March 9, 2025

Nancy Meyers - The Intern

Nancy Meyers - The Intern

Experience never gets old! Jeff and Amber explore the ups and downs of intergenerational friendship and workplace dynamics in Nancy Meyers' charming comedy, The Intern!

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Freud said love and work, work and love. That's all

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there is. He was wrong, Amber. There's there's also podcasts, right,

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there's there's Women's History Month. Yeah, there's there's great women

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directing films. Yes, let's talk about one of them. I'd

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like to talk about a film by Nancy Myers, her

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twenty fifteen underrated. She's called it comedy, drama, edy.

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I call it a comedy.

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Let's go comedy.

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Surprisingly, they're not like a rom com, just a comedy.

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Not a rom com, just comedy. It's the intern. Welcome back.

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I am Jeff Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis, and this is

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a film by podcast Amber. Before we begin, I just

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want to thank you again. Last week we had a

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last minute had an amazing conversation. We had a lot

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of fun sharing our top ten favorite Gene Hackman performances.

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Yes, that was so much fun.

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A lot of good feedback quickly popping up for that one.

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I knew, I knew, I knew that would happen. Thank

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you again. That was a fun time.

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Yes, thank you for having me. It was a good time.

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Last week we were talking about one of my favorite directors,

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Darren Aronofski. We covered black Swan, which was actually celebrating

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its fifteenth anniversary, which we weren't planning that, and come

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to find we're talking about another movie celebrating its fifteenth

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anniversary this year. I'm gonna have to go back and

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check the schedule and see if, like if March, if

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it's just happenstance at March, we're just doing nothing but

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fifteenth anniversaries because we're two for two. Now, if you're

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not paying attention Nancy Myers, I got a couple of

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facts for you. I got a quote for you. An

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accomplished screenwriter and you know this Amber She first became

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interested in writing after she saw Mike Nichols The Graduate

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in nineteen sixty seven. Now correct me if I'm wrong.

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We did Mike Nichols Wolf last year. Yes, and aren't

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you covering another Mike Nichols film soon?

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Yes, we are doing Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf?

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So so it's it's Wolf to Wolf with ambera. Yes,

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basically all right. Nancy Myers has final cut privilege on

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her films, which is uncommon for most directors working in Hollywood.

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This means that no one, including the studio studio executives producers,

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even the star. None of them can change her cut

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of the film. What Nancy says goes. So that's a

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pretty impressive. You know.

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Yeah, not a lot of people have that. But I

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think everybody knows what they're signing up for when you

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make a Nancy Meyer's movie.

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So I think, so, yeah, I'll tell you what you

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might be signing up for. Two of her common trademarks

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are successful women as the protagonists in kitchens with extravagant

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decor as a set piece. Have you ever picked up

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on that?

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I am so glad you mentioned this, because her movies,

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like it's just like wrapping yourself in like a cozy

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cashmir sweater. Like every buddy is successful, they're beautiful, they

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have money, they have these beautiful houses, and she has

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this thing for kitchens and they're all very different. But

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every time you're like, oh, but I want that one.

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When you watch a Nancy Myers film, you're already looking for,

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like the scene where we're gonna be in the kitchen,

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because it's gonna be one hell of a kitchen. That's

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how it is.

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Yes, absolutely, I gotta be honest.

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I don't know how she would feel about us covering

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one of her films during Women's History Month. And I

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say that because I got a quote here she was

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talking about women directing movies and she says, we don't

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want to be our own niche. We're filmmakers like everybody.

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How many years in a row are we going to

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talk about the fact that we make films and we

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are women enough already preach sister Amber. Please make a

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note that the next time we talk about Nancy Myers,

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it'll be like October December. Just it won't be it

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won't be Women's History Month.

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There is an element of it where when you start

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saying female director, it kind of has this tinge to it,

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of like it's a monkey riding a bike or something.

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So to just say director and that's.

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Enough, Okay, that's fair. Yeah, I got nothing, I got

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that's okay, good job. We'll walk the line here and

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just be like, let's move on.

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Let's move on before I get in trouble.

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This was a first time watch for both of us,

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Am I right?

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Yes?

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Okay? I imagine some of our listeners maybe have not

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seen The Intern. They don't know what The Intern is about.

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Will you give us a little synopsis?

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Sure, seventy year old widower Ben Whittaker played by Robert

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de Niro, has just cover the retirement isn't all that

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it's cracked up to be. Seizing an opportunity to get

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back in the game, he becomes a senior intern senior

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as in citizen, not as in college or high school,

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at an online fashion site founded and run by Jules

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Austen played by Anne Hathaway.

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This film is written and directed by Nancy Myers. Can

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we take a quick minute to talk about Nancy Myers

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the writer, the screenwriter. Oh my gosh, because I know

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we were off Mike and you were like I was good.

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And I'm not gonna cheat and mention that my favorite

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movie some of them are. She was the writer of

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well okay, the director.

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So I find this fascinating. On our limited nineteen eighty

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six series, Yes, we covered a film called Jumpin' Jack Flash.

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I know without me it was a sad story.

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You weren't on the you were.

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It was pre Amber.

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This is this is pre voice of the Reason. But

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here's what blows my mind. Nancy Myers wrote the screenplay

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for Jumping Jack Flash under the pseudonym Patricia Irving.

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Oh I didn't know that.

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Who's Patricia Irving? Like, I don't know now I want

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to go down a rabbit hole and find out what

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else she wrote Irving. But in addition to Jumping Jack,

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Flash and as Nancy Myers, she did write Private Benjamin,

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Baby Boom and all three Father of the Bride films.

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Did we cover your favorite one? You said, she's written

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some of your favorites.

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Well, Jumping Jack, Flash and Private Benjamin for sure.

