Dec. 11, 2025

Guillermo del Toro - Frankenstein: Part One of Two

Guillermo del Toro - Frankenstein: Part One of Two

David, Amber, and Angela have stitched together a bonus, two-part episode for you today! The trio have a lively conversation about Guillermo del Toro's passion project, Frankenstein!

Join the conversation as they explore del Toro's reimagining of Mary Shelley’s classic tale through his signature blend of gothic beauty, emotional depth, and monstrous humanity. The film's cinematography, bold performances, and intricate costume details are all under examination as they determine whether or not this may be the filmmaker's most personal creature film yet! Part 1/2

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There are many classic novels and stories that have been

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turned into some amazing films over the years. Jane Orry,

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to Kill a Mockingbird, le Mens rob to just name

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a few. Any favorites that you ladies can think of

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that you have enjoyed.

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Being a huge Jane Austen and Bronte Fan Bronte, Yes,

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I get as a you know, a little bit darker

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and because I know Amber and I have had a

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little exchange about the weathering right, But definitely with Jane Austen,

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like Emma Thompson did a fantastic job with since Insensibility.

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That is definitely one of my favorites and recommendations, as

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well as the ninety five Pride and Prejudice series adapted

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by Andrew Davies. So those classics I definitely highly recommend.

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I love the book Jane Eyre is one of my favorites,

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and I've yet to find a bad adaptation of it.

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I've seen them all. They're all really good. But I

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also love.

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Daphne du Maurier kind of like plagiarized it and wrote

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the book. Rebecca and Alfred Hitchcock did a great adaptation

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of that book. It is like no other version is

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as good as that movie.

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And I know you did an episode on Rebecca.

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Not too long ago here on a film by But yeah,

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that Hitchcock version is it just cannot be beat. It's

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so good.

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It's a good one. Great pics, great picks. Well, today

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we are going to discuss one in particular, a classic

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story written by Mary Shelley in a film by Guillomo

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de Toro in his twenty twenty five soon to be

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classic film Frankenstein Birth is.

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Not an hour hand? Is it that sparked the animation?

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Thought and soul? That is a concept. But this now

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their life.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back. I'm David Burns.

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Him Amber Lewis.

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Hi, I'm Angela Norris, and this is a film by

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podcast Amber Angela. I am beyond excited to discuss this

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masterpiece with the both of you. I knew once I

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saw this film a few weeks ago that we had

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to talk about it, and we had to do it soon. Amber.

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I know you were posting on Facebook right away that

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we had to somebody had to talk about this. You know,

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I have watched it so many times now and I

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got to tell you it just gets better and better mhm.

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Absolutely.

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There's always something new you either pick up on, you know,

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a ton of it, an element of you know, whether emotional,

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just to you know, observation and the production. I mean

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especially that, like you know, if you just watch it once,

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we're just kind of don't pay attention to the characters, just.

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Focus on the scenery and the and the.

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Design everything, because it is a overall is it just

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a complete work of art.

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And I know you're you're the one that first pointed

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out it was a masterpiece, and it was before I

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hadn't even seen it yet, so I'm like I was

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like rolling mising, whatever Amber not a masterpiece, for crying

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out loud, we don't have. Then I watched it. By

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the time I got in it's like, well crap, Well.

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I you know, have done two different episodes on Gamma

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del Torre's work. We did one over on Docking Day

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on the film Mimic, and then we did one here

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on the film Devil's Backbone, and I just listeners that

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have heard those episodes. No, I cannot gush about him enough.

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He is one of my favorite directors, and this is

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a passion project of his. He's wanted to do it

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for ever, and so the minute I heard that he

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was doing it, I was one hundred percent all in.

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And my only regret is that I did not make

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it to see it in the theater if they release it,

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like everybody needs to run and see it in the theater,

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because the scale of it and the production value is

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just out of this world.

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What it was only there for a week, wasn't it

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in the theater?

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It was very quick, sure, And I'm like when I.

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When I watched it, I was like, why did I not

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see this in the theater because it's just absolutely stunning

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and it needs to be seen on the biggest screen possible.

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Yes, nice, but schedule and time all oud.

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Yeah, life, kids in the way, and I'm you know,

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I am not one to rush to the theater like

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you know, big huge epic things and anything by Christopher Nolan,

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I know has to be seen in the theater.

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Oh yeah, you know.

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We went to see The New Superman. That was like,

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of course, have to go to see that in the theater.

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But then other things like you know, the intimacy of it.

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It's fine on a TV, like, I don't mind, but

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I was so just blown away by the detail in

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this movie that you know every like Angel was saying,

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every time you watch it, you notice something different, and

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so just imagine the greater layers that you'll get into

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seeing it on a big screen.

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Like, yeah, that's very, very true. I know typically we

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talk about these three facts in Trovia, but as you said,

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you know, we've already covered Del Toro with you and

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Jeff did with The Devil's Backbone, which is a great

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film by the way, if you've not seen the listeners,

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go check out that podcast and go check out that

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film because it's fantastic. But I did I did want

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to give a quote that del Tora had, because he's

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got a lot of them, but this one kind of

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made me giggle because because of who he is and

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his love, he says, if you're not operating on an

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instinctive level, you're not an artist. Reason over emotion is bullshit,

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absolute bullshit. We suffocate ourselves in rules. I find fantasy

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liberating and I love that quote. I love that quote

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so much from him, and to see his love just

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everything he's done, you can see his love get poured

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into it. So when we use the word masterpiece for Frankenstein,

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considering the work this guy has done that tells you

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what an amazing film Frankenstein is. So, but before we

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really continue on with that, just in case there is

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some crazy person out there who doesn't know the story

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of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein Abery, can you tell us a

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little bit about it please?

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Certainly.

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The story goes that doctor Victor Frankenstein, a brilliant but

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egotistical scientist, brings a creature to life in a monstrous

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experiment that ultimately leads to the undoing of both the

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creator and his try creation.

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Intect with Just.

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Where did you say that description was from?

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That's just the one on IMDb. It's very nice, short,

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sweet to the point.

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So because I'm I'm o c D with certain things,

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he technically wasn't a doctor.

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He was just a scientist. He was actually a college dropout.

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He wasn't for a doctor.

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So because I had to be careful when I was,

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Everybody's like, he's not He's not really a doctor, you know,

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maybe in his own mad world. But just just for

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fy f y, I reference and.

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Well and it's it's Frankenstein.

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Frank We'll get we'll get to that one.

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Yeah, I know, we're all going on our pick, that's

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for sure.

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Plus the obvious giveaway that he wasn't a doctor, I mean,

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the stitching skills, yeah, come on now, come on.

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Yeah, So just that little.

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bit about him loving the story. I mean, he says

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that he has loved the story of Frankenstein since he

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was like nine years old. Yeah, and this was like

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a pet project of his over the years, and it

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just never got to the point where he was ready

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to create it yet to bring it to the screen.

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And what really pushed him over the edge apparently was

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making Pinocchio for Netflix, because if you think about it,

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Pinocchio Frankenston kind of go hand in hand a little

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bit just because of the you know, the creature in Pinocchio,

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both trying to find that they want to be human,

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you know, that kind of thing. So, you know, as

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the Iron film, yeah, absolutely was. So the Iron was hot,

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and he decided, you know, to go ahead and do it,

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do it. And I'm sure Netflick was probably in the

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contract with Netflix, Hey I will do Pinocchio for you

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if you let me do Frankenstein.

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So well, and the smart thing that Netflix did was

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pretty much gave him carte blanche to do his movie.

