March 23, 2025

Barry Levinson - Young Sherlock Holmes

Barry Levinson - Young Sherlock Holmes
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Season 6 A Film By...

Jeff, Amber, and David team up to celebrate the 40th anniversary of Barry Levinson's unique take on Sherlock Holmes' early years, which offers audiences an exciting, action-packed ride filled with hidden clues, supernatural elements, and a fresh look at the beloved characters. The game is afoot with Young Sherlock Holmes!

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There are two well known catchphrases associated with Sherlock Holmes.

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Dave, can you give me one?

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The game is a foot Amber?

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How about the other one?

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Elementary, My dear Watson.

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Amber, I like that you you you chose that one,

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you know, being the teacher, it kind of fits. But

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what did surprised you to know that neither originates with

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the works of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

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No, because I know where the one comes from.

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Okay, well, okay, Amber, I'm sure you're talking about the

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game as a foot. Yes, tell us where it comes from.

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It comes from, uh, Henry the Fifth, from the once

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more into the breach, dear friends, speech, I see you

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stand like greyhounds in the slips, straining upon the start.

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The game is afoot, follow your spirit and upon this

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charge cry God for Harry England and Saint George.

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Well done, Amber, and then they take.

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Down the castle. It's amazing.

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Okay, all right, Amber's clearly ready for any Henry the

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Fifth adaptationally.

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Easy, like an all girl cast.

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Dave flip flipping the flip of the tables here because

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she took a game as a foot, Dave, Elementary, my

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dear Watson never written in Doyle's four novels or fifteen

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short stories.

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So where do they come from? Then?

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The phrase is often credited to stage actor William Gillette,

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who played Holmes in eighteen ninety nine and gave the line,

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oh this is elementary, my dear Watson. So that's that's

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who's credited by it.

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Sir Arthur Conan. Doyle never once wrote that.

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Which he didn't write this either, so fitting.

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It's all fitting like where a dear stocker either?

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So yeah, so I'll tell tell you what.

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Let's talk about a film by Barry levitson his nineteen

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eighty five unbelievably underrated film Young Sherlock Holmes.

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Hello, and welcome back.

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I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm David Burns, and I'm Member Lewis.

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And this is a film by podcast. Kind of excited.

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Uh, sometimes you have everything planned, sometimes you know exactly

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which episode we're going to cover, and then you know

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delays happened or someone's having to change your schedule up

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and we gotta we gotta pivot. And I was kind

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of surprised, you know, I was. I was between this

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and a Soderberg film actually, and I was like, you

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know what, Young Sherlock Holmes is celebrating its fortieth anniversary,

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and Barry Levinson has a new movie coming out this week,

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The Alter Nights with Robert de Niro.

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And Amber. We had just talked about Robert de Niro

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on the Intern episode, so like the stars were all aligning.

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Dave, you had been after me about young Sherlock Holmes

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for a while.

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I have.

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I've thought at you too, and you both were like, yes,

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let's do it tomorrow.

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I was like, yeah, my leg getting that's right.

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These guys are ready and it's such it's such a

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beloved film. But before we get into it, I do

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want to talk a little bit about Barry Levinson. I'm

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excited actually when we get to the our suggestions, you

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know what three films we'd suggest. He's got such an

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impressive body of work. I struggled and I was like, well,

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you know what, I wonder if Dave will mention this movie,

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or I wonder if Amber is going to be all

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in on this movie. Maybe I won't have to talk

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about it because they will. So I'm excited to see

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how that's going to shake out. But tell you what

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three facts about Barry Levinson. He's a bit of a

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Beatles fan.

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He once met and interviewed the late John Lennon in

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New York City in nineteen eighty. Pretty impressive.

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It is pretty impressive.

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Yeah, his films often take place in the past. I

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don't know if you noticed this, and we'll probably talk

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about this later when we talk about his phomography a

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little bit. But when you think about his movies, they

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all share something in common. They're historical or their period pieces.

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And I you know, he's not the only director that

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does this, but he's one of the better ones.

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I will say that the track up my alley, So

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I know, yeah, Dave, I know you.

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I know you love directors that do this kind of thing.

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One more fun.

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Fact for you, he frequently works with Robin Williams and

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Dustin Hoffman. Again, he likes his period pieces, his historical stuff.

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He likes Robin Williams, he likes Dustin Hoffman.

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Dave, after the successful limited series A Film at forty

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five came to its end, I had to steal something

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from from you. You know, I love that you guys

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always quoted. I love that you guys always quoted the director.

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So I was like, you know, why don't you just

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do that on the main show.

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I can steal it because like technically it's it's the

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same show, so it is. Yeah, yeah, how about but

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you know what, how about how about how about you

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give us a quote?

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Did you find a Barry Levitson quote for us?

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I did? And he he basically is talking about filmmaking

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in general. He says, it gets harder and harder to

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make movies about human beings. These movies are like an

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endangered species. Everything is simplified, simplified. Now, how many movies

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have subplots anymore?

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That's interesting because now that I think about, and I'm

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assuming he saw with movies in like the last twenty

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years or the last thirty years, Yeah, they have dumbed

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down quite a bit.

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Would you agree to that, Nimber?

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Yeah, I mean it's it's a lot of you know,

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comic book heroes and dinosaurs and things like that, which

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are all all great and all fun, but they are

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You just gotta hold your breath until Nolan makes another

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movie and then balance is restored to the universe.

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Yes, thank you, TikTok generation You've done so much for us.

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David I said, this was just unbelievably underrated.

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It is.

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And right, we were.

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Talking about that last night as we were all doing

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our rewrotch. Yes, yeah, like how just incredibly slept on

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this movie is?

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Yeah, I have to believe and listen, there's some great

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eight Sherlock Holmes movies out there, right, And I'm not

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talking just about recently, you know. I'm talking about you know,

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like one hundred years ago Basil Rathbone, like all the

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movies that he did right right up until recent times

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where we've got Artie j you know, having having a

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lot of fun with the character.

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Did you guys watch Sherlock on the BBC? Oh? Yeah, okay,

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so you've seen that one. That one's fantastic.

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Yep, absolutely loved it.

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And but who's your who's your favorite performer for Sherlock Holmes.

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I'm partial, Jeremy Brett is the best. But I'm partial

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to the Basisl Wrathbone movies because that's how I first

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was introduced to the character. My dad loved those movies,

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so we would watch that a lot.

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How about you, David, I'm gonna have to go with

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Basil Rathbone because he's such a classic actor. I have

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to go with him. Now, there are plenty of other

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actors who have done an incredible job at Sherlock Holmes,

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but I don't always go to him for some reason.

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I think it's because I saw a lot of reruns

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of him back in the eighties, and I think that's

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how I got attached to him as an actor playing Holmes.

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I gotta be honest.

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I know it's not a movie, it's a TV show,

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but I think I think Bennett Cumberbatch might be one

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of my favorites.

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H He's definitely more much fun.

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He was so much fun. Yeah, and I definitely like

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him more than Robert Downey Junior. But I like Robert

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Donnell Junior too, so I digress, Dave. I have to

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believe that of all the Sherlock Holmes movies out there,

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there's probably a lot of our listeners that maybe aren't

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familiar with this one from nineteen eighty five, which is

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also celebrating its fortieth anniversary. Can you give us a

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little synopsis to young Sherlock Holmes.

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The game is afoot in the adventure of a lifetime.

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It is in the early days of Sherlock Holmes, who

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meets his life long friend Watson for the first time

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at an English boarding school, Holmes quickly impresses his fellow

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classmates and teachers on his skills of deductive ability. It

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isn't long until he his new friend Watson and companion

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Elizabeth quickly in coover a plot by an Egyptian cult

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to kill British men in high standing. This puts in

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motion not only Holmes's first mystery to unravel, but also

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starts his famous future of becoming one of the most

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incredible investigators known to the world.

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Guys, we have a debut in this film, and I

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was quite surprised when I uncovered who it was.

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And he guesses, I want to see Alan Cox. But

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I could be wrong.

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You could be an r Amber.

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I don't know. I kind of thought maybe all the

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kids were were making their debut.

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So trick question.

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It's not a film, it's it's not an actor's debut,

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it's a producer's debut. This is the first film produced

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by Henry Winkler.

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Ye, how amazing is that?

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That's what makes it so good?

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You were going to st aren't we meeting him in

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a couple couple of weeks.

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We are, Oh my goodness, a happy day reunion.

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Yeah, we.

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Have the best comic this year.

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It's great.

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So everyone week, everyone's gonna be in line talking to

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him about Phonsie, and I'm going to walk up and

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be like, let's talk about your involvement with young Sherlock Holmes.

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Why not?

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Yeah, Yeah, he's gonna be He might be like, hey,

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I'm thank you.

