks off the board. There.

675
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:47.599
Um, I'm gonna go with the
movie Thunderball and Fiona Volpai. Oh

676
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:55.480
there you golay Yeah, And uh
so Thunderball was I remember seeing all the

677
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:59.039
Bond movies growing up as a kid, but Thunderball was the one that really

678
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:01.119
stuck in my mind because I love
the water. I love the ocean,

679
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.960
I love the swimming, I love
all of that, and so as a

680
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.880
kid, I love boats. I
loved water, and that summed it all

681
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.280
up. And what I liked about
the Fiona character was that she was tough.

682
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.719
I mean, I know, she
was like, you know, on

683
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:19.599
the bad guy side, but I
mean like she was like capable and I'm

684
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.719
just reading kind of like one of
the bio she has no issue killing anyone

685
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.639
who gets in her way or screws
up the mission, and like, you

686
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:29.840
know, like I mean to say
that, you know, killing anyone,

687
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:31.119
but I mean, like We've all
had days like that where it's just like,

688
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.360
Okay, if anybody screws up the
mission, they're going to deal with

689
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.760
my bad side, you know.
So I really I just I appreciated that

690
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.360
that, you know, like she
just came out and I'm repeating myself from

691
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.119
some of the other characters, but
it was just like super focused, super

692
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:50.119
professional, and dangerous because she was
on the bad guy side, right but

693
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.800
for the bad guy side, super
effective. So it was just fun watching

694
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:57.480
her on screen. And she just
has to you know, you know,

695
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.559
check her six when Bond swirls her
around with the dam you know. I

696
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.920
would hope that if they reshot this
movie today, they would do everything the

697
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.599
same, but as opposed to getting
like shot in the back, there would

698
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:13.559
be some epic fight scene like in
uh, you know, like in some

699
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.400
of the Mission Impossible movies or something
like, you know, like they did

700
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:20.840
like there would just that would be
awesome. But anyways, I digress.

701
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.840
That's that's my that's my What was
that fourth pick um? It would be

702
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:31.320
Fiona Volpe from Thunderball. She has
one of my favorite Connery moments of all

703
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:35.480
time. She's in the bathtub and
he comes in and He's just sitting there

704
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:37.920
talking to her and she's got to
get up, and she says, would

705
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:43.840
you hand me something to wear?
And he hands her shoes. So correct,

706
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:49.639
I love it. Can I borrow
your towel? My cards? Just

707
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:54.800
in a water buffalo? Okay?
So to finish up the round, we

708
00:48:54.880 --> 00:49:00.400
have Jeff on the clock. Well
Van earlier mentioned. We're talking about how

709
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:02.000
we are ranking, how we came
up with our rankings, and you know,

710
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:06.920
you immediately want to go with your
favorites, right, and then you

711
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.440
start using you know, the clever
ranking system and then you figure out,

712
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:13.800
wait, this person wasn't even on
my radar, and you know she's my

713
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:16.880
six pick. She's my six overall, which is surprising to me, but

714
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:21.800
I mean I gotta go with the
best overall at this point. So,

715
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:30.599
talking about nineteen eighty nine License to
Kill Pam Bouvier, the Lovely Carry Lowell,

716
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:44.639
this is one of those things where
I was like, wait, how

717
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.199
did she get How was she so
highly ranked on my list? And I

718
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:52.360
mean she's a freelance pilot for the
CIA. That's here, X factor shot

719
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:57.320
through the roof on that. You
know, great chemistry with Dalton so and

720
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:59.760
you know pretty integral to the story. You know, she's the she.

721
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.679
You know she's informing on the on
the bad guy. So surprisingly she was

722
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:05.840
high on the list, and I
was I'm happy to see that she was

723
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:08.320
still there. So I'm taking Pam
Bouvier one of my least favorite Bond movies.

724
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:10.400
I was. I will say,
do you have any Dalton haters here?

725
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:14.800
Because I actually I actually liked the
Dalton movies. I love Dalton,

726
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.119
I love him as a character.
I liked Living Daylights. But I'm not

727
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:21.320
a fan of License to Kill.
No, No, it's probably my It's

728
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:24.199
in my bottom three, along with
a View to a Kill and maybe Octopusy.

