Feb. 11, 2026

Phasers Set To Stun: Starfleet Academy S1.E5 Series Acclimation Mil

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Season 7

On Phasers Set To Stun, we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more!

This year marks the 60th anniversary of Star Trek and we've got an exciting new series to watch! Wayne, David, and Scott will be discussing plots, sharing their favorite characters, and revealing all the Easter eggs within Star Trek: Starfleet Academy!

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello, listeners, and welcome back to a new episode of

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Phasers Set to Stunt, where we continue to show our

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love for everything Star Trek in this ongoing series from

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a film by podcast which focuses on every system of

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the expanding Star Trek universe by covering television, movies, animation, directors, merchandise,

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and much much more. Plotting your course on this voyage

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is your Core Trek crew. I'm Wayne Whited, and I'm

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Skoy Hoffmann, and now I'm David Burns, and today we're

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discussing an all new episode of Star Trek. Starfleet Academy

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Episode five titles series Acclamation Mill was written by Kirsten

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Bayer and Tonny Newsom and directed by Larry Teng. So

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from this point forward, it's red alert, folks, there are

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spoilers ahead. If you haven't seen this episode, please stop

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and beam yourself to the nearest view screen to catch

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it on Paramount Plus. Then come back and rejoin us

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for this discussion. Hey David, why don't you give us

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the short summary of the episode?

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I think I might series.

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Acclamation Mill, better known as Sam, continues her mission around

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the Academy, having been sent by her makers to gain

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a deeper understanding organics so they can better learn how

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to interact with them. Under increasing pressure to meet their

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domaining expectations, Sam stumbled upon the legacy of a famed

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in its theory from me years past, Benjamin Cisco, as

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an emissary herself. Sam feels an immediate connection to Cisco

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and becomes driven to understand who he truly was, where

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he disappeared to and whether he should be considered a god.

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She embarks on this deeply personal journey alongside her close friends,

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which leads her to a virtual visit to the Benjamin

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Cisco Museum filled with touching easter eggs longtime fans will

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instantly recognize. Along the way, Sam uncovers more pieces of

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Cisco's story, including an inner encounter with Jake, Cisco's immage

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delivering a speech, and a professor with profound personal lot.

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Ties to Benjamin himself.

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Ultimately, this episode stands as a true love letter to

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Deep Space nine and to the incredible impact Benjamin Cisco

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had not only on Starfleet and the crew of DS nine,

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but on all of Beijor.

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Let me start off by first making the comment that

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I'm glad that we did our review of Deep Space

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nine just before we started Starfleet Academy because of society.

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We had no idea this was coming. But that was

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great timing in our part.

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It was almost that we knew, right, it was almost

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that we knew this was happening, but we didn't. I

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problems if it weren't perfect.

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Well, when Tony called us and said, you know, this

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is what's going on, I wanted you to know right

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after Sarak.

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Yeah, And in fact, one of the episodes we dove

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into is uh you know the doctor kind of minched

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it in this episode.

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Was like, yeah, okay, Yeah.

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There were quite a few of them that we put

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in our top tens for those seasons that are referenced

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in this episode.

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So it's good.

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Yeah, I mean, we we all we all love Deep

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Space sign it was. It was a great series, and

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I'm glad to see that it's getting all this recognition,

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and I know there's a lot to talk about on

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this episode. So I'll let you guys tell me what

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you thought.

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Yeah, this was to me when I'm glad that you

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said what you said, because this was the day the

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President that arrives on your porch on Christmas, the day

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after Christmas Day, because I think we were talking about

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last week's episode being a love letter to DS nine.

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Yep, the whole week last week.

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I was like, where's it going to be? Where's where's

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the stuff? And it didn't arrive and I'm like, Okay,

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that's disappointing.

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And then when this.

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One arrives and it's like, oh my god, I got

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a bike for Christmas. So yeah, I thought it was

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a great episode.

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I tell you, I did not know Tawny was involved

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with this at all.

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I didn't either, and I love that.

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So when her name popped up and I'm like, oh cool,

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Tony wrote to help write this. And then I realized

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when I did some research and really she has a

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deep love of Deep Deep Space nine. And then as

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I was watching episode, was like, wait a minute, wait

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a minute.

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Is that Tawny? Holy crap it is.

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I was looking through the makeup like I knew nothing

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about this episode, so from here, no expectations, and then

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I could kind of see some glimmers of Tawny through

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the makeup, like mannerisms and her eyes and whatnot. And

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as there was more confirmation, It's like my love for

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this episode just grew with every thing that I uncovered.

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Yeah, I didn't know who she was, of course, none

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of us did until she revealed it. And I'm like, oh, oh, man,

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I didn't see that coming.

