July 27, 2025

James Gunn - Super

James Gunn - Super
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Season 6 A Film By...

As James Gunn's Superman continues to soar at the Box Office, we've decided to listen to those of you asking for a James Gunn episode! And while it's one from the A Film By... vault, we think you'll enjoy hearing about his feature film debut, Super!

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If you were, say, born with superpowers like a mutant

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mutant gene, or there was a lab accident and you

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were you were bestowed superpowers, would you feel a responsibility

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to fight crime, to act on those powers, to use

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that gift.

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I think my part of me wants to say hmm no.

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But the other part of me, which is the strongest part,

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the good part, is yes, I would use it for good.

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I would help people.

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Let's say you don't have superpowers. Have you ever considered

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being a crime fighter? Like, like, what would it take

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for you to hit the streets fight crime as a

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as a costumed vigilante.

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What would it take?

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Oh?

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Man, I guess something meds you would happen to have

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to happen in my life. I guess I don't know.

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Lose somebody maybe interesting?

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Well, I asked, because I want to talk about I

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want to have this conversation. I want to talk about

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a film by James Gunn, his twenty eleven dark strange

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superhero comedy Super Hello everybody, and welcome back to a

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Film by podcast. I am Jeff Johnson, I'm David Burns, Dave,

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thank you for joining us today. Co host Brad Kozo

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has has got some some technical difficulties. He's gonna he's

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he's working on him. But uh, you have you swooped in.

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I did to the studio like like you like you

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do and said, uh, I'll save the day and uh

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I'll co host so.

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And I'm always happy to be here. Man, It's always

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a good time. It's always fun, always awesome to have you.

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Uh. I love what you and Scott are doing on

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a film at forty five.

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By the way, thank you. I love every minute of that, man,

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really do.

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Yeah, fantastic, fantastic stuff. Uh. We are talking about James

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gun today. H Obviously everyone knows he is the the

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co CEO, he's the he's the head honcho for DC.

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Now we got a whole new lineup of DC superhero

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films coming, and we'll get into that later on.

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Oh yeah, before.

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We get into it, let's start with with today's sponsor,

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if you will. I want to throw a shout out

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to James Buckley, Dave, this guy, this amazing guy. Several

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several episodes ago, we read a a review Apple Review

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which hailed us as a binge worthy podcast. You know,

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a lot of great things said, and the person responsible

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is our newest patron who recently joined our Patreon and

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signed up, and we've got some fun things happening this

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month thanks to mister James Buckley.

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Yeah, thanks James, good job. You know, some people might

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be confused with what Patreon is. Can you kind of

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explain that to me, because I know when I first

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heard it, I was like, what is that?

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Absolutely a film by podcast now has its own Patreon

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where we are providing exclusive bonus content. So far, we

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have got four episodes out there. One actually I wouldn't

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call it an episode, Dave, because we did Brad and

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I did our first audio commentary on track. So you know,

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for fans of the nineteen eighty six classic April Fool's Day,

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you can now you can now watch the film with

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audio commentary by Brad and myself, which was a lot

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of fun. You and I got to do one. You

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and I have got to do one of those.

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Thanks you totally awesome. I'mious.

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And then, because you can't keep a good series down,

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nineteen eighty six has has risen, so to speak. Uh,

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and we got we got a couple of there's like

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three episodes already on the Patreon that are nineteen eighty six.

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What we're what we're calling the lost episodes of eighty six,

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if you were so for fans of nineteen eighty six,

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if you want more of that limited series, which Dave,

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I know you were a big part of.

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Yeah, and it's the year that He's popped up, the.

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Year that Ke's popping up, right, Yeah, but that's on

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the Patreon for as little as three dollars a month, Dave, Uh,

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you get access to all of the bonus content. And

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you know, well for three bucks a month, we'll send

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you a couple of our film by podcast. There's like

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there's like three different ones now. Speaking of that, James

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has actually he is at the top tier. He is

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at the producer level. Nice which, yeah, so he's he

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has got the stickers, he's got the T shirt, he's

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got he's got the color changing stadium cups. He gets

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to choose his own episode for the Patreon, which he

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has told us he's made his request and James, that

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will definitely be hitting Patreon this month. We're gonna be

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doing a special episode for him, all right. And and

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as a producer, Dave, he now has a say in

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a future director that we're going to talk about on

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the show. So, like I said, different levels from mewhere,

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from three dollars to twenty dollars. You call the shots.

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And fortunately James has great taste, so the film that

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he has chosen for us to cover is awesome. All right,

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But you know, I'm just waiting for some prankster to

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sign up and then just be like, yeah, I'm gonna

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make him watch this terrible movie. But hey, it's that's

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what producers do, right, Can I put it out there?

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Iron Eagle too, Let's do it. Let's do it. Come on,

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somebody sign up and do it.

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Oh my god, you really? Oh my lord? Iron Eagle too,

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Jeseus Okay, well, well, uh well, more on that later.

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Uh Dave, Let's talk about James Gunn's film Super. I

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have to I have to believe not a lot of

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people know about this one, because I've asked a lot

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of people about it and everyone kind of gives me

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the confused look. No one's no one's seen this. Can

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you tell us a little bit about what Super is?

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I can. First, I want to say I'm in that bucket.

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I did not I had not seen this movie, so

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I went into it cold, did not know anything about

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it and wow. Okay, so let me get a little

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synopsis of this movie. Frank has two things that were

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perfect in his life, his marriage to Sarah and the

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time he pointed to where criminal had gone to help

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up pursuing police officers. For most of his life he

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was picked on and bullied. Nothing went his way. Well,

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things continue to go downhill from even into adulthood. Frank

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also had visions throughout his life Jesus on his bedroom

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wall and a childhood friend being a demon. And then

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on one faithful day, he has the vision of all visions,

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the finger of God touching his brain, with his wife

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Sarah leaving him to go with Yock. He now turns

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to making changes in his life, even if that means

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continuing to fry cook by day and becoming a superhero

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known as the Crimson Boat at night or whenever the

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time felt right. Prepare yourself for a crazy, violent, and

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one of the strangest superhero films you will ever see.

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Absolutely this movie, I'm gonna go I was gonna say it,

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there is there's definitely some some themes. There is definitely

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some language used yea that that's you know, not appropriate.

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The movie is incredibly violent.

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Yes, and some very uncomfortable scenes.

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There, Yes, some very uncomfortable scenes. This This this movie,

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I would say, could easily offend people even when it

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doesn't mean to. Again, with some of the language that use,

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you got to you know, it's twenty eleven when this

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comes out, So I feel like some of the some

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of the language was like, you know, frowned upon but

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maybe still socially acceptable. Definitely not acceptable by by today's standards,

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and it never should have been acceptable, but you know,

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it is what it is, this movie like and you said,

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you said it's strange. This is a strange superhero film,

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right it is.

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And Jeff, people look stupid when they cry.

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Yeah, oh you got let's let's talk. Let's jump right

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into the cast. Because Rain Rain Wilson as Frank Darbo,

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He's he's our here, he's our hero. This is the

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guy that that loses his loses his wife, his his

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the beautiful live Tyler, loses her to scumbag drug dealing

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Kevin Bacon. It decides to become a vigilanti, a crime fighter.

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So you know, I know, we'll talk about recommendations at

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the end of this, but I just I have to know,

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like you watched this for the first time recently, what's

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your initial thoughts.

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So I can get through this movie? And I had

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to stop and think about what did I just watch?

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What just happened in this movie? And No, I really

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liked it. It was fun, It was a little crazy

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at times. It reminds you of kick Ass a little bit,

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and in a way, just a little right instead of

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left is what this movie does.

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So yep, yeah, rains sensational on this. I mean, everyone

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knows him, you know. I think his go to performance

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is probably most likely Dwight Trut from the office. Everyone

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knows him as Dwight Trup.

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Yep.

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I love when this guy shows up in a genre

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movie like this. What he showed up in Rob Zombie's

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The Devil's what was it? A House of a Thousand Corpses? Yeah,

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I mean he's he's amazing as Dwight Trup, but he

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it's more amazing what he's just what he's just being

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in anything else. I feel like like I loved him

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in this.

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He really did good job of playing weird, but he

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also did a good job of praying broken and shattered

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from like torments of life.