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You know, he famously had huge struggles with the studio

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on Mimic and has never again been willing, you know,

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to compromise his vision and will only work with studios.

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That will you know, support him in that.

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And so I think, you know, there's been a lot

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of arguing online about you know, is it a faithful

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adaptation and things that he changed and stuff like that,

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but you're not really going to see this to see

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and according to Hoyle Mary Shelley adaptation, you're going to

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see this to see a Gamma del Tora movie, and

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the fact that it's this labor of love. You know,

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he saw this movie, like you said, when he was

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nine and his grandma took him to see it, and

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it like it was like the you know, scales fell

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from his eyes, like it completely was one of those

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just life changing moments and has always stuck with him.

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And so I was just so excited when I read

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that he was finally getting to do it, and then

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to see the finished product is like, you know, like

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want to give.

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Him a hug, like, good job.

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I'm sure he's walking on cloud nine now. As good

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as it turned out.

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There'sh Yeah, you can definitely tell this has been in

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his mind and his heart and his soul and his blood,

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you know, his whole life. And and uh, you know,

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like you're saying him being able to work with a

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studio of you know, hey, trusting his vision and you know,

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because while there have been several adaptations and you know,

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spin off kind of things, you know, for someone to

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really while there were changes, you know, as far as

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the character relationships with with one another from you know,

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the book, he didn't lose sight of the heart and

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soul and the themes and everything of this which which

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I really enjoyed. And you know, and I'm not such

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a stick with that. If you can, you know, make

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it your own reimagine, but not losing that core, that

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that soul of it all them up paired to you.

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And like I said in my review, if there was

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one person definitely you know, to entrust bringing that to

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a new adaptation, it would be del Toro.

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I the love that he shows for not just the

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original nineteen thirty one film, but for the source material itself.

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I mean, the only thing I regret about leaving Twitter

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is not getting to follow him on Twitter anymore because.

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I've been off there for over a year now.

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Yeah, he's such a marshmallow.

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And like when they were shooting this film, he went

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to Mary Shelley's home and like just left two roses

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on the doorstep. Oh wow, you know, and he used

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her handwriting as the font for the credits. I mean,

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just little things like that that you know he loves

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and respects her work. You know, it wasn't just the

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Boris Karlot film that got back to him, right.

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And I really appreciate that.

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Sorry, Dave, didn't mean to, but since you brought up

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you know, del Toro, you know, really acknowledging Mary Shelley's

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work genius on her own, because I mean she did

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write this in about what eighteen eighteen, so obviously thinking

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of that time period and her being a woman. Because

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some funny when I did watch the nineteen thirty one

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Frankenstein and notice in the credits.

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Yeah, oh god, okay, you.

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Caught this too, that it's not the story by Mary Shelley,

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it's by missus Percy B.

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Shelley.

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And I literally put, I took my remote pause and

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I'm like, what the.

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You know, what is that time period?

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Damn it, you know, and it's just like without this woman,

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and you know, and you know how the story came

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to be, and you know the friendships that she had,

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you know, like you know, Lord Byron and and and

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now you know her husband being supportive in this and

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then you know, basically kind of challenging each other to

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come up with an appropriate ghost story. But yeah, as

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soon as I saw that in nineteen there were on credit,

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I was like, I'm like, I just died a little.

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Understandably I would have too. It's just it's aggravating, it

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absolutely aggravating. Yeah, It's it's funny that you're hitting all

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on this because while doing my research, I came across

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an article that really hit home about this film. Now

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these are not my words, but are spot on about

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the film. The article reads, most of the previous Frankenstein

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films went after the horror aspect and truly missed what

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Mary Shelley meant in her book, and Dettorero captured it brilliantly.

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Mary Shelley expert Julie Carson says that Total's take is

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more faithful than most, not in plot, but in spirit.

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It's a story still told through Victor in the creature's eyes,

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still bound by guilt, but now rooted in emotion rather

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than ambition. Victor's cruelty isn't just scientific obsession anymore. It's

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inherited trauma, a violent father, and need to prove worth,

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a cycle of shame that echo through every scene.

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Absolutely, and I think quite of you know that new

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uh you know, uh, that generational trauma you know that

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has been talked a lot a lot more you know,

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in recent years. I think that uh, including that and

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and and adding fuel to Victor's story. You know, while

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it's skewed from the book, I you know, I understand

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those changes, and it definitely helped support again the the

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root the heart of of those you know subjects, including

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you know, passing on you know trauma, not you know,

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sacrificing you know, a reality for you know, greatness, but

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not really having that long term sight of seeing consequences

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of our actions, are really properly thinking things room of

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you know what I could you know, uh to you know,

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to quote Jeff Goldblum, you know we could, but should

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we think you know it talks about the dinosaurs. Uh So, yeah,

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that that definitely should resonate with a lot of people,

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and also just the general of you know, finding your

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place in the world, finding your purpose.

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Why am I here?

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Kindness without judging a book by its cover, and having

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the like this ideal expectations rather than just letting things

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come naturally and.

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To become who we need to be.

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And helping each other, you know, you know, figure that out,

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be accept wanting to belong you know all those points.

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No, absolutely, and that's what's well said. I mean, you know,

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we we know he made changes for this, but it's

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in my opinion, it's it's del Toro being as brilliant

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as it is. And I'm gonna use brilliant because it's brilliant.

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Absolutely, I mean the I mean calling them changes, I

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don't even want to call them changes because it feels

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like it's down plane or making it as if it's

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less than you know, personal source.

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But but you know.

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not a faithful retelling. It is an adaptation of the

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story that you already know. And you know, like you said,

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when I started, you know, Day challenged us to pick

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the other versions that we liked, and so I was

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looking like, okay, well, I need to look at because

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I know I'm forgetting some you know, so I like googled,

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you know, all the Frankenstein movies.

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And there's like hundreds of that.

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I mean so many, and even if you kind of

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branch off to ones that don't necessarily fit, but they

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kind of are the same kind of story. And so

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when you look at that, like, why would you just

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tell the same story again again again without making it

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your own sensibility?

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And you know, I think we all knew when going

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in that.

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If you've ever seen any other del Tora movie, you

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know that the monster is going to be hugely empathetic

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character in this, or should say, the creature. But at

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any rate, I always forget because I'm always so captivated

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by del Toro's female characters and the creatures, the fairy

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tale beings. You know that he puts in his films

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that are supposed to be scary but not, or supposed

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to be a villain but aren't, And I always forget

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that he has absolutely diabolical villains.

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And so when Victor, you know he kind of.

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Is leaning that way anyway from the very beginning, but

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when he finally makes that turn and goes full villain.

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Mode, Like I had to stop the movie. I was so.

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Upset the first time I saw it, I was like,

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this freaking guy, Oh my god, you're the worst, you know,

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And I just had to pause and take a minute

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because it was so upsetting. And then, you know, my

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I was watching it with Liam and he looked at

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me and he was like, we just watched Penn's Labyrinth

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like three days ago. Why are you surprised Victor turned

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out to be like the worst human imaginable.

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It's true, he did, yes, and then with you, you know,

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bringing up you know how he loves his monsters and

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being empathetic. What I really liked about his presentation of

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the creature, and actually I kind of found it cool

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that he talked about it. Del Toro said, what I

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wanted was for the creature to be a newborn, something pristine,

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something beautiful, because if Victor has been thinking about it

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for decades since he was a kid, he's going to

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create a work of art and not an accident victim

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or somebody coming out of the ICU looking at you,

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brun as Frankenstein monster. He needed to look beautiful, like

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a baby, like a sort of essence of a human being.

