Feb. 18, 2026

Phasers Set To Stun: Starfleet Academy S1. E6 - Come, Let's Away

Phasers Set To Stun: Starfleet Academy S1. E6 - Come, Let's Away
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Season 7

On Phasers Set To Stun, we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more!

This year marks the 60th anniversary of Star Trek and we've got an exciting new series to watch! Wayne, David, and Scott will be discussing plots, sharing their favorite characters, and revealing all the Easter eggs within Star Trek: Starfleet Academy!

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set to Stunt.

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In this ongoing series from a film by podcast, we

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continue to show our love for every quadrant of the

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expanding Star Trek universe by covering television, animation, movies, directors, merchandise,

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and much more. Plotting the course, as always is your

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Core Trek crew.

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I'm Scott Hoffmann, I'm David Burns, and I'm Wayne Whiten.

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And in this episode, we're happy to continue our coverage

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of Starfleet Academy. Specifically, we're covering episode six, Come Let's Away,

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written by Kenneth Lynn and Kylie Rousstetter and directed by

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Larry Tank. Since it's so new, as always, we're calling

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for a red alert on spoilers, So if you haven't

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seen this latest episode, please go watch.

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And come back to join us.

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So waitne it falls to you to summarize this week's

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episode and to tell us what it's all about.

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During a joint training exercise aboard a DERELK starship, the

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cadets of Starfleet Academy quickly find themselves trapped and fighting

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for survival against a dangerous new enemy. As the situation

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spirals out of control, Captain Nalla Ake is forced to

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seek help from an old rival, nus Braka, risking both

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her pride and her cruise safety. Meanwhile, Tamira pushes her

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telepathic abilities beyond their limit to reach the stranded cadets,

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leading to a devastating sack that leaves the academy shaken.

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This is a very shocking episode. It's definitely the action

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packed but I think it's safe to say that the

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tone of this episode starts one way and ends very differently.

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Would you say that's fair, Dave.

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No, that's very fair.

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You know, when this episode opened, I'm like, oh, okay,

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you know we're gonna get some romance, you know, that

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kind of thing going on. And man, is this episode

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take a complete turn and just becomes like an Empire

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strikes back vibe. By the time you get it into

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this thing. There are just so many layers to this

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freaking episode that it is difficult to capture it all

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in one viewing, would you guys.

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Agree, Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree that.

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I mean, just so much going on, huge stakes involved

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for these characters that we have barely started to get

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to know. I mean, granted, I know these episode seasons

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are short now, but it's just wow, did they just

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go crazy with this episode and just dropped a bomb

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on us?

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Yeah? For sure.

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I mean, it definitely turns the idea of feeling safe

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on its head. Right, Like, for the past five episodes,

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I feel like there's been some some turmoil, but it's

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had a pretty pretty sharp focus on kind of the

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educational nature of it, the dynamics within the student body

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and things like that. The second viewing made me look

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at Tamira's character in a different way. We knew that

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she had the you know, being a bit iszoid with

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the implant in her neck that was kind of subduing

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her abilities, but the fact that they kind of start

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in this intimate moment and she opens up to Mirror

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and lets her guard down to a place where she

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wants him to feel safe with her and she us

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to feel safe in doing so. There's a lot of

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that dynamic that plays throughout this episode, right Like the

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entire student body is probably feeling like, all right, we're

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pretty safe with each other, and then it gets quickly

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thrown into life and death circumstances and seeing Tamira as

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possibly a threat, not necessarily like a villainous one, but

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one that's I would think after the burn and kind

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of the nature of that, that she'd be very worried

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about how people are perceiving her and how she's kind

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of carrying herself.

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Is that fair?

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Yeah, I think so.

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And then paralleling that with Captain Ake and Braka knowing

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absolutely it is not safe for this guy to be

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anywhere near them, let alone on board, let alone trusted

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for some kind of a mission, and that's set up

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for a space where it feels like it's not going

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to change their relationship. It's not that he's going to

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turn into somebody that anybody feels safe with, but at

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least they feel like they're bargaining for some kind of

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a situation.

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That they can manage.

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And that absolutely falls apart, and yeah, like you said,

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Empire strikes back, Like everything falls apart at the end

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of this episode, and you're just going to have left

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reeling at the end of it.

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In the credits room.

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You know, as much as happens in this episode, as

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many powerful scenes that there are, I have to say

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the one on one battling was the best.

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Of it all.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Their performances onto each other was just absolutely stunning and

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was a clinic.

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On performing, especially for Star Trek.

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The villainous Barca that Paul Dumonti plays, and I'm going

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to say it right now, is almost as good as

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Con at this point and we've only known him barely,

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and I love what they have done and what Pauldumonny

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has brought to this performance.

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He is nomenal like when he.

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Was, and he's almost playful with Nallah, like he knows

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that he's getting under her skin. Every word that he says,

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he knows it's that's happening. And the mere fact that

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as you're watching this episode you are you think, okay,

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Broca's got her, and then when it kind of turns

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a little bit, you realize Nala was playing with him.