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What that was.

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That was like Aalin Samalin reveal right there, Like.

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Of all the of all the people, uh, to be

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able to get that kind of role, it made me

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so happy. It's like it's like seeing something great happening

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for a friend of yours that's in the business, right

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because we know we've talked about how much love she

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has for it, how much deep knowledge she has of

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the lore. I kind of see her as a as

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kind of the next generation of Jonathan Frake's use one person.

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You know, there's clearly, you know, others that keep the

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franchise alive, but I feel like Freak's is and has

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done so much for it, and it seems like Tawny

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is ready to grab the mantle. So for for a

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character like Dax then to be her, and I saw

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in an interview that that was kind of a surprise

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to her, like they had written the character and allso

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the kind of stuff, and they said, you know what,

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we think you should be this character. And it was like, oh,

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that's fantastic. But it's a character that represents both the

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past and the future of the franchise. So I love

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that that's talking.

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Yeah, and they had to put her in pretty heavy

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makeup too. I was actually rather impressed, you know, as

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a she's a Kardaskian, I mean, and a trail but

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I love the reveal. But they had to because I mean,

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we've seen her already, both in animation and live action.

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I'm glad that that not only did she write the episode,

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and I hope she writes more because you know, this,

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this was a really good episode. I'm not sure exactly

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how much she wrote and how much to Kirsten Bayer wrote,

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who I'm familiar with her because she was one of

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the main writers on the Star Trek Con podcast series,

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which I listened to and we haven't we haven't really

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reviewed that, but that was a fantastic series. So but

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they're both they both did a good job, and I

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hope she has more involvement in Starfleet Academy, and I

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actually hope her character returns. I'd love to see the

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character again.

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I agree.

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Another thing that I love that they're doing, because so

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last week we had the CBS Studios production with Kling

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on this one is she stretches it all out a

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story about me, which I thought was fantastic but I

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like and typically I don't like the breaking down to

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the fourth wall, but it worked in this.

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It really did for Sam.

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I loved everything, how involved she was, and we all

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knew this was gonna be an episode about Sam. We

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all knew that was coming. But even though we knew

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that was coming, it still was quite the experience. Would

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you guys agree with that?

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Oh?

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Yeah, it was adorable and disarming. Like when I first

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saw that being like written over the credit, I was like,

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all right, this sets the tone for what this episode

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is going to be. Yep, it's gonna be fun. I

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had no idea what else would be happening within it,

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so it was just it was just an extra, you know,

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layer of goodness.

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I just never expected to go into this depth of

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Deep Space nine and the mythology that happened after this series.

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I really never expected this series to tackle that in

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such you know depth that they did, and the fact

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that they brought back Circlofton, I mean that blew my mind. Yeah,

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I really do we ever think we'd ever see those

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any of those characters.

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No, I think we even mentioned that, like the Deep

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Space nine has not gotten a lot of love over

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the years, then we never understood why the characters have

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never returned for anything, and it's almost been kind of

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like an afterthought, Okay, whatever, we're not going to revisit that.

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So I mean this was well needed for Deep Space nine.

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Yes, yes, yes, way overdue. Yeah, And I think it's

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it's a great It's a great testament to the fact

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that if if you are new to this, they're still

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kind of on the fence about it. If you have

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a connection to DS nine, if you've listened to what

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we've been talking about, this is a great way into

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this franchise, uh to the Starfleet Academy. But it's also

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an acknowledgment of how seriously they're taking this. Like it's

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more light hearted. There's you know, cursing in it that

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we don't usually see. So certain people might be like, well,

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I don't know if it's you know, the Trek. For me,

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it's still got that core trek heart to it, especially

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when you start to discover the you know, the the

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steps they took to get this right to talk with

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Sarrock Lofton and get his kind of permission, get his

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buy in, and getting that kind of access to Avery Brooks.

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Yeah, yep.

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Which I will say the best scene in this entire

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episode was between Jake and Sam when they were when

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they were talking to one another and Sam with crying,

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that was the best scene of the entire episode.

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Absolutely, it broke it broke my heart.

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I mean, Sam is this hologram and you know, you

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almost feel like, you know, she doesn't have emotions or anything,

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but yes she does.

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And feeling that for her what she went through was

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just magical.

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Even even you know, to go back to the elements

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of Harry Potter again, when she opens up the book

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and all the words start coming up into the air

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and it just was so well done. And even when

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she go back to play the therem in and then

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the notes started coming along coming out of the therem

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and it's just those two things were just phenomenal to me.

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They really were.

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It was so different from anything that that Star Trek

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has ever done.

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But I loved what they did. I loved how different

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it was.