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You have to start with nothing and then evolve into

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a full human being who for the first time at

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the end of the movie, makes his own decision. So

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I really liked that that was his you know, approach,

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that he wasn't out to This wasn't intended to.

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Be a monster, you know.

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And you can even see that too with the makeup

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and you know, the cost and just how you know,

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and I know we'll get to you know, the performances

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and stuff, but you know, how the creature was embodied.

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But I really loved that presentation and that visual and.

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That's what he had had said about that, because that was.

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One of the first things I noticed was you know,

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what he was made what the creatures made of?

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Yes, well, and the people that he interacts with that

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are truly empathetic souls. Their first reaction is that, like,

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maybe he was a soldier that was injured or something.

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Like Elizabeth, the first thing she says to him is

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who hurt you? You know, and even you know, the

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blind man was just assumed that, like he was a

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soldier that had been wounded and like didn't have his

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memory and stuff like that. So the empathy and the

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kindness that they lead with in contrast to Victor's contempt

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is just it's so stark and so brutal. It's just

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just amazing.

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It is. It's funny that we talked earlier about how

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watching this movie, you know, over and over it just

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gets better and better. This movie is like an onion.

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You peel away one layer, you find something new. You

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peel it another layer and you find something different. It's

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crazy on how layered this film is. By del Toro.

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One of the things I found interesting is if you

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watch closely as the movie goes along, the creature starts

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walking more upright like a man, huh, whereas Victor starts

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stooped over like a beast to show you who the

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real monster is. I mean, that's brilliant contrast.

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Yes, and all those little details like shout out to

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all of those people.

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On social media that are have sharper.

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Eyes than mine that pointed things out that I may

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have missed because little details like on the back of

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Elizabeth stresses it looks like a spine. Yes, okay, And

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you know, if you watch on Netflix, they have I

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don't know if you guys watched it, they have a

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making of documentary that is just amazing, and they go

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through every detail, They go through the costumes and the

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makeup and the you know, sets and everything, and like

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her the patterns on her clothes were made of you know,

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like butterflies and blood cells and just all these little

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details that just make everything, you know, to David's point,

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so much richer.

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And did you notice in that documentary, del Toro had

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to approve every single thing.

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He started in makeup and special effects, and so he

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knows how to do every job that he hires you

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to do. So I love that he hires these true

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artisans to help realize his vision. And you know, he

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said other people, other directors will put their office like

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by production and accounting.

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He's like, I put my office in the art department.

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And you know, and I love in the documentary as well,

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like it shows you know, him getting the scenes ready.

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He's got like his hands in there, like he's manipulating

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the dummy for the creature, you know, and stuff like that.

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Like he you know, is puts his blood, sweat and

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tears in like every single molecule of his films.

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And it's just amazing.

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You literally can say he is a hands on director.

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I mean and why wouldn't you want your office being

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right next to the art department. I mean all that

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energy and that that that in the air and just

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feeding off of each other. Why would you want to

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be in next to in the account or you know

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something dull you.

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Know well, and the way he gets them all to

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work together because things that the costumer did informed the

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set decoration and the lighting choices and the color palette

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and vice versa, you know, which just makes energy.

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And yes, yes, everybody feeds off Del Toro's energy. Everybody does.

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And that's why it turns out so well is because

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of that. He's got that love, that passion that just

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goes into everybody that's around you.

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And it only makes them better at their own particular

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craft too, you know, with that, so you know, even

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though they have, you know, their amazing talent you know,

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on their own and then being you know, pushed to

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that next level by someone at the helm like Del Toro. Mean,

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who wouldn't want that kind of direction and feedback and

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hands on and be like dude, because you're just gonna

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make me better at you know, my contribution to this

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you know huge you know production.

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So heck, yeah, what do you let.

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Me know what can I do? You know what it

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means really push to that level and challenging. So I

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mean that, and you know we'll see those people progress

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and other types of you know, films and so forth,

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you know, because of them being under the guidance of him.

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When I saw it when on a writer just did

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an interview talking about her career and she was talking

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about working with Tim Burton, and she said that he's

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one of the few directors that doesn't direct from video village.

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He is like right next to the camera in your face,

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like directing you every second, like you are in the

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moment together. And Garama does the same thing, like he

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is right there, you know, guiding them through. And so

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you get these amazing performances you know that you know

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are so gently guided, and you know it's a collaboration

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that just you know, not a lot of productions have.

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They don't. And that's why he wants control over everything,

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because he doesn't want the studio to say anything. And

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I'm one hundred percent behind him on that for sure. Well,

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I tell you what, let's go ahead and take our

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break and we come back. We'll start talking about this cast.

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We have a lot to talk about. So we will

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be right back. Welcome back, everybody where. We are continuing

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our discussion of Guielmrlo de Toro's Frankenstein with Amber and Angela. So, ladies,

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let's talk about this brilliant cast. And again, I want

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to keep using the word brilliant because everywhere you look

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in this film, it just is everywhere. So let's start

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off with the man himself, Victor Frankenstein. I saw Oscar Isaac,

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so I know he was the only choice for Del Toro.

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He didn't want anybody else. He went right for Oscar Isaac.

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And I know Oscar has done quite a few things

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over the years, but I gotta tell you, without question,

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this is his best performance.

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Yes, yes, yes, I mean we can argue later about

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the fact that Sinners is still the best movie of

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the year.

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And I wanted to win all.

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Of the things, but I would not be sad if

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Oscar Isaac won and all the awards for this performance,

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because my god, yeah, he is amazing and I hate

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him so much in this movie, like I love him

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as an actor, but oh my god, by the end

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of the movie, you're just like, well, somebody please shift

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this guy and put us all out of our misery

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because he's the worst.

478
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:01.640
He is, and he plays it so well. That tells

479
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:03.480
you an actor does a great job when you hate

480
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:04.519
them so much.

481
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:05.720
Yep.

482
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.960
Absolutely, Because at forre, you know, you're kind of supporting, like, Okay,

483
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.759
this guy's got this dream is ambition.

484
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.119
You know, he's obviously still.

485
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.720
Hurt, you know, the trauma losing you know, his mother

486
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:20.200
and you know in this case, you know, and then blame,

487
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.720
you know, blaming you know, the father who was an

488
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:30.119
actual doctor and uh and but you know, unfortunately along

489
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:35.440
the way he's still in that grieving trauma process, still

490
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:40.240
skipped several levels of emotional growth and uh, you know

491
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:43.839
really you know, human connection. And so bringing it back

492
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:46.160
around where you know, Oscar has all you know, this

493
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.359
trauma and and you know, obsession to to you know,

494
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.599
work through and then like you said, seeing how at

495
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:55.039
first you're you're kind of rooting for him, and then

496
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.400
you're seeing all these things that he's really overlooking and missing.

497
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:00.640
And then especially when the creature comes into and it

498
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.839
just is just a oh, it is a steep downhill

499
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.119
from there until you're like, oh my god, in it.

500
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:08.359
But I love how he gives you hints of it

501
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:12.759
in the beginning, because when he's in that tribunal scene,

502
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:16.200
that scene is very upsetting to me because he already

503
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:22.559
shows the contempt for life when he reanimates that corpse.

504
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.119
And the scene and you don't know.

505
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:31.200
Like what consciousness this thing has, you know, and he

506
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.519
just plugs it in, makes it do a trick, and

507
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.039
then just brutally unplugs it and it sort of gasps

508
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.920
as it, you know, kind of dies again, so to speak.