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But then when you get to the end, you're like,

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oh god, Braca got him in at the end all

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this time, you know, and my jaw dropped when that happened.

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I'm like, are you freaking kidding me because I didn't

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see that coming.

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I didn't. And then that whole ending.

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Where he left a message for her was just that

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salt in the wound man that he knows he got her,

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not just in that moment of what you have, he

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tricked her, but overall playing a chess game here, he

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just uh, he just took the board.

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Well, I mean, like it's interesting.

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It might be because I'm so fresh off of DS nine,

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but he almost has kind of Cardassian sensibilities.

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You know what I mean, Like his.

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His making every conversation a chess game and kind of manipulated,

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manipulative abilities. It felt very Kardassian for a while.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean we've been anticipating this episode for

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a while because you know, we even guessed that he

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would return. We've been waiting for his return. You know,

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both him and Holly Hunter are the two actors, the

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two seasoned actors in this series that you know, we

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are most familiar with, and I think I was looking

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forward to more scenes with them, and we really got

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them here in this episode. I'm glad we did. Those

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were I agree with you, David, those were my favorite

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favorite scenes. You know that this was a really really

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heavy episode, but it was one that was greatly needed

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to push this series along because, you know, so far

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other than just the the whole Starfleet Academy antics, we

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really hadn't known what the actual storyline for this first season,

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and we knew there had to be one. I mean,

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they do it all with all modern trek, there's always

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gotta be a continuing storyline, and we knew this series

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was no different. This finally gives us, gives us an

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idea of a little idea, a little hint about where

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this show is going now. There's only so much classroom,

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just you storytelling you can do before you have to,

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you know, get those students out in the school and

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get the story moving. But this was really brutal, really

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brutal on the characters. You know, talk about getting thrown

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into the fire right away, a lot of emotions happening.

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But I loved the episode. It was incredible, gripping all

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the way.

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Through well, and it definitely leaves you in a place

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where you're kind of wondering what might happen to the

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Academy after this, because they had just opened negotiations with

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Beta Z to even talk with them, let alone allowed

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to two of their citizens to be part of the Academy.

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And then there's this kind of a situation when the

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Academy hasn't been opened that long, so it's it's bound

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to open up some questions about the viability of it,

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the appropriateness of it, and how much Chancellor Ake is

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going to be allowed to run things the way that

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she wants to. It seems like it's going to be

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very intense. I hope it doesn't. I mean, it could

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make for good episodes for it to get into that

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kind of tense, you know, tense kind of place, but

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I just don't I hope it doesn't have better immifications

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for the school itself.

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Yeah, but it's really up the stakes to the series

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and for the characters, and I like that. I like

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the idea that this isn't just going to be a

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simple Starfleet Academy series, you know, where we're.

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Just watching the students being taught to their antics.

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I like this, this this challenge that they've been given,

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this this this new storyline. I'm looking forward to the

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rest of the season now to find out what happens.

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And I hope we get both those characters together again

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in the final episode.

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Other than that, that's happening, no doubt, and I'm sure

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we're probably not gonna see him.

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Again until the finale.

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Yeah, I guess yeah, because I feel like they don't

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want to beat that to death obviously, But you know,

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it's just it's just as much as going on in

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this episode, you still have the magic of it. And

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I say magic because it still has some Harry Potter

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vibes for crying out loud. The mere fact that they

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use a comic book, Tails from the Frontier to help

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push the world building that they're doing in this in

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this series was phenomenal. And how they use that comic

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book on the Miyazaki to get it to understand that

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the crew was dead and it had to interact with

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this new crew to turn on to start reacting so

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that they could get out of there.

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Was just such a nice touch for that.

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It was just I didn't see that coming at all either,

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And I'm like, that is really cool on how they

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went about that.

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And a whole new level Holograms Gate can get hurt

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now because family was taken out.

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Yeah, that surprised me a lot. I thought that, you know,

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with her ability to kind of phase in other situations.

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I thought they would use that to some kind of effect.

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But yeah, I was surprised to see that she's gent

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onely knocked out, but she's in like critical condition.

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Well that makes me wonder because you know, this is

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something they haven't really explored. I never thought about this,

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but you know, the doctor always needed to have his

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mobile admitter during Star Trek Voyager to be able to

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even just leave the sick bay, and I guess they

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really haven't explored whether or not or what's going on

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with him and why he's able to move around. But

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what about her? I mean, is there some sort of

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a physical item that's allowing her to exist, kind of

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like the will emitter or remember, David, You'll remember when

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Red Dwarf character of Rimmer had had a little thing

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that would spin around, but there was something physical, something

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actual physical, that would that would create the hologram. I

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wonder if it's been damaged, because I was actually rather happy,

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surprised but happy to see that it wasn't just an

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instant fix at the end of this episode. Right, So

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I'm curious. It's it's keeping me hanging on this series.

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I want to see next episode find out what's going

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to happen to any of these characters now?

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And let's not forget how creepy the Furies are. Oh

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my god.

