May 25, 2025

Bill Paxton: Our Top 10 Favorite Film Roles

Bill Paxton: Our Top 10 Favorite Film Roles

Jason Colvin of the https://www.thesurelypodcast.com/ joins Jeff for a conversation about Bill Paxton as our Bill Paxton Month comes to an end. They discuss the roles he didn't take, notable TV appearances, and share their Top 10 Favorite Film Roles!...

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Season 6 A Film By...

Jason Colvin of the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast joins Jeff for a conversation about Bill Paxton as our Bill Paxton Month comes to an end. They discuss the roles he didn't take, notable TV appearances, and share their Top 10 Favorite Film Roles!

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All month long, I have been asking people what their

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favorite Bill Paxton role is because it's been Bill. It's

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Bill Paxton month, and Jason, I am not going to

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ask you what your favorite Bill Paxton role is, okay,

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because you and I are going to discuss our top

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ten favorite Bill Paxton roles.

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Yo, stop your grinnin and drop your lenen.

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Hello everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson and this is a film

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by podcast. I am excited to have my friend and

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the co host of the Surely You Can't Be Serious

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podcasts with me today, the one, the only, the Jason Colvin.

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Hey man, I'm so happy to be here.

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Thanks for having me on.

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I have been listening to these episodes and of course

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weighing in and making a list of movies that haven't seen.

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So I'm excited to start to add, like I haven't

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seen Frailty. I'm excited to watch that one.

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Frailty, so good man. I'm excited to hear what you're

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gonna have to say about it, because because you're a dad,

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you're you're a father, and well, I won't say anymore

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because I haven't seen the movie and I want to

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spoil if I come.

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Home and say, we're killing demons, Get in the truck,

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let's go.

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I can only can only imamage you what those Colvin

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childre are gonna be saying to you. That's right, Jason.

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Bill Paxton has one hundred acting credit, and today we're

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going to narrow them down to our top ten favorites.

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I know this is not gonna be easy. I know

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we're gonna be missing some notable ones. Right. Oh.

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You know, Jeff, when you asked me initially to do

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this with you, we talked about doing Next of Ken, Yeah,

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which is Bill Paxton, Liam Neeson, Patrick Swayze, Helen Huntson

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that I think Helen hunts in it, and a very

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young Ben Stiller. I thought I was onto something here

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because when we created Bill Paxton month, I knew that

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we were going to talk about the two films that

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he directed, and then I just wanted to pick two

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somewhat underrated films that he started in. Right, And it

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had been decades since I seen Next to Kin.

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I remember you you called me up to say, hey, man,

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you know he's in this for like two minutes, right,

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I was.

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Like, what he gets killed in like the first five minutes?

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Oh, I completely forgot that. But I'll tell you what.

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I was happy to take that call because there's so

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many Bill Paxton performances that I would have loved to

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have talked about. I don't have the time. But then

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when you get when you get Jason Colvin in the studio,

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then it's like, well, hey, you know you're in for

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We got some good top tens, some top fives, and

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we can have a little bit more fun. So absolutely,

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that is what we are going to do today. Before

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we get going, Jason, I do have something here for you,

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because you know, we always like to talk about a

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couple of facts, maybe throw out a quote, and I

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gotta be honest with you, man, I feel like I'm

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the Bill Paxton biographer at this point because we've been

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doing this all month long. I've been I'm starting to

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run out of interesting facts in trivia. But I have

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got a list, and we've we've talked about a couple

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movies here and there that he would have been in

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or he was almost cast in. But I've been saving

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some of the juicier ones for you. Oh good, okay,

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So I'd love to I'd love to run through these

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real quick, and you know, kind of Colvin cut this

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tell me like, is it a better movie with Bill

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Paxton or is it a worse movie with Bill Paxton.

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I can't imagine there being a worse movie because Bill Paxton.

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But when you think about who ended up with the role,

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maybe there'll be something to it.

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So okay, let's see what we got.

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Let's uh, let's let's let's go to the eighties. I

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know you love the eighties. I do, yes, So let's

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talk about nineteen eighty five, which is it's been forty years.

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You know you guys have been talking about some some

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really excellent movies from nineteen eighty five. Uh, we've talked

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about a couple, but two movies that you and I

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didn't talk about, at least so far. I don't know what.

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I don't know what shirreoy you can't be serious podcast

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has planned for the rest of the year. But Bill

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Paxton was almost cast in Steve Gutenberg's role in Cocoon

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in nineteen eighty five. Really wow, I think that works?

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What do you what's your call there? No, I think

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that does work.

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I think he's everything that Steve Gert Guttenberg is. I mean,

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we've seen him handle romantic leads. Yeah, we've seen him

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handle comedic leads and drama, you know, and that's that

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role is kind of a three parter, you know, it's

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all mixed together right there, So I I could see that.

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I think I think I'm gonna stick with Steve Gutenberg.

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Okay, that's fair. Also, in nineteen eighty five, he had

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he was offered the role of Sergeant Proctor in Police

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Academy two, their first assignment. He actually turned it down

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because his buddy James Cameron offered him a role in

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a movie called Aliens.

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Well, he made the right call there, obviously, But does

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he improve the Police Academy movies playing.

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Proc Dart Yeah, Pundah, significant provement, but not at the

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risk of losing what he does in Aliens. I don't know,

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that's right, no doubt about it. Okay. So we just

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talked about Indian Summer last last week on our show,

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and if you and Jason know you've seen it, I

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know you love the I love it. I love it.

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Yeah, And you know.

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At the beginning of this movie, he we even we

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talked about this how he kind of looks a lot

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like Roddy Piper from They Live you know, he's got

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the he's got the exact same haircut, he's got that

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that the same exact jacket, leather jacket, and it's just

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like you know, and I think I made a comment like, hey,

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this is Bill Paxton. Is is kind of like it's

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it's it's Roddy Piper if he if Roddy Piper stops

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working out every day, right, yeah, I can see that. Coincidentally,

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he was up for the role of Nada in They

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Live and John Carpenter ultimately went with Roddy Piper. Really,

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that's good. I like it amazing. Right, One more for

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the eighties for you, uh huh, I believe you. You

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have hailed this year as the best year in cinema

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for the nineteen Now I'm talking about Neen eighty nine. Huh.

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He was He was considered for the Tom Holt's role

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in Parenthood. I can see that absolutely that it's an improvement. Yeah.

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Tom Hols may have been omidaeis, but Bill Paxton in

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that role, I could definitely see it. I think that's

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that might be an improvement there.

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All Right, get ready for a whirlwind of the nineties,

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because you're not gonna believe what I'm about to tell

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you all right, ok. Nineteen ninety one, he's up for

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the role of Cliffs Accord in The Rocketeer. Oh okay,

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Bill Paxton as the Rocketeer. You know, I don't know

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about the chemistry between him and Jennifer Connley, though, I

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don't think that works.

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That one I'd have to be convinced of. But yeah,

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I'm interested in going to the Alternate Video Store and

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checking that one out.

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Let me just say that, Yeah, the Alternate Universe Video

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Store might might be the place to go for that one. Uh. Listeners,

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if you want more Rocketeer, go back and listen to

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our joke Johnston Rocketeer episode We did that? I think

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that was last season. Nineteen ninety four, he's up for

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Lance in Pulp Fiction, which ultimately went to Eric Stoltz.

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Oh yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, well, Paxton, I mean,

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Pulp Fiction was a great movie, great ensemble cast. I've

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got nothing against Eric Stoltz, but.

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Listen, how often are we gonna steal roll from Eric Stoltzo?

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Let the man have something so uh. Also nineteen ninety four,

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he's up for Michael Keaton's role in a movie called

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The Paper Did you ever see that one?

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Yeah, I did.

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I like that movie.

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I like that energy better with Paxton. No, I'm sticking

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with Keaton in that one.

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Okay. Nineteen ninety five, he was in the running for

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Alan Parrish in a film called Jamanji. Who Uh. He

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ultimately lost that role to Robin Williams.

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That's that's a tough one, but I gotta stick with

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Rob Williams on that one.