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Oh gosh, he I mean, I kind of feel like

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this movie puts you through a couple of different emotions,

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like some does. And sometimes some parts you're like, you're laughing,

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some parts you're kind of you're taking aback, you're kind

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of shocked, and then other times you're just you're kind

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of heartbroken for this guy. He does play a broken

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individual really well, I think.

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And you get to a certain point with this character too,

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you're almost like, what what are you doing? Man? You've

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gone over the line that you shouldn't be doing, especially

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when he meets Libby, and yeah, Libby becomes a part

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of it, and you're like, then you see what both

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of them are doing together, and then he finally realizes

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this isn't right, you know. So But and we'll talk

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of a little bit more about how the movie ends

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and stuff like that, because I one of my favorite

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parts of this movie is the ending of the movie

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and what it means.

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And we'll talk to Yeah, well you mentioned Libby, who

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who plays like the sidekick character, you know, Elliott Page

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brilliant in this performance, brilliant think, oh yeah, this is

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this is way before Umbrella Academy. So it's just fun

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to see Elliott page, chewing up the scenery right.

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When you meet it at the comic book store. Yeah,

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and just how awkward that character is, you know, and

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just and it just matches Frank's character. Even though Frank

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didn't see it at first, later on he finally realizes,

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all right, maybe I do need a sidekick. And they

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work well together to a certain degree because Libby is

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still way out there.

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Yeah. Well you mentioned the way they are, like Libby

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definitely socially awkward in the sense that Libby says things

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there's no filter, right, and then Frank very socially awkward,

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just doesn't know how to talk to people at all. Right,

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So to see to see this, yeah, to see this,

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to see them coming together as like this is going

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to be the crime fighting team. It is fantastic. And uh,

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I know we're talking about cast. So a quick shout.

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Please tell me that you recognized the jerk in the

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comic book store in the back.

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No, I didn't.

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Who was that he plays? He's actually from the Peacemaker.

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He plays Economos on Peacemaker, like they're like their tech guy. Yeah, Steve,

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Steve A gee, I think I'm saying that right. I

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hope I'm saying that right if he's listening. Apologies if

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I'm not saying it right. But yeah, that's that's that's him,

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That's that's Economos, so you know, and that's just you know,

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that's that's James Gunn who finds a great for people

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to work with and he's going to work with them

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throughout his entire career. You know, this is twenty eleven. Yeah,

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and now we're in twenty twenty three with the Peacemaker

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and these guys are still working together.

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see a lot of these people popping up. I mean

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his brother, gosh, yeah, yep, you know, you've got Michael Rooker.

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Michael Rooker, He's he's definitely a go to guy for

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James Gunn.

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Michaelrooker plays a great henchman. He really does, man, no

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matter what he does.

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You know. It's it's odd because this is kind of

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a smaller role for Michael Rooker, especially at this point

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in his career. He's like the lead henchman, you know,

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but he also kind of has I like that Michael

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Rooker takes the opportunity to show that he has a

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conscious you know, there's a couple of scenes, you know,

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where you can see like, you know, what he he

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knows what they're doing is wrong. Yeah, he doesn't like it,

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but he's also he's listening to his boss kind of

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a kind of a thing.

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Yeah, you see it play on his face at times. Correct,

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and then he fes uncomfortable at times. You're right, he's

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getting paid by a boss and he's gonna do what

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he wants. It's that simple.

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It is that simple. Uh So, Rain Wilson Elliott Page

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the Lovely Live Tyler were you were you surprised to

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see her in a role like this?

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Dave Yes, I was.

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I mean, because it's not your typical female lead at all,

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you know, not at all. Yeah. Half the movie she's

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she's kind of just incoherent and drugged out. You know,

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she's you know, because she's a recovering addict who succumbs

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to the uh, the wiles of Kevin Bacon, you know,

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and you know she's like a hostage. Shut the whole thing,

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and that's what sets uh, that's what sets Frank on

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his mission to save his wife, you know.

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And she played it well because I'm telling you, I

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don't know how easy it is to play. It looks

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like you're drugged out of your mind. But she did

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a really good job with that.

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Yeah you mentioned uh, you mentioned Sean Gunn already another

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one of the hunt henchmen. Another couple couple of other

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small cameos in this. You got Linda Cardellini.

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I was surprised by that, the pets in the pet story.

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Yeah, she's just she's in there for like one minute.

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You know. Uh. I always love when Nathan Fillion James Gunn,

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what did you think of the Holy Avenger?

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The Holy Avenger? Like, when that commercial came on, I'm like,

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what the hell is this?

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He's he's he's at home, he's watching the All Jesus Network.

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Nathan Fillion plays the Holy Avenger. Who is He's got

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one of the goofiest superhero costumes of all time. But

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it's like a very much a spoon fed you know,

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this is why sin is wrong and you know, I'm

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gonna save the children type of thing. And that's James Gunn.

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Did you did you pick a demon as the demon?

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I forget what the demon's name is or did it

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have a name. I want to remember demons demons will

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Maybe he means will that's it and it will Yeah. Yeah,

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he just ges like he's he's almost like a prototype

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for for night Crawler, for the X Men, the way

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they have him.

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The whole tongue, the whole tongue.

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Yeah, the tongue flicking thing that he does. He is

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crazy and and that. But uh, it's just it's crazy

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some of the some of the small cameras we have

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in there, because again some of the some of our

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big name guys and gals, they're they're playing very small roles. Uh.

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This was a fun one. I did not I didn't

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know this until I was doing a little bit of homework.

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The voice of God, you know, because we talked about

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how God kind of taps franky, you know, he gets

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the he gets the divine inspiration. Guess whose voice? Guess

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who's voicing God? Who is it? Rob Zombie? How about that?

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Is that ironic? Rob Zombie? Yeah? Rob Zombie as the

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wasis of God. There there you go.

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One caught me by surprise. I actually had to rewind

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a little bit. Well, I said rewind, but you know

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that I just dated my age. But anyway, I had

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to go back to catch it because it happens really quick.

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William kat Yeah. At first, I was like, except William Catt.

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I had to go back and watch it against the

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Holy cpit is.

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Yeah, I'm telling you, man, this is this one. It's

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worth a rewatch just to try and spot all the

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all the cameos. Yeah, because and again, how's how's James

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Gunn doing this? Because this is a this is this

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is his debut film, you know, so I'm kind of thinking, like,

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you know, why is everyone just showing up on set

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to to do small roles for James Gunn at a

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time when he's not James Gunn. I thought that was

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kind of funny.

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Yeah.

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Uh, Kevin Bacon, is this like the coolest, most easy

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going villain you've ever seen in a in a superhero movie?

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He really is.

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One of the scenes that I laughed hysterically was when

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Frank confronted him and he like hit his car. He

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goes the all car and he goes and slowly touches

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the car again with his finger. He goes, don't, don't.

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Well, let's let's back up for a second, because, like

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we're introduced to him. He just shows up at the door,

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the screen door. He's like, hey, how's it going, which is.

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He's super friendly, but it's really creepy how he is

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and his black Yeah, yeah, yeah. Frank's just sitting there

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making eggs. He's like, are those eggs? Can I have some?

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And like you said, Frank's been bulleted his whole life,

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so he doesn't know how to stand up to people

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or say no. Right, So you get this awkward breakfast

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between you know, Rain Wilson and h and Kevin Bacons. Yeah,

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he's so delightful as a as a villain. And then

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he's like, yeah, tell tell your wife I stopped by. Yeah,

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and you know it's like and then like the next

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scene like she's gone right and she she's in overhead.

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Now she's now she's with Kevin Bacon, and you know,

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he completely loses it. But that scene where he goes

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running up and he's like banging on Kevin Bacon's car

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and he that's where we finally get a little hint

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of the villainy. He's like, look, I'm gonna give you

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one last chance. Don't don't touch my f and car again.

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And he just puts like one his index finger. He's like,

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I'm telling you that's it. That's the last one. And

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he does it again, and he's like, Okay, you know

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that's not the that's not the kind of touching I meant.

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You know that I'm gone, gone, I'm out of here.

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I'm believing. But I love that moment for Rain Wilson's

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character Frank, because that's where he's starting. Like I feel

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like the Crimson bolt is born in that moment because

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he he is defiant. He stands up right, yep, exactly.

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Can we talk about the the weirdest divine inspiration scene

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in any movie probably ever filmed, because this movie. I mean,

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first off, I love the opening with the animation, the

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the anime. Whenever they use gett an animated, they're always fun, right.