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And you know, this wasn't just a you know, fanboy

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thing for for Star Trek d Space nine. The episode

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really didn't have meaning. I mean, we needed this episode

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for the character of Sam. She evolves, she she advances

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so much in this episode yep that you know, it's

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it's great how it's just how they wrote it is

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so well done for both the character and for the

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mythology of Space nine. I'm really impressed with them. Kudos

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to it to the writers.

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The direction of this, Like Dave, to your point, it's

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almost like it's a live action animated show yep. Like

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there's so many creative nuances here that we don't typically

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see you'd probably typically see in like an animated movie.

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That's just used so well. I love the fact that

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the makers the way they connect with Sam, that she's

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reporting to them like work reporting to orson.

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I'm glad you said that because I got that same feel.

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Oh god, that was so nice and uh she would tell.

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Yeah, he's the voice of them, yep.

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Being though I didn't realize that until recently.

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Yeah, Oh that's so cool.

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You know, we've we've talked about and again we're gonna go.

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Back a little bit to people complaining about things because

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you kind of touched a little bit on that.

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Scott.

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One thing you really need to consider when you're watching

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this is we are looking through the eyes of these

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college kids. That is who we are experiencing this through.

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And the fact they were able to do that through

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the eyes of Sam and what we know the history

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of d Space now we know the history of Cisco,

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Benjamin and Jake and all of that. So getting to

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experience all of that through Sam, that is what this

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whole series is about, experiencing this world through the eyes

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of these college kids who have no inkling about the

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history that's involved with what happened years and years ago

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with Star Trek, Right, they don't know, so.

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We're getting to experience all that through them.

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So I think that is an amazing way an angle

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that they've taken to make this show so fresh but

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still keeping it alive for people who have grown up

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with Star Trek.

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Yeah, I mean, because otherwise it would just be fan

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service yep, right, if it was always kind of retreading it.

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That's one of the great benefits of being in the

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time period were in everything is discovery. Everything is new,

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as in like a brand new thing to uncover. Even

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familiar species we don't necessarily know what's happening with them,

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we get to kind of uncover it. So it definitely

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infuses a lot more mystery back into the franchise. And

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this episode is another example of how great it is

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that they're trying to make that, as I guess, accessible

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to a lot of audiences, Like there's this will appeal

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to an audience that maybe the previous episode didn't or

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other series may have not. It gives a lot of

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ways in it's a very important time for Star Trek.

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I think, yeah, and that was really necessary because there

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are a lot of fans, especially old time fans, that

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are kind of rejecting this series because it looks so different.

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You know, they're they're saying, oh, this isn't the prime

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Star Trek universe, this is some alternate universe. You kind

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of can't deny that it's not this. This is the

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regular Star Trek universe. I mean, this episode has has

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washed any doubts away.

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You just can't and they shouldn't.

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You know.

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The thing is is a lot of these older fans

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are having trouble embracing the new Star Trek, not just

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Starfleet Academy, but Discovery the Car at all those shows.

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It's it's sad because they're missing so much and missing

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all the joy, the magic, the ononder, all this this

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new that everything that that's being brought to us through

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the new Star Trek, which we love in World timers.

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We all Star Trek fans, you know.

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And we love it.

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Just embrace it, yep, exactly, both said wing. Just embrace it,

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enjoy it.

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Sit back. At least we're getting Star.

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Trek, right yeah, and good Star.

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Trek and good Star Trek exactly.

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Great.

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I mean, this reminds me of a strange New World's episode.

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I forget the name of it, and I'll probably mash

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a lot of this up, but the episode where they

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had to kind of convince that new species to join

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the Federation and they eventually kind of flew their flag.

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Oh yeah right, yes, yeah right.

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It feels like this is kind of going for that.

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This is the makers trying to what is it cask

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is the world?

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Yeah, that's.

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Trying to understand whether or evaluate whether or not they

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want to be part of of Starfleet. And yeah, with

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the older fans that you know, want to hold on

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to the star Trek that they love, it's fine to

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hold to that, but it's like your your your star

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Trek then only lives in a finite place.

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It's in a bottle, right exactly, right, yep right.

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Just knowing that there's a way for it to live

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on should make any Trek fan happy.

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Yep. Yeah.

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You know.

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Another one of the things I love to see growing

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is the friendship between cal Rick and Nala.

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I love the relationship with each other. I I do the.

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Whole dinner ceremony scene that they did that was hysterical,

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absolutely was, and how like kel Ric is just all

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like this, you know, prim and proper, and you know,

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and then when he blew up to Nala, which was like, dude,

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what a jerky war But she just took that in stride.