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I'd like to talk about something that that's that's not Fonzie.

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Or Scream or Scream as we know.

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This is based on the works of Sir Arthur Cornan Doyle.

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The story is an original by Chris Columbus, who at

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the time admitted that he was very worried about offending

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some of the Holmes purists. I completely forgot Chris Columbus

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was even involved with this. But when you watch it,

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I mean you can clearly see it right.

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The movie that Sorcerers Stone wanted to be.

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Okay, okay, is it too early, because uh, I got

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something about that. But Amber you just said so, so

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you know what I'm talking about. No, I'm ready to

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do it now, let's just jump into it. So let's

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go ahead. Let's just let's just jump in and do it.

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I want to discuss JK. Rowling's thievery because this movie.

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It's just a Harry Potter blueprint if there ever was one.

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But but Amber you you clearly agree because you brought

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it up. I thought I was gonna stun you, Dave.

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You're a huge Harry Potter fan.

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You see it, right, I mean with the boarding school,

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everything that's going on within the school, and I thought

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the the mystery behind things as you called, Yeah.

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You guys are two of the biggest fans of Harry Potter.

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I thought I was going to have to, you know,

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convince you. But but I'm glad that we're all on

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the same team here.

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But for anyone listening.

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Who's like, what what is sent to a special school

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far from his home? And by the way, Watson is

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Harry Potter. I sent the picture to you guys. So

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the screen grab, the hair, the glasses, the scarf.

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He's like twelve years old.

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It's it's everything, right. All these kids are wearing matching scarves.

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The school bully or the nemesis happens to be a

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wealthy kid with his blonde hair extremely parted. And oh,

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by the way, his name is Doyle, So that you know,

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there's that's a two for as far as I'm concerned.

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All three of these heroes.

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We got two boys, one's confident, one's bumbling, and a

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studious girl that's cruised to solving the mystery.

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That sounds familiar. How about the character names in this movie?

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How many Bentley, Bobsters and Cragwitches are running around the

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streets of London.

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I wonder at a favorite.

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his vision and he's like, your name is Krabby Kritcherwitch.

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You can't get it's so funny.

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Yeah, you just you can't tell me that. JK.

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Rowling, who was twenty years old when this movie came out,

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wasn't heavily influenced by it when she created Harry Potter

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ten years later, you know. And the thing is, she

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claims Harry Potter came from bedtime stories that she made

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up to tell her kids.

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That's a bunch of bullshit, because that's you know, she

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didn't tell him bedtime story.

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you know called it a night.

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That's That's where I'm at with it.

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each other and play both movies like Sorcerer's Stone and

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a comparison, because I think they would align spectacularly.

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you know, there's there's there's there's another homage happening. There's

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another bit of influencing happening. And if JK is stealing

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from this, this movie might be borrowing heavily from another movie,

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which I'm gonna save that one until we get to

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noteworthy scenes.

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But watching I was like.

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Seriously? So we'll get to that. So back to Chris Columbus.

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He's got a great working relationship with Steven Spielberg, who's

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executive producing this movie after their partnership on Grimlins in

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nineteen eighty four. He's also got Young Sherlock Holmes's a

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pretty big year for Chris Columbus. In nineteen eighty five,

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speaking about the character and his take on Holmes, Columbus said,

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the thing that was most important to me was why

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Holmes became so cold and calculating and why he was

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alone for the rest of his life. That's why he's

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so emotional in the film. As a youngster, he was

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He fell in love with the love.

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Of his life, and as a result of what happens

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in this film, he becomes the person he was later.

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to explain some of the things about Holmes's life and

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his beliefs. I really liked that about this movie.

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Last Crusade, you know, where they're like ticking all the boxes.

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You know, this is how he got the hat and

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this is how he got the pipe. Yeah, but they

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do it in such an interesting way by making him

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a different character than he is later in his life,

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that you don't really notice that it's happening.

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One other person I want to talk about behind the scenes.

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Bruce Broughton composed the film score. Now I hear his name,

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I think a movie is like the Ice Pirates and

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the Monster Squad.

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But this one's probably my favorite. David your thoughts.

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I mean, he's just coming off scoring Silverado, so to me,

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this is his best score of everything he's done in

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his career, and he's done a lot of stuff. Oh

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but there's just so much to this he has, says,

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a magnificent blend of like intrigue, romance, high adventure, terror,

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and the fact that he gives that like nineteenth century

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British romance tone to all of it as well at

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the same time just really makes it unique and one

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of the things I love. And Jerry Goldsmith did this too.

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Jerry Goldsmith always put those unique sounds into his music.

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Broughton used that like rattling sound effect that you hear emily,

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like shuffling boots on a stage floor. You know, you

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hear that throughout some of this, especially at the beginning

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and towards the end. Not to mention all that temple

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of doom chanting. Oh my goodness, oh.

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Man, how how terrified were you as a as a

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child watching this and hearing the romy tep chant I mean, you.

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Just know nothing good can come from this, no wrow

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Like nothing good is happening in the Spear like at.

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All Well, a little treat for you guys and for

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our listeners. We were able to get our good friend

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co host Wayne whiteed back for another of his scoring sessions.

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Here's what Wayne.

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Has to say about Bruce Broughton, Take it away, Wayne.

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Nineteen eighty five was a great year for film scores.

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Alan Silverstree gave us the rousing score to Back to

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the Future, Dave Greskin brought us excitement to the Goonies,

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and Jerry Goldsmith went into action with Amble First Blood

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Part two. Sitting alongside these masterpieces of music was forty

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year old Bruce Broughton. He was no stranger to creating

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exciting family film scores. By nineteen eighty five, he had

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become one of Hollywood's busiest composers and what Broughton was

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mostly known at the time as a prolific television composer,

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having worked on series like Hawaifi, Logan's Run, Dallas, Muckrodgers

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in the Twenty fifth Century, and many more. In nineteen

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eighty five, he had just completed the music for a

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film that would bring him an Academy Award nomination the

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following year, Silverado. Young Cherlock Holmes would be only his

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fourth feature film score of his career, but would be

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the score that he would be most remembered for and

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one of his biggest successes. Written for a large symphony

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orchestra and choir, recorded with a Symphonia of London Orchestra,

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the score is a masterpiece of the genre. It is

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a wonderful score from beginning to end, richly orchestrated, featuring

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at least five memorable themes, full of fun and adventure

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and whimsy with each note and chord. The whole score

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is full of incredible pieces that's hard to choose just

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which ones are my favorite. To start off, the main

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title introduces the sweeping theme for Young Sherlock Holmes. This

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is his intellectual theme which also has a real sense

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of playfulness and whimsy. The theme starts out played on

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a piccolo. It eventually gets taken up by the full orchestra,

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augmented by magical chimes and swooping flute accents. It is

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here where we first hear a musical technique used throughout

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the film called the cole legno, which is when the

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string players tap the cases of their instruments with the

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back of their bows to create an unsettling rattling effect.

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Next up is Watson's Arrival, which introduces another theme heard

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throughout the film, a theme of friendship, introduced here as

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a duet for cello and obo. One of the more

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powerful pieces of the score is titled Waxing Elizabeth. While

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it's funny to note that the choir is singing nonsense words,

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the sheer orchestral might of these performances is so incredibly

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powerful it'll knock you right out of the chair. Then

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there's a short piece called Second Attempt, which I have

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to point out it's one of my favorite cues of

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his score, where Broughton shows off his unique playful style,

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fun woodwinds and strings riffing their own themes in a

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lovely and creative way. Finally, I'd be crazy if I

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didn't point out the master works of the final two

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cues of the score, the Riddles Solved and end Credits.

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It starts off with a beautiful performance of the love

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theme before moving right into the rolling credits, where Broughton

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brings out all of his themes one last time for

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the full orchestra to bring the film to an exuberant end.

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This is a showstopper for sure, one of Broughton's finest

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works and one of the best film scores to come

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out in the nineteen eighties. Since Young Sherlock Holmes, Bruce

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Broughton has continued to bring his unique style of film

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and television music from movies like The Monster Squad, Harry

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and the Henderson's the Rescuers, Down Under Tombstone and even

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Lost in Space, and to TV series like Amazing Stories,

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Tiny Toon Adventures, JAG and more recently with The Orville.

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Like John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith, Bruce Broughton is one

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of those composers with very dis distinct musical fingerprint, a

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unique sound that within just a few seconds of listening

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to one of his scores, I can tell it's his work.

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Over the years, I picked up many of his CDs

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just basically solely on the fact that it's his music.