509
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.160
And he doesn't he's not even really looking at it,

510
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.720
like he's not even it's like he turned on a

511
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:52.039
machine or something that is without feeling, and just the51200:28:52.160 --> 00:28:57.960



absolute contempt for you know, whatever it is now it's51300:28:58.000 --> 00:28:58.960



it was a human.51400:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.599



Yeah. Even his line but please always works when he51500:29:02.599 --> 00:29:06.799



says please, yeah, he either.51600:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.839



Snaps his fingers or he taps the table or something51700:29:08.920 --> 00:29:13.279



like really condescending like that, and it's just so just51800:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.799



horrific to me, Like, I don't, I don't know.51900:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.400



That just got to me. That scene really bugs me.52000:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.279



That was hard to watch. And then you're like, who52100:29:23.359 --> 00:29:23.880



raised you?52200:29:24.839 --> 00:29:31.000



Well? I mean, yes, he wasn't doing good from the52300:29:31.000 --> 00:29:33.559



get go, speaking of a guy who you just immediately52400:29:33.559 --> 00:29:35.720



hate as soon as he appears on the screen.52500:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.559



His voice even like, oh, everything about him is such52600:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.119



a smarmy.52700:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.359



Yes, sure, absolutely, the guy is.52800:29:46.359 --> 00:29:50.440



So yeah, he is just a trail of red flags.52900:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.759



But I just can't get over how, you know, other53000:29:57.079 --> 00:30:02.039



Frankenstein's because there's so much violence in the second act,53100:30:02.920 --> 00:30:07.759



you don't really focus on how broken or evil or53200:30:07.799 --> 00:30:13.119



misguided or you know, morally defunct they are. Where this53300:30:13.240 --> 00:30:17.480



is just it's like all on Oscar, Like it's all you.53400:30:17.640 --> 00:30:20.079



There's no getting out of it, there's no excuses, there's53500:30:20.119 --> 00:30:22.920



no you know, this is the evil that you are.53600:30:23.799 --> 00:30:30.839



And to just play that despicable villain, I mean, it's just.53700:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.599



And he just goes deep and but with trying to53800:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.400



you know, garter favor from the audience of but you know,53900:30:39.480 --> 00:30:42.599



it's for science and figure things out, and it's.54000:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.119



You know, an ode to his you know mother, and54100:30:45.160 --> 00:30:45.799



you know, you're.54200:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.319



Just like, so is it though, Yeah, I'm like that's54300:30:49.359 --> 00:30:53.960



some sure blame the woman for you, you're crazy.54400:30:54.599 --> 00:31:00.720



Yeah, if anybody needs fix, did you well?54500:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.920



And like the one in the story, kind of the54600:31:03.960 --> 00:31:08.599



redeeming through line is that he and Elizabeth originally are54700:31:09.640 --> 00:31:11.920



fiance's and really do love each other.54800:31:11.960 --> 00:31:12.880



And that's like his.54900:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.400



One kind of redeeming thing is that he really does55000:31:15.480 --> 00:31:20.480



love this other person. So he does have some kindness55100:31:20.480 --> 00:31:24.720



and some goodness in him somewhere. We're here, it's just55200:31:24.799 --> 00:31:25.759



gross and creepy.55300:31:25.480 --> 00:31:29.359



Because he's a ball on his brother's girl. And yeah,55400:31:29.519 --> 00:31:31.960



like it's just gross, like.55500:31:31.440 --> 00:31:32.160



Like dude, man.55600:31:32.640 --> 00:31:33.640



And I love that she.55700:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.039



Does not even fall for it for even like a55800:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.640



marrill a second, Like she calls him out on his55900:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.079



bullshit the moment she meets him, and I just think56000:31:42.119 --> 00:31:42.720



that is.56100:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.200



Like Chef's case and again on her wedding day.56200:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.799



Yes, you capable of not telling the lie, you know?56300:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.160



Yeah? Mia Goth was awesome as Elizabeth.56400:31:53.039 --> 00:31:54.960



I have never seen her in anything, have you.56500:31:55.119 --> 00:31:59.599



Well, she's done horror films. I recognize her from X.56600:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.440



That's where I first saw her was the movie X.56700:32:03.599 --> 00:32:07.119



She was also win. Did you ever see the movie Everest? Yeah?56800:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.440



She played Meg Weathers in Everest. Oh yeah, But she's56900:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.160



not been in a ton of stuff. But she's just57000:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.519



now starting to get a name for herself because of57100:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.799



the horror films like X and Maxine and stuff like that.57200:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.720



In Pearl, so she started to make a name for herself.57300:32:22.759 --> 00:32:26.480



But I thought she was brilliant as Elizabeth. She was intelligent,57400:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.440



she was she was not fooled by anybody. She wasn't57500:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.960



gonna fall for for for a Victor at all. So57600:32:33.200 --> 00:32:34.559



I love the way she played that.57700:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.680



And her humanity is so beautiful.57800:32:37.759 --> 00:32:42.920



That scene where she first meets the creature and you know,57900:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.599



she puts her his hand on her throat to teach58000:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.240



him how to talk like and then the whole thing58100:32:49.240 --> 00:32:53.599



with the leaves, the leaf Oh my god, just to58200:32:53.720 --> 00:32:58.079



see someone just exude such kindness and empathy is it's58300:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.359



really hard to play without looking like you're just the58400:33:01.519 --> 00:33:06.559



saint that's perfect and unflawed human. And she comes off58500:33:06.599 --> 00:33:10.839



as very real but interested in the natural world in58600:33:10.880 --> 00:33:15.119



a way that Victor just has no capacity for.58700:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.519



Or she was teaching him like a kid. You know,58800:33:19.519 --> 00:33:21.559



we'll go back to what you were talking about. He58900:33:21.640 --> 00:33:25.440



was a newborn that, you know, del Torah wanted. I59000:33:25.559 --> 00:33:27.519



just her line when she goes is this for me?59100:33:28.240 --> 00:33:28.400



You know?59200:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.920



I I love that so much because it showed that59300:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.599



that love, that innocent she had for this creature in59400:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.839



front of her. She didn't see it as a monster59500:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.759



or anything. Like that she saw of somebody who's new59600:33:41.119 --> 00:33:45.079



and just learning things in life, and she was respecting59700:33:45.079 --> 00:33:46.960



the things that she was he was doing for her,59800:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.000



and she was returning that to him. I love that59900:33:50.039 --> 00:33:51.759



scene so much well.60000:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.079



And the patience that she shows. You know, Victor tried60100:33:55.119 --> 00:33:59.880



for like thirty point two seconds, yes the creature anything,60200:34:00.680 --> 00:34:02.640



you know, and then lacked him in the basement, like60300:34:02.839 --> 00:34:07.799



he just had no concept of how humans evolve and60400:34:07.880 --> 00:34:13.960



grow and no patience whatsoever for discovery, you know, kind60500:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.400



of going back to what Angela was saying about Jurassic Park, Like,60600:34:17.159 --> 00:34:19.360



you know, Jeff Goblum has another great line where he says,60700:34:19.400 --> 00:34:21.800



you stood on the shoulders of geniuses and you took60800:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.800



the next step, like you didn't earn the knowledge for yourself,60900:34:24.840 --> 00:34:28.039



and neither did Victor. Like he it wasn't like he61000:34:28.239 --> 00:34:33.880



studied life. He studied the bits that make life that61100:34:34.719 --> 00:34:35.920



were meaningless to him.61200:34:35.960 --> 00:34:40.239



They were just tools, yep, Like where's your curiosity? You know,61300:34:40.440 --> 00:34:44.199



that sense of wonder that really desire, you know, to learn?61400:34:44.239 --> 00:34:46.360