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You know when she rank got even in the elevator

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and just basically confronted about but didn't like confront me

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like she was angry and everything like that.

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She just basically wanted to get to the bottom, like, dude,

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chill out. Man, this is what's going on, you know.

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But I love where.

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They're going with those two characters because Nala's just just

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laid back, relaxed chancellor and then Kelrik is like this

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uptight chancellor for the war Academy. I love this the

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two angles that they got going here, and they're just

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I think they're finally starting to see eye to eye

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a little bit, which I love that.

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It's cool.

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Yeah, and I like how that was written kind of

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very traditional Star Trek with was an A storyline and

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a B storyline, but it was neat that the kids

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all had their own storyline and the old time starfleet,

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that people all had their own own timeline, and they

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were both our own story and they were all fantastic.

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They were all funny, great well written.

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Yeah, absolutely it was.

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It was a great kind of it that I didn't

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realize was a trope in Star Trek where there's that

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kind of we have to kind of be diplomatic and

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using the adhering to these traditions that we think are ridiculous,

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like the bullhorn mugs, right, whatever, those things. It almost

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seemed like it was a semi improv kind of thing.

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It was like, yeah, they don't have to play an instrument,

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you know, And it's great seeing kind of that dynamic.

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I think it was also a great use of the

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Doctor and jet Reno Yes to kind of give their

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perspective on it and just play along and sometimes lean

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way into it. It was a great touch.

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When the doctor picked up to use it, she grabbed.

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He goes, no, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, yeah no, it's

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not happening too funny. Yeah.

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All right.

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Now that we've given our opinion on that episode and

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it was a good one, let's take a look at

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the characters themselves. Which character you think shines the most

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this week?

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Scott to me, it's Sam. I might want to say Jake,

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because he absolutely does. I just want to take a

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second to thank Sir Rocklofton for being a part of

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this every single little Like if we had just seen

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him in the museum, I would have been happy, but

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to see where he eventually went, I was overjoyed. I

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could say the same thing about Professor Dax. But Sam

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really comes into her own in this episode. She takes

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it from the beginning, takes it all the way to

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the end, takes us on this journey of like this

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is gonna be fun too. This is gonna make you

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you know, it had me on the ViRGE of tears

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with joy, and I just loved seeing that. Carrie s

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Brooks did an amazing job here, David.

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Yeah, no, I'm gonna. I'm gonna read Carise's books. Is

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a standout in this for sure as Sam. Her childlike

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innocence and the mission given to her unmakers to understand

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and organics are portrayed remarkable with Warmthinson's you know, she

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moved through the campus with boundless energy, bringing every scene

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to life. Sam's insatiable curiosity and the deep attachment she

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formed with Fifth Guild as a fellow emissary truly shines

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throughout the episode the whole. You know, we talked about

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the one scene with her and Jake when she opens

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up the book.

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You know, it just it's so heartfelt right there, it

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really is. You can just.

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See her internal struggle just laid out for all of

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us to see and witness with those tears that are

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falling from her eyes.

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It's just an incredible performance on her part. And I mean, yeah,

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I couldn't pick anybody else, There's no way.

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Yeah, I mean, of course I'm agreeing it's it's Sam.

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I mean, this is her episode. We knew it was

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going to be, I mean obviously from the title of

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the episode. But yeah, Carrie's Brooks. She's fantastic, remarkable job

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in this episode. Over the last four episodes, I was

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really sure about where her character's going or what they

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plan on doing with her, only because I I felt

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that they really hadn't given her a very much to do.

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But she's got a lot to do here, and she's

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grown on me. Yeah, and I can really, I can

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really see the potential that that character now has with

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this series. There's a lot of potential there. Plus, you know,

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I'm very curious about her background and her race, specifically

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that the Overlords is.

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Giving her orders.

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I want to know more about what's going on there,

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about the situation, the plans. That's I can see a

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lot coming up in the next couple.

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Of years of the show with that, you know, there

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there's a there's a couple of lines that Jake provides

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that just truly hit home when they're talking when he's

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talking to Sam and they're talking about Benjamin, and he

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looks and says, you know, all the things that you

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think he missed he didn't.

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He was always there.

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He never really left us, and he says, I can't

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prove it, but I know it's true that dude.

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That hit home.

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No, my god, Yeah, as someone who has lost both parents,

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absolutely as a father, that hit deep. And it feels

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like it's not just we're going to give you a

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basket of Easter eggs. That's a little bit of a

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love letter to DS nine. It's more like, we're going

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to give you I would say, probably a little bit

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more satisfaction than closer, which is exactly what it should have.

