Phasers Set To Stun: Starfleet Academy S1. E3 - Vitus Reflux

0:01 Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows, both new and old, to engage in debate about all things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt. Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set to Stunt.

0:43 In this ongoing series from a film by podcast, we continue to show our love for every quadrant of the expanding Star Trek universe by covering television, animation, movies, directors, merchandise, and much more. Plodding to Chris as always as your core Trek crew, I'm Scott Aufman. I'm David Burns, and I'm Wayne Whited. And in this episode, we're happy to continue our coverage of Starfleet Academy. In this episode, we're up to episode three, Vetus Reflux, written by Alex taub Kylie Rossiter and directed by Doug Arondiokowski. Apologies if I got those wrong. It's my first time with these. But speaking of new, this is obviously fresh out of the Phaser banks, so calling for a red alert on spoilers. If you haven't seen this latest episode, or actually this past week's episode, please go watch and come back to join us. All right, let's get right into it and break it down, Wayne, why don't you give a summary of this latest episode.

1:46 Cadet Darren Rainey tries to prove himself and competes with the equally driven Genesis, while tensions rise between the Cadets and the rival War College through escalating pranks, Instructor Lura Thock pushes the cad that's hard and when Chancellor aches guidance, introduces them to the Ftus Reflux, a rare fungus sensitive to emotions. The rivalry intensifies when both schools fight for dominance in the Elite Calika team trials, leading to a secret late night match, which fails after Darren's reckless leadership and a stern intervention. After confiding in Jet Reno and confronting his strained family ties, Dream reconciles with Genesis and begins to understand the value of empathy and shared leadership.

2:32 Thanks Wayne, I know that I have to I have to catch up with first reactions to this, and I got us say, Dave, in the last episode, your Hogwarts call was totally on point. I think it's exactly what Star Trek needs. New Blood, new ideas with respect and reverence to those that come before it. I love the Voyager Ties, even though I've not seen most of Voyager, but Robert Riccardo brings it every single time. The Little Prodigy odds, the attitude, the heart, it all reminds me of things like Lower Decks, and I think it's I think it's what Star Trek meets. So I'm one word with both of you on that. Yeah. Also the barefoot Captain vibe.

3:16 The very casual captain vibe going on. She sits in, she sits in every seat like a cat claiming it, and it's there's a lot of like Dumbledore in this one especially, And yeah, with the Calica game, reminded me a lot of Gryffindor versus Slytherin. So anybody who's a fan of that kind of idea and you're looking throw away into Star Trek, I would say this is the way to go. Is that fair? Yeah? I mean even even with the Invita reflex plant, it's like her Bology and her Harry Potter. Yeah, you've got the screaming plants. I mean here here this is with with this repeating people, which I thought was hysterical, but I mean, yeah, this has got This is got Harry Potter written all over it, and I'm here for it, man, here for it.

4:02 Yeah, Wayne, what were your first thoughts on this latest episode? Does it hold up with the rest of you the first two? Oh? Yeah, I mean I really liked the episode. I think I like the first two a little bit better. But you know, I'm not putting this downd because I really did enjoy this episode. It's really gets into the look of the academy and the students, and I like that, especially the difference between the two colleges. I know David and I talked about we were hoping that they would do more with War College, and I'm glad they did. But a lot of humor here, but there's also that strong message, which I really like. It's just so different from Star Trek. It really is something very, very different than what we've seen before.

4:46 It's definitely a shock to the system for people who have been around Star Trek for sixty years. You know, it is a different take on it. And like Wayne, like you and I talked about last episode, it's what is needed this franchise to keep growing and make those changes. But I like the fact that we're with these young cadets, getting to know them, getting to watch them learn what you know, star Fleet is all about getting to know what their specialties are, and you know, down the road, because you know it's going to happen. Eventually, they're gonna be caught in the situations that they're gonna have to put these experiences into play because the crap's going to hit the fan. And I can't wait to see that because then you're really gonna start seeing these characters growing and helping each other because you know, even though you've got this rivalry between the War College and the academy, which is fun and I'm glad that they're doing this because again that brings a uniqueness to Star Trek, but you know, eventually they're going to have to help each other without question.

