Feb. 25, 2026

Phasers Set To Stun: Starfleet Academy S1. E7 - Ko 'Zeine

Phasers Set To Stun: Starfleet Academy S1. E7 - Ko 'Zeine
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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage in debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set to Stune.

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This is the ongoing a film by podcast series where

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we celebrate everything Star Trek, covering every quadrant of the

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ever expanding Trek universe, from television, animation, films, directors, merchandise,

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and so much more. Plotting the course as always as

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your core crew, I'm David Burns.

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I'm Scott Hoffman, and I'm Wayne Whited.

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In this episode, we continue our discussion of the brand

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new series Star Fleet Academy, breaking down Episode seven cosine

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and as usual, red alert listeners. If you are not

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caught up with the series, please go do so, as

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are many spoilers ahead. We will be right here at

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the Academy waiting.

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Well.

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As expected, guys, we get some character exploration. I think

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that's how we want to go with it, but in

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an episode I just couldn't get into and I consider

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as now the weakest episode of the season. Not sure

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why we got such an episode in the season that

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is so short, especially after the one we had last week.

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I'm not sure about your opinion, but I was pretty

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let down by this one. But before we dive into that,

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Scott tell us what this episode is about.

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Sure well. The cadets head home for their first spring

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break a few weeks after the Miyazaki catest. Terema is

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recovering on Beta Z and Mir struggles to stay connect

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with her. Since he doesn't have a home or family

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to return to. He decides to stay on the ship,

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and so does Genesis. She's been put on the pre

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track for captain training and chooses to stay behind to

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make sure she's ready. She bonds with Mer of shipwide Shenanigans,

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having her true intent to rewrite an embarrassing part of

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her past. We also see Darren get his plan interrupted

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when he's kidnapped before he can transport home. Jaden sees

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this and pursues to help him, but quickly realizes that

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it's part of a wedding tradition. Darren is promised to

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marry a girl and lead his people with her as

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their new leaders, way before he's ready. That rips Jaden

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into being his best man, but chaos ensues when Darren

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feels conflicted between whose people expect him to be and

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who he's becoming the Academy. Just first reactions. I also

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wasn't too drawn into this one, to be honest. There

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were parts where I was kind of you isn't the

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fast forward fifteen second feature. It was pretty dialogue heavy.

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It was kind of a story that just didn't drag

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me in and I could see where it was going

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to go pretty early on. It is interesting to see

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a little bit more of Darren's home world, but also

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just brought up a lot of questions for me.

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No, no, I'm not going to beat around the bush

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on this episode. I'm not a fan at all. Okay,

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I consider this as probably the worst episode of Star

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Trek I've seen since Picards season two, And if you've

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seen season two at Picard, you know exactly what I'm

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talking about here. If this was Star Trek where years ago,

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where we got twenty four episodes in a season, I

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would kind of let this one slide because I would

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consider this one as a filler episode. But the Star

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Trek that we're living in today, you get ten episodes

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and that's it, so we don't have any room for

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filler episodes. What's however, and to me, I don't feel

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like there was a lot of character development at all

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in this episode to help drive the story. There was

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a few little things that I kind of be like, Okay,

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you know, I like the the story arc that they've

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done with Jayden and Remy, like they you know, because

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remember the pilot, they really hated each other. Remy was

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picking on Jaden, Okay, so I kind of get I

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like that that. Like, now this episode has kind of

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shown you that they are friends now because of what

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Jayden did here and to see that Jaden has developed

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a little bit into obviously being able to do public

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speaking better because the speech was awesome. But beyond that,

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I'm sorry this episode was garbage. I don't know about

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you guys, but I was bored to tears by the

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time I got to the end of this episode. I'm like,

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I never want to see this episode again. I never

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want to go back and revisit it again. And I

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hate to say that because last week's episode was so

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damn good. Yeah, it let down.

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It's interesting when you mentioned the disinterest in a repeat.

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There were times when I was like, all right, I

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may have missed something important and I skipped a couple

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of parts, so maybe I should go back and watches.

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And I couldn't bring myself to do it. Yeah, Wayne,

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what about you?