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Uh So that kind of puts you on the in

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a in a fun it's it's it's weird because it

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tricks you because like you're like, oh, this is gonna

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be fun. I'm gonna laugh the whole time, and it's

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gonna be like a funny superhero movie.

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And then we go dark because of animation.

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Yeah, well yeah, it's but it's like loody like, oh yeah,

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that's that's funny. That guy's head exploded. But you know,

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I'm laughing because it's a cartoon and then we go

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dark and we're gonna see that on screen. But this this, uh,

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this scene, man, it's just strange, you know. I know,

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it's just you got like the tentacles like saw and

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open his head and then you know, God's like and.

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I think that relates back to the the anime porn

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that he's watching on TV. Yeah, with the tentacles and

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then you're like, yeah, what what's that?

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What? Uh? I don't know what kind of cable package

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he has, but he goes from like the All Jesus

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Network to like, uh, that anime pornography stuff. There's some

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other movies that, you know, I wanted to I wanted

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to kind of deep dive and figure out what what

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some of those other movies were. I think one of

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them was a trauma movie if I'm not mistaken, and

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it would make sense when when I get into James

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Gunn's background, we'll, we'll, we'll, i'll talk about the trauma connection.

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But I love the moment though, when he's back at

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the comic book store because he gets the the inspiration

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I need to fight crime and he's such a novice.

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He goes to he goes straight to the comic book

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store where Libby is like behind the counter working and

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he's like, yeah, I need the Holy Avenger, and she

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you know, has some choice words for for the Holy

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Avenger comic. And you know then of course, but starts

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educating him, right, you know, like yeah, you want to,

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you want to you want to read this, you want

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to read that. But I love the line that that

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Libby has because it you know, where he gets the

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he has the weird dream, the divine inspiration dream. Then

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he has the moment, the moment of clarity if you will,

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you know, because Libby's like I always wonder like why

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doesn't anyone just become a real superhero?

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Right?

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Why doesn't it happen? You know? And then like like

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Frank says, you know, all it takes is the choice

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to fight evil. And I love that moment because we've

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seen it in like other movies, you know, Boondocks, Saints

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kick Ass, Like the questions always asked. That's why you know,

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we That's why I asked you like, what what would

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it take? You know? Why don't why doesn't it happen?

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You know? I love that moment though.

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It's a good moment.

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Let's talk about his uh you know, he obviously he

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goes to the whole homemade costume, uh tro which is fun. Yeah,

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but I love when he's trying off, when he's trying

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out different catch phrases. Shut up crime. That has got

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to be one of the best catch phrases for a

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vigilanti ever, Right, yep.

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Man just leads it just leads to his awkwardness. Man,

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it was just perfect for it for who he is.

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Yeah, but then he you know, he tries, he goes out,

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he tries. He doesn't go very well for him, doesn't

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go very well because he's he's just a guy who

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pulls up in his you know, his beat up car

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and you know, waits and tries to tries to stop

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a drug dealer, kind of gets his ass handed.

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To him and doesn't really think ahead. He does mention

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it later on towards the end of the movie about

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his license plate on the car. I mean that's not

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a very good move man.

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Yeah, the Boltmobile. Well, like, you know, he goes out,

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he tries. It's back to the drawing board. He's back

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to the comic book store. What about what about heroes

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without without that? Without powers? That he weapons and again

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Libby is like his his instructor, like you know, Batman

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batter rangs and the utility belt, and he's like, ooh,

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utility belt, like like I like that, you know, you know,

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I think green arrow or you know, has a bone

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arrow like you know.

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Then kept in America. Oh no, no, no, he's got powers.

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Put that way.

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Put that way, he's a super soldier, So that doesn't count.

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So yeah, it doesn't count because now Libby is invested

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in this guy, like you know what, you're building your

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own hero, like what's going on? And he ends up

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with He ends up settling on a on a pipe wrench,

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a steel pipe wrench. You can buy the home depot.

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It just goes out starts beating the ship out of people.

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One of the one of the funniest moments in this

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movie that made me leave. There's a bunch of moments

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in this movie that will make me laugh. One of

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them that really got me was when he was hiding

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behind the dumpster for the first time and he was

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like narrating stuff that was going on and he goes

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out real quick as he heard something he can't big.

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It was just a box. The wind was pushing it

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down the street. I will get it later. I just

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want to want to expose my position.

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Yeah, just tell you that a lot of dumpster. Yeah,

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this movie has a lot of fun moments, I think. Uh,

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but again, like the first time he hit someone with

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that wrench.

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Oh my gosh.

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And then you see it, you're like, whoa. I mean,

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the guy's selling selling potter. I don't know what he

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was selling, but you know, tie stick or whatever he says.

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But you're like, whoa, dude, that's a little excessive. But

466
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:17.039
then like the the guy that's trying to molest the

467
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.599
little kid, then you're happy. You're like, yeah, beat the

468
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:21.880
you know, take that guy's head off. You know, you're

469
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:26.559
excited about it. But again, Frank, yeah, this because he's

470
00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:29.799
a shattered person and he's clearly like like they keep

471
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:32.599
interviewing the cop on TV, and the guy's like, we're

472
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.240
talking about a psychopath, you know, and you can quickly

473
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:39.480
go from beating people up to murdering people quickly. And

474
00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:43.000
we see that because now he's just standing in line

475
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:46.079
waiting to get into a movie theater and people cut

476
00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:52.319
in front of him. He's like, he tries to he

477
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:55.039
tries to do the right thing by saying, hey man,

478
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.519
you can't cut you know, no no button into line,

479
00:25:57.559 --> 00:25:59.920
and the guy you know tells him to f off. Basically,

480
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.200
then he has that awkward change. He just his cars

481
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:06.319
parked right across the street, you know, he has that

482
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:11.079
awkward change, comes right out and bashes that guy. It's like,

483
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:14.079
you know where part I'm not gonna lie part of

484
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:15.599
me because Dave, you and I have been going to

485
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:19.279
movies together for twenty years now, Yeah, and we've been

486
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:21.400
in some theaters where you got people talking or you

487
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:25.839
got people being annoying, and you know, some people you

488
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:27.559
know you want to you know, they don't listen to

489
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:29.440
being you know, you shush him, you don't, you know,

490
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.039
they're not gonna respond to that. I'm telling you, A

491
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.519
part of me was kind of kind of smiling with

492
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:39.000
that guy the rude movie patron gets what's coming to

493
00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:41.119
him with the rooms. It's like, yeah, then you pick

494
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.519
out the girl too with it. Well yeah, well she

495
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:45.599
got in the way, and you know that, he smashes

496
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.480
her in the face, and I'm like, dude, you've gone

497
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:53.200
too far now, It's right, yeah, but uh, you know

498
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:55.079
he and he you know, going too far. He tries

499
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:56.920
to you know. Now he gets hurt, right, you know,

500
00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:01.680
he gets shot, he goes to Libby, reveals his identity

501
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:04.799
because Libby's on. Libby's on to Frank quickly, Lebby goes

502
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:06.559
to him at at you know where he's a fry

503
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:09.839
cook and asked the question, you know, are you him?

504
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.680
It's cool if you are, you know, because Libby is

505
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:17.519
eating up the superhero thing right right? How ridiculous was

506
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:21.559
was Libby's audition? Like he just which is that?

507
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:25.720
One of the most awkward audition ships I've ever seen

508
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:26.480
in my life.

509
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:30.880
Let me finishes up. I like that. Frank just with

510
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:38.000
a questioning tone, goes cartwheels. It's okay, you know what,

511
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.039
just wants to be the kids sidekick. You know, how

512
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.359
old are you? I'm twenty two, but still, you know,

513
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:47.240
compared to you, I'm I'm a kid. So it's just

514
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:50.319
it's a it's a wild film man, absolutely wild.

515
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:51.519
It's all over the place.

516
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:55.240
Yeah, I just I feel like a gun does a

517
00:27:55.240 --> 00:28:01.440
good job of the minute you get comfortable thing, then

518
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:05.079
he kind of throws something at you that makes you like,

519
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:09.200
oh dude, that's that's not cool. Yeah.

520
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:14.880
The the the very awkward sex scene between Liddy and

521
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.920
Frank you know what I'm talking about. That is where

522
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:19.839
I'm talking uncomfortable.

523
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:21.240
And really uncomfortable.