5:48 Well yeah, well, I mean they're they're growing towards that. You know, last two episodes we saw the rivalry between each other in their own college, and they seem to in this episode come together and work very very well together to go against the War College. And I like that growth because we're seeing a lot of character growth in this series, and that's what it's perfect. Patience and growth, right, yeah, yeah, I mean it's a like this episode I think was a good look at how not with a lot of star Trek. It's kind of like the Weekly Crisis, right, the big thing that could be, you know, have big implications for a star system, if not the galaxy. But in this it's really just about looking at those different facets of Starfleet, right, the learning and the exploration. They're getting into that a lot more, which is a perfect way to analyze it, but also to rebuild the Federation or rebuild I guess rebuilding both, right, yeah, because not everybody is excited to be there. I mean, Caleb seems like he's basically serving out his sentence until he's ready to leave. Raymie has very different ideas about what Starfleet should be. It almost seems like he's kind of maybe more fit for war College, at least in the beginning of this episode. But I think it's an interesting way to look at Starfleet Academy at a time

7:20 when it's not everybody thinking that Starfleet is wonderful, not everything, but you're thinking in the Federation is perfect, but seeing the potential for it, wanting to build it into their own thing. I think that's the unique twist on it right there. You know, back in the old days, you know which week, I guess we can say that now, back in the old days compared with this, Yeah, yeah, but you know, back then Starfleet was established, you knew what was going on, you know, the Prime Directive, you had all of that stuff going. And I'm not saying they're throwing Prime Directive out the door or anything like that, because we really haven't got to that point here in the academy. But you definitely feel a different vibe going on with Starfleet. Yes, you know, the rebuilding, but you're definitely feeling because they have got a war college now, which Starfleet back in nowadays would not had that at all because they didn't believe in that. Granted it was a necessity at times, but they would have to you know, push themselves into that that you know, at times they weren't prepared for it.

8:17 But now they realize that that's something that they have to have. But I still don't think they're going to push that agenda saying, hey, you know, we're just going to be a war mongering organization. That's not the case. They still want peace and all that kind of thing. But they know that they have to have that sitting there. But one of the things I love about this is the fact they realized how good Lower Decks worked with its comedy, with its characters, that they've pulled that into this And you can definitely see the already development of these characters in the comedy between them is exactly what was in Lower Decks. So I'm glad they realized that was working and that's what the fans want, and they're putting it in this too.

9:02 Yeah, I mean it's it's it makes it a lot more attractive and approachable for a broader audience, right, And it also, you know, takes the piss out of it a little bit, so that it's not having to treat everything so seriously and making somebody think that in order to get Star Trek, I need to start way back at og go through catalogs of everything just to be ready to watch this. You really don't. I mean, it would, it would be beneficial if you did, but it's not really necessary. I think that's one of the helpful things. And yeah, it doesn't seem like it's it's trying to reach into Hey, we did a you know, Kirk's grandson is here or the latest generation of Spock or anything else like that. There's little drips and drabs of it, but it doesn't lean into it too much.

9:51 Well, I think you hit the core what they're trying to do with this series. I mean, there's a lot of stigma with the Star Trek, and when it comes to new viewers, you know, there's you know, sixty years, there's a lot of stuff to do again, and if you look back at the other series, lots of continuity, new new fans would be really tough getting into it. And I think they're trying to make this They're still trying to make it so that us old time fans still love going and watching it. Old timers, old timers, Yeah, that's it. But they want to they want to bring in the new audience, which they really need. Star Trek needs. It needs that bad and I think I think this they're succeeding. At least I hope they are. I don't know what the ratings are, of course they haven't announced as yet, but I mean this series is so well constructed towards getting new viewers in. I hope that it does. I hope they're able to succeed with's what they're trying to do.

10:43 Well. One thing is for sure, they're definitely loose with the language that Star Trek never used to have. I mean, just her throwing around shit like it's nothing. I'm like, wow, that's kind of weird to hear that in Star Trek, like it's common practice. You don't hear that a lot, but it is. It's it's it's in the dialect here, and I'm okay with it, to be honest with you. It needs to catch up to the modern times, which is kind of funn you're talking about it as well in the future. But that's besides. But you know another thing that I liked that they did, and I know Lower Decks did it too, and I know I keep referring to Lower Decks, but it makes sense, the whole co ed thing. I mean, they're all in the locker room, showers and stuff, and they're doing co ed That's something you wouldn't see in Star Trek either, back in the back. In the days. And it works though here.