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Yeah, even the you remember they did like a Private

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Benjamin TV show. It's like a limited Yes, she wrote

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that too. Now, when we talk about her as a director,

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she is in fact the highest grossing female director, even

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though she doesn't want to be a female director. She

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just wants to be a director. Yes, you just we

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categorize Amber carefully. I'll say it. She is the highest

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grossing female director of all time, having surpassed Penny Marshall.

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You know, she's also one of the most sought after writers, directors,

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and producers in Hollywood. So the question is why isn't

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her filmography twice as big? And I'll tell you it's

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due to the fact that she is a very detail

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oriented professional. She tends to spend a full year writing

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before going into production, and then it's typically a six

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month shoot, which she follows with an additional six months

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of editing. Because she's one of those directors that says,

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we're gonna get about twenty seven cuts of this scene.

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You know, we're gonna do twenty seven takes. We're gonna

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have lots of different camera angles. She loves she's a

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big time she's a big time editor. She loves edit

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so well.

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And I would be willing to bet as well that

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she's hands on in every aspect. She knows exactly what

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kind of flowers should be on the table, and you know,

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the color palette and everything like I.

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Would hazard a guess that the art director on the

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on her films probably isn't even allowed in the kitchen set, right,

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Probably it's probably all Nancy just go no, no, let.

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Me just she knows who this woman that she's written

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for is, and she knows exactly what.

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Her kitchen looks like. Yeah, I think I think you're right.

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Let's take a quick break, and when we come back

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we will talk about this cast. Welcome back. We are

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discussing Nancy Myer's twenty fifteen comedy The Intern. The intern

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Amber being Robert de Niro. He's playing Ben Whittaker, the

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seventy year old man who applies to become the intern

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at the you know, with this program that about the

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Fit and Anne Hathaway's company is doing. So I'm just

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gonna go ahead and say it. This might be one

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of the best Robert Denier performances I've seen.

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Oh my gosh, he's such a marshmallow. He's so sweet

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in this movie.

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He's he's the Gentleman's gentleman, right, yes, yeah, I absolutely

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love what he's doing in this movie. And and when

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I say that, I love it, I love what he's

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doing some of the callbacks to some of his other characters,

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because if you're watching this okay, so obviously you probably

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if you saw one, you saw the the obvious one.

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Right when he's looking in the mirror, he's talking in

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the mirror. Yeah, so's he's cribbing Travis Bickle there, Yes,

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you know. Also, it's not lost on me that he's

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driving her for half this movie and you know, played

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maybe the most fas taxi.

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No, I didn't even think about the fact that he

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was her driver.

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That's yeah, yeah, this is yeah, so we got a

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lot of taxi driver creeping in to his performance. And

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then eagle eyed viewers will notice he does the the

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uh raging bull the fist pump.

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Oh, that's right, he does.

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He does it twice, and I'm like, so he's just

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he's taking some of his favorite characters and just putting

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him into a little bit into Ben Whitaker here. Now.

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I absolutely love what he's doing. The video application that

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he does.

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Oh my gosh, so perfect when they say that they

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loved his his video and like everybody was crying when

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they watched it.

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Yeah, he's I don't know, there's just something about what

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he's doing here, like I want to be Robert de

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Niro in this movie. Yes, in like thirty years, Yeah obviously,

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but you.

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just the honesty and the truth that he carries his

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life with.

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Well, I think it's great the way the young guys

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in the office are taking notes from him on Yeah.

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That's why I.

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Never saw this movie because I thought it was going

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to be just kind of one joke. Yeah, of ha

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ha ha this you know, senior Citisen and with these

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young kids and he doesn't know how to use a

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phone and you know, yeah, stuff like that, And it's

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not that at all.

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It's not that at all. He's he's teaching them about

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the difference between pocket squares and handkerchiefs. He's teaching them

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on etiquette and and what women really want. And I

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love that they're all they're all eating it up right, Yes,

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they all do. So he's so coolness.

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I appreciate it for who he is. Although I do

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have to say, like the big flood in this movie

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is the conceit that like this seven year old man

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is just taking this internship because he's bored, like and

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not because he can't afford his healthcare. Like, this is

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definitely a Nancy Myers universe that we're living in, where

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everybody's got plenty of money and really nice booms.

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I'll say this though, I mean because he was he

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had a very successful career before he retired. Yes, And

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I what I love about this is my dad is

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gonna be seventy this year and he recently retired, thank you.

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He recently retired, and I see a lot and he's

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not the biggest de Niro fan, so he's not gonna

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be happy here. In this, but I see a lot

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of him in Ben. I'll say, I'll say that way, So, Daddy,

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I never got to have that, I know, I know.

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I know. I'm glad that you get to have that because.

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Yeah, he just but my dad is so busy since

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he's retired. I mean I was. I just always assume, like, well,

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when he retires, all hang out with him a whole

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lot more right, There's some truth to that. But a

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lot of times I call my dad, he's he's in

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the middle of something or he's busy, you know, he's

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got stuff going on, and he's it's a lot like

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you know, Ben, you know, the beginning of this movie,

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I'm seeing my dad because Ben's like, I retired, and

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then I should need to keep busy. So I started

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doing this, and I did this, and I learned this,

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and I learned a Mandarin.

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And I how he talks about that he traveled, and

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he travels, you know, learned how to play it with

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what pink pe knuckle or.

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Something a knuckle. Yeah, he's doing tai chi in the park.

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But at the end of the day, he just wants

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to belong. He wants to be, Like he says in

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his video. He wants to be needed. Yes, So the

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idea that he's going into this internship not because he

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needs the money, just he wants to feel useful, you know.

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And and I do appreciate the fact that Anne Hathaway.

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At first she's like, I don't need this guy around here.

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I'll call him if I need him, And then she

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picks up on the back that he's just all over

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the office helping people and teaching and mentoring like the

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young guys. Yes, so I hear what you're saying, but

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I will say there's a little bit of truth to it,

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even if we're in even if we're outside the Nancy

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Meyers universe. Yes, what he's doing, what who he is,

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who Ben Whittaker is is is very real to me.