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Yeah yeah, those were really well shot, like yeah, kind

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of distorted, like almost like.

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They're out of phase.

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personal shield or like a face covering or something like that.

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It reminded me of the Reavers.

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It did quite a bit, like when they were talking

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about like the human hybrid with some kind of unknown

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species that I had never heard of before, some kind

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of bat.

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Like, yeah, yep, you heard of it before I have.

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I'll get into it in the the Easter Eggs.

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You know, the King of the Easter Eggs. He's got it.

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Don't worry, it's all good. How about the really dramatic

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and creepy score that we were provided.

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In this, Yes, yes, that was fantastic.

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It was.

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I mean, it took it or it took it to

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a whole new level in this And it feels like

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every episode this composer is just topping themselves every episode.

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I mean Jeff Russo, he's he's fantastic and I loved

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his work and Discovery, but he is just on a

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completely different level here in this this series. I hope

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they bring out a soundtrack this this season.

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I do too.

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It's it's definitely a leveling up.

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Like I feel like every episode is getting better and

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better as it goes on. And I know there's a

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lot of people that are, you know, split, I guess

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in other ways, But it's our show, so we're gonna

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talk about it in the way we want to.

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And how much we love that's exactly.

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But like the the casting, the acting, the writing, the score,

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the effects, like it seems like a setting it up,

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setting itself up for a good long run.

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And I hope you get the benefit of seeing that.

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Yes, And I don't know if you guys have seen anything.

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And we're still talking about this episode and stuff like that.

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But the fact that Holly Hunter is getting picked on

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for her her performance as knowledge just drives me.

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Up that that's that's ridiculous.

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She is doing an absolutely phenomenal job. I love her

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in the show, blowing it away, and I I don't

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see why anyone would attack that because it's perfect.

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Yeah, I mean, I feel like, go ahead, Dave, no,

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it's gonna say just this episode alone on how her

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performance was up against Paul Giomanni just shows right there

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the scale of an actor that she is.

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Yeah, Well, when you talk about like the first viewing

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versus the second viewing, the first viewing, I felt myself

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kind of getting whiplash a little bit, like I was

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just trying to fight to keep up because it was

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like the station two high for me to like look

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away and pay attention to something else. But in the

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second viewing, when you talk about her dynamic with Paul Giamatti,

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knowing the kind of person that Captain ak is, how

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she conducts herself, how she walks through the academy, how

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she talks with people, you see her change when his

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name is mentioned, even as a possibility. It's almost like

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you see this big shift in her. I thought there

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was a brilliant shot of her approach to Braka when

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they were about to kind of, you know, open up

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the air lock and let him in.

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I noticed that she was wearing shoes.

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This time, and you see her whole demeter change to something.

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It was a bit nervous, yep.

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And definitely guarded, which is complete opposite of how we

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see her in other episodes. I think she's doing a

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brilliant job. And the fact that we've got this kind

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of star power aligned with with Star Trek and then

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seeing them take that further than we could have hoped

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for is brilliant.

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You know. And on that note, Scott, that you mentioned,

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and how her whole demeanor.

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Changes, just in that first scene where Vance, her and

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Bronco are all there, how she's sitting there almost timid

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by Bronca the entire time, as Vance is kind of

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controlling the conversation at first, right until he leaves, and

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then Broca's attention turns to her for the most part,

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and she's still kind of like almost nervous and anxiety

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because she's here dealing with him and with their history

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they already have, and you're almost like, she a completely

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different person here. Just watch her if you go watch

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it again, just watch her on how she is actually

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like a completely different person than she has been at

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the Academy.

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Well, I'm gonna pause this real quick because I think

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we have a lot to talk about here. Let's take

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a quick and when we come back, we're going to

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unpack that a little bit more and then get into

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some of our favorite moments because I'm sure there's a

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bunch we are back.

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And we're back.

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So, Dave, what of that kind of picking up where

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you had left off talking about the changes at her

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demeanor and kind of the you know, how they were

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kind of conducting themselves with each other. I thought it

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was interesting how he was always trying to put her

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in kind of a lower or subservient kind of position

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just by sitting down. Yeah, he's getting so close in

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her face. I imagine her first thought is going to

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be breath mint, but like he's just so uncomfortably close,

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and he completely gets into her space and her backstory.

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We hadn't heard that about her son before.

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Correct, Well, we knew something had happened to her some,

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but not to the death that Braka brought it.

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Out right, And he I don't know how much, Like

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it's hard to know how much he actually knew and

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how much he was manipulating when he's kind of surprised

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to hear that mirror is on the other ship.

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I think he's doing He's.

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Definitely doing both. He's definitely manipulating her.

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Tell right, But I don't I didn't know if he had,

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like for knowledge that he already knows that mirror is

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on the other ship, and he's just kind of acting

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to say like, oh, he's over there, isn't he?

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Yeah, that hope. The whole change of his attitudes, Like

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when he was talking to her, he goes, wait a.

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Minute, is he over there on that ship? Like almost

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like he knows, but he's just like playing with her. Yeah.

