Feb. 1, 2026

Tony Scott - Deja Vu

Tony Scott - Deja Vu
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Season 7 A Film By...
Our Denzel and the Mann month kicks off with one of Denzel's most underrated performances. Jeff and Garret make sense of Tony Scott’s time-bending thriller Deja Vu, a high-concept mix of sci-fi, romance, and explosive action. Can the past truly be changed?

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What if you had to tell someone the most important

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thing in the world, but you knew that, never believe you.

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We're going to talk about a film by Tony Scott,

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his two thousand and six sci fi crime thriller, celebrating

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its twentieth anniversary this year Deja Vu.

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Hello everybody.

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I'm Jeff Johnson and I'm Gary Gibson and.

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This is a film by Podcast Garrett. Welcome back, sir,

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new season. I think this is your first time this season.

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Right, first time this season. Glad to be back as always, sir.

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I am too, man. I you know, I always looked

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at the schedule. I was like, shit, we don't have

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any kind of Reeves movies. And after you broke off

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like four or five am in a row, I was like,

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I gotta find something, you know, something to talk about.

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You know. It's a It's a great film, the reason

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we're here to talk today. So I'm excited for this

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one for sure.

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I am too.

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This is the fourth Tony Scott film we've discussed on

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a film by, following Top Gun, Revenge and The Last

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Boy Scout. But the first time you've had a chance

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to be on the pod and talk Tony Scott.

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Garrett, what's your take on his work? Are you a

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big fan?

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So, I'm actually a huge fan of Tony Scott's work.

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He's done a lot of films that have amazed me

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throughout the years. And it's always weird looking at his

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filmography when you do a little bit of research into him,

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because you see so many films that you're like, I

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love that one. Wait, I love that one too, hold on, wait,

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these are all the same guy? Yeah, he was pretty awesome.

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He is.

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Before we get into it. It's February now, so we

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are kicking off a whole new theme for this month.

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We're calling this one Denzel and the Man, as in

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Michael Man. So we got a couple Denzel Washington movies

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for you, and we got a couple of Michael Mann

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films for you. Let's talk about Tony Scott for a second, Garrett.

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I've got three things you may not know about him

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and a quote. And this ain't gonna be easy because,

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like I said, we've talked about him a couple of

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times now, so.

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That's hear bred all right.

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Do you like his two thousand and four film Man

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on Fire?

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I love his two thousand and four film Man On Well.

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He was originally supposed to direct that back in nineteen

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eighty seven, but close to the start of production he

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was actually rejected by producers at the time who felt

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he wasn't polished enough.

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To pull it off to make a good film.

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So thankfully a different set of producers felt differently seventeen

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years later.

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And I think the time jumped there, and you know,

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the actor that he ended up with in two thousand

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and four definitely a better feather than his cap.

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I would say, I'm wondering who in nineteen eighty seven,

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who's if he's directing at eighty seven's who's playing Creasy?

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Because I'm going straight to Lugassa Junior.

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I mean, you really have to go with someone like

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lu Gassi Junior. There really wasn't that much like talent

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at the point in time to where I think it

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fits in that role exactly.

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So I think, got I'll give you hold on.

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I'm going to recast this nineteen eighty seven what if version.

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I'm not giving it to lu gasst you know who'm

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giving it to?

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Who were given it to?

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Carl Weathers, Oh.

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Buddy, I mean that's a prime time Carl Weathers right

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there in nineteen eighty seven, that is coming off the

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set Predator right there.

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Yes, exactly, he would like it. He could have been

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an amazing creasy, but it would have been more on

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the rejection front for Tony Scott. He was the front

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runner to direct the highly regarded screenplay for Starman back

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in nineteen eighty four until negative reaction to his feature

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film debut. Talking about nineteen eighty three Is the Hunger

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absolutely just took him out of the mouth of every

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producer in.

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Hollywood, and that's rough. But I honestly love that film.

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So it's hard to say what way it would have went.

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I know it would have been in good hand still,

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but I don't know that one's a classic for me.

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I mean, I mean, ultimately we know John Carpenter directs it,

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with Bridges and Karen Allen. I've talked to Karen Allen

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about this film. I couldn't imagine anyone but John Carpenter

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directing it. So I think, you know, with all due

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respect to mister Scott, I think I think we got

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the better film, But sadly for him, it was It'd

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be another three years until he gets another directing job

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and that's when he did a small film about fighter

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jets called Top Gun, which.

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Which is pretty great way to kick off the What

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was that early nineties is it? Or is that late eighties?

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That's eighty six, baby eighty six?

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Okay, yeah, best year ever for films.

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Before his death in twenty twelve, this might blow your mind.

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And it's kind of surprising because I I can't believe

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I'm about to drop another nugget about this show. But

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before his death in twenty twelve, Scott was in final

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negotiations with twentieth Century Fox to direct a film adaptation

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of their hit series twenty four, which would have brought

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back Keith Sutherland's Jack Bauer character.

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Oh dude, and that's one of the most iconic roles

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that you get out there. I mean you'll have them

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across time, you know, Jack Reacher and Jack Ryan and

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everything like that. But my gosh, Jack Bowers Keifer Sutherland

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is Jack Bower? Sorry about that? Absolutely amazing in the

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twenty four series.

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Well, yeah, it was agreed that Ridley I keep saying Ridley.

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It was agreed that Tony Scott was the ideal choice

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based on his ability to film action sequences, his visual style,

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the use of fast paced editing. So, I mean, he

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would have been the perfect choice, but you know, sadly

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after his death there, you know, the project kind of

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fell apart.

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And you can see the same style that they're going

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for in twenty four in films such as Man on

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Fire and Dejavood you get a lot of those quick cuts.

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Now.

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Now, quick quote for you on being compared to his

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brother Ridley, Tony said, Ridley makes films for posterity. My

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films are more rock and roll speaking of it, yeah,

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you gotta love that. So, Garrett, I'm excited for you

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to try this out. You know, it's two thousand and one.

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It's you know, we're doing two thousand and one and

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two thousand and six movies. We're doing big movies, big

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event movies. We don't need to spend time with these

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long drawn out.

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Synopsis form.

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So we're doing what we're calling the five words synopsis. So, Garrett,

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I want to ask you, tell me what Deja vous

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is all about using exactly five words.

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Fun, science fiction, action, thrill ride.

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All right, so you and Angela Norris are spending time

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together apparently, all right, hold on, no, it's not Angela

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it was Amber Amber, her first time she was doing

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word association.

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Yeah, here's the thing. Here's the thing.

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Brother, you gotta you gotta tell me, like, hey, guess

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this movie I'm talking about, and you got to give

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me plot specifics and you can only use and.

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You have to use five words. So I'm gonna I'm

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gonna let you off the hook for this.

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One because I know when Amber came back the next time,

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she she knocked it out of the park.

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Angela did a great job with it. But how about

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this agent from future stops bomb?

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Okay, okay, I put your button down now, okay, can

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we can we get this out.

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Of the way. This is a crime thriller that halfway

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through the movie surprises you with the fact that it's

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a sci fi time traveling movie.

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It really does, because the way this film picks up,

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like if you're going into this film cold and unknowing

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of it. For the first twenty to twenty five minutes,

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you think this is just a standard, you know, manhunt film,

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and then he gets with a special FBI subgroup, and

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then the film kind of takes turn that sign sci

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fi turn. There.