You just wanted basically.61500:34:46.360 --> 00:34:50.119



Shortcuts and you know, how how can I get to this?61600:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.159



Just to accomplish it for the sake of accomplishing it61700:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.960



or you know, proven daddy wrong, proven, you know, the61800:34:57.039 --> 00:35:01.639



actual academic, you know, peers wrong, so forth. But yeah,61900:35:01.679 --> 00:35:05.880



you've got this basically this kid and a diaper chained62000:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.599



to stone in a wet, dirty, damp basement.62100:35:10.920 --> 00:35:13.679



Because what Victor fears for his life.62200:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.760



Well and doesn't even give him like the basic comfort.62300:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.199



He's not allowed clothes, nothing, he's not allowed warmth, he's62400:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.159



not like no, he didn't even put him in like62500:35:24.159 --> 00:35:25.239



a comfortable person.62600:35:25.320 --> 00:35:25.559



Sell.62700:35:25.639 --> 00:35:30.719



He just chained him to the wall, like the hell yeah.62800:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.440



And like you said, Amber giving him all thirty point62900:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.639



two seconds. I was like, Okay, First of all, he63000:35:36.599 --> 00:35:42.480



after the initial electrical shock into the creature, he gives63100:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.800



it like two point six seconds before it didn't work.63200:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.920



I'm a failure. Oh here we go yep.63300:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.519



And then and then, like you said, and there's that63400:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.199



those little inner the scenes of you know, the interactions,63500:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.280



which you know, I kind of even haven't watch it63600:36:00.320 --> 00:36:01.639



a couple of times, I still got to kind of63700:36:01.639 --> 00:36:05.760



struggle to remember because he just was frustrated with him63800:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.519



for only saying his name while like you know, shaving63900:36:08.599 --> 00:36:12.320



his head, and I'm like, where are the books where?64000:36:12.440 --> 00:36:14.480



First of all this guy still doesn't have you haven't64100:36:14.519 --> 00:36:15.480



given him a shirt?64200:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.079



Well, and I have a theory about the name thing64300:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.320



that I just got when I watched it again today64400:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.679



because it just broke my heart. He keeps saying the64500:36:26.760 --> 00:36:30.519



name because the first victor that he met that he64600:36:30.599 --> 00:36:33.679



connects that name to is the victor that woke up64700:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.840



and was excited, showed him the sunlight, showed him his hand,64800:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.840



was kind and gentle and excited to see him. And64900:36:42.960 --> 00:36:47.360



I think he's constantly crying out for where is that person?65000:36:47.519 --> 00:36:51.679



Where is the victor that I first met? Where is65100:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.360



the one that was happy to see me?65200:36:53.760 --> 00:36:56.719



That was like a very good tender moment that you know,65300:36:56.840 --> 00:36:58.440



lasted five point three seconds.65400:36:58.519 --> 00:36:59.800



Yeah, that's all.65500:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.400



We're quantifying everything we are.65600:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.239



How about Victory going back to what his dad did65700:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.079



to him by smacking his face but for not learning65800:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.320



something to the creature?65900:37:10.719 --> 00:37:14.079



Yes, like you know, yeah, because face is vanity, but66000:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.480



he didn't want to hurt his hands because that's what.66100:37:16.440 --> 00:37:17.480



He would be using to create.66200:37:17.480 --> 00:37:21.719



But yeah, I'm like, dude, do you need to own66300:37:21.800 --> 00:37:28.920



some more mirrors and for some literal reflect reflection and66400:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.079



but yeah, that all that that, Yeah, that that bothered me.66500:37:32.119 --> 00:37:36.320



I felt that slapped to the face that and just no,66600:37:36.800 --> 00:37:40.519



like he said, no, no, patience, No, where's that wonder where?66700:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.159



And like you know, I mentioned.66800:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.039



In my review, like he just expected him to just66900:37:45.079 --> 00:37:48.199



you know what, get upright, start tap dancing and start67000:37:48.360 --> 00:37:54.519



you know, reciting Shakespeare and you know he equals zmc squared,67100:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.000



which hadn't been known yet, but you know for the partment,67200:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.679



you know, all all this knowledge and stuff and and again,67300:38:00.880 --> 00:38:06.719



but from not really going through the appropriate learning process,67400:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.679



even as an emotional being as well as a student.67500:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.559



It's like he just completely was.67600:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.079



Like, no, I don't want to do you know, the67700:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.039



fundamentals of this what do you what do you mean?67800:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.079



I'm supposed to be a dad and a teacher and67900:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.639



a mental you know. It was like so it was68000:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.800



pretty very much at that point of Maria knew, you know,68100:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.599



but after that, I'm like, oh my god, I want68200:38:29.679 --> 00:38:34.280



you to suffer such dire consequences for your behavior to68300:38:34.400 --> 00:38:35.079



this creature.68400:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.400



Well, and he also he doesn't doesn't show any empathy68500:38:39.400 --> 00:38:43.719



for humans either, because I noticed again, like like you said,68600:38:43.760 --> 00:38:44.280



every time you.68700:38:44.280 --> 00:38:48.639



Watch it, you see something new. When Crystal Valtz gives.68800:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.920



Him the reveal that he is ill and this is68900:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.960



why he's funding this research, is that he is hoping69000:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.719



to you know, be able to have a new body69100:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.719



himself because he's dying.69200:39:01.119 --> 00:39:02.280



This horrific death.69300:39:02.280 --> 00:39:06.159



Like he's describing this horrible tortoise, horrific death that he's69400:39:06.199 --> 00:39:10.960



looking down the barrel at and Victor the whole time,69500:39:11.039 --> 00:39:14.639



if you watch Oscar, Isaac is not listening to him69600:39:15.039 --> 00:39:18.679



at all. He's like, look, he's nervous because the storm69700:39:18.800 --> 00:39:23.239



is beginning. He needs the electricity to reanimate the creature.69800:39:23.480 --> 00:39:25.559



So he's kind of like, Okay, you know, it's all69900:39:25.639 --> 00:39:27.719



very sad. Can you shut up because I have to70000:39:27.760 --> 00:39:29.559



go during this machine.70100:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.159



Like, oh, you're dying.70200:39:31.239 --> 00:39:33.280



Well, anyways, I gotta hoo for you.70300:39:34.079 --> 00:39:38.400



I got a lightning bolt to catch see you on70400:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.679



the flip side. And along with the vein of just.70500:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.920



Lack of acknowledgement and since you brought it up, I'll70600:39:46.920 --> 00:39:53.199



bring it up. But the end where Elizabeth is shot,70700:39:54.199 --> 00:39:58.360



when Victor is aiming for the creature but it gets70800:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.360



it's just like it.70900:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.000



Doesn't even don't know, I didn't do that.71000:40:02.440 --> 00:40:07.360



The guy and the yeah, yeah it was his fault,71100:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.280



you know, his fault because you know she was trying71200:40:09.320 --> 00:40:11.239



to protect him, so it's it's his fault.71300:40:11.280 --> 00:40:13.800



So he blamed the creature for Christoph Walstein.71400:40:14.639 --> 00:40:14.719



Ye.71500:40:16.159 --> 00:40:19.119



And then and then you know when he's walking by her,71600:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.199



now that you know, body on the on the rock,71700:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.000



and he's no his goal just like that catching that71800:40:25.079 --> 00:40:27.000



lightning bolt. No, I just got to catch his creature.71900:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.800



I whatever, Like it was just a dead squirrel line72000:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.119



on the road, which I still get upset and right72100:40:33.199 --> 00:40:35.599



when I drive by, so I'm not you know, knocking72200:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.280



down or you know, lessening the death of the squirrel.72300:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.960