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No, I actually agree with all your points. It was

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the exact opposite of what I was expecting last week

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when we got that blurb from Paramounts. And I'm just

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really disappointed in it. You know, I was looking for

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answers to like the kid's background, something that you know,

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I felt would allow us to, you know, maybe attach

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ourselves a little bit more, both emotionally mentally to the characters.

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But we didn't get any of that.

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Really, we didn't.

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Get to see it.

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But we heard a lot of talk. That's all. This

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episode was basically talk talk talk, you know.

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We got.

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We got the story with Genesis and the training program,

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which for me had very little emotional impact. I mean, really,

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I like the character Genesis. I just couldn't care less

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about her lying on her application. It's just the way

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I felt about that. Maybe it could have been interesting,

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but it's just her telling us about oh, you know

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what she did. That's all we got. We got her

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telling us the story and then the story with with

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Rainey and Jaden was so in my opinion, is coke, cliche,

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and borning when it comes to sci fi that I

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was really uninterested in that part, to the point where

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I was picking up my phone and playing with it

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while the episode was airing, which is the first time

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for the series that I've done that. Plus that was

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some god awful ugly sets and costumes that they had.

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For those, I hate saying as I don't know what

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went into making them. They could have been a lot more,

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but it came across as very cheap and very gaudy

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and those but the biggest, my biggest disappointment, the biggest

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problem I have with this. There's no lasting consequences that

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I can see that'll come out of this episode. You know,

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Genesis may get a captaincy, Nope, back to the classes. Nothing,

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nothing happened. And then you got you know, Raymie has

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to be married off to save his world. Nope, back

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to classes, like nothing happened. Why waste a valuable episode

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on this? I just don't understand what they're thinking.

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Of, well, you know, speaking of like a waste of

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an episode, Like the whole thing revolves this around a

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wedding that's being annulled as they're celebrating right after they're done,

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or talking about like what were we even doing here?

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Let me go through the motions? Why.

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Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the costuming. And you

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know the scene where Jaden is wearing the outfit that

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he's supposed to wear as you know, best man kind

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of thing. When that was described as like coral and

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fish scales, that was like wet and cold. It made

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me uncomfortable to watch it because I was just like,

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like it physically made me feel like I was wearing

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that outfit. No, no, no, And it didn't come across

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like outside, that's something outside.

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I mean, that's a great description and it's great idea,

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but it didn't look like that. It's just like something made.

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I was straw and wooden, other crafty picked up off

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the ground. I mean, you know, it can't things like

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that can be done. We saw that there was a

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mini series recently called The War between the Land and

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the Sea that did something very similar to that. Really, well,

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is this wet fish scale?

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Look?

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But that wasn't it.

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But you've also got a species that apparent. I don't

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know if it's I guess it just confuses a little

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bit of what was going on with Rami in the

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earlier episode where he kind of kind of shows his

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fish self, if we can call it that. So is

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it that his entire species kind of subdues that and

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they don't walk around like that all the time or

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just in certain conditions.

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I don't know.

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Made it a bit confused question.

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It also seemed, as much as I preferred the Mirror

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and Genesis storyline, like it was entertaining, like the warp

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slug was was fun for a couple of minutes, but

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it also seemed like, you know, unnecessary shenanigans. It seemed

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like the bridge seemed was hugely far fetched, like, you know,

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it's not just let's poke around and you know, try

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to be stealthy about pretending to be on the bridge,

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but let's go ahead and activate the warp core. Don't

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buy it. And I know that was to distract from

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her making the programmable matter key, but it also just

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feels like it's it's it deflates the whole kind of

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tension of her being on the Captain's track, and I

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would think that, you know, even though there's a big

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punishment for what they did to take her out of

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that track. It just feels like they're waiting to put

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her back in it anyway, versus having something that a

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little bit more consequential, a little bit more like your

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captaincy thing is at stake now, so you have to

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behave better. It just puts her back to like undefined.

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I don't know. So my question here is maybe I

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missed this in the episode Where the hell is the doctor?

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He's gone?

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Keep going?

