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In medieval times, a sport arose embraced by noble and
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peasant fans alike. The only noble knights could compete. The
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sport was jousting. Angela, let's talk about a film by
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Brian Helgeland, his two thousand and one medieval anachronistic action
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film maybe action comedy, A Night's Tale. Hello everybody, I'm Jeff.
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Johnson and I'm Angela Norris.
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And this is a film by Podcast. So last week
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we began our month of nas Knights and Nascar with
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two thousand and one's The Fast and the Furious. This
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week we shift our focus to nights and maybe one
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of my all time favorites for this genre. Angela. Yes, okay,
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So if you're talking about movies about knights, I think
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maybe the top three has to be ex Caliber Kingdom
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of Heaven, the Director's Cut, Mind You, and Monty Python
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and The Holy Grail.
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I was gonna say if you didn't mention that one
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in the top three, I was gonna be teeky. Yeah.
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Yeah, Yeah, that's that's a pretty good cover.
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Yeah, this one, this one, I mean the first joust
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with when William William takes over and the crowd is
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doing that we will rock you. This the clap and
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the stomp and we hear queens, we will rock you.
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The movie wins me over immediately first time I see
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it back in two thousand and one, and I'm like, wait,
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what are we doing? You know? And I kind of
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mentioned this is a an anachronistic movie because it's a
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little it's using music that's out of place at a time.
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This has got an incredible rock soundtrack, and I know
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we're going to talk about that, but I just it's
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just such a fun movie.
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Yes, I think they did a great job with that.
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And even the director when he was told why didn't
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you use an orchestra. He's like a show's work around
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on the fourteenth century either.
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So, you know, while we do see those types of
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movies set with a really good, you know, orchestral soundtrack,
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you know, that was the argument for that, which is true.
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Yeah, so I think with the.
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You know, it being a good story about you know, friendship,
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you know, a guy trying to change his stars and
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his you know, and and be be the master of
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his own you know, destiny rather than it being dictated
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by you know, others or birth because you know, okay,
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and just you know, having a good it's a good
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fun time and I think that really adds to it.
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If it was orchestral one, it's not that kind of movie.
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It's definitely more I think.
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The adventure comedy, you know, adventure calmed, lighthearted, it's got
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it's just got a really good mix.
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And yeah, if you did an orchestra, it would what
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are we even doing here? And it would have been crap.
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So this was the appropriate creative direction with it. And yes,
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it definitely adds to it. I feel like it's actually
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another character.
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Yeah, it's a great, great direction. By the way, let's
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talk about this director. Yes, Angela three things you may
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not know about Brian Helgeland, and I'll even give you
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a quote. First, he won the Oscar and Razzie Award
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the same weekend in nineteen ninety eight.
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I did see that.
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Yeah, best screenplay for La Confidential for you know, which
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the thing, like we we like this year, we're focused
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If we haven't done that one, we have to.
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That's just we've got Yeah, we've got like I have
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That, but I think weak, nudge nudge no.
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check it out. Maybe you want us to talk about
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LA Confidential.
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Please yes, absolutely.
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Back to Brian Helglen by the way that that story
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I told you about his the Oscar and the Razzie
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mm hm. He proudly displays them side by side on.
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His mantle and why why wouldn't you.
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Well, why wouldn't you? But keep in mind but humble, Yeah,
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he's only the fourth person in Razzie history to voluntarily
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ask and accept their award.
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Gotta I gotta look that up because whoever the other
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three are, that's just fun people.
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They Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, because I think I one
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of the things he because he talked about he said
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he puts him side by side just to basically kind
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of remind him about the spectrum of yes, you know,
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Hollywood and.
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The creative things. So yeah, I mean, you got it.
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You gotta take the you know, that's wins wherever you get.
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I mean, it's just just kind of cant pullet yourself
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and move on.
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Yeah, this guy, he he holds, he holds film directors
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in very high regard. He also, I mean, when we're
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talking about screenwriters who become directors, which is what he did,
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he's a big fan for them. But his mentor famous
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director Angel you want to take a crack at it,
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and he guesses who his famous Who who his mentor was?
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Oh gosh, I didn't put that in my notes. I
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know where his screen.
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Just take it. Take a guess. No, take a guess.
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You're not we're not cramming for the Take a guess.
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We're not cramming for that.
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I know, I know, I feel like I'm being tested.
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I'm trying to think of like a screenwery about the no.
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No, just a director, famous.
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Director, direct Steven Spielberg.
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I don't know.
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That's partly not it, that's not that's a good guy.
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His mentor, Man, you got you got all flustered there,
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I know I did.
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I'm so sorry. I was prepared for anything else.
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I'm like, I know a student.
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Who's just hey, when you ready for me, when you're
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ready for me to zig, I'm gonna zag. That's how
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His mentor was Richard Donner. And this was after after
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they had worked Yeah it was. It was after they
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worked together on Conspiracy Theory. So okay, i'll tell you
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right now. Yeah, we've covered Richard Donner a couple of
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times now, yeah, you know, and we'll cover him again.
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for Conspiracy Theory. I love that film. It's such an
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amazing movie, and I don't think it gets the the
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cloud that it deserves. So anyways, moving on from a
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screenwriting perspective, he cites Tony Scott as the director he
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felt closest to sensibility wise, because they both happen to
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believe that any single moment in a film can be ordinary, absurd, tragic,
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and funny at the same time. And that's absolutely that's
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that's a writer's perspective. If I if I've ever heard
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one lastly on screenwriting, he says, and I quote, it's
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okay to lie if you reach a higher truth doing so.
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That's an interesting concept.
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That is, Yeah, if it leads you to.
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Yeah, I don't yeah, enlightenment.
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I suppose that.
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Yeah, sure, Angela. I'm gonna challenge you with a five
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word synopsis. Tell me what a night's tale is all about,
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using exactly five words.
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I actually came up with several of them, but I'm
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going to go with this one, all right. So self
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proclaimed night winds favor.
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That's good, thank you. That's a that's a head scratcher too,
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because if I'm listening, you know, we mentioned a couple
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of movies about nights, and now I'm like, wait, self favor,
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and it's all in the it's the devil's in the details,
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it's self proclaimed night. That's it. That's very good, very good.
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You I went more uh rudimentary. I'm not I'm not
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the critical thinker. You are today. How about how about
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medieval nights with rock music? There you go, yeah, I
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mean that's pretty cut and dry.
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in the audience, like huh nights, yeah, Friday with some
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rock music.
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Yep, sure, sign me up.
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I feel like it works, right, Yeah, all right, Well, look,
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we are going to take a quick break and when
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we get back, we'll talk about this rock soundtrack, we'll
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talk about this cast, and we'll even do a little
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bit of background. I'm sure when we return. Welcome back.
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Angela and I are discussing Brian Helgelin's two thousand and
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one action comedy medieval action comedy A Night's Tale. Angela,
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take me back to two thousand and one. You've got
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a type. I know you do. Yeah, But in two
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thousand and one, what were you thinking about Heath Ledger
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in the role of William Thatcher or otherwise known as
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Sir Ulrich von Lichtenstein of Gelderland. I know, that's a mouthful.
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It is a say that three times.
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It's like and Stean Stein.
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Well, he Fledger was definitely on the radar, especially uh
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after seeing him with Julia Styles and ten things I
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Hate About You, which is still one of my favorite
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like nostalgic pieces to go to.
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That came out when I was in high school, so
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he was definitely on the radar.