729
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.039
Honestly, so, Wayne Newton does
not strike fear into your heart.

730
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.199
No, she's one of the best
things about it. Though I agree,

731
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.119
I can't. I can't see Wayne
Newton striking fear, especially after the the

732
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:44.079
Andrew dice Clay movie. You know, Newton's the bad guy. Come on,

733
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:49.440
we could do better. Wayne Newton's
best cinematic appearance was when Ferris Bueler

734
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:53.199
lip sync to him in Ferris Bueller's
Day Off. I don't need him as

735
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:59.119
a Bond villain. Okay, guys, so we're picking five girls each today

736
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:02.440
and everyone has made four picks.
Yes, so we're down to the home

737
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:07.199
stretch. It's going to go Pat
is up next and then it'll be Van,

738
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:14.320
Jason and Jeff will close this out. So don't you do it?

739
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:16.880
Okay? So I'm starting to look
at this and uh, you know,

740
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:21.239
looking at okay, I'm constructing a
team right now, like it's going to

741
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:23.280
accomplish a mission, right like,
and how do I balance out the team?

742
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:28.159
You know in my fantasy world that
like any one of these characters would

743
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:31.440
follow me anywhere. But the other
thing I look at too, is I

744
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:37.079
sometimes and if you listen to the
podcast, like the thirty something podcast,

745
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.840
like h sometimes I'd just like to
tick people off, just to kind of

746
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:44.519
do it and change things up or
throwing a hey have you thought about this

747
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:47.000
play Devil's Advocate and all that.
And so for my final choice, I'm

748
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:52.320
going to go again with No Time
to Die, I'm gonna go with the

749
00:51:52.400 --> 00:52:07.199
female Double O seven character of Nomi
played by Lashawna Lynch. And I thought

750
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.199
that was I thought it was great. I thought that part of the movie

751
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:14.320
was great. I thought the way
she played it was great. I thought

752
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.440
the way she gave Daniel Craig a
hard time, or James Bond, not

753
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:20.519
Daniel Craig. But when she gave
James Bond a hard time like I'm gonna

754
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.000
kick you in the knee the one
that works, I'm just like, oh

755
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:29.199
my gosh, that's awesome. And
then what was great was that that in

756
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.960
a way we were watching movie within
a movie and she was the new Double

757
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:37.679
O seven on the mission for m
I six, and that that could have

758
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:39.559
been like a whole Bond, like
that could have been what Daniel Craig was

759
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:43.920
in Casino Royale, and I thought
that she played that so well. I

760
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:49.000
think it was awesome to see a
black woman playing the Double O seventh role.

761
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.559
And I mean, obviously this isn't
the nature of the of what this

762
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:54.480
episode's about, but you know,
whenever you change things up, there gets

763
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.639
to be controversy, right. I
remember when Daniel Craig was cast and everyone

764
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.000
was shreaking out because he was blind, and I you know, like you

765
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.880
can't have a blond James Bond,
like what the heck? But I thought

766
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.320
they did such a great job of
Okay, well, no, this is

767
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.000
Double O seven, but it's not
James Bond and just seeing the interplay and

768
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.639
needless to say, she's, you
know, an m I six double,

769
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:16.400
so you know, she's incredibly effective. So if I'm looking at my team

770
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:20.880
here, I would definitely want to
have her on the team. And now

771
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:22.559
I'm looking at this thinking, man, this would make an excellent movie.

772
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:28.559
So I'm gonna say I'm gonna stay
well SHAWNA Lynch to me from No Time

773
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.559
to Die? Okay, can I
say something? Absolutely? Yes? Okay,

774
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:37.039
everybody, everybody back up just a
second, because Pat just selected Mutt

775
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:43.239
on a Best Indiana Jones list.
Oh why am not? I was not

776
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.559
a fan of that turn in No
Time to Die? Giving the hollow double

777
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:52.039
O seven number to anyone else,
I was like, what are you doing?

778
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:55.519
No, that belongs to Bond,
and I understand why they did it

779
00:53:55.559 --> 00:54:00.599
in the movie stuff, but I
um kind of hard time swallowing that.

