Filmmaker Oz Rodriguez
On this special episode, Jeff speaks with filmmaker Oz Rodriguez about his new feature film Miguel Wants To Fight. Oz shares his story, from watching Indiana Jones and Hitchcock movies as a child in the Dominican Republic, to arriving in Los Angeles to work on Funny Or Die, and his move to New York to direct for Saturday Night Live. We discuss the importance of Hispanic Heritage Month, his directorial feature film Vampires vs. the Bronx, the excitement of winning an Emmy, and his new Netflix series Neon!
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Hello everybody, and welcome back to
a Film by podcast. I'm Jeff Johnson
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and I am very happy to have
Oz Rodriguez on the show with us today.
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Oz. Hello, welcome, sir, Hello, Hello, thank you,
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Thank you for having me very excited
to talk anything that includes the word
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film in it. You were on
the right show, my friend. He
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look, our listeners know here we
we loved a wax intellectual about Hollywood's best
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directors, biggest directors. They're nderrated
hits, what we love about them,
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and on occasion we get to talk
with the director. So this is absolutely
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a treat for us. Oz.
How about we start with how you got
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into the business. Uh, yeah, it started the beginning in the Caribbean
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jungle. I'm from the Dominican Republic
from Santo Domingo. Yeah, I grew
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up in the Caribbean, and we're
there is where I started watching movies and
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getting obsessed with them. My mom
is an avid film watcher. She can
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sit down and watch two or three
movies and on a Sunday and and you
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know, think nothing of it.
So yeah, I think she probably had
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parted that sort of love of of
cinema. Huh. And yeah, I
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think I growing up, I was
really attracted to movies, but in the
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Dominican Republic, I didn't know what
to do with this love for movies because
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there was no film school there at
the time. So then I graduated high
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school. I studied advertising actually at
university. And while I was doing that,
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I was saving money and doing research
and I found the school online.
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It's called the LA Film School.
It was a year program. I'm like,
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that sounds great, let's do that. So I moved to La.
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I didn't know anyone. The little
money had saved, and I went to
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the school. It was a year
school, and I met a bunch of
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really good people that some of them
might still work with today. And you
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know, you go to film school, do the thing you learn, You
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watch movies and you have this knowledge. But then like when you're out there,
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you know, you're like, Hollywood, what can I do in Hollywood?
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It's like, ah, go away. So I think it's you know,
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it's always important for you to start
doing something yourself. So you got
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something to show and and and started
making a mark. So that didn't come
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right away. I actually started working
in the LA Film School, and I
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worked in the equipment room and That's
how I started borrowing some cameras to then
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make some sketches with my friends,
and then we put those online. And
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the beginning of like YouTube sounds like
a hundred years ago, but yeah,
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we we uh we we were doing
that and making a little bit of money
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and then we uh me and some
friends we got hired at Funnier Die.
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That website started with We'll Will Ferrell
and that on McKay And that was like
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another film school because I was working
with celebs of all kinds, like a
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too D list, and it was
like the first time I like worked with
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a red camera or like there was
like a truck full of lights, like
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an equipment truck. So that was
really a great experience, and I think
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it was sort of a low stress
preparation for what came next when the Major's
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called and SNL gave me a job. So I moved to New York City
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to the very chill job that is
Saturday Night Live with no pressure at all.
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We have all the time in the
world to do your work. Yeah.
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No, it was, Yeah,
it tremendously wild and different experience and
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you sort of just hold on to
that train and just try not to fall
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off. I mean obviously that changed
my life. Like getting a job at
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at that American cultural institution, Let's
say it was incredible, and I learned
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so much just because like there was
constant work, you were doing a sketch
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every week and and and definitely learned
really quickly what works and what doesn't because
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the audience tells you right away they're
like nope, not laughing. And then
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also like developed my sort of my
gut instincts. I because in my time
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there, everything that could go wrong
on a set went wrong for me,
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So I like I could sort of
see problems coming a mile ahead. Uh
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you know, I got a blizzard
dumped on me, a thunderstorm too,
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all kinds of shit. That was
how I got to SNL. That is
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a little bit of my story.
I gotta imagine leaving home for Los Angeles.
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That's got to be as frightening as
it is exciting. My question to
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you was was Hollywood? Was it? Was it what you expected, like
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Los Angeles, like the culture there, you know from what you had seen
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on TV or what you expected.
Was it was it a culture shock or
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was it like, Yeah, this
is exactly this is exactly what I thought
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it would be. Yeah, it
was a little bit of a shock.
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I mean I had family. I
had family in the East Coast, so
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New York, Miami, so I'd
been to the States. But LA is
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its own sort of different animal,
if you will. And like I remember,
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I remember going to like the Walk
of Fame and sort of where it
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starts, which is not in front
of the Chinese theora where it's a little
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grimy, let's say, and I
was like, oh, this is a
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dirty guys. Somebody has to clean
this these stars. That was sort of
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my first indication that like, huh, things are not as they seem.
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Uh, But yeah, I know, I think, like definitely a little
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bit of a culture shock. Man. I didn't have a car for like
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the first year, so that was
interesting. And they got it moved close
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to the LA Film School, Like
I was a few blocks away, so
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I like I didn't have to schlip
the camera to too far. But then
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like that that school was like a
year long program and it was an intense
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not intense, but like they give
you a camera the first day and like
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you you're expected to deliver a short
the first week, and they're really it's
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it's built, so you do shit
and I feel like that's something that's sort
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of tried to carry with me as
far as like, ah do stuff,
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because you can always rely on that
whenever you feel weird and you're like,
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where the fuck am I? I
guess let's go to work. So you
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know, you mentioned your mother kind
of helped you find this passion for filmmaking.
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Was there was there specific movies,
specific movie stars like who who inspires
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osre Riguez at this point? So
my mom, you know, I was
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watching all kinds of stuff and obviously
into genre stuff, like I loved Indiana
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Jones, that's my dude. But
you know, growing up in the Dominican
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Republic, every movie is foreign,
Like the most movies we got are American
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movies. But I was also exposed
to Spanish movies. And I've watched a
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lot of better on my lower movies
with my mom and my sister too.
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And I remember one time she maybe
she was like, you've seen these Indiana
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Jones movies way too many times.
You should check out this movie Vertigo by
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Hitchcock. Oh wow. I was
like yeah, And I was like,
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all right, mom, And I'd
heard her talk about how like she was
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affected by that movie and I remember
watching it, and by the end of
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it, I remember my feeling.
My first felom was like, Wow,
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could they make movies like that?
Like that, Like the ending is so
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shocking. So that's a movie that
I remember sort of being like, Oh,
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there's other stuff out there that like
is not just just sort of pure
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joy and fun and and and silliness. Like some stuff can make you think
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and and can make you feel not
great too afterwards. So yeah, I
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mean, I just devoured movies a
lot. I think by personality I myself,
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I like to not take things too
serious, so I tend to just
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want to make people laugh. But
but I'll watch anything. Sometimes I actually
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watch less comedies than than other genres, only because, like, I work
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on it so much that sometimes you
want to like not like I don't even
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want to see people laughing. I
just had a great day filming with comedians.