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You have that still, you know, it's like an inception,

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like the mystery still stands whether not the top falls

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right or keeps spinning. It keeps it alive. It never

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answers the question what happened to Ben Cisco to a

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certain degree. It keeps that mystery alive, but it gives

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a satisfaction of knowing that he never had that connection

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lost with Jake and oh yeah, yeah, just have me

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in stitches.

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Absolutely.

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Well, I'm glad you brought that up to David because

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that was very important. It just shows how the writers

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really care about making sure that they do honor to

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d space sign into the character of Benjamin Cisco because

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back in the last season, Avery Brooks didn't want them

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to say that he never came back. You know, he

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didn't want that whole you know, black guy abandoning his

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family thing that was going on, and they added those

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lines in there specifically to make sure that that didn't happen.

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You know, there's been a lot of talk. I've been

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reading the reviews of this episode and they've all been very,

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very positive. But there's a lot of questions as to

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why Avery Brooks didn't actually come back for this episode,

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or why he didn't come back for anything else. And

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the simple reason, I mean, he retired quite a few

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years ago. He did, you know, he doesn't, you know,

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other than a very rare convention appearance that he makes

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every now and then, he doesn't do any acting and

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I don't think he has any desire to return to

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acting right now. But according to the producer of this episode,

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he was very much involved in the making of this episode,

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was in touch with them and Soracism as well, and

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you know, giving him the blessing to make the episode.

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He even gave a curious Brooks a phone call and

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talk to her about it, which I think is fantastic

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that you know that, you know, he at least had

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that little bit of involvement. He basically handed over the

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reins of his character to her, which I thought was

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a beautiful gesture in his heart.

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Even his narration at the end that was that was

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a speech that Avery Brooks gave that they put into

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this episode, which was so cool.

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Yeah, wasn't that a recording that he had done? It's

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kind of a I got the sense it was maybe

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like a private recording he had done on something he

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was also reflecting on his own father.

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Yeah, it was some sort of like poem readings or

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something he did like twenty years ago or so after

478
00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:37.599
the show.

479
00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:42.240
Yeah, which just gives it a whole another level of meaning.

480
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.319
And knowing that Siak has been in touch with Avery

481
00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:50.000
over the years. That's that father son type relationship that

482
00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:53.680
goes beyond the written page, right, absolutely right, And just

483
00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:55.799
knowing that they were like, we need to take this,

484
00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:01.599
we need to treat this with a lot of respect. Just, uh,

485
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:02.200
that's off.

486
00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:03.440
Yeah, I agreed.

487
00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:06.359
If you have any choice to be any character that

488
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:09.599
appeared in this episode, which one would it be? And why, David,

489
00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:10.880
why don't you give us ours yours.

490
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.240
I'm going to continue with with the Sam here because

491
00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:17.119
she is experiencing so much for the very first time,

492
00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:21.880
you know, not just learning, but truly feeling it.

493
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:22.519
You know.

494
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:24.759
Along the way, she finds someone she can deeply relate

495
00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:28.359
to in Cisco, not only Benjamin, but Jake as well.

496
00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:31.039
You know, she dies headfirst into the wealth of knowledge.

497
00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:34.960
Sam discovers far more than answers about her subject. You know,

498
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:38.759
she uncovers truth about herself. Who doesn't want to do

499
00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:41.000
that to be honest with you. You know, her journey

500
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:43.599
is one of connection, self discovery and understating what it

501
00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:44.440
truly means.

502
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.359
To be more than what she was created to be.

503
00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:52.079
And the stance that she makes to her makers just

504
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:56.440
spoke volume. And you know, we've always wanted to make

505
00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.279
that stance to somebody who has been that overpower being,

506
00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:01.559
you know, Ball.

507
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:04.279
Or whatever it is. Yep, We've always.

508
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.119
Wanted to be in those shoes to give it back

509
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.240
to them. And the fact that Sam made that stance

510
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:11.640
manages I would.

511
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:12.400
Love to have been in that position.

512
00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:18.400
Yeah. Well, I think it's fascinating that they created her

513
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:21.599
character as the emissary kind of role because it could

514
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.880
have gone another couple of directions. It could have gone

515
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:28.720
into the ODO data type of idea of she's been

516
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:31.240
sent by her species but doesn't understand a lot about

517
00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:33.720
it and just trying to find others like her. It

518
00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:36.160
could have gone to just kind of the diplomat role,

519
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:38.279
to be like, you know, I'm here on behalf and

520
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:42.240
I'm trying to you know, bridge things. But the emissary

521
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.480
seems like it has a whole lot more responsibility for

522
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.799
somebody who is one hundred and twenty seven days old

523
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.960
something like that. Yeah, and the way that she handles

524
00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:56.680
that role is amazing. I think for my choice who

525
00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.960
I would be, I would actually go with Professor Dax,

526
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:04.920
because I would love to just know what she had

527
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:09.599
kind of gone through being you know, kind of secretive

528
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:13.200
about it or kind of like letting the mystery unravel

529
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:16.559
in a very specific way, to kind of feel what

530
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:21.920
that would mean to see, you know, Jake connect with Samer,

531
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:25.680
knowing that that kind of connection was made and knowing

532
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:29.119
that she's kind of bridging one generation to the next.