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I think I'm going. I think I'm going Paxton well Bill. Yeah,

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he's known for his his hygiens on set and his

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practical jokes and his crazy behavior. I think I think

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we could have had some fun with him in Jamanji. Okay,

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all right. Nineteen ninety six, Joel Schumacher was looking at

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him to play Jake Bergance in A Time to Kill.

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He lost that role to Matthew McConaughey. I think I

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think Schumacher made the better call there.

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That was McConaughey's breakout role. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sticking with

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mcconaughe in that one. Nineteen ninety seven, he's originally cast

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in the lead role for Oliver Stone's U turn Stone

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had wanted Sean Penn to do it. Sean Penn turned

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it down. Paxton took takes it. He backs out of

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the project a week before they start shooting, and fortunately

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for Oliver Stone, pen reconsidered.

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Any story on that.

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I was digging around, but I could not find out

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why he backed out at the last second. But it

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didn't help him too much much because he ultimately he

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went to read for a Stone movie called The Doors.

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He went to read for Jim Morrison. Now, the funny

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story goes that he had just he was he was

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in he was shooting Navy steals at the time. So

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he's got the flat top, he's got the mustache. You know,

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he's playing Dane, you know. And he goes in to

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read Jim Morrison looking like that, and Stone looks at

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him and says, man, I just don't see it.

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Yeah, Plus Valkimer came in and destroyed everybody.

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So absolutely go back and check out our top ten

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favorite Val Kilmer episodes that we recently did. Go back

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and check out our Oliver Stone You Turn episode. I

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feel like I'm gonna be saying that a lot. There's

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we think we covered a lot of bill packs and stuff.

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That's what you have.

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Four hundred episodes in the bank.

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Yeah, we're get there, We're this is this is three

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ninety nine today, woo way to go Big Big three

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ninety nine today with Jason Delvin nineteen ninety eight. Eight.

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He was up for Matthew Broderick's role in Godzilla.

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Push doesn't matter that.

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Yeah, nothing's saving that, So you know, I'm happy that

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he wasn't in it.

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Yes, two thousand and one.

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He was originally cast as Stiffler's dad in American Pie

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Part two. He left due to a scheduling conflict, and

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then they later just cut the role completely. I think

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Chris Pinn replaced him, but then they deleted the whole

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thing regardless. So okay, and then I don't want to

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end on a sad one. But I gotta tell you, Jason,

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I know you're an Avatar fan. I love Avatar. Yes,

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so you probably you probably noticed Avatar The Way of

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Water was dedicated to the memory of Bill Paxton. It

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turns out Cameron had hoped to cast him in all

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the Avatar sequels before his untimely death.

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Yeah, that makes still sense. He and Jim Cameron were

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good buddies.

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Looking back. I mean there's some there's some great stuff.

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That I think we could have seen had he had

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he chosen the role or had the director chosen him.

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Some I think he successfully sidestepped, like like Godzilla. But hey,

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there is one. I just sent this to you so

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I know you haven't had time, okay, But I do

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want to talk really quick about one other project he directed.

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And it's a short film. And I guess you know

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because I know you haven't watched it yet. But in

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twenty eleven he came up with this story and directed

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this nine minute short. I feel like it's like a

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proof of concept trailer for what could have been what

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could be a really awesome movie. It's called Tattoo. It

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stars James Hong, who we know in Love as Lo

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Pan from Big Trouble, Little China, and it also stars

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Paxton friend Powers Booth and I don't want to spoil

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this for you, man, but it's it's just it's the

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way it's shot. It is gorgeous and listeners, I'm gonna

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tell you right now. Just go to go to go

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to YouTube type Bill Paxton Tattoo and it will come up.

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It's a it's a nine minute short and it is

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It is really cool, and I'm telling you, Jason, when

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you see it, you're gonna call me and you're gonna

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be like, dude, this is the movie that we should

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have had, like oh man, Okay, so yeah, I want

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It's very looks a little supernatural, it's a little historical,

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it's a little little a little bit of a thriller,

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a little bit of a mystery, and all this is

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packed into nine minutes. Man, So listeners definitely check out Tattoo,

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a short film directed by Bill Paxton. It's out there awesome.

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All right, Jason, Uh, I'm ready to knock out ten

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of our favorite Bill Paxton performances. Let's talk about these characters.

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I'm gonna start us off with number ten. We actually

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covered this movie. Go back and check go back and

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check out our Vertical Limit episode Martin Campbell director, But

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I'm talking about Elliott Vaughan from the two thousand survival

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thriller Vertical Limit. Come on, Anny, we both know Tom

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isn't going anywhere. You've done your best. You we can't

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Wavese resources not a lost cause, sae thing. Somebody's life

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is not a lost cause.

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It is if you know they can't be saved.

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Why should the three people die?

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If two can live.

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It's this is one of those weird moments where Bill

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Paxson is playing someone you just love. He looks, he

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looks at he's the life of the party, but he's

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also he's the bad guy. He's the villain. Uh we're

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talking fun Texas billionaire turn turns uh turns turns evil?

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Now is evil right right there? I mean you're gonna

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do what you gotta do to survive. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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fantastic performance by Bill. You know, he shows up on

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the mountain and he's you know, they're throwing the party

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on K two. Hey gonna We're do this Texas style,

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and you know, just like man, there's a lot of

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Bill Paxton in that role until he is trapped in

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that crevass and time is running out, the decks is

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running out. You know, they're worried about Pullmonaria demo setting in.

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You got the rescue crew coming to get him, led

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by Scott Glenn, who's got his own reasons for revenge

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against Bill Bill Paxton. You're like, what, why would you

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ever want to attack Bill Paxton? But we find out

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and it's definitely a fun movie. That's that's number ten.

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You know, I enjoy.

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I know he's from Texas originally, and if you're from

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these parts, you can you can hear different dialects.

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Yeah, and you can tell who's.

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Faking it who's not faking it. I told you before,

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Jamie Gertz maybe the worst, oh Midwest, southern Midwest accent

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of all time.

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Yes, you and I even talked about that.

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Yes, And he, of course, you know, grew up in

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North Texas, which is not far from where I'm sitting

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at the moment. And h he just has that natural

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it's not too it's not over the top, but it is.

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You can tell it is a little bit Southern, you know,

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and he just kind of takes it with him.

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And so that works for me.

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So when he pays plays Texas Billionaire or you know,

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older brother Jerk, it just kind of it all works,

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you know it does.

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Who do you got for number nine? Jason?

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So for number nine, let's talk about brock love It

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the treasure hunter from Titanic.

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I have museum trained experts out here making sure that

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these relics are preserved in catalog properly. Take a look

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at this drawing, and we found just today a piece

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of paper that's been underwater for eighty four years and

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my team are able to preserve it intact. Should this

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have remained unseeing at the bottom of the ocean for eternity?

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Yeah, nineteen ninety seven Epic Titanic.

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Can I just say I have been on record and

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Dee likes to make fun of me, I don't care.

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I think that Titanic is one of the greatest movies

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ever made. I think it's a master at the helm

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I think Cameron.

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So I'm obviously a huge James Cameron fan.

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The detail that he went into to make this movie,

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the effort, the money, uh and just the overall quality

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of this movie I think is awesome. And then his

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buddy Bill Paxson is actually the kind of the modern

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day arc that we go to go through. He's the

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one who goes from greedy treasure hunter to Okay, now

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I realize really what happened that night?

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So yeah, this is this is Paxton's fourth of five

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collaborations with James Cameron. I'll tell you what I I'm

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with you. I love James Cameron. I think Titanic is

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a phenomenal movie. Uh, D should be making fun of

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you because it did how many a billion something dollars

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at the at the box office. We all love Titanic.

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I don't care who you are. There's something for everybody

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in that movie. And I don't know about you, man,

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but when I watch it, a part of me is

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always like, Man, I wish we could have had the

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brock love It movie. Yeah, for sure, like like a

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like a prequel, like a see I don't know, just

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a spin off like Trotting. Yeah, yeah, that would have

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been great. Man. You are aware of the the infamous

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PCP incident on set, right, I am.

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I just read up in that a little bit. Yeah,

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somebody spiked the clam chowder. Man who spikes clam chowder

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with PCP.

