Feb. 16, 2025

Peter Weir - Witness

Peter Weir - Witness
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Season 6 A Film By...

Jeff and Amber are heading to Lancaster County for the 40th anniversay of Peter Weir's crime thriller, Witness, starring Harrison Ford and Kelly McGillis! The film examines the clashing of pacifism and violence, as a young Amish boy who witnessed a murder, and a detective from the modern world must rely on one another to stay alive.

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A little word association for you. I'm going to give

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you an actor's name, and without thinking, I just shoot

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from the hip. I want you to give me the

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iconic character, or the iconic role, or the first role

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that comes to mind. Okay, there's no wrong there's no

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wrong answer. You know you know this actor, I promise you.

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Well, yeah, but okay, there's always the wrong answer.

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There's not, there's not. But I just I just want

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to see what you say, Okay, Harrison.

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Ford, Indiana Jones.

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But if you couldn't say Indiana Jones, what would you say?

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Even though I hate this movie?

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Richard Decker?

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You hate Blade Runner.

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I don't like.

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Slimy Future, don't don't besmirch Blade Runner. But if you couldn't,

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if you couldn't say Deckard, what would you say?

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Han Solo?

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Okay? Okay, yeah, why not crying? But if you couldn't

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say wait, hold on? But if you couldn't say okay,

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But if you couldn't Hansul, you'd say Jack Ryan.

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Yeah.

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But if you couldn't say Jack Ryan, what would you say?

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I feel like I'm missing like a series.

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You find that man?

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Oh oh shoot? Richard Kimble, I was like, what is

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his name? Doctor or Richard Kimball.

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Okay, So I asked you for the iconic role associated

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with Harrison Ford. You gave me Indiana Jones, Han Solo, Deckard, Doctor,

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Richard Kimball, and Jack Ryan. I want to talk about

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a Harrison Ford character that I feel should be in

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the top five and yet somehow isn't. And I'm talking

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about Detective John Book. So, Amber, let's talk about a

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film by Peter Weir, his nineteen eighty five underrated crime

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thriller Witness.

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You think we.

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Would be safe for Philadelphia?

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Hello, and welcome back. I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis,

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and this is a film by podcast and but we're

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gonna talk about Harrison Ford today. We're gonna talk about

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Peter Weir today. These guys enjoyed working together so much

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on Witness that Ford immediately signed on to star in

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Weir's next project, The Mosquito Coast in nineteen eighty six.

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I love that.

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I love it when people just click like that.

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Wouldn't it be wouldn't it be great if our listeners

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had the opportunity to listen to us discuss the Mosquito

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Coast as well?

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I know, it's too bad that we don't have that already, Tea.

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Come on, well we do in eighty six.

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Yeah, yeah, listen, it's right there on our patreon, Amber,

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I believe it was your first nineteen eighty six episode

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with us. Yeah, this was like your you know, your

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first day on the job. It's like, hey, we're doing

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We're doing the Mosquito Coast.

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Thank god, it was such a good movie.

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We I did not know what we were getting ourselves into,

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but with the Voice of Reason. But listeners, if you

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haven't listened to our Mosquito Coast episode on the Lost

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Episodes of nineteen eighty six on our Patreon, you got

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to go over there and check it out. Head to

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patreon dot com slash a film by podcast. You can

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sign up for a free trial. Amber. I tell people like,

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just get in there, download a bunch of stuff. Get out. Yeah,

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you know, Columbia Houses as it were. But you know what,

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if you like what you hear, just keep subscribing because

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there's a lot of content on our patreon now, a

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lot of exclusive stuff right.

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Yes, for the Princes.

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Yeah, and it's so good. I know I have been

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looking forward to talking about this episode. I know you

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have been looking forward to this one.

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I love this movie so much.

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This celebrated its fortieth anniversary just a couple days ago.

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Oh god, so I.

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Well, you know, as old as you, as old as

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you think you might be. Just remember that Harrison Ford

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is a lot older.

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Well this is true.

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You know what. I just looking at this movie I

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figured out. I discovered that Lucas Haas is is my age.

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Oh really, I could have been a Witness with Kelly

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mcgillison Harrison Ford. I missed out. Yep, Well I might not.

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Could have been your big breakout role.

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Could have been my big breakout role. Well I do

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want to mention something about his breakout role later, But

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let's let's talk about Peter Weir, because he was nominated

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for Best Director for this film, losing to Sidney Pollock,

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who had directed Out of Africa that season.