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Let me give me some sadness or
like some some good crime. Yeah,
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I love it. This this past
August, Hulu, you know we're
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getting I'm seeing the promos, I'm
seeing this. I see this trailer for
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Miguel Wants to Fight, and just
based off the trailer, I'm like,
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Okay, that's that's got a unique
look to it that looks like it could
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be fun. I watched this,
you know, and you know, apologies
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because I didn't I didn't know.
I didn't know your work at that point.
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I mean, I knew your work, I just didn't know that I
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knew your work. So let's talk
a little bit about Miguel wants to Fight?
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Can you? Can you share a
little bit. Let's start off with
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the writing process. You write this, You co write this with with Chay
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Serrano and Jason Kossop Soon Is that
correct? No, they they were the
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writers, and I was lucky enough
to just sort of get sent the script
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one day, and uh yeah,
I really responded to it. It had
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so many things that I was sort
of looking for in movies and I'd like
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to watch too. I uh,
well, first, his name is Miguel,
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so that immediately I'm like, well, he's a Latino kid, so
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almost I basically was in right away. And then I loved the sort of
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the story and how it deals with
sort of the coming of age aspect and
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sort of finding yourself and being comfortable
in your own skin. And then you
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add some fun actions, action beats
and some funds or recreations of movies that
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I've grown up loving. So it
felt like a no brainer to me,
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like I need to be involved.
Okay, so we've got four sensational young
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actors in this film. Were you
were you involved in the casting process or
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you know, did you read with
these actors or can you tell us a
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little bit about that? Yeah?
No, that was that was the That
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was basically the Hulu basically was like, let's see if we can find these
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actors, because if we don't,
like the movie is these four kids.
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So if like if we don't find
these teenagers and we don't make this movie.
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So uh now we looked all over
the world literally and and we we've
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we It's one of those things where
like, you know, you see a
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bunch of people and people feel okay, but then like someone like Tyler shows
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up and you're like, oh,
yeah, that's it. That's that's the
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one. Or Christian who who plays
Dave David or Surge who plays a SERENI
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like they're there, they had that
like they you just knew something. You
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just like you saw them and you
knew. But we're doing this in in
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over zoom, so we're still living
in a post pandemic world. So you're
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casting with people on zoom, and
that's that's tricky because when you're in the
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same room with someone, it's easier
to sort of exchange ideas and something and
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and something's just like the zoom sucks, the connection sucks some random dude outside
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of the leaf flower and you can't
control that. Uh. So we we
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we found the four actors that we
wanted for the teenagers, but we needed
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to see if they could work well
together, because that's that's the whole movie.
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So we did a chemistry read but
also on zoom gosh the actors as
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well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's there's a lot of that
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happening right now. But it's yeah, it's tough. It's tough, and
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uh somehow we we we did it. And even with like it's like in
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this form, which is not the
ideal form, and and one of the
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actors, like internet was off,
so like he was like coming in a
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little late. But even even like
that, you could tell there's something here,
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like there's this core is fun and
I think I think this is the
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right way to do it. Yeah, and then once we found those four
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actors, sort of like that led
to getting people like oh, well,
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I see you, and and just
filling out the cast. But yeah,
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it all started with them. And
I think one of the biggest compliments I've
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received is people think they were best
friends before we shot the movie, and
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they actually met in person a week
before we shot, so the us to
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them. Yeah, the chemistry that
these four have, it's it's so impressive
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because when you know, when you're
watching a film and it's and it's got
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young young you know, the characters
are young actors or I'm sorry, the
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characters are our young people. Sometimes
there's a preconceived notion of what their dialogue
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would sound like, right, And
I gotta tell you, you guys nailed
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it with this because they're having conversations
like that kind of took me back to
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high school and I thought, yeah, this is how we This is how
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me and my best friends talk,
this is this is how we treated each
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other. So there, their chemistry
is fantastic. One question I have for
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you the character of Miguel, he
is he's such a sweet kid, you
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know, and the irony is that
when you when you pull up Tyler Dean
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Flores on IMDb. His the first
picture you see of him, he looks
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so intense. I mean, he
looks like he's gonna whip your ass.
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So was that was that a situation
where are you looking at headshots before you're
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seeing him on zoom? Because if
I'm looking at this picture of Tyler Dean
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Flores, I'm like, this isn't
I'm googling. I'm googling it right now
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because I need to know what photo
it is. Oh, I'm telling you,
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oh interesting, Yeah, so you
see it what I'm seeing. It's
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I have a story about this photo
actually, but it's not about Miguel.
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No. He came in, he
came in, he didn't have braids,
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he had his long he looked very
much like he looks in the movie.
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And because we were like just keep
that same the like had his long hair
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sort of in a ponytail and rare, like, yeah, just keep that
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look. It looks it looks cool
and like you don't look different than other
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type of heroes and movies. So
I loved it. But yeah, that
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photo actually is from some other movie. But uh, I ended, uh,
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well, i'll tell you later.
Well, we talked about we talked
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about the future projects. I'll bring
up that photo okay, story. Yeah,
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because I'm telling you right now,
you look at that photo. I'm
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if I'm the director, I'm making
a mistake of saying, you know what,
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that's not Miguel, but let's let's
read him for Damien because he looks
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he looks scary. So yeah,
uh, you mentioned we got we got
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a couple of other great actors actresses. What was it like working with with
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Dasha? Because I loved I loved
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you know, and she's got one
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too. She's awesome. Dasha's a
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little bit, so honestly, it
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I texted her and I was like, do you uh, would you mind
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come to this ridiculous role. I
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to her because I do not want
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uh And I yeah, I basically
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like, this is the story,
and this is what we're doing, and
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you don't mind giving us a couple
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the best. She said, Charlotte, do is she went up to Syracuse
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and got punched. We'll leave it
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want to spoil that for for our
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it's one of the funnier moments.
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embarrassing moments in this movie. Uh
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one of the more embarrassing moments for
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to get in a fight, and
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know, we mentioned you mentioned earlier
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pays amage to like a couple a
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big films entered The Dragon and the
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early on in the writing process or
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was it always like this is who, this is the these are the movies
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that Miguel responds to. There were
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think any of The Dragon and the
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The last battle was something else.
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Fury Road thing, and I was
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there's no desert in Syracuse. But
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conversation. I was like, well, the movie starts talking about one punch
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that. And yeah, I mean
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like getting End of the Dragon.
I'm a big old action movie nerd,
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so that Enter of the Dragon sequence
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movies. There's nods to Jackie Chan, there's nods to Steve mi Shao and
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Donnie Yen and probably one more I'm
forgetting right now. Well, let's you
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got the QT reference too, you
know when he walks in. Yeah,
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we made fun. Why you just
like the girl from Kill Bill Scheme of
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Death? You know? Yeah,
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fascinating to me. I mean,
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year. Yeah, and it's still
relevant, you know, and and and
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it's because of it's because of filmmakers
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I loved those moments in this film, you know, absolutely loved it.