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And I love it. I absolutely love it. Tell you

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who else I love? And Hathaway as a Jules Austen.

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She's the owner of this online fashion company about the fit.

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Have we ever seen Anne Hathaway and not loved her?

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I'm thinking back, I just I can't think of.

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Anywhere it's funny because her in real life, like when

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she does interviews or anything like absolutely like fingernauts on

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a chalkboard, to me, you're getting her in movies.

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I love.

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Just focus on the work. But I think this is

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the most competent character she's ever played. She's usually at

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least got some kind of learning curve where she's bumbling

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or tripping or falling or learning or something, and in

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this she is every every bit the you know, very together,

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very knows what she wants, and she's struggling with people

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telling her, well, but you're a woman executive, so maybe

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you don't really know what you're doing.

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Yeah. Kind of a weird situation. The plot of this

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movie where her advisors are like basically saying, look, it's

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too big, too fast. It could capsize if you don't

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get an experienced CEO to help you run this company,

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which is code for find an older man he knows

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how to run a business, and I'll be.

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The ending like, was not where I thought we were

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going to end up. I was surprised put a.

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Pin in that ending because I got thoughts, I got,

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I got I got feelings a couple what Uh I

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lost my train of thought because we got said the

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ending and I was just like the ending, I'm sorry, No,

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that's okay, that's okay. Uh, But Yeah, the.

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Idea that you know, she herself needs a mentor.

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Yeah, and that's okay, I'm back on track with.

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That after she's already become so successful.

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What I was looking for in this movie, scratch that,

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what I was expecting. There's a couple of tropes I

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was I was expecting in this movie, and thank you

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Nancy for not doing any of them. But I did

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expect her at some point to become kind of like

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a hurt, whiny type of individual at some point who

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needed DeNiro to protect her well.

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Or to mess up or something. You can see, Yeah,

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she really doesn't. She's not really got all these plates spinning.

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She's Yeah. And later, later I want to talk about

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who who had the role for Anne Hathaway, and I

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think we would have seen a lot more of a

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whiney helped me, you know, type of type of character developed.

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So I'm glad. I'm I think I think Ane Hathaway

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is just lights out here. She's strong, she's she's charming,

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you know, I mean, you fall in love with her

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in every scene she's in because, let's be honest, this

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is the person that you want to work for. She

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has this The whole thing with her office is set

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up to if.

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My office was like that, I would not be working

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from home.

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Everyone's yeah, everyone's on the same floor because we all

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want to be working together. We want to be together.

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Oh look, there's our CEO right now. She's at that

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desk talking to that person. She's not happy with the

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way the packaging is, so she goes to the warehouse

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and does like like a little workshop with the workforce.

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There are like, hey, let's fold it like this, and

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let's make it look like this, like I look like

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you would want to.

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Have that scene where she had it delivered to her

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house to see what it look like when it arrived.

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Oh yeah.

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I was like, oh my no, that's such a great idea.

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How many CEOs watched that part and we're like, holy shit,

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that's a good idea. I'm going to do that. I mean,

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just to undercover boss your own company. You know, she's

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amazing and she's not alone. When Renee Russo walks into the.

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Scene, okay she walked in, I started laughing and I

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was like, and here's where Jeff starts paying attention and

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loves this movie all the way to the end. It

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has now become a worthwhile endeavor.

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Oh, I'm telling you what. The day the day that

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we sell this show to some network and then we're

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in we're in offices, there will be an in house

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masuse and if we're lucky, it'll be Rene Russo does

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this woman did she just decide that she's not gonna age? Ever?

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She's I, yess so, because I knockout. I would bet

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all the money in my pockets against all the money

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in your pockets that she has not had work done.

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She just loves there's no way she's having like the.

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Same person, just aging gracefully and completely amazing.

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Yeah, and I love It's not even it's not even

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a subplot really, but the idea that her and de

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Niro start dating kind of off to the side of

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the movie. You know, it's just it's it's it's just great,

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you know. And her ability to just understand that things happen,

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like when he has to work late or someone died

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and he has to go to funeral. She's go, all right,

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let's go to a funeral. She just rolls with it.

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I dig I dig that about her. She is so

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great And this be as a Fiona, I know we're

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gonna don't want to step on notable scenes. But we're

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gonna get to one that involves her. Oh, I know

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your laugh. You already know what I'm talking about. But yeah,

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moving on with this cast uh Adam Divine as Jason

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and Zach Pearlman as Davis. There there are two of

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the young men that are starting to fall over Robert

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de Niro and yes take their lead from him and

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get take advice from him on women and fashion and

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everything else in between. I think they're fantastic. I mean

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they're fun. Especially Zach Peerlman as Davis.

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Oh my gosh, he's so cute.

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He just he just needs to be adopted.

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He does. He just needs somebody to like manage him.

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God, what do you think of these guys? Tell me

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about these guys.

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Adam Divine. I was surprised because it seems to me,

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I don't know what I saw him in where he

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was like kind of a jerk or kind of smarmy

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or not trustworthy or something, but that's what I was anticipating.

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And he was such a nice guy.

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He was a great he was cool.

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I mean, he can't handle that girl that he's trying to,

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you know, date in the office, but so he's lot

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of boys.

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He is, Yeah, he is. Do you ever watch a

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show called The Righteous Gemstones on maxh No, Well you

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are missing out because it's awesome. It's hilarious. It's John Goodman,

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Adam Divine and of course Danny McBride. Uh. They're like

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a family that's like in charge of like the megachurch

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or like Televangelists. It's ridiculous, it's absurd and it's awesome.

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You should check that one out. It's on Max. I

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think they're in their fifth and final season right now.

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But if you were thinking, if you haven't seen that,

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and you're thinking, Adam Divine kind of a jerk? Did

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you ever watch a show called Workaholics?

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Nop?

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Okay?

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Well, Clam said he was in Was he in Pitch Perfect? Oh?

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Yeah, he was like the.

