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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation
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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,
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both new and old, to engage in debate about all
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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.
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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set to Stune.
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This is the ongoing a film by podcast series where
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we celebrate everything Star Trek, covering every quadrant of the
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ever expanding Trek universe, from television, animation, films, directors, merchandise,
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and so much more. Plotting the course as always as
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your core crew, I'm David Burns.
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I'm Scott Hoffman, and I'm Wayne Whited.
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In this episode, we continue our discussion of the brand
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new series Star Fleet Academy, breaking down Episode seven cosine
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and as usual, red alert listeners. If you are not
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caught up with the series, please go do so, as
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are many spoilers ahead. We will be right here at
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the Academy waiting.
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Well.
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As expected, guys, we get some character exploration. I think
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that's how we want to go with it, but in
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an episode I just couldn't get into and I consider
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as now the weakest episode of the season. Not sure
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why we got such an episode in the season that
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is so short, especially after the one we had last week.
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I'm not sure about your opinion, but I was pretty
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let down by this one. But before we dive into that,
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Scott tell us what this episode is about.
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Sure well. The cadets head home for their first spring
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break a few weeks after the Miyazaki catest. Terema is
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recovering on Beta Z and Mir struggles to stay connect
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with her. Since he doesn't have a home or family
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to return to. He decides to stay on the ship,
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and so does Genesis. She's been put on the pre
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track for captain training and chooses to stay behind to
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make sure she's ready. She bonds with Mer of shipwide Shenanigans,
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having her true intent to rewrite an embarrassing part of
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her past. We also see Darren get his plan interrupted
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when he's kidnapped before he can transport home. Jaden sees
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this and pursues to help him, but quickly realizes that
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it's part of a wedding tradition. Darren is promised to
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marry a girl and lead his people with her as
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their new leaders, way before he's ready. That rips Jaden
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into being his best man, but chaos ensues when Darren
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feels conflicted between whose people expect him to be and
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who he's becoming the Academy. Just first reactions. I also
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wasn't too drawn into this one, to be honest. There
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were parts where I was kind of you isn't the
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fast forward fifteen second feature. It was pretty dialogue heavy.
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It was kind of a story that just didn't drag
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me in and I could see where it was going
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to go pretty early on. It is interesting to see
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a little bit more of Darren's home world, but also
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just brought up a lot of questions for me.
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No, no, I'm not going to beat around the bush
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on this episode. I'm not a fan at all. Okay,
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I consider this as probably the worst episode of Star
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Trek I've seen since Picards season two, And if you've
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seen season two at Picard, you know exactly what I'm
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talking about here. If this was Star Trek where years ago,
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where we got twenty four episodes in a season, I
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would kind of let this one slide because I would
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consider this one as a filler episode. But the Star
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Trek that we're living in today, you get ten episodes
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and that's it, so we don't have any room for
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filler episodes. What's however, and to me, I don't feel
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like there was a lot of character development at all
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in this episode to help drive the story. There was
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a few little things that I kind of be like, Okay,
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you know, I like the the story arc that they've
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done with Jayden and Remy, like they you know, because
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remember the pilot, they really hated each other. Remy was
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picking on Jaden, Okay, so I kind of get I
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like that that. Like, now this episode has kind of
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shown you that they are friends now because of what
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Jayden did here and to see that Jaden has developed
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a little bit into obviously being able to do public
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speaking better because the speech was awesome. But beyond that,
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I'm sorry this episode was garbage. I don't know about
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you guys, but I was bored to tears by the
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time I got to the end of this episode. I'm like,
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I never want to see this episode again. I never
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want to go back and revisit it again. And I
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hate to say that because last week's episode was so
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damn good. Yeah, it let down.
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It's interesting when you mentioned the disinterest in a repeat.
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There were times when I was like, all right, I
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may have missed something important and I skipped a couple
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of parts, so maybe I should go back and watches.
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And I couldn't bring myself to do it. Yeah, Wayne,
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what about you?
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the exact opposite of what I was expecting last week
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when we got that blurb from Paramounts. And I'm just
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really disappointed in it. You know, I was looking for
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answers to like the kid's background, something that you know,
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I felt would allow us to, you know, maybe attach
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ourselves a little bit more, both emotionally mentally to the characters.
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Really, we didn't.
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But we heard a lot of talk. That's all. This
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episode was basically talk talk talk, you know.
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which for me had very little emotional impact. I mean, really,
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I like the character Genesis. I just couldn't care less
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about her lying on her application. It's just the way
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I felt about that. Maybe it could have been interesting,
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but it's just her telling us about oh, you know
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what she did. That's all we got. We got her
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telling us the story and then the story with with
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Rainey and Jaden was so in my opinion, is coke, cliche,
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and borning when it comes to sci fi that I
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was really uninterested in that part, to the point where
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I was picking up my phone and playing with it
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while the episode was airing, which is the first time
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for the series that I've done that. Plus that was
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some god awful ugly sets and costumes that they had.