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It's it's a It was so fun
to like build that action scene in
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like in the middle of punches where
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reference this thing? And what if
we referenced that thing right there? And
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that. It was such a blast, dude to to to think about it.
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was very fun. Yeah. Well, this movie as funny as it is,
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and there's so many great comedic beats. I really appreciate the fact that
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there's a there's a real heartfelt story
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son's story. I wasn't expecting because
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so I wasn't ready for it.
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back to Miguil and his world and
like his like drive to like want to
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fight and his drive don't want to
fight is related to his environment, his
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friends, his family. In a
way, he's surrounded by violence and people
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are fighting in the town. His
dad's a boxing coach and he there's there's
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a lot of sort of teenager feelings
there that I wanted to sort of like
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capture because we've all sort of had
those emo emotions. So I think,
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yeah, it was a vital part
of the story as far as like,
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this is a person that his dad
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tells him that they love him for
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fight and they just want him to
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that makes Naruto videos at the park. So yeah, it was a nice
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like it was a nice way to
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if you will, and like what
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sort of like violence, do you
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heavy things that like obviously we're not
like let me tell you about these things,
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but like I think those are sort
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also just show a loving relationship between
a dad and his son, which is
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like sometimes not shown as much.
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it's coming out at a very important
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the end like you know, it's
obviously it's it's a Hispanic Heritage Month.
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to October fifteenth, OS as we strive
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to champion diversity, equality inclusion.
Do you have any any thoughts you can
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share on how Hispanic heritage can be
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can do a better job. I
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me and other Latino directors more jobs. That would be the best way to
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absolutely, yes, more opportunities.
And also like also I think Hispanic Heritage
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Month is amazing, but also not
just like saving everything for that month.
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I think sort of having a plan
for Latino stories, not just for that
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chunk of time, but just for
like the future. And uh, I
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add some of it is by giving
writers, Latina writers, directors, cinematographers,
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everyone that works in the crew a
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I am hopeful for the future.
I think I think I would be facetious
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if I wasn't because I've made two
features with a lot of latinos. I
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can't believe they let me have all
those Latinos in there. And then I
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just finished this pilot for a show
that comes out in October nineteenth about this
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kid that moves to Miami to make
it in the Regaton industry, also starring
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Tyler Dean Flores who plays Miguel,
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bunch of people from the Caribbean Diannaeus. So, you know, I started
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the answer with like, I feel
like there could be more, but there's
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we're also making stride, So you
know, I feel like you always want
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more, but I must admit that
we some things are happening and it's up
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to all of us to sort of
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it and demand more of it.
I guess, well, yeah, So
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Latina superhero, you know, with
the Blue Beetle Solomon Dwight. He did
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amazing in that film. I don't
know if you saw it. I'm a
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you know, I love the superhero
genre. I don't care how many they
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make, I'll go see them.
I wasn't even familiar with that character that
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much, and I feel it's one
of the better DC films that they've made
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in the past, you know,
five ten years so I agree with you.
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I feel like, yeah, we're
starting to see progress. We just
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need more of it, right mm
hmm yeah, I I uh, I
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hope there's a Latino superhero Marvel and
another and the Latino Superhero Team one day
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and like all the things uh uh
and not just uh. I think representation
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all kinds, and it's superheroes in
horror movies. I'll take anything. Uh
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yeah, it's it's it's slowly,
slowly making gains here. Yeah, you
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know you mentioned horror films. I
always think of Julie Carmen in Fright Night
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Part two because look, I'm a
hot take. Fright Night two is better
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than Fright Night. I'm gonna say, well, it's it's, it's it's
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listen. I love Chris Saranon,
but when Regime comes on the screen at
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that age, I was mesmerized,
you know, absolutely loved her. So
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now I gotta go watch Fright Night
too. Yeah you've not seen it's been
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well while it's almost like I haven't
seen it because it's been so long.
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Okay, good, because I did
see Fright Night, but Fright Nights for
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when I was prepping vampires. But
I I must admit I did not catch
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up on two again, So it's
time. It is time. Oz ms
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Carmen is just sensational, you know. I A all right, Well,
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we're gonna take a quick break and
when we get back, we'll continue to
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talk with Oz and we'll we'll dip
into his his background, his filmography,
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as it were, Welcome back,
we are talking with filmmaker Oz Rodriguez.
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Oz, you have got some great
stuff that I want to talk about,
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if you, if you'll indulge us, let's start off with you know you
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you'd already talked about Saurday Live.
Uh, like what ten years with Saturday
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with SNL. I gotta imagine you've
got some uh maybe some favorite favorite cast
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members, favorite crew to work with. Uh. Yes, yes, it's
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the answer to all that. Yeah, I mean I came in the year
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that, like people like Adie Bryant
and Kate McKinnon came in and Cecily and
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like I met Pete Davidson when he
was twenty years old, So yeah,
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another lifetime ago. And I loved
working with them so much, Like shooting
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twin Bed, it was such a
fun Doing my twin Bed was such a
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fun moment because we were talking like
you know, Lonely Island had just left
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and they had such a profound impact
on the show, especially with music videos,
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but there never been any like female
led music video and that was the
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first time that the show had tried
it and it was a success, and
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that was like a real That was
one of one really nice, awesome night
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that like it feels really nice when
something works, like when you bust your
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ass and it works. There's nothing
like it. Yeah, And then as
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far as crew, like, man, I I so I did this show.
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I did this docu series called Creating
SNL and it's a short series on
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YouTube. Yeah, I did that
because I was surrounded by all these amazing
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crafts people, like everyone behind the
scene was so incredible aut their job,
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and I felt like the documentaries that
I had seen about SNL were talked about
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the history, the cast, lorn
and maybe the writers, but I'd never
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seen anything on makeup. Here,
the sets, the photos and all that
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shit is like amazing. So that
was one of my favorite things that I've
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done, just to like interview all
these amazing people I work with and just
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sort of share their expertise and knowledge
and how insane and challenging their job is
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so I think that just the crew
in general that puts together eight Age is
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there is nothing like it like the
eight Age the studio for us and now
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there's just nothing like the people that
work there. It's after you work there
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and you work another job, you're
like, oh, this is easy,
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this is chill. The great thing
about Creating Center Live, like you're saying,
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it's kind of like pulling the pulling
the curtain back and getting like a
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behind the scenes look at everything that
goes into this show, and it's it's
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fascinating. You're nominated Creating Center Live, It's nominated for three mice and you
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take one home in twenty nineteen,
what what was that experience? Like?