780
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:06.960
I wish you would told up a
little bit. I wish you had told

781
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:10.840
me he had picked Mutt before I
agreed to moderate this episode. I'm just

782
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:16.559
playing. I actually I revisited Crystal
Skull like recently, and I actually don't

783
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:20.599
hate it as much as I did
before. That's not to say that I

784
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.480
don't hate it, but it's got
some redeeming value there that I hadn't noticed

785
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.920
before. But that's a different episode. All right, We ready to keep

786
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:29.360
going, Yes, let's keep it. All right, we're on our final

787
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.519
pick for van Van. How are
you gonna round out your team? Well,

788
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:37.199
um, Pat, you've pretty much
cleaned out the Daniel Craig files now,

789
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:42.840
right, kind it was kind of
weighted towards those. It was,

790
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:49.440
it was except for the one that
you didn't right in all fairness, In

791
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.199
all fairness, I mean, I
didn't have any exclamations of awe. But

792
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:58.360
like basically all of my like ones
from the earlier movies were taken Octopussy,

793
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:02.800
Anya Amasova and and then you grabbed
Daniello Bianchi that and that was between her

794
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:06.559
and the other one. So I
did have some earlier ones there on my

795
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:09.039
list, but but you guys got
to them first. But I'm not I'm

796
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:13.800
not complaining because I just the Michelle
Yo thing. I'm still I'm gonna watch

797
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:20.119
my back leaving the podcast probably smart. Well, I think we're gonna pick

798
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:22.199
the one we would take from another
roster, and I think everybody knows which

799
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:24.639
one I'm gonna take from the roster, all right. So if the top

800
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:28.639
seven on my board, there's only
one left. But I'm not sure I

801
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:30.079
want her. If I go buy
numbers, you know what I mean.

802
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:34.159
If I go buy numbers, that's
who's there. But I don't I with

803
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.440
my last pick. I don't.
I might want to go with my heart

804
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.599
a little bit, you know what
I'm saying. So I've got two that

805
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:43.639
are rated higher, and then I
got one that's more in my heart.

806
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:45.320
I want the Bond folks to look
at my list and go, man,

807
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:49.119
he cleaned up, right, But
I also kind of want to be able

808
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:54.239
to feel good about it myself.
Call here, h gosh, you got

809
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:59.000
four solids, right up? I
mean you got you got a strong roster.

810
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:04.159
I feel I feel very good about
my about my team. But I

811
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.559
mean, you know, I gotta
I've got I've got only about ten of

812
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:12.880
them that are ranked in the forties
and there's three left that are in the

813
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:16.400
forties here, and I gotta decide
which one of those to take. I'm

814
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:20.000
you know, I gonna have to
just pull the trigger here, No pun

815
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.280
intended with Bond. I think,
yeah, you know what I'm gonna go

816
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.880
with my heart, especially since I
didn't get way Lynn. I'm gonna get

817
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:40.280
Aki from you only Live twice.
I like that she's the other Asian fighting

818
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:45.159
character. That's that's cool, so
we'll go with her. That's she was

819
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:47.639
the third though, So there's two
I still have above and I'm I may

820
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:52.159
kick myself later, but we'll see. Hey, as long as one of

821
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.079
them is at Kissi Suzuki, I
think you're okay. She was the other

822
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:59.119
one. I mean, she's there. She she and Aki are pretty close

823
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:00.880
together. But I think for me, but what you know in the books

824
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:07.679
Kissi Suzuki has bonds kid, Yeah, yeah, but I went with Aki

825
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:12.119
just because I love She's got the
cool wool white Honda or whatever that she

826
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.960
rolls around in, and she outsmarts
Bond a couple of times, tricks him

827
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:19.320
to go down in the layer of
Tiger Tanaka, and clearly she's Tiger's first

828
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.119
choice for agent. He kind of
goes to Kissy when Aki's unfortunately killed.

829
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:25.239
So I really like Aki a lot, so I'm gonna go with Icky.

830
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:29.519
When I was a kid, her
her death scene was another one that I

831
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.159
was like, oh no, not
no. I love hockey. Yeah,

832
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.320
good all right, So Jason,
you're on the clock for your final pick.