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Even if I've never seen the film before, I know

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that I'm in for a great listen. The score to

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Young Sherlock Holmes has had an interesting release history. In

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nineteen eighty five, with the release of the film, MCA

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Records brought out a very short ten track album on

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both LP record and cassette, containing only a small sampling

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of the music brought and wrote for the film. It

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wasn't until two thousand and two before the score would

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be seen again, this time nearly complete and an extremely

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limited CD released by Introta Records. This edition was never

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put up for sale and only printed for promotional use

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only by composer Bruce Broughton himself, making it nearly impossible

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for collectors and fans to get their hands on without

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paying an incredible sum of money on the auction sites

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unless you knew the composer personal. Finally, in twenty fourteen,

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and Trotter release it again, this time unlimited and for

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sale to the general public, with the entire complete score

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on two CDs and with sixteen minutes of alternates and

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excerpts never before available. And Troda again re released the

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score in twenty nineteen, this time as a three D

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CD set containing the complete score with alternate source cues

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and the original nineteen eighty five album remastered. This version

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is currently on aval for sale, but we'll be back

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in the near future. Once in Trotte is able to

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repress more copies, so if you're looking to own one

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of Bruce Broughton's most energetic and exciting scores that is

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guaranteed to put a smile on your face. Keep an

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eye out for it to be restocked and get yourself

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a copy, and while you're waiting, check out some of

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his other scores that are available. You won't regret it

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for a second.

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David, gotta be honest, it's I think it's time to

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maybe pull Wayne off of Phasers just a little bit so.

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He could do more of these scoring sessions for our

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main show.

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He does such an excellent job and.

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They're so good. I get so excited when he's on.

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Yeah, people want more of it, so I love it

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when he wants to do it.

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Sure, Yeah, absolutely. I'll tell you what.

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Let's take a quick break and when we come back,

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we will talk about this amazing cast.

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Welcome back.

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We are talking about Barry Levinson Young Sherlock Holmes, which

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is celebrating its fortieth anniversary this year, Nicholas Rowe playing

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the title character Young Sherlock Holmes.

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Dave, it's probably been a good fifteen years since I've

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watched this. Yeah, I'm looking at him like I know

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I know him. I know I know him. It's the

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lawyer from Seed of Chucky.

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It is yeah.

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Yeah. Other than that, I don't know where this man's been.

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See. I had a similar thing, but it was watching

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The Crown.

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He always in The Crown.

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He shows up as I think one of the prime ministers.

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He works in Parliament somewhere as a pretty significant role.

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I'm sure all the British listeners are like Jesus, he's

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playing this guy. But I'm not familiar with the gentleman

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he was playing. But I was very excited when he

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came on screen.

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I was like, hey, Charlotte, I think this is a

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case with this cast. It's a lot of British actors,

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so they've got they've got a pretty impressive filmography with

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film and television.

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It's just I've never seen any of it.

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it makes sense.

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I will I will say this though, uh Nicholas Rowe.

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With all apologies and respect to Robert Downey Junior, this

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is my second favorite Sherlock. I love I love, I

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love what he's doing and I know he's like what

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sixteen d.

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They caught him. I would be willing to bet that

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the year before they made this movie. He was like

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five foot two and had like a super grosspert because

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he's so gangly and like kind of awkward, like he

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doesn't know how to move being that tall yet, and

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it's just so charming.

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I didn't see it in his hormography, but I think

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one of the biggest mistakes.

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Is that he never played Ichabod Crane.

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Oh that'd be perfect.

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Would he have been a great Ichabod?

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He would have.

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He did show up. It's Sherlock again, though, did he?

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In the movie Mister Holmes with Ian McKellen. Ian McKellen

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is playing Sherlock Holmes, okay, and he's watching a movie

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about Charlock Holmes and Nicholas Rowe plays the Sharlocke Combs

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00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:12.799
in the movie.

477
00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:16.519
Oh Cod, that's kind of meta. That's kind of cool, right, yeah,

478
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:17.279
kind of.

479
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.880
You miss it kind of thing, but I like that.

480
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:23.680
Yeah, Dave, you may have had this in your notes,

481
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:25.519
but if you and I apologize if I'm stealing it.

482
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:28.000
But you know, since since Wayne joined us briefly, I

483
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.880
will say the one thing I did see about a

484
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:35.160
lot of these casts members, they have all had.

485
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:36.319
A foot in the Doctor Who.

486
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:41.319
Oh yeah, whether it's TV or podcasts or podcast series

487
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:44.519
or movies. It's you know, pretty much all of them

488
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:46.200
had some kind of Doctor Who thing happened.

489
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.319
But I mean it's it's a British thing in Doctor

490
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.039
Who's gigantic over there, like huge comedian's over here too.

491
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.480
It's a global thing now, but you know, back around

492
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:59.200
this time, you know, seventies eighties, it was more focused

493
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.119
in the British side of it until PBS started playing

494
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:03.720
it over here. So it makes sense that a lot

495
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.319
of these actors are were involved with Doctor Who.

496
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:13.000
Alan Cox, the son of Brian Cox, is here playing

497
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:19.079
Harry No, sorry, John Watson, not Harry Potter.

498
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:20.839
No, Alan Cox.

499
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.680
Is here looking exactly like Harry Potter, but playing John Watson.

500
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:26.000
Again.

501
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.759
A fantastic performance from a young individual. And I'm looking

502
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.480
at his filmography and I just I know I've seen

503
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.599
him in one thing, Dave, but I don't remember it

504
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.039
at all. He was in the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles

505
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:40.960
in ninety two.

506
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:44.200
Yeah, Spielberg connected there. That's why.

507
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:47.640
I don't know if you looked at I know I've

508
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:49.920
seen the episode, but it might be one of the

509
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:51.279
most boring episodes they ever did.

510
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:54.240
Indie.

511
00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:58.359
I looked at the I looked at the synopsis for

512
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:00.000
the episode, and even it almost put me to slip.

513
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.640
But basically, Indy spots that there's a mistake in a

514
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:08.519
painting in France and it's about the Bolsheviks. And turns

515
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:13.880
out Indy, you know, Dimitri, who is Alan Cox, I guess,

516
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.680
invites him to hear a speech from Lennon and then

517
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.519
they starts the It hints at the revolution.

518
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.519
Or just whatever. There's no action in it at all.

519
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.599
It's just about a painting in France, you know.

520
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.440
Speaking speaking of Watson, and I know we're talking about

521
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:30.079
the cast here, we're not really talking about the film

522
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.039
itself yet. But what I love about this film is

523
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.559
the fact that, yeah, it's called Young Charlock Holmes and

524
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:39.079
it's about Holmes, but this is actually Watson's story, you know.

525
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:42.720
It's it's him narrating this, him finding and discovering the

526
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:46.720
friend Sherlock Holmes. So I find that very interesting and

527
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.119
intriguing of a story that they went that route. And

528
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.079
I love that they went that route, I really do.

529
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:56.160
I do love the narrator, the older Watson, who amber

530
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.000
here the Disney expert, at least on our show.

531
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:03.200
Is this the guy that's Is this the guy that

532
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.680
does the voice for for Winnie the Pooh or am

533
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:06.759
I just assuming that?

534
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:07.119
No?

535
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:09.400
You can you can see how to make that connection

536
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.759
though he's this guy's got such a.

537
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.839
Yeah, no, he's he is a voice, great British actor.

538
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:20.680
He's been in like a million things. My favorite thing

539
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.799
is he uh is the King and the Slipper in

540
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.160
the Rose It's a musical version of Cinderella and he

541
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:32.319
is completely hilarious in it. But he did you know,

542
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.000
He's done Barry Lindon, he did a Christmas Carol, he

543
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:39.160
did Watership Down. He was one of the voices.

544
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:41.920
That's where I know his voice down Dave, I know,

545
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.599
I've got the note here. We talked about him in

546
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:45.640
a film at forty five.

547
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:50.599
What's his now? I feel I'm being Michael Hordron. Okay,

548
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:52.279
there it is. That's where I know the voice.

549
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:53.200
It's yeah.

550
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:55.960
See I was thinking I was singing bears. It's actually rabbits.

551
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.039
That was close.

552
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.720
It was animated. Yeah no.

553
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.799
But back to Alan Cox, It's interesting to see Watson

554
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.920
as more of a fumbling, bumbling type when a lot

555
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.440
of times he's he's the sounding board, right, he's the

556
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.359
well it fits, he's the Victorian voice the reason.

557
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.359
Right, but it fits more that he's younger in this

558
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:27.400
and so therefore less wise and less knowledgeable. You know,

559
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:31.519
That's the one thing that I hate about shaw Holm's

560
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:35.960
adaptations is Watson is a doctor. This man is not

561
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:39.240
an idiot. So as much as I love the Basil Rathbone,

562
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:44.079
Nigel Bruce chemistry, like Nigel Bruce made him a moron,

563
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:49.359
and you know, you had to fight that digma of

564
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.079
that character for a really long time. So I like

565
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.519
that Watson gets to be the hero and part of

566
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:57.240
this movie and he gets to figure things out on

567
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.960
his own. I think that's really important because that's more

568
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:03.079
of who he becomes in the stories.