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Was he a jerk in that? Maybe that's he was

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like the what.

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Are they called the Bella's. Yeah, the the the guys

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that are like the I don't know.

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Like the the boy band version.

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The boy band. Yeah, he's like the leader of that's

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probably what you're thinking. Okay, But he did a he

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did a show on Comedy Central called Workaholics where him

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and Anders Holme, who is also in this movie Andre's

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Home playing uh Anne Hathaway's husband. Matt will get to them,

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and there's a third guy who looks a hell of

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a lot like a young weird Al Yankovic. Basically, it

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was like it was them working like a cubicle office cubicle.

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It felt like a knockoff of office Space, but still

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was funny on its own. But I digress.

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I don't know what it is about him that I

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thought he was gonna be a jerk, but he was.

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It was probably it was probably a pitch perfect then yep,

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I saw. I saw one of those movies and he was.

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He was kind of a jerk. Andrew's Home. We just

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mentioned him. He's playing. He's playing Matt Jule's husband. Let's

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tay something right now. And look, it's been out for

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ten years, so I'm not worried about spoilers, So I'm

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just gonna speak my piece about this guy, the character

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that is from the get go, I'm already pissed at

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him because I don't want to live in a world

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where some dowe neckbeard guy gets to be the house cat.

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You know, he's kept he's the stay at home dad.

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To someone that looks like Anne Hathaway and has Ann

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Hathaway's fortune. That's just bullshit. I'm not I know.

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We we were discussing. We watched it again over dinner,

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and we were discussing, like this moron totally married up.

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Yeah, he's like walking around looking like you.

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Yeah, gonna cheat on Anne Hathaway.

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Like and my brain, well, my brain is like, ah,

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you know, give him a chance. And then she comes

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home and she's like, hey, she gets all snugly and

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wants a little something something when they're in bed, and

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he's like, I'm too tired, We'll do it tomorrow. I'm like,

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what are you out of your mind? I don't care

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how tired you are. Amber. It's Anne Hathaway. It's a

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woman that looks like Anne Hathaway. That's that's another. You know,

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if I had a brown flag, I'd throw the bullshit

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flag on that one too. No chance. I once I was.

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I was once at one hundred and two fever and

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my girlfriend, that girlfriend took offense when I wheezed that

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I probably couldn't and when she got a little upset,

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I I clocked in what had to be done. That's right.

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So that's a bullshit scene right there where he's like, oh,

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that's up too tired, Let's wait for tomorrow. I'm like, right, like,

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you're gonna let Anne Hathaway go to sleep unfulfilled. But

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come on, no chance. The guy sucks like the character

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Matt Well.

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And I'm so sick of hearing about how he was

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the bread winner and he gave up his career to

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be a stay at home dad, which is, you know,

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such a less endeavor.

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Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna go. Yeah, we're jumping into

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these seas were.

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I know we can't handle it.

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I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what.

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That's how much of a jerk this guy is.

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Let's let's get to him. I'll just tell you this

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because there's not movies like this don't have like a

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bunch of background production notes and that kind of stuff.

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But I will tell you this Amber if you didn't

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know this, uh, listeners might not know this, but this

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movie originally was set up at Paramount Pictures with Tina

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Fey and Michael Caine in the lead roles. I think

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about that. Think about that movie for a quick second.

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Does that work?

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It's not this movie?

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No, I think maybe you get away with Michael Kane,

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but Tina Fey because Michael.

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Kane can be he could be sweet fluffy, you know,

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he could be Ben Whittaker.

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Yeah, she's not Jules Austin, no, if any, if anything,

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she's like one of the advisors to Jules Austin. That's

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telling her what she's like.

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She would be like Jules's boss. Like she's like the

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Miranda Priestley character and Devil wears Pradac. There you go,

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like Tina Feye does not take any shit.

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Yeah. Well, eventually this movie finds its way to Warner Brothers,

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where Faye is replaced by Reese Witherspoon. Now earlier, when

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I sang, I expected Jules Austin to have like a

476
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:38.880
cry or a whiny breakdown, a need to be rescued,

477
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.359
like Reese Witherspoon would have done that all over. This

478
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.039
movie may maybe come on.

479
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:46.680
I don't know. I feel like you need to watch

480
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:47.640
Legally Blonde again.

481
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:50.519
I've never watched Legally Blonde.

482
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:57.839
Jeffrey, Jeff just not Jeff.

483
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:00.000
You keep saying you can't just repeat my name of it.

484
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:06.519
You go, oh a good point. Ember sixteen, jeffs later

485
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:13.640
you're right. I come on, I think you fantastic.

486
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:19.160
Pleasantly amazed at how strong she is in that movie.

487
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:24.000
All right, we've talked about her before. You know, she

488
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.599
was Tracy Flick in Election, which you hated.

489
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.680
Yeah, well, watch Legally Blond and you'll be like, oh, well,

490
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:32.759
I can see why she hated her in this other one.

491
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.839
All right. Well, at any rate, she leaves the film

492
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.720
due to scheduling conflicts, and a month later, exactly a

493
00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:44.119
month later, in Hathaway is in final negotiations to take

494
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.480
the role. And I'm happy about that because I truly

495
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.880
think this is this might be my new favorite in

496
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.960
Hathaway performance. Maybe lim Is I don't know.

497
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.920
What ew No, I don't know. I devile worst Pride.

498
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:00.920
I was well, I just you know lim Is, It's French.

499
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:02.039
I was just trying to get points.

500
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:02.960
Mm hmm.

501
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:09.640
I've seen, I've seen, I've seen, I have seen. I

502
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:11.839
haven't seen her. I haven't seen her version.

503
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:17.480
Don't save yourself. Run. Don't ever suggest.

504
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:18.359
Yourself that I won't.

505
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.200
I won't go watch The Double Worst Priday again.

506
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:26.519
Let's talk about some noteworthy scenes. Maybe we'll talk about

507
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.519
the pivotal moment we're definitely going to talk about the favorite.