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I forgot to give you also a
fun story of real quick Oh please do
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my first show night? I was
so like that first week hit me like
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a ton of bricks because I just
moved to New York fall whether we're starting,
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I was getting cold. I got
so busy, So I got a
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cold and Saturday morning, Uh,
I popped a dake Will just to like
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make it through the day. But
then I realized I had actually taken a
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night wall Oh that's Saturday. I
was like, Hi, out of my
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just like Zong, just like living
in another world and also the pressure of
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Saturday night life like my first show. So I was I was just like
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in another dimension, like dimension is
world and finished our sketch as the previous
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sketch was on TV. So,
uh, when I work. When I
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worked at SNL, I didn't have
any great hair listener. My hair is
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full. Hey yeah, but listen
it might be, but it is a
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very impressive man. I mean you
can you can see me. As soon
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as I realized, like I'm not
gonna have hair like that, I just
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started shaving it. So I was
like, yeah, but yeah, this
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is this is a handsome guy we're
talking about it. I love it.
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was your ship? I now forgot the
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question the Emmy. Let's have about
Emmy? I mean crazy, like you
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know, truly being nominated is amazing, Like you go to this fancy ass
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event and you wear tucks and you're
surrounded by famous people and you're in this
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insane, insane event. Uh.
So, yeah, we got nominated twice.
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It was nice to go. But
then the third year, I don't
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know why. I was like,
I feel like I feel like we got
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it. This year. I don't
know why. I was like, I
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gotta I don't know why. I
got a good feeling. So I was
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like, I feel like I should
prepare a speech. I guess. And
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I remember at the event being like, you don't know when your thing's coming
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up. So and and the Emmys
are actually a three night event. There's
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so many Emmy categories that they do. There's a big show where they give
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the awards to know the actors and
whatever, and the HBO shows and all
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that, but then all sort of
the other departments are done the previous weekend
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on a Saturday and Sunday event that
is then sort of rebroadcast on effects or
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something. But anyway, that's where
they're like best Choreography, best Cinematography,
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like a lot of sort of the
craft's awards. So a lot of awards
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are given out that weekend, so
you don't know when yours is coming.
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I had to pee, Oh no, and I was like, please God,
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please, please please please let us
be soon because I have to pee,
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and I also need a drink because
I'm too nervous, and I need
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to get over and we need to
either win or lose. Thankfully, it
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happened in like the first thirty minutes
for forty five minutes, and it was
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incredible. I honestly don't remember much
because I think I just blacked out from
405
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.640
like the insanity. I remember walking
towards the stage and thinking, don't fall,
406
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:02.599
don't fall, please, don't fall, and then I said something and
407
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.839
then we were out. It was
so fast. They gave me a huge
408
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:13.759
statue. Uh super heavy. But
yeah, man, it was a wild,
409
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:19.039
wild experience, wild night and uh
uh yeah, pretty cool, pretty
410
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.240
pretty cool. So you had you
you worked with with Funnier Die. Uh
411
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can we talk a little bit about
John Carpenter presents Funnier Dies Halloween from twenty
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eleven. This is wow. I
haven't I don't think I've ever been asked
413
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that question. I can't wait.
Really, let's see, Well Carpenter clearly
414
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:43.799
like you know, I mean I'm
a big Carpenter fan. Yeah. Yeah,
415
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:47.480
And and he is what I'm seeing
in the in this sketch, it's
416
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:52.599
just him being himself. I mean
he's just being very much. Yeah.
417
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.759
Was that was that? Was that
him just going, hey, I'll say
418
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:57.400
what I want, do what I
want? Or is it like is he
419
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.880
taking direction? Like? How what
was it? Like to do a director,
420
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:07.119
I guess my first question. Okay, so where to start. Yeah,
421
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:16.000
at Funnier Guy, sometimes we would
just creates like a situation where we
422
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.640
could then ask people we wanted to
work with to come over. We were
423
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.119
like, what if we just make
some Halloween shit and treated almost like tails
424
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.640
from the Crips and we need a
host and then they make a bunch of
425
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:32.559
weird sketches. And that was kind
of the beauty of Funnier Diet that you
426
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.279
could like go to the bosses and
be like what about this? And I'm
427
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:44.160
like, okay, especially if if
if it was cheap, and you know,
428
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:49.440
he came into the office, so
I think somebody one of the producers
429
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:55.359
wives knew his wife and somehow got
to him, and I don't know,
430
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.039
I think he was like all right, and he just showed up. He's
431
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:02.319
like what the fuck is this?
Or like we were all like it was
432
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.519
it was half like it was three
parts. There was the whoa John Carpenter.
433
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:12.199
There was the embarrassment of like,
oh my god, he actually said
434
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:16.239
yes this, this is so stupid, and the awkwardness of directing this.
435
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:22.800
Uh sometimes cranky man, lovable cranky
man. Yeah. So yeah, we
436
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:29.039
directed it and like, uh kind
of let him do his thing, and
437
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.559
I mean if he was uh cranky, it only made it funnier. And
438
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:37.079
uh we let him rip on the
piano and I mean, I see he
439
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.119
said yes to this is wild.
Like we all got our posters signed.
440
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:44.679
It was a wonderful thing to say. That was that like a little bit
441
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:45.559
of like a hey, I'm on, I'm on the set, I'm the
442
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.880
boss, but I get to be
I can kind of get the fan fan
443
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.840
boy out a little bit because this
is Scarpenter. I'm want his auditor.
444
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:55.280
I can't imagine what that be.
Like. Oh yeah. We were like
445
00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:00.440
at the end, we're like,
I'm sorry, we had to. We
446
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.400
had to, And I I do
that a lot. I have no shame
447
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.199
of like asking autographs for it some
of the people that I beat, because
448
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:13.800
like it's crazy the people in of
it. So uh, if I can,
449
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.519
I'll do it afterwards after we've we've
done the work. It's not I
450
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:23.400
don't open with like, uh,
anyone else on funni er guy that you
451
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.480
you just had a positive experience with, And I mean I imagine that's a
452
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.599
lot of it, but anyone stand
out where you're like, man, this
453
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:35.679
this one sketch we did. You
know, anyone come to mind, Yeah,
454
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.440
yeah, I mean I think one
of the first sketches that like kind
455
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.000
of like it wasn't the first sketch
we did, but it was one of
456
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.440
the first. So and it kind
of got us like no, I mean,
457
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.960
we already had the job, but
it got us a little bit I
458
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.440
don't want to say respect in the
office, but like people were like,
459
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.639
oh, these dudes can do their
thing. Like we did this sketch with
460
00:35:54.039 --> 00:36:02.679
Tim Roth called Prostitute, and uh
we were with fucking bringing Tim Roth and
461
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:08.280
North Hollywood, shooting on a five
D this ridiculous idea where he is a
462
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:14.280
pimp for bros. So you can
have someone to hang with, and but
463
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:19.679
we shot it in this like very
grounded docu style, Like basically it was
464
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:24.800
those like it was it was inspired
by those documentaries about sex workers and HBO
465
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:30.679
that that that you'd see in the
nineties, So we try to like give
466
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:38.639
this such stupid idea a very like
gravitas type look. And it was the
467
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:43.039
best time. Tim Roth like got
it and he was so down to clown
468
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:49.039
and and man like, when you
have a talent like that, and he
469
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.239
is so committed and doing the lines. I mean, there's nothing like it.