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I think about the same time, if not the same
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year I think The Patriot came out, If not your prior, yeah,
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Patriot might have been two thousand and this one was one,
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if memory serves, So yeah, he he was definitely on
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the the the hotty watch list, and you know, one
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one of the heart throbs of yeah of that time.
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So I remember seeing going to see this in the
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theater strictly for him, and I remember having a really
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good time in a chorus, laughing and I get injured
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duced to you know Alan Tudic.
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Who I freaking love that guy.
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Who does We'll get to Oh, I know I'm trying
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to jump the gun, but yeah, just uh And then again,
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you know the rock music.
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We're like, okay, this is you know, a little bit
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different because then later that year we had Mulan Rouge
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coming out with that modern juke box you know, those
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music and stuff like that. So it was an interesting creative,
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you know, choice of using that kind you know, that
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fourteenth century setting with rock music and you know, just
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having a good, good fun adventure about you know, a
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decent guy that you a very likable character who refused
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to you know, be you know, pigeonholed or to not
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you know, reach his dreams just because of you know,
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he wasn't born in a certain you know manner and
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that every man can you know, make his own destiny
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things like that.
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He was a very firm believer with that, and it
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was it was a fun watch.
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time in his career, we we know he will bring
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the audio. He'll he will bring the Angela's into the
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He'll pack the theaters full of Angela's and Angela's friends
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because you know, he's easy on the eyes, right. But
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he's also in The Patriot and he is showing and
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and then this movie hits, and this should have been
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the sign for Hollywood to say, this is our next
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big blockbuster star. He's gonna do action. He's gonna do
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he's the He's like a new Tom Cruise, is what
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he what I think Hollywood probably expected him to be,
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to take because he wants a challenge. For him, it's
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all about the art, and he goes on to have
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this incredible career, uh tragically cut. Yeah, but I cried,
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I did. I I agree? Yeah, but I mean this guy,
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you know, William Thatcher who looks like he's you know,
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hey that whenever if they ever get to make in
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like a ThunderCats movie or he man in The Master's
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of the Universe, which they're about to do that one.
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This is the guy, right, it should be the guy.
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But I mean I never expected him to play the Joker,
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and I certainly didn't expect him to play my favorite
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iteration of that character, because you know, say what you will,
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we all have our favorite Joker actor. But I mean
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Ledger's mind no, his was just.
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ever seen or I think will at least in our lifetime.
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What do you think about what do you think about
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young Mark Addey?
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Here?
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This is this is Robert Rafian.
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Long before Yes, oh Roland he Yeah, he was a funny,
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funny guy and a very a good uh you know,
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right hand man, trying to be the sensible you know.
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Of the trio and uh and and then I just
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laughed whenever.
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He just always got starry eyed when the.
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Noble woman came around, and he just dull tongue tied
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and Twitter paid it and it was just funny.
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I'm like, I want to see that guy.
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he's one of the squires, and we get you know,
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the the quick the quick version of the synopsis would be,
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you know, we got three guys. They're squires for a
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night who you know passes away, uh embarrassingly untimely, and
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rather than tucktail and run, Heath Ledger's character William Thatcher says,
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I could do this guys, you know, and they're like,
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you're lying, You're not noblee. So they put on this
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whole soul charade where he's just going to go from
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town to town in these contests, these jousting contests, and
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you know, then the other two are going to act
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as his squire. Mark Addy could not be having as
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good a time if we didn't have your guy. Yeah,
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Alent Di yes in the in the role of as
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uh as what as it's why isn't it? Yeah?
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I will yeah, And he's just so quick, like he'll
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say so funny and then immediately like want to go
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into a fist fight.
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Yeah, talking me about al you love he?
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I love this guy.
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And of course one of the favorite scenes, you know, after.
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Shannon Sossiman's character, you know, Jocelyn basically you know, play
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Kate's William.
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Of like, oh, he's just a boy with a stick
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and dah da da.
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Dad and she walks away and ald like it's called
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a lot.
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Hello, Hello, Hello.
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So I feel like that was one of the more
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like memorable scenes.
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Just he's just so funny. He just cracks me up.
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He just goes from you know, like zero to sixty.
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You know, I kind of feel like he might be
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my favorite character in the movie. The comic relief that
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he's providing is just amazing.
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But it fits so well. It's not like overly you know,
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it's just it still fits in with the.
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Realm of you know, it's not making this whole thing
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a total silly thing, but yeah, it just it's a
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very nice, blended balance and he just does.
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It in the only way that Alan can do it.
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I mean he I mean this was kind of like,
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this is kind of what put him on the map.
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If you think about it, he had done I think
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he did Patch Adams in maybe ninety eight, yeah, the
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wonderful one of the Yeare movie and maybe two thousand
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so god, yeah, but think about that one. Yeah, but okay,
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so and I'm probably I'm not gonna get him an
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order obviously, but yeah, think about After a Night's Tale,
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we get him an ice age, we get him as
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the crazy pirate guy in Dodgeball the Yes, and then
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two thousand and five Serenity where he's now he's feah, Yeah,
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he's arrived from what to Wash. Yeah. I I love
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Alent Tudic. And we you know, I was with the
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con Men last last season. We were I want to say,
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we were in Michigan. We're motor City con mm hmm.
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Tudic's there and he is a crowd favorite.
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I'm gonna tell you that, right well, of course, yeah.
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Now, and the great thing I gotta I gotta, I
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just gotta shout out Alan Tudic here for a second.
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You know, in the in the event, in the possibility
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that he ever hears this, uh, Tudic is one of
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the consummate professionals when it comes to these conventions. The
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guy wasn't just there to sit there and sign things
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and take photos. He was engaged with his fans. He's
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been I'm watching people. They're bringing all kinds of like
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things from Serenity and Firefly, they're bringing things from Superman.
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They're bringing everything, right, and he's he's like, oh wow,
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look at it. And he's taking an interest in what
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they're what.
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They're talking about.
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Uh Dave. And I talked with him. I want to say,
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it's a little I felt bad because I was like, man,
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we are There's a ton of people behind us that
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are like shutting up and get out of here. But
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we just we kept having a great conversation, right, and
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I happened to you know, he's he knows what people
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are gonna be asking me, like, let's talk about Firefly,
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let's talk about Superman, Let's talk about And I said, Alan,
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I got I gotta be honest with you. You know,
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I love all your work, but Tucker and Dale versus
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Evil is your crowning achievement. And he got this wide
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eyed and smile on his face. He's like, thank you man,
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Like no one talks about Tucker and Dale. I was like,
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well they should, it's so good.
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Oh I have to look that one up.
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Yeah, I haven't watched that.
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Oh I'll take Okay, listeners, we all know Angela is
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a bit of a fraidy cat. Horror films are not
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her thing, and slasher movies are definitely not her thing.
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But Angela this is a a horror comedy. Yeah, and
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it's is.
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It kind of like in the realms of like Slither,
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Like I was able to watch.
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That one, like Nathan fo Oh yeah, okay, so it's
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it's in that realm, but but goofier and funnier. But
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you will laugh, like I don't think you're gonna jump
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too if at all. You maybe will, but you're gonna
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laugh a lot. And Tutic is incredible in it.
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I will up.
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Okay, that's okay. Maybe he's my favorite character, but I
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think the best character. And you know, maybe maybe a
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hot take, but I think Paul Bettany wins the movie
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as Jeffrey Chaucer for.
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Sure, and you definitely will get more than your lifetime's
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worth of his bear.
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But ex can we talk about his introduction for his character? Right?