833
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:38.639
Okay, Before I make my final
pick, I've got this nugget that

834
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:42.840
I want to throw out there.
It came across this and I hope I'm

835
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:46.440
not stealing just thunder here. But
Tiffany Case who was played by Jill Saint

836
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:51.320
John and Diamonds Are Forever and plenty
Old Tool who was played by Lana Wood

837
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.920
and Diamonds Are Forever. I found
this very interesting. Those two women absolutely

838
00:57:54.960 --> 00:58:00.039
hate each other, like they can't
be in the same room together. So

839
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:04.679
this is the interesting thing. So
Laana Wood is the younger sister to Natalie

840
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.920
Wood. Okay, and of course
she was married to Robert Wagner and her

841
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:12.800
death was this very controversial thing.
A lot of people think Robert Wagner had

842
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:16.239
something to do with it. Well, Jill Saint John actually married Robert Wagner

843
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:21.679
and they've been married for like fifty
years or whatever. And so Lana Wood

844
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.760
still thinks that Robert Wagner killed her
sister, and Jill Saint John is obviously

845
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:30.119
married to Robert Wagner, so they
can't even they couldn't do a Diamonds Are

846
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:34.719
Forever a photo shoot ever again,
because it can't mean Wow. Okay,

847
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.760
I think there's probably a lot of
people that think that Robert Wagner is married

848
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:42.519
to Stephanie Powers. But that's a
whole other agent. That's a deep pool

849
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:49.880
right there. That's good, all
right. So my number five and my

850
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.679
number seven are still on the board. And then I've got Olga Carolynko,

851
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:57.239
who I'm absolutely in love with.
She's like my Monica Belluchief for Pat.

852
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:00.559
Anytime I see Olga Carolynko, I'm
like, oh my gosh, that woman

853
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:02.960
who majors. But I gotta leave
her off. I'm not. I'm going

854
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.599
to choose something better with my head, I think. But the whole reason

855
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.079
we started this discussion is I think
I told Jeff that Electric King, played

856
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:14.840
by Sophie Marceau, was a first
rounder. Ye. Yes, but but

857
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:17.280
I'm not going to take her.
Okay, she will be my sixth pick.

858
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:20.960
Okay. What I'm gonna do is
I'm gonna go off board. I'm

859
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.159
gonna give Pat a chance to kill
me because I just torched him for his

860
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:28.400
pick. I am taking a woman
that I probably would guess is not on

861
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:34.440
anyone's list, and I'm not taking
money body and I'm not taking Une Easton.

862
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:38.920
I'm taking Fatima Blush, played by
Barbara Carrera, who was from Never

863
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:47.840
Say Never Again, Never Never Never
Again. She's actually the same character that

864
00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:54.480
Fiona Volpe plays in Thunderball. Character
that's right and very good character. Bond

865
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:59.800
actually kills her with the bazooka gun
right while she's making him sign a confession.

866
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:05.840
She's the greatest woman he's ever been
with. Yep, I forgot about

867
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:07.519
that, Oh my god. And
his response is, well, there was

868
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:13.320
this girl in Philadelphia, but I
just absolutely loved her. I know a

869
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:15.800
lot of people hate Never Say Never
Again, but she is such a great

870
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:22.079
fim fatalel and she's beautiful. I'm
taking her Fatima Blush. God, I

871
01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:25.000
totally forgot about Never Say Never Again. That's that's good. And I'm surprised

872
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:28.599
you didn't go kim basing her when
you went over to Never Say Never Again.

873
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:30.639
So it was tempted. I know. Interesting, good, Pat,

874
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:34.360
I feel bad about about land Based
and you just meant to go. I'm

875
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:37.719
sorry, I don't invite you in
at the last second. Then I rip

876
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:40.519
your pick. I'm sorry, that's
fine, man, I'm just looking at

877
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:44.679
my picks, you know. You
better watch out because they're gonna you know,

878
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:49.679
they can come take care of business
before you even know what's going on.