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Yeah, he's an amazing villain that I don't know. I

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didn't expect him to have that kind of depth in it.

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I thought it might be one of the you know,

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standard episodes that we see where they have to get

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like the enemy of my enemy. I like where she

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has that line where she says, is still another enemy,

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like let's not be friends here.

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That he'd be used to this effect.

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I thought it would be one of the episodes where

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he's kind of, you know, used by Starfleet and then

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they're able to find a way to you know, get

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kind of an advantage on him or something like that.

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But it didn't go that way at all. I feel

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like he was just manipulating everything the entire time.

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Absolutely he was, and you don't know that till you

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get to the end and you're like, oh, I'm a bitch.

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He's such a great ahole, Like, yeah, everything that he

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was like, it didn't need to do any.

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Of that right.

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Matter of fact, I even think I screamed at the

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TV you said up a bit and realized what had happened.

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Right well, and he has all these like he has

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such contempt for Starfleet. It's not even really hatred. It's

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just like you guys. Like that line that he talks

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about bureaucratic chlamydia. Yeah, I was just like, oh my god,

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this guy's had things festering for a while.

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But there there is that hatred.

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He even says in his perfect message, it's to Tanada,

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I hate you. He literally says that, So I mean, wow, you.

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Damn he really feel.

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He's definitely a new type of villain, a very good villain.

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I'm glad that we're getting someone like this. You brought

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up similarities to con I'm glad because it's really hard

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to create a good villain like this. We saw one

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with the on the card with Amanda Plumber's character. He's fantastic.

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I please please don't kill him off at the end

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of the season. That's all I can say, because I

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want to see more of him.

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I will like I do like what they did, and

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it kind of breaks my heart. Even though our producer

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doesn't like the character Bobby, but I liked what they

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did here, and I guess I should have kind of

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taken the hint that he was going to get killed

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when he used box line the needs of the many

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outweigh the needs of the view or the one. I

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should have known right then and there. I'm like, oh, God,

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are dead. I should have got I should have got it.

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I didn't. But I like the fact that, like he

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is a jerk. I mean, he's a vulcan for crying

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out loud, and he's part of the war College. Okay,

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I get it. But he started to grow on you

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during this episode. Yeah, and I was really liking him,

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and he he started working as a team player with

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everybody on that bridge to get it figured out and

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to take the was it butterflies or whatever it was?

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Butterflies?

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Yeah, yeah, tiny fireflies and how they were using that

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and he knew what that meant and how he started

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working fluidly with Caleb, and then when he sacrifices himself

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for Caleb was just, oh man, that's that's rough.

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That's Star Trek going to a whole new level.

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Here.

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Yeah, and you thought a card doing it, but you

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didn't expect it.

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Here.

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I want to bring up, you know that they're doing

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using their secondary cast really well here, and there's quite

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a few of those characters, but I'm starting to I'm

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afraid to get attached to any of these secondary characters now,

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you know, with him, I love the idea of a

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vaulted reading comic books. I thought that was fantastic. It's

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something I'd never thought of before, and I think that's now.

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I hope we get that comic book. I d W

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comic You need to need to bring that out because

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I would love to see even digitally. But then you

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had the you know, I had the character of Commander Tomov,

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I think is what it was. I was starting to

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like him, but then he gets shoved out an airlock,

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so you know, forget about him. And and and another

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one I want to bring up. And I don't know

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what this character's name is, but it's the the girl

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that swallowed her combadge. You know, Yeah, we see her

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again too. I really like just that little bit, the

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fact that that she starts to panic over it, you know,

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because maybe I like the idea and if I'm wrong,

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you know, I'll admit it when it comes up to this,

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But I like the idea that maybe not everybody's cut

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out for Starfleet Academy. It's true, Yeah, because I mean

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that that would be true. I mean, and she seems

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like she might not be cut out for it. But

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I like the idea of having a character that's that's

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eating in that direction.

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I like how fuck handled that situation too. She quickly

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went over reacted, didn't panic, just said medical bay, and

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just pointed I think you're out of here, you.

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Know, and and doesn't scold her, doesn't does not scold.

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I think it's acknowledging possibly some neurodivergence they're in Pickford

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and saying like, well, not everybody in Starfleet Academy is

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going to be built for these kind of situations, like

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they'll be trained for it, but knowing that there's there's

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various places for different cadets to go. And yeah, I

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think that that performer does an amazing job. We've seen

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those kind of things like hints of that in the

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earlier episodes. And yeah, I hope Cadet Pittford continues to

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get some attention there too.

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But yeah, I mean, I Wayne, I agree with you.

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You mentioned that last episode on how the second part

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of the cast here. They do it every week and

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they're doing such a phenomenal job with it, and you're right.

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I really hope.

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They continue this because it feels like everybody's part of

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the main cast when they're not.

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But it feels like it.

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Right, But it opens a lot more and you have

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more of a range of stories you can explore, open

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up that cast. I feel like one of my favorite

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parts of this was getting the more of the in

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depth story around Trema Yeah, and what's going on with her.