569
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:04.079
Yeah.

570
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:11.319
Sophie Ward as Elizabeth Hardy just adorable. Yes, just I

571
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:17.160
mean the fact that she's playing Hermione Granger long before JK.

572
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:21.640
Relling knows that she's Amione Granger. Definitely, Like, you know,

573
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:25.799
I do, I do love what the girl's doing again

574
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:30.000
to one of these British actresses. Seventy three credits. We

575
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:30.839
the three of us.

576
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:35.640
Have seen three of them. Well, okay, Amber's giving me

577
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.799
a look like, oh, I'm familiar. With her good shair.

578
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.640
So she played a young girl in the Hunger in

579
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:46.119
nineteen eighty three, and I'll be honest, I have no

580
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.400
recollection of her in The Hunger because I was looking

581
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.559
at other things in the Hunger, and if you're seeing

582
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:53.599
The Hunger, you know what I'm talking about. She was

583
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.279
in Return to Oz in nineteen eighty five, same year.

584
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.480
As Scared the Hack Hat Everybody.

585
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:02.759
A little scary in that right right well, and then

586
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.960
obviously the other seventy movies that she's done, you know,

587
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.799
movies and television, I just haven't seen them.

588
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:15.680
This is when the Michael Fastpender Mia Watsakowska Jane Eyre

589
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.440
that came out not too long ago, and played a

590
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:23.440
snotty character. So when she showed up, I was like, Oh, no,

591
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:24.680
you're not this person.

592
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:26.680
That's why Jeff doesn't know it.

593
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:31.720
Hey, you didn't know it either. That's let's not pretend

594
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.720
that Amber's not adding gravitas to this show now, because

595
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.640
she's seen certain things that we would never watch. So

596
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:40.880
of course she was in Jane Air Ambry.

597
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.799
Yeah, obviously I loved her in Jane Eyre.

598
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:45.359
When I will watch.

599
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:50.359
It at something, Oh boys, you know, just As much

600
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.079
as I love to talk about Watson and what he

601
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.039
brought to this film, I want to talk about Elizabeth

602
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.519
Hardy as well. I love the fact that the romance

603
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.240
wasn't overwhelming at all in this film. It was just

604
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.880
it was there, but it wasn't in your face at all.

605
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:06.519
You could just see just little bits of it here

606
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.480
and there when her and Holmes would interact with one another.

607
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.759
And obviously you know when she gets kidnapped and he

608
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:14.920
goes after her, those kind of things, and obviously we

609
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.759
know what happens to her, and it's the second time

610
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:22.400
that he cried that, Watson mentions. But I just love

611
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.880
how they balanced that romance so well that it didn't

612
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:26.440
overwhelm the story at all.

613
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.759
It's almost like they're in on the secret, like their

614
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:33.599
relationship is guarded. They're not making a big deal about it. Right,

615
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:38.359
Even the creep Doyle who's making moves at her, you

616
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:40.400
got to assume that he's maybe he's making moves at

617
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:45.160
her because they haven't openly showed that they're in a relationship.

618
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.880
Possibly, I don't know. I like how subtle it is.

619
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.519
You're absolutely right, David, I think this might have one

620
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:57.119
of the most dashing adversaries in an adventure movie like this.

621
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:02.519
Anthony Higgins as Professor hath Amber. What do you think

622
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:03.440
about the good professor?

623
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:09.880
He is charmingly diabolical. I completely agree.

624
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:14.920
I mean you're probably your probably team uh you know,

625
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.079
Team Wrath until the big reveal at the end, right right,

626
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:19.880
and then you're.

627
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:21.599
Like, oh man, it's always the good.

628
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:27.119
Looking one, Dave Ambers. Why he looks everything, Dave Ambers.

629
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:28.599
The one that's sitting in the front of his class

630
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.960
like blinking her eyes doing the love you blink like ding.

631
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:39.920
That's Amber. Lewis speaking of Raiders. This guy was in Raiders.

632
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:43.679
He must have been in it for like three point

633
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.519
two seconds because I don't so.

634
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.119
You remember, you remember when they're taking the arc check

635
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.079
out what it can do. Amber. He plays Dietrich's second

636
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.239
in command, Gobbler. Mm hmm. He's got it's like a

637
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:00.559
It's like one scene you see in prominently standing next

638
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.639
to Dietrich and then you won't see him for the

639
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:04.039
rest of the movie.

640
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:05.519
Was he German Soldier number fifty?

641
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:08.599
Well he had, I mean at least he had a name.

642
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.239
He true, he gets the he gets credit with the name.

643
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.800
So he was smart to stand next to the guy

644
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:14.800
that got the close.

645
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:19.679
Up, so exactly exactly, you know, I I Wraith was awesome.

646
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.880
I think he was a very dashing villain that that uncovers.

647
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:26.559
But the one that freaked me out the most was

648
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:27.239
Missus Dribb.

649
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:32.599
I mean was okay, hold on, hold on one more, Okay,

650
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:34.639
what you guys are You guys are just moving right along?

651
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:35.039
All right?

652
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.920
Well, before we get to missus Dribb, a little fun

653
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.199
fact about Higgins.

654
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.280
Did you guys know he's only he's he's just one

655
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:42.880
of only.

656
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:46.760
Two actors that have played both Sherlock Holmes and Professor Moriarty.

657
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:52.000
No now, so obviously he's playing you know, spoiler alert.

658
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.079
Forty years later, he does end up becoming Moriarty in

659
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:02.480
this movie, but he also played Sherlock Holmes in Sherlock

660
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.559
Holmes Returns in nineteen ninety three. Amber, we were off

661
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.840
Mike the other day and you said you had a

662
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:09.519
story about the end credits.

663
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:10.280
You want you want to share that?

664
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:17.039
Oh? God? So so. My dad loved Sherlock Holmes, read

665
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.559
the stories over and over, saw the movies, and I

666
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.000
when this movie came out, I had read like, I

667
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:27.199
don't know, maybe half a dozen stories and had seen

668
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.639
some of the Basil Rathbone movies and that was kind

669
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:33.000
of it. And so we watched the movie. We go

670
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.079
through the end credits and you're watching this sleigh travel

671
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.320
through the snow and this man is all bundled up

672
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.360
in there and he gets out and he goes into

673
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:44.760
the inn and the woman says, you know, sign the register.

674
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:52.599
And in my defense, his handwriting is atrocious. So if

675
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:57.000
you didn't know already what he was writing, like, there's

676
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.119
really no way you knew what it was. And so

677
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.239
he writes his name and my dad starts laughing and

678
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.960
I'm like I don't get it, and he's like he's Moriarty,

679
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:13.639
and I was like Phil and my dad just was

680
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.599
like do I yell at her? Do I have a

681
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:18.519
heart attack? Like what do I do? And then he

682
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:20.440
just handed me riking buck falls and one's like I

683
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:24.880
read this. But that was like a running joke in

684
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:26.679
our family for a long time, like who the hell

685
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:28.760
is Moriarty? Like what even is that thing?

686
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:33.400
Your dad would have been equally disappointed in me, because

687
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.079
up until recently I didn't even know there was an

688
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.920
end credit sequence, like a little stinger, what.

689
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:43.920
It's one of those things where Holmes leaves in a carriage.

690
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.760
You bare your face in some pot in the last

691
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.320
bit of your popcorn, and you look back up the

692
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:54.880
credits are rolling and you see, you know, carriage moving,

693
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:56.760
it's driving through the countryside. I was just like, okay,

694
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.000
well he's leaving. He's going to his brother's house.

695
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:00.280
One to Micross house. Whatever.

696
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:06.679
Yeah, got up and walk away, evens Jeff I insert

697
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.400
my meme of get out.

698
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.719
But here's the thing, Like in recent years now, it's

699
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.079
like I want to watch all the way to the

700
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:16.559
end because we were doing this show and it's like

701
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:18.920
I'm always now I'm looking for like East Eggs, like

702
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.280
someone's name, Like wait, that person was a props master

703
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:23.679
before they were a director, you know.

704
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:27.280
So I'm watching, I'm like, wow, we're still doing this.

705
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.119
We haven't faded a black. And then I'm like, oh wait,

706
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:30.400
we're not.

707
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.719
This is even homes It's it's the Professor. And then

708
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:37.760
he signs Moriarty. I'm like, holy what forty forty year

709
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.559
old time bomb just blows in my head.

710
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.920
Yeah all right, well, okay, Susan Fleetwood, this is drib

711
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:51.039
you guys, now you're quiet you guys were like, let's

712
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:52.599
talk about drib wow.

