Jan. 17, 2025

A Chat with Phantasm's Lady in Lavender: Kat Lester

A Chat with Phantasm's Lady in Lavender: Kat Lester

Actress and musician Kat Lester joins Jeff and David for a chat about her iconic role as the Lady in Lavender in Don Coscarelli's 1979 horror classic, Phantasm! Kat shares her favorite stories from the set, her experiences at fan conventions, her smooth, sensual music, her thoughts on the future of the Phantasm franchise and the role she'd love to take on!

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Well, you know, Kat, playing the antagonist in a phantasmic

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film requires delivering a very memorable one word line. Would

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you be willing to give us your version of boy?

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Oh?

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My version? Yes, a different version. I guess mine would

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be boy Boy. I've been waiting for you. You play

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good game, Boy? The game is finished? How you Die?

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Hello, everybody, Welcome back to a film by podcast. I'm

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Jeff Johnson, I'm David Burns, and this is a film

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by podcast. Last October we had the pleasure of going

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to Scarefest in Lexington, Kentucky. We happened to meet the

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cast and crew behind the legendary horror film Phantasm, which

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was celebrating its forty fifth anniversary. We had an incredible episode, David,

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I gotta I gotta give it up to you and

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Scott for when you guys covered it on a film

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at forty five. You're welcome it.

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It was a pleasure covering that, Believe me, it was.

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It was. I know we got a big response from

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our audience for that one, but I think they're gonna

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love what we have from today because we're going back

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to the world of fantasm and we're going to have

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a chat with the Lady in lavender, kat Lester. Welcome Cat, Cat,

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Welcome to the Welcome to the show.

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Thank you so much. I'm honored and excited to talk

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to you all about fantasm.

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Are There's so much you want to get into, Cat,

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I I got again. I gotta thank you for everything

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that you were talking about back in October. The line

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to get to you, I mean it was you're you're not,

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You're not. It's it's you're gonna wait, but it's it's

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worth the wait. I I was just I loved having

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that conversation with you back in October, and I'm so

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happy that you're here with us today.

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Honestly, same here, same here. Yeah. That that was a

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lot of fun too. I've I've never seen a crowd

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like that in my life, with all the conventions I've

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been to. When I saw the line wrapped around you

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know this, the block.

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Yeah block, Yeah, you guys. You guys kind of took

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over the town, and it was it was incredible. Uh

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you know, a Cat, you're wildly popular at the at

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these conventions and you know you're talking Scarefest. Uh so

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in comparison to some of the other appearances, is you

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know is was it was one of the bigger ones

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that you've you've come across.

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This, I think, yeah, I think this was the largest one.

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Nice.

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Gosh, I should have thought about how many I've been to.

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I've never really counted, but yeah, this seemed to be

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the largest, really did it was?

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It kind of surprised us when we approached and arrived

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because we've been to quite a few of these conventions.

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So when we got there we saw that line around

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the building, We're like, oh, my goodness, quite the crowd that.

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Is for sure.

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Yeah, it's just amazing after all these years to see

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you know that there's there, well there's a couple, well

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there's more than a couple that seemed to go to

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every convention where you know where Phantasm cast and crew

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are going to be there. That that just blows my mind.

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But also what blows my mind is you know the

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new fans. It's just uh yeah, and this was just

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a little B movie that I went out for and wow,

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it's been a wonderful, wonderful experience.

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That's good. So at this event, was there any memorable

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encounters with fans?

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Let's see. Mostly what I get is uh men telling

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me that I was their first crush, and sometimes they

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go into too much detail.

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Oh no, no, no.

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Those are details. We don't need details, you don't need

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for crying out loud, that's.

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Right, that's right. Well, there didn't seem to be any

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security this time in Kentucky. But there's sometimes where I

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just kind of have a little a little gesture, you know,

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I meet with a security guy and I say, you know,

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look for this little gesture, and that means move the

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person along when they're in line, you know, just it's

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time to go now, you know, the awkward. But that

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doesn't happen all the time, and it didn't happen in Kentucky.

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But it's just so there's that, and then also the

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love that I receive from the fans and the way

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they share their stories and and a lot of young

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girls women they have this they love like fantasizing and

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having the kind of power over men. That's the lady

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laugh in her hats, which cracks me up because she's

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so evil. But but I have to say that one

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of the funniest things that happened was that this young

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girl came up to me. Not not this time, this

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was oh maybe maybe five years ago. She came up

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to me and she was just gosh. She says, I

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love you so much, and you have no idea you

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know how you've inspired me. And then and I'm saying,

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thank you so much, and she picks she picks one

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of the pictures, one of the photographs for me to sign.

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And then she says, you know, I just I just

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don't get it though. I don't know why you're not

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wearing your long black wig and you're not wearing your

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long black gown. And I, oh, my goodness, do you

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think that I'm Elvira? And then she turned red and

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she said yes, and I said.

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No, no, oh no, no, you know I was just.

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Like, she was so embarrassed, and I, you know, I

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just gave her a big and I said, no, I'm

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actually really flattered that you thought I was her. And anyway,

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it it all ended up really well. But that was

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the funniest it's ever happened.

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Kudos to you there for handling it that that way.

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You know, I think a lot of people would have

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been a little more stand offish. So I you know

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the fact that you you you educated her but also

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didn't make her feel bad about it. That's absolutely sweet cat,

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I think that's great.

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Well, it just you know, I put myself in her place.

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So what what initially inspired you to pursue a career

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as an actress? Was it a film? Was it a director?

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Was it maybe someone's performance.

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I know exactly when and where and what and how

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it was the first time I saw a Shirley Temple movie. Okay, okay,

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I was very very young, and I remember just being

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in such on thinking she's so little like me, and

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I want to do that. I love to dance, I

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love to sing, i'd love to act. And as a

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matter of fact, I was such a fan of hers,

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and and you know, way back then, you know, it's

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just like you never knew what was coming on the TV.

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I'm really feeling very.

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Old right now.

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I remember, Yeah, I would just you know, hope and

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pray that another Shirley Temple movie would come on the

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TV black and white. Yeah, yeah, And I just well,

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she would tap dance a lot, and I remember I

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learned how to tap dance from her. Oh, I would

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just copy what she was doing, and I just I

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just thought, okay, I I this is what I want

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to do for the rest of my life. So I

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love it all. I love singing, dancing, acting, I love performing.