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I love the fact that they have is it Oakum

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Sadel the other.

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He was the he was the mascot.

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Her brother, isn't it?

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Oh yeah? I think so? Yeah?

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00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:40.559
Yeah, that both of them are in the Academy and

475
00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:44.440
we get kind of their shared perspective on what's happening

476
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.559
with her. I thought it was fascinating that backstory that

477
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:52.920
talks about blowing out her dad's auditory cortext when she

478
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:56.759
got angry and had that kind of burn adjacent moment

479
00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.000
when she let out that giant scream, and I was like,

480
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:01.799
what is going to happen here? Like there could be

481
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:07.440
big ramifications throughout, but the fact that they handled that

482
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:09.359
in such a way that it like they didn't have

483
00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:10.440
to explain.

484
00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:11.400
That when we first met her father.

485
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.359
Yeah, they were just using sound landers to communicate, and

486
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:19.960
I don't know, it's I was also shocked to see

487
00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:22.480
her kind of rip out that implant. That was a

488
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.160
pretty visceral way to do so.

489
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.759
I don't I don't remember her exact line, but she

490
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:32.039
said that to Case. She said to calab right before

491
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.519
she did the scream. It was something along the lines

492
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.960
of I hope you forgive me for about what I'm

493
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.680
about to do, or you know, something along those lines,

494
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:42.400
and then she just lets that scream out and just.

495
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:44.559
Rips the furies apart.

496
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.240
Yeah, that was like, man, we've not seen this in

497
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:50.720
Star Trek either. This is kind of crazy and it's

498
00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:53.759
just like, just wow, I cannot believe I am watching

499
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:55.279
this in Star Trek.

500
00:25:55.480 --> 00:26:00.559
Yeah, and it really makes me interested in what's going

501
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.119
on or what what has happened to the Beta Z's

502
00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.440
because we've never seen power to that scale with them.

503
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:07.960
I mean, we definitely didn't see it with Troy.

504
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:08.920
But yeah, were you at Deena?

505
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:09.240
Come on?

506
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.240
Yeah, I mean but you know, now I look back,

507
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:14.680
this made the episode made me look back and think about,

508
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:18.000
you know, all the episodes with Beta zend we really

509
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:20.759
they really didn't go very in depth into that race,

510
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:23.920
you know, so all we know they may have these

511
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:26.000
type of powers. I do remember there was a character

512
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:29.200
there was a big az on voyager, Brad Dwarff's character.

513
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:29.839
I was sooner.

514
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.759
I believe it's a character's name. He also exhibited some

515
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:37.640
weird powers too. So I hope they go a little

516
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:39.720
more deeper, and I think they will. I think that's

517
00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:42.319
where they're leading to more deeper with Beta Z and

518
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:44.599
her character, because I'd like, I want to know more

519
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:46.240
about this. I wonder what's going on here.

520
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.200
Well, so I was kind of wonder how.

521
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:53.599
Their news stance after the burn may have had an

522
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:57.720
impact on the nature of Beta Zed in general, Like

523
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:01.720
if they had always been a species that you know,

524
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:04.960
reaches out to other planets and is very open, being

525
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:10.160
empathic by nature, if they become isolationists and shut themselves

526
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.880
off from the rest of the galaxy, does that have

527
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:16.400
a physiological impact on them? And as maybe a terrema,

528
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:20.480
maybe one of many that might be impacted in this way.

529
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:23.400
I mean, they have the technology, so it stands to

530
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:25.480
reason there might be others like her.

531
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:26.960
Well, that's what I'm thinking too.

532
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.839
I maybe she's like the next evolution type of person,

533
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.599
you know, maybe their race is starting to butt out,

534
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.279
and it could be something you know, related like to

535
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:37.640
the burn or to their isolation or whatever I wanted

536
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.480
to where. That's why I'm hoping they explore that story

537
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:41.079
more deeply.

538
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:42.279
Yeah.

539
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:44.119
I feel like in that line, David, that you were

540
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:47.240
talking about, I feel like she hints at that way,

541
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.799
at that idea. She doesn't want him to not feel

542
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:53.200
safe with her, Yeah, and she doesn't want to feel

543
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.440
safe with herself. Like it's very much kind of like

544
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:58.559
that you know, frozen elsa kind of like, you know,

545
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.000
hold all these kind of things back, right, because if

546
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.319
you let it out, then it changes how everybody sees

547
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.599
you and it has this horrible.

548
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.039
Effect on the world.

549
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.680
I'll be very interested to see what happens with her

550
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.599
during her coma. I'm assuming that's going to carry it

551
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:20.240
through into the next episode and afterward, like how people

552
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:21.519
are going to look at her. It's almost like a

553
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:23.119
Jene Gray kind of effect, right.

554
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:25.160
I never thought of it that way.

555
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.480
Yeah, I mean, think of all the things that they've

556
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:29.440
left as a cliffhanger at the end of this episode,

557
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.440
Bobby's dead, Sam is injured somehow in a coma.