879
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:53.239
That's true. That's true. So
next up will be Jeff for the

880
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:58.840
final pick of this draft. When
he's done, we'll have everybody go through

881
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.719
and kind of announced the raw are
real quick to remind everybody of who they

882
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:05.079
ended up with, and then we're
going to do a round of where everyone

883
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.079
gets to pick from someone else's roster. If you could take one Bond girl

884
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:13.000
from somebody else that they drafted,
who would you take so that you could

885
01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:15.199
have her on your team? All
right? So Jeff take away for us

886
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:20.960
your final pick in the draft.
Very honored to have the final pick,

887
01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:24.320
and I'm loving the fact that my
eighth overall is still on the board.

888
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:29.000
Look, Jason Van, you guys
are talking and Never Say Never Again,

889
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:32.000
and you know, I know it's
divisive with the Bond fans because of Thunderball,

890
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:37.400
but I'm happy to say that my
final pick will be Domino Patachi aka

891
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:45.840
Kim Basinger in Never Say Never Again. Never. Wow. Right there,

892
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:47.880
you can see it. I'm on
the list. I was waiting, and

893
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:52.960
I honestly I thought I thought this
will be my this will be my curveball

894
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:58.960
because non Cannon Bond you know,
depending on who you talk to, and

895
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:01.280
you know, it's is it Thunderball, is it not Thunderball. There's such

896
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:05.400
a whole history with these two movies, so I but it's one of my

897
01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:07.440
one of the things, one of
the ones I liked a lot when I

898
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:10.519
was growing up. I still remember
the cool thing he did with his watch

899
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:14.599
with a laser, you know,
when they're I think they're somewhere in Afghanistan

900
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.719
or something like that, or create
the interesting fact here, this is nineteen

901
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:22.400
eighty three Kim Basinger. They had
went after her several times to play a

902
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:24.280
Bond girl. She turned down.
She had turned it down, but she

903
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:27.880
turned it out twice. I know
Moonraker was one of the ones she turned

904
01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:30.119
down. She wanted to be taken
as a serious actress, so at this

905
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:34.360
point in her career it wasn't happening. She finally says, you know what,

906
01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:37.960
I'll do it, and rest is
history. Because you know, we

907
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.119
talk, you know in van you
know you've probably have talked about this maybe

908
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:45.039
on your podcast, about the what
they call the Bond Girl curse. I

909
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:47.960
would say it worked out for her
for sure. Final Pig, Domino,

910
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:52.039
the lovely Kim Basinger, good one, right, good one. All right,

911
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.639
guys, how do you all feel
about your teams? I love my

912
01:02:54.760 --> 01:03:00.199
roster. Yeah, all right,
So just to recap and remind everybody,

913
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.480
let's let's list announce and rosters.
Everybody know exactly who you ended up with,

914
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:05.960
and we'll go in the original draft
order. So, Jason, who

915
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.440
do you got? So? I
got vesper Land, Zenia on the top,

916
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:15.159
Agent, Triple X, Octopussy and
Fatima Blush excellent, and Jeff quite

917
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:20.960
a quite a round up round up
here. I've got Pussy Galore, Holly

918
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:28.519
Goodhead, Honey Ryder, Pam Bouvier, and Domino Patachi that's strong, strong,

919
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:31.800
And then Pat with the with the
strike team. Who do you have

920
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:38.159
there? I've got Luccia, Skia, Way, Lynn, Holoma, Fiona

921
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:44.719
Vulpe and No Me tough job,
good job, very nice work, Pat

922
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:51.039
and Van. I've got Solitaire,
Melina have a lock, Tracy Bond,

923
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:58.159
Tatiana Romanova and Aki. All right, so let's go ahead and get into

924
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:02.159
the round of of stealing a pick
from somebody else's roster. If you could

925
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:06.639
do that, uh, Jeff from
I'll let you go first that you're at

926
01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:10.480
the top of the screen here for
me, what's what's the name that was

927
01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:14.039
picked today that you wish you could
have drafted? Absolutely I would have went

928
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:16.840
with vesper Lynd right out the gate
if I had the shot. All right.