11:23 You know, seeing Genesis barely dressed, I'm okay with, by the way, but Sam here barely dressed. I mean, that's something you really wouldn't see, you would see that in JJ Abrams Star Trek. Yes, I know we saw that kind of thing, but in a TV series for Star Trek, no way. But there was a lot more skin this time what there absolutely was. But it makes sense because you're dealing with young kids. You know, I'm not young kids, but you know, you're dealing with you know, college age kids, and it just it just feels like it needs to happen, if that makes any kind of sense. And I mean it's it's I mean, I guess pun intended. It's kind of a dressing down. It mhm to say this is not the you know, Captain Picard had very refined kind of you know, approach to things, and everything had to be buttoned up. I think if it's so stiff, it's going to be hard for people to get into.

12:17 It's very much more approachable now, and I think it's yeah, it's going to be helpful for for younger viewers, especially to want to get into it. But I think it's also helpful to say to current viewers, this is Star Trek moving into the future. It's definitely give me a new look and outlook on Starfleet Academy. I think back to the time that when Wesley was in Starfleet, way that had to be boring compared in these episodes. Oh that was a boring time. Well it was. It's probably a lot of like you know, they wrong with it, but like you know, Shakespeare classes and you know, symposiums on tea, you know, everything that was very high brow refined. Now that this is low bro.

13:01 But it's like it's it's it's not taking itself so seriously that it becomes just this, you know, unreachable kind of thing to a lot of people. I think the addition of is it Captain. Ak Yeah, okay, Nala walking. Around with you know, foot coverings but basically barefoot, and you know that kind of feels like the kind of vibe and approach they're going for, very relatable, very casual, still taking it seriously when it needs to be taken seriously, but just knowing that, like, these are kids and we're trying to build something here, and if we don't have them bought in, we're not going to have it. I want to go back to another thing, Scott, that you mentioned that you felt like not Nala was kind of like Dumbledore. I want to bring that back here for one thing, and that's when Nala and thought, we're having that conversation in her office. Yeah, and you know, they basically had that understanding of her telling like a coded language to.

14:00 Of what she was doing. And if you weren't really listening to their dialogue, you weren't realizing that Nalla was basically saying, I'm going to help them beat the war college, but not let them know that I'm helping them. So that's exactly what Dumbledore does. And did the same thing with the same thing with the the I don't remember what it was, but the time thing that he gave. Hermione, remember the time turner. It's the same thing. He's telling her not to use that, but like, go use it to make it work. And she does the same thing here, giving the kids the tools, here the plant and putting the little seeds around and planning in their.

14:43 Heads so it looks like it's their idea. It was brilliant. Yes, yep, absolutely agree. Yeah, just that little bit of mischief, that little bit of whimsy that makes it still fun and makes it their idea. She's not giving them blueprints for it. She's saying, like there might be a re in wink wink, Well, I told you all these things. Uh, there's the interesting little, you know, demolition man moment with replicated eyeball. That was kind of that was kind. Of I thought that was pretty cool. I was a neat, neat way of going around their little obstacle. Yeah, what I thought you were going to bring up was the moment with Thok where Thalk talks about the reason that she did not go with Keelric. That was a lot of interesting depth and like the three thing, the three reasons why she didn't, And I love I love Holly Honder's portrayal. Here she's like, well, what's the third reason? Like she's kind of such a like relatable, like just a tinge of a twang. I just I don't know. I think she's doing an amazing job. I love her, love Thalk, love the entire cast. They're doing great.

15:48 There's so many characters that I love. And I tell you, we're only in the three episodes into this season, and like every every episode, I'm like looking into these characters if I what are they going to do? That makes me love them even more? And I'm telling you, Sam continues to grow on me, Like it's unbelievable how much she grows on me. The scene where she's like, what they're teaching them how to play Kalika and they're like so so like like laser tag, right, and then it cuts to. Her like it's not like laser tag. Yeah, yeah, so much. Just the innocence of Sam continues to impress me, and how she's just exploring this world, exploring friends and just you know, getting to know things for the first time.