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Yeah, I was gonna say it's kind of like a

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lost art for actors anymore, because back then, you need

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to know how to sing, you need to know how

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to dance, you need to.

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Know how to act. All of that you had to

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bring it, you know.

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Yeah, it seems like some of that's lost today where

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you really just need to know how to act and

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have a few other talents of course, but that was

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the good days, for sure, So I can see why

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you lasted onto that cat for sure, because that's that

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was a good role model to pull you in.

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But you know, it's really interesting though, because you know,

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now since we have all this access now to celebrities,

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you know, they're they're online, they're they're on you know,

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TikTok whatever, and you're finding out that a lot of

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these people can sing, dance, an act, but they just

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don't you know, that the studios don't utilize and these

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don't these talented people in those ways.

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Yeah, you're absolutely right.

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Well, we know you're a talented singer, kab performer. Uh,

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we're gonna get it. We're gonna get into that a

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little bit here. In a bit. But David, before we do,

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I know, I know our listeners have they're they're hoping

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that we're gonna talk a little bit about Phantasm. Of

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course you want to give us a quick synopsis of

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the of this iconic movie.

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I sure can.

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Boy, if you're looking for horror that's got balls, it's

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found you. Fantasm The delusion of a disordered mind, a phantom,

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a spirit, a ghost. Mike Pearson and his older brother

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Jody have been recently orphaned and together are doing their

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best to make it through life. However, things begin to

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get very strange and very scary when a friend is killed,

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followed by a funeral home where odd things begin to occur.

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It is up to Mike, Jody, and their great friend

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Reggie to find out just what is going on and

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do their best to put a stop to it. But

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as we discover, there's more to it, and they are

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going down a path that leads into the unknown and

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a battle with one of whror's scariest icons, the Tall Man.

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Thank you, David, that was great. Thank you.

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Yeah, the film is great. Uh, it's actually it is.

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It's out there, it's streaming. I recommend the four k

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Blu ray that came out recently. You'll you'll see it

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on my shelf behind me, but it's it's out there.

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So if you haven't seen it and you want to,

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you want to hear about what we're going to talk about.

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Do yourself a favor and go watch this film.

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Absolutely so.

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Prior to the film production, you're studying at the Roldan

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Dupres Dance Academy. When an agent discourage you and asks

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you to read for Phantasm, tell us about the audition process.

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Was there a specific scene that you had read?

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Uh? Yes, So first of all, I should tell you

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it was. It was so funny when I when I

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went to do a reading and I it was a

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I remember it was a very large commercial building that

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I went to in Long Beach and there was an

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office a door that I was banging on, nobody was answering,

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and then finally I tried the doorknob and the door

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was unlocked. So I opened up the door and there's

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this office in all there is is boxes all over

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the place and not much lighting. And I was, you know,

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I was saying hello, hello, and then there was no answer,

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and I was feeling very uneasy and just as I

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was about to flee, I hear what. I turn around

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and I see Don Coscarelli and he's like six foot

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five or maybe more, and all of a sudden he

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had this big smell smile on his face, and that

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put me at ease, thank god, because it was earlier

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and anyway, so yeah, so I read for him, and

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I remember the line was something like, so, what's the

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only thing to do in this town? And then Don

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slaps his knee and he goes, finally, somebody read this

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the way it was supposed to be or said it

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the way it was supposed to be said. And we

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talked for quite a while and then he said, well,

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you know, i'll give you a call. I'll let you know.

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And I've heard that before, so I wasn't I wasn't

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waiting around. But anyway, what happened was he called me back.

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It was maybe a week or so, and he said

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he wanted me to do a screen test, and so

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he said, but this time, I want you to wear

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a tight fitting dress because I had the first time.

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I was in jeans and a T shirt when I

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read for him. And so I showed up at the

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screen test with my my favorite dress, which was the

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lavender dress that I wore in the movie. And so

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I did this scene with Bill. He was very handsome

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and we had a lot of chemistry and a lot

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of fun. And it was about two weeks later, Don

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calls me up and he says to me, you know

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you're not going to get the You're not going to

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get the role that we had planned for you. And

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my heart just sank because I thought I felt like

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everything went so well. And I said, oh all right.

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He goes, well, well, let me tell you something. When

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I saw the screen test, you had this kind of

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devious and seductive allure and I loved the dress. And

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he goes, so you're going to be the lady in

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lavender and instead of being the victim, because what I

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was supposed to be was some girl that gets picked up,

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you know, in the bar and gets taken to the

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cemetery and proceeds to get torn apart by Robinus Dwarfs.

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Oh gos.

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But so now he said, you're going to be the

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lady in lavender and you're going to be the villainous

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instead of And I was like, wow, okay.

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Even better for you.

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Yes, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it.

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That's awesome, that's great that happened to you.

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So yeah, was there any background information that Don had

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given you or did you create the story of the

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Lady in Lavender?

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Well, that's that's how it all happened. He just saw

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me on the screen test and he just he said,

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You're going to be the Lady in Lavender. And that's

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how it was, and really there was. That's all I

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knew that I was now the villainous and the Lady

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in Lavender. And it wasn't until I went to the

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screaming that's a whole other story. I don't know. You

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want me to get into that right now?

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Well, yeah we can. We can. Well, do you want

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to talk about it right now? Or do what? Do

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we want to? Wait? It's up to you.

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Well, I can tell you what happened. I didn't really understand.

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All I knew is that I'm the Lady in Lavender

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and I had done a few scenes and stuff, and

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it wasn't until I went to the screening that I

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saw my face super imposed. I was like, Oh, I guess,

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I guess I'm his alter ego, the tall Man's alter ego.

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Yeah it was. It was very bizarre, but I still

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didn't know how what the connection was exactly if he

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turns into me, I turned into him, or just some

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other entity I don't know. But anyway, that was the

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first time I realized that I was actually his alter ego.