929
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.440
Yeah, that scene in the train
car when her and Bond go back

930
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:25.760
and forth like figuring each other out. Man, that is incredible, like

931
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:30.039
just you're a and she just he
goes right down the list and then he's

932
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:31.360
and she says, okay, well
let me go, you know, and

933
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.760
she just nails all the things.
I mean, that's just great, awesome,

934
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:40.119
awesome acting scene, but then awesome
like character development for who she was,

935
01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:44.280
you know, talking character development and
matching wits and all that with with

936
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:48.360
Bond. Casino Royal also has one
of my favorite scenes in the Bond movies

937
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:54.559
and probably one of my more favorite
scenes in Casino Royals. After he dispatches

938
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:59.199
a couple guys finds her in the
shower, clearly traumatized. Yeah, that

939
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:01.960
that tender moment. I mean,
it was probably the last time you saw

940
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:08.199
Bond care so deeply about a woman. Was probably on her Majesty's secret service.

941
01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:11.840
I love that that soft, tender
moment that they share, and that's

942
01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:14.440
where you're like, you know what, She's not going to be just another

943
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:16.599
notch on the bedpost. She's he's
into her, you know. So Yeah,

944
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:19.800
I love Vesper. Yeah, awesome, Dason, what pick would you

945
01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:25.519
steal? Okay, the highest girl
on my list that is not on my

946
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:30.760
roster is Solitaire from Live and Let
Die. A young, beautiful Jane Seymour,

947
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.960
and she, you know, she's
impacting the story and then of course

948
01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:38.760
the whole thing of her losing her
powers to bond because he steals her purity

949
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:42.960
whatever. Solitaire is just a personal
favorite of mine and Jane seymore. How

950
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.599
can you how can you lose so
excellent? Van? I think we all

951
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:50.000
know what you're gonna say. But
well, my number one on the board

952
01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:56.000
was way Lean at forty six points
by the way I tap points. My

953
01:05:56.119 --> 01:06:00.199
number two was Solitaire at forty five, but my number three was Vesper at

954
01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:03.719
four four. But using my value
theory of drafting, I probably would have

955
01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:08.079
picked Vesper with the first pick.
I ended up with my second choice,

956
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.639
so because both one and three were
gone, I believe by the time it

957
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:13.639
was my choice but I got number
two, so I was happy with that.

958
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:15.920
But I had to take way N
because I absolutely love Michelle Yo.

959
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:17.639
I love wait Lynd. She does
such cool stuff in that movie. She's

960
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:20.559
way cooler than Bond, and that's
my favorite Bond too brising, and yet

961
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:26.280
she's out she out cools my favorite
Bond. So yeah, awesome and pat,

962
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:29.519
which when would you pick? I
would go from the spy who loved

963
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:32.480
me. I would go with a
major Anya Amasolvo. We already talked about,

964
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:36.719
you know how awesome the character was
and just such a great foil for

965
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:41.880
Bond and on a personal mission as
well as a professional mission. Yeah,

966
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:48.519
awesome, excellent. All right,
well, gentlemen, that's gonna do it

967
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:53.880
for our Bond Girl draft. Thank
you very much for getting together for this.

968
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:56.199
It was tons of fun for me. I feel like we had a

969
01:06:56.199 --> 01:07:00.400
bit of an Avengers All Star matchup
here with all favorite podcast of getting together

970
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:03.639
on one spot. And thank you
very much for allowing me the honor being

971
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:10.000
able to moderate it. We are
publishing this episode on April thirteenth, and

972
01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:15.559
that is significant because it is actually
the seventieth anniversary of the original James Bond

973
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:20.480
novel Casino Royale, and so to
kind of mark that event, we decided

974
01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:24.679
to get these guys together and have
a little James Bond discussion. I hope

975
01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:28.360
everybody enjoyed it as much as I
did. Now we've drafted these teams,

976
01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:30.119
but who won, well, that
is up to you. Be on the

977
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:35.679
lookout for all these guys their social
media accounts and you will see an opportunity

978
01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:40.159
to kind of review the rosters and
then vote on who you think was the

979
01:07:40.199 --> 01:07:44.119
winner. And if you just follow
follow any of these guys on social media,

980
01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:46.440
you will you'll see how it all
turns out. Thank you guys for

981
01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:48.679
being here. I had tons of
fun. We got to do this again

982
01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:51.719
sometime and talk about other things,
so appreciate you guys be willing to do

983
01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:58.480
this on Saturday afternoon, James Bond
will return. Jaturn all right, Thank you,