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I'm like oh, if I ever see his beare butt again,
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it'll be too zu.
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But yes, you will definitely get your fill of fitness.
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So I know, uh, dipping a little bit into production
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history if if I'm not if I'm not mistaken. The
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film takes its name from Chaucer's story, The Knights Tale, right.
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A Canterbury's tale, I believe.
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Yeah, they took you out one of them.
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From the canter Tales.
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Yes, but yeah, and it was written ye Jeffrey Chaucer.
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And I think I think the whole idea, I think
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I think Hegelnd's whole whole idea around this story is
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it's from Chaucer's point of view, like a at a
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lost time in his life before he becomes Jeffrey Chaucer. Yes, right,
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I mean that that works. That absolutely works. I love it.
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Absolutely.
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He the way he is like his Harald, Okay, he's like, hey,
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you know he he kind of joins this ragtag group
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as the Herald, right, because he's gonna split some of
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the profits. He's got a gambling problem. That's why he
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keeps losing his money and his clothes and everything else
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nearly his life a few times. Yes, But the fact
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that he's I mean, he's kind of like a hype man,
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a ring announcer if you will. Yes, you know the
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way he called you know, he it's like it's like
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fight night. I love it is.
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He is the medieval pr man.
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Yes, he is fantastic, absolutely fantastic. And you know, we
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could we could talk all night about him. I'm gonna
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move on because we yea, we gotta we gotta, we
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gotta show to do. Yeah, can we talk about the
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lovely Shannon Sossaman.
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Yeah, little Joscelyn.
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Yeah, yeah, playing Joscelyn, lady Jostly. Okay, well tell me,
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tell me, tell me your thoughts on on her performance.
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I think she's adorable.
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She is, I you know, and of course, you know,
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they had the costuming and like the hairstyles, you know,
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was a little bit more you know, Mono two, but
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I think it kind of matched along with that rock
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you know.
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The music, and and that likable enough.
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her you know character that I was just like, why okay,
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but butt any who, this is a medieval tell so
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they're all supposed to you know, fall in love like
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at first sight and then basically just you know, whatever
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you say, madam, you know, I will do silly men.
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But uh but in that yeah, she was cute.
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I mean, I know she was in a she was
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kind of you know, for a minute, they're like the
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it girl around this time, and then she just kind
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of like drifted, you know, off. Didn't really see her
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in anything. I even looked her up, like she really
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hasn't you know, done anything, which you know, you know,
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all for her if that's what she wanted to do.
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But I was just kind of surprised she doesn't have
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a you know, more things.
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That she you know, well, okay, so it's it's the mystery.
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I guess that is what I'm getting at because think
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think about this. She'd done a little bit of TV, yeah,
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and then A Night's Tale is her feature film debut. Yeah,
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way to knock it out of the park, and following
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yeah with each nothing but this a year later in
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two thousand and two, not one but two big projects.
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She's got forty Days and forty Nights with Josh Harden
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and then she's got the Rules of Attraction with uh,
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well it's like an ensemble cast. Yeah, but you know,
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James Vanderbeek would obviously be the star.
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That's right, Yeah, the.
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Late James Vanderbeges. Okay, So a year after A Night's Tale,
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her feature film debut, she does these other two big movies.
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Two thousand and three, she's in The Order, which I
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don't think was that good. I definitely think that kind
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of was a miss, not on her, not at all.
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Was that the one where it was like four guys
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like in a secret confusing?
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Yeah? Well, she basically like, well it was. It was
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a thriller. Now here's the thing. It's basically it's like
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a reunion because the in two thousand and three of
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The Order, it's it's written and directed by Brian helgiland
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it stars Heath Ledger and market He basically got the
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band back together, and it's kind of like a mystery thriller.
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Mystery thriller. I remember seeing it in the theaters. Its
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just it didn't hit like it just wasn't wasn't a
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good film in my opinion. Now think about that, because
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it's by two thousand and five, she's in Shane Black's
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Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, which Andrew Blakely and I covered,
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hyeh last season.
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Not man, man, it's been a minute since I've seen that. Man,
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I must have blinked and missed her that.
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Well you did, because here's why. In two thousand and one,
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she's playing Joscelyn, the lead female role.
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In two thousand and five, she's playing the role is
483
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:25.359
credited as pink hair girl. Wow, what what happened to
484
00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.079
Shannon's awsoman? I don't understand it?
485
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:30.200
Well again, that just goes back to the hole you
486
00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.640
put an oscar next to a razzie like first year,
487
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.240
like you know, and then something. Yeah, because I don't
488
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.200
think it's necessarily for her lack of.
489
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:40.039
I don't know. Could it could be, and that could be,
490
00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:43.920
you know, I mean, yeah, she's like a Phebe Kates.
491
00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:46.000
She just decides that I'm done, I'm gonna retire and
492
00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:47.680
I'm gonna go do what I want to do. Yeah.
493
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:50.640
Absolutely, and if that's hey, more power to you girl.
494
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:50.880
Yeah.
495
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:52.680
You know, as long as you're happy, you do it.
496
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:54.960
She's yeah, she's doing she wants to hope she's happy,
497
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:56.759
but it would have been nice to have more of her.
498
00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:02.079
Yeah, rufus Sewell, he plays such a good battie.
499
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:05.079
He is, he is on like, I don't know, maybe
500
00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:08.440
it's just the English in him. But he's like he's
501
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.960
like Jason Isaac's evil in this Yes, yeah, he is
502
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:16.079
so good in this He's playing uh what is it
503
00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:21.680
a count? Yeah, yeah, he's such a dick in this movie.
504
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:24.680
So I know, and you're just the whole first interaction
505
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:28.799
when he's sitting next to Joscelyn and just going off,
506
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:29.920
and you just know in her head.
507
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:31.400
She's like, oh my god, I want to elbow this
508
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:32.319
guy in the nose.
509
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:34.440
Like he's going full gust on.