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I gotta say, I think it takes a pleasant turn

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does now disagreeing with us. The writers on this film,

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they famously took issue with Tony Scott not wanting to

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film what they wrote in favor of a more action

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oriented story, and we'll talk about that later. But I

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think their criticism and the negative buzz this movie received

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when came out is bullshit, Like it's awesome?

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Am I wrong?

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You're not wrong? And I've got to tell you the

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like from I think it's ninety nine to about twenty ten,

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that is Denzel gold right there. Everything that was coming

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out right there, I absolutely freaking loved. And this is

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one of the films that falls right at Smack Dab

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in the Metal two thousand and six. Just a great film.

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Well, before we jump into Denzel, let's take a quick

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break and then we'll get to it.

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Welcome back.

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We are talking about Tony Scott's Deja Vu, starring Denzel

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Washington as ATF special agent Doug Carlin. So producer Jerry

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Bruckheimer initially is the one that gets Denzel on board

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a star and Garrett, the first rule of having Denzel

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in your film, you introduce his character in a slow

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mo tracking shot.

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Yeah, him walking into that crime scene just slowly pulling

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the glasses off, the oversized button up, blowing in the wind.

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I mean, it's classic Denzel andro right now.

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The swagger that he has. It's just awesome to watch.

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And I gotta be honest, I think he does a

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great job balancing charisma and despair in this movie, because

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I love how he introduces himself to the detectives at

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the police precinct. You know, he comes in already offered

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him answers, give them clues, and then ask you you

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know where's coffee machine?

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Thatt? Go, Come on, guys, it's a who's in charge here?

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Who's in charge here? Okay? Yeah, you know where the

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coffee is at? Yeah, you are in charge.

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He's got that that that mega watt movie star smile.

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You know, he's got the Denzel laugh that that we're

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accustomed to hearing. But later, when he's with Val Kilmer

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one on one, he gives that great monologue about about

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losing things, about loss.

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Yes, nice to just you go home and jump on

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whoever you got. I guess I'm what to do?

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Nobody home? What happened? Everything you have?

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You lose?

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Right?

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Mother and father gone? Good looks for gone? Loved one's

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going in a second. That's what this job teaches you,

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doesn't it. No matter what, no matter how hard you

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grab on to something, you still lose it.

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Well, we're gonna grab onto this guy in a couple hours.

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That's wrong.

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No matter what, we still lose her, right, Yeah, Denzel

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is fantastic. Let's talk about Paula Patton.

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Playing Claire Kouchever. She's the the victim slash not the victim.

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You know, it's this movie, Like I said, it takes

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some weird twists and turns with you because she she's

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a she's a corpse for the first half of it,

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and then all of a sudden, we're she's she's right

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there long long as she's right beside him, you know,

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helping solve the.

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Case absolutely, you know, about thirty five minutes and they're

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starting to go over exactly how this whole process works,

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and he starts seeing the world as she does for

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these few days that they're surveilling her in the past.

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So it's quite interesting because you can tell the more

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that she Paula Patten, is on screen, that Denzel's character

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is slowly starting to fall for this woman, even though

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he's never met her.

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Yeah. He I like that.

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He's he's kind of got two missions here. He's trying

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to solve the case of the fairy explosion, but he's

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more the longer we go, the more that's taking a

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backseat to him solving the murder of this woman.

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And you're right, he is.

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He's becoming emotionally invested in her and he's falling for

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even when he meets her father and the father, you know,

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he's getting some preliminary information and dad gives him a

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little stack of photos and he's like, that's not necessary,

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and he goes, no, no, I know how this goes.

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I need her to matter to you. I love that

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moment for that guy.

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It's absolutely amazing. And you know, a little further along

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in the film, and I guarantee we'll discuss it just

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the val Kelmer wrap up after they solve everything, and

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he's like, well, we're not here for the families. Yeah,

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And it gives you that moment where Denzel's like, no,

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we do.

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You could say this is a breakout role for Paula Patten,

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but afterward and I want to say, like, for several years,

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she never really has another hit until we get to

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I think it's Mission impossible Ghost Protocol twenty eleven, that happens,

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she's red hot again, but then nothing comes of it.

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I guess I just don't understand why she's not a

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major star.

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No, because I mean, Paula Patten is absolutely breathtaking, absolutely gorgeous.

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I loved her in the Key for Sutherland film Mirrors.

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Of course, there's a few other roles that she was

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in around that two thousand and six twenty ten timeline,

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but nothing that she really took off from. This is

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the actress that heck, I believe if they made Deadpool

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two probably ten years prior, this is our domino right here.

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This is the way that we would get because she

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looks so much like that as Zazie beats Girl.

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So I feel like, yeah, I'll go you one better.

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I think you just gave me an idea of who

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basically takes Paula Patten's career away from her. And if

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you think about the projects, think about someone like Zoe Saldana.

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Oh yeah, that's true.

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She does she have the career that Paula Patton is

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supposed to have.

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You think so her and Thandia Newton as well. I

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think both of those fit about the build and the

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career that you would think of her, because it's someone

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that you're like, oh, that could be a bond girl,

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or that could be this, that could be that, and

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you never see it from her. But she's got the charisma,

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she's got the looks, she's got great actress capabilities. Yeah,

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I mean why not?

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I think Yeah.

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I think sal Dona's like maybe three or four years

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younger than her. I think I think she's I think

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she stills.

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Her career more.

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I think you might. I think you might be right.

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You mentioned Val Kilmer.

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He is playing special agent FBI special Agent Paul Priswara.

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I think it's I think it's yet he gives so

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he takes this role because.

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He just wants to work with Denzel, and who can

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blame him? You know, if that's you know, not something

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you've done yet, you gotta do it. I love seeing

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Kilmer here, though, and I think the crime that one

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of the crimes that this movie has is that we

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don't have enough Kilmer.

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I think you're right because this is one of the

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films after, of course, the eighties and nineties success with

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Val Kilmer. I think this is one of his roles

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in the two thousands and even twenty tens that you

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can actually get behind. You're like, oh, wow, Okay, he

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delivered something for this film, and I don't think we

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have enough on screen time with him. It's kind of

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like he's there, but he's almost used as a background

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character as we've got Adam Goldberg and everyone else in

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this room. So he kind of lose Val Kilmer in there.

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And it's unfortunate because I absolutely loved him in this room.

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Yeah.

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Now you know, he's notorious for having a good time

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on set, like likes to have fun with the crew.

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Turns out he made t shirts for the crew when

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they're shooting this. Now you remember you got you got

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Val Kilmer, you got Denzel Washington, you got Jim Caviezel

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in this movie, Garrett, he has shirts made up that

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say Malcolm X, Jesus Christ and Jim Morrison.

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Deja vu?

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How can we fail?

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Oh my gosh, could you imagine how I want?

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I want one of them, you know, because you know

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there's only a couple hundred of may I'd love.

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Yeah, the set that that's pretty fricking And also.

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Man, yeah, speaking of Jim covizl he's playing domestic terrorist

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Carol Orstadt.

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Or Stott yeap or Stott.

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Yeah, thank you.

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So let's be on like the similarities between his character

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and real life domestic terrorist Timothy McVeigh.