524
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:22.960
Yes, it was. And then he goes and throws up

525
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:24.640
in the toilet and then you get to see his

526
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:26.920
puke become what it was that the face of Sarah

527
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:30.240
I think, Yeah, it was just like, oh my god,

528
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:31.720
it's so awkward.

529
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:37.279
The film is weird, you know, it just is. Yeah.

530
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.119
You know, we we were talking about Kevin Bacon and

531
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.160
how easy going he is. Are you aware he was

532
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:46.359
not the first choice for.

533
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:51.200
Uh, for Jacques no who was supposed to be shocked.

534
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:57.319
Surprisingly, Jean Claude van Dam was originally cast. Yeah, van

535
00:28:57.400 --> 00:28:59.640
Dam is originally cast in this movie.

536
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.000
I can see that totally.

537
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:06.240
You could totally see it, right, Yes, he would have. Yeah,

538
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:09.279
but uh, right up until it was time to shoot,

539
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:12.279
he kind of went a wall. No one could get

540
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.200
ahold of him and James Gunn like they're they're ready

541
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.079
to shoot, and he basically decides like, I can't I

542
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:19.720
can't trust this guy. I can't count on him.

543
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:21.599
No, you can't have that not making a movie.

544
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:24.960
Kevin Bacon stepped in a week before he had to

545
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:28.559
be on set at the very last minute. So for job, Kevin,

546
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:31.079
much much like you swooped in today, Kevin Bacon swoops

547
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:35.440
in yeah, to play Jacques. Yeah, and I have to

548
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:39.039
imagine there's other there's other casting whatefs possibly. But uh,

549
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.240
before we talk about that, let's talk a little bit

550
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:43.680
about the production of this movie. Yeah.

551
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:49.000
Absolutely, two point five million dollar budget. Unfortunately it owned

552
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:51.880
only earned four hundred and twenty two thousand dollars worldwide,

553
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.920
was not very successful at the box office, but when

554
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:57.839
it did come out for streaming and DVD sales, it

555
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.680
picked up a lot of Uh sales? Was there with that?

556
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:04.119
So get that cult following going, which a lot of

557
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:05.720
movies like this usually do.

558
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:07.680
Would you call this a cult movie?

559
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:08.279
I would?

560
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.319
Yeah, I would too, right because I didn't see at the theater.

561
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:13.000
I heard about it and I was like, oh, let

562
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:13.559
me check it out.

563
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:15.119
Well, the only reason I watched it because you asked

564
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.079
me to do the podcast, and I'm like, okay, there

565
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.319
we go. Now. Not consider it like one of those

566
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.880
unusual movies that I'll go back to, all right. Super

567
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.240
was filmed between December two thousand and nine and January

568
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:29.119
twenty ten in Shreveport, Louisiana, of all places.

569
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:33.240
Jeff, really, okay, real quick, not that I don't want

570
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:34.680
to cut you off, but you know what also is

571
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:39.839
awesome about Louisiana. No, what that's where James Buckley comes from.

572
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.680
Is it really our patron? Who is Who's who has

573
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.359
made this episode possible? Are you serious?

574
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.039
I cannot up.

575
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:52.119
You're just like, yeah, I was in Louisiana. I was like,

576
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.480
what wait, this guy's I know this guy's in Louisiana.

577
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:00.960
That was not intentional, by the way, that just what

578
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:02.000
a coincidence?

579
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:02.759
All right, you go again.

580
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.720
Thanks once again, James, thank you, please continue.

581
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.920
Dave Sorry, Yah, absolutely no, that's that's cool. Additional shooting

582
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.880
was done at director James Gunn's home in La California,

583
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:16.960
and the comic book store that we see in the

584
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.319
movie is actually a real store called Comics Smash and

585
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:23.319
Studio City, which I think is a really neat place

586
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.519
to go visit now, Jeff, hint, hint.

587
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.400
Wait Studio City in Louisiana.

588
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:30.039
Studio City, California.

589
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:32.759
Okay, wait, yeah, I've been to that. I've been to

590
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:33.200
that store.

591
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.000
Oh you have, then you've been to yeah?

592
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.440
You talking about Studio City. Yeah, I've been to Comic Smash.

593
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.240
That's that's the comic book store that you see in

594
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.039
Super Holy Cow. Yeah, isn't that neat?

595
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.799
I yeah, I never even thought about that. Well there, Yeah,

596
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.160
I went there with Brad uh years ago. You know.

597
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:54.839
No, See, you didn't care on a location.

598
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:57.559
I gotta now, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta do

599
00:31:57.640 --> 00:31:59.000
some fact check. I might be in the background.

600
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:01.480
You never know. You never never know.

601
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:03.200
Me and a Conamos.

602
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.160
James Gunn started writing this in two thousand and two,

603
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.839
but clearly he struggled to get it made because well,

604
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.200
we've talked about the violence in this movie, and a

605
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:18.240
lot of people didn't want to touch it because of that. Jeff,

606
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:19.599
I don't know if you know this or not, but

607
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.920
did you know Frank was supposed to be played by

608
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:22.880
John c Riley?

609
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.200
Okay, so I didn't see that. I was. I was

610
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:29.559
all excited about Ooh, I'm gonna let everyone know about

611
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.680
Van Dam. But you're saying, so John c Riley's the original.

612
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.440
Yeah, James wanted John c Riley to play it. He

613
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.319
was writing it for him, but apparently John c Riley

614
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:43.039
wasn't what a big enough name at the time. So

615
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.599
that's kind of when why they went with Ring Wilson

616
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:46.759
in that role.

617
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.400
Really, because I'm thinking John c Riley, this this movie

618
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.519
comes out in twenty eleven, so at this point, he's

619
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:54.640
already done Step Brothers.

620
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:56.400
Yeah, he's a big I think he.

621
00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.759
I think he's done Talladega Knights, right, How is he's

622
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:01.720
done Boogie Nights? I know for a fact, how is it?

623
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:04.519
How did the studios not see him as a big

624
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:05.119
enough name.

625
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:06.240
That's a good question.

626
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:10.440
That's weird. That not that I'm not wanting Ray Wilson

627
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:13.319
in this role, but yeah, I just that's kind of strange.

628
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.559
I think part of it was when he was doing

629
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:18.839
writing the movie, he wanted to bring this out sooner

630
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.640
than the twenty ten that we got. So maybe until

631
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:25.359
four those movies came out because he struggled to get

632
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.680
it made because the violence and stuff, nobody wanted to

633
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.240
touch it. So I think some of it was that.

634
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:36.759
But Gunn his ex wife Jenni Fisher, who as we

635
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:40.160
all know, was in the office with Rain Wilson. She

636
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.119
recommended rain Wilson for the role of Frank, So James Gunn,

637
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.960
you know, she gave him the script. He liked it

638
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:51.759
and you know, became the part of Frank. But he

639
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:56.240
also brought on Elliott Page because they were together in Juno.

640
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.000
Oh that's right, Ray Wilson was in Juno.

641
00:33:59.319 --> 00:33:59.559
Yep.

642
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:03.799
Okay, that's an interesting way. That's an interesting connection. So

643
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:09.039
Studio says no to John c Riley, his ex wife

644
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.559
Jenny Fisher, who he's he's he's still friendly with, you know,

645
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.960
she's been in a couple of his movies. So she

646
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:23.440
recommends Rain Wilson. Rain Wilson recommends Elliott Page. Yep. I

647
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:29.559
wonder who recommended Economos. I'm not gonna leave. I'm not

648
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.199
gonna leave Steve a Gyaleen probably today today. I love

649
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.639
that guy. I just love I love the character and

650
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:35.320
peace Makers.

651
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:36.280
So absolutely.

652
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:40.039
I know you kind of alluded to what you'd say.

653
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:43.760
You you were saying, like your favorite scene, Uh, one

654
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.719
thing I want to talk about. Uh, let's talk about

655
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.960
the pivotal scene in this film. I'm not going to

656
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.679
ask you what you like, what you don't like, what

657
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.400
your favorite scene was. I want to know, David, is

658
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.360
there a is there one scene in this film that

659
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.960
you think is vital to its success or pivotal to

660
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:06.840
telling the story, Like is there is there one moment

661
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.840
where you're like, you know what, Without that scene, this

662
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.079
film doesn't work for me.

663
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.239
And I alluded to this herd the beginning of the podcast.

