April 27, 2026
Kevin Reynolds - Tristan + Isolde

NOS, Knights, and Nascar Month continues with... more knights! Amber and Angela join Jeff to discuss Kevin Reynolds' 2006 Medievel romantic tale Tristan + Isolde. Timeless love story? Incredible performances? Characters you can cheer for? Not so...
NOS, Knights, and Nascar Month continues with... more knights!
Amber and Angela join Jeff to discuss Kevin Reynolds' 2006 Medievel romantic tale Tristan + Isolde. Timeless love story? Incredible performances? Characters you can cheer for? Not so much!
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Amber and Angela join Jeff to discuss Kevin Reynolds' 2006 Medievel romantic tale Tristan + Isolde. Timeless love story? Incredible performances? Characters you can cheer for? Not so much!
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Well we are back. We have been discussing nas nights
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and we'll soon be discussing Nascar, but today we're back
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to Knights. So let's talk about a film by Kevin Reynolds,
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his two thousand and six medieval romantic drama Tristan and
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he's old. Hey everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson.
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I'm Amber Lewis, I'm Angela Norris.
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And this is a film by podcast ladies. It is
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good to see you again. You you were enjoying some
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a little bit of time off after taking on the
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month of March. Uh. You know you guys immediately though
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that you were like, you know what, fast and the
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Furious is not really for me. So I was like, okay,
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that's that's fine, Angela. You know we had fun talking
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about a Night's Tale. Yes, that was a good episode.
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That that was a lot of fun.
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Yes, yeah, Amber, I I'm not ready to watch horror
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films yet, but you and Brad have kind of horror films. Well,
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it is always a good time to watch horror films.
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But you know, you and Brad have forced my hand
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with that episode last week. I'm talking about our limited series,
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A script by you joined Brad to discuss a script
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by Jordan Peel for his movie get Out, and that
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was it was a tree. I thank you. I'm glad
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glad that you were you were the one because I
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know you're a big fan of that movie.
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Yes, I love Jordan Peel and love that film in particular,
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So it was it was.
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A good time.
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You and Brad should do more. You should, you should
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be There should be a couple more Brad Amber episodes.
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I think I thought the chemistry was really good.
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You guys did great, okod, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
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Yeah, Angela, I know we had a good time on
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Night's Tale, but I really enjoyed our conversation. On Patreon
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last weekend we did an episode on two thousand and
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one's in the Bedroom, which, Yes, great.
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Films, such a good such a good film.
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Great conversation listeners. If you're not subscribing to our Patreon already,
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members pretty nice. Now we've talked about Kevin Reynolds before.
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I'm happy to say, I don't know how happy I
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am to talk about him today, but there's very there's
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very little available about Reynolds, and we covered most of
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it when we did his background on the first Kevin
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Reynolds episode. Back, I want to say, back in season two,
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when Brad and I discussed his nineteen eighty eight film
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The Beast, which was actually a listener recommended that, like
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that was we were like, I wonder what we're gonna do,
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and one of our listeners, one of you guys out there,
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said hey, I would love to hear about this Kevin
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Reynolds movie called The Beast, and I was like, Kevin,
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it's Robinhood, Prince of Thieves. I've never heard the Beast.
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Beast is an amazing movie, really good Jason Patrick, I
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definitely would recommend it, but you know, go back check
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that episode out. Anyways, I'll give you these three facts.
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Kevin Reynolds a Texas lawyer turned screenwriter. His big break
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came when he wrote the script for my all time
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favorite war film, talking about nineteen eighty four's Red Dawn.
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And I'm watching Tristan and as Old and there is
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a scene that is very reminiscent of Red Dawn. And
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we'll touch on that here in a minute, But moving
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on his twenty sixteen film Risen. Did either of you
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see that one?
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I don't think so.
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No, No, Amber shaking her head. It was originally titled
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The Resurrection of Jesus Christ and was intended to be
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the unofficial sequel to the Passion of the Christ. Which
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is interesting because right now, the official sequel to that
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movie is currently underway with director Mel Gibson, and it's
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titled The Resurrection of the Christ and it is scheduled
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for release on Good Friday, March twenty sixth, twenty twenty seven.
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So I don't know if we want to if you
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want to watch Risen before you get to the official sequel, But.
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I mean to be honest, after this, I am never
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watching Kevin Smithy.
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She stepped out because he's done some good stuff though.
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No, he's done two movies that Kevin Costner took over,
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and those are two movies I will watch.
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But the rest I'm like, no, I would. I would
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implore you to watch The Beast. It is such a
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good now And what do you mean.
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No, I don't know Kevin Coser takeover and direct it.
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Kevin Costner has nothing to do with it, and I'm out, Okay,
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well you know what? You know what? Amber, That's a
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nice segue to a third fact that I have. Kevin Reynolds.
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His birthday is one day before Kevin Costner's. And I
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mentioned it because Amber mentions it. Because these two were
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longtime collaborators and friends, having worked together on Fandango, Robin Hood,
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Prince of Thieves, Dances with Wolves, and The Hatfields and
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The McCoy's which he was nominated for. I want to
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say an Emmy. They did have a falling out during
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production of water World.
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Imagine that Reynolds.
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Reynolds left the production over creative differences. And interesting quote
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from Kevin Reynolds when you ask him about working with
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Kevin Costner. He is quoted as saying, Kevin Costner should
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only act in movies he directs. That way he can
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work with his favorite actor and director.
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That's the quote I had pulled just in case.
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Throw in some shade at Kevin cost Okay, look I gotta,
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I gotta.
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I mean, I'm sorry. Kevin Costner saved hiss ass.