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It's angel dust, you know, as a as Lewis trading, Yeah,

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in trading places. But Paxton was one of the fifty

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plus people that that that got the full effect of that.

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And I know not from experience, from from research. It

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usually takes a good seven eight days to come off

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a PCP. Paxton said that he felt listless and not

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himself for about two weeks after that. Incredible. Yeah, you know,

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I'll tell you what else is incredible. This wasn't too

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long ago. There was an investigation that was concluded about

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the Titanic, and they proved that if the Titanic had

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hit the iceberg head on instead of veering off and

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sideswiping it, the ship would have been damaged, but it

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would not have sunk, and it would have arrived in

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New York City just two days later than then scheduled.

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You know, one other thing on on Jim Cameron and

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Bill Paxton. I think it's interesting they work together. You know,

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they worked their way up as like prop guys and

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like you know guys who are building. I read a

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story where they were gluing big Mac boxes on walls

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that make it look like a science fiction movie.

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What.

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Yeah, you guys talked about that and on the show

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you could be serious podcast, right, Bill people.

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He like a set design art, you know, artist, and

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that's how he and Cameron became buddies. That'll be on

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the Stars.

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Wow, I just absolutely love I love those kinds of stories. Uh,

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number eight on our list, Jason. I don't have a

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whole lot to say about it, because I said a

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whole lot last week with David and with Amber. I'm

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talking about Jack from Indian Summer.

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Take the pointer out for a little late nights. You know,

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when I was a kid, all I ever wanted to

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do was drive this thing.

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Hey Jack, how can you.

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So listeners? If you didn't listen to that one just

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came out last week. That's a fun episode. We shared

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some of our own camp stories as it were. But Jason,

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I'm gonna shut up. I want to hear your thoughts

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on his performance in Indian Summer.

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I love this movie. It's a sort of an undiscovered gym.

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Even our good buddy James Buckley said he hadn't even

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heard of it, which I can believe. So great fun movie.

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It's like adults go back to camp, but it's not

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dumb stuff. It's not grown ups. It's Yeah, it's a

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more mature look at what would you do if if

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a group of your friends went back twenty years you

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know later and went to camp. And he's kind of

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the moral center of that story, right, he's got this

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he's got this issue.

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With his former camp leader.

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Yeah that they end up working out during the week.

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I don't want to give anything away.

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But yeah, it's a real sweet moment in the movie,

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and it's just such a great movie. And he kind

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of unexpectedly kind of becomes the hero of the story

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at the end.

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Maybe I agree. I absolutely agree. I love this film.

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I love what Bill Paxton did in the film. It's

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one of those, Jason, we talk about how much we

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love coming of age stories, and this is like a

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coming of age in your Twilight era. You know, I

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shouldn't say twice because they're like in their thirties, but

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it's a coming of age story for adults, if that

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makes sense. Yeah, I'm with you, Indian Summer. It's a

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beautiful film. I would recommend that one to anyone, just

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as I would recommend our number seven pick. Talking about

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Morgan Herb from Tombstone.

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You're right, what they got me good to let them

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get to you, brother, you're the one.

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Easy. I don't worry about that now.

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Remember what I said about saying a lot when you're dying. Yeah, yeah,

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think true. I can't see damn thing.

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One of the greatest westerns of all time?

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Who one of the greatest westerns of all time?

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You guys. You guys did an excellent episode on this

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because it was refresh. My member was it was Young Guns,

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Young Guns, Young Guns two versus Tombstone, right, it was

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That's correct. That's a whole lot, that's a whole lot

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of West Well.

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And if you look at these casts, you know, I mean,

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of course the Young Guns cast is unbelievable.

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A man that Tombstone cast with.

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You know, Kurt Russell, You've got Powers Booth, You've got

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Michael Bean, You've got Sam Elliott, You've got Bill Paxton,

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You've got Dana Delaney, my friend Bill, Billy Zane, Jasons Priest.

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The amount of stars in the it was just such

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a laney.

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We could go on, we could this we come a

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Tombstone episode, but we don't need to do that. We

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could just listen what you guys did. But are you

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would you agree that the one thing that Tombstone could

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have used was maybe a little bit more Morgan irp.

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I do think that his presence would have been felt

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throughout the movie. But his death is really what sets

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everything into motion.

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It absolutely does. Uh. The thing is Ken, Yeah, the

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thing is. Rumors persist that before he was fired, the

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film's original director, I think it's Kevin Gerar wrote and

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directed it.

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Uh.

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He had written a much bigger role for Paxton, but

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once George P. Cosmatos came on board, focus kind of

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shifted away from the IRPs and onto Dock and Whitett.

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So interesting, interesting situation. You know, I think that script's

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actually available online if you know where to look.

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So I think we are getting ready to cover another

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movie written by Kevin Jarry and directed by George Cosmatos,

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a little movie called Rambo First Blood Part two.

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I am so excited for this, for this to happen

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on the Sure They Keept Me Serious Podcast Rambo two

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versus Commando. Yes, that is one heck of a slugfest

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from nineteen eighty five. And your co host, your co host,

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and our buddy, Dee Graves has not seen either one

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of them. How how did how did you escape the

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nineteen eighties without seeing those two classics?

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I want to I don't know. And as of this morning,

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I texted him like, have you watched.

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Any these yet? Not yet. I just I can't wait

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to hear his I know it's gonna be amazing thoughts.

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It's gonna blow. That will blow my mind because it

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blows my mind. They hasn't seen him yet. But yeah, listeners,

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don't go back, go forward. Coming soon on the show

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You Can't Me Serious Podcast Rambo two versus commando. So

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it should be three weeks from now. So three weeks

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from now. All right, we're three weeks out. Wait, I

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can't wait for number six. Jason, do you who do

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you got for number six?

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Okay, number six, I think could easily slide up to

465
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the number one spot.

466
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:10.200
It's that good.

467
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:12.680
He steals every scene that he's in.

468
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:15.559
It's pure comedy.

469
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:20.359
Everything he says is hilarious, and it's Simon from True Lies.

470
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:24.039
You can elude us forever, Collos. Wait, you got the

471
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:26.920
wrong guy. My name is Simon. Look, look just let

472
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:27.319
me go.

473
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:28.920
There's no need to kill me.

474
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:31.759
It came told. Your career is an international terrorist has

475
00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:32.559
been well documented.

476
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:36.000
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I sell cars, that's all.

477
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:39.319
Come on, I'm not a terrorist.

478
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:41.480
I'm actually a complete coward.

479
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.599
If I ever saw God, I don't no, no, please, don't, don't. Don't.

480
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.960
Don't kill me. I'm not a spy. I have to

481
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:53.599
lie to women to get laid, and I don't score much.

482
00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:56.519
I got a little dick. It's pathetic.

483
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:04.240
Oh oh oh god, oh worre spy himself.

484
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:11.319
Uh. Paxton's third of five collaborations with James Cameron, and

485
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:15.039
one of the funniest, if not the funniest. I think

486
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.880
I think this is Amber Lewis. Uh she this was

487
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:22.880
her pick for her favorite Bill Paxton role. Uh. She,

488
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:24.599
she's got a thing for Simon Man. She loves she

489
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:29.119
loves him, but he's not He is hilarious because he is.

490
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.480
He's like when you see him with with Jamie Jamie Lee,

491
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.720
you buy into it, like this guy, Like where was

492
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:38.240
Bill Paxton the super Spy? We missed out on that,

493
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:48.079
But when he's riding shotgun with Arnie himself, Yeah, uh,

494
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.799
just a wonderful role. It's one of those things where

495
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:56.960
we've seen him play a play a less than than

496
00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:01.559
a moral guy. But Simon takes the cake.

497
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.960
Man, he's so good. You know, when he's handing her

498
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.440
the briefcase, you know, he has this elaborate scam where

499
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:09.240
he's trying to get her in bed with him. Yeah,

500
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.720
he offers him a little bit of excitement, hoping to

501
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.799
you know, get him in bed, and he manages to

502
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:21.000
pull off the amazing I'm over the top, but I'm

503
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.880
trying to act like I'm not over the top, and

504
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.640
yet it's funny in the movie, you know, Yeah, telling

505
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.079
her that this is a briefcase, hold this for me.