713
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.360
I mean, she just freaks me out, man, come on, yeah,

714
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:58.559
she is character and.

715
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.360
It always freaks Liam out because she's Athena and Clash

716
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:07.960
of the Titans. And he's like, but how could you.

717
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.880
You know, in any character that's a villain that's like

718
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:10.440
threatening an animal.

719
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.840
Straight too? She doesn't even like she starts out with

720
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.119
let's take it to the pound, which is bad nothing.

721
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.920
Then she's like, oh it's okay, I'll kill it myself.

722
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:22.880
Like it's like nobody DW.

723
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:29.880
Zero to sixty and such a bummer. I'm with I'm

724
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:30.360
with Liam.

725
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.880
You know, she's the goddess Athena from Clash of the

726
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:37.719
Titans and maybe the most attractive of the of the goddesses.

727
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.599
I mean, I'm sorry, Jean Maggie Smith, go watch the

728
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:44.320
movie again. What's the matter with you?

729
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:44.679
Look?

730
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.800
He looks has like one shoulder going like come on.

731
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:54.360
But you know, I'm just saying like I and we

732
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:55.840
all have a type.

733
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:58.440
And Athena was like the girl next door, the you know,

734
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:01.239
the brunette. I got a shot with her Amber is

735
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:07.840
what I'm saying. Ok, you know, but yeah, to see

736
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:13.039
her go from that to scary bald psychopath when that

737
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:23.079
wig comes. Yeah, no way. The only the only thing

738
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.440
that that seems missing is Bruce Campbell going, hey.

739
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:33.360
She bitch, get some yes, terrifying no is Yeah. Oh man,

740
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:36.920
Uh that's who I wanted to talk about. I know

741
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.639
there's a bunch of British guys. I suspect both both

742
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.960
of you have information about you know, anyone you want

743
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:43.639
to you want to mention before we move on.

744
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:47.159
Well, the fun thing is that almost every single one

745
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:51.400
of them has played Holmes or Watson or Moriarty or

746
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:52.800
Lestratton like something.

747
00:40:53.400 --> 00:41:00.280
Yeah, Dave, was that on the casting sheet? Like probably? Yeah,

748
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:03.880
bring bring a you know, bring a photo and make

749
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.400
sure you've been at least some kind of production stage

750
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.119
or screen. Yeah.

751
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.599
Everyone Sherlock Holmes and doctor Who.

752
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:14.039
This while if you need a cast I can do

753
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:14.719
one or both of them.

754
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.679
This is this is like in America you get to

755
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:17.559
the Law and Order.

756
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.880
Yeah, bum year book.

757
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:24.920
Who.

758
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.000
Yeah.

759
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:31.360
Uh So this movie also known as Young Sherlock Holmes

760
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.599
and the Pyramid of Fear. The retitling was done overseas

761
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:37.679
and on home video to give the movie a more

762
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:41.639
adventurous title, akin to Spielberg's Raiders.

763
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:43.320
Of the Lost Ark and Temple of Doom.

764
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:45.800
I don't like it.

765
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:49.960
Okay, So here's where I'm at with it. First off,

766
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.719
this movie screams.

767
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.320
Franchise, and I don't understand why we didn't get it.

768
00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:00.239
I mean I do, but but I don't. I like

769
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.760
the first one is young Sherlock Holmes, and then you

770
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:07.280
move on to young Sherlock Holmes and the you know,

771
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.079
give it the indie treatment that way, because I will

772
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:12.079
never say Indiana Jones and the Raiders.

773
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:13.559
Of the Lost Dark. That's no sacrilege.

774
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.119
It's always Raiders of Law fart, that's it.

775
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:18.679
Yes, yeah, it's Star Wars. I'm not. I'm just I'm

776
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:20.159
just not gonna say, hey, yeah, I like I like

777
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:21.480
a New Hope. I'm gonna say, I know, I like,

778
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:26.199
I like Star Wars. You know, the retitling posts release.

779
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:31.320
I'm not. I'm not a fan of Nope. Dave nominated

780
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.119
for Best Visual Effects.

781
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.960
For good reason. What's the reason Because this is the

782
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.599
first THEATCA movie to have used completely CGI for a

783
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.800
character in a film, and is of course the night

784
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:47.840
when he's coming out of the stained glass window to

785
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.880
attack the priest. Industrial Lyton Magic animated this scene, and

786
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:57.320
of course the person who oversaw that is John Lassiter,

787
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.360
who we all know has a lot to do with Pixar.

788
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:05.880
Yeah, this is It's kind of like Pixar's right.

789
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.880
Yeah, absolutely it is, and it's incredible. I mean, it

790
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.519
still looks really good in this film. When I was

791
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:13.960
watching it yesterday, I'm like, man, this still looks good.

792
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.519
So I've got the the still book, the Blu Ray

793
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:23.639
Steal book on this That night looks fantastic. Yeah, you

794
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:25.239
would never know it's nineteen eighty five.

795
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:27.239
No, you just wouldn't.

796
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:29.360
Well, and let's give a shout out to the Foley

797
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:34.000
as well, because like the crunching of his steps and

798
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.039
the way when he clutches the sword, like the way

799
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:42.360
the glass grinds together. Yeah, all of that is just amazing.

800
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:47.920
Absolutely good, call amazing. As it is the fifty eighth

801
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:49.519
Academy Awards.

802
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:59.400
It loses to What to Cocoon Amber This movie, This movie, this.

803
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:04.679
Movie has the the Glass Night Cocoon has Wolford Brimley

804
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:05.400
in a swimming pool.

805
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:07.920
What the hell is going on? And at the at

806
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:09.559
the Academy Awards and.

807
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.880
Even all the hallucination stuff that you see throughout this film. Yeah, absolutely,

808
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:14.320
all incredible.

809
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:18.159
All like the night is the only effect that was done. Like,

810
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:23.199
there are amazing effects throughout. Oh, that's I'm gonna say

811
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:24.639
potty words. That's wrong.

812
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:27.880
Yeah, we got sponsors. Be careful.

813
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.119
But somebody's paying somebody off, is what that is?

814
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:38.480
Yeah, that Howard has a lot of friends. Little Kenningham

815
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:40.000
was making some phone calls.

816
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:46.440
Wait, hold on, Ron, Howard's film wins this award against Winkler.

817
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:51.280
Winkler's producing Richie. This is Richie versus Fonsie and Richie

818
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.719
and Richie wins chance.

819
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:57.199
Opie. Kenningham's been in the game since he was three.

820
00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:59.320
Well, Jeff, we need to bring this up to both

821
00:44:59.320 --> 00:44:59.480
of them.

822
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.760
When we see we're going, yeah, we're going yeah, yeah, Yeah,

823
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.480
it's not we're talking around Howard.

824
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:10.920
You're burning down the comic. Yeah, let's scratch up a

825
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:11.719
forty year.

826
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:17.599
Old Yeah, I'm not. Let's talk. Let's talk fifty eight awards.

827
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:18.880
How do you really feel?

828
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:21.360
And do you mind if you record it right?

829
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:26.960
Can we get a SoundBite? Please? Do you have any

830
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.880
any good stuff from from you that you uncovered? Yeah?

831
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:34.280
So if if you've noticed there is a theme throughout

832
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.880
this film that you'll notice there's they show shadows like

833
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:41.280
throughout this entire movie. Okay, yeah, there's like I want

834
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:42.800
to say, there's like there could be more, but I

835
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.960
counted ten of them where you you purposely see a

836
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.880
shadow on the wall. Okay, okay from somebody. This movie

837
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.880
opens up with one of those shadows of a shower

838
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.079
moving across the ground, which is an homage to the

839
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.079
opening credit sequence of the Battle wrath Own Shore like

840
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:04.679
Holmes franchise. And that's why they did that.

841
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:08.199
That makes that makes less sense? Now, all right, did

842
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:08.960
you catch that? Amber?

843
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:10.079
I did?

844
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.960
I was like, yep, all right, nice.

845
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:16.559
I kind of wonder if that's how they got the

846
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:19.639
Conan Doyle estate, like on Board was they saw what

847
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:23.920
a love letter it was to the original stories and

848
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:26.920
all of the adaptations, and they couldn't say no.

849
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:33.320
Yep, speaking of love letters, this movie was critically acclaimed.

850
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.039
I mean, they ate it up, Cisco Ebert everyone at

851
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.239
the time, they're loving it, but it fails to find

852
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:41.639
an audience at the box office.

853
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.679
It earns nineteen million on a budget of eighteen million.

854
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:48.599
What happened? Guys? How do you? How do you account

855
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:50.159
for this? Film's lack of success.

856
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.119
What was it up against other than like Out of Africa,

857
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.119
which kids are going to see.