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For those, I hate saying as I don't know what
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went into making them. They could have been a lot more,
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but it came across as very cheap and very gaudy
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and those but the biggest, my biggest disappointment, the biggest
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problem I have with this. There's no lasting consequences that
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I can see that'll come out of this episode. You know,
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Genesis may get a captaincy, Nope, back to the classes. Nothing,
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nothing happened. And then you got you know, Raymie has
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to be married off to save his world. Nope, back
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to classes, like nothing happened. Why waste a valuable episode
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on this? I just don't understand what they're thinking.
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Of, well, you know, speaking of like a waste of
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an episode, Like the whole thing revolves this around a
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wedding that's being annulled as they're celebrating right after they're done,
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or talking about like what were we even doing here?
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Let me go through the motions? Why.
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Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the costuming. And you
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know the scene where Jaden is wearing the outfit that
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he's supposed to wear as you know, best man kind
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of thing. When that was described as like coral and
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fish scales, that was like wet and cold. It made
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me uncomfortable to watch it because I was just like,
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like it physically made me feel like I was wearing
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that outfit. No, no, no, And it didn't come across
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like outside, that's something outside.
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I mean, that's a great description and it's great idea,
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but it didn't look like that. It's just like something made.
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I was straw and wooden, other crafty picked up off
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the ground. I mean, you know, it can't things like
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that can be done. We saw that there was a
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mini series recently called The War between the Land and
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the Sea that did something very similar to that. Really, well,
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is this wet fish scale?
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Look?
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But that wasn't it.
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know if it's I guess it just confuses a little
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bit of what was going on with Rami in the
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earlier episode where he kind of kind of shows his
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fish self, if we can call it that. So is
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it that his entire species kind of subdues that and
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they don't walk around like that all the time or
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just in certain conditions.
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I don't know.
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Made it a bit confused question.
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It also seemed, as much as I preferred the Mirror
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and Genesis storyline, like it was entertaining, like the warp
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slug was was fun for a couple of minutes, but
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it also seemed like, you know, unnecessary shenanigans. It seemed
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like the bridge seemed was hugely far fetched, like, you know,
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it's not just let's poke around and you know, try
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to be stealthy about pretending to be on the bridge,
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but let's go ahead and activate the warp core. Don't
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buy it. And I know that was to distract from
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her making the programmable matter key, but it also just
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feels like it's it's it deflates the whole kind of
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tension of her being on the Captain's track, and I
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would think that, you know, even though there's a big
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punishment for what they did to take her out of
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that track. It just feels like they're waiting to put
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her back in it anyway, versus having something that a
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little bit more consequential, a little bit more like your
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captaincy thing is at stake now, so you have to
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behave better. It just puts her back to like undefined.
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I don't know. So my question here is maybe I
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missed this in the episode Where the hell is the doctor?
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He's gone?
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Keep going?
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I mean, yeah, he's not in this episode. I don't
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know why we're missing half the characters in this episode.
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Just like I said, it doesn't make sense why they
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why they made this episode. It really doesn't. And to
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make things even more confusing for us, you know, I
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went online after I watched it episode and to see
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what everybody else was talking about, and this episode seems
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to be getting a lot of high praise and favorable
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reviews for it. How I don't see it. I don't
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know why. I'm you know, they're they're saying that this
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is probably the most star Trek of all the episodes
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so far, But I couldn't disagree more when it comes
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to the story. I mean, I just I don't understand.
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maybe it will tie into the remaining three episodes will
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finally make sense, but I don't. I don't see that happening.
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I just this feels like a This feels like a
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bottle episode, you know, it really does. It feels like
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a bottle episode, like they're needing to save money for
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like the season finale, but you only got ten episodes.
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That was the whole point of having ten episodes. We've
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trimmed away as much fat as we possibly could, so
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there is no need for doing the bottle episodes. But
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here we are, and I feel.
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We're covering the same ground with Caleb over and over
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and over with him right now. You know, I get it,
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you know you don't want to share your emotions with
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with with haarrama. But and what we've covered that the
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last episode, remember a little bit. So here we are
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again and you're going through the same things. But Jennythis
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is trying to get you out of that. I mean,
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I like the book ending thing that they do at
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the beginning and the end, where you know he's he's
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recording that message for her and he doesn't send. He
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just deletes it, and Jenesis basically says, look, just basically
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speak from your heart, say it and then send it.
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Don't even think about it, and he does that at
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the end. But I mean, didn't we already cover this ground?
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Kind of how many times has he have he done
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this very similar situation since we've known him? In what
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is this six episodes?
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I just don't understand seven Okay, I don't understand why
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we keep covering the same ground. All right, let's move on.
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to mind. I wonder if somebody who skips this episode
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and goes to the next episode, depending on what that is,
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could be satisfied with what happens in this if they
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get a last Week on Star for the Academy kind
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of summary right as they're starting another episode, theoretically could
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get all that from it, Like, Okay, so Terima is away,
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Sam is glitchy but gonna get fixed. N was going
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to get some kind of leadership and didn't. Jayden and
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Raymi got closer, and he's coming back to the Academy
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Like it's kind of an inconsequential kind of thing. So,
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