558
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:34.240
Maybe we don't know.

559
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.880
Tarama's in a coma, We don't know. A federation a

560
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.640
star Fleet ship just got blown up, and Braka escaped,

561
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.960
and Braca stole something from that space station that we

562
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.279
have no idea what he took, and you have the

563
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.039
secret of what was going on in that space station.

564
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.359
So there is so much at the end of this

565
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.200
episode that you're like, man, they've got so much to explain.

566
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.759
Yes, yeah, I'm curious as to what he did steal.

567
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:01.960
Find me a lot of what happened with on Star

568
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.480
Trek card too, m you know where they had to

569
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:06.440
you know, they stole something and we didn't know until

570
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:07.839
episodes later. I think that we're going to get the

571
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.440
same situation here. Yeah, probably not to all the end

572
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:12.119
of the season, right, yeah, yep.

573
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.680
And probably more Con parallels, right.

574
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.400
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I feel like he would.

575
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:20.799
I feel like Brocket would empathize with CON's line where

576
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:22.559
he says, I don't want to kill you, I want

577
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:23.079
to hurt.

578
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.400
You, and I want to go on hurting you like,

579
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:32.680
ew uh, gonna be very interesting rest of the season.

580
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:34.200
Yeah, I know.

581
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:36.599
And what's crazy is I mean he does kind of

582
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:39.079
have a con thing going on because he's doing a

583
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.359
lot of this to protect people in that sector that

584
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.319
he's in right, that he's in charge of that, you know.

585
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.920
So he is a bad guy, and this is what

586
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.480
makes great villains. You kind of feel for them. You

587
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:54.799
kind of understand the angle they're coming at. You don't

588
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:56.559
agree with the end result of what they're doing, of

589
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.720
killing people and stuff like that, but you have all

590
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.680
these layers, this depth of of a villain which makes

591
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:05.119
them so good and you want to learn more about him.

592
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:09.160
That is why Broca is so good in this series exactly.

593
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:13.039
Yeah, because he believes that the universe can work without

594
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:16.000
the Federation and it's better off without it. So he

595
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.119
wants to make a point of that as much as

596
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.599
he can, aside from undercutting and you know, getting back

597
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.599
at the people who you know he sees his wrong Ahim.

598
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:32.279
Thank you, Paul Jamadi, Holly Hunter, thanks for all this

599
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:33.119
cast coming together.

600
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:38.160
Absolutely, any other moments we want to talk about. We

601
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.279
hit the mother load here, we did, I think so.

602
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.440
Okay, well, Uh, an interesting question we always ask, and

603
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:50.880
I'm curious to hear the thoughts on which crew member

604
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:52.759
do you believe shine the most?

605
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:53.960
David, Let's start with you.

606
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:58.119
I'm cheating. He's not a crew member, and without question,

607
00:30:58.240 --> 00:30:59.000
it's nice Braca.

608
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:00.000
Uh.

609
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.680
He stands among the best villains Star Trek has produced

610
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.400
since KHN and Paul Giamatti is absolutely at the top

611
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:09.400
of his game in this performance. His hatred simmers just

612
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.799
beneath the surface, and he makes no effort to hide

613
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.799
how thoroughly he's manipulating both Nala and Starfleet. At the

614
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:20.160
same time, his personal animosity toward Nala is unmistakable. Braco

615
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.119
will do whatever it takes to achieve his goal in

616
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.319
this episode fully showcases him as a master of deception

617
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:29.759
and psychological warfare. I'm telling you, guys, and I cannot

618
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.799
speak highly enough of how good Paul Giamatti is in

619
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.200
this role. And I know we typically talk about the

620
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:41.400
crew in this spot, but I cannot deny Nospraka was

621
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:43.799
phenomenal in this episode.

622
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.440
I'll allow it. That's a great answer, Thank you, Wayne.

623
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:49.000
What about you?

624
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:52.720
Oh well, yeah, this it was a hard one to

625
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:55.920
pick just because There's so much happening to so many

626
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.279
of these characters in this episode, but I have to

627
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.400
give this one to Terima. You know, she she really

628
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:07.079
breaks through being just another character who spends most of

629
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.359
her time in the background like she has and gets

630
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:15.119
a chance to show real strength here. Her character opens up,

631
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.240
but not just to Caleb, it to the old audience.

632
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.359
Shows a power that we've never seen before. But in

633
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.680
my opinion, she's the one that has the most character

634
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.319
growth in this episode. I think she sits a move

635
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.480
from someone with a lot of self doubt bulnabent ability

636
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:35.480
to a cadet with a lot of confidence Zoe Steiner.

637
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.759
She just did an exceptional job in this episode, I think,

638
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.079
and I hope that her character is able to recover

639
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:42.519
and we see her more of her.

640
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.839
I really do, and.

641
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:46.160
She is absolutely adorable.

642
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:47.079
She really is.

643
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:51.240
She is well and she has I I'll go with Wayne.