510
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:36.759
Like just oh yeah, just fool on, look at me,
511
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:37.720
just puffer, you know.51200:26:37.880 --> 00:26:39.880
And then she but she still manages, you know, with51300:26:39.920 --> 00:26:42.480
her you know, little comments of waying to you know,51400:26:42.599 --> 00:26:45.720
kind of somewhat put him in his place, you know, indirectly.51500:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.400
And and the of course the crack me up the51600:26:49.400 --> 00:26:52.680
scene when they have their their dance, uh and he's51700:26:52.720 --> 00:26:57.279
just just standing there behind a table, just few switching and.51800:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.319
You know he's into believe because he's trying to make51900:27:01.359 --> 00:27:02.200
fun of the guy.52000:27:02.519 --> 00:27:06.440
But you can have all of these euphemism jokes about okay,52100:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.039
you can joust, but can you joust?52200:27:09.559 --> 00:27:10.160
Can you job?52300:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.880
Yeah?52400:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.799
Let's uh, Angela, I I gotta be honest. I gotta52500:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.279
I gotta ask you because I don't know a lot52600:27:19.640 --> 00:27:21.839
about the background of this movie. I know, I know52700:27:21.880 --> 00:27:23.640
they filmed it in the Czech Republic.52800:27:23.440 --> 00:27:25.400
YEP and Czech Republic.52900:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.319
Yeah, I know they were kind of sharing studio space53000:27:28.400 --> 00:27:32.440
with the Hughes Brothers from Hell, which we also covered53100:27:32.440 --> 00:27:34.400
that one. That's been a couple couple of seasons ago.53200:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.119
Scott Hoffman and I talked about from Hell. Okay, but yeah,53300:27:38.160 --> 00:27:40.319
I think that's when that's when Ledger meets a Heather53400:27:40.400 --> 00:27:43.599
Graham and they yet the moment.53500:27:43.359 --> 00:27:45.240
But then they were Yeah, they were together for for53600:27:45.319 --> 00:27:45.599
a bit.53700:27:45.799 --> 00:27:47.720
Yeah, Well, can you tell me about the background of53800:27:47.720 --> 00:27:49.440
this movie aside from aside from.53900:27:49.359 --> 00:27:53.759
All that, uh that that was pretty much okay.54000:27:54.559 --> 00:27:56.920
There really wasn't a lot that they talked about that54100:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.200
I can find with this, But then I know we54200:27:59.279 --> 00:28:06.119
already covered basically what uh inspired uh the director to54300:28:06.119 --> 00:28:09.559
to do this was was covering the six months in54400:28:09.599 --> 00:28:12.680
which Chaucer had gone missing in like thirteen seventy two.54500:28:12.759 --> 00:28:14.519
So this was his way of, Hey, this is what54600:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.799
he was doing, you know with that, you know, walking54700:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.680
around naked, owing gambling.54800:28:20.319 --> 00:28:24.440
Debts and helping a peasant rise to knighthood.54900:28:24.519 --> 00:28:28.480
So unfortunately, yeah, no, I I didn't find anything else.55000:28:28.680 --> 00:28:32.400
Unfortunately, I just so unfortunately, I just uh, I just55100:28:32.440 --> 00:28:36.079
stepped deliver your your uh your background information. I was like, oh,55200:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.240
you're good. Happy to do it like that.55300:28:38.440 --> 00:28:40.839
It's a fun I mean, it's nice to take.55400:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.240
You know, it's not necessarily you know, I mean it's55500:28:43.240 --> 00:28:45.480
it's it's based on an actual you know, writing, but55600:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.599
it is kind of cool to actually use the real55700:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.920
person who wrote it, Like, hey, what did he do55800:28:50.039 --> 00:28:54.359
in these you know, these missing months because uh, you know,55900:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.319
some some films, you know, we'll do that, you know,56000:28:57.400 --> 00:29:00.400
like take a tale, you know, like The Raven was56100:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.680
you know, like a period of like like how they56200:29:02.720 --> 00:29:03.680
think editor around.56300:29:03.519 --> 00:29:05.680
But you know, it was just a creative spin to it.56400:29:05.720 --> 00:29:06.640
But it's just fun.56500:29:07.079 --> 00:29:08.920
All right, Well, let's talk Okay, I'll tell you what.56600:29:09.000 --> 00:29:11.119
Let's take another break and then we I want to56700:29:11.160 --> 00:29:13.519
talk about the music. We got to talk about the music.56800:29:13.839 --> 00:29:20.039
We'll be right back. All right, we're back, and Angela,56900:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.119
it is time to talk about what might be one57000:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.640
of the coolest soundtracks of the two thousands for a57100:29:27.759 --> 00:29:31.319
Night's Tale. So I got I got a list here57200:29:31.400 --> 00:29:33.319
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna run down this list,57300:29:33.400 --> 00:29:35.799
this soundtrack list, and then I kind of want to57400:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.720
talk about their placement in the movie. Yeah, and I57500:29:38.799 --> 00:29:40.400
kind of want to, you know, I want I want57600:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.039
to talk it. I want to talk it through because57700:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.640
I want to hear what your favorite moment is, what57800:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.519
your favorite music note moment is. So obviously, we we57900:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.359
begin with Queen's We Were Rocky, and that sets the58000:29:52.400 --> 00:29:54.240
stage that now we know what kind of movie we're in.58100:29:54.279 --> 00:29:55.759
Now we know what kind of fun we're gonna have.58200:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.920
From there, we go to his training montage. Listen, I'm58300:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.359
a sucker for a good montage. We get a couple58400:30:03.440 --> 00:30:08.400
of them in this movie. First one Lowrider by War Yeah,58500:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.160
that one he's training in the woods.58600:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.079
Yeah that that was a crack up.58700:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.559
I was like, how about how about taking care of58800:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.160
business for the tournament montage. Now he's at the tournaments,58900:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.839
he's winning. You're you're calling the shot, right, that's the one.59000:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.599
Okay, well yeah, okay, I think that Yeah, that would fit.59100:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.920
Yeah, well okay, well give me you're so you're saying59200:30:27.920 --> 00:30:30.720
that would fit for the montage. You're not saying that's59300:30:30.759 --> 00:30:31.119
your pick.59400:30:31.400 --> 00:30:32.519
No, no, no, that's not my pick.59500:30:32.559 --> 00:30:36.079
So okay, okay, oh no, no no, I thought you59600:30:36.079 --> 00:30:41.839
had on that one. Okay, let's let's let's all right, okay,59700:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.440
could could be could be the fan favorite here, Yes,59800:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.359
Golden Years by David Boy Okay, all right, we'll put59900:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.759
that put We're gonna talk about that scene. We also got, uh,60000:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.480
this one's too good. They finally come back to London60100:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.640
for the World Championships. The boys are back in town.60200:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.759
By then Lizzie Hm, I love that song. I absolutely60300:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.599
love this song. And then obviously we get our closing credits,60400:31:06.599 --> 00:31:08.319
we get you Shook Me All Night Long by a60500:31:08.319 --> 00:31:11.079
CDC and that kind of fades into We are the Champions,60600:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.000
which I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you like60700:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.000
you gave me Queens. We were Rocky with Freddie mrcury60800:31:17.000 --> 00:31:21.039
at the beginning. Yeah, why didn't you give me? We60900:31:21.119 --> 00:31:26.079