508
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.359
Moment, your favorite moment.

509
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.559
No, it's it's a different one. It's a different scene,

510
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.680
I promise you. So let's start with this one. Jewels

511
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.440
being told she can't run her own company. My heart's

512
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:46.400
breaking for in this moment because the way she has

513
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:51.200
to have this this tough exterior, and she's not like sobbing,

514
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:56.240
but she's crying. And then Danira walks in to get

515
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.759
her jacket and you can and then she's embarrassed that

516
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:01.920
he he's seeing her cry and he's seeing her vulnerable.

517
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.920
I just I love the way she's she's handling herself,

518
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.160
but more so, I love the way he's handling the situation.

519
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.559
You know, quiet, head down, not paying it, he knows

520
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:18.160
what's going on, but he's trying to be invisible basically

521
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.440
until she notices him there. I don't know, what do

522
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.160
you think of this scene?

523
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.799
He really kind of embraces the role of intern, where

524
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.400
he's not trying to overstep his bounds. He's not trying

525
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.359
to be more than he is. He's trying to fit

526
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.400
that job description the best that he can. And I

527
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:42.319
love that the way the scene is written, it's just

528
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.720
speaks to the truth of you know, if it were

529
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.400
a man getting this news and he got mad and

530
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.680
like slammed his fist down on the table, you know,

531
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.279
he might be embarrassed that somebody walked in on that,

532
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.720
but there wouldn't be anything wrong with it. Where a

533
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:02.279
woman gets this news and needs an emotional release and

534
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.720
it comes in the form of getting choked up and

535
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:08.640
starting to cry a little bit. She doesn't break apart,

536
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.279
doesn't you know, going to hysterics or anything. She just

537
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.759
gets choked up and needs a minute. And but that's

538
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.160
not okay because you're a woman and you're two emotional.

539
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.160
So she's she's doing hide that.

540
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:21.799
Oh, you know, we gotta give her credit. She's doing

541
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.880
the hero cry. She's still composed and talking and just

542
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:28.079
like the the tears are coming out of the eyes without.

543
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:32.000
Her like it's just frustration, you know, yeah.

544
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.519
Well being told, you know, and just that moment, you know,

545
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:39.079
it's it's it's the one moment where I almost feel

546
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:43.640
like she submits when she kind of hopefully just says,

547
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.480
can you give me CEO lessons? Like, you know, because

548
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.519
it's not a thing, and you know, the dipshit guys

549
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.599
like you need help blah blah blah. You know, I'm like,

550
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:55.960
shut up. I don't know.

551
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.799
I wonder who that directive was coming from. It. What's

552
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.119
it really coming from? Andrew Rynol, it was coming from

553
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:05.400
like maybe investors or something.

554
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.359
It's gotta be it's gotta be like maybe it's a

555
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:13.720
situation where uh, you know, company opens up. You know,

556
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.680
now there's investors or stockholders. I don't know, they don't

557
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:18.960
really go into it. I don't think they need to.

558
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:21.799
But all right, I know this cry and stuff. Let's

559
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:27.759
let's move to a a different kind of emotional reaction. Uh,

560
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:33.279
Renee Russo as the the house massuse comes over and

561
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.799
gives been a complimentary massage as a you know, because

562
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:38.359
he's you know, he did a great job getting the

563
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:40.680
stain out of the jacket or whatever it was. Yes,

564
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:42.640
that's sceneus hilarious.

565
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.119
I The fist bump at the end is what really

566
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:46.640
sells it.

567
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:54.480
Yes, yeah, I'll be careful here, so de Niro, you know,

568
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.880
let's be fair, like his character probably not familiar with

569
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:03.400
a female touch in in several years since his wife's passing.

570
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.640
Renee Russo walks over, looking like Renee Russo, and she

571
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:11.519
starts giving him this shoulder massage and then slides her

572
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:13.440
hands down his back and then kind of gets into

573
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.599
his hips a little bit, and how's that going? And

574
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.440
then that's when the other guys are like noticing something

575
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.640
something going, only.

576
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:22.079
Pass him a newspaper.

577
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.640
That's see, that's that's that's your du that's your bro

578
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:29.119
looking out for you. Right, yeah, thank you.

579
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:30.759
They didn't make fun of him.

580
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:31.880
They didn't know.

581
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:36.119
This was not a slapstick moment. It was like, this

582
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.960
is a real reaction that every man watching this scene

583
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:40.119
is probably.

584
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:49.359
I'm not going to talk about moving on or moving on. Yeah,

585
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.279
but that fist just like Ragiel bull Ye.

586
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.319
She walks away and the two guys on either side

587
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:56.400
give him a fist bump.

588
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:59.119
Like, yeah, what's up? How about how about the reveal

589
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.519
that Ben's factory, where he built a career for himself

590
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:09.559
was in fact the current residence of about that fit.

591
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.960
I thought the way that it was written and the

592
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.840
way he delivered it was so beautiful, the way he

593
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:19.840
just described the layout and this is where my office

594
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:20.360
used to be.

595
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.199
And I'm gonna call this, I mean, this is definitely

596
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:27.719
probably the most heartwarming moment of the film. I'm gonna

597
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:31.239
call this as the pivotal moment because I think this

598
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:33.800
is really the real reason why he took the job,

599
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.760
because he talks about how he knows everything about this building.

600
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:41.079
You know. He tells her about the oaks in the

601
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:42.880
back courtyard and she said, oh, yeah, I love those.

602
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.119
He's like I was, I remember the day they planted him.

603
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.719
You know, he has all the history with this building.

604
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:52.519
I think I think it's the characters. It's one thing

605
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.320
for him to lose his wife, but if he loses

606
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:57.519
his wife and he loses this piece of his life also,

607
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.880
then really who is he? You know? So I love

608
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:03.480
that moment where she's and she's just soaking it all up,

609
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:05.440
you know, and loving every second of it.

