Jan. 17, 2025
A Chat with Phantasm's Lady in Lavender: Kat Lester
Actress and musician Kat Lester joins Jeff and David for a chat about her iconic role as the Lady in Lavender in Don Coscarelli's 1979 horror classic, Phantasm! Kat shares her favorite stories from the set, her experiences at fan conventions, her smooth, sensual music, her thoughts on the future of the Phantasm franchise and the role she'd love to take on!
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Well, you know, Kat, playing the antagonist in a phantasmic
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film requires delivering a very memorable one word line. Would
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you be willing to give us your version of boy?
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Oh?
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My version? Yes, a different version. I guess mine would
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be boy Boy. I've been waiting for you. You play
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good game, Boy? The game is finished? How you Die?
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Hello, everybody, Welcome back to a film by podcast. I'm
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Jeff Johnson, I'm David Burns, and this is a film
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by podcast. Last October we had the pleasure of going
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to Scarefest in Lexington, Kentucky. We happened to meet the
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cast and crew behind the legendary horror film Phantasm, which
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was celebrating its forty fifth anniversary. We had an incredible episode, David,
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I gotta I gotta give it up to you and
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Scott for when you guys covered it on a film
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at forty five. You're welcome it.
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It was a pleasure covering that, Believe me, it was.
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It was. I know we got a big response from
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our audience for that one, but I think they're gonna
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love what we have from today because we're going back
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to the world of fantasm and we're going to have
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a chat with the Lady in lavender, kat Lester. Welcome Cat, Cat,
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Welcome to the Welcome to the show.
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Thank you so much. I'm honored and excited to talk
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to you all about fantasm.
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Are There's so much you want to get into, Cat,
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I I got again. I gotta thank you for everything
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that you were talking about back in October. The line
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to get to you, I mean it was you're you're not,
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You're not. It's it's you're gonna wait, but it's it's
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worth the wait. I I was just I loved having
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that conversation with you back in October, and I'm so
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happy that you're here with us today.
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Honestly, same here, same here. Yeah. That that was a
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lot of fun too. I've I've never seen a crowd
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like that in my life, with all the conventions I've
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been to. When I saw the line wrapped around you
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know this, the block.
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Yeah block, Yeah, you guys. You guys kind of took
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over the town, and it was it was incredible. Uh
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you know, a Cat, you're wildly popular at the at
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these conventions and you know you're talking Scarefest. Uh so
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in comparison to some of the other appearances, is you
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know is was it was one of the bigger ones
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that you've you've come across.
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This, I think, yeah, I think this was the largest one.
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Nice.
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Gosh, I should have thought about how many I've been to.
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I've never really counted, but yeah, this seemed to be
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the largest, really did it was?
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It kind of surprised us when we approached and arrived
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because we've been to quite a few of these conventions.
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So when we got there we saw that line around
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the building, We're like, oh, my goodness, quite the crowd that.
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Is for sure.
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Yeah, it's just amazing after all these years to see
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you know that there's there, well there's a couple, well
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there's more than a couple that seemed to go to
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every convention where you know where Phantasm cast and crew
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are going to be there. That that just blows my mind.
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But also what blows my mind is you know the
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new fans. It's just uh yeah, and this was just
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a little B movie that I went out for and wow,
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it's been a wonderful, wonderful experience.
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That's good. So at this event, was there any memorable
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encounters with fans?
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Let's see. Mostly what I get is uh men telling
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me that I was their first crush, and sometimes they
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go into too much detail.
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Oh no, no, no.
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Those are details. We don't need details, you don't need
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for crying out loud, that's.
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Right, that's right. Well, there didn't seem to be any
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security this time in Kentucky. But there's sometimes where I
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just kind of have a little a little gesture, you know,
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I meet with a security guy and I say, you know,
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look for this little gesture, and that means move the
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person along when they're in line, you know, just it's
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time to go now, you know, the awkward. But that
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doesn't happen all the time, and it didn't happen in Kentucky.
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But it's just so there's that, and then also the
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love that I receive from the fans and the way
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they share their stories and and a lot of young
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girls women they have this they love like fantasizing and
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having the kind of power over men. That's the lady
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laugh in her hats, which cracks me up because she's
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so evil. But but I have to say that one
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of the funniest things that happened was that this young
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girl came up to me. Not not this time, this
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was oh maybe maybe five years ago. She came up
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to me and she was just gosh. She says, I
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love you so much, and you have no idea you
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know how you've inspired me. And then and I'm saying,
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thank you so much, and she picks she picks one
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of the pictures, one of the photographs for me to sign.
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And then she says, you know, I just I just
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don't get it though. I don't know why you're not
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wearing your long black wig and you're not wearing your
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long black gown. And I, oh, my goodness, do you
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think that I'm Elvira? And then she turned red and
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she said yes, and I said.
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No, no, oh no, no, you know I was just.
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Like, she was so embarrassed, and I, you know, I
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just gave her a big and I said, no, I'm
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actually really flattered that you thought I was her. And anyway,
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it it all ended up really well. But that was
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the funniest it's ever happened.
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Kudos to you there for handling it that that way.
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You know, I think a lot of people would have
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been a little more stand offish. So I you know
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the fact that you you you educated her but also
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didn't make her feel bad about it. That's absolutely sweet cat,
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I think that's great.