470
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:57.719
Before we get away, Uh we
get too far away from messin l
471
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:02.320
Can we can we talk on the
whole uh piece on earth little rummer boy
472
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:08.480
sketch? Yeah, because I got
I listen. So here's the thing you're
473
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:15.519
bringing them. I'm complimenting you.
You know, thirteen years ago the first
474
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:20.480
time I see this, because obviously
it's a it's an iconic everyone knows the
475
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:24.880
whole Crosby Bowie thing. When I
see uh Ferrell and Riley doing this,
476
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:29.480
I remember saying, I don't know
who came up with this or who's behind
477
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.320
this, but they're brilliant, they're
genius, and they're gonna they're gonna make
478
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:35.599
a big impact because this is awesome. Like, how do you do you
479
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.639
recall like how that came to be, like in the writing room, or
480
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:47.559
I don't recall how it came to
be because that was a typical funnier duy
481
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.559
thing where someone would say something and
then people would find it funny, and
482
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.639
all of a sudden you were on
set the next day shooting that thing.
483
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.719
So it might have been like my
had even been like a will Ferrell like,
484
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.519
oh, what did you do this? Uh? Yeah, I don't
485
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:07.840
remember. I don't honestly remember where
it came from because like as far as
486
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.280
the writing, there wasn't like a
ton of writing because we were kind of
487
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.920
recreating a shot for shot. Uh
but yeah, I think once I heard
488
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:19.679
about it, I was like,
oh, I'm in I need to work
489
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:24.719
on that. And yeah it was
so it was again just so much hard
490
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:30.119
work for something so stupid. You
were like rented out all the frames and
491
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:35.480
we figured out all the shots and
the angles and we built the set and
492
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:39.840
then it was it was so fun
that we also, like, you know,
493
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.320
there was a shoot day, but
the previous day we went to the
494
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.840
studio to record it. So I, you know, you're you're singing this
495
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:51.079
song. I was sinking, but
I'm listening to a world Farrell and John
496
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.519
c Riley crack up and crack each
other up as they're recording. Uh,
497
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:59.159
drummer boy. It was. It
was incredible. You have to like pinch
498
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.199
yourself. You're like, what the
hell is happening here? Yeah, that
499
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:06.119
was a really fun. It was
just a fun That was a really fun
500
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:10.400
shoot because like, uh, it
was it was truly a Christmas miracle because
501
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:14.960
everything went right, everything went great, there was no problems. I had
502
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:16.320
a great time, and we did
a killer video at the end. So
503
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:21.559
it was it was, it was
cool. Well, I'll be honest with
504
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.320
you. Every Christmas, Uh,
there are staples in my house. Things
505
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:30.559
I'm gonna watch obviously, you know, the Peanuts Christmas Special, die Hard
506
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:37.199
and thanks to the Internet, I
always pull up the the your version of
507
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:42.039
of Bowie and Crosby. I love
that one. Nice. Nice, Well,
508
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.519
I'm glad you like it. That's
awesome. I uh ship, I'm
509
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:50.039
gonna pull it up again. I
see it in a while. So earlier
510
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.880
you were you were talking, we
were talking about some of your some of
511
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:59.400
your inspiration you you mentioned, we
talked a little bit about Vertigo. And
512
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:04.320
as I'm looking and through you your
filmography, I noticed one of your one
513
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:10.119
of your your shorts talking about Latino
Vortex. Has the has that Vertigo styled
514
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:14.719
poster for it. Yep, you
got it. Let's talk. Let's talk.
515
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:19.880
Let's talk about Latino. So Latino
Vortex. First off, it's hilarious.
516
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:23.320
Let's talk a little bit about that
one. Because one thing I'm kind
517
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:29.480
of curious about. I want to
like the process directing a short versus an
518
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:36.119
a television episode versus a feature.
Let's let's talk a little bit about the
519
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.280
differences, the challenge, the different
challenges you might face. Mm hmm.
520
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:50.880
Well, I mean that was a
short that we did for the the YouTube
521
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:57.039
channel Mashart MHM and they were associated
to Broadway Video, which is the production
522
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:01.559
company that does SNL. So yeah, they were like a Latino YouTube channel,
523
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.800
and they were in the same building. They were in thirty Rock.
524
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:07.360
So I went up and I was
like, I want to make a short.
525
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.360
I want to make a short with
Dominicans. Yeah, I'd love that.
526
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.920
You guys can give me somebody to
pay for it. And they were
527
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:17.440
like, here's a couple of thousand
dollars. When you see something and they
528
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.840
put this in front of you,
are you looking at it like Okay,
529
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:22.760
this is funny because it's true,
or like, okay, this is a
530
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:29.719
little ridiculous. It's not like this, but I'm gonna go for because definitely
531
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.280
it's definitely true. It is something
very hard to leave a party like that.
532
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.159
We all relied on our own experiences, and obviously you heighten in to
533
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:44.199
make it ridiculous, but it is
definitely based on a kernel of truth.
534
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.320
Sometimes it is hard to leave.
That's why sometimes you have to do the
535
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.880
was it Irish goodbye where you don't
say goodbye, just get the f out
536
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.599
of there. That is very true. So we just took it to the
537
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.280
nth degree and and it was it
was a blast. We like, it
538
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:06.679
was basically like a bunch of favors
and I really just I knew those performers
539
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:12.760
like my Dias, and I kind
of just wanted to do something fun with
540
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:17.920
it. Mike. It was truly
like a fun fun uh and exercise and
541
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.719
fun. It was all for fun. So so yeah, not a ton
542
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:28.920
of money, so uh the location
was the main actress apartment, so there
543
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.639
didn't have to pay for location.
Nice. So yeah, I just like
544
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:36.079
got a little bit of money for
renting, forgetting the camera and paying the
545
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:40.719
uh andy coogler who shot it the
DP and then we paid uh sound dude,
546
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:45.760
and then ask a bunch of friends
that come over and then we got
547
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.119
the pizza at the end. So
that that was like that was very much
548
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:55.880
like film school, you know,
back to basics kind of shooting and then
549
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.119
you know, features are definitely the
complete up a set of that it's like
550
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:06.880
you prep for a month or more
and so many movie pieces and you want
551
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:12.719
to be also more ambitious. But
at the same time, like when you're
552
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:15.679
actually shooting it, it is the
same thing. Even if you are on
553
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:17.360
a huge production or if you're a
small thing and you sort of have to
554
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.039
You have the scene and you have
to capture in the best way possible.
555
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:28.960
Sometimes you just have more expensive cameras
to do it right. Well, let's
556
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.960
talk about a feature let's talk about
your your feature film. Uh, let's
557
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:37.840
do it. Yeah, Vampires Versus
The Bronx. This is twenty twenty.
558
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.519
First off, again, I'm seeing
I'm watching this a couple of years ago.
559
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:46.559
I'm like, man, this this
is pretty damn good. So it's
560
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:52.480
exciting to get to talk to the
guy that made that film. Were you
561
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.280
inspired? I know you you kind
of mentioned, you know, you said,
562
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:58.960
hey, I watched I watched The
Fright Nights to get ready for Vampires.