858
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:58.199
Here's the thing you, I'm going to solve the mystery

859
00:46:58.199 --> 00:46:58.360
for you.

860
00:46:58.440 --> 00:46:58.760
Amber.

861
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:01.960
It opened against spies like Us, But.

862
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:08.079
More importantly, it's competing with the movie released the previous week, which.

863
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:08.960
Was Rocky four.

864
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.639
Man Rocky that pulverizes everything in the box office. And

865
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:16.880
then a week later, as it's trying to catch its breath,

866
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:21.800
the Jewel of the Nile and Clue both come out.

867
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.360
By the end, yeah, it had it never had a chance.

868
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.239
By the end of the month, Young Shulock Calms is

869
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:28.480
all but done, and you remember it's Victorian. It takes

870
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:32.079
place at Christmas. You'd think there's hope for some small reprieve.

871
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:36.360
But last December twenty fifth saw the release of yet

872
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:39.000
another big sequel, Howling.

873
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:40.320
To Your Sister Is a Werewolf?

874
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:44.800
Yeah no, I just I saw that. I was like, really,

875
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:48.800
Howling two came out Christmas? See okay, Christmas Day? Okay, sure, no.

876
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.800
It just bad timing, you know it was.

877
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:57.239
It was just wedged right into some blockbuster sequels. And

878
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.199
then while Spies like Us isn't a is it a sequel. Well,

879
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.400
that's Chevy Chase and dan Aykroyd at the height of the.

880
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:05.280
Right, at the height of the puppet. Right.

881
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:06.400
Yeah.

882
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.000
I still don't get how this didn't catch on though

883
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:12.280
later on. I mean it's a fantastic I mean it

884
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.760
has in a way, don't get me wrong, but it

885
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.239
still kind of gets swept under the rug. People forget

886
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:19.559
about it. And I don't understand that because you know

887
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.199
all these powerhouses that are involved with this. You got

888
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.719
Frank Marshall, you got Kathleen Kennedy, you got Steven Spielberg,

889
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.400
you got Christopher Columbus, you have all of these people,

890
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:31.039
and it is a really good story. It's got phenomenal

891
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:36.119
to cinematography, it's got phenomenal performances by its actors. It's

892
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:40.119
got everything going for it, the score, everything hits so well.

893
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:43.639
And it aggravates me to no end that this did

894
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:44.760
not take off like it should have.

895
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:48.079
I've never seen any any clips or heard any any

896
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:50.920
clips from Spielberg about how he feels about this movie,

897
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:55.159
because you know, he's famous Dave famously he will either

898
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:57.960
turn on a movie like he did with Temple of Doom,

899
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.639
or he'll embrace a movie if he knows it's truly good.

900
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:02.800
I have to believe that he's he's a fan of

901
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.239
this film, and he's you know, he'll champion it. But

902
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:07.039
I've never heard him talk about this one never.

903
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:10.400
I think it's too busy, you know, talking about guineas

904
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:15.400
and Gremlins and you know, all this other stuff, and

905
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.320
it doesn't really have like a platform where it can land,

906
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.239
Like it's not going to be on Disney Plus or

907
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:21.960
something like that.

908
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:27.079
I think this is just a situation where if you

909
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.760
would have put this out maybe in September or October,

910
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.760
away from some of the blockbusters, maybe maybe it gets popular,

911
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:36.000
Maybe it gets a life.

912
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:40.039
You you knock out two.

913
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:43.199
Maybe three sequels with with this young cast, you know,

914
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.000
and I think in an in another reality, they're all

915
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:48.280
huge stars because of it.

916
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.039
You know, it's funny we hear a film buy. We

917
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.000
always talk, we always want to talk about movies that

918
00:49:55.079 --> 00:50:01.039
are underrated. This movie is the very definition underrated.

919
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:04.960
I had that in a note later, Dave, but I

920
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.119
think it's like you're reading my notes.

921
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:08.400
I can we agree.

922
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:12.559
I think this is the most underrated film we've probably

923
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:13.280
ever discussed.

924
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.639
I would agree with that has to be yeah.

925
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:20.960
Let's talk about some noteworthy scenes, maybe a pivotal moment.

926
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:26.400
So I want to jump right into to a major

927
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:31.119
one we talked earlier about, Uh, we talked about one franchise,

928
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:36.480
Harry Potter, maybe barring a lot from this movie. I

929
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.440
want to talk about a scene that is almost shot

930
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.199
for shot right out of Indiana Jones and the Temple

931
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.679
of Doom, which is discovering the romy tep m hm.

932
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:49.320
Did you have to see it?

933
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:49.760
Oh?

934
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:50.559
Yeah, I mean, you know, I.

935
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:56.039
Hate Temple of Doom, so I'm not I'm gonna stay

936
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:57.320
they stole from this movie.

937
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:02.199
But well so all right, this came after Temple of

938
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.639
Doom and it's it's such a shot for shot, you know,

939
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.000
remake of that scene.

940
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.800
I had some fun. I'd recently watched Temple of Doom.

941
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.440
The show You Can't Be Serious podcasts had recently done

942
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.519
The Goonies Versus Temple of Doom, which is was an

943
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:23.840
awesome two parter go check those check them out if

944
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:25.400
you if if you haven't done so already.

945
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:26.840
But I had to.

946
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:30.119
I had to have some fun with Jason Jason Colvin

947
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.159
from you know him and d Graves they do they

948
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:34.079
do the show so I called Jason.

949
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.599
I said, hey, man, we're we're doing a a movie.

950
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.039
I know you're gonna love because it's from the mid

951
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:41.920
eighties and he's a big eighties fan.

952
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:43.280
He's like, what what do you got? I said, I'm

953
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:44.960
gonna give you some hints.

954
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:51.880
I was like, you got an iconic hero, his younger sidekick,

955
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:58.079
and a fair, fair skin blonde who are caught up

956
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:01.000
in an adventure and they make their way through this

957
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.679
cavern and then they find themselves looking down on a

958
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:09.400
bunch of religious psychos that are chanting and about to

959
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:12.480
sacrifice a live person.

960
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:15.159
And he's like, I say, hold on, let me give

961
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:16.400
you one more hint.

962
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:20.760
It's produced by Kathleen Kennedy and Frank Marshall. And he's like, well,

963
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:25.000
you're doing Temple of Doom. I said, of course not.

964
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:28.199
He's like, yes you are. I said no, we're not, dude.

965
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:29.920
I said, wait till you find out.

966
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:35.119
But that scene, you know, David my Riot, is it

967
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:36.239
almost a shot for shot?

968
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.599
Yeah, you're not wrong. I mean we talked about this

969
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:41.840
a while back and how it is almost dead on

970
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.639
Temple of Doom right there, and how.

971
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:48.400
About how about all these all the devotees when it's

972
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.119
time for them to fight, what do they have? They

973
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:55.119
have swords, just like the thuggee. So yeah, and you

974
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:59.800
can't even mad at young Sholock Kolmzo because it's Spielberg.

975
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:00.559
Mm hmm.

976
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:04.320
So Spielberg's just barring from Spielberg. You know. It's almost

977
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:05.280
like they're like, hey, what do we do?

978
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:08.760
And He's like, hey, guys, got a great idea, worked,

979
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:09.960
it worked really well last year.

980
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:12.039
Let's just let's just do it.

981
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.119
They probably had the sets still still up.

982
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.719
We'll just change out some of the the Indian stuff

983
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:21.199
and we'll throw on some Egyptian ship and it'll it'll

984
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:21.559
look good.

985
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:24.239
I mean, well, I'll take your.

986
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:26.320
Word for it, because I haven't seen Temple of Doom

987
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.760
as many times as I'm sure you have. But I

988
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.000
will say this, this is my favorite scene in the

989
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:35.239
whole movie. I love like the slow build of it.

990
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:39.239
I love Sherlock sneaking through the acolytes and he steals

991
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:45.000
that guy's like the box thing off. Yeah, like just

992
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.800
totally picks his pocket. And then like the reveal, like

993
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:54.039
you're watching them wrap this girl in linen and she's vacant,

994
00:53:54.199 --> 00:54:01.119
glassy eyed, so you assume she's dead. They the paraffine

995
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:04.920
on her, and the reveal that she's alive is just horrific.

996
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:08.440
Oh yeah, it's it becomes it's full on nightmare, I

997
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:12.000
feel at that point, because it's these people weren't scary

998
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:13.920
enough and the chant, the rommy tch chant.

999
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:15.440
I should just go back to the chanting again. I

1000
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:17.639
mean tell you that puts you on edge. That chanting

1001
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:22.000
disturbs you so much, and in what is going on

1002
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.559
in front of you too just is disturbing. But that chant,

1003
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:26.039
oh my god, I.

