Oppenheimer Review
Jeff Johnson recruits the host of the Docking Bay 77 Podcast, Dayton Johnson, to get the necessary clearance for seeing Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer and offer their SPOILER-FREE findings!
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You get more out of life when
you go out to a movie. I
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know. I'm with Patrol. Hello
everybody, and welcome back to the box
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office. I'm Jeff Johnson. David
Burns is on assignment joining me in his
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place. Dayton Johnson from the Docking
Base seventy seven podcast. Hello and hello
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in that thanks for having me on. I appreciate it, man, absolutely,
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Man, it is the biggest box
office weekend we've had, probably since
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the last Avengers movie. Talking about
the probably talking about the Barbenheimer event and
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Dayton, let's uh, if you're
ready, I don't think we need to
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countdown. Let's discuss Oppenheimer, the
atomic bomb. We can end this war.
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To my start a chain reaction.
It's full ignite atmosphere from Christopher Nolan
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everything. There's a chance that when
we push that button we destroy the world.
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Blot Robert Downey, Junior, Matt
Damon, Emily Blunt, Florence Pugh,
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and Phillian Murphy is open Nheimer in
theaters July twenty first, Ready to
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r Okay, let's get into this. We just heard that that promo mentioned
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just several names of this all star
cast. Let's talk. Let's talk about
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this cast a little bit, Dadon, sure. I mean, you know
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with in the movies like this,
with the cast, I mean, you
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have so many big names you have
you know, Matt Damon, of course,
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you have Killian Murphy, Emily Blunt, and it's a massive cast.
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It's huge, I mean, and
it's not just a bunch of extras.
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There's a lot of speaking parts and
you know it, and there's some surprises,
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especially towards the end. I won't
I won't drop the name because you
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know, I mean, they can
find out IMDb. But it was we
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had to see it, and I'm
for us, right, Yeah, it
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was a nice surprise. Yeah,
I'll tell you what. Let's we know.
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Let let's talk about Killey Murphy for
a second. Yes, hauntingly similar
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in appearance to the actual Jay Robert
Oppenheimer. Would you not? Would you
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not agree? Yeah, they did
a really good job making him, you
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know, doing They didn't have to
do a lot because he does have some
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similar features. But yeah, he
really uh not only looks apart, but
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embraced that part and it comes across
very well on the screen. He looks
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amazing and he does a fantastic job. Yeah. Oh yeah, and I
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believe he lost a significant amount of
weight to play the role. Right.
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I heard Emily Blunt on an interview
saying that he lived off of cigarettes and
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almonds for a couple couple of months. But that doesn't sound healthy to me.
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No, but hey, you know, you suffer for your work,
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right. Uh, He's he's amazing
in this movie. I mean, every
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time he speaks, you can't take
your eyes off him. Oh yeah,
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Oh yeah, I mean and then, uh, you know, we have
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a private Ryan is now a colonel. You know, Matt Damon shows up,
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you know, looking looking a little
older, but definitely looking the part
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of aging colonel for sure. But
yeah, he was great too. He
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definitely brought it. I gotta tell
you. I don't know if you've seen
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it. Nineteen eighty nine, a
movie called Fat Man and Little Boy.
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No, it's basically so basically,
Oppenheimer is like the expanded director's a cut
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edition of that movie. It's it's
a fantastic movie. It's all about making
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it's all about the Manhattan Project.
Paul Newman plays the role that Matt Damon
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plays in this in this movie,
and I love Matt Damon in it.
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I mean, I couldn't get it
off of his character, and maybe that's
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I went into I watched Fatman a
Little Boy for the first time a couple
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couple a couple weeks ago, so
that character is like, oh, I
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can't wait to see that character in
Christopher Nolan's movie. And uh, yeah,
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loved him, loved him. He
brought some a little bit of comedic
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levity here and there, which I
wouldn't say Paul Newman does but probably not.
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Probably not. Yeah, and well, this is a kind of topic
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you definitely need a little bit of
levity, you know. And yeah,
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sometimes because it's a it's such a
serious subject and when you're looking at I
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mean, you know, Christopher Nolan's
always known for his casts. I mean,
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he's a fantastic film filmmaker, but
he always seems to get some great
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people in the movie and gets great
performances out of all of them. You
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know, it's not like just you
know, a couple of standouts, but
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man, you know, Emily Blunt
and Florence Pugh showing up, uh you
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know, And it took me until
the credits I realized that was Tom Conti
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playing Albert Einstein. Though every time
you's gonna wait, I know, that
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face. Who the hell is that
Emily Blunt? I gotta be honest,
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And this is not a This is
nothing against her performance, because her performance
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is incredible. Her care there,
you know, you know, she plays
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Kitty Oppenheimer, his wife, highly
unlikable for I would say a majority of
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the movie for me. But man, does she have She's got a moment
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where she shines and just oh yeah, you just cheer for her, you
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love it. Yeah, I don't
know. Um, I also kind of
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feel like, I mean, I
know the movie is not really obviously it's
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not about her, but it is
about his family, and I don't I
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don't think we got enough for her. You know, she makes the most
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of her of her scenes, but
yeah, I kind of feel like a
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little bit more, you know,
a little bit more would have been nice.