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I mean, we just can't overlook that.

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Oh, by no means huh, I mean no.

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And even like Tony Scott and Covisel, they admitted the

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character was was somewhat based on him. You know, my

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question though, is is the guy Does the film give

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us enough to hate this guy as the villain or

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is he just evil for the sake of evil?

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So to me, it came up a little short in

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his background because even in the interrogation scene or the

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wrap up with his characters, about the most you get

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of him other than him chasing a shadow for the

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first three quarters of film, which kind of robs from

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you absolutely despising this guy. Of course, you know two

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three of the crimes that he commits there, but they

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never give you really a background. They don't tell you

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why he's so distraught, except for the little bit in

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the interrogation.

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Yeah he's well, he I mean he is just singing

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during this interrogation. He is basically admitting to everything he's

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he's doing the classic villain thing where he's gonna like.

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Let his whole plan uh be unfolded.

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But why, I just I don't know, I think And

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again I kind of mentioned the crime of Malcolm or

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not being in this. I think a bigger crime is

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we just didn't have enough time to invest in in

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his character, in Cavizl's character.

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You know, I'm not saying I want to.

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I don't want to root for him obviously because he's

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he's awful. But you know, you got to care about

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your villain in order to care about the hero.

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This film is two hours and six minutes long, if

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I I'm not mistaken. So for them to go ahead

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and add fifteen minutes here and then cut fifteen minutes there,

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just so we can get a little bit more. I mean,

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it went it so far in classic films like Patriot

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Games and things like that, to where it gives you

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that little bit of background and you're like, Okay, I

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actually am rooting for the good guy because of this. Yeah,

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and yeah, to.

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Two fun facts about Jim Cavizl before we move on.

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So you remember that scene at the end when he's

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hit by the car. Paul Patten like runs the car,

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rams in with the car. At the last minute. He

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insisted on doing it himself, even after it was explained

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to him that he could be paralyzed.

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If something goes wrong.

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Okay, you know, And if you think about that shot,

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he's it's not like there's a cutaway. I mean you're like, oh,

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did she did she just yeah, okay, something else I

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thought was kind of funny.

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The original cut they're doing like test screenings.

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Yeah, so apparently, you know, the first time Denzel actually

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sees you know, Jim Cavezel's face to face, like you know,

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because yeah, yeah, because like they're they're playing this cat

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and mouse situation. He's in the shadows or trying to

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figure out who he is. When we finally get the

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good look at Covizel's face, Denzel like had muttered just

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under his breath, like Jesus, you know, not not you know,

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but apparently because he.

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Had just been in the passion of the Christ, that audience.

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They just break out in laughter. Like there they think

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it's like an inside joke. So when Tony Scott sees this,

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he's like, okay that we got to cut that, you know,

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cut that scene.

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Cut that line because I can't have that, you know.

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And more to that point, this didn't become a too

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big of a deal, but there were a lot of people,

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apparently they a lot of religious people were upset with

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Jim Caviezel for taking this role right after playing Jesus Christ.

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I mean he did become a terrorist, a domestic terrorist

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after playing Jesus Christ. I could see there it would

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be frowned for religious community.

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Yeah, they're not the follow up they were hoping for.

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The movie also stars Bruce Greenwood, Adam Goldberg who you mentioned,

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Erica Alexander, Matt Craven, and Elden Henson of Daredevil fame.

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We got, we got all Foggy Nelson, he's our tech guy.

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I love Eldon and this one it was pretty good.

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There's, like I want to say, there's like like forty

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minutes of this movie is just in that room, yes,

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with the tech guys.

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And the more we have it, the more I want

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more of it.

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Like Adam Goldberg and Elden Henson are just and uh

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and Erica Alexander, they're they're fun to watch, Yeah, like

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explainings and they're doing their tech stuff like you know,

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let's rotate left.

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Let's do that.

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You know, it's like it's just tech babble, which you

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should get bored of after like five or ten minutes.

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But I could add more of it if I'm being honest.

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Yeah, you spend forty plus minutes maybe in this room

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with just that six person cast.

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We were attempting to use concentrated bursts of energy to

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enhance the sensitivity of optical telescopes. In the process, we

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had to break through. Given enough energy, we could warp

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the very fabricous space. I said, explain it to me,

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not talk science.

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Why don't you guys just keep talking.

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I'll just sit here until you figure out what is

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you really want to tell.

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We found a way to fold space back onto itself.

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All right.

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Look, we're used to viewing space as flat, right, like

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this piece of paper. To see something from the distance,

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light has always had to travel a long way across

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the flat space between. But given what I was trying

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to explain, we could fold the space, bring the target

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closer to us, create what's known as an Einstein Rosen bridge,

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otherwise known as a wormhole, to spend it via gravitational field.

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That's what we're looking at. That's it, basically the boating

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space in the higher dimension to create an instantaneous link

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between two distant points.

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Ineous.

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Well, that's what we hope for, and that's what we expected.

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Okay, So why can't I see this bridge?

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It's not visible for the human eye.

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I mean it's it's real though.

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It's just as real and just as solid as a

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cell phone signal or a radio app. Right.

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Well, I don't know how a cell phone works. I

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just know how to use it.

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So how do we use this we can look back for?

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And I have to ask and what we can look anywhere?

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Limited radius right.

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Right, looking into the past in the sense we're always

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looking in the past. Even light reflected from yourself in

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the mirror takes some time to reflect back.

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Let me get this straight.

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You're trying to tell me that on the other side

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of this bridge.

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Is the actual past.

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Yes, and it never grows highresome for me. I don't

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know what it is, but the back and forth are amazing.

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Insight to what they're doing is good. Like, wait, can

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she see us? Are we the ones that are there?

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And like just the explanation behind that is simply amazing.

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And I just love this little cast in there.

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Well let's uh, before I forget, let's let's let's jump

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into the a little bit about the film's background before

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I you know, I mentioned the writers were kind of,

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you know, kind of shitty about about how this, how

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this went down. And I'm not I'm not blaming. I'm

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not I'm not saying I'm taking Tony Scott's side in it.

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I'm just saying, you know, they were a little openly negative, uh,

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talking about screenwriters Bill Marsilli and Terry Rossio.

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So they come up with this.

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Time travel thriller, you know, one page treatment, uh, they

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called Prior Conviction. It's all about a cop using a

478
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time window to look into the past and solve his

479
00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:46.400
girlfriend's murder. And a couple weeks goes by, and then

480
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:50.680
Marcilly he has the idea, like, wait, the guy, the cop,

481
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:54.160
should fall in love with the girlfriend while he's watching

482
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:55.720
the last few days of her life, so like the

483
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:58.480
first time he ever even sees her should be at

484
00:25:58.519 --> 00:25:59.720
the autopsy.

485
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:02.440
You know, and then now we're off and running.

486
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:03.799
I do like that.

487
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:07.519
Yeah, I mean it's morbid and it's creepy, but at

488
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.559
the same time very cool, you know.

489
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:13.799
It is I feel like, if you do this as

490
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:19.000
Jesu's girlfriend already, I think this puts a personal kind

491
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:22.680
of point to it, whereas this is just a good

492
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.160
man trying to do the right thing and he ends

493
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.720
up falling for the girl that he's trying to save.