16:32 I love seeing it through her eyes. I really do, absolutely agree. I was. I was skeptical about Sam's character. I was like, how is this going to go? Knowing that she's a photonic right, great idea to have this kind of character with Robert Piccardo in tow, but he's got this reluctant mentor he's like, oh no, we don't have to talk. It's okay. But her moment of that saying like this is not like laser Tag, and then Lenny into it realized, can wait a second, I'm permeable, right, but I canna be like vision out there. This is what I was afraid of the first place. You know. Yeah, she's she's that other end of the spectrum where you have Caleb who's like, I will serve my time then GTFO and she's like, no, this is amazing.

17:17 Everything is amazing. I want to learn about everything. Yeah, you need that kind of enthusiasm. It's that she's the kind of the the most youthful aspect of it, but she still kicks but when she needs to. Just the only downside I would say about this episode is that I really miss seeing Robert Riccardo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. Mean I understand we needed an episode that really developed the kids. We really did. They were not really kids or college age, I guess, but you know what I'm talking about. So I'm hope, you know, they needed to do that. So I understand why he's not in this episode, but I hope that they do an episode this season that where he is central to the plot, maybe with so we can learn more about his character and maybe a little bit more about what had happened in the last you know, thousand years or justin you know, well eight hundred years. You know, I want to hear more from him.

18:11 We love him, Yeah, absolutely, we do. Awesome, So can we talk how awesome the phasers are that transports people in Calica. That's awesome. That was awesome. That's aesthetic. Really, that's a brilliant idea. It's a brilliant idea. Well, that whole scene was incredible. It was Yeah, it's really used a great effect, like in the where are they in the Atrium? Yeah, at that point with our breadam. Atrium college am Yeah. Yeah, that last idea that they had with the mascot fake out when it was Sam and person naming the Yeah. I also like the bigger message because when we talked about like Captain n Allah being a different kind of captain or chancellor, this whole episode about being realizing that a captain isn't about being the best or about being perfect, and seeing Raymie's approach to that kind of reminded me of what's the character out of Spider Man No Way Home is it? Flash, who's kind of like waiting around for his parents that never show up. So he has all these perfect, perfect ideas that have been set up by his parents, but he never hears from them, and he's always trying to chase their approval. He and Genesis being kind of different size of the same coin, but her understanding that it's about being a leader, helping your

19:41 team and understanding your team. We heard a lot about empathy and some previous A series I forget if it was Discovery or Strange New Worlds, one of the two that lean into that, like understanding your team is the most important thing, not about being this perfect you know, can't be touched leader. You know that's Strangely Worlds. I was really strong running through that series. Yeah, so I love that they pulled that back through here. Aside from that, the fact that I think those jackets were amazing, they were one of those really really one one of those. Yeah, I'm sure it would be available for the. Oh yeah, Actually, so.

20:23 Of all the crew members, we've talked about a lot that stood out, but which one way, and let's start with you which one shined the most for you? Well, you know, it was really hard to pick between Rainy and Genesis because they're obviously the main players in this episode. But I'm actually gonna go for Nawa. Okay. It's just her subtle hints and and you know the way she she drops those the things there, she's the one actually manipulating the students, you know, pulling the strings to get them to do the right thing learning the lessons. I thought that was brilliant. I I think Holly Hunter is brilliant in this series. It's just great the relationship that she's developing with these students. So she's proven to be my favorite character in this series so far, and that's saying a lot because there's a lot of really good characters here.

21:14 Absolutely, Dave, what about you? I have to go with Remy on this one because he reminds me a lot of Steve from Stranger Things. You know, he's being the jock and thinking he's always the leader until eventually he's put into place. He's coming to realize Genesis is a better leader and understands, and he does that. He finally comes to that realization in this episode and makes that step back. But I love the scene between the two of them when he confronts her and says, look, I'm gonna be honest with you and open, and I'm going to tell you exactly that time where he was a kid and he was playing the instrument for his parents and he missed a note and they left before he was even done.

21:55 You know, your heart really broke for him. But I feel like the way they're moving his character is, like I said, just like they did with Steve. How he's going to completely change and turn the opposite direction what you're expecting, and that's what I hope they do it because that would make me like the character even more, and you can see that's happening already in this episode. So yeah, I think he will. He's shine the most in my opinion. What about you, Scott, I totally agree with both of yours, and I guess as kind of a not an opposite side, but a flip side of that. I was going to pick Genesis because of her discussion with Raymie after they you know, figure out who is now captain and he's kind of like, all right, yeah, that screwed up, and so on and so forth. The way that she handled that afterward was the kind of leader that I think they need, somebody who is going to be accepting and say like, yeah, I hear you. That doesn't mean that you know you're totally out or that you're at the back of the ship or whatever. You've got something to learn, just like all of us do. So let's get into this and figure out where we need to go. I think that the dichotomy of those two characters is very, very clever, So yeah, I'd go with Genesis.