But it was just that same attitude of and then72400:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.360



like no, I'm like, oh my god, I'm like, you72500:40:45.440 --> 00:40:46.760



have like no redemption arc.72600:40:47.519 --> 00:40:49.000



He doesn't. He really cares about himself.72700:40:49.159 --> 00:40:51.199



Yeah, I mean even at that point, it was just72800:40:51.199 --> 00:40:55.760



no accountability, no response, Like still, no, maybe I did72900:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.800



do something wrong, but not in the way he assumed73000:40:59.800 --> 00:41:02.280



he'd it wrong by you know, create an abomination, which73100:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.320



I do have a little side rant for later. I'll73200:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.239



hold off, you know, not to not to take over anything.73300:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.320



But that ship has sailed, that's already gone.73400:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.840



And what you're talking about.73500:41:14.159 --> 00:41:19.679



Control of this conversation. We let him think he was73600:41:19.719 --> 00:41:23.039



a control like right for the and then I was like, yeah.73700:41:23.039 --> 00:41:23.360



You're.73800:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.400



Well, I do want to talk about another person who73900:41:29.440 --> 00:41:34.119



deserves an Oscar, and that is Jacob Lordy. Yes, replace74000:41:34.679 --> 00:41:38.719



the creature because he takes the creature to a whole74100:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.639



new level. He is a master. And as you both ladies,74200:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.679



you know, acting with your eyes is something that you're74300:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.599



taught to do and you know to perform, and he74400:41:49.639 --> 00:41:54.159



does such an incredible job of facial expressions, his eye movements,74500:41:54.280 --> 00:42:01.119



everything that it just shows you the innocence, the anger,74600:42:01.480 --> 00:42:06.400



the fear, the heartbreak, everything, every emotion you can think of.74700:42:06.920 --> 00:42:10.000



You can see it in his face when he's supposed74800:42:10.039 --> 00:42:16.239



to do it. And the casting of this guy was perfect. Well, no,74900:42:16.360 --> 00:42:18.679



he wasn't original, He wasn't the original person who was75000:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.559



supposed to play that. But thank god it did work75100:42:21.599 --> 00:42:24.559



its way out because this guy deserves an Oscar for75200:42:24.639 --> 00:42:25.360



this damn role.75300:42:25.559 --> 00:42:29.639



Well, and not only that, but through full body prosthetic.75400:42:30.119 --> 00:42:31.679



Yes, like ten hours, wasn't it.75500:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.239



Yeah, he would start at two in the morning, get75600:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.920



done it like two in the afternoon, and then you know,75700:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.679



be able to do his scenes and to be able75800:42:41.719 --> 00:42:45.159



to have that kind of expression, you know, when you're75900:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.800



under just all these layers to use that to inform76000:42:49.920 --> 00:42:56.599



your performance rather than hinder. It is a singular.76100:42:56.960 --> 00:43:01.119



Talent, agreed. And I could imagic sitting in that chair76200:43:01.119 --> 00:43:03.440



that long. I could not. What would you do? I76300:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.000



mean you're just literally playing on your phone. I guess, yeah,76400:43:06.119 --> 00:43:06.559



I mean.76500:43:06.519 --> 00:43:10.880



Just watch movies on your iPad. And yeah, some actors76600:43:10.880 --> 00:43:12.360



have said that like they doze off.76700:43:12.920 --> 00:43:14.760



I could see that like other actors that have.76800:43:14.719 --> 00:43:18.960



Gone through it, you know, for like superhero movies and stuff. Yeah,76900:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.719



like it would be a super exercise and you know,77000:43:22.880 --> 00:43:26.119



like you're breathing and you know, because I'm sorry, I77100:43:26.159 --> 00:43:29.320



have like a really big personal space bubble I have,77200:43:29.480 --> 00:43:35.320



Like these people painting all over your body just sounds torturous,77300:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.199



you know, and the stuff's not comfortable. I mean that77400:43:38.239 --> 00:43:42.119



those for sex are hot and itchy and all sorts.77500:43:42.199 --> 00:43:46.280



But you know, Germo said in his in that documentary,77600:43:47.000 --> 00:43:48.239



and I kind of wish.77700:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.400



I get on hear it because it's so sad.77800:43:50.719 --> 00:43:55.239



But he told Jacob to kind of evoke like being77900:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.360



like a dog with that innocent, you know, kind of78000:43:59.440 --> 00:44:03.960



love and wanting to be in your presence. But then being,78100:44:04.199 --> 00:44:08.599



especially with the blind man being willing to viciously defend78200:44:08.840 --> 00:44:15.360



if necessary, but then immediately goes back to being loving78300:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.199



as the old man was dying.78400:44:18.800 --> 00:44:21.599



But that just makes it sad or I don't know it.78500:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.480



Does he said, he he used his own dog, like78600:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.519



you know, watching her and things like that, and then78700:44:27.840 --> 00:44:31.840



something else. I did look up when because like you said,78800:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.559



he wasn't the original and I.78900:44:34.480 --> 00:44:36.440



Love Andrew Garfield, but there is no.79000:44:37.559 --> 00:44:38.679



Doing this at all.79100:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.119



So what he backed out apparently due to scheduling conflicts79200:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.679



and only left Jacob four weeks to prepare for it.79300:44:46.760 --> 00:44:48.719



And apparently, and like you said, since del Toro and79400:44:48.760 --> 00:44:50.440



his team, you know, they had started with like the79500:44:50.480 --> 00:44:54.000



makeup and the costume, the with the prosthetics and stuff,79600:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.239



they had already basically had all the stuff fit.79700:44:56.159 --> 00:44:57.760



And ready for Garfield.79800:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.280



So then they got how to get on or the79900:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.719



gone of redoing all of that, you know, based on80000:45:05.000 --> 00:45:10.840



Jacob's build. And so that was just another headbit.80100:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.760



But you know, like you said, with del To's quote80200:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.559



at the beginning, like he kind of looks at those things,80300:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.760



is like you know what, it's like a zen thing,80400:45:20.960 --> 00:45:22.639



like it was meant to be this is where the80500:45:22.639 --> 00:45:23.559



movie is leading me.80600:45:24.360 --> 00:45:25.960



I just need to follow that path.80700:45:26.039 --> 00:45:30.559



And that's such a healthy attitude because I got the stress,80800:45:30.679 --> 00:45:32.519



like there's a lot of money and a lot of80900:45:32.559 --> 00:45:33.719



work put into this stuff.81000:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.239



It all happens for a reason. And yes, yes, this81100:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.320



one worked out for Yeah.81200:45:39.559 --> 00:45:41.599



Yeah. And speaking of the blind Man, that was played81300:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.039



by David Bradley, who did a great job.81400:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.239



If you haven't seen.81500:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.840



Broad Church, yes I would.81600:45:50.960 --> 00:45:52.639



You would be completely.81700:45:52.079 --> 00:45:56.159



Shocked because he always plays the worst, like he's always81800:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.400



such a horrible person, but in broad Church he plays81900:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.639



such a beautiful, empathetic, loving man that has just the82000:46:03.679 --> 00:46:05.119



most tragic storyline.82100:46:05.480 --> 00:46:06.960



Yeah.82200:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.199



So you if you saw that, you knew he had82300:46:09.239 --> 00:46:11.119



it in him. And I was so happy to see82400:46:11.199 --> 00:46:12.559



him in that role.82500:46:12.599 --> 00:46:17.079



He was perfect. And that scene was tough for you, Angel,82600:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.440