494
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:32.240
Yeah, so they sell this script to Jerry Bruckheimer for

495
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:39.119
an outrageous four and a half million dollars, which that's

496
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:42.319
a that's that's big, especially at this time.

497
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:42.920
It's big.

498
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:45.960
Now you know, it's still big. But once Tony Scott

499
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:50.440
is on board, that's where trouble comes to paradise. They

500
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:54.279
immediately clash with him over the vision of the film,

501
00:26:54.680 --> 00:27:01.160
and Rossio states that Scott was quote completely the wrong choice,

502
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.400
and that Tony had stated no interest in making a

503
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:09.440
science fiction film and suggested the time travel aspect be dumped.

504
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:11.119
My hope was that we.

505
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:14.039
Had a screenplay that could be the next sixth Sense.

506
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:18.799
Tony wanted to make just another also ran surveillance film.

507
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:23.920
Get here.

508
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:27.039
Yeah, well, I mean, okay, first off, let's just say

509
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:30.240
Tony Scott was wrong about dumping the time travel aspect.

510
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:37.200
Yes, so point for the screenwriters, But do you openly just.

511
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.960
Trash the director of the film that you just you know,

512
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:44.640
sold your script to for four and a half million dollars,

513
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:46.799
Like I kind of think, maybe that's not the way

514
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:47.240
you want to go.

515
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:51.440
You don't, and I mean reason being as you can

516
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:55.119
end up like a Quentin Tarantino on Natural Born Killers,

517
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.279
where they changed so much to where you can just

518
00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:59.599
be like, Okay, I'll wash my hands. You guys can

519
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:01.680
have it. You purchased it, Yeah, I'll see you later.

520
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:06.039
You could do that instead of just trashing someone that

521
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.559
is now the lead of your film.

522
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.440
So exactly that. Yeah.

523
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:11.839
Uh.

524
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:16.319
And at one point, Tony Scott quits the project, which

525
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.920
forces the writers into two weeks of rewrites.

526
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:19.920
Uh.

527
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.039
And they only do that out of fear of Denzel

528
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:23.480
walking off the picture.

529
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.720
So well, yeah, if you lose Denzel and then you

530
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.640
end up losing Jerry Bruckheimer from this deal, I mean

531
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.079
you've got nothing now. Now you've got a Yeah.

532
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:38.359
Yeah, you're your director has quit, your stars about to walk,

533
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:41.920
so fix you know whatever. They they weren't happy about

534
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:47.319
fix it immediately, yeah, and they did because, uh, after

535
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:50.680
the script revision, Denzel is so happy he goes after

536
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:52.559
Tony Scott, who you know, Yeah, I remember they had

537
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:57.200
worked together before. Yes, so he gets Scott back on board,

538
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:01.599
making Scott promise him like, you know, you will not

539
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:05.480
quit this movie. We're gonna do this together now. One

540
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.240
of the things, you know, they cut back on the

541
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.440
human story of it. They give Scott a little more action,

542
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.200
you know, a little a couple more action pieces to it.

543
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.400
Can we talk about the snow White program for a minute.

544
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.480
Yes, we can, the seventh Satellites? Absolutely, Yeah.

545
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:28.119
So it's explained to Denzel's character that this is a

546
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:35.680
digital recreation software that uses combined data from the seven satellites. Garrett,

547
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:39.039
is this just this is AI just twenty years before

548
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:40.279
what AI is currently?

549
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:46.400
It is It was recreating absolutely everything of the scenario

550
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:51.839
from seven different points of direction to narrow down exactly

551
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.880
who the killer is. So is essentially doing a who

552
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.359
done it? Through AI now? Is essentially what this is.

553
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.359
But what it just blows my mind because like you know,

554
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.200
you and I were talking off Mike and how long

555
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:07.200
it's been since we've we've watched this movie, and when

556
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.880
you think about where we're at with with AI now

557
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.000
and how dangerous it has become because it don't you know,

558
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:16.519
I get it it's it's a lot of fun you

559
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:22.000
can create, you know, silly pictures, you know, but it's

560
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.160
also it's frightening in a way and how realistic and

561
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.400
how how.

562
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:31.559
Good it is now you know, I mean absolutely right, yeah, And.

563
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:33.680
They're basically like the Snow White Program the way they

564
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.319
because Denzel's kind of he's our avatar. We're watching that,

565
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.160
We're we're along for the ride through his character, right,

566
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.960
And I'm telling you the way that Val Kilmer and

567
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:47.640
them are just kind of, you know, nonchalantly just like, oh,

568
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.960
here's how it works. They're basically describing how AI software

569
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.200
works now, yes, minus the time travel.

570
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:58.519
Of course, minus the time travel, minus you know, sending

571
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.759
leader here there or ending back a person in four days.

572
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.960
But yeah, yeah, I mean before you know, before this

573
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:09.079
movie goes full Terminator back to the future. It's it's

574
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:15.720
it's really it's fascinating and frightening at how you know,

575
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.279
what they're describing basically as the blueprint of what what

576
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:19.839
we have now, so.

577
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.680
To where you just input the data and it's like,

578
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:26.240
all right here, let's go ahead and create this world

579
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.799
for you so you can see every aspect of it.

580
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.640
And it's terrifying because again, you can watch any AI

581
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:36.079
video today and half the time you won't know it's AI.

582
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:38.759
Yeah, uh, chat GPT.

583
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.200
You know, make me a picture of Garrett Gibson jumping

584
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:46.079
off the Knockatommy tower building like Bruce Willis and put

585
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.599
a put a machine gun in its hand and it's

586
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:50.759
going to render it in a couple of minutes and

587
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:51.160
it's going to.

588
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:51.720
Look just like you.

589
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.200
Yeah, it's crazy, It's absolutely crazy. Garret. Let's take a

590
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:58.559
quick break because I know there's a scene you want

591
00:31:58.559 --> 00:31:59.759
to talk about. There's a scene I want to talk

592
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.279
about up and we'll do that just after this.

593
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:09.279
All right, So let's talk about the scene, Garrett. You

594
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:11.599
know last time, you know, it's been a while for you.

595
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:14.319
You know, we used to talk about the pivotal moment, yes,

596
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:16.480
but now but now we've kind of opened it up.

597
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:20.920
So I want you, I know you got a scene

598
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:22.720
in mind that you want to talk about. My question

599
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.680
before we talk about your scene, I want to know

600
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.000
why it was chosen. Is it is it because of

601
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:33.200
the cinematography, is it for a strong performance? Is it

602
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:37.240
the visual effects? Is it the pivotal moment? Or hey,

603
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:41.599
new option that's that's been popping up. Is it a

604
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:46.400
scene that didn't piss Amber Lewis off? What do you

605
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.319
What scene do you want to talk about and why? So?

606
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.160
The scene I would like to talk about is the

607
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.759
wrap up after they catch Jim Caviezel and they're like, yeah,

608
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.599
you know, he admitted to it. Denzel's hung up on

609
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.240
well we don't have him on the murder of Paula Patten,

610
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.279
and they're like, yeah, well, you know that's incidental. We've

611
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.319
got him on the ferry, we've got him on killing

612
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.359
the federal agent. We don't need anything. So for me,

613
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.839
this scene is the best scene in the film, just

614
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.680
because he goes that extra mile. He's got the heart,

615
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:26.319
he's got the drive. He wants to give her father

616
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:28.920
a closure. But as soon as he realizes that he

617
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.319
can actually use this to prevent the crime, he's willing

618
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.720
to even sacrifice his own life to try and prevent

619
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.640
the crime because he's come to know this woman over

620
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.799
the past four days, seeing every intimate detail of her life.