664
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.599
It's the ending. How you're going to bring this movie

665
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:25.039
to a closure is huge in any movie because it's

666
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.320
going to make you realize, I've invested all this time

667
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.840
into these characters, and if you don't give me the

668
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:33.119
ending that I want, uh, it's going to just ruin

669
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:36.320
the whole thing for me. For this, I was getting

670
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.079
to the point where Frank was just bothering me. You know,

671
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:41.840
he was pissing me off because he was this you know,

672
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:44.159
he was just going around beating people. He was wanting

673
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:45.960
to be a superhero, but at some point he wasn't

674
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.039
a superhero. And then I understand what he was trying

675
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.079
to do. He's wanting to get his wife Sarah back.

676
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.880
But what I loved loved about this script and I

677
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.679
loved about this movie. I appreciate where James Gounn went

678
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:01.119
with it. The fact that he he gets Sarah back

679
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:07.320
only for Sarah to leave him again, And to me,

680
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.639
that built his character into this. He did all of

681
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:14.719
this to prove to himself that him and Sarah weren't

682
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.880
to be together. But he's a real superhero because he

683
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:26.039
was sacrificing himself for somebody else. She went on to

684
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:29.320
become a better person, She went on to have a family,

685
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:33.079
she went on to have kids, a husband, and if

686
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.880
he hadn't done what he did, none of that would

687
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:39.880
have happened for Sarah. And to me, that was pivotal

688
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.440
for the entire movie and made me appreciate Frank Moore

689
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.679
because he ended the story pretty much where he began

690
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:52.599
alone but went out of his way to take care

691
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:54.800
of someone.

692
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.880
I agree with you one hundred percent. This might be

693
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:04.400
one of the most emotionally satisfying endings to a movie

694
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:10.519
that doesn't have the quote unquote happy ending, right, yep,

695
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:15.000
Because he does save her life. And I'm not saying yeah,

696
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.400
technically he saves her life from the bad guys, but

697
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.480
he saves her life because he gives her the opportunity

698
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.000
to have the life that she should have always had exactly.

699
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:26.480
So I absolutely love that. I love the fact, you know,

700
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:28.880
the movie kind of they do this great bookend thing

701
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.960
with the pictures on the wall. You know, you talked

702
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.480
about his two favorite moments the day he married Sarah

703
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:37.639
and the day he helped the police officer catch a

704
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:41.800
bad guy. Yep, he draws, almost like a child would.

705
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:43.719
He draws the picture and he puts him on the

706
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.639
on the on the wall, and it's like his daily affirmation. Right,

707
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:48.320
He's like, all right, I will look at these and

708
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.440
I will start my days off great knowing that this

709
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:55.159
is this is the best I ever did. And now

710
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.679
we when we come to the ending, it's Sarah's children

711
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.920
who know him as uncle Frank, and he's getting the

712
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.960
photo that he's getting their handmade drawings or crayon drawings,

713
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.880
and he's seeing all this other nice moments that he did,

714
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.679
like where he's just helping people at work and you know,

715
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.400
he's friendly moments between him and other people. And you

716
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:19.119
see that Frank has had the opportunity to grow as

717
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.039
a person. You know, now he's not socially awkward. He's

718
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:26.800
out there living his best life and it's not with her,

719
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:30.000
but it's still it's still pretty damn good. Yeah, because

720
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:33.440
he this is a character that you know, it's odd

721
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:35.719
because like you said, he is right back where he started.

722
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.920
But he's back where he started. But he also it's

723
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.840
almost like hitting the reset button because he now is

724
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:45.519
a better person, He's stronger, and he's he's happier.

725
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:50.360
Right yep. I love that moment me too. That that

726
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.280
changed the whole movie for me, It really did.

727
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750
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751
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.880
Welcome back, everybody. So, Jeff, we know this is directed

752
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.360
by James Gunn. What can you tell us about him?

753
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:09.239
Dave? What can I not tell you about James Francis

754
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:13.639
Gunn Junior. I'll try to be as brief as possible,

755
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:17.159
because man, I mean, we're not talking about someone that's

756
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:20.159
been on the scene for forty fifty years. But there

757
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.679
is a lot to talk about, so buckle up, I

758
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:26.199
will tell you this. He is from a big family

759
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:30.239
from Saint Louis, Missouri. At age twelve, Like a lot

760
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.719
of directors we've talked about, he begins making movies on

761
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:38.960
eight millimeter with his brothers in the genre of comedic splatter,

762
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.920
which if you think about his work, that makes perfect sense,

763
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.920
right because he was actually inspired by Knight and Living Dead,

764
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.480
Friday thirteenth and Fangoria magazine.

765
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:49.159
Nice.

766
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:54.840
He's awesome. Yeah, yeah. So the crazy thing here is

767
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.000
he drops out of Saint Louis University High College preparatory

768
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:02.159
school to pursue a career in rock and roll.

769
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.519
Really right, interesting, Okay.

770
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:11.599
He forms a band called the Icons. He's the lead singer.

771
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:16.199
They release an album in nineteen ninety four called Mom

772
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:20.559
We Like It Here on Earth. Now. I can't tell you.

773
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:23.519
Two singles off of that album end up in Trauma movies.

774
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:25.760
We'll have to talk the connection.

775
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:29.079
There's another connection. We'll have to talk to Dayton Johnson

776
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:30.960
at Docu Bay seventy seven to see if we can

777
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.559
get an album review of Mom We Like It Here

778
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.559
on Earth. So, Daton, if you're listening, please help us

779
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:37.920
out with that.

780
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.840
Yeah, get on the Dayton now now.

781
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:47.000
He does eventually return to school, receives his BA. After college,

782
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:50.400
he's doing odd jobs here and there before interviewing for

783
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:56.199
a summer job at Trouma Studios to file paperwork. And

784
00:41:56.280 --> 00:42:01.480
guess what, Dave, he doesn't file paperwork. He gets paid

785
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.559
one hundred and fifty dollars to write his first script,

786
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:11.360
Tromio and Juliet. So he wrote that. Yeah, have you

787
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:11.920
seen that one?

788
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:17.239
No, I've heard of it, but it is weird, dude.

789
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:18.920
I mean, well, we're talking about Troma movie. So to

790
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.800
say it's weird as that's like saying, well, yeah, it's

791
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:25.800
a it's a movie. It's that's all their stuff. The

792
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:30.320
cool thing here is that he actually befriends Lloyd Kaufman,

793
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:32.679
who we know who that is. You can't talk about

794
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:37.199
trauma without talking about Lloyd Coufman, yep. But Lloyd actually

795
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.719
becomes his mentor in a way. And while working with

796
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:46.760
Lloyd Kaufman, James Gunn learns how to write screenplays, scout locations, direct, produce,

797
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:50.639
create his own poster artwork. I mean he's getting a

798
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:55.440
film school education from Lloydkaufman basically. Yeah, And together they

799
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:58.119
write the book All I need to know about filmmaking

800
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:02.079
I learned from The Toxic Avenger. Hmmm, so we got

801
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:03.159
to put that on the shopping list.

802
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:04.119
Yeah, no kidding.

803
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:08.639
Yeah, Now he's got you know, he's kind of got experience.

804
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.920
He writes a script for Warner Brothers. Do you remember

805
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:13.840
the Mad magazine the Spy Versus Spy?

806
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:14.320
Yeah?

807
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:19.800
Sure, cartoons, So he writes Spy Versus Spy for Warner Brothers.

808
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.679
They pass on it, but like what they see so

809
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.679
that instead they hire him to write Scooby Doo.

810
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:27.480
Yeah, I knew he wrote Scooby Doo.

811
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:31.360
Yeah. After Scooby Doo, obviously, he goes on to write

812
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:35.000
both the Dawn of the Dead remake and Scooby Doo

813
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:40.079
two Monsters Unleashed. Now this is impressive because this makes

814
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:43.719
him the first screenwriter in the history of cinema to

815
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.719
write back to back number one at the box office hits.

816
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:50.960
So think about that. Donna the Dead comes out number

817
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:52.440
one at the box office. I remember you and I

818
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.320
went and saw it. I think it was awesome.

819
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:54.760
Yeah.

820
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:59.360
A week later, new number one movie at the box office,

821
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.320
Scooby Doo, Monsters Unleashed.

822
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.960
M Dang Kame's Gun. You got it going on?

823
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.800
Man? He does. And you know, basically it's at this

824
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.880
point now he is, He's arrived. He can he can

825
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:12.360
make he can make a movie if he wants. He's

826
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:13.159
gonna direct something.