are the Champions with Queen and Freddie Mercury to bookend it,61000:31:26.440 --> 00:31:27.680
because this is Robbi Williams.61100:31:27.759 --> 00:31:29.880
Robby Williams, Yeah, it's not even Freddy Mercury's.61200:31:29.960 --> 00:31:36.519
Yeah, Brian Heglund, come on, man, that's no one's perfect.61300:31:36.559 --> 00:31:39.119
But yeah, it's a it's the closing credits. Well, we'll61400:31:39.160 --> 00:31:43.359
forgive him Angela. I'm gonna I'm gonna assume that The61500:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.839
Golden Years by David Bowie is maybe your favorite musical moment.61600:31:47.319 --> 00:31:50.480
All right, well, can we sure? Let's let's talk about61700:31:50.480 --> 00:31:54.920
a scene because I kind of feel like maybe, no,61800:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.480
you know what, maybe we won't have the same scene61900:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.640
to talk about. But let's talk about the scene. Whether62000:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.319
you're picking this for its cinematography, it's a. It's a62100:32:03.359 --> 00:32:08.319
strong performance, it's uh, it's the pivotal moment. Is is62200:32:08.359 --> 00:32:11.480
the dance the banquet with with Bowie? Is that your62300:32:11.640 --> 00:32:12.839
Is that the scene you want to talk about or62400:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.039
is this just you want to talk you want to62500:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.640
talk about regardless, all right, let's just talk okay, just.62600:32:16.559 --> 00:32:17.200
Because of the song?62700:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.039
Yeah no, yeah, I just brought that music right, Yeah,62800:32:21.079 --> 00:32:22.880
but that's not okay.62900:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.119
So here's here's why I think it's the best musical moment.63000:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.720
It starts off, you know, he's kind of showing off,63100:32:29.240 --> 00:32:32.400
like you said, Uh, Suell's being a being a dick, Like,63200:32:32.400 --> 00:32:34.039
why don't you show us one of the dances from63300:32:37.559 --> 00:32:41.440
and he he is at Ledgers William Thatcher's kind of63400:32:41.440 --> 00:32:47.519
fumbling through his Foxy Lady though Shannon Sossoman Joscelyn, she63500:32:48.759 --> 00:32:50.559
kind of picks up the rhythm with them and they63600:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.279
find it and they they create, they create this great moment.63700:32:54.839 --> 00:32:56.880
I'm gonna put you on the spot. Yeah, I need63800:32:56.880 --> 00:33:00.640
you to, I need you tell me best damance moment63900:33:00.720 --> 00:33:03.000
where someone was supposed to be made fun of and64000:33:03.079 --> 00:33:05.880
then it turns into a massive hit. Is it this64100:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.559
or is it Ronald Miller doing the African Anteita ritual64200:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.240
and Can't Buy Me Love from nineteen eighty seven? You64300:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.920
don't remember Can't Buy Me Love where the geek buys64400:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.640
the cheerleader for like a Moneague.64500:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.960
Yeah no if I yeah, it's been a long since seen.64600:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.079
I'm so sorry for some reason, immediately I had like64700:33:24.160 --> 00:33:25.680
Napoleon died and might pop in my head.64800:33:25.759 --> 00:33:33.400
Listeners Angela, Angela's, Angela's young, She's we're gonna work okay,64900:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.799
and I don't listeners, Angela will watch that. We'll give65000:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.200
her that homework. But let us know, tell us, you know,65100:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.599
whether you're on social media, you email us. I want65200:33:41.599 --> 00:33:46.039
to know what is the better moment where a goofy65300:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.079
dance where we're supposed to make fun of the hero65400:33:48.640 --> 00:33:52.079
turns out being like the the hit moment? Is it?65500:33:52.200 --> 00:33:52.359
Is it?65600:33:52.480 --> 00:33:52.599
This?65700:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.079
Is it Nights Tale with gold with the David Bowie65800:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.759
or is it Ronald Miller's African ant eater ritual when65900:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.960
he thinks he's watching bandstand and but it becomes a66000:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.279
hit because the entire prom is doing it. So we'll66100:34:04.319 --> 00:34:06.039
move on, We'll, we'll, we'll figure that one out.66200:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.360
Angela couldn't show a dance from where he's from, because66300:34:09.400 --> 00:34:11.599
you know, you can't dance with a stick up yours?66400:34:12.119 --> 00:34:14.559
All right? So now, Angela, I think maybe we do66500:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.480
have the same scene what we won't talk about. But66600:34:16.519 --> 00:34:20.039
I'm gonna, you know, because because I I I want66700:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.719
to be nightly, I'm gonna say, ladies, first, why don't you,66800:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.440
why don't you tell me yours.66900:34:24.440 --> 00:34:25.360
Chivary is nuts?67000:34:25.440 --> 00:34:25.880
Chivalry.67100:34:27.920 --> 00:34:32.360
I love the scene where William has been arrested for67200:34:32.480 --> 00:34:36.559
falsifying his lineage, and he's there, he's he's got his67300:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.760
head and his hands in the my goodness a stockade,67400:34:39.960 --> 00:34:44.320
thank you, and you know mob suddenly you know who67500:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.599
used to cheer for him is now throwing vegetables at him.67600:34:47.599 --> 00:34:48.880
But his friends are sticking there.67700:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.400
And then this is when the print shows up to67800:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.760
speak on his behalf and silencing the crowd. And what's67900:34:55.800 --> 00:35:00.079
so great about that is because earlier we see we68000:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.679
learned that the Prince has also gone under disguise and68100:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.199
trying to go under another name, so he could fight68200:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.800
in these jousting, you know, to participate in this. But68300:35:11.920 --> 00:35:16.639
when other people know, including uh uh what's his face,68400:35:17.440 --> 00:35:25.199
Adham Art or the yeah, the dick count, he withdrawals68500:35:26.039 --> 00:35:30.719
rather than fight him or joust with him. But William decides,68600:35:30.920 --> 00:35:33.400
you know, no, he's going to fight because he feels68700:35:33.440 --> 00:35:36.679
like that's the more respectful thing to do, even though68800:35:36.760 --> 00:35:41.280
knowing uh, because you know, of given him his moment68900:35:41.440 --> 00:35:46.599
in the competition. So and then you know, they have69000:35:46.880 --> 00:35:49.519
their exchange, you know, and the prince like and you69100:35:49.559 --> 00:35:51.559
still did it even knowing this, and you know, and69200:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.360
that's still an honorable thing to do, so yes, and69300:35:54.440 --> 00:35:54.719
it is.69400:35:54.760 --> 00:35:56.800
It's the nightly thing to do. It's like, why should69500:35:56.840 --> 00:35:57.800
I make a choice, you know.69600:35:57.800 --> 00:35:59.000
For you or any you know.69700:35:59.360 --> 00:35:59.800
Uh.69800:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.559
So he treats him, you know, with that kind of69900:36:03.599 --> 00:36:07.000
respect and that honor, and that comes back into his70000:36:07.159 --> 00:36:11.760
favor when he's now being you know, booed and humiliated.70100:36:11.800 --> 00:36:15.760
His friends are sticking by him, you know, while he's70200:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.360
going through this, and the print shows up, and then70300:36:18.360 --> 00:36:24.079
that's when he properly knights him, yes, in.70400:36:23.960 --> 00:36:24.800
Front of everyone.70500:36:25.199 --> 00:36:29.800
Uh, for being a good man and displaying nightly behavior.70600:36:29.159 --> 00:36:32.480
That you know that's not something you can worn with.70700:36:33.199 --> 00:36:37.159
Yeah, well, well the title, but that character, you know70800:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.880
that that was put more ahead.70900:36:40.480 --> 00:36:41.679
Of just a title.71000:36:42.119 --> 00:36:42.480
Yeah.71100:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.039