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I guess, yeah, well, clearly one meeting with Don, You're

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in a T shirt and blue jeans. You leave, He's

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doing some rewriting quickly because you know, you're the lady

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in lavender. So you know, I got to ask, like,

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were you given some creative freedom to develop her as

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far as her personality, her hair and makeup? You know,

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the fashion? Was that? Was that all you? Or was

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that was that Don or uh crew going like, hey,

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let's make her look like this.

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Well they they actually, you know, it was Don's mother

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who actually did the makeup for me. It's very seventies makeup.

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But you know, I was just being myself, you know,

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with a lot of deep debious behavior. But yeah, it

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was basically I just I just showed it in that

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dress and that's the way he wanted me to look

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and he I remember being kind of frustrated because the

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first one of the first scenes it's after I have

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stabbed Reggie and I'm you see the tall men and

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then you see my face superimposed over his. And I

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wanted to have some sort of a scowl on my

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face or something, or lift an eyebrow, and Don said

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I don't want any expression at all, and I was

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so frustrated, but it actually turned out to be great.

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I mean, so many people say, you know, you have

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this look on your face and you you can't read

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what's going on there, so it's very curious.

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So it's what makes her scarier. Yeah, in that moment,

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I have to ask Kat, I have to ask do

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you still own the dress?

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No? I don't, and I love that dress so much,

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but Don ended up keeping it and he must have

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thrown it out. I don't know why. Well, I know

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why he kept the dress. That going back to the

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scene where there's breasts supposedly my breast, but they were

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not mine. But so you know the scene where I'm

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supposedly laying on a grave what would you call it,

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it's kind of above it's a tomb. Yeah, and so

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we're supposedly having about to have sex, me and Bill Thornberry,

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or I should say Jody and there's a part where

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the dress is pulled down over supposedly my breasts. They

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were not mine anyway. So the only way to do

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that was to cut the back of my dress because

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it was just like a fitted T shirt. Basically, it

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was a jersey dress that you just pull over. But

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he wanted to. I guess he just wanted it to

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look like it was being pulled down, and it was.

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But that was that was a stand in because I

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did not want to do that seat well. I was

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originally supposed to do that scene in my lingerie, you know,

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and I decided, oh big deal, I'll just I'll just

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find a bra and panties that looked like, you know,

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it covered more than my bikinis did. But what happened

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was when I was supposed to go out, we were

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out in the middle of nowhere at a big park

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way in the valley, and it was like maybe two

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o'clock in the morning, and it was supposed to be

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a close set. And what happened was is I had

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my makeup done, they were all ready for me to

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come out, and it was supposed to be a closed set,

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and when I opened the door to walk out from

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having my makeup done. There was a huge amount of

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young drinking beers and saying bring out the the bimbo.

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That's when I said, this is supposed to be a

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close set. I'm not doing this scene in front of

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these people. Somehow, these guys that they were from the

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nearest university, I don't know what it was there, but

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somebody told them this was happening. And I was like,

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I'm not doing the scene. So Don said, okay, we'll

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work around the scene. And then later on he said,

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do you mind if we just get you know, somebody

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else to do that scene, you know, at another time,

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And I said sure, fine. I was only nineteen. I

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didn't think about the repercussion. Yeah, And so when I

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went to see when I went to see the screening,

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I was with my mother and here comes this scene

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and you know, the screen is like twenty feet high

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by twenty wide the farm and I you know, you

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see me saying, oh, oh, Tommy, Tommy from the shoulders

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up and then all of a sudden, there's these rests

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and I'm like, oh no. And I don't know if

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I told you this before, but I went to see

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this with my mother the screening and my mother turns

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to me. First of all, I scream out, those aren't mine.

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My mother turns to me and she said, well, you

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should have done it because your boobs are better.

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Oh I did not see that part of the story

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coming there. Yeah, but I mean I can't imagine. That

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had to be difficult, you know, at that age, you know,

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when you're in front of a crew with cameras, that

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had to be a little overwhelming.

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I would think, Yeah, it was, It really was, you know.

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I think Don was only twenty four we did this.

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I was nineteen. Like I said, it was a B movie.

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But now it's got a life of its own now

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definitely classic.

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Now it's a oul classic it is, and for.

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Good reason too.

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Yes, so you kind of told us a little bit

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about the filming location. Do you recall how many days

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you were on set filming your scenes?

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Oh gosh, this was a long time ago. Maybe I

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did eight scenes. I don't remember. There was I remember

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there was. One of the first things we also shot

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was in the canteena where I first met Bill and

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we had we had some banter going on. But the

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thing was it was it was going really well, but

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there there was we we re shot this scene over

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and over again because we were improvising, and but after

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a little banter, Bill was supposed to say one more

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do sekis you know at the bar, you know, and

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so they were supposed to the bartenders supposed to slide

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it down to Bill, and I don't know how many

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times we did it, but he kept swing, you know,

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he kept swigging the beers and he got a little

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ship faced, and so there was so when you see

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that scene, there's absolutely no dialogue. You just see me

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sitting at the bar and then we walk out together.

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That's about all he could do.

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Yeah, when you guys were creating this, did they do

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table reads for the script or did you just.

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Do a lot of that on your own?

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No? Table I really I was told you know what

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to do on the day. Yeah, I didn't have a script.

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Wow.

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All right, well you did well?

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So wow script that's incredible.

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Yes, it is.

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Fifteen years after Fantasm you reprise your role for Fantasm three,

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Lord of the Dead. Do you recall your initial reaction

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when you were asked to return.

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I was, I was acstatic, but then I you know,

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I wasn't astatic when I found out what I was

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going to be doing playing a nurse of all things. Yeah,

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it didn't make sense to me. But I remember when

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I went to see it, I missed it. I missed

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it was just it was just the quickest cameo I'd

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ever not seen. So it wasn't until I watched it again,

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you know, when it was Yeah, I think I was

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watching it at home and I was like, oh, there

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it is. I had to stop it to just see.

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Well, it's it's a bit of a tease because once

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you you move past fans, you know, once once the

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fans moved past Phantasm too, and we're in the third

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film and then here you are, and then I know

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my brain was like, oh my god, the lady in

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Lavender's back. Where we're we gonna go? And then and

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then that was it, and I was like, no, we

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want more, right, what happened? What happened here? You know,

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because you you know that you come then you came

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back in twenty sixteen for Phantasm Ravenger, and it's just like,

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what is don is really messing with our heads here?