506
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.359
I'll be back for it. You know, when he is

507
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:41.519
describing Jimmy Lee's body to Arnold and he's being incredibly crass.

508
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.279
I love that. It's a great moment for Cameron where

509
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.720
you watch Arnold just smash his face with one punch

510
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:51.839
and then you're like, well, did he just kill this guy?

511
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:53.960
And then it's like but then you know, you're just

512
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.640
an Arnold ted. You know, we're right back to that

513
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:02.039
obnoxious laughter of Simon. So fantastic pick. Yeah, you're right, man,

514
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:05.319
this is our number six, but it is easily could

515
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:07.319
have been to the top. But again, we're not really

516
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.839
ranking these per se. It's just it's our ten favorites.

517
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:13.160
We're just yeah, did you know that Simon the character

518
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:16.000
almost got his own spin off TV series?

519
00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:17.480
You what?

520
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:18.319
Yes?

521
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.559
Why why didn't we get that? Packs time TV? Guy?

522
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:23.720
Would you watch that show?

523
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:28.200
I would have watched that every single week. That would

524
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:29.680
have been that would I wouldn't have even let that

525
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:31.400
pile up and binge watch it. I'd be like, no,

526
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:33.039
I gotta see what's what Simon's up to.

527
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.400
That character was so good. I would have watched it

528
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:36.960
every week.

529
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.960
Well, speaking of TV. Can we take a quick break

530
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:41.559
from our top ten and talk? I just want to.

531
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.160
I got a couple memorable Bill Paxton TV appearances that

532
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.839
I'd love to talk about for a moment. Awesome. Going

533
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.680
back to nineteen eighty six, Jason, he has a guest

534
00:29:52.720 --> 00:30:06.200
starring role on one of our favorite television shows. You

535
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:07.680
can hear that music right now, you know what I'm

536
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:14.039
talking about, Miami Vice. Let's see season three, episode ten

537
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.279
of an episode called street Wise. He plays an undercover

538
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:23.000
vice cop named Vic Romano, who you know, falls for

539
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.200
the hooker with the heart of gold. We get mixed

540
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.680
up with some cocaine. We got the bad guy played

541
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:37.039
by it equally just as young Wesley Snipes, who is

542
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:42.680
he's pretty much playing Nino Brown from from New jack City. Yeah,

543
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:44.599
but this seems I mean this is this is the

544
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:50.079
same year he did Wildcats, so he's like nineteen twenty yeah, yeah,

545
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:53.920
you know, very young. Yeah, but I'll tell you what

546
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:57.720
Paxton is is pretty damn good as this. You know,

547
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.880
he's he's working vice, he's undercovery. You know, Crockett and

548
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.799
Tubs bust him and then you know they're like, hey,

549
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.359
you know, you know Crockett's like, you can't see the line, Pal,

550
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.039
you you're way past it, you know, you know because

551
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.240
Bill Patson is like, I knew how to walk the line.

552
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.119
And you know, it's like one of those great ones

553
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.519
where Sonny's trying to give advice to the young vice cup.

554
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:20.039
You know, this is season three, so he's got the

555
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:23.759
he's Don Johnson has like the Spike haircut. Yes, you know,

556
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:28.920
the pastels are in full effect, you know, minmy vice

557
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.039
for you know, anyone that loves that show, you've got

558
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:36.160
to get. I cannot recommend the Blu Ray Complete series enough.

559
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.119
It looks gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous.

560
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.200
What time am I coming over, Pal to watch this?

561
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:47.240
You've got an all access pass? Man, come on? So

562
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:49.720
moving on? Uh, you and I were talking. I had

563
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:51.920
to tell I told you about this earlier, uh, nineteen

564
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.960
ninety three. He does a he does a tales from

565
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:57.160
the Crypt episode. Yeah, it's called people who Live in

566
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.880
Brass Hearses. So I'll tell right now, if you want

567
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:03.319
to watch my advice, the only way you're gonna get

568
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:07.440
it is to order, you know, the physical media. But

569
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.880
you can watch the tell Us from the Crypt episode

570
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.359
that we're talking about it's on YouTube. Just you know,

571
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.519
Tells from the Crypt Bill Paxton, It'll pop up, I

572
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.519
promise you. He co stars with Brad Duraffe. You recognize

573
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:21.160
that name.

574
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.400
Well, just because you and I were talking about it

575
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.039
this afternoon, but otherwise I would not have recognized that name.

576
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.000
This is amazing actor. You know he's in He played

577
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.079
Grimaud Worm Tongue and Lord of the Rings. He was

578
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:34.440
in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. He played a

579
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.799
messed up kid named Billy with Jack Nicholson. But a

580
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:39.799
lot of everyone knows him. He's famous. He's the voice

581
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:44.519
of Chucky. This is a wickedly funny story about murder,

582
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:50.880
revenge and ice cream. Yeah. Interesting, interesting, Yeah, I'll say

583
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.160
no more. But if you want to see uh Bill

584
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.839
Paxton playing Billy de Luca and Tells from the Crypt,

585
00:32:57.839 --> 00:32:59.839
that's It's definitely a fun one for all the Paxton fans.

586
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:03.839
I'd recommend it. Jason. I know you've probably seen this

587
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.559
next episode I'm about to talk about one hundred times

588
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:11.240
because you and I are two of the biggest Fraser fans. Yeah,

589
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:15.240
and two thousand and three. He's in Season ten, episode

590
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.880
twenty three, a Fraser. This was analyzed kiss. This was

591
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.279
the time. You and I aren't really keen on this

592
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.720
era of Fraser because he's he's he's involved with Julia,

593
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:29.799
who we couldn't stand. But Bill Paxton plays one of

594
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:33.799
the callers at the beginning of the show, Yeah, playing

595
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:37.799
a guy named Ernie, and you know, he takes the

596
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.559
call and you know, I'm Ernie. I'm angry at my dog.

597
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:44.240
You know, he's he's trying to hide the Texas axet,

598
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.160
but it's still there, right, you know, Fraser attempts to

599
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.279
explain that, you know, when people are angry with their pets,

600
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.640
they're actually angry at themselves for something. So Ernie, why

601
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.400
are you angry at the dog? And then you know

602
00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:58.759
Bill Paxson's like he keeps telling me to take my

603
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:02.240
foil hat off. You know, Fraser roll eye roll, and

604
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:06.559
then you know, next caller. But it's it's weird because

605
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.440
like when you when you're watching Fraser, you never stop

606
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:13.519
and think about the voices behind all these these these callers.

607
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:18.519
But they're all noteworthy in some regard, right, Yeah.

608
00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:22.880
I think my favorite one is when Matthew Broderick calls

609
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.599
in and he's working at a convenience store, and he

610
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:30.039
said that the the me and the reflection is doing

611
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:36.119
things that I don't approve of. Yes, yeah, but those guys.

612
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:38.159
Every time that you have a call into the Fraser

613
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.199
Radio show, it's somebody famous.

614
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.039
Yeah. Now one more TV memorable TV, and I listen,

615
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.920
I'm passing over Big Love in Hatfield McCoy's because that

616
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:52.440
was prestige. Everyone knows, you know that he was part

617
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:53.920
of that. I'm kind of going for stuff that maybe

618
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:57.280
people don't know. And that's why I want to end

619
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:02.280
twenty fourteen season one. He did like six episodes. He

620
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:05.960
played a guy named John Garrett on Marvel's Agents of Shield.

621
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:10.480
Oh wow, interesting how he got this. So back in

622
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:14.119
twenty thirteen, the year before, he's in a movie called

623
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.320
Two Guns with Mark Wahlberg and Denzel Washington. And this

624
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.840
is at a point where Bill had kind of felt

625
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.159
like his career had stalled a little bit. You know,

626
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.639
he wasn't getting much work. So he requests to be

627
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.760
included on the promotional tour for Two Guns and it

628
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.400
pays off because he gets hired four Agents of Shield

629
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.000
on that promotional tour. And then this also leads to

630
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.920
his role in Edge of Tomorrow, the Tom Cruise movie.