644
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:56.680
I picked Terrima as well. I think in terms of

645
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:01.200
in our personal relationships, her willingness to open up to

646
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.799
Mirror and to take him to that kind of dream

647
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:08.839
fasting or whatever you call it where they could kind of,

648
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.319
you know, go out into the field where she felt

649
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:16.160
safe and opening up in that way and then accepting

650
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.519
him later, like knowing that he was just scared by

651
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.480
it and that he reacted in a really dense, stupid way,

652
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.839
but accepting him back and saying like, I understand it's scary.

653
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.279
I'm scared of myself. I want you to feel safe

654
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:35.720
with me. And she's giving all of that up. She's

655
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.160
ripping her implant, which is probably not like a you know,

656
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:43.519
a day in med Bay had affix, and she's showing

657
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:48.680
everybody just how powerful and scary she can be, which

658
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.440
might change the tenor of how all the students react

659
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:56.160
around her, probably walking on eggshells, possibly and risking her

660
00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:02.119
ability to stay in Starflight Academy, possible harming the Betazoid

661
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:05.200
relationship with the Federation to saying, you know what, we

662
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.519
were right, we were better off beingn isolationists. Forget that

663
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:11.639
we're shutting it down. But she knows what's at steak

664
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.159
as she doesn't, and she she gives all up.

665
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:14.960
For her crew.

666
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.360
You know, I'm glad you brought this up early, because

667
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.280
I never really thought about this this parallel, but she does.

668
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:21.199
Her character and what.

669
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:22.639
They're going with it reminds me a lot of the

670
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.679
Gene Great Phoenix type of storyline and the X Men.

671
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.360
And I'm afraid that after this, if she does recover

672
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.360
and returns to the academy, they're not going to look

673
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.119
at her different or look at her the same. They're

674
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.119
they're going to be different. And I'm curious as to

675
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.159
how the other students are going to react around her

676
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:40.639
from now on.

677
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:44.760
Well in the possibility of them thinking that is a

678
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:48.800
betazoid thing, not a Terema thing. Right, she might be

679
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.199
one of several she might be completely unique with this,

680
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.800
but what if she's not. Yeah, and we don't know

681
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:59.559
a lot about betas n and what has changed about

682
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:03.480
it now, so that might change how they kind of

683
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:06.920
approach those kind of relationships. I would think that they're

684
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.800
going to be more open minded just by nature of

685
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:14.559
the organization to not go that path. But I think

686
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:19.960
it's a possibility. And yeah, that's a that's a serious proposition. Yeah,

687
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:21.920
I feel like this next question is going to be

688
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.079
kind of tricky in this episode.

689
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:25.599
Depends on you look at it.

690
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:28.440
Who would you want to be, Dave.

691
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:31.199
Well, my mine's not gonna be triggering because for one,

692
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:34.920
this actor is never around, well he is around, but

693
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.480
he's around as a vision or as a transport whatever

694
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:39.000
you call him.

695
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:40.480
Where the hell is Vance?

696
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.480
The guy is always there, but he's safe somewhere else

697
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:48.079
at all times. Yeah, so I want to be vanced

698
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:51.360
in this episode because he is laid back somewhere on

699
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.719
the couch, just having a drink, having a good old

700
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:57.920
time while while the Athena is getting the it's ass

701
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.400
kicked and some of its cadets are getting killed, which

702
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:03.880
is not a funny thing, but uh yeah, I would

703
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:04.199
like to.

704
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.159
Be I feel like maybe he shares an office with

705
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.840
Dean Stockwell, yeah, we're going to see him show up

706
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:15.400
with with this like you know, uh fruit stripe kind

707
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.880
of you know, trycorder looking thing talking to.

708
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.800
Wayne what about you? Oh gosh.

709
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:26.000
With with everything that happens to this episode, most of

710
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:27.679
it doesn't end very pleasant.

711
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:31.880
For any of them. But I guess the character that I'm.

712
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.599
Going to choose, because I mean, most of them either

713
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:39.280
end up dead, coma tous or betrayed. I'm going to

714
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:44.599
say Braka only because he plays ACKI and the cadets

715
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:48.320
like ponds in a in a game of chess, and

716
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:50.000
he got what he wanted in the end.

717
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.599
So sometime the asshole wins and I'll go along with that.

718
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:55.840
Wow, two of us have gone for the villain in

719
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:57.320
this episode. Look at us.

720
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.880
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna use my cheat since Davis

721
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:06.599
allowed his, and say no one. There is nobody I

722
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:11.519
envy in this episode. At one point I thought about

723
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:18.519
choosing Sam again because she has a fascinating interaction with Miyazaki,

724
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:21.920
which is another Easter egg that gives the love to

725
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:26.679
illustrated storytelling, which I always love. I think Genesis has

726
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:29.760
a great moment where she's able to kind of figure

727
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:33.000
out how to work around the cloak, but but nobody

728
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:35.159
ends up on top. So I'll just take a pass

729
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:35.880
on this one and.

730
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:42.960
Say except came a boom.