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Because like, is she gonna pick up the mantel or not?

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Cat I got I'm just wondering you know, as you

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come back every every other movie, what point did it

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occur to you that this character was a horror icon

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in the in the community, beyond the Phantasm films.

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Actually it was, it was way before. It was like

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the first convention I ever went to. God, I don't

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even know what year it was, but it was after

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the first Fantasm had been out for a while. And

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so this is my first convention and I'm sitting next

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to Linda Blair of all people.

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Oh wow, And she was lovely.

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But I mean, that's one film that I could never

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watch again ever. I was messed up for a good

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three months. Love But anyway, I said to her. We

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were we had a nice time talking with each other,

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and I said to her, I said, well, this is

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my first convention, and I guess I'm just gonna have

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a good time watching you signing because nobody knows who

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I am. And she turned to me and she goes, well,

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I know who you are, and I think wow, and

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she said, just you wait, and you know she was right.

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All of a sudden, you know, there was a trickle

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people coming in, and all of a sudden, there was

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a long line that might have been gosh, I don't know.

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I mean it might have been a year or more

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after it had already been out. Yeah, so that's when

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I thought, Wow, this is really, this is really something.

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And so and with each convention that I go to,

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there was more and more people. Now there were people

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that I recognize now and you know, know my first name.

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I mean I know them by first name, and lots

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of new people every time I go to another convention.

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So yeah, and especially the one so with Ravager that

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really you know, that was that was a real surprise.

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I didn't know it was going to go that it

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was going to turn into a feature It was supposed

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to be what was it called.

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Like a director video originally, wasn't it.

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Well no, first it was just supposed to be online

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series online and then it turned into a feature film.

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So yeah, that was great. And again, uh, no script,

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when what is don doing? It's always been it's always

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been a puzzlement and a pleasant surprise that you know.

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But yeah, he just told me to show up and

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not in the lady Lavender of it for this first scene.

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Let's see. Yes, I think it was at the Mausoleum

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actually first, Yeah, I did have to find another lavender

475
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dress because the other one was destroyed and I was

476
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.200
supposed All I knew was he told me I was

477
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:33.200
going to be levitating through the mausoleum. And I showed

478
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:39.079
up in a lavender dress and he hooked me up

479
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:44.240
to some sort of makeshift Oh, it was so bizarre.

480
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:49.960
It was dolly. And then there was this pipe that

481
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:54.160
I hung from with wheels. I wasn't on the dolly

482
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:57.839
yet and I was supposed to hang from it, and

483
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:04.000
he didn't want me to wear shoes. Yes, so I'm

484
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:07.839
sure you remember the scene where you see that my

485
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:16.839
toes are scratching and sparking, sparking, levitating. Oh my god,

486
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:20.880
it was so crazy through the hallways. Anyway, it was

487
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.839
pretty bizarre. So there was that, But I don't know

488
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:29.319
if I told you this is this whole crazy thing

489
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:33.119
that happened. Afterwards. He said it would just be I

490
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:36.160
would just be doing that, just levitating, and then you know,

491
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.759
it'd just be, you know, i'd be done for the day.

492
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:43.160
And I had planned to go out to dinner afterwards,

493
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:47.759
you know, later in the evening. And so what happened

494
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.319
is I did that scene, and I was getting ready

495
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:56.480
to go home and Don says, you know what, why

496
00:32:56.519 --> 00:33:00.720
don't you go back and get your makeup redone? I

497
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:08.039
have some other ideas, oh Don. And so when I

498
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:13.720
got back to Gigi, who was doing the uh the makeup,

499
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:22.680
I saw that she was mixing this huge, huge barrel

500
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:27.559
of movie blood. And I said, oh my, what's that for?

501
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.920
And she looked at me coly and said you mean

502
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:38.680
you don't know? I said no. She goes, well, it's

503
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:42.759
for you, and I said, oh no, no, what am

504
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:46.880
I supposed to do? So anyway, she fixed my makeup,

505
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.680
you know, look all lovely and everything. And Don says, well,

506
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:54.400
you know you're going to be shot first of all.

507
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:56.440
And I was.

508
00:33:56.359 --> 00:34:00.960
Thinking when he told me that, I you know this,

509
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.400
this is all in my head, that I'd get shot

510
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:08.400
in the head and I'd have this stream of blood

511
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:11.599
that it would come over, you know, start falling down

512
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:14.039
on my cheek and off of my cheek to my

513
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:21.199
decollete and you know something sexy. No, basically I get

514
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:22.400
my head blown off.

515
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:24.400
Yeah.

516
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:30.639
Anyway, so they feel me, you know, like you know,

517
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.760
falling back and all that, and then on the and

518
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:36.079
then so then they tell me, well you need to

519
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.480
get on the floor and I said, Don, there's like

520
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:45.400
two inches of disgusting whatever on this floor, and like,

521
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.760
can you at least put something on the like I

522
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:53.159
was planning on going to dinner from here. And it goes, yeah, well,

523
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:57.519
we'll put some put some newspaper down or something, and

524
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.440
so he says, okay, I watched it laid down right here,

525
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:08.360
and here comes Gigi and she starts pouring this barrel

526
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:16.920
movie blood all around me, and I start feeling it

527
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:21.599
seeping into my tee and in my hair and in

528
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:26.679
my face, and I'm thinking, oh, just you know, just

529
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.039
be a trooper, a cat. You can do this, you

530
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:35.039
know anything. We're a good scene. And we finish and

531
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:39.159
I get up and everybody's just cracking up because I

532
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:41.480
have no idea what I look like, but I know

533
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:42.400
what I feel.

534
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:43.400
Like and it feels horrible.

535
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.400
And I said, so, don do you have a rope

536
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:49.880
for me? No? Do you have a talent?

537
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:50.079
No?

538
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:56.400
I said, Don, what do you expect me? And I said, well,

539
00:35:56.599 --> 00:36:01.400
is there a bathroom? He goes, well, yeah, it's you

540
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.119
have to cross the cemetery. It's on the other side.

541
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:12.559
So by this time the sun has set, I'm freezing,

542
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:17.599
I'm wet, from head to toe on one side of me.