827
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:13.960
Uh.

828
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.880
And before we get into his filmography, let's just talk

829
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:21.360
about two other accolades. You you kind of mentioned this before,

830
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:26.440
but uh, he marries Jenni Fisher in two thousand, the

831
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:32.119
adorable Pam Beasley. You know, they're married, a great relationship.

832
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:35.320
It only lasts seven years. It ends on good terms

833
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:41.199
and now he's currently married to Jennifer Holland, Uh impressive

834
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:44.360
actress who uh we know in love in the Peacemaker

835
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:50.920
series YEP, where she plays Hardcourt, co starring Steve Agee

836
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:56.800
as economists. I can't get away from that guy. Dave,

837
00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:58.960
you want to talk a little bit about this filmography, because.

838
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:00.079
Uh, yeah, let's talk about it.

839
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.159
It it's not it's not a long one by by

840
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:06.280
any stretching the imagination, but it is quite impressive. We

841
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:10.280
talked about, you know, his the writing, the screenwriting he

842
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:12.920
did with Trim and Juliet and yescub Doo Donna Dead

843
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.559
two thousand and six, the monster movie Slither m.

844
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:19.760
This is very That was a very unusual movie too.

845
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.000
I remember Nathan Fillion plays in that too, doesn't he.

846
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:25.119
Yeah, you got Nathan Fillion as a as the police chief.

847
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.880
Elizabeth Banks, Uh, she's in it. Michael Rooker playing the head,

848
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:33.559
the main villain who. You know. The thing, the weird

849
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:35.920
thing is with Michael Rooker, because I know we've already

850
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:40.280
talked about him. I feel like somewhere in the nineties

851
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.440
he goes from playing hero or like cool guy, right,

852
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.519
you know, I think like Cliffhanger, Days of Thunder Tombstone,

853
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:53.039
somewhere along the lines. He like, when he starts shaving

854
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:54.679
his head, he just became a bad guy.

855
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.159
Like it's the hair man, is it?

856
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.800
If you get Michael Rooker with a shaved head, he's

857
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.199
he's immediately a bad guy. Think about it. You know,

858
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.360
mal rats Slither, he's always Yeah, I don't know, I

859
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.760
don't know. I don't know. What's that saying about us

860
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:18.840
that we look villainous? Yeah, but Jenni Fisher, she's in,

861
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:22.960
She's in Slyther. I love Slither because it is a

862
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.280
good old fashioned monster movie.

863
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:27.199
Yeah, it's great.

864
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:32.360
It reminds me. Also, we talked on the nineteen sixth series.

865
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:34.480
We talked. I talked with Jason Colvin from Shore you

866
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:38.239
Can't Be Serious podcast about Night of the Creeps and

867
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:40.559
this is that similar thing. You got these like slimy

868
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.599
slug things from outer space. Yep, you know crash land

869
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.480
on Earth and you know small town America and they're

870
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:52.559
running rampant disgusting. Though again, Gun does not hold back

871
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.840
on the gore in Slither, and you shouldn't. I love

872
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:59.400
it though, it's just like, yeah, definitely shouldn't because it's

873
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.519
got its comedicy moments. Two. But if you've not seen

874
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:04.199
sleother that is that is fantastic.

875
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:04.760
Yep.

876
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.760
Four years later, he's you know, writes directs super We've

877
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:11.880
been talking about that. He has built up a name

878
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.480
for himself. Obviously when it comes to screenwriting, he's a

879
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:19.679
hit maker. And that's when twenty fourteen, the the MCU

880
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:20.719
comes knocking.

881
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:22.679
And his career really takes off.

882
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:27.519
Guardians of the Galaxy. Yep. I'm gonna ask you, because Dave,

883
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:29.719
I know you're an avid comic book reader, just like

884
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:33.440
just like James Gunn and just like myself. Were you

885
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:37.119
aware of Guardians? Because I know they're we're talking like

886
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:39.400
at this point, they're I don't even know if they're

887
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:43.960
C level characters, right, you know? I think I I

888
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.119
vaguely remembered them in like a team up, but that

889
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:49.719
I couldn't have told you anyone, because I remember when

890
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:51.920
Guardians comes out, I was like, I don't know if

891
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:52.639
this is gonna work.

892
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:55.800
I was the same way Jeff. I didn't know anything

893
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:57.719
about it because I remember when it was being announced,

894
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.920
I was like, what, who, I don't know this comic book.

895
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:04.039
And then when the trailer came out, I'm like, oh,

896
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.320
this actually looks pretty fun, and sure enough it was

897
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:08.280
a lot of fun.

898
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:12.280
Yeah. Guardians of the Galaxy the tenth film in the

899
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:17.000
MCU and Man at a time where people are starting

900
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:21.079
to go Marvel's getting a little little bit, you know,

901
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:24.840
the formula is getting a little old. This completely changes.

902
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:27.559
The game, right. Oh it was fresh, all new characters.

903
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:32.320
We've never seen a new story. Absolutely, yeah, I loved it.

904
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:35.840
Something two years later, twenty sixteen, he doesn't direct this,

905
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.119
but he does write it and produce it. Did you

906
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:39.679
ever see the Belco Experiment?

907
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:41.079
No, I've not seen that.

908
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.280
You gotta check this one out. Aside from the fact

909
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.760
that it's a really cool horror film, it's this weird

910
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:51.440
It's like a social experiment that goes horribly wrong. So

911
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.760
you're in an office building where it's almost like Jigsaw

912
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.599
from Saul is in charge. It's like a corporate, corporate

913
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:03.159
setting and these uh, these employees get locked into their

914
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:07.440
high rise building. I remember the voice. A voice basically

915
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.679
comes on and says, you know, not everyone's getting out alive.

916
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.119
So it's it's it's almost like it's like a Battle

917
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:18.360
Royale type of situation where here's the weapons, and if

918
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:21.119
you don't start killing each other, everyone dies. They have

919
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.480
to make choices. It is, it's crazy. Michael Rooker is

920
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:26.719
in it. Michael Rooker, I think if I remember, he

921
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:30.760
plays like a maintenance guy. I think it is wild.

922
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:31.079
Though.

923
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:34.639
Sean guns in it. I can tell you that. Yeah,

924
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:38.960
of course he is. But it's it's a really cool thriller.

925
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:42.199
It's a it's a fun horror film. I would definitely

926
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.159
put it on your radar because it's cool. You'll you'll

927
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.440
like it, I promise you. Okay, back to back to

928
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:53.800
Marvel Guardians of the Galaxy Volume two Kurt Russell, who

929
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:57.239
we love. Yeah, but not a lot of people loved

930
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:03.199
volume two, now I did. So did you ever understand

931
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:05.039
like where people are like it wasn't as good, Like

932
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.679
are they just being superhero snobs?

933
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.480
Or I think so? Because I enjoyed that movie a lot.

934
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:12.199
I don't know where they're coming from on that. It

935
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:13.719
had a lot of motion, it had a lot of heart,

936
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.719
and it had a lot of comedy, and I was

937
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:17.400
very entertained it did.

938
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:19.599
And that's the one that kind of gives us like

939
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:23.519
that's where Drax kind of takes the comedic route, you know,

940
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:25.360
with his like I'm so still you can't see me.

941
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:27.079
Yeah, I don't know.

942
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:29.639
I loved it, you know, a Rockets, Rockets coming into

943
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:32.320
his own. I think it's a fantastic film. I loved it.

944
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.599
So right after this, he does what might be one

945
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:41.719
of the coolest superhero films that you don't know as

946
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:44.519
a superhero film. Now he didn't direct. Again, Dave, I'm

947
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.159
cheating a little bit because he didn't direct it, but

948
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:48.960
he did. He did produce this one, and you know,

949
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:50.920
I think he had his hands were in it a

950
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.159
little bit. I'm talking about a film called bright Burn.

951
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:56.320
Oh I forgot about that one.

952
00:50:56.639 --> 00:51:00.480
Yeah, did you see that? It's the the idea of

953
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.079
the synopsis, if you will. It's what a Superman landed

954
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:08.880
on Earth and wasn't good, wasn't a nice guy. It's

955
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:13.519
all about Elizabeth Banks, who we you know, who was

956
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:18.159
in Slyther. Her and her husband like they they they're farmers,

957
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:22.480
you know. The meteorite crashes very much Superman like. Oh yeah,

958
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.599
they they there's a baby inside. They Hey, it's our

959
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:29.000
it's our child, you know. And then as this kid

960
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.840
grows up, he gets strong, he gets these powers, but

961
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.119
he's a little he's a little dark. Yeah, well it's yeah,

962
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:40.159
he doesn't understand like it's like he just like he's

963
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:42.920
got that child childlike mentality of like I want something,

964
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:45.239
and if I want it, why can't I have it?