621
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.519
So you're okay, so you're going pivotal moment.

622
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:50.400
And yeah, like we saw that it it did a

623
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:54.240
decent job of putting a note on his desk, this

624
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:56.400
time travel technology.

625
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:58.200
Yeah that backfired.

626
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:02.279
But yeah, and then you know, and they kind of

627
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:06.759
warned him like, hey, yeah, you know the electromagnetic pulse,

628
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.000
you know, your your brain activity, your heart rate, like

629
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:10.599
a lot of a lot of bad things can happen.

630
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:15.559
Yes, and denzelgent he goes for it. He does.

631
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:18.840
Now this is one of the Okay, I think this

632
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:21.719
is one of these situations where you can't get too

633
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:26.239
bogged down in the science of time travel, right, you know,

634
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:28.679
because that's you know, like kind of like a like

635
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.880
Austin Powers trying to explain it, what his way through it,

636
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:33.440
and then oh no, I've gone cross side, you know.

637
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:36.840
Just just watch it's time travel.

638
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.639
Just watch, you know, because at first I'm like, okay,

639
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:43.880
you know, our guy Adam Goldberg's like, who whoa whoa

640
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:49.079
you know, as little molecule, he says, something mass as possible.

641
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.280
So you can't carry your gun, you can't you know,

642
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:52.920
take your.

643
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.360
You know, you know, empty your pockets. But then he's like, yeah,

644
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.360
you take everything off. Now you can keep your underwear on.

645
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.280
I mean, okay, you know, so it's not terminator where

646
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.159
just you know, only you know, flesh can go through.

647
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:05.400
But I don't know.

648
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.880
I'm a little worried if I'm if if you're redigitizing

649
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:12.840
me somewhere, maybe the molecules from my My Boxer briefs.

650
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.360
End up inside You're like or something.

651
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.000
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah. You can't, Yeah, you can't. You

652
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:20.039
can't get bogged down in it.

653
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.280
But then you've got a superhero movie called fabric Man.

654
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.880
And Bam Go Buddy Denzel Washington and Fabric Man.

655
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:33.480
Yeah no, but I I'm with you because, like I said,

656
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:37.639
he is I love even with the the interrogator, the interrogation,

657
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:41.880
with the with caviasl He's got the laughing, the you know,

658
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.119
uh you know that that Denzel that we love.

659
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:48.079
But he also he's kind of a broken guy.

660
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:51.719
Like he he's you know, he's gone through a lot

661
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.119
of loss, which he hints at that we don't really see.

662
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:57.039
But he's willing to risk everything just to just to

663
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.519
save this girl and and I think get the opportunity

664
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:00.800
to be with.

665
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.440
Her so honestly, and that's what it is, and that's

666
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:10.039
why ultimately and then his sacrifice is just heartbreaking.

667
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:12.159
Yeah, and.

668
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.800
But no, I mean it to me, like I said,

669
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.119
definitely the pivotal role because the way Val Kilmer and

670
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.960
Bruce Greenwood's characters break it down, it is like it's

671
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:24.559
case closed. You don't need to work about it.

672
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:26.000
The day at the office. We're good.

673
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:30.000
Yeah, yeah, you know, I gotta tell you one more

674
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.079
thing before you know, and I'll quit picking on time

675
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:32.800
trap on this movie.

676
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:34.519
But let's just say this.

677
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.800
Let's say he you know, because he saves the girl,

678
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.159
he stops the fairy explosion, but it's at the risk

679
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.239
of you know, he kind of does like a Batman

680
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:48.599
in the dark Knight returns. You know, he drives the

681
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.719
le bronco off the off the boat and you know

682
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.719
he's trapped and it explodes.

683
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.920
But let's say he gets out.

684
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.239
Now we're we got you know, there's no way going

685
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.519
you know, you can't go there's there's you can go back,

686
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:02.559
but you can't go forward.

687
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:06.800
Right, So what was his plan? You think of just

688
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.239
being you know, four days in the past and now

689
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:10.719
there's two.

690
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:14.119
Of them about just twin brothers. Is for the rest

691
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.039
of his life or well?

692
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:21.039
You know, I mean, yeah, even if he's okay with that,

693
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:22.800
you gotta think past.

694
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:27.599
You know, Denzel, that might not work for him too well,

695
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:32.760
you know, like now, if if if four days from now,

696
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.400
Jeff Johnson knocks on my door right now, I mean

697
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:41.599
after I, you know, collect myself and and I'm sure

698
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:43.559
I'll think it's cool. That's what we'll hold on. Now,

699
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:45.840
I don't what are you gonna do? You can't just

700
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.559
run around being me, you know, Like, I don't know.

701
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:51.880
I just wonder, like what was Denzel's plan after he

702
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.679
says the girl, We'll never know. It's like, you can't,

703
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:54.239
you can't know.

704
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.519
But now one thing I will pick on about time travel,

705
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.320
and that will think's right. There is all the cops

706
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:04.400
that saw him having the fight and talk with Jim

707
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:09.480
Cavizl and everything on about the ship. There, all those

708
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:12.199
cops are still present Whendel walks back up at the

709
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.920
end of the film, none of I'm like, no, that's

710
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:15.320
not him.

711
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:18.199
Hey, hold on, is that Maybe that's not him?

712
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:21.280
I think, but that's probably not Doug. Nah, don't worry

713
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:21.599
about it.

714
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:25.079
Yeah, all right, So I gotta see what I want

715
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:29.639
to talk about. And I'm picking this one for the cinematography,

716
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:32.119
for the for the visual effects of it, and we're

717
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:33.840
going to go right back to the beginning. I'm talking

718
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:38.840
about the opening explosion of the ferry. So it's Fat Tuesday.

719
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.239
Sailors from the Ussnimics are coming home, They're celebrating, families

720
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.559
are reuniting, kids are playing on the deck. There's a

721
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:52.679
band playing, and meanwhile, ninety four Bronco is sitting below

722
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:56.039
with the keys in the ignition and the radio playing

723
00:38:56.079 --> 00:39:00.079
the Beach Boys. Don't worry baby with a bomb low.

724
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:00.639
It in the back.

725
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:01.480
Now.

726
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:04.480
I don't know you, Garrett, but at this point, our

727
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:06.840
friend def Dave shoots to the top of the suspect

728
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:08.119
list at the beginning of this movie.

729
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:11.639
I'm just gonna it's gonna blare the Beach Boys and

730
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.719
head on out. Yeah, where's deaf Dave? At is he is?

731
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.679
He's down in New Orleans, is what I'm asking myself.

732
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:24.079
I believe so. But this explosion is nothing short of spectacular.

733
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:25.519
I'm talking about it.

734
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:29.800
It's a brilliant display of cinema with with the fire,

735
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:33.719
the debris, the black smoke, launching vehicles and bodies into

736
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:34.599
the Mississippi River.

737
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.320
I can I walk you through this real quick?