631
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.679
It's got like, oddly enough, doing a promotional tour for

632
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:49.960
a movie leads to a minor resurgence. So I always

633
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.679
think that's pretty cool. Good for him. I mean, he's

634
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.119
a hard working guy, you know, get out there. He

635
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:59.320
was I sold a little bit. Yeah. Fun fact his

636
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:03.679
son played a younger version of his character in the

637
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.400
last season of Agents of Shields. Oh cool. I thought

638
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.559
that was kind of cool. Jason. I know we got

639
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.480
to get back to our top ten, but before we do,

640
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.079
let's take a quick break and when we get back,

641
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:22.719
we'll finish up this top ten. Welcome back. Jason Covin

642
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.280
from the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast is with

643
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.440
us today. We are talking about our top ten favorite,

644
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.119
Bill Paxton rolls. Jason. We've talked about some television work.

645
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.880
We've talked about a lot of amazing stuff that Bill

646
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:43.119
Paxton almost did, and we have worked halfway through our list.

647
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.519
I want to jump back in with number five. You

648
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:49.800
talked about that. You mentioned this movie earlier. You haven't

649
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.679
seen it yet. I know we're anxiously waiting to hear

650
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.360
the Colvin opinion of this one. This is a movie

651
00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:00.559
called Frailty, which we covered at the beginning of this month.

652
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:06.519
It's Bill Paxton's feature film directorial debut, and he plays

653
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:15.159
the dad.

654
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.920
That's a demon son.

655
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:17.599
Money in here.

656
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:26.199
Boys, it's all right, don't please don't.

657
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:32.079
If I could spare you this, I would, but we

658
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:35.480
are God's servants and his will must be served.

659
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:38.519
I'm just gonna be careful here. I don't want to

660
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.199
spoil anything, Jason, because you haven't seen it, and I

661
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:43.880
know we talked about it already. Uh, for our listeners

662
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:45.679
that are that already heard that one, if you haven't

663
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.920
go back listened to Amber and I had a pretty

664
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:53.000
interesting conversation about this one because she had some she

665
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:56.400
had some choice thoughts about this this movie, so.

666
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:00.519
You know it was Amber's opinion really was the clincher

667
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:05.639
for me on I've got to see this movie because clearly,

668
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.199
I think you were a fan from the from the

669
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:11.480
get go, right For her to be so like adamantly

670
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:14.800
against it and then to see the end and then

671
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.239
say I've got to go back and rewatch it, yep,

672
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:21.639
that to me is a great reason because clearly there's

673
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:25.760
something amazing that happened there I was worth seeing. So yeah,

674
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:27.400
I have not watched it yet, but I'm excited to

675
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:28.000
check it out.

676
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:33.880
This film is fantastic. Check it out. Moving on our

677
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:38.039
number four Pick and Jason, I know you recently you

678
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:40.599
and d had a conversation about this one. Who do

679
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:41.000
you got?

680
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:45.280
Absolutely this is Chet Donnelly the biggest But what of

681
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.039
all from Weird Science?

682
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:58.880
The boozzounds return? Yeah, Hi, girls, feeling kind of queasy?

683
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:07.400
How about a nice creazy pork sandwich served in a dirty.

684
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:14.000
Ash tray jet Jet. My name is Chet, and I

685
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:19.159
didn't think it was a whales honey shit from Weird Science.

686
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.480
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. I absolutely

687
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.519
loved the recent two part of that you indeed did.

688
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:33.239
This was a Weird Science against real genius geeks versus geniuses.

689
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.920
You guys crush this woman, I tell you, like I

690
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.199
own Weird Science. I've always I think I've had it

691
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:42.960
from like VHS to DVD to Blu ray. It was

692
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.400
listening to you guys talk about real genius though. That

693
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:49.960
reminded me. Hey, wait a minute, I liked that movie

694
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.199
a lot, but I haven't seen it in like probably

695
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:56.199
twenty plus years. Oh really, Okay, Yeah, so just based

696
00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:02.719
off of your commentary. I hit order. It arrived today actually,

697
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.559
so I got I got my four k uh real genius.

698
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.519
I'll be loading that into the Blu ray player here

699
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:11.559
later this evening. And I have you to thank for that,

700
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:13.559
you and U and D because I love you guys.

701
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.199
Had to say thank you, ye.

702
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:19.800
Chet, just so John Hughes let him off the leash

703
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.760
and just said, hey, go for it. Improv insult your

704
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:26.119
brother being the biggest turd you could possibly be to

705
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.000
you know, Elan Mitchell Smith, and he does things like

706
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:33.800
I mean even just little things like throwing eggs against

707
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:36.800
the ceiling and catching that looks pretty good.

708
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:44.400
Make yourself. Uh you guys, I don't. I'm not gonna.

709
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.639
I'm not gonna spoil it because I'd rather listeners hear

710
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:49.400
it from you. But you guys had a pretty cool

711
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:54.039
story on the creation of of Chet the turd monster

712
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:56.559
and how that came to be. I love that. I

713
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:58.320
was cracking up when you guys are talking about that,

714
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.920
So thank you. Yes from where it's science the ultimate

715
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:07.800
evil big brother. I'm gonna say this, so go on

716
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:11.440
a limit chat. Yeah yeah, he's said that alone. But

717
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.559
if there's one thing you can say about Chet on

718
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:21.119
his behalf. He respects his elders, he does. He is

719
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:26.119
very upset when he sees Nanny and Grampy in the closet.

720
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:27.760
You know, boy, you.

721
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.440
Have any idea how just respectful?

722
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.920
That is? What are they doing in here? So you know,

723
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.519
for all his for all his faults, Chet at least

724
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.880
respects and loves his grandparents. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

725
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:44.920
I'm gonna close the book on Chet with that, Let's

726
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:48.679
move on to number three. Uh. And I know people

727
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.480
are like, at what point are you gonna say this?

728
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:59.320
This role talking about Bill Harding? Jesus, Joe, I can't

729
00:41:59.360 --> 00:41:59.920
you just forget?

730
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.840
If you don't just say it, Okay, you'll never know when's.

731
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:04.440
It gonna be enough?

732
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:04.960
Huh?

733
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:06.960
How close you have to get and talk to me?

734
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:09.159
Kill things go wrong?

735
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:14.559
You can't explain it, you can't predict it. Killing yourself

736
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:18.880
won't bring your dad back. Sorry he died, but it

737
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:19.880
was a long time ago.

738
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:22.239
Gotta move on.

739
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:24.559
Stop living in.

740
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:26.320
The past and look at what you got right in

741
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:34.159
front of you. What do you say me? Joe the

742
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:38.840
Extreme from nineteen ninety six Twister Jason, We did a

743
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.920
limited series called nineteen ninety six. You I was lucky

744
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:47.920
enough you joined me to cover our Twister episode. So

745
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:50.480
I feel like a broken record, But I'm gonna say,

746
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.880
go back and check out our episode that Jason guest

747
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:57.519
co hosted with me. We did. We talked about Twister,

748
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.800
and you know, you talked about Jamie gertz accent earlier.

749
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:03.760
Which it's hard for me to say any ill thing

750
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:05.960
about Jimmie Gertz because I love her. She's the queen,

751
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.440
she one of the queens of nineteen eighty six. But

752
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:12.360
that accent, man, it's terrible. It's awful.

753
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:14.159
That haircut, that accent.

754
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:15.920
I don't know what happened there.

755
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:17.840
What is worse the haircut of the accent.

756
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.280
It's hard to tell the accent, but I'm gonna say it.

757
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.719
You know, luking for her.

758
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:25.960
She's got a billion dollars in the bank, so you know,

759
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:29.719
she's literally the richest actress in the world.

760
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:30.840
That can't be right.

761
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:32.480
She is the richest.

762
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:33.440
Why would she be.

763
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.840
The richest because she married a billionaire? Oh local, here

764
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:38.360
you have it, Okay, sit here.

765
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:43.920
I'm thinking hold on the Lost Boys, Quicksilver Crossroads, Quicksilver

766
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:49.840
poler Babies, you know, right, well, something's not adding up here. Yeah,

767
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:54.639
marry a billionaire. That'll do it. Okay, we didn't really

768
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:57.039
talk about this on the on the episode, but I

769
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:00.320
caught this. Helen Hunt was doing an interview talking about Twister,

770
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:05.119
and they asked her about working with Bill and she said,

771
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:08.480
and I quote, I think we immediately had the chemistry.