543
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:24.800
And so I start to walk across the cemetery, and

544
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:29.239
all of a sudden, I see there's like a family

545
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:35.480
that's gathered, sitting on the grass with candles at a

546
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.760
grave site. And I'm thinking, oh God, I don't I

547
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.679
don't want to bother them, but I have to cross

548
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:45.480
the way. And I didn't. I was being as quiet

549
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.119
as I could be, and all of a sudden, one

550
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:53.239
at a time, people start looking. They hear the crackle

551
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.440
of the leaves or whatever, and they start to yell,

552
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.239
and I pick up my hands to say no, no,

553
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.840
and they all just stand up and run.

554
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.960
Could you imagine? Could you imagine being in the just

555
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.199
sitting at the at someone's headstone, and then you see

556
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:20.119
a blood covered woman coming right at you. I'd be terrible.

557
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.280
I would never go back ever, no never.

558
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.639
They left everything. They left their candle, the food, and

559
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.840
god knows what else. And so then I finally get

560
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:33.719
into the bathroom and I turn on the light and

561
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:35.719
I see what I look like, and I think, oh

562
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.960
my god, these poor people.

563
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:41.880
What if I do?

564
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.480
Then I go, I want to rinse my hair off

565
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:50.360
and get this stuff off of me, and the sink

566
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:54.360
is about as big as a soup bowl. And I

567
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:56.599
go to turn on the water and there's no water.

568
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.920
Oh no, so.

569
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.840
I'm out of luck. I come back, I tell everybody

570
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.119
what's happened. They thought it was the funniest thing they've

571
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:15.239
ever heard, and I still thought aw awful. And now

572
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:20.239
I'm sticky and gooey on one side of my body.

573
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:25.880
My hair is matted, and I was like done. You

574
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:31.239
can never do this to me again. I've been a

575
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.920
trooper up at this point, but this is it. I'm

576
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.280
not doing this anymore. And yeah, it was. It was

577
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:38.039
pretty crazy.

578
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:40.760
That's a lot to take. My goodness.

579
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.039
Well, listen, we're going to take a quick break and

580
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:48.880
when we come back, we are going to talk about

581
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:57.360
Cat in the music world. Ah, stay tuned, welcome back.

582
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:02.280
We are chatting with the Lady and Lavender herself, Kat Lester,

583
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:10.199
the iconic character from Phantasm. Cat. You're more than the

584
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.880
lady in Lavender though, you're also you're the cat. Can

585
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.480
we talk about the music career a little bit?

586
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.559
It's indeed so your.

587
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:22.639
Music it's it's described as jazzy, bluesy, a little bit

588
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:27.880
naughty and frankly it's very tantalizing. What first attracted you

589
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.320
to this particular.

590
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:33.639
Sound, Well, we go back again, like I you know,

591
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:37.079
I told you about Chirley Temple those I think that

592
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:44.280
was in Wow, late thirties forties. I just absolutely loved

593
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.400
all of these old black and white movies. And I

594
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:54.480
was so fixated on Marlene Dietrich when she was in

595
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:57.559
the Blue I think it was called The Blue the

596
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:04.480
Blue Angel, and she played it wasn't burlesque, it was cabaret.

597
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:12.079
She played a cabaret vixen, and I thought, I just thought,

598
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:16.679
that's so glamorous. I loved all of those movies from

599
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.880
from the late twenties. They're in thirties and forties. There

600
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:28.880
was just so much glamour. And also I loved the

601
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:33.480
jazz age in Paris. You know, I would I would

602
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:37.760
think how fabulous it would be during you know, the

603
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:43.280
late well, the twenties, the twenties. Wow, it was. It

604
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:48.320
was so progressive the artistry that was coming out during

605
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:53.639
that time, and especially in Paris, the Chanzlise and Hemingway,

606
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:57.079
and I just thought, God, I wish I was born

607
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:03.800
in that era, because fantastic, the glamour, the glitz, the artistry, anyway, So,

608
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:10.079
and I love the music and Josephine Baker, and so

609
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:14.119
I started, you know, I love all kinds of music,

610
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:19.559
but I thought, you know this, I really want I

611
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.280
really want to get into this whole thing I want

612
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.559
to I want to create. I just want to create

613
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:33.920
a show that you know, people can I don't feel

614
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:38.960
like they're being drawn back into that error. And yeah,

615
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.320
so that's that's what started the whole thing, you know.

616
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:48.280
And then I started like, I'm looking at my at

617
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:51.800
my album right now, and it's like, what I really

618
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:56.400
liked to do is to take something like a song

619
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:01.000
like I Need a Man by the Eurythmics. Yeah, and

620
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.199
it was a very rock kind of song, but I

621
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:13.880
decided to do it in a jazzy bluesy and and

622
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.199
then I wrote a few songs like talk to Me,

623
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:21.159
which is has that kind of well the songs are

624
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.039
from the airs when I'm like from the twenties to

625
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:30.039
the forties, a little bit of fifties, and I actually

626
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.719
have I kind of mix it in with a little

627
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:37.880
bit of hip hop too. But yeah, I so in

628
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:41.559
creating well, I did the music first, but I always

629
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:47.719
had this whole idea of whole production, which I called

630
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:55.280
The Cat's Boudoir Rouge Extravaganza. I had feather fan dancers,

631
00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.400
tap dancers, belly dancers, but they weren't the kind of

632
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.519
belly dancers that you'd see, you know, in Dubai. They

633
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:11.480
were like, they looked more like the Harems from the

634
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:19.400
twenties in Rudy Valley movies. You know, no Rudolph Valentino,

635
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.800
not Rudy Valley. I don't know, have you ever seen

636
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.960
any Rudy Rudolph Valentino movies from the twenties. They were silent,

637
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:33.880
but he was He always played like a chic and

638
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.519
he had, you know, he had the belly dancers around,

639
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:44.199
and so yeah, yeah, yeah, So I had my belly dancers.