Yeah, it doesn't mean that you can be.71200:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.000
A good person. But I absolutely love that scene.71300:36:46.440 --> 00:36:49.199
Yeah, this is this is a we didn't mention earlier,71400:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.800
but this is James Purefoy. He's now he is moving71500:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.760
through this this movie. He's kinda in disguise as I71600:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.440
think of a guy named Colville mm hmm. And then71700:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.800
people he just wants to jounst he wants to be71800:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.599
in it, and people find out like, okay, that's not71900:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.679
he says his name's Colville, but that's actually Edward the72000:37:09.719 --> 00:37:14.599
Black Prince. Yes, and then no one is going in72100:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.760
their right mind is going to strike someone of royal72200:37:17.760 --> 00:37:20.840
blood and everyone. Every time he shows up to fight72300:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.679
and people figure out who he is, they throw the72400:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.800
white flag and they they forfeit and you see, like72500:37:26.840 --> 00:37:30.400
the the disappointment on his face the first time we72600:37:30.440 --> 00:37:35.960
see this happen. And you know Thatcher, our guy, Heath Ledger,72700:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.760
he's They're like, whoa, whoa you are forfeiting? We just72800:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.360
figured out who the guy is. He's like, no, he72900:37:41.760 --> 00:37:42.320
knows the risk.73000:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.079
Yeah, and he goes here. I mean he didn't have73100:37:46.159 --> 00:37:46.639
to be there.73200:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.119
The fact that he knights him in this moment, and73300:37:51.159 --> 00:37:52.840
then you know he kind because he's kind of standing73400:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.840
up for H's like, hey, h you know, my word73500:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.480
is not to be challenged. And we found out he's73600:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.119
an ancient blood line and mm hmmm. And then he73700:38:01.159 --> 00:38:03.559
knits him right there as William Thatcher. He's no longer73800:38:03.679 --> 00:38:08.039
having to hide hunder the guys of Sir Oric Liechtenstein Lichtenstein.73900:38:09.000 --> 00:38:14.599
He's Sir William Thatcher. It's as a maybe the pivotal moment, right.74000:38:14.719 --> 00:38:17.679
Mm hmmm, yeah, yeah, definitely, just a very just a74100:38:17.719 --> 00:38:23.039
good display of character, you know, belief in oneself, the74200:38:23.119 --> 00:38:26.039
friendship you know, and your friends believe in you, and74300:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.880
what happens when what goes around does come around and74400:38:28.920 --> 00:38:29.840
those good things.74500:38:29.679 --> 00:38:33.480
Coming back when you just you put something good out people.74600:38:34.079 --> 00:38:36.519
Yes, exactly, when you just to treat people with respect74700:38:36.519 --> 00:38:39.480
and not letting the title dictate your behavior towards them,74800:38:39.519 --> 00:38:39.840
just like.74900:38:39.840 --> 00:38:42.639
You wouldn't want that, you know. For Yeah, so Angela,75000:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.000
my scene could be could be the writer in me,75100:38:46.880 --> 00:38:51.199
could could be the romantic in me. I love when75200:38:51.440 --> 00:38:55.800
everyone is working together to write this letter to Jocelyn.75300:38:56.679 --> 00:39:00.960
That is funny, yes, because it starts off comedic because75400:39:00.960 --> 00:39:06.440
you've You've, he got, you got Alan talk about our breasts, yes,75500:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.559
and then Kate's like they're not that great, like talking75600:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.159
about go go higher. He's like her neck, you know,75700:39:12.239 --> 00:39:19.000
like these are just like frat boy conversation. But Kate,75800:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.719
I love Kaate. Yeah, the blacksmith. Kate, the blacksmith who75900:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.880
is responsible for making him his badass armor. Love. Her76000:39:26.360 --> 00:39:31.880
insignia is basically the Nike swoosh. Yes, yeah, we fashion,76100:39:32.199 --> 00:39:37.440
we fashion this this very romantic letter and and it76200:39:37.519 --> 00:39:41.639
brings Jocelyn to tears. And she's like, this guy is76300:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.440
not some ruffian, he's a poet. He's you know, and76400:39:44.440 --> 00:39:45.599
she falls.76500:39:45.320 --> 00:39:48.400
For him and he can't do it in person.76600:39:48.639 --> 00:39:55.559
Yeah, in person, She's like, you know, compared, where's the76700:39:55.559 --> 00:39:58.559
poet compared me to his horse, like what are we doing?76800:39:58.800 --> 00:40:00.840
You know, it's kind of reminded me like him thour76900:40:01.000 --> 00:40:02.360
when he's like your face.77000:40:02.960 --> 00:40:03.599
I like it.77100:40:03.960 --> 00:40:07.719
I like it, Yeah, the Neanderthal kind.77200:40:08.960 --> 00:40:16.039
Yeah it could work, Angela, I'll put you, not to77300:40:16.039 --> 00:40:17.440
put I feel like I'll put you on the spot77400:40:17.480 --> 00:40:22.119
a lot. Let's let's run the numbers, because uh, yeah,77500:40:22.400 --> 00:40:24.480
I didn't. I didn't do my homework. What can you77600:40:24.480 --> 00:40:25.480
tell me about this movie?77700:40:26.159 --> 00:40:29.480
It made sixteen point five million during its opening weekend,77800:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.559
and it came in second place to The Mummy.77900:40:31.280 --> 00:40:33.239
Returns It's respect.78000:40:33.800 --> 00:40:37.760
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and then it earned fifty six point78100:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.840
six million at the North American box office and then78200:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.920
an additional almost sixty one million internationally, so we had78300:40:44.960 --> 00:40:48.199
a worldwide total of almost one hundred and eighteen for this.78400:40:48.400 --> 00:40:50.199
I looked over and missed.78500:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.400
I don't know what the budget was, but I can78600:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.199
certainly say it was not one hundred and eighteen million dollars.78700:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.320
So yeah, there's no way. I'm just I'm one ding78800:41:01.239 --> 00:41:01.960
in your opinion.78900:41:02.480 --> 00:41:02.760
M hm.79000:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.360
Now, I know, I know. Recently, I want to say,79100:41:06.599 --> 00:41:12.760
in recent years, Helgeln was hitting Netflix up for like, Hey,79200:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.400
I've got an idea for like a series on the79300:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.719
night on a Night's Tale. Is this something that could79400:41:18.760 --> 00:41:21.840
have at the time? Obviously I'm not talking about a79500:41:21.880 --> 00:41:25.119
legacy sequel now, but could we have seen something that79600:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.159
could this could a sequel to this have worked back79700:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.760
back then? Do we not or do we not need it?79800:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.320
I'm just thinking, like, it's just so fun, you know,79900:41:33.480 --> 00:41:37.719
because I clearly he wanted to get this group together80000:41:37.719 --> 00:41:40.599
because I pretty much everyone but Alan Tutik is back,80100:41:41.400 --> 00:41:44.360
you know in the order, which wasn't you know, wasn't80200:41:44.400 --> 00:41:46.679
a hit. But I don't know, like I I just80300:41:46.679 --> 00:41:48.800
wish we could have had some more time with these characters.80400:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.280
This this group is so so fun to watch, right,80500:41:52.400 --> 00:41:53.159
Yes it was.80600:41:53.199 --> 00:41:54.239
It was a lot of fun.80700:41:54.360 --> 00:42:00.719
Yeah, that's just there, just their camaraderie, their goal, but80800:42:00.760 --> 00:42:02.400
also you know, trying to like, hey, if we don't80900:42:02.400 --> 00:42:03.840
you know, you know, you could hang and all tho,81000:42:04.280 --> 00:42:05.880
you know, but they all still were just like, no,81100:42:05.960 --> 00:42:09.119
we're all willing to you know, put our necks out81200:42:09.119 --> 00:42:11.360
there because one, well we don't want to starve, because81300:42:11.360 --> 00:42:14.440