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I mean, yeah, he's not in this episode. I don't

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know why we're missing half the characters in this episode.

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Just like I said, it doesn't make sense why they

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why they made this episode. It really doesn't. And to

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make things even more confusing for us, you know, I

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went online after I watched it episode and to see

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what everybody else was talking about, and this episode seems

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to be getting a lot of high praise and favorable

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reviews for it. How I don't see it. I don't

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know why. I'm you know, they're they're saying that this

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is probably the most star Trek of all the episodes

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so far, But I couldn't disagree more when it comes

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to the story. I mean, I just I don't understand.

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You know, I don't understand this episode. Maybe it's something here,

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maybe it will tie into the remaining three episodes will

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finally make sense, but I don't. I don't see that happening.

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I just this feels like a This feels like a

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bottle episode, you know, it really does. It feels like

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a bottle episode, like they're needing to save money for

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like the season finale, but you only got ten episodes.

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That was the whole point of having ten episodes. We've

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trimmed away as much fat as we possibly could, so

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there is no need for doing the bottle episodes. But

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here we are, and I feel.

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We're covering the same ground with Caleb over and over

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and over with him right now. You know, I get it,

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you know you don't want to share your emotions with

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with with haarrama. But and what we've covered that the

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last episode, remember a little bit. So here we are

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again and you're going through the same things. But Jennythis

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is trying to get you out of that. I mean,

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I like the book ending thing that they do at

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the beginning and the end, where you know he's he's

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recording that message for her and he doesn't send. He

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just deletes it, and Jenesis basically says, look, just basically

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speak from your heart, say it and then send it.

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Don't even think about it, and he does that at

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the end. But I mean, didn't we already cover this ground?

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Kind of how many times has he have he done

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this very similar situation since we've known him? In what

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is this six episodes?

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I just don't understand seven Okay, I don't understand why

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we keep covering the same ground. All right, let's move on.

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Yeah, it's it's there's an interesting theory that's that's coming

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to mind. I wonder if somebody who skips this episode

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and goes to the next episode, depending on what that is,

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could be satisfied with what happens in this if they

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get a last Week on Star for the Academy kind

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of summary right as they're starting another episode, theoretically could

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get all that from it, Like, Okay, so Terima is away,

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Sam is glitchy but gonna get fixed. N was going

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to get some kind of leadership and didn't. Jayden and

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Raymi got closer, and he's coming back to the Academy

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Like it's kind of an inconsequential kind of thing. So,

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I mean, one good thing about Wayne what you were

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saying about you know, some people are saying this is

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the most Star Trek episode. What makes me happy about

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that is that the definition of what is Star Trek

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has a wide range of application for a lot of

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different people. So I'm glad that for some people this

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is hitting the note. If that's what we get out

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of this series, then that's a win. Just more people

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that are engaging with Trek and interested in digging for more.

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That's what keeps the IP alive. But this one just

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I think for us for what we've been seeing for

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you know, our history with it, We've seen this kind

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of thing before, and it's just one that just doesn't

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seem like.

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I would rather listen and watch Cling On Rap then

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then watch if that's anything.

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Now you're going to go back and watch Subspace Rhapsody

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in the way, which one you don't like.

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Yeah, Well, to expand a little bit of what you

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were saying, Scott, this this feels like an episode that

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they're gonna be able to skip that you could just

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like not watch this in the season when you're watching

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the season and you know it's not gonna make any difference.

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Now I guess we gotta wait until the rest three

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three episodes aired because maybe there is some connection. I

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just don't see it making any difference. And you know,

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the two characters that I wanted to find out about,

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uh see them in terrema like, yeah, that's your name

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the baita said, I want to know what happened to them?

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And did we know? We didn't learn anything, so and

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we got to know we got to find out about them,

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so probably next episode. I feel like they took you

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know this, I don't know if we had had if

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we had twenty six episodes, I could I could see

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this happening. I just ten episodes. I feel like, you know,

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you're going to take two episodes to talk about the

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consequences of last episodes.

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So I don't know.

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I just feel that the writers and the producers may

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have made a bad mistake, and I hope it isn't

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it doesn't damage the series some reputation with a lot

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of its viewers.