965
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:49.079
But the only thing is where your normal twelve year

966
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:51.760
old like you can ground and send them to the room.

967
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.960
This kid can like burn your skull open with with

968
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.760
laser shooting, have his eyes. So it's a it's really

969
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.119
man but really cool. I love Breidburne. It's it's one

970
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.159
of those, you know, great superhero film that you don't

971
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.920
know as a superhero film. Yeah, loved it. Well, it

972
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:13.159
sounds like you love it too. I did. In twenty

973
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:17.280
twenty one, though, he goes back to the I shouldn't

974
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:21.159
say the lighter side of superhero the other side superhero world,

975
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:23.199
but he does go to the other side. Yeah, with

976
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:26.760
the d C Extended Universe does the suicide Squad? What

977
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:27.679
you what did you think of that?

978
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.039
A lot of fun. I know they had done a

979
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:34.000
suicide Squad before, which yep, wasn't that good. This one

980
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.159
was much much better. And of course the James gun

981
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:38.800
in control. That's why it turned out as good as

982
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:40.559
it did. I had a lot of fun in this movie.

983
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:45.880
I'm I'm one of the few people that it's willing

984
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.000
to admit that the First Suicide Squad. I liked it.

985
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.719
I enjoyed it. It had its it had its major mistakes,

986
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:54.280
but it also had some really cool stuff in it.

987
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:54.840
Yep.

988
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:59.039
But James Gunn taking his version, and this is where

989
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.679
DC is smart. James Gunn is brilliant because it's not

990
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:07.800
a remake. Nope, it's just it's a continuation, right, So

991
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:11.239
the first one counts. The first one is is in

992
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.599
Cannon and he finds a way to make it his

993
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:17.400
own thing. Keeping a couple couple of characters from the

994
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:22.000
first movie holds him over. YEP. Introduces us to a

995
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:26.400
whole new cast of incredibly awesome characters. Uh, definitely looking

996
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.039
at you sliced alone with with King Shark.

997
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:33.519
And I oh, I did too. I did too, Absolutely

998
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.039
loved it. And James going gets his taste of DC

999
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:37.599
and we know where that's.

1000
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:41.760
Going all we do. And uh, ironically we were just

1001
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.800
talking how remember how I said. Uh, Guardians of the

1002
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:49.239
Galaxy was the tenth movie for the MCU. Yep, James

1003
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.760
Gunn's the Suicide Squad is the tenth movie for the

1004
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:59.280
DC Extended Universe, So coincidence maybe.

1005
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:00.000
Maybe maybe not?

1006
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:04.800
Maybe? Uh, so he's been busy. Uh We've got Dave.

1007
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:08.360
We're just a couple of days away from Uh. Guardians

1008
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:11.280
at the Galaxy Volume three, can't wait hitting hitting theaters.

1009
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:15.000
I am super excited for this one because that trailer

1010
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:18.840
it looks like all bets are off, Like I, you know,

1011
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:20.800
you and I were talking when we first saw the trailer, like,

1012
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:23.880
someone's not making it out of this, you know, is

1013
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:26.320
it is it? Peter? No, No, it's tracks. No, no,

1014
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.519
it's rocket Like we the trailer like, whoever cut that

1015
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:34.000
trailer is brilliant because you just don't know what to expect.

1016
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:35.760
Right right, Yeah, they hide it well, but it's definitely

1017
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.039
gonna be an emotional roller coaster. You can see it's coming.

1018
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:42.679
I think you're right, it's it looks so good. This

1019
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:44.960
is this is a great way for him to to

1020
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.639
head out of the MC right. Take his take his exit.

1021
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:48.199
Yep.

1022
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:51.199
Because we didn't really talk about the Holiday special. Do

1023
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:52.360
you want to talk about that real quick?

1024
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:55.159
The one with we where we get Kevin Bacon in it,

1025
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:56.960
which I think is hysterical.

1026
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:02.280
Yeah, that was I like that Disney is doing stuff

1027
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:04.239
like that, where hey, it's gonna be a couple of

1028
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:06.960
years before you see these guys together again, but here's

1029
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:08.400
something fun for you to hold you over.

1030
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:09.840
Yeah.

1031
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.679
When I first heard wait, James Gunn's doing a holiday

1032
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:16.519
a Christmas special for the Guardians of the Galaxy that

1033
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:18.480
I don't know how that's gonna work, but I thought

1034
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:21.639
it was fun. I enjoy this, you know, and it

1035
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.000
got me excited for Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three,

1036
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:26.440
ye until the trailer came out, and then was like,

1037
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:29.079
oh wow, this is it's funny. Don't get me wrong.

1038
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:32.599
The trailer has some funny moments, especially between Nebula and

1039
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:37.599
Peter in that elevator wherever they're at. But but for

1040
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:39.960
every moment that you want to laugh in the trailer,

1041
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:42.920
there's there's two moments where you're like, oh man, this

1042
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:43.599
doesn't look good.

1043
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:45.440
O corrupt, what's going to happen? I know?

1044
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:49.840
Yeah, speaking of what's going to happen, we gotta talk

1045
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:50.920
about what's next on his plate?

1046
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:53.880
Yeah, and you know what something next on his plate?

1047
00:55:54.519 --> 00:56:01.079
Superman? Yeah, Superman Legacy. Yeah, he is writing it. He's

1048
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:05.000
directing it, he's producing it. So I'm gonna ask you, Dave,

1049
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:11.039
because everyone immediately had an opinion. So look, you know me,

1050
00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:14.079
I'm one of the biggest Superman fans out there.

1051
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:14.679
Yep.

1052
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:20.960
I love Christopher Reeve. I have loved Henry Cavill in

1053
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:24.599
the role Gun. You know, he gets the he gets

1054
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:26.880
the job. Ever, at DC, he's running the show. Now

1055
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.840
he's going to kind of make a a They're kind

1056
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:33.440
of wiping this slate clean, so to speak, and starting

1057
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:37.880
from scratch, and you know, Henry Cavill does not fit

1058
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:42.280
into his Superman plans, so you know, immediately he you know,

1059
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.719
he starts a little bit of a backlash. But of

1060
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.440
course I'm gonna say this. I get it, Like, you

1061
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:52.760
can't restart an entire franchise. You can't do a whole

1062
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:56.360
bunch of world building right where you're gonna have like,

1063
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.920
you know, three maybe four more Superman movies or three

1064
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:05.440
four more Superman appearances with with a Superman that's that's

1065
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.519
not age appropriate. And I say that meaning you know,

1066
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:12.000
you know at the time, like let's just assume that

1067
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:14.960
you know, the next Superman movie is gonna be a hit. Well,

1068
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.320
we're a good five six years away from the next one,

1069
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:21.440
and at that point, Henry Cavill's gonna be in his

1070
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.639
his late forties, I believe, maybe old for it. Yeah,

1071
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:28.880
so I love his performance, and absolutely I think that

1072
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:32.599
I think the mistake here wasn't in recasting. It was

1073
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:36.880
just and not moving forward like an Elseworld's title where

1074
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:40.360
we get one final Superman movie with Henry Cavill. Yeah,

1075
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:41.840
you know, kind of like the and they're doing this

1076
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:45.440
Elseworld stuff. You know, Matt Reeves has the Batman right,

1077
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:48.880
you know that's going on. Todd Phillips, you know, he's

1078
00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:50.559
got his Joker thing happening, and we got a new

1079
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:53.960
Joker movie coming out. I don't think it's I don't

1080
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:55.400
think it would have been out of line to have

1081
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:59.199
Henry Cavill give him his right off into the Sunset film,

1082
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:02.360
Do take one of the take one of the many

1083
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:08.440
numerous popular graphic novels. Yeah, and do a Superman movie

1084
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:11.480
with Henry Cavill, one one last one. I mean, could

1085
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.360
you imagine if we could have had Henry Cavill do

1086
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:16.800
like Red Sun. Oh my goodness, how great would that

1087
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:17.119
have been?

1088
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:18.440
It would have been wonderful.