that's where we started too. Because if since there the81400:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.239
night that they were squires to you know, diet, it's like, well,81500:42:17.440 --> 00:42:21.079
we haven't eaten already in a few days what y have?81600:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.119
So it's just you know that those are the moments81700:42:24.119 --> 00:42:25.599
that you know, you really got to dig deep and81800:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.400
whe it's like, okay, you know, how can we do81900:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.400
because it you know, is that really the worst thing82000:42:30.440 --> 00:42:33.119
you could have done, just to make sure yourself is82100:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.639
taken care of and you're fed and you've got you know,82200:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.639
some some money. You know, there could have been worse82300:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.400
ways to have done that versus just yeah, you know,82400:42:42.719 --> 00:42:44.960
faking your you know, your lineage for it.82500:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.920
But this, uh, I'll tell you who got it wrong?82600:42:48.519 --> 00:42:50.360
People people talking about this movie in two thousand and82700:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.519
one Rod Tomatoes score of fifty nine.82800:42:53.159 --> 00:42:53.960
I know I saw that.82900:42:54.039 --> 00:42:55.920
Yeah, what are we doing it a little bit?83000:42:56.000 --> 00:42:56.119
Bro?83100:42:56.519 --> 00:42:58.840
Yeah, it's like you it's one of those movies where83200:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.599
you just it's not meant to be like a historical83300:43:02.320 --> 00:43:06.039
it's just part of the setting. It's just the setting83400:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.719
of it, and it's just supposed to be you know, fine, yes,83500:43:08.920 --> 00:43:11.920
we're there are a couple of things ridiculous about it, absolutely,83600:43:12.000 --> 00:43:17.159
but it was just fun for what it was, and83700:43:17.199 --> 00:43:18.880
it's good fun fluff.83800:43:19.440 --> 00:43:20.920
You know, he figured it out, you know, who got83900:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.199
it right back. And then Roger Ebert, he gave it84000:43:23.239 --> 00:43:24.159
three out of four stars.84100:43:24.199 --> 00:43:26.840
I did see that. Yeah, he actually he understood what84200:43:26.840 --> 00:43:27.079
it was.84300:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.559
Yeah, he understood the assignment, right.84400:43:31.000 --> 00:43:32.320
Yeah.84500:43:32.400 --> 00:43:34.440
I do want to mention this other little fun fact.84600:43:34.519 --> 00:43:36.440
Just you know, if if if Amber listens to this.84700:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.800
So I she's always listening. The Voice of Reason is84800:43:39.840 --> 00:43:42.400
always listening to this film.84900:43:42.440 --> 00:43:46.719
For the MTV Movie Awards, was nominated for Best Kiss85000:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.000
and the Best Musical Sequence. However, it lost the musical85100:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.480
sequence to Malonders, which you know I can't.85200:43:55.960 --> 00:43:57.840
Oh boy, yeah.85300:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.119
I know it's gonna be like our long running you85400:44:01.199 --> 00:44:06.320
asked both side story, yeah, rivalry, I guess.85500:44:06.559 --> 00:44:12.960
Yeah. Yeah, if I would have known the firestorm that85600:44:13.159 --> 00:44:14.719
moved kicked off.85700:44:16.280 --> 00:44:21.920
A house divided, Yeah, taken stride that it's it's okay.85800:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.519
I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you one one85900:44:24.599 --> 00:44:29.440
last nugget I forgot about kind of interesting. You remember86000:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.760
when this movie came out, When when A Night's Tale86100:44:32.800 --> 00:44:36.400
hit DVD in VHS. I love that I get to86200:44:36.400 --> 00:44:41.239
say that. Yeah, this was uh September twenty fifth, two86300:44:41.280 --> 00:44:41.840
thousand and one.86400:44:42.320 --> 00:44:42.679
Yeah.86500:44:42.800 --> 00:44:44.679
Yeah, so you know, and you go with this.86600:44:44.760 --> 00:44:45.000
Yeah.86700:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.880
Uh, they actually it was delayed. The video release was86800:44:49.880 --> 00:44:54.840
delayed because Sony had to remove the teaser trailer for86900:44:54.920 --> 00:44:58.079
Spider Man, you know, after the September eleventh attacks, because87000:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.000
famously they're like, we don't want to, we don't want to.87100:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.679
We're not gonna dishonor the towers. We're not gonna show87200:45:02.719 --> 00:45:06.199
the towers. Yeah. So this one actually got bumped the lease.87300:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.519
You know, they bumped a couple of days so they could, uh,87400:45:09.360 --> 00:45:13.559
they kick it out. So Angela. As we wrap things up,87500:45:14.400 --> 00:45:20.119
someone sees a Night's Tale. They love it obviously, and87600:45:20.159 --> 00:45:24.360
they say, hey, this this director Brian Helgeland. Anything you87700:45:24.400 --> 00:45:29.519
can recommend Angela, whether it's written by, directed by, or87800:45:29.559 --> 00:45:34.559
even starring Brian Helgeland, what underrated project would you suggest?87900:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.880
And before you give me your answer, I'm fifty to88000:45:37.880 --> 00:45:40.239
fifty here. Either we are going to give the same88100:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.079
answer or I'm gonna give you my answer and you're88200:45:44.079 --> 00:45:48.239
gonna be like, oh my god, I've got to see it.88300:45:48.599 --> 00:45:52.360
So again, I'm gonna be nightly ladies.88400:45:52.440 --> 00:45:57.280
First, we're excited about this one because I didn't realize88500:45:57.679 --> 00:45:59.079
he directed.88600:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.119
Legend, starring my man Tom Hardy, who no.88700:46:04.199 --> 00:46:08.039
Only plays one character, but two characters because it follows88800:46:08.079 --> 00:46:08.760
the rise and.88900:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.719
Fall of twin brother gangsters in nineteen sixties London, so.89000:46:12.719 --> 00:46:15.119
It is based on a true story. And now we89100:46:15.199 --> 00:46:18.440
all see how you know, Michael B. Jordan was amazing89200:46:18.519 --> 00:46:22.280
as twin brothers in the Sinners and but Tom Hardy89300:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.480
did it back in twenty fifteen, and they're very different.89400:46:26.320 --> 00:46:30.639
But it is a really interesting movie.89500:46:30.719 --> 00:46:31.639
And just to get to.89600:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.559
See his I mean, how he kept these all straight.89700:46:36.599 --> 00:46:40.719
But he's Tom Hardy. He's amazing. So highly recommend legend89800:46:41.159 --> 00:46:41.519
with this.89900:46:41.800 --> 00:46:42.800
I don't listen.90000:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.519
I don't think it got the attention it.90100:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.280
I I should have known better. I thought I'm gonna90200:46:49.360 --> 00:46:50.360
knock her socks off.90300:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.440
No, when I saw her, I was like, no, why90400:46:52.559 --> 00:46:53.159
have a movie?90500:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.400
Why have a movie starring Tom Hardy when you can90600:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.119
have a movie starring too Tom Hardy's Angela? She can90700:46:59.159 --> 00:47:00.639
she even handle that? I don't know.90800:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.719
It was very hard, but because the one was so90900:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.639
very different, Yes, you can hand them, Yeah, you can91000:47:07.679 --> 00:47:08.519
handle them.91100:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.119
So when you guys watch it, you understand.91200:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.159
Yeah. Yeah, Reggie, I think Reggie and Ronald, isn't it91300:47:15.199 --> 00:47:18.880
I guess? Yeah? Pretty cool movie. It's like a true91400:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.880
crime biopic about the Kray brothers. There were gangsters in91500:47:23.079 --> 00:47:29.320
uh in London, Tom Hardy, So they shoot this amazingly enough,91600:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.960
they shoot it in thirty five days. He's playing both91700:47:32.000 --> 00:47:34.920
parts in thirty five days. He basically would film like91800:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.920