533
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:31.319
I'd love to be able to fly on the wall.

534
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:34.240
I don't think i'd want to know all the secrets

535
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.200
that the Dax notes like, I wouldn't want that to

536
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.759
be revealed. I didn't want to know exactly what we

537
00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:41.960
were shown in the episode, but just being in that

538
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:44.039
role feels like it would it would be amazing.

539
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:44.640
Wayne.

540
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:44.960
About you?

541
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.359
Well, Wayne, before you answered THO, So for Trill, they'll

542
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.279
live eight hundred years, So clearly she's like, what a thousand?

543
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.279
Now like almost twelve hundred I believed, So Yeah, clearly

544
00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:58.119
the oldest show that ever lived.

545
00:26:57.880 --> 00:26:59.920
Obviously, Yeah, because she was old when she was on

546
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:01.680
Deep Space nine, or at least she was at least

547
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:02.720
a few hundred years old.

548
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:07.200
Yeah, and considering how many close calls that Semiote has

549
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:12.920
been through to say the least exactly, Yeah, knowing that

550
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:17.599
they that they've survived through that is fantastic. I mean,

551
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.440
living through the burn for God's sakes like that.

552
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:23.000
Every Yeah, absolutely, What about you, Wayne, I'm curious?

553
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.680
Well, yeah, I'm I'm gonna choose Sam as of course

554
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:29.440
I am, because I love her curiosity, her brightness, or

555
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:32.400
her wonder because I think she's the character that I

556
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.359
probably most relate to, especially in this series.

557
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:37.079
She when she was.

558
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.440
Standing in that room trying to choose which mystery to tackle,

559
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:42.440
you know, had you had the Guardian there, and there

560
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.200
were some of the others. They were all interesting, but

561
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.440
I probably would have chosen the mystery of Cisco's disappearance as.

562
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:48.920
Well, you know.

563
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:52.119
And the way she tackled the mystery was was really

564
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.039
well done because she didn't solve it, but she did

565
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:59.240
solve the mystery of herself and took a giant step

566
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.720
in her own death study. I really like that, So

567
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:04.759
I have to choose her because I can relate.

568
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:05.799
It's a good choice.

569
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.119
And now we get to the favorite part of watching

570
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.559
these episodes, where we dive deep into the episode and

571
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:13.480
see if we can't pull out any Easter eggs, and boy,

572
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:20.640
this episode was jammed, ben right, So I'm gonna let you,

573
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:23.519
David and Scott you tell me anything you found.

574
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:24.720
First, and then I'll fill in DAPs.

575
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.079
Well, I mean, we've already mentioned quite a few of them,

576
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.279
so I'm sure we don't need to go over those again.

577
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:31.640
Some of the things that I.

578
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:34.279
Caught when they were showing and the the the city,

579
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:36.440
there was a quarks did you guys catch.

580
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:38.240
I didn't even see.

581
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:40.759
Yeah, I thought that was pretty neat.

582
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:43.640
It's pretty impressive that his franchise is still going on

583
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:45.200
out far into the future.

584
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.519
Absolutely, it was amazing.

585
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.079
But obviously Jake's book Anthelm, we you know, that was

586
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.440
kind of a nice touch. But you know, we mentioned

587
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.279
the book that kind of stuff already. How about Caleb

588
00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.519
eating the with it Jaman just stick deep space jump

589
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:02.400
job yeah, jump John, Yeah, I thought that was kind

590
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:02.640
of cool.

591
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:03.359
Oh look at that.

592
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:06.359
But and there's a lot more of got I'll leave

593
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:07.839
it to you if you have any organ, wing can

594
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:09.519
clean it up, because there is just a ton in

595
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:11.960
this episode.

596
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.880
The absolute favorite that feels like it can be kind

597
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.319
of left up to the audience to figure out, like

598
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:21.599
the history of it, what the meaning of it is

599
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:25.400
something that technically doesn't seem like it should exist, which

600
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:29.799
is the typewriter. Oh yeah, Now it feels like that's,

601
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.519
you know, obviously a callback to the alternate, you know,

602
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:38.720
reality that Cisco had kind of lived in. But knowing

603
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.279
that his son Jake is a writer, it feels like

604
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.920
that could have a lot of different connection into the history.