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What I think I'd rather have, like if we're in

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an alternate universe where we have our you know, our preferences.

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I could see the two co plots of this one

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being short trecks and what I would have rather had

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seen was the consequences and the long term consequences that

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it had on Tarima and Sam because they're the ones

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that feel like they had most of the impact or

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something having to do with the death of the Vulcan

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cadet in the in the previous episodes, it's almost like

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we're just kind of skipped over that month of consequences.

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I think they really cheated Tarama's character because I mean,

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we really just get words from Caleb. Oh, she's okay,

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by the way, you know, she's hanging out and just

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recovering on Beta's end. Yeah, really, that's what we're gonna

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get on what she went through. Me Granted, we may

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see more of that in the next episode, so I

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don't want to be too judging on that, but for

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this episode as a whole, just in this episode that's

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a cop out.

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Man.

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Well, it also seems like one it's revealing that Caleb

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is probably more naive and disconnected because I doubt after

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having an implant ripped out of her neck being seen

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as the Geen Gray of the group, even if temporarily right,

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and then potentially like all the stuff we talked about

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last time, like this damaging relationships and her potential future

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to come back. I don't know, it doesn't feel like

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that sounds like, you know, something that's okay after a month.

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Yep, I agree, Yeah, just a month. I don't understand it,

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and it's just it's not going to take me away

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from the show. I'm still looking forward to the next

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episode and I want to I want to see where

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they're going, obviously, because we've only got three more episodes left,

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so let's let's see. Let's hold on and see how

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it's going to end, because I'm curious what that's going

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to look like. But yeah, this episode, I don't don't

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want to revisit it. I really don't.

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Uh.

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And if if we were doing starter trek on this series,

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I would recommend not watching this episode.

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But this is the make and now of Academy.

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Absolutely.

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When we do our top ten episodes from season one

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Starfleet Academy, well no.

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Wait a minute, it'd be like five.

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I guess we'd have to shorten that number.

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Well we would.

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We'll tell you to watch one of the other ones twice.

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Yes, Well, it'll just be a.

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More efficient episode. We'll just say, all right, here's the

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one you just to skip. Okay, here's the nine.

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Yeah exactly. But that's about it for that episode. I

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don't have really much else to say about it because

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I just did not enjoy it at all. Now and

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we will just carry on. So let's let's go to

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dive into some of our favorite parts of the episode.

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Let's talk about which character we thought shined the most. Wayne,

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I'll let you go first.

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Well, can I'll say character wise? Well, none of them

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really did in my opinion. Now, the actors, actors, yes,

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characters know, because some of the actors, they really did

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act their songs off. And I'll give them their credit

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because you know, it's it's hard to be a good

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actor when you're given a kind of lackluster story here.

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But I guess if I have to pick one, it's

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probably gonna be Genesis. I was more interested in her story,

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even though I think it's very, very flawed that I

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was the other one, and specifically Billy Shepherd. Yeah, the

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point of her story was that she was doing her

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her damned is to prove that she deserves her time

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and her position is Starfleet Academy and didn't just get

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like handouts because of her family and background. And she

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does a good job conning Caleb into sneaking onto the

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bridge so she could hack into the system and change

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her admission. Shows some true planning and cunning, and I

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think that Aki is wrong to deny her the captain

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training because basically she just showed exactly what what's needed

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to be a captain. I'm not sure if that was intentional,

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but I hope that's the right what the writers were

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going for, because that's what I took out.

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I'll see, Scott, what about you?

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So we're gonna frustrate Jeff. Guess we're gonna have these

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big pulses.

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Is it what crew member or what character, It doesn't

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matter you choose.

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I'll use a cheat card from your last episode and

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say it was Broadco was not in this episode. Pass

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h Kira was that her name the breda bee?

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Yes, we am.

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Because she recognized what her people would need in that situation.

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Tried it as much as possible to welcome Darrim into

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that situation and kind of take control of it. But

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when she saw that that was going to start to

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fall apart, and she was like, I'm not going to

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beat around the bush for the rest of our lives

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and just assume that everything is fine. I'm going to

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set you free from this, no hard feelings, and I'll

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go ahead and rule on my own. I've got this.