I know with the wolves, was it not it?82700:46:19.960 --> 00:46:23.360



I just kept going, it's c g, I, It's yeah,82800:46:23.400 --> 00:46:24.360



they're not real puppies.82900:46:24.400 --> 00:46:25.199



It's okay.83000:46:25.480 --> 00:46:28.480



I did. I did have to kind of close my eyes,83100:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.599



especially when he was coming into to check on the83200:46:31.639 --> 00:46:33.719



blind Man after they had already you know, gotten to him,83300:46:33.760 --> 00:46:35.320



and I kind of knew. I was like, oh god,83400:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.000



oh god, I could you know, hear the sound. I83500:46:37.039 --> 00:46:38.960



did have to cover myse even though I'm like, I83600:46:39.000 --> 00:46:39.559



know it's fake.83700:46:39.719 --> 00:46:42.880



I know, I know he's doing it as you know,83800:46:42.880 --> 00:46:43.679



a defensive hit.83900:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.039



You know everything I stand, but it's yeah, it was.84000:46:47.119 --> 00:46:49.199



It was still tough, but I got through it.84100:46:50.199 --> 00:46:50.400



Yep.84200:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.719



I do want to call out the young Victor Frankenstein.84300:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.440



You guys know who that is. Christian Covraiary. He played84400:46:57.440 --> 00:47:01.800



Gus and Sweet Tooth. Okay, yeah, and he's also in84500:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.760



Cocaine Bear. If you've not seen Cocaine Bear, well, Sweet84600:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.760



Truth is fantastic amber you need to watch it, Okay, absolutely,84700:47:09.800 --> 00:47:13.320



and he plays Gust, the main character. Okay, so you'll84800:47:13.320 --> 00:47:17.559



definitely about that. Yes, I do as you guys. As84900:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.159



you ladies know, I love to talk about the cinematography.85000:47:20.440 --> 00:47:25.480



The cinematographer themselves. Dan Lastin is the guy who did this.85100:47:25.599 --> 00:47:27.880



He has done some other things, obviously with Del Toro.85200:47:27.960 --> 00:47:30.239



He did The Shape of Water. He did Crimson Peak85300:47:30.599 --> 00:47:33.960



not may Ali, and he did Mimic as well. He's85400:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.119



also done a few of the John Wick films. He's85500:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.400



done The Leave, Extraordinary, Gentleman, Darkness Falls, and I don't85600:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.039



know if the one if you've seen this foreign film85700:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.360



called Brotherhood of the Wolf Angela. I know you have85800:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.679



not because it's a horror film, but it is very,85900:47:47.800 --> 00:47:51.159



very good. But anyway, I have, but I don't mind have.86000:47:51.239 --> 00:47:53.800



It's an older film. Yeah, so it's been around, it's86100:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.400



been around a while. But just this guy's work in86200:47:57.440 --> 00:47:59.599



this film. I know a lot of this is storyboarded86300:47:59.599 --> 00:48:03.119



by Delta Horro, but it still takes a very talented86400:48:03.239 --> 00:48:06.159



camera guy to pull all of that off because they86500:48:06.159 --> 00:48:07.800



are in charge of the lighting. And the lighting in86600:48:07.840 --> 00:48:11.360



this film is absolutely beautiful. But one of the things86700:48:11.559 --> 00:48:14.920



that I noticed in watching this so many times that86800:48:15.039 --> 00:48:20.239



camera just glides, it floats like it's not even like86900:48:20.320 --> 00:48:23.559



almost like not camera normal camera movements. It's crazy. It's87000:48:23.559 --> 00:48:27.239



almost like you're in a dream. You're there experiencing what's87100:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.719



going on in them scenes with that camera work. And87200:48:30.960 --> 00:48:32.880



if you've scenes the behind the scenes stuff that you87300:48:32.880 --> 00:48:35.679



talked about Amber, did you see how they were able87400:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.079



to take away take apart some of the sets.87500:48:38.199 --> 00:48:43.480



Yes, came again you know, the marriage of these different87600:48:43.599 --> 00:48:49.360



departments working together. They had these flying walls that you're87700:48:49.440 --> 00:48:53.440



really in this set. You know, people think that there's87800:48:53.760 --> 00:48:57.639



so much CGI in this movie. There's really not that much. Yeah,87900:48:57.679 --> 00:49:01.280



these are all practical sets, and they had these flying88000:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.039



walls that they could move out of the way so88100:49:04.079 --> 00:49:07.239



the camera could come in on a crane, and you know,88200:49:07.960 --> 00:49:14.639



all this really intricate, interesting problem solving techniques to enable88300:49:14.800 --> 00:49:18.320



that cinematographer to do what he did so well, and88400:49:18.360 --> 00:49:22.119



it's just it's amazing, amazing.88500:49:22.519 --> 00:49:24.760



I mean, there's there's so many things about this that88600:49:24.840 --> 00:49:27.440



you could just tell. These people all deserve awards. I mean,88700:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.239



the cinematographer, but the costly.88800:49:30.599 --> 00:49:32.760



Raises it to an absolute art form.88900:49:32.880 --> 00:49:36.440



It does just you know, movie making can be very89000:49:37.239 --> 00:49:42.639



you know, popcorn mass produced, you know, but this is89100:49:43.320 --> 00:49:44.000



actual art.89200:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.400



This is art getting to look at on all these89300:49:47.440 --> 00:49:50.559



different levels. You know, everybody is at the top of their.89400:49:50.480 --> 00:49:55.639



Game creating this unique world that we just are immersed in.89500:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.440



Did you I know you caught this with watching the documentary,89600:49:59.440 --> 00:50:03.280



but you the use of red was just for Victor's mom,89700:50:03.840 --> 00:50:07.719



and that's why Victor has read on him is representation89800:50:07.840 --> 00:50:11.000



of his mother. I thought that was so well done89900:50:11.280 --> 00:50:12.679



and I don't know if I would have caught that,90000:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.960



I probably would have on his hands. Yes, his gloves90100:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.480



are red yep, yep. And then at the funeral when90200:50:19.480 --> 00:50:21.440



he was walking away, he had the red scarf on90300:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.280



around him. But yeah, his hands had the red. And90400:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.719



if you notice, Elizabeth had some red. She had the90500:50:26.760 --> 00:50:29.960



red umbrella, she had the red necklace, so she had90600:50:29.960 --> 00:50:31.119



a little bit of that going on too. And I90700:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.599



think it was almost telling us he's kind of thinking90800:50:33.639 --> 00:50:35.920



of her as that way. I know that sounds weird,90900:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.440



but you know, I mean it kind of did. Why also,91000:50:38.440 --> 00:50:40.440



would he use the red in those scenes.91100:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.320



He's clearly got mommy issues if he's chugging milk all91200:50:43.360 --> 00:50:43.719



the time.91300:50:45.119 --> 00:50:46.239



Yes, he does good grief.91400:50:46.480 --> 00:50:48.880



But and also it's kind of foreshadowing for her too,91500:50:49.000 --> 00:50:54.880



because she's going to have this tragic fate, you know,91600:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.360



and so you get these little flashes of, you know,91700:50:58.440 --> 00:51:01.360



the danger that she's altimate going to be in. And91800:51:02.079 --> 00:51:06.639



I saw the costumer talking about the lengths they had91900:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.719



to go to on her wedding dress to make these92000:51:09.840 --> 00:51:12.719



layers so that the blood would bleed in like this92100:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.320



certain way, like my god.92200:51:16.280 --> 00:51:18.719



You know, creative. I don't know if I want to92300:51:18.760 --> 00:51:22.039



say that was beautiful because she's bleeding, but it was beautiful.92400:51:22.039 --> 00:51:23.239