605
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:50.480
It could be one of Cisco's ancestors typewriters. It could

606
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:53.480
be something that hebe passed down to Jake to continue

607
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:57.680
his writing. I don't know if there's a specific, solid answer.

608
00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:59.440
I don't know if I want to know what that is.

609
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.440
I just love knowing that it has a special place

610
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.119
in that museum, knowing all the different kind of meanings

611
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:08.799
that could take Wayne. What about you?

612
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.240
Oh well, okay, let's start with the big one. Of course,

613
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.200
we had the return of two main characters from Star.

614
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:16.079
Trek Deep Space nine.

615
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.640
We got sirih Lofton is Jason, so this is his

616
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.200
first appearance. In fact, it's the first live appearance of

617
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.720
any character from Deep Space nine to have appear since

618
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.440
nineteen ninety nine. And of course the second Stacks you

619
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.200
know this time was played by Tony Newsome. But I

620
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:35.319
have to point out when you have to comment that

621
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.799
it is the first live appearance, because we've seen a

622
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.799
lot of the characters appear on Star Trek lower decks.

623
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:45.519
We had Kira Basher, Garrett cork Ram, leda Ade, General Martok.

624
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.000
They all appeared over their five seasons, but live action.

625
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:49.519
Here we go.

626
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.119
Now a few of those mysteries that I had mentioned

627
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.279
that Sam had to choose from other than the A

628
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.480
Cisco mystery. There was the origin of the Omonga molecule,

629
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.359
which we saw that in Star Trek Voyager. There was

630
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.799
the psionic effects of the Great Barrier. That's of course

631
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:09.799
from the original series episode where No Man Has Gone

632
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.279
Before the Guardian of Forever. That's from City on the

633
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.160
Edge Forever. And then there was the Katras Stones, and

634
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:19.480
of course that's from Star Trek three, the Search for Spock. Now,

635
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.799
Jake tells Sam that the prophets told Cisco that if

636
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:27.279
he married Cassidy he would know nothing but sorrow. That's

637
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.920
almost a direct quote from the Deep Space nine episode

638
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.319
per number from season seven. I think we actually talked

639
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.400
about that on our podcast for that Now. At the

640
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.000
beginning of the episode, during Sam's monologue, she mentions her

641
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.200
homework Cask. But there were a few other worlds that

642
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:49.160
were mentioned and seen on screen, which include Kazon Prime

643
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.400
and Herogen Prime. Both of those are from Voyager. There

644
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.799
was Feengar from Deep Space nine and Danubilia from Enterprise,

645
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.960
although they spelt that one wrong. Well, you know, that's

646
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:03.000
nobody's perfect. But there was also, of course, you know,

647
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:07.160
Earth and or Delta Betaz and Riza Beijor, and need

648
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.839
a few others on there. There were a lot of

649
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:14.079
the Bajoran things in this episode. You already mentioned one,

650
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.279
but there was the when in the Bajor Club where

651
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.559
they were touching each other's ears. Yeah, and then of

652
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:22.759
course we got to see the orb again, which looks

653
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.039
exactly like it did Inity Space I, and it even

654
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.079
went dark, which was kind of ominous and makes me

655
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.160
wonder exactly what was going on there, if if even

656
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.519
is a real orb. Okay, then we go on and

657
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:36.920
like I said, there's quite a few of them, and

658
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.960
I'm leaving a lot of them out. The Doctor mentions

659
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.640
that he had never met Benjamin Cisco, but his creator,

660
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:48.039
Lewis Zimmerman, did that happened in Doctor Bashir. I presume, Well,

661
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.559
everything in that Cisco museum is an easter. Just just

662
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:52.000
go look at it yourself.

663
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:53.720
I'm not gonna bring all those there's a lot.

664
00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:00.079
And you mentioned Jake Siska's novel Anslom. That is the

665
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.119
same book that Jake talked about in the Deep Space

666
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:08.359
nine episode The Visitor we got. I'll here's something I

667
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.680
don't know if you guys notice this or not. You

668
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:14.640
know during that audio clip of Avery Brooks talking at

669
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.799
the end that you notice that Cisco's face appears in

670
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:17.359
the clouds.

671
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:19.200
Yes, did you notice that.

672
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:20.079
I noticed that.

673
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.200
Yeah, it seems to be on the internet. Seems to

674
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.599
be about fifty to fifty in terms of people actually

675
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:25.400
noticing that thing.

676
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:25.680
Yep.

677
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:27.640
And of course you know the end credits. I don't

678
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.359
know if you guys stayed and watched the end credits.