738
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:38.920
Absolutely all right?

739
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:44.480
Because Tony Scott has visual effects editor Mark Verisco with him,

740
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:49.840
and you know they've worked before and deja vous boasts

741
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:54.360
like four hundred visual effects. Now, what makes this so

742
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:58.199
incredible is the fact that the explosion of the ferry

743
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:04.280
wasn't CGI, and it wasn't a model. It was an

744
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:08.280
actual New Orleans ferry that was sectioned off for safety.

745
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:09.360
Really.

746
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:12.920
Oh now, now here's where you're really your mind's gonna

747
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:14.639
get blown like the ferry.

748
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:15.000
Uh.

749
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:22.079
The pyrotechnics expert spends four hours coating the entire faerry

750
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:27.360
with fire retardant and then rigs fifty gasoline bombs packed.

751
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:28.440
With dirt and diesel fuel.

752
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:34.519
The real explosion that is captured on film unbelievably does

753
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:39.760
very minimal structural damage, if any, to the actual boat,

754
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.440
and after Cruise sand blasted and repainted the ferry, it

755
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:47.480
was returned to service four days after production ended.

756
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:49.159
Get the heck out of here.

757
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.599
This They blew it up, except they blew it up

758
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:53.480
in a way that the.

759
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:56.079
Boat is fine, Like yeah, no, we've got this.

760
00:40:56.760 --> 00:41:00.920
Yeah, Like you know, now, think about this, like weeks before,

761
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:03.039
like they're in pre production and weeks before they're supposed

762
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:08.000
to start rolling cameras. Yeah, in New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina

763
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:14.119
hits and basically destroys New Orleans, as we know, because

764
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.000
originally the film was supposed to I think the film

765
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:20.480
was supposed to take place in Long Island, and Tony

766
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.159
Scott was like, no, I think New Orleans would look

767
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.079
a lot cooler, you know. So they go down there,

768
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:27.639
and then the hurricane hits, and now they're like, well,

769
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.360
what are we going to do? Well, they wait, they

770
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.639
kind of delay production, and then Hurricane Katrina kind of

771
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:35.920
makes its way into this film.

772
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:36.320
You know.

773
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:40.719
They talk about, you know, the devastation, they talk about rebuilding,

774
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:42.400
and a lot of the damage you see in the

775
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.159
movie is real for that reason.

776
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.199
So, like when they visit Jim Covizel's second property and

777
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.039
they find all that, yeah, yeah, And.

778
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:59.039
So the cool thing here is that they decided to

779
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:00.519
come back to New Orleans.

780
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:05.440
Uh, Tony Scott, Denzel and I think Val Kilmer and

781
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.079
Jim Cabezel they hold a press conference and they say, hey,

782
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:11.239
we are committed to filming here, and we are going

783
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:16.880
to hire as many people as we can locally to

784
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.760
help put money back into this this area, put money

785
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:24.920
back into the city and uh, and and help rebuild.

786
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:27.320
So that's awesome, I think.

787
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.800
And then you turn around and tell New Orleans like, oh,

788
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.880
by the way, uh, yeah, you got any fairies that

789
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:35.599
we can we can blow up.

790
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.800
We're not gonna blow it up all the way we promised.

791
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:38.719
We won't destroy it.

792
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:40.920
But we can get it put back together. I got

793
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:42.239
Lego said in like three days.

794
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.159
Yeah, it'll just need some sand blasting, a little bit

795
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:46.639
of a little bit of paint it.

796
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:47.360
It'll be fine.

797
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:50.800
And and amazingly enough, it was fine like that. You know,

798
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.480
I just can't believe that what we saw on screen

799
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:58.679
is real. And then a couple weeks later, you're if

800
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.599
you're in New Orleans, you're you're getting on that ferry.

801
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:06.440
So the cinematographer for this film was Paul Cameron. Correct, Oh, yes,

802
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:10.440
I believe so absolutely amazing work on this film. You're yeah,

803
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:12.559
you're right. The cinematography is awesome.

804
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:18.039
Yeah, And to this day, that explosion for the faery, yes,

805
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:21.559
the biggest, the biggest stunt ever filmed in New Orleans.

806
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:26.880
Really. Yeah, that's honestly hard to believe with how crazy

807
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:27.960
New Orleans gets.

808
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:32.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'll.

809
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:34.480
Just just for people fact checking me right now, because

810
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.719
I did say it wasn't the explosion wasn't cgi the

811
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:42.320
explosion wasn't but the the flaming bodies.

812
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.119
And some of the debris that you see flying out

813
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.599
of the out of the boat that that obviously cgi

814
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:48.880
you know.

815
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:53.639
Yeah, but yeah, real cars getting dumped into the Mississippi River.

816
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:55.679
And when they're doing the underwater shots.

817
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.239
They did not have four hundred and fifty three cane

818
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.039
hotters willing to be livet on fire for this project.

819
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:02.480
They did not know.

820
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.400
They did not speaking of four hundred and fifty three

821
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:09.000
kent hiters, let's run the numbers on this one. Deja

822
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.800
Vu was released November twenty second, two thousand and six,

823
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.119
with a runtime of two hours and six minutes. Mister Gibson,

824
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:18.760
you were absolutely down to the minute correct on that.

825
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.880
It opened in the number three spot, behind Happy Feet,

826
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:29.880
which we won't be covering on this season, and Casino Reale,

827
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:31.599
which we definitely will be covering.

828
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:31.960
On this season.

829
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:34.119
Absolutely love Casino Royale.

830
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:35.559
Kah, We'll get to it.

831
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.480
With a fourteen week run in theaters, it grossed one

832
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:43.239
hundred and eighty point six million dollars from a budget

833
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:48.039
of seventy five million, Garrett. It ranked seventh on the

834
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:53.559
top ten highest grossing Denzel Washington movies, which is.

835
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:57.440
Hard to believe when you look at everything Denzel's.

836
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.440
Done in his career. Do you know what's more unbelievable?

837
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.320
What's here? Don't tell me? Training Days under this am

838
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:05.840
somehow don't don't do it, Jeff, I.

839
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:06.360
Gotta do it.

840
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:10.559
Training Day is not in the top ten highest grossing

841
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:14.280
Denzel Washington movies. It grossed one hundred and four point

842
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:16.599
nine million, and I think number two.

843
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:17.719
There's a tie at number ten.

844
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:20.199
Hold on, let me, let me, let me help you

845
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.880
out here, because I was like, where I'm looking at

846
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:26.760
this list, I'm like Wor's Training Day. Actually, Crimson Tide

847
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.920
and The Book of Eli are tied at number ten

848
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.519
each with one hundred and fifty seven million dollars.

849
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:34.880
Both great films. So yeah, I can see that.

850
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.920
Yeah, if you want to, you want, yeah, you want

851
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:38.920
to take a stab at what?

852
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:45.920
What crime thriller is the number one Denzel Washington highest

853
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:46.559
grossing picture.

854
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:50.199
I'm going to say it's got to be Man on Fire?

855
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:52.880
Right, Man on Fire?

856
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:53.960
Uh?

857
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:56.079
Not in the top ten?

858
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.880
What did Okay, we were looking for.

859
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.840
Equalizers? Number five? Okay, hard to believe, right, dude?