563
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.639
The eighties kind of gave us this
this kids versus monsters sub genre.
564
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.480
I can think of a couple of
great ones that I loved. Any of
565
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.000
them? Were they like, did
you take inspiration from Meriam? When you
566
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.320
when you're putting this this uh this
cast together and coming up with this story
567
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:19.599
from all of them, yes is
the answer, and from all of them
568
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.559
yes, uh yeah No. I
mean it's very much like wanting to make
569
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:30.639
something that felt like those movies,
but set in set now, make contemporary
570
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:37.159
story and set in a location that
was not Suburbia that was the you know,
571
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.119
the Bronx that had this huge Dominican
diaspora, which was something I was
572
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.840
really interested in. Like it really
started with like, I want to make
573
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:47.960
a fun, sort of kids genre
movie, but I want the kids to
574
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.000
look like myself and my friends when
we were growing up. Like that was
575
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:55.559
sort of like the seed of the
idea. So so one hundred percent Monster
576
00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:00.199
Squad, Gooonies, Lost Boys,
Fright Night. Yeah, yeah, for
577
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.320
sure you mentioned Monster Squad and that
that's the double feature I go with with
578
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.360
Vampires versus Brox. I'm like,
all right, we're gonna we're gonna do
579
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.079
Monster Squad. We're gonna do Vampires
versus the Brocks, because like I feel
580
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:15.280
like those kids that you know,
you captured that essence like this is this
581
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:19.280
is how kids talk, this is
how they behave. Yeah, fantastic film.
582
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.719
It's on Netflix. One thing again, you know what I love about
583
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:29.119
your trailers. Uh to to these
these films, I'm yeah, I'm all
584
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:30.199
in because it's like, Okay,
this looks like it's gonna be a fun
585
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:35.159
movie. And then there's a message, there's like a different there's another message,
586
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.159
there's there's more to the story.
Uh, you know with vampires,
587
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:43.800
there's definitely a message about gentrification in
there, and and it's an important conversation
588
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.400
to have. And you know again
obviously it's yeah it's vampires. Uh love
589
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.039
love the real estate name, you
know, based off of the whole not
590
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:53.920
sparatu. I was like, you
know, because I'm a horror I'm a
591
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.159
horror guy. I love I'm a
movie nerd. I was like, wait
592
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.960
that I know what, I know, what's up? You know, and
593
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:01.719
uh, you know it. So
it has like a little bit of sailing
594
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:06.760
slot feeling where the vampires are kind
of taken over, but but it's something
595
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:10.639
that's it's it's own thing too.
So uh, you're working with method man,
596
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:15.840
Zoe Saldana, Shaye Wigham, Like
that's got to be an amazing experience
597
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:22.239
with these with these guys. Yes, I can't believe I got all those
598
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.679
people metha man came in to read
for something else and then he was like,
599
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.760
what if, what if? What
if I do this? This father
600
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:32.920
Jackson roll I was like, yeah, yes see you once said we got
601
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:39.400
it and Shae Wiggam, I can't. I it's amazing that he was into
602
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:44.639
it, like I can't. It's
so cool that he was like he was
603
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.920
set to script and yeah. I
remember like face timing with him and I
604
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.679
like, uh, you know,
at first, You're like, well,
605
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.159
it's this guy always plays intense dudes. I'm literally scared. But he was
606
00:46:55.199 --> 00:47:00.199
so cool. He's so cool.
I love Shaye Wigham. He should be
607
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.239
in everything. He's the ultimate pro. I learned so much from him,
608
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:10.880
like the best. And then so
he saw Dania. I wrote her a
609
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:20.639
long letter to try to basically asking
her for his favor, and I told
610
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:24.400
her what the movie's about and always
I'm a Dominican filmmaker and still to this
611
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:28.719
day can't believe she said yes.
She was like, I'll be in New
612
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.679
York that day. Let's go.
I love it man. Yeah, so
613
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:35.920
any and I got Sue. It
was amazing. We got super lucky.
614
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:38.639
Now I know we're gonna we're gonna
talk about what's coming up next for you
615
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.599
here in a couple of minutes.
But before we you know, just to
616
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:45.039
Yeah, I'm gonna cheat a little
bit. You ever have thoughts on like,
617
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.880
you know, more of the of
the vampire story, like, you
618
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.320
know, bring these kids back doing
another another film? Because it ends it
619
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.519
ends kind of like, hey,
you come to our neighborhood. This is
620
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.400
what happens, you know. Yeah. I love the mean, like the
621
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:04.440
community comes together. So I was
wondered, like what if what if there's
622
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.960
a different threat, you know,
different creature, different monster, Like could
623
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.800
we do something more in this year? There's definitely you know the stories uh
624
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:19.079
from your mouth to Netflix ears?
Uh yeah, I would love that.
625
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.360
I I don't have one right now, okay, but yeah, I mean
626
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:28.320
do zombies versus the Bronx UFOs versus
the Bronx ideas are endless man? So
627
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:31.599
many things? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah, uh no, I love it.
628
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:36.440
I I you might have inspired something, who knows? Okay, all
629
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.400
right, we'll have to talk about
that. Ye yeah. Yeah. And
630
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:43.400
let's let's talk a little bit about
ap Bio. This is one of those
631
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:47.159
incredible shows that you're telling your friend, like why aren't you watching this,
632
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:51.440
you know, and then it gets
big and then and then it you know
633
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.480
it, you know, it finds
new life on Peacock. It's like aby
634
00:48:55.519 --> 00:49:00.840
Bio was a dream come true.
Also, like I met Michae O'Brien,
635
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:07.519
the showrunner and the creator on SNL
and really clicked with him. We did
636
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:13.719
some really fun stuff. It was
some of my favorite videos, stuff like
637
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:17.440
Sad Mouse and Monster Piles on SNL
and we just had a really great relationship.
638
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:24.159
And yeah, he had sold this
pilot and I I was very lucky
639
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:30.239
to have been asked to direct it, and it was the first pilot I
640
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.239
did, so it was a big
deal and I had to sort of prove
641
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.639
myself And to this day, I
can't believe they okay some of the wild
642
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.920
visual ideas that we threw out,
that it's a wild show man, I
643
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.079
mean, yeah, but they were
very down. They were very into sort
644
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:52.000
of the the the wild scripts,
the interesting look. Yeah, and it
645
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:57.079
was really fun because like Mike and
I collaborated on SNL so much, so
646
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.239
it was just sort of like it
was the job, but it just also
647
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:04.440
felt like I'm working with my friend. And then I brought over Blake McClure,
648
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.800
who was a cinematographer who had shot
a lot of my SNL shorts.