1004
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:28.360
Mean, it just raises the stakes so much. And then

1005
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.440
at the end when they you know, do the key

1006
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:35.360
change and now it's Elizabeth, it's one, you know, the

1007
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:37.760
chopping block like you're.

1008
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:41.280
So stressed out or Dave, imagine a playlist that's that's

1009
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:43.320
the rommy tep chant with a thuggy chant.

1010
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:46.920
Tail anxiety going on.

1011
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:50.840
Amber.

1012
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:53.320
You really you really don't remember that scene from Temple

1013
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:55.360
of Doom or you and you really don't like Temple Doom.

1014
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:59.480
Well I can't stand Temple of Doom, but I mean

1015
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.400
I remember remember kind of what you're talking about, because

1016
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:04.440
that's the part where they ripped the guy's heart out

1017
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:10.519
of his chest. It's disgusting, but I don't remember it

1018
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:14.360
enough to say with the confidence that you're exuding that

1019
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:15.400
it's a shot for shot.

1020
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.639
It makes me sad that you don't like Temple a Doom.

1021
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:21.519
It's not a good movie. I'm not sad about it.

1022
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:27.239
Yeah, well, do you know what to that, I say, I'll.

1023
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:29.360
Be watching the Guineas and enjoying myself.

1024
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:34.199
The Goomies are good enough. Another scene Amber alluded to

1025
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.480
this earlier. I just love it.

1026
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:39.119
It's it's the ending with Holmes's profile and the carriage.

1027
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.440
We get the explanation of the deer stalker cap, the pipe,

1028
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:47.000
the coat. It's just a fantastic explanation of the character's

1029
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:47.519
famous look.

1030
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:51.840
There's there's so many other scenes too in this film

1031
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:56.679
that I really appreciate and I love so much. One

1032
00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:58.800
of them is when Elizabeth is in the window and

1033
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.639
she does the I Love you and writes it backwards

1034
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:04.400
to him, and then towards the end of the film,

1035
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:08.559
after she's gone, he looks up to that window and

1036
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:12.079
just it's just it's it's it's heartbreaking, is what it is,

1037
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:14.119
and you know it could be and he has to

1038
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:17.360
stand there and just basically, you know, take it because

1039
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:19.880
he knows he lost the one love that he had.

1040
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.559
And you know which in this you know universe of

1041
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.800
Charlock Holmes defines him. It's just as Christopher Columbus said

1042
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.800
in that quote that you gave. But that scene is

1043
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:33.360
just so heartbreaking, and I love it so much. I

1044
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:36.519
love the fact that one of the main characters was

1045
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:40.360
not safe. I love it when movies take that to

1046
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:42.960
an extreme and they you know, and they use it.

1047
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.000
I don't like it when you know this character is

1048
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.679
nothing's gonna happen to him. Come on, now, we know

1049
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:50.679
bad things happen, and it needs to happen sometimes. And

1050
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.679
I'm glad Christopher Columbus and and Levinson and all of

1051
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:55.840
them took it to that level, in that extreme here,

1052
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:59.559
because again it made Charlote Holmes who he is.

1053
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:04.559
Well, this movie is shocking in the regard that evil

1054
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.559
has to be punished, and it is. And you know

1055
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:10.760
that that Sherlock and Watson are gonna be fine because

1056
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:14.639
this is like their their origin story. And you just

1057
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:19.239
you blindly assume, you know you you you you naively

1058
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.840
assume that that Elizabeth is gonna be just fine too.

1059
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:27.440
Why wouldn't she be exactly that I have to.

1060
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:31.239
Believe that was hard for I mean I remember thinking like, oh,

1061
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:34.440
she'll be okay, Holmes will save her. Yeah, but then

1062
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:37.400
she he doesn't. It's you You.

1063
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.599
See a side of homes that you never see. You

1064
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:42.840
see that human side where he has emotions. I mean, honestly,

1065
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.400
Holmes is almost like data he does from Star Trek.

1066
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:48.840
He doesn't have those emotions there, or he hides them

1067
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:51.039
so no one can see them because it would make

1068
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:54.280
him look weak. And another thing that love is the

1069
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:57.960
first time he cried because he loved Rupert. He really

1070
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:02.519
did he appear, Yeah, he respected him even and I

1071
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:06.800
love his laboratory by the way, freaking Rupert's laboratory. But

1072
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:10.360
when when he gets killed or he kills himself because

1073
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:13.119
of the hallucinations. But and he he goes to the

1074
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.400
funeral and really, you know, he can't be there because

1075
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.280
he could get in trouble, so he's in the background,

1076
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:19.000
stuff like that, and he's crying for the first I mean,

1077
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:23.920
you hear that narration from Watson again, so heartbreaking, But

1078
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.239
it just shows you homes in a different light that

1079
00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:28.400
you don't normally see. And I thought, I another reason

1080
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:30.039
why I love this film so much.

1081
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:32.440
Amber Harsh, I get it.

1082
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:34.679
They've expelled him from school, but he's not even allowed

1083
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:36.280
to attend the funeral, right.

1084
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:38.880
I mean, I mean.

1085
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:42.639
They don't miss a round at all.

1086
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:45.920
But you know that, like David was saying though, that

1087
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.760
just Holmes in Future Stories has such a dark side

1088
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:55.840
and you know, substance abuse problems that you know, and

1089
00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:59.280
he has suffered trauma and you know all of that

1090
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:02.480
weighs on you in different ways, and so you know,

1091
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:06.599
this is just another layer into building you know who

1092
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:07.960
he eventually becomes.

1093
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:11.679
Yep, guys, let's uh, let's take one last break and

1094
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:17.320
when we come back, we'll start wrapping things up. Okay,

1095
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:24.639
Amber the Voice of Reason. Someone someone watches Young Shlock Holmes.

1096
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:28.159
They absolutely love it, because they should, but they are

1097
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:33.039
completely unfamiliar with Barry Levinson. I'd like to know what

1098
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:35.599
three films would you suggest they watch?

1099
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:39.239
Well, this is kind of interesting because I haven't really

1100
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:43.800
seen anything he's done, like since the nineties, quite a

1101
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:46.719
few things since then, but I just haven't. I don't know,

1102
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:50.440
I just missed it. So mine are all older selections.

1103
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:52.239
Give me the first one, since.

1104
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:58.400
I can't do homicide b The first one is The Natural,

1105
00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:04.039
which is my absolute favorite of his movies. I mean,

1106
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.440
it's baseball, it's Robert Redford, Like, my god, what more

1107
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:07.920
do you need?

1108
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:12.800
It's Wilford Brimley, not in a swimming pool and cocoon, Dave,

1109
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:16.199
let's let's uh, let's go round Robin here, David, Does

1110
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:17.159
The Natural make your list?

1111
01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:21.599
Absolutely?

1112
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:26.800
You know, it's it's amazing. And I don't know how

1113
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:29.440
hot this take is, but I'll say this. I'm not

1114
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:31.679
gonna say it's the best baseball movie.

1115
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:32.199
It's not.

1116
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:36.320
It's not. Hey, I don't know. Let me let me,

1117
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:39.159
let me, let me, let me finish here. It's not

1118
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:44.800
the best baseball movie, but it has the most famous

1119
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:48.800
baseball scene in any movie ever. I agree with you

1120
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:51.679
on that because when he hits that ball into the lights,

1121
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:55.920
the music, it's amazing, Dave. When we were playing Little League,

1122
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:57.039
how many how often did.

1123
01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:58.559
You like, when you know, rarely, when you had that

1124
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:01.000
night game, how often did you want to hit it

1125
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:03.119
into the light and watch that light explode?

1126
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:04.400
Every single time?

1127
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:06.039
Every single time? Right?

1128
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:10.960
Yeah, it's it's a fantastic movie, and it's one. It's

1129
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:15.639
it's probably it's definitely a top five Baseball film for sure.

1130
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:17.800
I mean we know their own is the best.

1131
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:22.800
Uh, we did not know that. Hey, look there's no

1132
01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:32.559
a this is for this spins out of control Amber.

1133
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:37.119
What is your second suggestion for a Barry Levinson film?

1134
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:37.760
Rainman?

1135
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:40.760
What a what a coincidence? Nineteen eighty eighth?

1136
01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:43.239
Rain Man happens to be my second choice as well,

1137
01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:45.000
Dave does? Does Rainman make your list?

1138
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:45.480
Ding?

1139
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:45.960
Ding ding?

1140
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:49.440
Yes? It does? Wow? Check this out? Are we a

1141
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:52.880
little biased because they shot a portion of it in Cincinnataha? No,

1142
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:55.119
it's an amazing film.

1143
01:01:55.320 --> 01:02:00.639
Yeah, it's I think it's the best performance Tom ever gave.