610
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:09.159
Yeah, she's she's kind of taken the first little steps

611
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:14.039
towards appreciating the work that he's been doing, which isn't

612
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:18.000
a lot because she hasn't been given him anything, but

613
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:22.199
just appreciating what he's kind of standing for being there,

614
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.119
and then starting to appreciate him as a person as

615
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.480
he tells the story is yeah, really nice.

616
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.360
Well, now they're bonding right like she wants him there.

617
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:35.519
We talking about my favorite scene. I think the funniest

618
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.039
scene the Ocean's eleven scene.

619
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:40.880
Oh my gosh. When they said that in the car,

620
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:41.840
I lost it.

621
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:43.880
Did you pick up on the fact that that's the

622
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:51.199
music from Oceans eleven? That's genius, It's so good. Poor Davis. Wait,

623
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.119
how come I'm the how come I'm affleck brother? How

624
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:59.280
come on? I think you? I think you answered that yourself. Yeah,

625
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.440
breaking in the doing a favor for jewels. She she

626
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:04.239
does something probably a lot of us have done before,

627
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:06.360
where you send the wrong text, the wrong email to

628
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:07.400
the wrong person.

629
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:09.679
Minute that happened, I was like, oh my.

630
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:11.719
He Well when she put the phone down for a

631
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.000
second and then she's picked she's juggling phones, You're like,

632
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.920
her mom's going to get that. Yeah, that's absolutely Did

633
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:19.880
you pick up on the on the voice of the mom?

634
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:24.760
Do you recognize that voice? That that raspy yet inviting voice.

635
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:29.039
It felt familiar, And I think I was distracted because

636
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:31.920
I kept waiting for like her to arrive, and then

637
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:33.039
she never did.

638
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:35.920
Are you a fan of the Big Chill?

639
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:37.639
Yeah?

640
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.159
That was that her mom. The voice of her mom

641
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:40.800
is Mary Kay Place.

642
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.400
I was gonna say, was that Mary Kay Place?

643
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:46.519
Oh gosh, I want to believe after after I figured

644
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:48.840
that out, I just want to believe that Anne Hathaway's

645
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:53.039
dad is probably Kevin Klein. Yes, only only the families,

646
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:57.320
not to get exactly that's that. Yeah, yeah, big Chill

647
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:02.199
equals the intern with Anne Hathaway. Now this, this whole

648
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:04.719
thing breaks them breaking into the mom's house to get

649
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:08.400
the laptop to stop the email. It's just comedy gold

650
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.199
and it's it shouldn't work in this film, because it should.

651
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.559
It should feel a little too slapsticky and a little

652
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:19.760
too over the Yeah it is, but it works. It's

653
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:23.199
so it's so much fun. I was when Adam Devine

654
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.320
is in the car, uh doing the whole bust the bust.

655
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.800
I think it's bust of rhymes he's he's doing and

656
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.679
he's got his eyes shut and he's just you know,

657
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.280
and they're all like frantically banging on the door to

658
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.519
get in because the cops are coming. Davis jumps off

659
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.960
open the fucking door on the top of the hood.

660
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:43.880
I lost it in that scene. It was so funny.

661
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.679
Uh yeah, if we if we didn't have a pivotal

662
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:49.239
moment in this it was gonna be your favorite moment.

663
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.159
And that would have been my favorite moment for sure.

664
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.519
And I like that it also sets up the bar

665
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:58.280
scene where she kind of takes him out to do shots. Yes,

666
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:02.400
and and uh, it's a funny moment because it's kind

667
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:04.039
of it's a little meta because she has that that

668
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.320
great line. I know that it's it's an Amber Lewis

669
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.159
line that she says where she's like, what how did

670
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.880
guys in one generation go from Jack Nicholson and Harrison

671
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:20.320
Ford to and like she kind of looks at them. Yeah,

672
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.679
because I mean there's there's there's some truth to that,

673
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:25.440
like she because she's talking like, you know, guys used

674
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.880
to be gentlemen and we used to use the word gentleman,

675
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:31.719
and guys used to be tough, and now they dress

676
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:34.000
like kids and they play video games and like these

677
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:35.599
guys are just kind of not like yeah, that's and

678
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.679
I was thinking, like that is so many people I

679
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:43.719
know it's yeah, well I know, but.

680
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:48.480
There is truth to I do love this. Uh it

681
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:50.639
kind of takes place through the whole movie, but the

682
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.920
I think it's Lewis that is gonna go to jay

683
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.480
Z's house, Yeah, and engineers like you got to change

684
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.599
your shirt, Like why don't people ever tal their shirts

685
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.000
in and he notices his breath and everything. And so

686
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:05.880
from the beginning of the movie, he starts out in

687
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.159
like a T shirt and sweatpants, and by the end

688
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:10.920
of the movie, he's got like a nice shirt, it's

689
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.679
tucked in, He's got the breachcase he gets.

690
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.199
He finds the nineteen seventy three vintage briefcase on the

691
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:18.760
eBay and then like Davis is like wearing a tie.

692
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.760
He's like, actually, it's it's pens tie. He gave it

693
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.679
to me. Yeah, but they're they're they're trying to emulate him.

694
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:27.119
But I think it's funny. It is meta that that

695
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.159
bar scene's meta because she mentions Jack Nicholson and Harrison Ford,

696
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.079
and they were up for the nero's role. You know,

697
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.960
Nicholson is someone that Nancy Myers has worked with several times,

698
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.480
so they just kind of threw it in there as

699
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:44.719
a fun little jat's funny. Yeah, how about the hotel talk.

700
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:46.920
I was nervous about this scene.

701
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.559
I yeah, I was a little. I wish they could

702
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:51.159
have staged it differently.

703
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.159
I feel like, I mean, I get the the you

704
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:59.000
know how ironic there's a there's smoke detector goes off.