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I mean, look, you know, more of Emily Blunt is always
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nice. More of Florence Pugh,
especially in this movie, would have been
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would have been really nice. Yeah, she's one of the hottest young actors
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out there right now, does a
fantastic job. But man, at what
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three hours and fifteen minutes, I
don't know how much more you can you
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can fit in this movie? Yeah, and and yeah there was. Like
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I said, it's a huge cast. I mean, and as we're watching
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it, people are popping on the
screen. I'm like, wait, I
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know who that is. I mean
first, you know, when Josh Hartneck
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come on the screen, I was
like, um, wait, is that
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who I think that is. I'm
thinking, I haven't seen this guy in
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like what feels like twenty years Hardness, Hardness back Man. And he looks
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he looks fantastic. Yeah he does. I mean he read had a great
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job. You know, he's not
really known for being a strong actor,
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but he did a great job.
You think back to like the late nineties
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when the rumors, you know,
there's like he was gonna be our next
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Superman Man. You could have had
ten Superman movies at this point with him
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because he still looks incredible. Yeah, yeah, moving, I don't know,
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there's so many people, like you
said, they keep popping up the
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screen. Matthew Modine, Kenneth Brandon, everyone is in this movie. It's
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it's a you know, Alden,
Aaron Reich. You know, we didn't
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even talk about Ardie j I mean
playing Lewis Strass. Yes, Like I
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said, so many big names and
then the ones I like I enjoyed were
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the names the little people in like, wait a minute, I know who
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that is, so I would just
want to call it a couple of them
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because they're because of the magnitude of
the of the cast. It was fun
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to see some of these people in
here, because you have Alex Wolfe,
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known very well for Hereditary, who
was also recently an old and of course
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got it started in The Naked Brothers
Band on Nickelodeon, which is just hilarious.
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Olivia Thurbley from Juno and of course
one of my favorite comic book adaptations,
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Dread. She was in that Michael
I always messed up his name,
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Michael and Gerano from Sky High,
he played young William and almost famous.
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He plays Jackson and will and Grace. And he's also in Kevin Smith's a
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very dark movie Red State. So
you got you know, some not so
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big names but faces you kind of
recognize. And of course Josh Peck shows
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up, you know, best known
for playing Josh and Drake and Josh from
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Nickelodeon. It was just kind of
like, hey, wait, I know
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that a lot of people pop up
in this movie that you're their faces are
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familiar, and they all do a
great job. You know. No,
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there's no lines wasted, there's no
you know, there's no timewast in this
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movie. It's fantastic. Not a
bad performance. And I'll cut us both
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off right there, because if we
continue to talk about this cast, this
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this quick review will turn into a
right an an hour long thing. So
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h not a bad performance in the
bunch though, but the film itself,
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I daton. I feel like everyone
you're going to this movie, you're expecting
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this big epic action event. This
is a very slow paced, hard boiled
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drama. You know, almost like
a mystery, you know, kind of
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reminded me of like if you if
you like um, if you like Stone,
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Oliver Stone's JFK, something along those
lines where it's it just really it's
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like an onion, just you're peeling
back layers and you're learning more and more.
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It feels more like that, what
do you think? I think you're
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right. But what I noticed very
much so was that you have a very
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dry topic. It's a historical film. You're talking about time in our country,
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and the subject matter isn't exactly quote
unquote exciting. But how Nolan shoots
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it and how he paces the editing. It's almost like he put together an
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action movie style into a drama.
The camera's always moving, whether it's just
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a little subtle thing here or there. There's no stagnant shots. The editing
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is very quick, quick you move
from a scene to scene, and there's
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some sections just where they use the
sound to set the moment and really punctuate
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so and sometimes lack of sound does
the same thing. This movie, for
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as long as it is, never
feels that long, and he just he
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puts together. It's just it moves
so well. And it's not an action
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movie. It's not a it's not
a thriller so to speak. It's not
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a science fiction epic. It's not
you know, we're not in Gotham City.
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We're talking about an historical you know, time in this country and the
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people around it. But it moves. It's fun, fun to watch,
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it's beautiful to watch, and it's
interesting and he keeps it moving so you're
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never bored. And I think that's
incredibly impressive considering the subject matter. It
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was great, so well put together. I agree, And this is a
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this is I feel this is a
fresh step for Christopher Nolan because we're so
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used to these big epic event films
for him where he kind of pulls the
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rug from under your feet at the
end. You know, he's got like
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a Shamalan thing happening. This is
this is more like you said, it's
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a biography. It's it's a it's
a slow burn, it's it's very informative.
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But yet the camera's always moving,
so ye can't it can't. Can't
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disagree with you on that. Um
one thing that you get in Nolan's films,
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you always get amazing You always get
amazing music to go along with it.