1144
01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:03.159
I would agree with that. Him and desthin hoffin we're

1145
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:04.960
just brilliant, Yes, brilliant.

1146
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:05.840
You're waiting.

1147
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:08.000
You're both said, you're both going on record saying this

1148
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:10.039
is the best Tom Cruise role.

1149
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:10.920
Yeah.

1150
01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.599
Yeah, he's not playing Tom Cruise exactly.

1151
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:18.079
He's not. Well, all kinds of fighting going on here.

1152
01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:19.239
Let's let's move on.

1153
01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:21.599
Maybe we move on.

1154
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:27.920
Are not afraid of you say safety in numbers happening

1155
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:28.760
on this episode?

1156
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:31.679
All right, let's put a pin in Tom Cruise for now.

1157
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:33.360
We'll have that conversation another.

1158
01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:39.719
Time, because uh, I didn't expect that, Miss lewis your

1159
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:45.119
third choice? Uh, for someone to watch Barry Levinson film.

1160
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:47.239
Here's where I think we're gonna we're all gonna differ.

1161
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:48.840
What Morning Vietnam?

1162
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:53.119
All right? Good morning Vietnam? Problem Williams? Dave, you're nodding

1163
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:56.079
in agreement, as is this your third pick?

1164
01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:59.920
Good Morning Vietnam? That's right, thank you.

1165
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:01.519
I wanted to do it, but I have a cold

1166
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:02.400
n start coffee.

1167
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:09.519
An amazing film, it really is it. It's Robin Williams,

1168
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:12.199
so you know you're gonna just laugh your butt off.

1169
01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:15.159
But then there's there's some heartbreaking moments in the movie.

1170
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:18.679
Yes, you know, I mean there has to be. It's

1171
01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:19.840
a it's a movie about Vietnam.

1172
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.559
I mean, it's not gonna be all slapsticky and funny

1173
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:23.920
the whole time.

1174
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:29.119
But yeah, an amazing film. That was not my third choice.

1175
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:30.199
What is yours?

1176
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:35.360
Jeff, I'm curious, I'm going Uh, we didn't talk about this.

1177
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.440
We did it. We did a limited series for nineteen

1178
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:39.719
ninety six. This one.

1179
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:42.239
I wanted to get in there and was like, you

1180
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:44.280
know what, It'll never happen the way I wanted to,

1181
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:47.480
and I'll save it and we'll do a film by

1182
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:48.079
Barry Levinson.

1183
01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:51.119
We'll do this one and then we're here doing.

1184
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.079
Young Shlock Home. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

1185
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:55.400
slide into the back pocket. We'll do it next time

1186
01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:57.679
we do Levinson. I'm talking about Sleepers.

1187
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:00.480
Thank you?

1188
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:01.400
Wait, what do you mean?

1189
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:01.840
Hold on?

1190
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:04.119
Okay? Amber, you just hold on, David, you yuck.

1191
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:06.440
Also, I mean, I'm not a big fan of that movie.

1192
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:08.679
You're not a fan of Dustin Hoffman and Robert de

1193
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:12.519
Niro and Jason Patrick, and I mean, just amazing performances,

1194
01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:15.159
and you know, basely it's it is the Count of

1195
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:16.039
Monte Cristo.

1196
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:19.760
Children being raped and beaten and attention center like.

1197
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:24.400
Amber, I say, that's it's a powerful movie. It's about redemption,

1198
01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:25.320
it's about revenge.

1199
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:27.920
And it's Nope, you mean nope, nope.

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You're gonna apparently this is against Jeff Show.

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I'll watch how about that?

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All right? I didn't expect you guys to I knew

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01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.000
you guys were gonna go Good Morning Vietnam. Didn't I

1204
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.639
expect the backlash against Sleepers.

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01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:47.360
I mean, when you're wrong, you're wrong.

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01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:52.840
No, this is this is one of my favorite Dustin

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Hoffman roles too, where he's just a oh dufis that's

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trying to you know, he's like a little bit of

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an alcoholic and you can't get his you know, DeNiro

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is the priest over all these other films.

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Really this right, I like what I like. I won't apologize.

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All right, Look, we all let's agree that we all

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love Young Sherlock Holmes. Yes, heck yeah, Amber final thoughts

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on Young Sherlock Holmes.

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I mean, what haven't we said. It's just an absolutely

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delightful movie that I think, you know, maybe we were

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lucky enough to watch because our family was fans of

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01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:33.599
Sherlock Holmes and was like, oh, let's watch this, you know,

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01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:39.280
fun take because we watched them all. But I think

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it's very accessible and it holds up over time. So

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I'm all for pitching this to the new generation.

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Absolutely, how about it, David?

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I love and adore this film. The score, the cinematography, script,

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01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:59.320
speci efects. I've mentioned it all. It is baffled me

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01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.719
why it didn't become a huge hit. But yes, we

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01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:05.880
need the younger generation to see this film because it

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deserves to be seen by everybody.

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Guys, is it fair to say that it's It lives

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in the neighborhood the same neighborhood as a Princess Bride.

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Where you want romance, you got it. You want action, adventure,

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01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:22.440
you got it. You want thrills, you got it. You

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01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:24.800
want some scary moments, you got it. You want some

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01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:26.920
a little bit of laughter, some funny stuff.

1234
01:06:26.679 --> 01:06:28.360
You got it.

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It kind of appeals to all the genres the way

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Princess Bride does in a.

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01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:39.800
Way right, sword fights, chases, escapes, miracles.

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Absolutely.

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You can check this out on Pluto TV where it's

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streaming free with ads, or you can order the still book.

1241
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:55.079
It's out there. Go buy yourself copy of that. Listeners.

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What do you think of young Sherlock Holmes? Have you

1243
01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:00.639
seen this one? Where do you rank it among the

1244
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:03.760
many other Sherlock Holmes films. You can let us know

1245
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:04.440
on social media.

1246
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:07.639
You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, and x You can

1247
01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.320
check out a Film Buy podcast for all of our

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01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:13.480
film and TV articles and the entire.

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01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:15.199
Library streaming free.

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01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:17.440
You can write to us at a Film by Podcast

1251
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:20.199
at gmail dot com with your questions, comments and concerns.

1252
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:22.960
We may just read your response on the show and.

1253
01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:24.400
Send you some a film by Swag.

1254
01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:27.920
You know, I believe this is the first episode that

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01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:29.599
three of us have worked on together.

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Am I right?

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Or a film buying? I believe it is. Yes.

1258
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:34.719
I don't think the three of us have ever been

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on the same episode for anything.

1260
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I've had a blast.

1261
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:40.880
Yeah, I have some fun Yeah, yeah, movie to.

1262
01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:43.800
Do with Yeah. I think we should do it again.

1263
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:48.000
How about how about we do a Spielberg episode so

1264
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long as we all agree we're doing we're doing dual?

1265
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:51.719
Would you guys come.

1266
01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:52.079
On for that.

1267
01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:54.400
I'm on board with that, yes, all right?

1268
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:54.760
All right?

1269
01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:58.840
Cool? Well, on that note, I will.

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End with an apology to all of you out there

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01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:06.000
because next week's episode will be available one day late,

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01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:10.360
as we plan to release it on Tuesday. Does that

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mean it has anything to do with April Fool's Day?

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Perhaps? Does it mean we have something special for you?

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01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:20.439
Most definitely so to.

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All of you listening to the show, following us on

1277
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:49.960
social media, and subscribing to our Patreon, we thank you.

1278
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:55.039
It comes from Wayne.

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01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.720
Wayne is making his way in the.

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01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:04.840
Door today hooks Today.

1281
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:14.359
Uh, why is it that certain lines from movies that

1282
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:17.039
really aren't that that funny? But they're hilarious when you

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01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:22.640
repeat them. I laughed like an idiot. A couple of

1284
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:26.039
days ago. I was watching The Goonies mm hmm, and

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01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:30.479
that line were at the beginning when uh, when when

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their mom comes home and she's like, what is that?

1287
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:35.279
And Chunk just goes, oh, ship, what.

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01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:38.560
I mean?

1289
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It's not even the funniest that's that He's supposed to

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01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:43.399
be the funny part of the movie. But yeah, hey,

1291
01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.399
Wayne's here.

1292
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:48.159
Why the picture wouldn't come up?

1293
01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:48.319
There?

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01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:48.600
We go?

1295
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:52.520
Wayne? Any uh.

1296
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:58.119
Any any suggestions on what you want playing under you?

1297
01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:01.520
Like, what's the you think the one?

1298
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:06.760
Either that one or use waxing Elizabeth.

1299
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:09.439
Is waxing Elizabeth the creepy chanting, the rommy tep chant.

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01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:10.119
Yeah, that's it.

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That's I'm gonna I'm gonna put that. I'm putting that

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all over the episode. You know that