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That's quite a thing to say at at a at

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a wedding, and to take control of that. I'll give

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her credit.

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For that, fair enough, what about you, Dave? So I

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don't have a lot of good stuff to say about

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this episode, but I do. For Jaden, I think to

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me he stood out the most particular because he was

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asked to give a speech a toast. We know what

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his fear of with that, and you know, because he

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was deeply uncomfortable before doing that. In this moment, though,

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he gave it very powerful speech for Remy and recovered

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a situation that could have been really bad for Remy

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and for himself. Instead, he he you know, swallowed his

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pride and went out there and gave such an amazing

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speech for his friend, which in the end helped Remy

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go back to Starfleet and made his wife Yance whatever

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you want to call her, realize that he she needs

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to let him out of the marriage. So I feel like,

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you know, he had the moment that shined the most

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in this episode. Plus the mere fact he's stepping up

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for somebody who really bullied him, and you know, he

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let all of that stuff go and to finally let

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his true self come through and a friendship was born

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between the two of them. Yeah, yeah, all right. So

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if you could be any character in this episode, who

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would it be? And why? Scott? I'll let you go first. Uh.

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Je Reno Okay, because she's got the piece and quiet

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on the ship for the most part, and I just

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I love how she handles the situations that come up.

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She's like, oh man, you guys are in a deep crap,

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but all right, let's go. So yeah, except for the big,

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big big toe, the big the big toe part, but

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you know, you know, hype of spray, get that done.

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So yeah, exactly, Wayne, What about you? None?

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No, not just hold.

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I see be the warp's lug.

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You know, I absolutely agree with you. I chose that

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Jet Reno too, because she's just she's just wandering around

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me the empty halls of the academy with only your

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thoughts to keep her in company. You know, Stumbling into

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the two kit cadets were bad. You know, I'd love

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to have some time to myself like that sounds like fun,

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and she wasn't any of the other characters that we're

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going through those horrible storylines, so I chose her.

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You know, it's entirely possible that the only reason that

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she caught Caleb and Genesis on the bridge is because

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they beat her to it, and she was like, I'm

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gonna get up on the bridge.

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And go Yeah, I can see her doing that too.

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Well for me, I'm going with na Lah, who honestly

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seemed to have the easiest job in this episode, except

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for you know, having to interrogate the two cadets there

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at the end. But and despite the luggage that she

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had to pack, why are you packing luggage in this

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universe when you get this transport? I don't get it.

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And why are you packing so many pairs of shoes

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when you don't wear shoes? Okay, sure we'll go with that.

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So yeah, I think, you know, she's still that motherly type.

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You know, she's still even though she has to discipline

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Genesis and for the million time Caleb, I don't know

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when he's gonna get get it straight, get it going.

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But I still like that she through the tough situations

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when she has to be the chancellor she has to

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be the mother type, she has to be the teacher.

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She's still able to pull that out, and she's able

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to do that, but still, you know, give a teaking moment,

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but still make sure that she keeps them where they

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need to be because this is two cadets now that

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could have been expelled from the academy, and she realizes

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that she sees the good in them, she sees the

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potential that Starfleet will have with having them there on

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a ship somewhere. So I want not on this one.

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Well, it is interesting how, like, you know, through all that,

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all their flaws, it's it's Starfleet Academy, not Captain's academy. Right,

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Not all of them are going to end up on

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the bridge. There are some that are going to be

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Lieutenant Picard from the alternate reality that wears the blue

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uniform and never golf. But it's helping each of them

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find their So.

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Yeah, this is well. Let's go to Wayne's favorite part

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of the episode and the the course of the Easter Eggs. Guys,

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I didn't find any because I just was so pissed

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at this episode. I just let I let it all go. Wayne,

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did you find anything.

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There?

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There?