640
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:49.960
They're very pale and they had tattoos, and the way

641
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:54.480
they dance was called tribal belly dancing. It was kind

642
00:43:54.519 --> 00:44:01.079
of like a pop lock hip hop way doing belly dancing,

643
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:06.159
but they were dressed very much like the twenties, and

644
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:11.719
so yeah, it was. It was a fabulous show. I

645
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:16.159
do about thirteen to fourteen songs and do about three

646
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:19.840
to four costume changes. I just love the whole idea

647
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:23.079
of that. So that's what I was doing well.

648
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.880
I got to tell you, having seen several clips on

649
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.400
YouTube and reading the very positive feedback in the comments,

650
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.280
it's safe to say your show is not to be

651
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.719
missed and hearing you describe it, and like I was,

652
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.079
I was, I was mesmerized, honestly.

653
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:42.280
Thank you and you know, and also seeing you know

654
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:46.280
what inspire you now and seeing that the stamp is

655
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:49.159
all over that so incredible job with that cat.

656
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:50.480
Thanks so much.

657
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:53.599
Yeah, you met. You mentioned a couple of tracks that

658
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:57.719
that you you recorded. I gotta tell you coming home

659
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.800
that that I that is a siren song because it's

660
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:05.039
it's like you're you're under a spell listening to that thing.

661
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.719
It's I was like, Dave, you gotta listen to this one.

662
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:08.559
Check this one out.

663
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:17.199
Jay Breaking the Sun is Shune I Fall when will blow?

664
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:22.519
Can't ton these voices calling me.

665
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:30.320
Calling me to you.

666
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:33.920
Oh my gosh, thank you so much. That's one of

667
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:41.199
my favorites. Actually the reason absolutely, oh thank you.

668
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:43.559
Yeah. I've been playing that one a lot leading me

669
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:45.239
up to this. I knew we're gonna be talking to

670
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:47.079
you soon, and I was like, I'm just gonna It's

671
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:50.079
one of those that on my Spotify has has got

672
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:55.159
a lot of repeat uh plays. Oh thank you? Well

673
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:56.880
what about uh? And I you know, we we got

674
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.800
to talk about the Lady in Lavender. You actually you

675
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.519
know you you wrote the song and it's another one

676
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:05.280
of favorites for obvious reasons because we're talking phantasm today.

677
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.119
But you know, you got like these lyrics, like you know,

678
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:11.599
you think you know me. I've got a secret, but

679
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:14.719
I'll never speak it. It's I'm listening to it. I'm like,

680
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:18.880
that is the lady Lavender sitting at the cantina, and

681
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.440
it's so like, you know, you shouldn't be leaving with her,

682
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:24.280
but you can't. You can't with her, you can't help

683
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.360
it because that's that's that's the aura around her, that's

684
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.119
the appeal. I love that track. Kat. I'll tell you what.

685
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:33.400
Listeners will play the full song at the end of

686
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:36.199
this episode because we love it and we think you'll

687
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:37.559
love it too. I have to hate it.

688
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.239
Yeah, it just it just happened. I just finished pretty

689
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:47.800
much finished my album and then I remember my producer

690
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:49.880
went to lunch and I said, you know, I have

691
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:54.840
this idea because because I had already we had filmed

692
00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:00.920
you know, those scenes from Ravager, and I said, you know,

693
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:03.559
I just feel like I need to I want to

694
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:07.159
do a song about my character, and so I kind

695
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.559
of it was like less than an hour. I had

696
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:14.840
the whole song and then we just started working on

697
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:18.639
it and it came together really quick. It was amazing.

698
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:21.480
I absolutely love it.

699
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:22.760
Impressive. It really is.

700
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:30.679
On Spotify. It's yeah, very nice.

701
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.159
It definitely as the listeners. If you've not heard your music,

702
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:34.639
you definitely need to check that out because you're.

703
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.920
Missing absolutely yes, wow, thank you for.

704
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:42.000
Sure, absolutely so. Giving your success as an actress and

705
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.719
a musician, where are you most comfortable, Which do you

706
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:46.360
enjoy more?

707
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:53.519
M I really love it all. I just love to perform.

708
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.840
I do want to do more acting. I think it'd

709
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:59.000
be a lot of fun, a lot of fun.

710
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:03.079
So we kat. You and I had a brief conversation

711
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:05.360
back in October, and I want to kind of I

712
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:07.559
kind of want to address it again now that now

713
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:09.119
that you're talking about that, i'd love to act again

714
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:13.920
and act more. Let's talk about the future of Phantasm,

715
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:17.800
you know, and because I've got some thoughts on reintroducing

716
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:20.039
the Lady in Lavender to a whole new generation, you know,

717
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:23.119
earlier you talked about, Hey, we've got all these new fans,

718
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:27.039
all these younger fans are discovering the film. I can

719
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:29.400
I can speak for him. We got to have some

720
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.280
more because you know, with all due respect to Angus

721
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:36.639
scrim the tall Man can never be recast. It's yeah,

722
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.440
but it's important to remember that it's also not necessary

723
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.920
because the Lady in Lavender is in fact his counterparts. So, Kat,

724
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.880
what are your what what are your thoughts on taking

725
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:50.119
up the mantle as the film series new villain? If

726
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:52.000
we if we could get Don to do another film,

727
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:56.480
would you would Is that something that interests you absolutely?

728
00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:00.199
And like you said, you know, there's there's no way

729
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:07.079
that anybody could take the place of Angus Rory that is,

730
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.400
but yeah, you know not. But and at the same time,

731
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.599
I think it would be a blast. It would be

732
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:23.039
such a surprise, and I always wanted to, you know,

733
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:30.440
really get into the meat what the Lady in Lavender who,

734
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.760
and what the Lady in Lavender really is, and there'd be,

735
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:41.000
of course this whole other side. But I don't know,

736
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.360
you know, I think I know that, Yeah, I don't

737
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:53.280
think I know that fans can make things happen more

738
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:58.360
than anything else. All I know is too, is that

739
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:02.000
Don keeps saying no, no, no, there's there's not going

740
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:05.280
to be a number six. No no, no, no no.