860
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.480
Yeah, if you want the number one Denzel Washington movie

861
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:14.719
as far as highest performing or highest grossing as it were,

862
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.239
You're looking at American Gangster with two hundred and sixty

863
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:20.159
seven million dollars.

864
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.920
Okay, that is one of my favorite all time Denzel movies,

865
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:28.159
and the good Josh Brolin credits that for saving his career.

866
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.679
Could you imagine, I mean think about Brolin was in

867
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:36.679
what three of what I feel are the ten best

868
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:38.519
movies of twenty twenty five last year?

869
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:40.480
Oh yeah, no, he was.

870
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:44.840
So he's been doing a lot of great work, especially

871
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:47.320
since he got into Avengers and all that stuff.

872
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:52.239
And yeah, well yeah, but I mean Weapons, the Running Man.

873
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:56.119
I love Running Man, Wake Up Dead Man. I mean,

874
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.800
Brolin is in just rare form these days, and I

875
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:01.159
love it.

876
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:02.639
Yeah.

877
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:08.199
He did an interview not too long ago, but he's

878
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:10.280
telling the story about Denzel on the set of that.

879
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.320
He's like, I give my line. He's like, I put

880
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.039
my hand on Denzel's shoulder and he's like, he smacks

881
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:18.760
it off, and he's like, don't you have to touch

882
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:22.719
me again? And he's like, he does his laugh. He's like, so,

883
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.119
I wasn't sure if he was serious or not. He's like,

884
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:27.280
but when we reshot the scene. I didn't put my

885
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:28.800
hand on his shoulder again.

886
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:34.840
Smart man. How about a ranking?

887
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:41.280
Garrett Top Gun and Beverly Hills Cop two are Tony

888
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:46.079
Scott films that featured characters that would reprise their roles

889
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:51.599
in one or more sequels. We're there's you know, we're

890
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:55.000
in pre production on a third Top Gun film. We're

891
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:58.440
now hearing that Days of Thunders Cold Trickle maybe returning.

892
00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:59.960
In a follow up story as well.

893
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.679
So with that in mind, I want you to rank

894
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:09.239
the following Tony Scott movies by how badly you would

895
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:12.480
have wanted to see? All right, movies that these don't

896
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.400
They don't exist obviously, but they could have, they should have,

897
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:18.400
and I want you to rank them. I'm gonna give

898
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:19.840
you three, so you just go. You go from three

899
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:21.599
to one on how badly you want to see these?

900
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:23.239
Are you ready for your choices?

901
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:28.960
Yes, Sir Crimson tied two with the Number two, starring

902
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:32.519
Denzel in a return to the role of Hunter, who

903
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:36.719
is now captain of an Ohio class nuclear powered submarine,

904
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.280
which are considered the dead list in the military history

905
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:45.480
due to the magnitude of their strategic strike capabilities. I

906
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:48.719
don't know who we're fighting, but just crisis with the submarine.

907
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:51.280
Denzel back on the boat.

908
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.800
I like it, okay. Deja Vu two as in t.

909
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:03.599
Starring Denzel as alternate timeline agent Doug Carlin being recruited

910
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.199
once more into the Snow White Program to stop a

911
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:12.920
political assassination that happened or will happen, depending on where.

912
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.360
You're at in the timeline. That's number two, okay.

913
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.719
And then lastly, how about a Man on Fire prequel

914
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:25.400
starring Denzel's son, John David Washington as a young John

915
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:28.960
Creasy during his time in the CIA. That's your three

916
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.000
h rank them for me?

917
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:35.760
Deja Vu too, and that's going down to number three

918
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:42.119
for me right off rep Okay, I'm just saying, as

919
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:44.760
much as I would love to see that, just because

920
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:49.159
you know, him going back to avoid a presidential assassination,

921
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:51.119
that would be a great film, and I would watch

922
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:54.000
it ten out ten times. That being said, that's number

923
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:57.639
three for me, all right. I would put Man on

924
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.719
Fire at number two as much as I His son,

925
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.320
the great actor, and I would love to see his

926
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:05.920
time and a CIA. Oh my gosh, it'd be amazing.

927
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.800
But Crimson tied too, Oh my gosh. Now, I was

928
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.119
one hundred and ten percent behind this film. Yeah, now

929
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.679
that would be my number one I would want to

930
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:15.079
see us.

931
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:16.880
It's got to be the number one.

932
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:21.360
And the idea that that Hunter is now kind of

933
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:24.880
age appropriate, the same as like Gene Hackman was in

934
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:29.760
the original and maybe this time, maybe maybe Hunter might

935
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:30.320
have it wrong.

936
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:34.880
You know, I think we'd get more from the character.

937
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:35.880
I think you're right.

938
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.079
Yeah, that would have been Yeah, I think all three

939
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:42.519
of these would have been amazing. Let's take one last

940
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:44.239
break and then we'll wrap things up.

941
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:47.440
Welcome back.

942
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:53.239
We're about to wrap up our Tony Scott deja vu episode.

943
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:54.599
Garrett.

944
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:58.440
In the past, we've always talked about, Hey, you know,

945
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:01.960
someone you know just saw this movie, they love the director.

946
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:05.519
What three movies would you recommend? Which you know, they

947
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.559
gave us a chance to talk about some blockbuster movies.

948
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.599
Yeah, we're reversing it. We're reversing the reversal now.

949
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:18.559
So whether it's written by, directed by, or starring, which

950
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:24.599
underrated project would you suggest someone check out from Tony Scott.

951
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:29.320
I think The Fan with Wesley Snipes and Robert de

952
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:34.119
Niro is okay underrated film, but I absolutely freaking love it.

953
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.199
Robert de Niro plays an amazing psycho in that film.

954
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:43.880
Yeah, it's always great to see Wesley Snipes, you know,

955
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.239
any movie where he's playing an athlete, because he's done

956
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:46.960
it so many times.

957
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:49.079
I believe it for one thing.

958
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.920
But yeah, de Niro, he's kind of he's kind of

959
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:56.079
pulling some of that Max Katie Travis Bickell energy.

960
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:59.920
Right. Yeah, it's a great film. Yeah.

961
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.119
Yeah, look Azamo I'm a I'm a Yeahzamo fan in

962
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:04.639
that one too.

963
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:06.039
That's that's another good one.

964
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.920
And yeah, I and another person I forget that's in it,

965
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:13.000
Elnisio del Toro. Oh yeah, that's right, the hot shot. Yeah,

966
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:13.800
he's the hot shot.

967
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.840
Now we'll put that on the putting that on the

968
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:20.960
short list when we get back to our normally normal

969
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.639
schedule program next season. We you know, we're doing underrated

970
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:26.280
stuff again. We might have talked about the fan can

971
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:27.239
I can I give you one?

972
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:28.599
What's here?

973
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:28.880
Brother?

974
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:29.719
Uh?

975
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.239
Two thousand and one Spy Game?

976
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.920
Okay, Now, at the moment, it is not on.

977
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.400
The list for this year because again we're re covering

978
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:42.199
movies from two thousand and one to two thousand and six.

979
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:45.960
But it's just hard to believe that that it is

980
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.400
a very underrated film despite the fact that it stars

981
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:53.199
Robert Redford and Brad Pitt. Uh. You know, it had

982
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:56.079
a quiet box office though, and when you mentioned the title,

983
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:57.039
most people don't remember it.