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Really wasn't very many in this episode. It's a pity

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there wasn't, because I might have paid a closer attention

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to it if there was. But I kind of I

471
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kind of pulled a few out. Some of them are

472
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like really stretching it. But we do know of one

473
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other officer who went through the pre command track for

474
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Captain c That's that's not something new. If you remember

475
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Captain John Harriman of the USA Centerprice B from the

476
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Star Trek from Star Trek Generations, he he also went

477
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through that. When Naula is describing the requirements for the

478
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pre emission track to Genesis, you briefly hear composer Jeff

479
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Russo include just a tidbit of the original Star Trek

480
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theme in his score. On the Bridge of the Athena.

481
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When the view screen displays the Star app you can

482
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see reference to the Sarathon space. This area of space

483
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was mentioned a couple of times in Star Trek Discovery,

484
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especially the episodes That Hole is You Part One and

485
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People of Earth during the show's third season, and finally,

486
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Captain Acki mentions to Genesis that references don't count when

487
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deciding admission to the Academy. Well, that's something that has

488
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definitely changed because on Deep Space nine, Nog needed a

489
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reference from Captain Cisco in order to join starting good point.

490
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There's been a change there.

491
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Good point, I missed that one. That's good catch, So

492
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maybe they did change it. Who knows.

493
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Just one other little thing, like of all the games

494
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that you could play toxic, non Toxic, I'll skip that entirely,

495
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Like open up a canvas or of goog and stick

496
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your hand.

497
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In the fith Flabrilette, the fifth Labrilette. You don't want

498
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to play that.

499
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No, no, yeah, I'd rather go with Strange New Worlds

500
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where they had the what's that episode where they had

501
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like check things off the list like walking on the

502
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hull and sending your name and have one of them. Yeah,

503
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like we've got, you know, generations of board games and

504
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people come up with. That's what they got to get into.

505
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But kids being dumb kids. Yeah, at these they're not

506
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eating tide pods.

507
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Well, I mean they are playing science Labroulette, so I.

508
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Mean not too far off.

509
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It's not too far off, right, No, I don't know

510
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about that. Well anyway, So next week's episode, The Life

511
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of the Stars, I believe the episode is called Wayne,

512
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did you see any summary synopsis of what it might

513
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be about?

514
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A fair amount plus gave us just yeah, they gave

515
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us a short one doesn't say much though, but a

516
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visiting instructor uses unorthodox methods to help cadets process their

517
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emotions at the academy.

518
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Nope, that's it. That could go either way. Let's see

519
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how that goes.

520
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I have a feeling that the the visiting and structure

521
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is visiting instructor is tilling because we know she's She

522
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hasn't yet, so I think that I think that's who

523
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they're talking about.

524
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It has to be because I know she's in this season.

525
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.119
You're right, that would make sense. Okay, I'm good with that.

526
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I'm as cool.

527
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Yeah, all right, Well thanks listeners. What do you think

528
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is going to happen this season? What are your thoughts

529
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on the episode that we just covered? Do you agree

530
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with us? Do you disagree with us? Let us know.

531
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535
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536
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539
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appreciate it. Scott Wayne, thank you so much for joining

540
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me the Academy. It's pleasure as always. Likewise, and you

541
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.359
say we have fun this week, but I don't know, Yeah,

542
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I don't know. I was. I was very anxious to

543
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find out your guys' opinion after I saw the episode

544
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a few days ago. But pretty much on par this episode,

545
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we all pretty much agree. We didn't.

546
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I mean, you gotta eat your vegetables to finish the plate.

547
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You're right. I mean every first season has has a stinker.

548
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:18.599
All the seasons, all the series have done that. I

549
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guess this is the seasons.

550
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Yeah, And who knows, we might look back and say like,

551
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oh now I understand why. Yeah, yeah, someday.

552
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I don't know about that. But well I might just

553
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be a work. I mean it worp out of here.

554
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Subspace rhaps at some point.

555
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Well, it could happen. Like I said, I was gonna say,

556
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it took me thirty years to appreciate the Royale, so

557
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you know, hey, hey, thirty years and I'll appreciate this.

558
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This is fair, all right. I'll give you that one, Wayne,

559
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fair enough, all right. To all you listening to the show,

560
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