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Yes, uh Ludwig Ludwig Gordson's score
for this Man. At times it's
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a lullaby and at times it's scary. Yeah, I looked. I wasn't
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one hundred percent familiar with with him, so I looked up other uf he's
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done. Of course he's worked with
uh Nolan quite a bit, but of
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course he's also done uh Black Panther
and stuff like that. So I'm like,
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wow, you know, I could
start listening and thinking about that,
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Like, you know, he did
a great job on this one. It
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definitely it does its job. It
doesn't overpower any scenes. It compliments everything
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that it needs to be. It
doesn't tell you what to think, it
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doesn't tell you how to feel.
It just works well with what's going on
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on the screen. And that's,
you know, not always an easy thing
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to do. You mentioned like the
silence, how important to silence is sometimes
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in this movie. I wouldn't change
a thing on that. I love the
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pacing, love the editing. Um. I think this is a home run
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for for for Christopher Nolan. Do
you absolutely it? I mean, I'm
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a I'm a Nolan fan. I
have not seen Tenant, but that's pretty
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much the only one of his movies
I haven't seen, and I really enjoy
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the fact that it's it's just a
you know, it's just a story.
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There's no spies involved, there's no
we're not you know, traveling from other
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planet to planet. We're not you
know, we're not bending people's minds and
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going through their dreams. This is
it's a it's a straightforward story from the
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most part, you know, Like
you mentioned, we're appealing layers were trying
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to get gather information. But I
love the fact that he has said,
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you know what, I'm just gonna
tell a story without all the you know,
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all without all the tricks and he
did a such a great job.
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If if I would like, I'll
bet this movie it's every Oscar nomination that
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possibly can and I will be It
will probably get the most uh this year.
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You know, it'll have the most
dominations because everything, there's nothing in
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this movie that I can complain about. It's amazing. Well i'll tell you,
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I'll tell you what else is amazing. Get yourself a four K Blu
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ray copy of Tenant, because you
are missing out, my friend, I
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know, back to back to this
film. I think we'd be remiss if
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we didn't, If we didn't,
uh send a thank you to uh the
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current Batman himself, Robert Pattinson.
This movie doesn't even happen. It was.
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It was kind of put on no
one's radar, you know, just
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based off of the idea that you
know, hey, you haven't done a
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biography of biography before. But uh, it's actually at the rap party for
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Tenant when Robert Pattinson gives him a
book of Oppenheimer quotes and speaks so yeah,
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so he kind of went down the
rabbit hole and said, yep,
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this is my next this is my
next picture. So, uh, Dayton,
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we saw it in a sold out
Imax crowd. Yes, um,
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I love it. Yeah, all
weekend long this movie. Uh so far
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this weekend we're talking about the the
Barbenheimer event. You know, this went
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head to head with Barbie. Uh, let's just talk about Oppenheimer for a
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second. It's Nolan's third highest grossing
opening weekend ever, the biggest thing for
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Imax for Nolan that he's ever done. And uh, as of this point,
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Oppenheimer is headed for just over eighty
million dollars domestic ninety three point seven
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million dollars overseas. It has literally
and figuratively exploded that. So I ask
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you, well played, well play
it? Yeah, So I ask you,
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Uh, Dayton, what do you
got for our listeners? Do they
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see it? Do they stream it? Or do they skip it? I
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could tell it. So. I
mean people are flocking to it, and
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there might be some people to go. I'll I'll wait because of the subject
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matter. I'll watch it at home. But I think you're doing yourself a
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terrible injustice. If you sit at
home and watch this, it will not
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look the same, will not feel
the same. This is definitely a see
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it, definitely a see it.
My controversial take would be I don't necessarily
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think you need you need to see
it in Imax. No, I don't
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think you do either. There's one
there's one scene, and we all know
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the scene, the Trinity Test,
which looks fantastic on the Imax screen.
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But I feel like, you know, you don't need an Imax screen to
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tell a very dark, moody,
compelling drama. Uh, you know of
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American history. So I say,
I say see it. Dayton says,
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see it if you can get into
the box office. I know we tried
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several days and you know for sold
out shows, and we got lucky on
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a ten thirty. We didn't even
sit together, that's how packed it was,
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right, But yeah, definitely see
this one. Uh. And as
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always, I'll buy the tickets and
if you went, Dayton, he'll buy
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the popcorn. That's right, We'll
see
Host of the Docking Bay 77 Podcast
Dayton Johnson (no relation) is the host of the Docking Bay 77 Podcast; a hot show focused on movies, music, books, and more. Dayton has been featured on several of our limited series, including "1986," "A Film at 45," and "Back to the Box Office," and has the esteemed (or is it dubious?) honor of being A Film By... Podcast's first guest co-host! Dayton is an avid believer that physical media is better than streaming, and often times reminds those disagreeing with his views on movies and music that "It's okay. You can be wrong all day!"