1089
00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:24.239
And then just quietly let's reboot with Superman Legacy. So yeah, yeah,

1090
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:30.199
interesting enough. Superman Legacy. So James Gunn just recently, uh

1091
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:33.000
he because he's pretty vocal on social media, and he

1092
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:36.760
was talking about how the casting process is going with

1093
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.480
the film and it's coming together and he he says

1094
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:44.400
he's excited and he's relieved. So again, this guy's track

1095
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:49.719
record with superhero movies. I trust him. Yeah, Dave, listen

1096
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:54.760
to this. Here's the official synopsis for Superman Legacy. Superman

1097
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:58.519
Legacy tells the story of Superman's journey to reconcile his

1098
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:03.440
Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing as Clark Kent of Smallville, Kansas.

1099
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.639
He is the embodiment of truth, justice in the American way,

1100
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:10.760
guided by human kindness in a world that sees kindness

1101
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:15.440
as old fashioned. M Now I do know. Also, uh,

1102
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:19.320
I think uh gun has been on record as saying,

1103
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:22.559
who is at Grant Morrison that did All Star Superman?

1104
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:24.159
Uh?

1105
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.239
He was. He was influenced, heavily influenced by by that,

1106
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.960
by that story. So okay, cool, I think it would

1107
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:33.280
be good. Uh DC. You know, they got their further

1108
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:38.480
phase one chapter one, Gods and Monsters, so we got

1109
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:40.719
this Superman legacy kicking it off. We got a Batman

1110
00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:43.480
and Robin movie, we got Swamp Thing, we got Supergirl,

1111
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:49.320
a whole bunch of shows. I I'm hopeful at this point.

1112
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:52.079
I am too. I just don't don't put all the

1113
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.559
blame on James Gunn people who are out there. This

1114
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:57.559
is a Warner Brothers mess. James guns going in here

1115
00:59:57.559 --> 00:59:59.639
and trying to clean up, and I'm glad they finally

1116
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.320
have somebody who's in charge, who is going to steer

1117
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:05.119
this ship, hopefully in the right direction. I have faith

1118
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:07.480
in James gun I really do, and I can't wait

1119
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:09.519
to see what he brings to us on screen for Superman.

1120
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:12.079
And just like you, Jeff, Christopher Reeves always going to

1121
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:14.920
be the best Superman. No one is going to come

1122
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:18.480
close to him. Henry Cavell did an incredible job at Superman,

1123
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:20.519
and I'm going to struggle a little bit when we

1124
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:23.760
get the new actor. But again, I have faith in

1125
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:24.400
James gun.

1126
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.840
Speaking of having faith in James gun do you recommend

1127
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:31.679
that the listeners check out the film super Absolutely?

1128
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:33.719
And one thing I would like to relate to this

1129
01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:38.480
movie in some way or fashion, it relates to ego

1130
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:42.320
versus Shark in the quirkiness, the way it was shot,

1131
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:44.599
and the odd humor. It really feels like that to me.

1132
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:48.400
You're right now that I'm thinking about it. There's moments

1133
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:52.159
I'm watching this it does feel like Taikawatiti is behind

1134
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:53.079
the lens on this.

1135
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:54.159
It does.

1136
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:58.039
There's moments I felt Kevin Smith, oh yeah, was behind

1137
01:00:58.039 --> 01:00:59.000
the lens. So it's kind of.

1138
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:01.079
A mixture of a lot of that, and you get

1139
01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:04.239
that vibe when you're watching the movie. So yes, see

1140
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:07.440
this movie because it does. It's it's violent, it's got

1141
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:09.280
some humor, it's got some fun. But in the end,

1142
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.000
you're going to get a good message.

1143
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:13.960
Not one that you want to watch with the kids.

1144
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:16.800
I'll tell you that right now, But I say, yeah,

1145
01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:20.480
absolutely check this one out. It is not a it's

1146
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:24.480
not your run of the mill superhero film, and I

1147
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:26.280
think part of that is what makes it makes it

1148
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:29.360
so good. I agree, Dave W Did you catch this one?

1149
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:32.079
I saw it on tub I had to watch a

1150
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:34.400
few commercials, but I got to watch it for free

1151
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:36.320
and got to enjoy a good time.

1152
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:40.920
Can I just can I just give an unsolicited promo

1153
01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:44.400
for tub right now? I am I am not a

1154
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:47.719
paid actor. I am not a paid voice actor, but

1155
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:52.559
I will tell you I love to be this man.

1156
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:56.800
Don't It just blows my mind that it's free. You

1157
01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:58.960
don't have to be subscribing to anything. You just have

1158
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:03.639
to have on your TV. That's it, you know. And

1159
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:07.119
there's so much good uh. I mean, this is a

1160
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:11.000
situation where you can watch these these underground you know,

1161
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:15.800
independent movies like like Super They've got new stuff, They've

1162
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:18.960
got the entire series of like Miami Vice and the

1163
01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:22.320
A Team Like you, I don't care what show you

1164
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:26.920
want to watch. It's probably on two B probably yeah,

1165
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:30.719
uncut movies. But like you said, you're gonna you know,

1166
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:34.679
you're gonna have some ad breaks occasionally. And I don't mind.

1167
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:38.599
I don't you know, ye who are we to question

1168
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:40.199
free content?

1169
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:43.880
Exactly right?

1170
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:47.519
All right, well listen, I think that's gonna do it

1171
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:52.000
for us. Uh, Dave, I know I'm gonna see you

1172
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:54.119
in just a few days because we're gonna be heading

1173
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:57.519
We're gonna be heading back to the box office to

1174
01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:00.760
see Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three. Are we gonna

1175
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:02.519
make time. We're gonna stop in the studio and uh

1176
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:05.760
and give our give our listeners a review on that one.

1177
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:07.920
You think absolute louis are Jeff.

1178
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.320
I think we should. I feel like we we got

1179
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:12.880
a little lazy. We you know, well it's not you. No,

1180
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:14.320
that's not the right way to say it, Dave. We

1181
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:17.000
we've been busy. There's been so much there's been so

1182
01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:17.760
much going on.

1183
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:18.559
Yep.

1184
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:20.880
Uh, but we've still been seeing some good movies.

1185
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:21.760
Uh.

1186
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:25.920
And we'll we'll let you guys know what we think

1187
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:30.079
about Guardians of Galaxy for sure. All right, Well, Dave,

1188
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:34.719
I'm gonna ask you before I let you go. I

1189
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:38.599
know you guys only have a few episodes left, Yes,

1190
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:40.480
but I'm curious, what do you What do you guys

1191
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:43.159
got next week? What do you what are you guys

1192
01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:46.039
doing on a film at forty five?

1193
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:50.519
Well, we're still going down the rabbit hole, you might say,

1194
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:55.119
with another animated classic from the nineteen seventy eight, which

1195
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:56.639
is a watership.

1196
01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:59.119
Down Jeff, I have not seen that since I was

1197
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:05.400
very young. I remember it did a little bit there.

1198
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:09.880
Oh man, you guys are covered that one. I can't. Yeah,

1199
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:11.599
loved what you guys had to say about Lord of

1200
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:14.719
the Rings because again that was as a kid. That's

1201
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:16.880
the cartoon I always remembered, was you know that in

1202
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.760
the Hobbit, and you guys were fantastic on that one

1203
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:23.320
as well. But uh, I'm uh, I'm kind of excited

1204
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:27.519
because the next time on a film buy, we're gonna

1205
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:31.079
talk about another blockbuster director uh jj Abrams, and we're

1206
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:32.639
talking about one of your favorite We're talking about one

1207
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:33.559
of your favorite films, Dave.

1208
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.119
Oh yeah, I loved that we were gonna be talking

1209
01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:39.039
about we know what that is, right, yeah, let them know,

1210
01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:40.280
Super Great.

1211
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:45.480
Super eight, a film about young James Gun making splatter

1212
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:51.760
comedies camera. It is not about James Gun, but it

1213
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.840
is awesome and we'll be talking about that one next

1214
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:58.119
time as well. So until then, we'll see you next time.

1215
01:04:58.440 --> 01:04:59.199
Let see you next time.

1216
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:27.920
Hm. I've had the voice of Burl Lives all freaking day,

1217
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:31.360
and the minute I hit the record button, I sound

1218
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:35.119
like Smiegele trying to boff up a he's a bone

1219
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:40.199
from a fish or something. It's ridiculous, ridiculous,