705
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.400
We're all outside of the row, and then you know,

706
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:03.599
she's like, and he's the gentleman, so he's gonna walk

707
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:06.280
her back to her room. And at this point, you know,

708
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.079
Matt's cheating, you know, her doey neck beard husband's cheating

709
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:11.960
on her. Yeah, and then she's like, oh, do you

710
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:14.320
want to come in? And I was just like warning

711
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.480
went off. I was like, don't make a move on

712
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.639
de Niro, don't ruin this movie, yeah, cause you know,

713
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:24.199
and I'm like, I'm totally fine with DeNiro. I know

714
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:27.000
he's safe because he's got Renee Russo at home. But

715
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.559
you know, and then she's like, oh, you know, I

716
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.559
know you're tired. You can lay you can lay down

717
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:35.840
the bed, and you could see he's so uncomfortable doing it,

718
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:37.519
and she's like, I'll get on the chair. And then

719
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:38.960
she doesn't get on the chair, and he even says

720
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:40.360
like I thought you're getting on the chair. She's like, well,

721
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:41.639
I really want to lay down to and I was like,

722
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:46.280
don't do this. But then they have a nice conversation.

723
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.480
You know, they break into the hotel bar, the mini bar.

724
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.800
You know, I just feel like, you know, she probably

725
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.000
had a suite, so that means there's a living room.

726
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:58.760
They could have been like casual on the couch.

727
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.320
Yeah, I don't know, it was it was a little

728
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.119
bit of an alarm like I'm glad, you know, it ends.

729
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:07.679
Like they're not girlfriends. It's not.

730
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:11.800
Yeah, you know, look, there's there's only three ways that goes. Like,

731
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:14.960
you know, it's like your your your girlfriend's their to

732
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:19.360
comfort you as you talk about your marriage being you know, shitty,

733
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:25.519
and he's not that. Or it's the something's gonna happen,

734
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:28.679
you know, someone's gonna make a move on someone and

735
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:31.039
you you don't want that to happen, and thankfully doesn't.

736
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:34.440
And then the last one is like her just needing

737
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.880
like a father figure. And I guess that's sort of

738
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:40.000
how it played in a way, but not really because

739
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:43.119
she talks about him being her best friend. So the

740
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:43.880
scene just felt a.

741
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:46.599
Little Yeah, it was a little weird, a.

742
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:49.599
Little a little strange, but uh, I don't know.

743
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:53.639
I think she just wanted to show how comfortable and

744
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:57.480
Hathaway has become from not wanting him to have the

745
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.639
job at all and multiple times trying to talk him

746
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.039
out of it or saying she wants some transferred to. Okay,

747
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:08.360
now we're in each other's you know, kind of physical space.

748
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:10.639
We're like that kind of friendship.

749
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:15.639
Yeah, so all right, well I'll tell you. Yeah, it

750
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.679
was a little weird, but let's take let's take one

751
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:19.599
last break, and when we come back, we'll start wrapping

752
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:29.400
things up. Okay, Amber, So, if someone was unfamiliar with

753
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:33.320
Nancy Myers and they saw The Intern and they loved it,

754
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:39.079
what three films would you then suggest they watch Nancy

755
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.800
Myers films that is, don't start breaking rules on.

756
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:47.000
Me, and only the ones she directed. It was actually

757
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.480
quite an easy list to make.

758
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:50.360
Okay.

759
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:54.800
First of all, the Parent Trap remake like remakes are

760
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.760
very difficult to get right, and remakes of a classic

761
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:02.280
are even more are difficult to get right. And this

762
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:07.440
movie is so charming and so adorable, and Natasha Richardson

763
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:12.079
is just luminescent. So I would say start with that one.

764
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.000
I would say, correct, I would say go back to

765
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.000
nineteen sixty eight, watch the original with Haley Mills, because

766
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:20.239
it's far superior.

767
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:27.559
I think they are I think they are equal, and

768
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:29.840
I grew up with the Hayley Mills one. So that's

769
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:33.519
hard to say, but the remake is charming.

770
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.079
All right, all right, I'm blowing up low Ham. Come on,

771
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:39.239
what else?

772
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:41.119
Then? You're going to watch The Holiday?

773
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:47.400
No? Yes, okay, why are we watching the Holiday?

774
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.800
You're watching The Holiday because, first of all, Kate Winslet's

775
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.599
in it, so that's a no brainer.

776
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.360
Okay talking to Jeff Johnson not Dayton Johnson. By the way,

777
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:03.639
you can't just say Kate Winslet and me go okay, I.

778
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.960
Do have to admit you watch this movie. Jack Black

779
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:11.679
in this movie is my brother Sam. They are very,

780
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:15.400
very similar, and so that just pulls at my heart

781
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.400
a little bit. Sexy. Jude Law. I mean, I don't

782
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.800
even really like Cameron Diaz, but her storyline with jud

783
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:28.360
Law is amazing. Kate Winslet's cottage, Cameron Diaz his house.

784
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.719
Like, do you do you want me to believe though,

785
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:33.159
that Jack Black is going to end up with Cameron Diaz.

786
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:35.960
Jack Black does not end up with Cameron Diaz. He

787
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.760
ends up with Kate Winslet Law end up together.

788
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:41.880
Do you want me to believe that Jack Black?

789
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:43.719
You want me to believe that you saw this movie

790
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.639
when I can tell that you have not watched this movie.

791
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.119
In your life. I've seen it. I've not seen it.

792
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:49.400
Shut up.

793
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:56.320
It's Christmas movie? All right, yes, maybe Christmas time.

794
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:01.559
It's it's awesome. Okay, Well how she got and then

795
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:08.840
my recently discovered new favorite, It's complicated with Meryl Streep

796
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:09.840
and Steve Martin.

797
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:14.199
All Right, the woman directed eight movies, and I'm you're

798
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:16.599
we're going down your list. I'm like, you're not picking

799
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.000
any of the ones that I'm picking else as possible,

800
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:20.320
but complicated.