whatever the call sheet had that day, whichever brother had91900:47:38.039 --> 00:47:41.440
the most dialogue is the role he would do first.92000:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.920
Then they would break. He goes back to the trailer92100:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.559
for hair and makeup so he could become the other brother.92200:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.880
That is some damn fine acting.92300:47:51.039 --> 00:47:53.920
I mean, he yeah, it is so good.92400:47:54.079 --> 00:47:57.159
Yeah, well it's you know, because we've seen plenty of92500:47:57.880 --> 00:48:01.159
movies where one actor is playing multiple parts and you know,92600:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.679
you're like you're just you're that guy, but you're that92700:48:03.719 --> 00:48:07.239
guy with a beard. Now, Ronald and Reggie Cray are92800:48:07.440 --> 00:48:11.239
very distinct personalities, and I think he nails it. He92900:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.840
knocks it out of the park. Very cool movie. Like93000:48:14.920 --> 00:48:19.280
you said, what is it twenty fifteen it came out. Yeah,93100:48:20.119 --> 00:48:25.400
if you haven't seen Brian Holgan Helgland's Legend, you know,93200:48:25.519 --> 00:48:28.599
check it out. And remember there's there's really Scott's Legend,93300:48:28.760 --> 00:48:32.480
Tom Cruise and Miasarrow about that one. Tim Curry, very93400:48:32.559 --> 00:48:37.800
very different, very different. One has one has.93500:48:36.280 --> 00:48:38.440
Party, the other has zero zero to two make.93600:48:39.239 --> 00:48:42.119
And in Angela's world, both are fantasies. I would think,93700:48:44.920 --> 00:48:49.039
all right, well, Angela, I I have to believe you're93800:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.639
You're gonna recommend a Night's Tale. Yes to our listeners.93900:48:52.920 --> 00:48:57.119
Absolutely, it's a fun adventure. Uh you know about friendship94000:48:57.239 --> 00:49:01.800
with set to a modern rock soundtrack featuring the Yeah94100:49:02.239 --> 00:49:07.079
Too Soon taken Heath Ledger, And yes, highly recommend.94200:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.480
There you can, you can? You can rent this on94300:49:10.599 --> 00:49:13.119
Apple Prime. You know all the all the streamers. I'm94400:49:13.159 --> 00:49:15.800
gonna say, go go ahead and get the Blu Ray94500:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.199
because you are treated Sony did like a theatrical cut94600:49:19.239 --> 00:49:23.920
and an extended cut. Check it out. It should be94700:49:23.960 --> 00:49:27.280
in your collection. As far as I'm concerned, next time94800:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.519
on a film by Angela, I think we're gonna stay94900:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.480
in the realm of medieval times. We're gonna talk, We're95000:49:33.480 --> 00:49:36.239
gonna we're gonna stick with knights. I don't I don't want,95100:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.880
I don't wanna tip my hand, but I don't know95200:49:38.920 --> 00:49:41.719
that we're gonna have as much love. We may not95300:49:41.760 --> 00:49:46.000
be as excited to talk about our next film. No,95400:49:47.440 --> 00:49:48.239
we will be taught.95500:49:48.840 --> 00:49:52.400
The content is I mean, yeah, the storm.95600:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.719
Which is would you guys call it in the chat95700:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.400
you labeled the chat.95800:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.880
And Joy, which actually it's it was the base it's95900:50:01.960 --> 00:50:02.920
part of the basis.96000:50:02.920 --> 00:50:04.000
It was loosely based.96100:50:04.079 --> 00:50:07.239
Yeah, it's not a Shakespeare story that it came out96200:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.320
several centuries before Julie.96300:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.159
But yeah, I labeled as yeah, the other Romeo and Juliet.96400:50:12.159 --> 00:50:14.000
But Angela, give it, give us the title.96500:50:14.000 --> 00:50:20.440
What Tristan and Tristan, James Franco and Sophia Miles and96600:50:20.519 --> 00:50:23.159
actually it also stars rufus Sewell.96700:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.679
So we're going back to back sewel but.96800:50:25.719 --> 00:50:28.119
He's yeah, but he's not but he's not a Twatt96900:50:28.119 --> 00:50:29.000
in this, So that's.97000:50:28.920 --> 00:50:33.119
Nice, okays the UK version, Sorry.97100:50:33.039 --> 00:50:35.400
That's fine, that's fine. We have we have we actually97200:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.400
have a lot of listeners in the United Kingdom. So97300:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.639
shout out to our cheers because our friends across the pond.97400:50:41.119 --> 00:50:44.079
Angela, I was born in the wrong on the wrong97500:50:44.440 --> 00:50:45.880
the wrong country, on the wrong comment.97600:50:46.000 --> 00:50:49.639
Yes, well, listeners, if you've seen Tristan and is old,97700:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.719
how would you summarize it exactly in five words?97800:50:54.320 --> 00:50:54.519
Uh?97900:50:54.599 --> 00:50:56.880
You can go to a film by podcast dot com98000:50:57.000 --> 00:50:58.840
uh hit us up, give us your answer, find us98100:50:58.840 --> 00:51:03.079
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If we mention it on upcoming show, we'll shout you98300:51:05.800 --> 00:51:07.280
out on the episode. We'll even give you some of98400:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.639
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by podcast. Our main, our main thing there, Angela. We99000:51:31.400 --> 00:51:35.000
got our little our little sisters spent off previously on99100:51:35.800 --> 00:51:38.400
where Garrett and I are discussing a lot of a99200:51:38.400 --> 00:51:40.760
lot of current shows. We're we're kind of recapping them.99300:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.880
We're giving our thoughts, we're giving our our theories, given99400:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.599
our reactions in some cases, but having a great time.99500:51:47.880 --> 00:51:51.599
On on previously on with with Garrett Gibson. Right now,99600:51:51.679 --> 00:51:55.159
we've been talking about DTF Saint Louis, which.99700:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.599
Is just had time to I haven't had time to watch.99800:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.239
I really wanted to try to know you mind, but yeah,99900:52:02.039 --> 00:52:04.079
that's why I haven't.100000:52:04.400 --> 00:52:06.679
It sounded interesting, but yeah, we're in the middle of100100:52:06.760 --> 00:52:10.679
Daredevil be Born or I'm sorry born again. We've been100200:52:10.679 --> 00:52:12.639
we've been talking on and off about Monarch and then100300:52:12.679 --> 00:52:16.159
we've got this really kooky show on Netflix, this horror100400:52:17.000 --> 00:52:19.599
mini series called something Very Bad is going to happen.100500:52:20.119 --> 00:52:25.440
So okay, Yeah, plenty of content there. We're we're on YouTube,100600:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.159
like I want to say, like three times a week now,100700:52:27.239 --> 00:52:29.440
maybe even four times a week. So if you have100800:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.400
not done so, please find us on YouTube. Hit that100900:52:32.599 --> 00:52:36.679
like button, hit that subscribe button, help us, help us grow,101000:52:36.719 --> 00:52:41.039
build us up. Yes, Angela, you, Jeff, thank you, you101100:52:41.079 --> 00:52:44.199
always build me up. It's always fun to talk talk101200:52:44.280 --> 00:52:48.079
movies with you. Yes, I'm glad that we we got101300:52:48.079 --> 00:52:51.000
to go medieval with you, you know, talk about one101400:52:51.000 --> 00:52:54.599
of your your favorites from the from two thousand and101500:52:54.639 --> 00:52:58.400
one and uh and I'm sorry that we'll be talking101600:52:58.400 --> 00:53:02.039
about one that's not so uh such a favorite of101700:53:02.039 --> 00:53:03.960
yours next time. But you know what, it's okay.101800:53:04.000 --> 00:53:05.679
I'll still find a way of you know, having fun101900:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.480
with it by just you always have fun, the jokes.102000:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.119
And the thing. Yeah, we'll be fun.102100:53:10.320 --> 00:53:12.760
I've got plenty of we'll be fair, right, we'll be fair.102200:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.840
I've got plenty of good fodder for yeah.102300:53:17.119 --> 00:53:20.639
We will. We're gonna have a good We're gonna have102400:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.239
a good time with that one regardless. All right, Well,102500:53:24.599 --> 00:53:27.519
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