772
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:12.159
There's this old trope that is true. Sometimes you have

773
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.320
chemistry with someone and you love everything they say and

774
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:18.119
you want to jump in their arms. And other times

775
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:21.320
they drive you crazy, and that's another kind of chemistry.

776
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:25.280
So I think we both realized that was what was

777
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:28.519
asked of us in this and she went on to

778
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.760
to kind of compare their performance their chemistry to that

779
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.159
of Carry Grant and Catherine Hepburn, which I think is

780
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:34.960
absolutely sweet.

781
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:36.519
Yeah, I love it now.

782
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.880
That movie was of course big around here because it's

783
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.280
one of the few movies that was shot in my town.

784
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.159
Say you're on location with the Jason Golvin.

785
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:45.920
I know, I think I called you about this time

786
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.880
last year. I'm like, Hey, I'm at the I'm at

787
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:52.360
the pickup station. But you're right, they do have chemistry.

788
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.559
When I watched Next of Ken last week, she's with

789
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.719
Patrick Swayze and his brother is Bill Paxton. Yea, and

790
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:01.239
I I felt this weird betrayal.

791
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.159
I'm like that, yeah, you wrong along with him?

792
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:09.280
Yeah yeah, because their chemistry is so good in Twister Twister, Yeah,

793
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:10.360
their chemistry is amazing.

794
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:14.960
Amber Lewis last week she called this a rom com

795
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:19.159
with tornadoes. She's talking about how they how they how

796
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.000
they interact with each other. So you know, rom com

797
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.639
with tornadoes. Check out wrong, She's not wrong. Well, if

798
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:27.639
Jason Policas is not wrong, you live there, You've you've

799
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.119
faced down many a F four F five, so I

800
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.440
would I would believe you over just about anybody.

801
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:35.480
So yeah, In fact, this podcast we had to push

802
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:40.199
because tornadoes were ramping up. I was like, I don't know, Yeah, we're.

803
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.679
Daylight, and You're like, hey, I might be I might

804
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:44.320
be getting in the truck. And Jason won down here.

805
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:50.639
I'm sure, all right, Jason uh Our Number two pick

806
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:56.639
one of my absolute favorite Bill Paxton performances from one

807
00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:01.440
of my absolute favorite vampire films, talking about his role

808
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:15.639
as Severn from nineteen eighty seven's Near Dark, Its Finger

809
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:16.639
looking good.

810
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:21.000
You know, I need to watch this movie. I haven't

811
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:22.440
seen this movie in decades.

812
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:26.079
Ah, man, you're missing out. I mean you didn't miss

813
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.280
out because you saw it, but yeah, you need to

814
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:29.199
tune back in. Man.

815
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.920
I know, well it said in Oklahoma number one, yep,

816
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:37.360
and number two it's got Bishop and Vasquez from Aliens

817
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:37.599
in there.

818
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:41.239
Yeah, yeah, this is I mean, you know we talked

819
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:45.079
about what listeners go back and check out our Cathain

820
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:48.320
Bigelow Near Dark episode right because we covered this actually

821
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:50.519
this was season one. I think we covered this. But

822
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:55.280
it's amazing because Catherin Bigelow, James Cameron, they're kind of

823
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:57.920
an item at this point. Yeah, she's looking to cast

824
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.679
this and he's like, hey, you should check out I

825
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.840
got this cash from Aliens. That's awesome. They already are

826
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:07.480
a family. Hire them. And she goes on to hire

827
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:13.920
Bill Paxton, Jeanette Goldstein, Lance Hendrickson, Michael Bean was supposed

828
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.679
to join them. He did not care for the script,

829
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:22.480
so as it Yeah, it's I mean, you know, I mean,

830
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:24.400
you can't have everyone from Aliens show up in the

831
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:27.239
vampire movie, but it would have been kind of cool.

832
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:31.199
But absolutely love this one. Like I said, Severn is

833
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.440
one of the more fun vampires you'll see on screen.

834
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.880
And there's a lot of Bill Paxton's personality in this character.

835
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:40.400
And Jason, I know it's been a long time since

836
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:42.239
you've seen it, but when you watch it next time,

837
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.320
you que this subject can be like, holy crap, he's

838
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:48.559
just playing Bill Paxton, only he's eating people because he's

839
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:53.440
a vampire, you know. Ever, the practical joker, Bill decided

840
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.239
to have some fun with the railroad workers at a

841
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.679
nearby depot where the train stop would would every night.

842
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:02.320
This frame would would cause production delays because it would

843
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.000
roll in, you know, the horns and making all the noise.

844
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:09.840
So one night he's in full makeup with the blood

845
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.480
and the gore. Half his face is missing. Yeah, he

846
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.519
walks up to one of the engineers and says, hey, man,

847
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:20.400
there's been an accident and if you and if you

848
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:22.599
think I'm bad, where do you see the other guy?

849
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.079
No confirmation on whether that guy needed a clean pair

850
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:30.079
of underwear after that. But if you've seen, if you've

851
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:33.400
seen Severn's look, he's his face.

852
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:35.400
Yeah.

853
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:39.679
Oh, he's absolutely gory and terrifying, but he's having so

854
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.880
much fun in this movie. I absolutely love this this performance. Uh,

855
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.679
for me, it was a it was hard not to

856
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.400
make it the number one performance. But there's one more

857
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:51.440
that we got to talk about, and I'm sure our

858
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.599
listeners have already guessed who it's gonna be. But before

859
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:57.440
we get to that one, Jason, I'm on record, you

860
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.199
know I'm not a big fan of honorable mentions. If

861
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.599
you're gonna do a top ten, I want to hear ten. Right,

862
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:05.679
it's the top five. I want to hear. I want

863
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:07.159
to hear five. I don't want to hear five and

864
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:11.519
then like nineteen honorable mentions. That's cheating. But I would

865
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:15.599
be remiss if I did not offer you the opportunity

866
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.679
for some Honora mentions because you're the guest, and I

867
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:21.599
know you love your honorable mention. So let me ask

868
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:25.679
you what didn't make the top ten for you?

869
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:30.199
So the two movies that I enjoy him in that

870
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.599
didn't make the top ten for me, I'm just gonna

871
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:36.079
give you two. But his role as Fred Hayes in

872
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.840
Apollo thirteen, I thought it was Fred Hayes Show. Yeah,

873
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:43.920
And that's an awesome movie. It's an ensemble cast. He's

874
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:45.840
not the lead. I mean, Tom Hanks is clearly the

875
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.480
lead in that, so he can move seamlessly into in

876
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:54.719
and out of lead role, backup role, romance, comedy action. Yep,

877
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:58.360
so that one, and then of course he is Master

878
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:04.000
Sergeant fair All in Edge of Tomorrow to Cruise. I

879
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.079
don't think that movie is appreciated enough. I think that

880
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:08.639
movie is amazing.

881
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:11.400
I don't understand why we don't have three of them already.

882
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:16.239
And I mean you we got like what eight mission

883
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:20.320
Impossibles now right, I got sneak preview passes to see

884
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:24.400
the new one later tonight, and you know, but still like,

885
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:28.480
take a break, go back to Edge of Tomorrow. It

886
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.920
was awesome, absolutely awesome. That's a good pick man. I'm

887
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:34.920
a I'm gonna go against grain here. I'm gonna offer

888
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:38.280
one for you. Okay, all right, Jason. I know you

889
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:43.440
are not the biggest fan of the horror genre, but

890
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.679
I also know you're a completist and you are on

891
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:51.039
a quest to see and possibly own all of the

892
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:54.000
catalog of films from the nineteen eighties. I am that's

893
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.800
my quest, So I'm gonna offer you an honorable mention.

894
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:02.760
Bill Paxton plays character named Paul Andrews in the nineteen

895
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:08.719
eighty two film called Mortuary, whoa I'm sure you haven't.

896
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:11.639
Eighty two have you seen You haven't seen this? Have you? No?