649
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:16.599
So yeah, really it was a
really special special project because I've done other
650
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:22.880
pilots before and they don't all feel
that way, like where you forget the
651
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:28.280
responsibility and the stress, like it
felt really fun. So yeah, it
652
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.519
was a blast to work on that
show. And I kept coming back,
653
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:36.199
and I would keep coming back and
was still round. It was the It
654
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:42.159
was one of my favorite working experiences
and and the like I said, still
655
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:46.119
surprised that they let us go without
interesting color palette. I mean, all
656
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:51.559
that time working with Glenn Howerton,
is there is there any hope we might
657
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:55.440
see you direct a little bit of
a Sonny in the future, ever that
658
00:50:55.639 --> 00:51:00.920
conversation ever come up, or because
seeing what you can do on ap bio,
659
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.519
I would love to see what you
could do on Sonny. You know
660
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.960
you talk about those there's interesting color
palettes and stuff like. Yeah, as
661
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.960
wild as that show gets, like, I can't imagine, you know,
662
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:14.320
if you were free to run around
that world, what you could do.
663
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:19.039
Send him that email. Man,
let's go all right, I'm on it.
664
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:21.519
I'm on it. I'm on it. Oz No. I mean,
665
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.079
you know, it was I We
definitely talked about that a lot of anyone
666
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:29.920
that like, you know, go
for it. I definitely threw some some
667
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:32.719
hints there. But it was amazing
to see Glenn work. Like he is
668
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:39.000
so talented and he is a real
a real proper actor, and like he
669
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:44.320
was giving these like two page monologues
like the night before and he comes down
670
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:50.400
and he just like kills it,
and that is that's amazing to work with
671
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:53.119
because like you're just like it makes
your job some of you. You're just
672
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:59.599
literally an audience member too, just
watching this guy rip through a monologue like
673
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:04.440
it's not and he's he's he's something
else. He's really cool, he's really
674
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.239
good. Well talk about something else. Let's talk about what's next for Ozrodriguez.
675
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:13.639
You know we we've just now we're
getting the the WGA, that's that
676
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:19.079
strikes resolved or getting resolved. Still
working on the SAG after situation. But
677
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:22.079
once these things, once these resolutions
happen. Are there any projects you're planning
678
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:27.360
next anything you can share with us? Definitely planning some projects. Can't share
679
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:31.719
everything, but I will share that
neon this show I worked on, I
680
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:36.960
shot at the pilot. It's coming
out October nineteenth. It's a series on
681
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:40.360
Netflix and it's a comedic series about
this group of friends that moves to Miami
682
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.960
to make it in the reggaeton music
scene. It's kind of like Reggaeton Dave,
683
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:52.320
maybe reggaetn Entourage without the problematic stuff. And this is this is the
684
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.079
one with Tyler. Correct, Yeah, so this is the one with Tyler.
685
00:52:54.199 --> 00:53:00.639
So Tyler got that role because they
looked at his IMDb or but he
686
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:04.039
got the audition because they looked at
the IMDb and they saw him in that
687
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:07.079
cool photo with braids, and they
were this guy was a cool look,
688
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:12.400
and they came in for an audition. He nailed it and then they're like,
689
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.280
actually, why don't you use that
look? So he looks like that
690
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:22.079
in the show, all nice and
he actually like, kudos to him.
691
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.639
He It definitely feels like a different
character than than Miguel, Like it's really
692
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:31.559
it's really fun creating a different personality. So yeah, that's really exciting.
693
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:38.000
It it's a show about reggaeton and
it's a comedy and uh, you know,
694
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.960
going back to what we discussed the
show with Latinos, so we definitely
695
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:45.280
have some great representation there and hopefully
everybody likes it. I mean, it's
696
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.639
at the end of the day,
it's it's Raton is the soundtrack. But
697
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:53.039
it's about these three friends and their
relationships and basically how they started from the
698
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:58.840
bottom and want to get to the
top of the Okay, October nineteenth on
699
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.360
Netflix. So we're looking at like
what was just like eight eight eight episode
700
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:07.960
series ten episode like eight episodes,
eight episodes, eight episodes. Thirty minutes
701
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:10.320
goes by real quick. You can
even watch it twice the same day if
702
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:14.199
you want, we might Okay,
we got to check that one out.
703
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:15.320
We might have to have you come
back and talk about it then. If
704
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:21.000
that's you know, it's right around
this morn. But Oz, I got
705
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:25.599
to ask you. Let's let's get
hypothetical for a minute. Is there a
706
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:32.599
writer that you'd love to collaborate with
on a future project? Oh it's easy
707
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:37.239
to say what what star? What
what actor? What actress? But but
708
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:38.679
uh, but you know, as
a writer, you're a writer, Like,
709
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.360
is there a writer you'd like?
Man, if this guy would write
710
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.360
me something, this guy would write
me something, I'd love to direct it.
711
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:50.199
Anyone come to mind? No,
Uh, only because like, I
712
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:53.599
mean, there's obvious amazing screenwriters that
if I had a crack at it,
713
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:58.119
I would be like, yes,
please, I would do Aaron Sorkin thing
714
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.000
or something. But it's uh uh, it's not really about It's like I
715
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:07.519
just want to I would like to
keep reading or have that script that has
716
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:13.760
an interesting, amazing story with Latinos
in it, Like that's I just want
717
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.599
to see more of that. So
not necessarily I don't know who that person
718
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:20.840
is, but whoever that person is
that can deliver another great script with sort
719
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:25.400
of Latino identity and characters and and
and if it's fun, then that's the
720
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:32.360
person that work with. Okay,
let's say, whether we're talking film or
721
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:37.360
television, is there a franchise you'd
love to be involved with as a writer
722
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:40.880
or as a writer director or as
just a director, anything anything come to
723
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:45.159
mind there? You know what?
I uh, that's a great question.
724
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:54.519
I leve me some I do.
I love spy movies, so I I
725
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:59.880
would take any spy movie that you
throw on me. A mission impossible born
726
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:06.920
uh or yeah one bond, oh, one bond? There you go,
727
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:15.039
yeah, yeah, yeah, you
know what. I that's uh, that's
728
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:19.480
a great question for which I am
hopefully ill prepared, only because like I
729
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:23.599
don't even see myself, Like I
guess like I'm I'm truly like excited to
730
00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:32.000
work on stuff that has different kind
of heroes. And sometimes I because we
731
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:37.599
don't see these kind of people in
these bigger projects. My my immediate thought
732
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:39.360
is like I think we have to
create these projects. But you know,
733
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:44.519
I I was really down on Star
Wars for a little bit, and I
734
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:50.280
think and Or brought me back up. Oh gosh, yeah, you know,
735
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:55.360
I think I am of the generation
where something like Star Wars had a
736
00:56:55.480 --> 00:57:00.039
crazy impact. So like, I
guess if they call me for a show,
737
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:04.159
I'd be available. Well, I
mean, we got season two of
738
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.599
V and Door comming, so Felony's
got to get on the on the call
739
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.760
with you. I think you know
we could see a couple. Yeah,
740
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:15.320
come off alone, come on,
Dave, help us out. Ah.
741
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:20.840
Well, you know one more question
I have for you, whether whether we're
742
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:28.239
talking comfortability or you know, happiness. Where Where do you where? Where
743
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:30.159
you? Where are you best at? Well, I don't want to say
744
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:31.360
best at. Where are you?