679
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:33.240
But they didn't play the theme for Starfleet Academy just

680
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:35.839
played the first Yeah, it was the first season theme

681
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:36.680
with de Space nine.

682
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:37.000
Yep.

683
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:38.559
Oh wow, I think that's it.

684
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.240
And then finally, this isn't exactly an easter egg. This

685
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.680
is something I do want to point out because I

686
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.279
feel like they've created the definitive history of what happened

687
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:51.839
after what you'd leave behind. In the fact that Benjamin

688
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.839
Cisco's never seen again, there have been various novels and

689
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:58.440
comic books that have told the story of his return,

690
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.279
most specifically the recent to Star Trek Defiant comics series

691
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:07.079
from IDW which had Cisco return from the profits on

692
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.159
a mission for them to stop this some new evil

693
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:16.199
spreading across the galaxy. But unlike the novels in the

694
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.239
media for franchises like Star Wars, Doctor Who, Paramount stance

695
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:22.440
has always been if you don't see it on screen.

696
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:23.519
It didn't happen, yep.

697
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:28.199
So you know, they just just remember that, you know,

698
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.639
it's not part of the actual continuity. If you read

699
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.840
these these novels and comics, just enjoy that them for

700
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:36.639
what they are and don't don't hurt your braining trying to.

701
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.519
Squeeze them the universe. It's just it's not worth it.

702
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:45.000
Agreed, Well, I think that's kind of an interesting point

703
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.280
that it's kind of connected to Cask and the Makers,

704
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.039
the fact that there's at some point in the past

705
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:57.320
Cask and the Makers had been developed I guess by Solids.

706
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:03.119
I'll just take that from the change things that and

707
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.280
you know, what has happened with the rest of the

708
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.039
characters from DS nine is now something that's kind of

709
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.400
peppered in that could be explored in the series that

710
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:13.800
happens before Star for the Academy if they wanted to

711
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.480
pursue that, like in Strange New Worlds or another kind

712
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:18.360
of follow up, right, And it feels like it also

713
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:20.960
opens the door to say, like, now we can have

714
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.000
continuation stories of DS nine that don't have to get

715
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.320
into what happened to Cisco and where is he? We

716
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.880
can focus on maybe some of the other characters and

717
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.239
kind of bring them into the universe without that being

718
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.920
like an over well over arching kind of mystery.

719
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:38.760
The ideas out there, Star Trek Legacy, Come on, Paramount,

720
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:40.360
make the damn thing. We all want it.

721
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:40.960
Please.

722
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Yeah, we've been preaching on that one for a while

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and it's and we'll keep preaching.

724
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Well, it's not happened, But if it's going to happen,

725
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it will probably be announced this year because with the

726
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Strange New Worlds wrapping up and we already we see

727
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its definitive end coming up to replace with another series. Obviously,

728
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the question is what we're all screaming for Legacy. We're

729
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.480
hoping that's that's the series they replace it. We know,

730
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I'm certain that that's what they're waiting for. Is they're

731
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waiting for one series to end before they start the others.

732
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So if it is going to be announced, it'll be

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this year. If it doesn't get announceside doubt if we'll

734
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ever see on our fortune anything else you guys like

735
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to add This fantastic episode, I know we talked about

736
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a lot of it.

737
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:29.159
Yeah, one wonderful episode. Yeah halfway through.

738
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Are we yes?

739
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We are go so fast these ten episode seasons. Well,

740
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then I guess that's it for this week's episode of

741
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00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:38.639
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762
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:41.079
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763
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:42.519
another fascinating discussion.

764
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:44.480
Thanks everybody. Thanks.

765
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Next episode is titled Come Let's Away, the sixth episode

766
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of the season, and we've actually been given a short

767
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:56.320
blurb this time, and it says, during the cadets first

768
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:00.360
training mission on an abandoned ship, then counter a dangerous cineme.

769
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Any clues or ideas that you guys have in mind

770
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:03.880
for that.

771
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:06.360
A dangerous enemy? That's all I got.

772
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:11.239
Well, I really have no idea, but that dangerous enemy.

773
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:18.559
What is the character's name from the pilot, Paul Giammanni Braca.

774
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.320
Yeah, there we go. I actually think it might. I

775
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:21.719
think it might.

776
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.639
He might be making an appearance again, because we did

777
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:27.079
say that we thought he would appear at least one

778
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:28.960
more time other than the finales.

779
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So yeah, this might be it. That's what that's my thoughts,

780
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but who knows.

781
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As always, you look forward to returning to the thirty

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second century and the classrooms of Starfleet Academy, and you'll

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find us here each week reviewing all the new episodes

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as a premiere until next episode. Haling frequencies closed.