23:09 All three good choices for this Yeah. Absolutely so a similar question, who would you want to be in this episode? Wayne, Well, I chose this time. I chose Rainy because, you know, because the lessons learned just how much funny he looks like they're all having great fun at starfleyt Academy. But you know, when he first appeared in the pilot of the first episode, I I thought his character was just going to give me your typical chock character that's not really that important, just there to be an antagonist, you know, to to. Be a bully, do the wrong thing the bully. Yeah that's the mouth. Yeah, that's what it. Looked like they were leading up to. But this episode proves that I was completely wrong about that character. And the way he finally does learn his lesson and hands over to Genesis was really brilliant writing and bring it acting, And I think I'm starting to really adhere to that character.

24:06 So I chose. Him, David, what about you? So I'm flipping the table, so I know Wayne picked Nala for his for a characters on the most, I'm picking Nala to be the character that I want to be because she's getting to show her leadership skills, by having fun doing it, by doing it her way, no one else's way, you know, planning the seed to the cadets will think it when you know, making it, think it's their own. But at the same time, reliving her younger days through them. I mean, who who doesn't want to do that? I mean, Scott, I'm sure you want to do that with your kids, you know, see it through their ads, you know. So Nala getting to do that with her students just makes me so happy and to getting to see her to be relieved a little bit from the pressure she had in the first two episodes because of especially the first episode of you know what she did that put her, you know, retiring from Starfleet and that kind of thing. And you know, her relationship with with Caleb, which is still going strong, which I love by the way that they're continuing to do that that he comes to her office and they still have that one on one.

25:04 I love that. But I really feel like I would love to have been her character in this because of that. Yeah, But you I mean, I think I think it's cool that Alli Hunter gets to walk to walk around barefoot on for me, I think those are great answers. I leaned into Sam having having a lot of fun as a permeable photonic like the mascot switchery like I talked about before out in the battlefield where a shot goes through her and she's like, there's nothing in the rules saying that I can't be permeable, And when she goes kind of uh sprintsing the vitis under all the doors, she has that moment where she puts on this growling affect to her voice. Nobody's around here, but she just doesn't to be fun. It seems like she had a lot of fun in this one.

25:53 Yep, good joy. Yeah, so I want to call out a couple of Easter eggs I noticed, and I know I want to. I want to toss it up to both of you because I know that it's especially Wayne's domain. Get So, drones and names are the only two things I wanted to get into. One a question where the drones meant to replicate the ones looking that we saw in Insurrection. I'm glad you brought that up because I'm not sure if they they intended it, but they are very similar. They do the same thing. They kind of even looked the same. So yeah, it has to be. It has to be.

26:33 I agree. I think it does, especially with the transporter Phasers because they essentially did the same kind of thing. Interesting. Also, some wall, some names I saw on the wall, and I'm sure that the you know, interwebs have already plastered this up and down the sideways. But a couple that stood out to me. Two writers. I saw Captain Peter David mm hmm. I saw Admiral Tawnie Newsome m mm hm, and some names that I didn't want to see because of their ranks. And I don't know if it means something, but I saw Commander Pellia, Lieutenant Erica Ortegas, and Lieutenant on Nudi and sing mm hmm. So please please tell me that doesn't mean that they Oh it does, damn it, I have to.

27:21 I wanted to bring attention to that too, because you know, I have a feeling we're looking at impossible hints to the future of some of these characters. Yep, I really do, that's the thought. Yeah, well, maybe they move on to other things. I would just maybe. Not that much, right, Yeah, you know, maybe they that's just when they left, they left to go do better things or whatever. So we don't know. Put they pulled a dol on. They're working at a preschool on Bajor. That's what they're doing. That's true. I mean Harry Kim was an ensign for decades and then eventually became what an admiral. So yeah, so there you go, you know what, jump all right?