741
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:09.840
But he was. I remember though, when I when I

742
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:13.719
uh brought the song Lady in Lavender to him to

743
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:17.039
listen to. He played it like seven times in a

744
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:19.440
row and he goes, oh, this this really made me

745
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:22.320
think more about the Lady in Lavender and wow, this

746
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:26.239
is He loved it, and so really, I have to say,

747
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:28.880
my heart was broken when they didn't even use it

748
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:39.800
in Ravenger. I was like, why why But I don't know,

749
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:43.079
And I really thought too, do you know you remember

750
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:50.079
the scene where this is in Ravager where wrote the

751
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:55.639
tall man is in the hospital bed at hospital and

752
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:59.679
I'm underneath his bed. Do you remember that?

753
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.000
It was very It was a strange. Yeah, yes, And.

754
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:12.280
Our arms are intertwined and then they do a close

755
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:17.119
up of me and I am I am miming his

756
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:20.920
words saying oh, I forget what it was, I'll be

757
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:24.639
seeing you soon or something like that, and I thought,

758
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:29.760
if anything, that would be like I really thought, oh,

759
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:34.599
this must be the last shot of the film to

760
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:42.000
make people think Oh, maybe the tall Man is transferring

761
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:47.199
his power to me. Now, yes, yes, but that didn't happen.

762
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:50.679
Well, you know, well, maybe Don's right, Maybe there isn't

763
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.679
going to be a six, because there's going to be

764
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:56.280
a six, seven, eight, you know, and we can like that.

765
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:59.480
Let's let's tell let's finally tell the story of the

766
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:00.840
Lady in left right, Dave.

767
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:02.920
Yeah, I mean it would take this series in a

768
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:06.039
whole new direction that would be needed and it would

769
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:06.519
make sense.

770
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:08.599
Yes, it would, won't it.

771
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:12.000
Yes, We've been waiting for the payoff, That's all I'm.

772
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:15.880
Saying, and I've been waiting to give it to him.

773
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:18.079
Yeah, come on, Don, you can do this.

774
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.400
Well, speaking of that, you know, with some incredible actors

775
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.960
that lead fights against evil in these films, is there

776
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:29.840
a specific character you'd like to see return as a

777
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.559
protagonist in against your character?

778
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:38.840
Oh? God, you know, I just I think Gloria Henry. Yes,

779
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:44.960
I I just think she's fabulous, I really do. I

780
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.679
We've even been talked about it, Like, wouldn't it be

781
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:52.880
great if you know, we were just you know, we

782
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:54.000
were at each.

783
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:58.199
Other and that would be the movie, right, you know.

784
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:03.719
I think, you know, she's so powerful and she's, uh,

785
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:07.920
she's so talented. I just happened to lover. I think

786
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:14.000
she's a great, great person. Yeah, we actually hung out

787
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:18.960
also when we were in Kentucky and yeah, we were

788
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:22.239
talking about wow, yeah, what what about us? You know?

789
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:26.519
And and it's like, you know, more and more you're

790
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:31.119
seeing all of these women now that are you know,

791
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:36.679
that are either you know, playing the protagonist or otherwise.

792
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.440
And a lot of women, a lot of women. So

793
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:44.039
I think it's time that this happens with Fantastic.

794
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:46.480
I can tell you I'd pay the crap out of

795
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.920
watching that. I would.

796
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:54.199
Yeah, we know, it's like you said that fans can

797
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:57.119
make things happen. Dave, clearly, we our next call. We

798
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:01.719
gotta we gotta call Donna on the boat. But but Kat,

799
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.400
what do you what do you think in your opinion

800
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.119
when when when when it talks when we're talking about fans,

801
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:09.519
you know, do you think a large reaction from the

802
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:11.840
fans would would peak his interest to come back and

803
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:12.840
do do a new film?

804
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:19.119
I think so, I think it would, you know, And

805
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:24.440
if even even if he didn't feel like directing, there's

806
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:25.480
I'm sure.

807
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:30.920
Yeah, executive produce, maybe maybe give a younger guy a

808
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:32.400
shot at like like David Burns.

809
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:38.880
That's right, you know, I really think, you know, yeah,

810
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:41.880
I really think at this point it's up to the fans.

811
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:48.039
And I know I'm bringing something up nothing to do

812
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:53.719
with with phantasm, but I've seen how the fans have

813
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:59.480
really really been very strong about bringing things back, either

814
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:05.440
whether it be TV or film. Also there you know

815
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:10.159
when when fans don't like something like Amber Herd and Aquaman.

816
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:14.920
She she had a huge part and then it was

817
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:19.760
like down to ten minutes or less. That was all

818
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:24.639
the fans. They have the power. So fans, yes, let

819
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:24.960
me know.

820
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:27.320
Yes, you hear that, you hear that.

821
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:29.960
Listeners, the Lady Levender has put you to work.

822
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:30.599
Let's do it.

823
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:36.159
And I'll point out Dave Don Costarelli is very active

824
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:40.599
on social media, which I think is amazing, so you

825
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:42.840
know where to find him, let him know, Like, let's

826
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:44.280
make this happen, is what I'm saying.

827
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:49.079
Oh, I think I think it would be I don't know,

828
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:53.840
it would breathe, breathe new life. It was well, you know,

829
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:59.559
and and holding that memory of the Tall Man as well,

830
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:05.079
I just think it would it could be so fabulous.

831
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:07.880
It could and you could pull a new new Watchers too,

832
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.880
which will go back and watch the older stuff that

833
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.000
you know, brought them into this, the new trilogy or

834
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:13.880
whatever we would get.

835
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:17.559
You know, absolutely all all the big franchises are doing

836
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:19.840
it too, like what the legacy sequels as they call it.

837
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:20.079
Now.

838
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:23.039
Yeah, the time, the time's right, let's it's it's time

839
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:28.920
for phantasm it is, let's do it. Let's do it well.

840
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:32.119
You know, Kat, playing the antagonist in a phantasmic film

841
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:36.079
requires delivering a very memorable one word line.

842
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:39.679
Would you be willing to give us your version of boy?

843
00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:42.039
Oh? My version?

844
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:43.800
Yes, a different.

845
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:48.280
Version, let's see.

846
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:49.719
Take your time this.

847
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:50.679
Mine would be.

848
00:56:52.920 --> 00:57:00.960
M oh, that's awesome. That doesn't care me. That makes

849
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:04.400
me straight at her, I kinda get scared, but because

850
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:05.280
what she's gonna do to me?

851
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:07.079
Wow, that was fantastic.