897
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:15.760
I don't know. Okay, Okay, you've seen Bill Paxson get

898
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:21.159
crazy in some of his roles. Right in Mortuary, you

899
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:26.119
see him go batshit crazy. This is it's a campy,

900
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:32.639
fun horror film. He plays this creepy and it's eighty two,

901
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:35.280
so he's he's he's very young, obviously, but he plays

902
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:39.920
this creepy mortician son who's the embalmer at this funeral house.

903
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.519
And he's kind of got a thing for this girl

904
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:48.760
who he obsesses over, and the obsession kind of leads

905
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:50.320
that he kind of goes. He takes he takes a

906
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.000
little too far. I Oh. By the way, his dad,

907
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:56.039
aside from owning the funeral home, also is like the

908
00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:59.960
leader of this cult. And there's there's some there's a

909
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.480
crazy shit happening. But Bill Paxton, I'll tell you what.

910
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:05.360
Just just go on YouTube and just pull up the

911
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.039
trailer and watch it and you'll be like, I gotta

912
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:12.320
watch this right now, right now. It's streaming free on

913
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:16.880
Prime by the way, so it's right there for you. Okay,

914
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:23.760
Bill Paxton, absolutely nutty in Mortuary. I would definitely horror

915
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:26.079
fans are gonna love it. But I think Bill Paxton

916
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:28.039
fans like, if you just love Bill Paxton, I think

917
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:30.679
you'd enjoy it, especially if you haven't seen it. So, okay,

918
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:32.480
I'll check it out. I'm going I'll give you an

919
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:34.800
on ever mention. But I think it's time to talk

920
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.840
about the number one role. Obviously, Jason and we are talking.

921
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:43.800
About Private Hudson from Aliens movement.

922
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:45.039
What's position?

923
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:51.440
I can't look in talk to me, hot, sudh.

924
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:57.360
Multiple signals, they're clothing. I got signals.

925
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.719
I got readings in front end behind where man, I

926
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:01.400
don't see ship.

927
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:03.559
He's right, there's nothing back here.

928
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:06.480
Look, I'm telling you there's something moving and it ain't.

929
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:11.360
Us, Private first Class William L. Hudson.

930
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:14.039
I think it's interesting you know his first name, because

931
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:15.719
nobody ever mentions it in the movie. They just call

932
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:16.280
him Hudson.

933
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:23.519
I'm an alien here, Hudson. Yeah, look over my eye, Hudson, sir.

934
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:28.159
He's yeah, can we stand up? I could quote that

935
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:31.840
movie nonsense? Right? Yeah? We h That should that should

936
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:33.599
be an episode. That should be a crossover episode where

937
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:36.239
we just someone just reads the first line and just

938
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.400
see like you know, like a like a game of catch,

939
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.639
who drops the ball between like us and you guys

940
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:45.719
and the all the All eighties Movies podcast, you know,

941
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:48.519
uh Docing Base seventy seven.

942
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:52.840
Yeah, seventh but John, Yeah the.

943
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:54.039
List seventeen hours.

944
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:56.199
You canna come in here, You can come in here

945
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:56.960
and Wastes.

946
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:00.000
You put her in jrs.

947
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:02.280
Aren't you won't you put her in charge?

948
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:04.800
You know? For all the for all the flak he

949
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:08.760
gets about being a whiner and being a complainer, you

950
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:11.760
got ad Mitt Hudson. He he picks it up at

951
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:13.800
the end. He takes care business, He does his job,

952
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:17.119
He secures the perimeter, and he goes out with a bang.

953
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:18.239
So I did.

954
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:19.400
Guy's a hero's death.

955
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:21.400
You know, he does die here his death this was

956
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:24.480
This was the second of the five collaborations with James

957
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:27.559
Cameron and I dare say his best man.

958
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:30.039
You keep teasing this up, but I keep and every

959
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:31.400
time you say it in my head, I'm like, Okay,

960
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:37.920
let's see here. Terminator yep, Aliens yep, Titanic, True Lies yep.

961
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:47.280
Uh one more and you're not gonna get it. Oh okay, Listeners,

962
00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:50.360
go back and check out Proud episode We actually did

963
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:50.679
that one.

964
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:52.840
That was a fun episode. That was a fun episode.

965
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:58.079
No, he he actually he did the narration for Ghosts

966
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:00.760
of the Abyss with James Cameron. He was, oh, okay,

967
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:04.239
yeah he uh you know where the the Submarine movie

968
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:07.519
or whatever. I've seen it. It's good. Yeah, good, he was.

969
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:09.639
They were actually down there like the day like he

970
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:12.639
tells a story. I'm not gonna paraphrase it because I

971
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.480
don't I can't remember at all, but I do know

972
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:16.320
that they were down there shooting the day of nine

973
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:19.400
to eleven, and he like in an interview he talked

974
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.679
about what that that the the impact that had on him,

975
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:24.599
Like they come up and they're like, hey, what's been

976
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.719
going on? And yeah, I think you know, it's a

977
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:32.480
normal day. You go underwater for fifteen twenty hours. Yeah yeah,

978
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:34.760
and then you pop back up and the world has turned,

979
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:36.679
like the world's changed. Change.

980
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:38.639
So yeah, where you've been bombing of the ocean?

981
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:43.920
Yeah, exactly, I have. Yeah. Uh, I'm gonna say it

982
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.639
one more time because listen, it's we're talking about aliens.

983
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:49.679
So who hasn't thought we've all had our turn? Right,

984
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:55.559
So listeners, go back, check out check out our aliens

985
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:58.800
episode from our limited series nineteen eighty six, And while

986
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.239
you're at it, go and check out the show you

987
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:05.880
Can't Be Serious podcast. They did an awesome Alien versus

988
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:10.199
Aliens two parter with you. What's it? What was that like?

989
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:13.840
Your second season? Maybe twenty twenty one, So yeah, second season.

990
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:16.840
There you go. I'm a big Shirley fan. You can tell.

991
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:18.880
I collect the whole set.

992
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.440
So hey, I was spiking the football too while you're

993
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:24.880
right there. You know, your big question was what's the

994
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:26.199
best movie in nineteen eighty six?

995
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:29.000
And for me, it's always going to be Aliens. So

996
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:33.320
I listen. I hate to say this while we're talking

997
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:36.280
about Bill Paxton because while pretty much the whole world

998
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.119
agrees with you that Aliens is the best film on

999
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:43.360
nineteen eighty six, I was standing out there alone, well

1000
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:45.960
not alone, I had my I had my my, my friend,

1001
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:49.280
my best friend, Bradkzo standing next to me. We we

1002
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:51.280
had said Big Trouble Little China was the best film

1003
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.199
of nineteen eighty six, and we had we had some

1004
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:56.159
good reasons, but you know, that's one of those arguments,

1005
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:58.480
like I'm happy to win or lose because we're talking

1006
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:01.039
about Aliens. We're talking about Big Trouble, Little China. We're

1007
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:04.760
talking about James Cameron, We're talking about John Carpenter. Everybody

1008
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:06.360
wins in a conversation like that.

1009
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.039
I know it's either that or under the Cherry Moon, right,

1010
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:09.840
I mean, it's.

1011
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:15.719
Somewhere. Dave and Scott just got a chill run up

1012
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:19.039
their spine because they're gonna do our They're gonna return

1013
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:22.119
to Cherry Moon later this summer. We got some fun planned.

1014
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:24.599
When I say that that may be the episode I

1015
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:30.199
look forward to the most, I can't. I can't overemphasize

1016
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.360
the excitement that I have for that episode.

1017
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:35.280
Man, we were talking about it. We just got back

1018
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.519
from Detroit. We went to the Motor City Comic Con,

1019
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:43.800
and to hear Dave begrudgingly talk about having to do this,

1020
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:49.000
I mean he said, like Luke complained about not going

1021
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:51.199
to getting to go to Tashi Station. He's just he's

1022
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:54.159
not looking forward to it. And I said, I'm sorry,

1023
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:57.880
but this is what people want. He's like, nobody wants this.

1024
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:01.599
You want this. I said, so you're here. You heard

1025
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:04.119
it here first, Dave, if you're listening, Jason Colevin wants this.