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Well, it just you know, I put myself in her place.
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So what what initially inspired you to pursue a career
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as an actress? Was it a film? Was it a director?
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Was it maybe someone's performance.
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I know exactly when and where and what and how
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it was the first time I saw a Shirley Temple movie. Okay, okay,
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I was very very young, and I remember just being
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in such on thinking she's so little like me, and
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I want to do that. I love to dance, I
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love to sing, i'd love to act. And as a
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matter of fact, I was such a fan of hers,
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and and you know, way back then, you know, it's
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just like you never knew what was coming on the TV.
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I'm really feeling very.
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Old right now.
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I remember, Yeah, I would just you know, hope and
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pray that another Shirley Temple movie would come on the
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TV black and white. Yeah, yeah, And I just well,
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she would tap dance a lot, and I remember I
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learned how to tap dance from her. Oh, I would
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just copy what she was doing, and I just I
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just thought, okay, I I this is what I want
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to do for the rest of my life. So I
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love it all. I love singing, dancing, acting, I love performing.
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Yeah, I was gonna say it's kind of like a
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lost art for actors anymore, because back then, you need
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to know how to sing, you need to know how
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to dance, you need to.
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Know how to act. All of that you had to
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bring it, you know.
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Yeah, it seems like some of that's lost today where
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you really just need to know how to act and
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have a few other talents of course, but that was
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the good days, for sure, So I can see why
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you lasted onto that cat for sure, because that's that
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was a good role model to pull you in.
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But you know, it's really interesting though, because you know,
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now since we have all this access now to celebrities,
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you know, they're they're online, they're they're on you know,
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TikTok whatever, and you're finding out that a lot of
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these people can sing, dance, an act, but they just
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don't you know, that the studios don't utilize and these
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don't these talented people in those ways.
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Yeah, you're absolutely right.
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Well, we know you're a talented singer, kab performer. Uh,
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we're gonna get it. We're gonna get into that a
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little bit here. In a bit. But David, before we do,
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I know, I know our listeners have they're they're hoping
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that we're gonna talk a little bit about Phantasm. Of
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course you want to give us a quick synopsis of
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the of this iconic movie.
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I sure can.
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Boy, if you're looking for horror that's got balls, it's
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found you. Fantasm The delusion of a disordered mind, a phantom,
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a spirit, a ghost. Mike Pearson and his older brother
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Jody have been recently orphaned and together are doing their
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best to make it through life. However, things begin to
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get very strange and very scary when a friend is killed,
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followed by a funeral home where odd things begin to occur.
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It is up to Mike, Jody, and their great friend
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Reggie to find out just what is going on and
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do their best to put a stop to it. But
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as we discover, there's more to it, and they are
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going down a path that leads into the unknown and
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a battle with one of whror's scariest icons, the Tall Man.
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Thank you, David, that was great. Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, the film is great. Uh, it's actually it is.
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It's out there, it's streaming. I recommend the four k
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Blu ray that came out recently. You'll you'll see it
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on my shelf behind me, but it's it's out there.
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So if you haven't seen it and you want to,
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you want to hear about what we're going to talk about.
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Do yourself a favor and go watch this film.
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Absolutely so.
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Prior to the film production, you're studying at the Roldan
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Dupres Dance Academy. When an agent discourage you and asks
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you to read for Phantasm, tell us about the audition process.
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Was there a specific scene that you had read?
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Uh? Yes, So first of all, I should tell you
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it was. It was so funny when I when I
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went to do a reading and I it was a
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I remember it was a very large commercial building that
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I went to in Long Beach and there was an
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office a door that I was banging on, nobody was answering,
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and then finally I tried the doorknob and the door
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was unlocked. So I opened up the door and there's
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this office in all there is is boxes all over
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the place and not much lighting. And I was, you know,
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I was saying hello, hello, and then there was no answer,
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and I was feeling very uneasy and just as I
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was about to flee, I hear what. I turn around
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and I see Don Coscarelli and he's like six foot
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five or maybe more, and all of a sudden he
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had this big smell smile on his face, and that
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put me at ease, thank god, because it was earlier
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and anyway, so yeah, so I read for him, and
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I remember the line was something like, so, what's the
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only thing to do in this town? And then Don
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slaps his knee and he goes, finally, somebody read this
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the way it was supposed to be or said it
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the way it was supposed to be said. And we
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talked for quite a while and then he said, well,
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you know, i'll give you a call. I'll let you know.
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And I've heard that before, so I wasn't I wasn't
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waiting around. But anyway, what happened was he called me back.
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It was maybe a week or so, and he said
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he wanted me to do a screen test, and so
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he said, but this time, I want you to wear
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a tight fitting dress because I had the first time.
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I was in jeans and a T shirt when I
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read for him. And so I showed up at the
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screen test with my my favorite dress, which was the
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lavender dress that I wore in the movie. And so
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I did this scene with Bill. He was very handsome
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and we had a lot of chemistry and a lot
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of fun. And it was about two weeks later, Don
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calls me up and he says to me, you know
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you're not going to get the You're not going to
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get the role that we had planned for you. And
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my heart just sank because I thought I felt like
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everything went so well. And I said, oh all right.
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