852
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:14.280
Yes, thank you, Kat. This has been just an incredible

853
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:17.599
experience for us, Like, we can't thank you enough for

854
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:21.320
speaking with us. Uh, what about the current current projects,

855
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:24.840
future projects aside from a new phantasm film, anything that

856
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:25.960
you can share with us right now?

857
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.599
I can't really talk about some stuff that's coming up,

858
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:35.079
you know how it goes. But I'm I'm always writing

859
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:42.880
music and in the studio and I I am thinking

860
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:50.679
about pitting well, I can't. It is really hard, But I.

861
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:51.840
Don't get yourself in trouble.

862
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:52.360
Yeah, don't.

863
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:54.519
I don't want to get myself in trouble. But I

864
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:57.239
do have some projects that are coming up. And you

865
00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:58.360
will be the first to know.

866
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:02.320
How's that ease? Yes, yeah, when you're when you're when

867
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.719
you're at at h when you're able to talk about it,

868
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.239
you gotta you gotta come back and talk with us, absolutely,

869
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:08.559
and I.

870
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:14.400
Do thank you. And I do have a question for

871
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:18.960
the fans, and that would be do you want me

872
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:24.960
to continue with the kind of music that I've been doing,

873
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:29.960
which is jazzy bluesy and it is naughty, or would

874
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:35.159
you like to see me branch out into other types

875
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.719
of music? Really curious to hear.

876
00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:41.320
For the listeners.

877
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:46.280
There you go, I like it. I like it? Well definitely, Uh,

878
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:50.239
head over to you to turn on your Spotify for sure.

879
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:51.599
Uh.

880
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:57.400
It's Boudoir Rouge by Lick Cat and it is fourteen

881
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:01.880
killer tracks and I'm I've already said it, but you know,

882
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:05.800
coming home that's that's my favorite, you know, but find

883
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:08.039
your favorite. You know, let Kat know like that, you know,

884
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.519
this is a chance to speak to the artist and

885
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.280
let them know what you'd love to hear. Let them

886
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:15.920
let let's let us know what what your favorite song

887
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:17.880
is that that she's doing, because.

888
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.840
Oh, I don't forget to uh listen to the Lady

889
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:21.519
in Lavender.

890
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:24.119
You can't mess that one.

891
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:29.960
Yeah, and again, this show you gotta you know, I Kat,

892
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.800
I would I would love to see like a longer shirt,

893
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:33.880
a longer version of it on YouTube. But there's there's

894
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:36.880
some there's some fun clips on YouTube that that we're

895
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.079
you know, some of your show got caught in Wow.

896
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:41.440
It's it's just it's excellent.

897
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:41.679
You know.

898
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:44.000
I would love to catch that show. Absolutely.

899
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:46.679
That means a lot to me. Thanks so much.

900
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:51.880
Well, listeners, what do you think of relaunching the Phantasm

901
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:56.559
franchise with Kat Lester as the sexy but sinister Lady

902
00:59:56.639 --> 01:00:00.039
in Lavender as the main villain? Let us know on

903
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.960
on social media. You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, and

904
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:06.079
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905
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:08.360
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906
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:11.880
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907
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:14.199
You can write to us at a film by podcast

908
01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:17.480
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909
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:19.760
We may just read your response on the show and

910
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:22.199
send you some a film by swag. And I'm telling

911
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:23.880
you right now, if you're letting us know what you

912
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:25.719
want to hear from Kat, we will definitely get in

913
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.119
touch with her and let her know.

914
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:31.480
Absolutely, Kat, we want to thank you so much for

915
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:33.320
joining us here as a film by. It has been

916
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:35.719
an absolute honor and a pleasure for us.

917
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:42.880
Oh well say him here. Really it was an honor.

918
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:45.599
Absolutely, yeah, And I know Jeff mentioned the Spotify where

919
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.559
they can find your music anything you would like to promote,

920
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:51.599
anything you want to talk about for our listeners that

921
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:52.519
they can go check out.

922
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:56.119
Yeah, where do they get more information about Kat Lester?

923
01:00:56.239 --> 01:01:02.199
Oh so that's another thing? My right, Oh god, my

924
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:09.119
web site is down right now. We're building it back up,

925
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:11.599
so sorry about that. So the best thing you can

926
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:18.760
do is watch Phantasm listen to my music on Spotify

927
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:23.519
and there will be surprises in this new year.

928
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:31.199
And for those of you out there listening each week,

929
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:34.400
following us on social media and subscribing to our Patreon,

930
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:36.840
we thank you, thank you.

931
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:39.440
Thank you.

932
01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:44.440
You think you know me, but you don't know me,

933
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:54.400
try and hold me and just my phone.

934
01:01:53.480 --> 01:02:00.960
Of God a secret O love us speaking, but I

935
01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:06.480
guarantee you with me you have a ball. Of course,

936
01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:18.440
I'm only the figure of the imagination.

937
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:23.119
I may be.

938
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:26.719
A ravage.

939
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:34.679
That seems to thrive on a deeply so.

940
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:46.400
My st ego is my alter ego his father's.

941
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:54.719
We know he's rather so well there I've said it.

942
01:02:56.239 --> 01:03:02.400
I don't recredit. Once you've met this sluit, you will

943
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.960
forget it all because I.

944
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:17.599
Lovemaner figure of the imagination.

945
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:22.280
I may be.

946
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:33.519
Overrio, but I seem to thrive on your age glation.

947
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.159
Please hes don't try.

948
01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:42.199
To and lie.

949
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:53.480
Just used to fantasize, and then just when.

950
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:56.760
You real life.

951
01:03:58.000 --> 01:03:58.639
With a.

952
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:07.320
Fragile flower, you will be.

953
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:57.000
Mine to be God and Devin Gauzander, Lady Levinger figure

954
01:04:57.239 --> 01:04:59.639
of the imagination.

955
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:13.480
My maybe have, but it seemed to thrive and I

956
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:14.440
feel so.

957
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:23.920
Lady leaving.

958
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:30.440
Figure imagine me sho.

959
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:37.360
Oh maybe.

960
01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:46.360
Rather, but it seemed to thrive on newly sho.

961
01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:57.920
You think you know me, believe you do know me.