1026
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.000
So he's looking forward to it, Patreon member Jason Colin.

1027
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:12.719
Yes, the celebrity of Oklahoma. Patreon member Jason Covin is

1028
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.039
looking forward to it. Wondering what our listeners are looking

1029
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.440
forward to. I want to know what do you guys

1030
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:20.559
think of our picks for these Bill Paxston rolls. Do

1031
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.760
we discuss your favorite one? You can let us know

1032
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:25.760
on social media. You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, and x.

1033
00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:28.199
You can check out a Film by Podcast dot com

1034
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:31.360
for all the episodes and a lot of other fun

1035
00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:33.360
stuff we've been we've been doing. We've been tinkering with

1036
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:36.039
that website. We've been having some fun stuff pop up

1037
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:38.840
on there, so check that out. You can write to

1038
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:41.280
us at a Film by Podcast at gmail dot com

1039
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.480
with your questions, comments and concerns. I'll tell you right

1040
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.079
now you do that, we will read your response on

1041
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:49.079
the show. We'll send you some a film by swag

1042
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:54.480
and Uh, that's how we do that, Jason, I gotta

1043
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:56.400
be honest, man, It's I know we talk all the time,

1044
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:58.400
but it has been too long since we were talking

1045
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:03.159
on a podcast. Uh, movies or directors or actors and

1046
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:05.000
actresses that we love. So I'm glad that you were

1047
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.760
here today. Cannot thank you enough for it. Man, hey Man,

1048
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:08.559
thanks for having me on.

1049
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:11.199
I appreciate you, and you are getting ready to do

1050
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:13.480
me the favor here in just a month or so,

1051
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.440
and we're gonna have you on the Shirley Podcast with us,

1052
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.159
and we're gonna be talking Superman Returns versus Batman and

1053
00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:24.000
Robin What the heck happened to these movies?

1054
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:28.480
I listen at this point, I feel like I have

1055
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:33.199
to do what the heck happened? You know, I've I've

1056
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:34.679
hit every one of them so far, and I don't

1057
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:36.960
want to miss any And when you guys offer me

1058
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.039
a chance, like I think earlier this year, you're like,

1059
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:42.559
how do you feel about talking about Superman or Batman?

1060
00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:46.079
I'm like, dude, are you serious? And then you told me.

1061
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:49.639
I was like, okay, well, different conversation. But I've been there, man,

1062
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:53.039
I'm ready. I'm ready. But Jason, I know that's coming

1063
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:55.800
up later this year. But you guys have a new

1064
00:59:55.800 --> 01:00:00.599
episode arriving tomorrow, Yeah, on Tuesday. You know, what what

1065
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:02.760
do you got? What do you got for the listeners?

1066
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:04.519
You know, summer's a big time for us, and so

1067
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:08.639
we've got tomorrow, We've got a track by track discussion

1068
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.760
of the Black Crows Shake Your Money Maker album, their

1069
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:15.000
debut album from nineteen ninety and then the week after that,

1070
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:18.679
we're gonna compare that to nineteen eighty nine Tesla's the

1071
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:21.719
great radio controversy with kind of their big hits from

1072
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:26.000
that era. And then after that we've got Rambo versus Commando,

1073
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:30.159
Schwarzenegger versus Stallone. It's gonna be amazing, and then the

1074
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.599
week after that we're doing Jimmy Buffett versus The Eagles

1075
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:36.760
Greatest Hits. Should have some fun stuff coming down the

1076
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:37.199
pipe for you.

1077
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:41.719
That is a blockbuster lineup heading our way from the

1078
01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:45.000
showy KP Be Serious Podcast. I for one, am excited

1079
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:48.599
because I can tell you right now, I've seen Tesla

1080
01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:54.000
in concert just a couple of years ago, and I

1081
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:57.760
am very familiar with the Black Crows album. That's gonna

1082
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:00.480
be a hard one to call. I don't envy you

1083
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:03.960
you and d making that final judgment, but but I

1084
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:06.320
trust you'll make the right call. I gotta think about

1085
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:07.719
that one because I've been I've been listening to the

1086
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.840
Black Crows recently, but now you're saying it, I'm like, well,

1087
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:14.679
I know how how much Tesla rocked, you know when

1088
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:16.760
we went to see him. So that's gonna be a

1089
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:20.800
great one. Man, Absolutely, thank you, Thank you very much. Jeff.

1090
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:22.519
What do you have coming down the pipe out a

1091
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:27.199
film buy for us? Well, Jason, Uh, it's finally here.

1092
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:33.159
Next next week, the big one, our four hundredth episode.

1093
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:35.960
I never thought we'd be talking about number four hundred,

1094
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.239
but we decided to do something a little special. So

1095
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.920
we're going to talk about one of the biggest directors,

1096
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:46.079
and we're going to talk about arguably one of the

1097
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:49.039
biggest superhero movies of all time.

1098
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:55.960
And I promise you no one has ever discussed this movie.

1099
01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:58.679
Wow, what do you got for us?

1100
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:03.480
Man, Jason? And we are going to talk about nineteen

1101
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:05.719
eighty nine's Batman.

1102
01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:09.280
Uh, Jeff, I don't want to be a jerk, but

1103
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:13.519
we've already discussed it. I've heard a million podcasts discussed

1104
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:16.079
Batman before. It's not that you know, it's not that special.

1105
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:21.320
Well, except we're not talking about the nineteen eighty nine

1106
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:25.199
Batman that you know, Jason. We're gonna take a trip

1107
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:29.400
to the Alternate Universe video store and we're gonna pick

1108
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:36.000
up a copy of Batman directed by Richard Donner, starring

1109
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:40.320
Mel Gibson, Robin Williams, Sean Young.

1110
01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:44.039
You are blowing my mind, dude, I can't wait for

1111
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:45.000
this episode.

1112
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:47.880
I will say no more. I've been hinting at this

1113
01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:50.320
a little bit here and there over the past couple months,

1114
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.719
but I will say no more. Listeners, tune in next

1115
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:58.119
week for a very special episode. We are heading to

1116
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:02.000
the Alternate Reality Video Store and we're gonna talk about

1117
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:05.360
one of our favorite movies from the Alternate nineteen eighty nine,

1118
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:10.960
Richard Donner's Batman. Wow, that's gonna be phenomenal. So come

1119
01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:13.960
back check that out in the meantime. For all of

1120
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:15.760
you that are listening to the show, following us on

1121
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:19.119
social media and subscribing to our Patreon, whether it's here

1122
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:23.119
or in the Alternate Reality, we thank you. Thanks guys.

1123
01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:23.719
That was fun.

1124
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:25.360
That's it.

1125
01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:27.880
Man Game Over? Man Game Over?

1126
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:36.719
Can I blow your socks off here real quick?

1127
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:38.679
Oh? I love when you do this. Go for it.

1128
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:43.199
Okay, So let's go back to nineteen eighty six. John

1129
01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:45.159
Hughes calls him and says, Hey, I've got a small

1130
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:46.599
part of the movie. I'd love for you to be

1131
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:51.800
in it. It's the parking attendant in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

1132
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:55.280
We uh, we talked about that on last week's episode.

1133
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.079
Good for you, all right, I'll cut that.

1134
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:03.960
I knew I picked that up somewhere recently.

1135
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:06.559
You must have heard that on a film buy.

1136
01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:09.880
Well, I thank you Jeff for informing me of that.

1137
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:11.639
I've got another.

1138
01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:14.079
One for you, and not a film buy but let

1139
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:16.440
me let me, let me try to blow your socks

1140
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:25.199
off with this. Well, all right, so his quote unquote

1141
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:29.440
good friend that he met while shooting next to Ken

1142
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.280
Liam Neeson. Did you tell this one too?

1143
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:36.960
Oh you're yeah, we talked about this two weeks ago.

1144
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:40.639
That's what happens when I listened to your podcast. It

1145
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:46.039
just comes in my brain and sticks. Good job, tasty nuggets.

1146
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:49.719
Go back and listen to the film by podcast where

1147
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:51.639
you could pick up these things on their original run.

1148
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:55.239
Good job. Oh thank you, Jason,