984
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:02.559
No, not at all. But honestly, loved Robert Redford in

985
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:04.960
this film, and it's one of the first roles I

986
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:09.480
actually started to care for Brad Pitt's acting, honestly, because

987
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:12.000
it is before I see a lot of his like

988
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:15.199
inglorious bastards and stuff like that, which is where I

989
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:19.159
absolutely started loving him. As he got into his silver

990
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.400
silver Age kind of acting capabilities, I didn't care for

991
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:25.079
young man brad Pitt that much.

992
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:28.360
But yeah, speaking of Brad Pitt, do you happen to

993
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:33.760
know what lead role in a blockbuster franchise he said

994
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:37.639
no to in order to do spy game with Redford.

995
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:44.639
Hm, oh, my gosh, Uh, what what genre are we

996
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:48.039
under here? Like we go on to action adventure?

997
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:55.079
We yeah, absolutely, full throttle action blockbuster franchise, several films

998
00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:56.199
in the series.

999
00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:00.920
My gosh, I'm trying to think because everything heady and

1000
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:01.400
it's two.

1001
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:03.280
Thousand and one. Think about it's two thousand.

1002
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:05.880
And one, right, now you've got me. I don't know

1003
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:06.719
what we got.

1004
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:11.119
Brad Pitt said no to the Born Identity.

1005
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:14.400
Oh shoot, okay, yeah.

1006
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:18.000
When asked why he took Spy Game over Born Identity,

1007
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:22.440
he told the media he committed to Spy Game quote

1008
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:24.760
basically because Bob was on board.

1009
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:27.079
Though there it is. I mean they were friends.

1010
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:31.079
So, I mean a lot of actors do tie themselves

1011
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:34.480
to films just because just a chance to work with

1012
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.960
a director or an actor that they really like. I mean,

1013
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:40.440
we've talked about it before on here Kanu just to

1014
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.920
work with Gene Hackman. He's like, no, I'm taking that haycut,

1015
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.199
which absolutely you have to have both of those actors

1016
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:46.840
in that film.

1017
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:51.400
Yeah, Garrett, your thoughts are You're closing thoughts.

1018
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:56.239
Your recommendation or your non recommendation when it comes to

1019
00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:57.880
Tony Scott's Deja Vu.

1020
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.000
So I'm going to go ahead, and it is a

1021
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.360
must watch. Like I said, this is part of Golden

1022
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:09.280
era Denzel for me, Like I said, from about nineteen

1023
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:12.880
ninety eight till about twenty ten, every film, whether it's

1024
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:18.280
John Q, This Training Day, so many more that I'm

1025
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:20.960
just blanking on because he did so much great stuff.

1026
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:24.800
Over those few, like twelve year span, I would say,

1027
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:29.079
go watch this as soon as you can. I would

1028
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:32.119
watch it multiple times because I appreciated it more this

1029
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:35.400
time than I did originally watching it. And I'll go

1030
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:39.239
back in four days and tell you the exact same thing.

1031
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:42.400
Yo, perfect man.

1032
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:43.320
Uh.

1033
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:46.280
It's streaming on Hulu, but it's available to rent on

1034
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:47.760
most platforms.

1035
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:51.719
I know I watched it on Prime when you recommended

1036
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:52.400
I do, so.

1037
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.000
I'm pretty sure if we weren't doing two thousand and

1038
00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:59.239
one and two thousand and six movies this season, we

1039
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.400
would eventually find our way to this one. It's very

1040
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.760
underrated as far as Tony Scott films go, and it's

1041
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:10.280
a fantastic watch. Absolutely Before we go, though, can I

1042
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:13.159
can I just give you one last thing that kind

1043
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:16.199
of irks me. I don't want to end on a

1044
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:22.079
on a But in the final scene with alternate Timeline Denzel,

1045
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:26.079
they're sitting in the in the car and they're listening

1046
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:27.960
to the Beach Boys song again.

1047
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:33.519
Yes, buddy.

1048
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:37.519
He's kind of lost in the moment and Paula Patten's like,

1049
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.920
what is it? And you know, he doesn't say anything,

1050
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:44.599
but it's a huge missed opportunity for him to say the.

1051
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:49.039
Movie's title in the dialogue. He's literally experiencing deja vu.

1052
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:52.960
Why not just have him say nothing? Just a little

1053
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:53.480
deja vu?

1054
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:56.360
I guess it absolutely killed me on the rewatch.

1055
00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.079
Yeah, I was like, cause, like, he's sitting there.

1056
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:01.119
I was like, oh, because I you know, like you

1057
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.079
I forgot, And he's sitting there and he's kind of

1058
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:05.719
he's kind of listening to the beat the Beach Boys song,

1059
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:07.800
and I'm like, say it.

1060
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:10.480
He's gonna say it. Here he comes and she's like

1061
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:14.639
what what is it? And he's like like what, No,

1062
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:15.320
say it?

1063
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:18.199
What are we doing?

1064
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:21.679
What are we doing? Come on? Oh?

1065
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:25.760
Well, uh, next time on a film by we'll be

1066
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:31.840
talking more Denzel Washington because we got Antoine Fuquas two

1067
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:37.480
thousand and one cop thriller Training Day. Whoa, Garrett, You're

1068
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:41.840
with me next week? So uh, it's a Denzel double

1069
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:46.559
double double shot listeners. If you've seen it, how would

1070
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:50.639
you summarize Training Day in exactly five words?

1071
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.039
I think I think Garrison come back. He's gonna stun

1072
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.639
us with now that he knows the rules of the game.

1073
00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.960
It's gonna be fun action thriller film.

1074
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:04.119
You leie that shit on the outside.

1075
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:11.360
Yeah, listeners, tell us how you would explain training day

1076
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:15.599
in five words exactly. Uh, go to www dot a

1077
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:18.599
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1078
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:21.639
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1079
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:24.679
at gmail dot com. If we use your five word

1080
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.199
synopsis on the show, we'll shout you out on the episode.

1081
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:30.000
We'll even give you some a Film by swag.

1082
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:34.280
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1083
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1084
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1085
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:40.000
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1086
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1087
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1088
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1089
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1091
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1092
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lot of our listeners. I've I've fielded a couple of complaints,

1093
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.400
you know, you know, people are like, I didn't like

1094
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:10.920
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1095
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Like, okay, well, you know we can talk about it. Listen.

1096
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:14.599
Uh.

1097
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:16.519
That's what that's what it's there for. That's why the

1098
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:17.760
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1099
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1100
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1101
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1102
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:36.559
taking your requests for future episodes, and debating great movies. Garrett,

1103
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:39.239
I am already excited to come back next week and

1104
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:41.239
debate Training Day with you.

1105
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:43.119
Busy month for you.

1106
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.000
You know you took January off, so here you're the

1107
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:48.360
You're the guy in February. Hey, you're back up about

1108
00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:49.639
every every episode, aren't you.

1109
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.760
I'm all for it. We're gonna go ahead and blaze

1110
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.039
through February. But it's gonna be a fun month. Brother,

1111
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:57.280
got plenty in January, Let's get it.

1112
00:59:57.679 --> 00:59:58.679
It absolutely will be.

1113
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:01.320
Uh so for all of you you out there listening

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