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So I say, Amber, we have Listen, we have Kevin
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Costner because of Kevin Reynolds. You have to remember, it
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was Kevin Reynolds student film UH in school called Proof
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That It that it goes on to become the movie Fandango,
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which Spinberg, you know, UH produces, and there was in
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a then unknown Kevin Costner, and that's where these guys
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you know, initially started their their work together. So they did,
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by the way, Amber, I don't know if they're I
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don't know how friendly they are now, but they did reconnect, uh,
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just a little while ago, they did this really nice
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Robin Hood Prince of Thieves blu Ray, like a four
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K restiration they did. They did an audio commentary for it, though,
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so they were able to get them together to do
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the audio commentary for that. So you know, you know,
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I haven't heard I haven't heard it, and now I've
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got to hear it because like, you know, like are
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they you know, are there bar passive?
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Aggressive?
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Is it passive? Are they frenemies as a talk or
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is it one of those or maybe it's one of
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those those audio commentaries where it's like and now Kevin Costner,
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where they didn't get you can tell. Yeah, I can't
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stand those types of audio commentaries when it's like audio
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commentary by these three people and it's like they're all
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three like in different places. Just you know what, give
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me three separate audio commentaries if you're gonna do that.
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Yeah, Like, don't don't pretend that they're all together.
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Pretend and don't don't create a conversation. Just just yeah,
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the five word synopsis. All season long, we've been covering blockbusters.
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We've been celebrating the anniversaries, the the twentieth and twenty
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fifth anniversaries of movies from two thousand and one to
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two thousand and six. So we're not doing these these
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deep dive descriptions. Angela, tell me what Tristan and is
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Old is all about? Using exactly five words with.
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This one, Young Love doomed by treason.
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That works, That absolutely works. Amber. Uh, do you want
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you want to go? You want to give you one?
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Give you mine?
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I mean, I just threw this together because I'm in
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such denial over the five word synopsis that I didn't
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do one for this one.
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She hates the second, but I did it.
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Mind's almost like Angela's Doomed Lovers share forbidden passion.
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Okay. That's uh, that's interesting because and and good. I mean,
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you just shot from the hit with that that I
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could hear that description. I could, I could wonder if
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that's Romeo and Juliet, you know, shout out to shout
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out to Amber Lewis, who who did our Romeo and
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Juliet episode for our nineteen ninety six series what still
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our most downloaded episode of all time. That it's amazing. Yeah,
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it's amazing.
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It was fun to do though.
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So yeah. I so we've got we've got doomed you know,
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doomed lovers, and Angela you had what what? What was
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your description of other lovers?
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It was young love, dune by Young Love.
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Okay, young love, doomed Glovers. I think we're all on
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the same page here. My five words synopsis if anyone
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asked me about this movie, Dishonest Lovers Destroy Fledgling Kingdom.
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See, I kind of thought about that, but like the
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story is too lame, so I didn't feel like I
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could have such a like fiery, impassioned synopsis.
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Firing and the voice of reasons. I've got the voice.
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I've got a typical angela.
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Your synopsis makes people think like it's going.
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To be exciting, and they would be so disappointed.
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And they and to be fair, I mean, they didn't know.
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So they may think that it's exciting and great, but
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I think over the next no, they don't.
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All you have to do is watch their love scene.
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They well, yeah, I'm just I'm just I'm just saying
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people that think we're gonna we're about to write a
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love letter to Kevin Reynolds, there for a surprise, because
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I don't know how much we're gonna enjoy this one.
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But let's just let's just let's just be honest. Let's
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just let's just put it out there.
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I mean, it's just, yeah, I think that Amish community
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has had hotter triists than this.
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All right, Well, here's the thing. This movie has amazing cinematography,
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a wonderful score from hold On, let me let me
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talk Amber, just let me let me do a thing.
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It has. It has amazing cinematography.
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You can just get rid of the adjectives.
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Has a score Amber, just just before I m I'm gonna,
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I'm gonna mute her mic. This movie has amazing cinematography,
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a wonderful score from composer Anne Dudley, who gives a
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very dark and somber Celtic inspired score. It's got some
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talented actors, and yet it absolutely does not work. We
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need to discuss why we're gonna do that right after
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this break, and we might even talk about Angela's trists
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and an Amish country when we get When we get back,
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welcome back, we are talking about Kevin Reynolds two thousand
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and six medieval romantic drama that just doesn't work. Tristan
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and is Old. Here's my thought. Okay, the film doesn't
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work because we have no one to follow. Your two
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main characters are scheming adulterers who willfully betray the trust
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of a good man who loves and respects them. Amber,
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Am I right? Or is there more to it?
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Well?
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I think there's a little more to it because this
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is basically the King Arthur story. And if you watch
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like ex Caliber, which is awesome, that movie's awesome, and
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the romance is intense, and they're doing all the wrong things,
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but you're engaged, like you're involved in this, you know,
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and with this, like I mean, nobody cares, Like it
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just doesn't even matter. Nobody cares. And they don't even make,
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you know, rufus Sewell into like a really good king
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because they had he threw in like all these scenes
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of non conceptual sex between him and his soul.
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So that's just disgusting.
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So you don't even get to like the king because
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like that's gross, Like I need.
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To see that.
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Okay, So rufus Seule, like, I mean.
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I feel like he and Thomas Brady Sanger are the
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only ones that like showed up to like work in
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Like everybody else it was.
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Wait, what about what about Henry Cavill.
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Oh please, I mean he's cute and all, but he
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was just a little side piece like that. He's actually
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chewing gum in one scene, so there's that.
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Sure, I didn't, I swear.
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To god watch it again.
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His opening scene, he is chomping on a big old
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piece of gum. But not only everybody in this movie.
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