It's beautiful Yeah, it.92500:51:23.239 --> 00:51:25.960



Really was him carrying her out like that. And did92600:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.800



the red is just coming down the white dress. It's like,92700:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.239



holy crap, that is amazing.92800:51:32.119 --> 00:51:35.079



Yes, it's like a painting like it is.92900:51:35.400 --> 00:51:37.760



Yes, almost every seat was like a painting for crying93000:51:37.800 --> 00:51:41.000



out loud. Even the opening shot when the camera opens93100:51:41.079 --> 00:51:42.519



up in the north and you see the you know93200:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.039



they're stuck in the ice and that camera just slowly93300:51:45.159 --> 00:51:49.599



glides in the blue uniforms with the white background with93400:51:49.639 --> 00:51:52.079



the snow, My god, that was stunning.93500:51:52.880 --> 00:51:53.039



Well.93600:51:53.079 --> 00:51:57.599



And then when they get to the laboratory and you93700:51:57.679 --> 00:52:00.960



get this great outside wide shot of like the sun93800:52:01.039 --> 00:52:04.360



setting with the tower on the right and then the93900:52:04.400 --> 00:52:09.400



birds flying out like it's so gothic and so like94000:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.599



that was like a little wink to the thirty one version.94100:52:12.639 --> 00:52:14.719



I feel like, oh, it has to be yeah.94200:52:14.760 --> 00:52:15.880



And then did anybody.94300:52:15.599 --> 00:52:18.679



Else feel like when they went into the building into94400:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.559



the laboratory, when they first go in the entrance, that94500:52:21.639 --> 00:52:23.880



is one hundred percent the house from Crimson Peak.94600:52:23.960 --> 00:52:29.039



Oh it has to be at least yeah. Yep. And94700:52:29.079 --> 00:52:31.079



the shot of Elizabeth coming down the steps with the94800:52:31.119 --> 00:52:34.480



candles come on, that was nineteen thirty one. Yes, totally yes,94900:52:34.559 --> 00:52:35.400



that was in.95000:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.000



Her nightgown and everything. It was very haunted mansion.95100:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.800



I loved it absolutely. That was great. I feel like95200:52:40.840 --> 00:52:43.000



we're talking over angel Angela, you gone quiet now.95300:52:44.719 --> 00:52:46.840



It's a good it's a good problem to have to95400:52:46.920 --> 00:52:49.639



have three people so enthusiastic about the film that like95500:52:50.079 --> 00:52:51.159



none of us can shut up.95600:52:51.880 --> 00:52:54.719



Yeah, well, just to go back on, you know, when95700:52:54.719 --> 00:52:58.119



you guys are talking about the Red that you know,95800:52:58.239 --> 00:53:02.079



it's a good representation that it connects him to his mom,95900:53:02.159 --> 00:53:04.800



whom you know, where he loved very much and and96000:53:05.559 --> 00:53:09.119



wanted to do this, you know, became obsessed because of96100:53:09.199 --> 00:53:12.880



her death. And then you have you know, the Elizabeth96200:53:12.880 --> 00:53:16.159



who's you know now kind of become other obsession.96300:53:18.119 --> 00:53:19.480



It is too strong of a word.96400:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.639



But the other female in his sights that you know,96500:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.800



he's you know that you know was engaged to his his.96600:53:25.800 --> 00:53:26.719



Younger brother, and.96700:53:29.159 --> 00:53:33.079



You know, so those those two females have a connection96800:53:33.119 --> 00:53:36.880



to him even though he's you know, is lacking all96900:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.679



things that one needs to have for a proper, you know,97000:53:39.800 --> 00:53:40.679



proper connections.97100:53:40.719 --> 00:53:42.480



So it makes sense that they use the Red with that.97200:53:42.519 --> 00:53:44.960



And I love that Del Toro said, no, I want color,97300:53:45.000 --> 00:53:47.000



I don't want to know black top hats. I don't97400:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.320



want to Kinsey, and I love the Victoria, I love97500:53:49.320 --> 00:53:51.519



the Charles Dick and stuff. But I totally get why97600:53:51.519 --> 00:53:53.920



he wanted to and it works so so well. You97700:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.159



know that that that palette and that those colors and97800:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.480



having that symbolism, which there's a lot of in this.97900:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.800



Did y'all get that that was Mia Goth playing both98000:54:02.880 --> 00:54:06.719



roles because I didn't get it until I ran afterwards. Yeah,98100:54:06.880 --> 00:54:10.159



Like I totally did not recognize her playing both roles98200:54:10.199 --> 00:54:10.559



at all.98300:54:10.960 --> 00:54:14.400



No, I didn't either until afterwards really, and then go98400:54:14.440 --> 00:54:16.119



back and watch it again, I'm like, oh, okay.98500:54:16.320 --> 00:54:19.679



Apparently she didn't know either until she showed up.98600:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.639



Like, hey, by the way, it's funny that the movie98700:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.079



I told you about, the horror movie x YEA, she98800:54:25.199 --> 00:54:27.719



plays two characters in that one she plays an old98900:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.559



old woman and then she plays the young young girl.99000:54:30.559 --> 00:54:33.840



There're two different characters, but she plays both. So it's like, apparently,99100:54:33.920 --> 00:54:36.000



me a Goth is like just really good at that,99200:54:36.079 --> 00:54:36.960



so like, let's just use it.99300:54:37.119 --> 00:54:40.639



Okay, Yeah, I did see that. They did make some99400:54:40.760 --> 00:54:43.679



kind of a prosthetic for part of her face for the.99500:54:43.840 --> 00:54:45.039



You know, her nose.99600:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.360



Yeah, with that to give you know, a little bit99700:54:48.400 --> 00:54:51.239



of change. But yeah, I still was like, oh, I99800:54:51.440 --> 00:54:51.760



you know.99900:54:51.800 --> 00:54:53.760



I mean, it didn't change her face that much, but100000:54:53.960 --> 00:54:56.320



I just didn't. I was so lost in it that100100:54:56.400 --> 00:54:59.599



I didn't even realize it was the same person.100200:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.440



Just because to tell you, you're so involved with a100300:55:01.480 --> 00:55:03.079



movie when you lose track of that kind of thing,100400:55:03.159 --> 00:55:06.719



because you're just absorbing everything and you're not realizing what's100500:55:06.760 --> 00:55:09.119



in front of you like that, you know. So that's100600:55:09.320 --> 00:55:12.320



that's perfect. That's just great storytelling, is what that is. Well, ladies,100700:55:12.360 --> 00:55:14.199



let's goad to take another break and we come back.100800:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.280



Let's continue our discussion of the film itself, which we've100900:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.000



already done. But hey, we'll be right back.101000:55:29.159 --> 00:55:32.760



Silly short summary for Frankenstein twenty twenty five. At mid101100:55:32.840 --> 00:55:36.199



nineteenth century, mad scientists with daddy issues resurrects a creature101200:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.199



made from a bunch of dead dudes, only to discard101300:55:38.199 --> 00:55:42.000



it shortly after for being dumb and disappointing. After becoming educated,101400:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.039



the honky creature returns to its absentee father, request and101500:55:45.039 --> 00:55:48.440



a girlfriend, but as cock blocked and rejected again, Mayhem101600:55:48.440 --> 00:55:50.519



and sues in a murderous rage across the Arctic.101700:55:54.400 --> 00:56:01.800



All right, my mind, ange, love it, Okay,