801
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.039
Honestly, you could pick any of them.

802
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:26.800
I think I've got three you can pick. Well, let's share.

803
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.519
My list is the correct list, but you can do.

804
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.719
You haven't heard my list. Okay, so my list, let's

805
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.400
let's share. It's complicated.

806
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:38.280
Uh is that not so charming?

807
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.360
Oh my god, it's great. I do, I do.

808
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:43.920
It's absorable. John Krasinski is hilarious.

809
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:48.840
You're aware that Streep attended Vassar College, right? Did you

810
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:52.880
know that? Yes, two of her children go there. She's

811
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:56.480
on the board of trustees, so you know in the

812
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.760
movie without the graduation scenes, guess where they were filmed?

813
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:00.679
Oh not?

814
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.079
Vasser refused.

815
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:08.280
They said, I didn't think anybody said no to Meryl.

816
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.760
They the board listens to to a film by podcast.

817
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.719
They heard they heard us at some point, they heard you,

818
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:19.920
they heard me, and they're like, yeah, we're with those two.

819
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:23.280
I don't know everything she does. I have to draw

820
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:23.679
a line.

821
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:28.119
No, well, she's got two awesome movies. But we'll talk

822
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.960
about them later. All right. So I've got it's complicated,

823
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:36.519
I've got I'm gonna do it what women want?

824
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:42.960
No ship, Oh god, did.

825
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.119
You know that this movie originally was gonna have Tim

826
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.159
Allen as the main guy? Would that have been better?

827
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:49.599
Or you're on their asshole?

828
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:52.599
What do you mean?

829
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:57.920
Although I have to say I have to confess I

830
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.400
quote this movie once a day.

831
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:02.519
Okay, what's what's the goo?

832
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:07.519
The scene when he first realizes that he's got this

833
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.880
ability to hear women's thoughts and he's going through the

834
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:13.400
park and that poodle is jumping up and down, goes

835
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:19.679
miss shiit, I need to poop every day? When my

836
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:20.920
dog is scratching at the door.

837
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:24.360
Did you know that mel when he waxes his legs

838
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:25.440
in that scene, that's real?

839
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:30.000
Well it's just a fraction of the pain that man deserves.

840
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:33.039
But whatever, I'm gonna sell you this just because I

841
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:36.639
know it's gonna get rise you. Uh, he allegedly taunted

842
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:41.400
women on set. I have come on. This doesn't hurt

843
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:43.280
at all because you know he had to do. He

844
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:47.679
had to do several takes. No doubt waxing hurts Amber.

845
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:48.880
I'll take.

846
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:51.000
His childbirth.

847
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:55.280
I don't know about that. All right. I got one

848
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.719
more for you, because I love I love Jack two

849
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:02.239
thousand and three. Something's got to give, I do.

850
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.719
I almost picked that one. He's Jack, but.

851
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:09.480
He's almost playing the character that he is Gavin the

852
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.840
Astronaut in terms of endearment. He's like kind of like

853
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.599
the Playboy. And this has got Jack Nicholson and Kanu

854
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.800
reeves like, sign me up, like I'm there, you know, yep.

855
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:24.840
I almost picked this one and I hadn't seen It's complicated,

856
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.159
and Prime kept throwing it in my face. I finally

857
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.039
gave in and watched it, and it has Steve Martin,

858
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:32.559
so it won.

859
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:35.039
Yeah. I mean, well, he's another one. He works. He

860
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.320
works with Nancy Myers quite a bit, and I'm glad

861
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:40.280
like she's She's one of those directors that likes to

862
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:45.280
have the same tight group you know that she relies on,

863
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.920
you know, But it's the same three or four actors,

864
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.880
actresses she's always gonna work with. I dig that about her.

865
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:56.360
Obviously we recommend the intern right, yes, first time watch

866
00:48:56.440 --> 00:49:02.239
this one. Absolutely fantastic film. Just fantas might be a

867
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.079
top five Denia performance, definitely a top ten.

868
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.119
Dennero perform, definitely a top ten.

869
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:08.960
Definitely top ten. I don't know, I'd have to think

870
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:09.559
about the top It.

871
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.800
Depends on what kind of Denera you want. Like, that's

872
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.760
the great thing about the longevity of his career. You

873
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:20.960
can kind of, you know, pick this later kind of comedy,

874
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.840
romance kind of guy, or I have an edgy, intense

875
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:26.360
kind of guy.

876
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.239
I'll be honest, I've not been a fan of the

877
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:32.159
Twilight years of de Niro.

878
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:33.719
It's hit or miss.

879
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:35.440
It's hit or miss. He's got that new one, Alter

880
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.719
Knight's coming out where he's playing two characters that aren't

881
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:41.000
related to each other, which I think is kind of strange.

882
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.000
Have you seen the trailer for that one? No, it's

883
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.480
like a thirties, nineteen thirties, nineteen forties gangster movie.

884
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:48.280
Thing's interesting.

885
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:51.599
Shock, But he's playing he's playing one of the gangsters,

886
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:56.039
So I mean, yeah, what are you gonna do. Listeners,

887
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.760
what do you think of the intern? Have you seen

888
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:01.880
this one? Is it one of deniers better performances? Let

889
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.760
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890
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.639
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891
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:12.760
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892
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.039
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893
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.719
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894
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:21.559
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895
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.760
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896
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:28.920
by swag Amber. I feel like it's almost time for

897
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.280
you to set up a cot in the back night.

898
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:33.360
Give you a key. You've you've been pretty busy with us,

899
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:36.519
but I thank you for all the work you've been

900
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:40.360
doing with us, because we've talked about some great stuff

901
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.880
so far, you know Black Swan and the Gene Hackman

902
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.800
Top ten, and I know we've got some more fantastic

903
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:49.480
stuff with you coming up later this month.

904
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.159
So thank you, yes, thank you, very exciting.

905
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.159
And to all of you listening to the show, following

906
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.760
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907
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.679
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