28:02 Day? Have any east eche put? The only thing, the only thing that I really caught was the tri Quarders that were sitting in the office and and the ships. I know Wayne had mentioned that one in the previous episode that were sitting on the shelves behind Nala in her office. I know there was like for the ships there was like the Galaxy of the Excelsior and NX class Defiant over any Intrepid class ships, uh were there. And then for the tri Quarders, I think there was the there was a Universal Translator, a Discovery tri Quorder, and an Enterprise Universal Translator and communicator were on her shelves. So I just thought, this was it's kind of cool they're doing those nice little touches like that. Yeah, and there was I did happen to catch it in n XO one in the USS Enterprise as well.

28:46 With the models. This is probably that shot in the office was probably the best shot we've had so far. So yeah, it was so easy to see all the different things. There was also an EVA helmet from Discovery as well. Policy was like looking in the background. But it's it's so interesting like for me because I, you know, grew up on Well, grew up on Peter David's incredible Hulk run and Future Imperfect is just like an absolute standout. And there's so many like Maestro Trophy Room moments in this that I love because it's not like, hey, everybody, here's an astrig it's way out in your face, but you have to kind of like pause and check for it. So, Wayne, what did we What else did we miss? Well?

29:28 I got two more that I want to add up, but well, actually the first one I want to mention is that title card. At the end of the episode, the honored the late Carlo Meniari. She was a member of the costume department for a Star Trek Discovery and for some of the Star Trek Short Trek episodes. She served as the costume costume cutter for those series, which you know, when the costume designer would make the pattern, they would cut the pieces of fabric out so that the series costumes we've made. She also worked on American Gods and what we do in the Shadows. She passed away back in September twenty twenty four after battling cancer, so it was really nice for them to dedicate this episode to her. And then also, I love the two mascot costumes. So let me point out those two species because I didn't really get into it in the last episode.

30:18 First we had them with got To and they first appeared in the original series episode of Private Little War. And we're also seen mating on top of that log that Boimler was hiding in on the Lower Decks episode I Got Toumatsu, which is one of my favorite episodes. If you haven't seen that, go watch it now. The laplings are this are a single lapling actually was seen on the Next Generation episode The Most Toys, but here it's described as a fuzzy, mean like a Koala, and cute like a targ. I love that description. It fits it perfect from what we saw before. Ye. Well, I love the mascots. I think that the great idea. All those costumes were great. I thought that was fantastic. Yeah, well, who was it? Uh sadal Oakum that got recruited to be the yeah, the mascot, and it was just like, well, it just fit the costume and he was like, oh, I'm so excited.

31:13 There was that Terrimu's brother in't it? Yeah? Yeah, Well, I can't wait till the next episode. I think it's going in a great direction. I can't see where they go. Wait, I can't wait to see where they go next with it. And I hope that Paramount invests in continuing to lean into this direction. Because they've already renewed season two. Good. Yeah, it's it's that's already happening. And Wayne correct me if I'm wrong, But did I not hear a rumor somewhere that Star Trek fans are going to be a static for episode four? Yes, that's what they stand down. It's especially people who were fans of Deep Space nine. That's what that's weird. I couldn't find anything else about this next episode, not even a title. No, I could not dig it out. Yeah.

31:58 Interesting, Well, we're fresh off Deep Space Night, so it should be a good well pay off for that. It does need some love because, let's admit it, once Deep Space Night was gone, the characters just disappeared. I mean, I know lower decks gave a little love, but the rest of starter for it. Come on, now, let's give a little love. Keep space, time for crying out loud. Agree, I've got my I've got my fingers crossed for some kind of Cisco connection, so we'll see what happens might be. Who knows, Oh yeah, oh yeah, it'd be great to see Quarks still running things. Oh all right, well, gentlemen, thank you both. As always, we'll be back for another episode, uh next week, So listeners, we hope you come back to join us. Halium frequencies are always open for you to share your thoughts and questions on Facebook, Instagram and your favorite social channels. Find us online at a Film by Podcast dot com for our articles and the episodes extreme for free. Don't forget us at about us on YouTube as well. Email us at a Film by Podcast at gmail dot com, and if you're looking for more exclusive content and swag, send some latinum our ways your Patreon.

33:00 We'll see you next time. For phasers, set to stuff. I'm going to meditate on it. What do you meditate on? The competition? Competition