Where do you? Where do you like
745
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:37.599
to work? Is it feature films
or is it television more because you've you've
746
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:39.440
had you, You've been in both
worlds, So like, where do you
747
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:45.840
Where do you like? Where do
you like being? I? I think
748
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:50.079
i'd be lying to you if I
didn't say I would love to keep making
749
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.880
more features, more movies. That
is so satisfying, so cool and so
750
00:57:53.960 --> 00:58:01.599
exciting and a different kind of challenge. But I also love TV and it's
751
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:07.559
a place where i've worked. Sorry, I've learned so much. So yeah,
752
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:09.159
like if I had to pick one
right now, I'd probably say I'd
753
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:14.360
love to make more movies. But
I also love working on TV because you
754
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:20.960
work on stuff that there's always something
to learn, and you get an opportunity
755
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.000
to like work with some big things
that you maybe couldn't afford in your smaller
756
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:29.519
movie. So yeah, ultimately would
like to make more films. Ultimately we'd
757
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:32.800
like to see more films from you, so as I can't thank you enough
758
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:39.400
for spending some time with us today. Definitely looking forward to October nineteenth,
759
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:46.199
or we can check out Neon on
Netflix and hopefully we're seeing another feature film
760
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:52.880
relatively soon from you. But thank
you for your time. We have loved
761
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:58.039
having y'all today. Thank you man. This is really fun, fun quote.
762
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:00.880
I trust me, I will definitely
be bugging you to get you back
763
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:04.480
because, uh, you know,
I love to talk more with you man.
764
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.159
Like you said at the beginning,
you know, if we're talking about
765
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.760
film, I'm in and we are
definitely in for that. So, uh,
766
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:14.280
we appreciate you, sir, and
we can't thank you enough. What
767
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:17.679
was the last great movie you saw
or the last movie that the last the
768
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:21.320
last Well, I'll tell you that's
a thank you. I don't I don't.
769
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:23.880
I don't usually get the good questions. Uh, but uh, my
770
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:27.920
time now, your time now,
okay, So I will tell you that
771
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:31.000
just last night I got to go
see you. We're talking Star Wars.
772
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:35.159
Just recently, Uh, I just
got to go see the Creator. Uh
773
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:44.400
new film visually stunning, an incredible
story. Hans Zimmer's score is just brilliant.
774
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:47.039
Uh you know really, it kind
of felt I haven't seen it.
775
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:52.079
I actually am gonna check the please
checking. I'm checking those show times right
776
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.679
now. I'm not being the no
no no, if you, if if
777
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:58.400
you, if I can, if
I can persuade you to go see the
778
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:02.039
Creator, I would love to hear
your thoughts on because I'm talking. I
779
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:06.719
see it a a friend of the
show, Dayton Johnson, who works on
780
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.280
the docum based seventy seven podcast.
We went and see this thing, and
781
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:14.920
my first comment to him when the
credits are rolling, this is amazing.
782
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.639
It actually felt like a Christopher Nolan
film. Did you did you get that
783
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:20.599
vibe? And He's like, I
kind of got that vibe. And you
784
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:22.599
know, I mean you got you
got guys like John David Washington, Kim
785
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:27.480
wan Anaby, I mean, You've
got some incredible performers in this film.
786
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:31.280
But man, absolutely incredible film.
I hope you I hope you check it
787
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:34.679
out because it's and it needs to
be seen on a big screen. It's
788
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.960
one of those films I think I'm
going today. I just found the one
789
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:40.320
in an hour, so I think
I can make it. Oh fantast All
790
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:42.960
right, Well I want to hold
you back, but real quick, I
791
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.480
gotta ask you last great movie that
you saw this this year? Go to
792
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:53.039
my letterbox, well that came out
this year? Or I saw how about
793
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:58.760
this? How about Oz Rodriguez recommends
this film? What what? What do
794
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:02.480
our listeners need to go see today
or go rent today or stream today?
795
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:06.880
What would you what would you have
them watch aside from Wants to Fight if
796
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:08.719
they haven't seen it, obviously,
aside from Miguel Wants to Fight. I
797
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:15.360
saw Past Lives. Actually I hadn't
seen it. That is a very wonderful
798
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:23.599
movie. Okay, that came out
this year and it is a romance and
799
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:30.800
it is wonderful. It's a wonderful
movie and it really yeah, I really
800
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:39.639
connected to it because it's it's about
these these uh, this man and a
801
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:46.480
woman that were childhood friends in in
South Korea. But then the woman that
802
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:52.639
the young girl, then leaves and
comes to America, and uh, they
803
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:58.079
sort of stay in touch and then
then in you know, years past and
804
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:04.239
he shows up in New York and
things get complicated. But uh, it
805
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:07.880
was it was really it was really
really nice, really nice, beautiful movie.
806
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:12.119
It's one of those movies where everything
seems very effortless and simple, but
807
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:20.159
nothing is effortless and simple. I
rewatched Sleepy Hollow, which was still amazing,
808
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:27.199
always amazing, Yes, so fun, and then I got oh,
809
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:30.880
I really enjoyed No One Will Save
You. That was really fun, okay,
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Hulu. Yeah, my co host
Brad Kozo, he was just telling
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me the other day, like,
hey, we checked this out. It's
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actually pretty cool. You might want
to let you might want to check it
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out. So yeah, I think, yeah, watch it on a big
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screen, watch it loud. I
think that one's it's a shame they didn't
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go to the theaters because that one's
really really fun. I will tell you
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anything else, okay. And then
a real weird movie that I saw.
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I sung songs from the second floor. Songs from the second floor. I
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have truly never seen anything like this. This is a Norwegian movie and it
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is about everything in life like I
don't. It's such a bizarre movie and
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it is directed by this guy called
Roy Anderson. And every scene is one
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take. There's not a lot of
camera movement, and it's big white shots
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and everything's made. Everything's a set, and it's very deadpan and sometimes that
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people have like grayish faces. Everything
I'm describing as wild. But by the
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end of it, I was like
really moved. So these are some of
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the crazy movies I've seen recently.
All right, well, there you have
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it, listeners. Turn on Hulu
watch Miguel Wants to Fight. Then turn
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on Netflix watch Vampires Versus the Bronx. And then when you when you got
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those two done. Check out Past
Lives, check out songs from the second
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Floor. Check out no One Will
Save You. Because we've been talking with
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Oz Rodriguez, and not only is
he giving us great films, he is
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giving us great film recommendations. Oz, thank you one more time and uh,
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listeners, we'll catch you next time. Thank you. Picture it.
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You are a star. We have
to show them that we're not just loser
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wannabes. Now, the three of
us currently live in the two thousand and
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nine Toyota Coal. I am impressed. You're right, you produced, you
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perform. You know how rare that
is. It'll be the biggest throng star
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in the world. Side soon,
one side so on the side one side
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one. Okay, this is our
destiny. You will not regret this,
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daddy, Oh mister yankee. That
okay, I'm gonna go