731
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.079
Well, now I think we'll open it up to the

732
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:48.400
King of Easter Eggs and Wayne, what kind of things

733
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:50.599
did you did you see that nobody else did?

734
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:53.159
Before he gets going for it, I'm taking a couple

735
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:54.280
because he's gonna be all over this.

736
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:55.039
I do it.

737
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:56.840
I want to call out to the fact that they

738
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:01.239
use the uss Miyazaki in honor of the Japanese animator

739
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:06.199
Io Miyazaki of Studio Ghibili. I love that they're doing this.

740
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.880
Remember Strange New Worlds did that last season. Uh for

741
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.119
a great actor. Uh. So they did that again here

742
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.440
and I love the fact that they did that here.

743
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.199
And if anybody doesn't know Miyazaki's work, I'm sure that

744
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.920
you do. You just don't realize it yet. On the

745
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.039
Sky Spirited Away and there's a bunch of other ones

746
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:26.400
out there that he has done. But speaking of the

747
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:33.480
Miyazaki itself, that Strange New Worlds Enterprise just redressed you.

748
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:35.960
They do that, done that many many times over all

749
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.599
the Star Trek they have those sets.

750
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:41.079
Ye, Now go Wayne, go for well.

751
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.119
I mean, this episode was a really busy one, so

752
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.639
there really wasn't that many Easter eggs that I felt

753
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.599
worth pointing out. But I gotta say that I think

754
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:52.920
this episode is actually busy creating new mythology for future

755
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.119
Star Trek episodes to use his oster eggs. I mean,

756
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:57.280
that's that's my opinion of it. But there are a

757
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.320
couple of them that that I did point out. There

758
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:04.800
was a Zendi insectoid on the Athena Bridge. The Zendy

759
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.199
were the main batties during the third season of Star

760
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:09.800
Trek Enterprise, and it's nice to see that they kind

761
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.719
of are possibly made friends with the Federations.

762
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:14.559
So you know, we're getting.

763
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.159
A little bit of love from Enterprise, which brings me

764
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:23.800
to Braca removing He removed one of Aki's models from

765
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:26.599
her shelf, and it was then XO one, which of

766
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:29.719
course is Captain Archer's Enterprise got a very good, good

767
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.960
close up of it this time. And finally, and this

768
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:36.679
is the one I brought up earlier. Those Furies are

769
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:41.159
part Linar, which was a bat like species from Setis three,

770
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:45.239
which is the planet that Bicard, Beverly, and Wharf were

771
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.199
sent on a secret mission. And Picard is captured by

772
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:50.679
the Kardassians and forced to look at the four Lights

773
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:56.119
in Command part one, and they mentioned and see those

774
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:59.880
bats during the first part of that two part story,

775
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:01.440
so that's where they came from.

776
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:03.280
Interesting good cats.

777
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:08.760
Damn Yeah, yeah.

778
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.800
Well, I think how many episodes do we have left? Three? Four?

779
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:11.280
Four?

780
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.880
I think we're we're in for more great episodes with

781
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.039
not a lot of runway to go. I have a

782
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.920
feeling there's not going to be many lighthearted ones.

783
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:24.119
No left.

784
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:29.000
The next one kind of looks not lighthearted, but not

785
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.280
quite as as dark and deep as this one.

786
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:32.559
They actually gave us a little blurb.

787
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.480
It's called cosine, which is a very odd spelled drug

788
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:39.960
ko apostrophe z.

789
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:44.400
It doesnt sound like it does, but.

790
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:51.199
The official paramount blurb for it is during a school holiday,

791
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:56.440
cadets return home and must choose between family expectations and dreams.

792
00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:57.960
So it looks like we're going to learn a little

793
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.039
bit about the families and backgrounds.

794
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:01.320
Of some of the that's the next episode.

795
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:04.639
Oh interesting, It could be something similar to that next

796
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:06.920
duration episode after Best of Both the World when Picard

797
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:07.320
came home.

798
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.719
Hey, I didn't think of that. You're right, yes, that

799
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:11.519
that I bet it's very similar to that. Give us

800
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:13.639
a little bit of a break relief in this episode

801
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:15.840
before the big startup starts to hit.

802
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:16.960
Yeah, exactly.

803
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.360
I wonder if there's gonna be some a little bit

804
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.480
more depth into the photonic race that Sam.

805
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:23.719
Is part of.

806
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:24.519
I hope.

807
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:27.159
So, right, if they're if they're trying to figure out

808
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.039
how to you know, heal her, and if it's you know, hard.

809
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:32.320
To do, then they might have to kind of open

810
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:32.960
up talks there.

811
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:35.480
That's a good call. I didn't think of that too. Yeah,

812
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.039
that would be it. That'd be interesting.

813
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:41.639
Well, this has been an amazing episode and I'm glad

814
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.480
we were able to talk about it. I'll probably end

815
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.880
up going to watch it a third time here.

816
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.039
Thank you both as always, gentlemen.

817
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.239
Yeah, you're always, always a pleasure, and we'll be back

818
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:56.920
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They took the bait bone appetite, so cross