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I mean, it's a big, sweeping epic. What are you

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going to do?

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I'm gonna not watch it as much because it's not

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better than a Witness. But I digress. A couple of

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facts and maybe a quote. Peter Weir has directed three

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films nominated for Best Picture. Oscar Witness was one of them.

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Dead Poet Society, and Master and Commander The Far Side

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of the World, which it's hard to believe none of

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them won, you know.

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I mean I could see them not winning Best Picture.

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But I feel like he should have gotten Best Director

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in there at some point for the trimmage of nothing else.

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I think so. Surprisingly, Peter Weir has a law degree

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from the University of Sydney, which is one of the

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more prestigious law schools in the world. It's always fun

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when you find out that an actor, actress, director has

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some degree in something. You are like, really, wait on.

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Your two talents coincide.

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We We've talked about directors and actors that have been

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doctors or been lawyers, and it's it's just wild up.

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You're in this movie a carpenter.

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Yeah, a carpenter. Well, we'll talk about that for sure.

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Uh.

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You know, you mentioned it's it's hard to believe he

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hasn't won an Academy Award. In twenty twenty two, he

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did receive the Academy Honorary Award for Lifetime Achievement. How

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do you feel about those those oscars?

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I don't know.

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I feel like it kind of like participation.

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It's kind of like the Academy says, we missed the

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mark earlier on.

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So we're okay, sorry we didn't catch you twenty years

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ago when you were still working. Uh, here's here's one.

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You know. I don't know. I just don't know how

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I feel about them.

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You didn't spend the money that other studios spent to

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get their oscars.

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So it's like it's like field day at school where

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you got you got, you know, participation ribbon. Yeah, I

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just come on, I don't know. I'm not taking anything

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away from him, but no.

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I'm glad that he got some recognition.

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So let's uh, let's hear from the man himself. You

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have a quote from Peter Weir.

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Well, I don't have a Peter Weird quote, but I

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have a quote about Peter were But I think it's

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too what a great nothing is.

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You are nothing if not a rule breaker? I mean

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all the time. Okay, you know what I If it's

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about Peter Weir, I assume it's about someone that worked

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with him. Uh, let's let's hear this. What do you got?

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What you got for us?

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So the editor of the movie we're talking about witness

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Tom Noble. He was quoted as saying this movie was

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just about assembly. There really wasn't anything to do because

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it was shot so well that all I had to

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do was get the footage and put it together. It

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was like Mozart, like the first draft was perfect and

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I just had to piece it together. And it was

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the easiest job I ever had editing a movie.

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Now, that is some of the kindest words you could

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probably offer about a director on a film that you're

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working on. I would say, I.

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Like that, well, I just love how it speaks to

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Peter Weir's like vision before he even has done anything,

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like he's already kind of mapped it out.

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I'm hoping that most of our audience listening has seen

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this film and maybe just need a refresher, maybe they

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want to go back after they listen to this episode.

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But in the chance that maybe someone hasn't seen this,

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can you give can you give our listeners a quick synopsis?

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Yeah? So, while traveling by train and stopping at a

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train station in Philadelphia and I'm ash Boy witnesses a

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murder in the train station bathroom. He is placed under

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Harrison Ford's protection as the detective investigating the crime, and

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then things escalate and harrison Ford finds himself having to

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seek protection in the Amish community.

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Harrison Ford finds himself giving his classic angry point at

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someone in Yes, that's pretty much all the snops, so

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I need my.

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Son said that.

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When he does that, he's like he just immediately wants

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to say, I'm sorry.

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Yeah, I never want the angry, angry finger point from

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Harrison Ford. You're in trouble if you get that. Amber.

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I love the opening shot of the Amish coming up

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over the hillside. Clearly it's it's Rachel's husband's funeral. Yes,

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but just a beautiful just the cinematography here's really nice.

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You know, they come up and you can just you

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can just the first word that comes to mind is community, right.

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Yes, because you're you're looking at this funeral and I

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never get that many people at my funeral like that

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we don't know there.

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You never know, you haven't died yet.

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There's like a hundred people there.

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Listen if he tells the whole story without a lot

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of exposition, which I hate, like you're just visually entering

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this world and you can completely tell what's going on

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and kind of everybody's relationship to each other.

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When when your time comes, I will I will talk

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to your son and I will say, listen, I just

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need a lot of people coming over a hillside. Just

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just let her look down and see that and put

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a smile on your mom's face.

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Beautiful greenfield.

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There you go. I can't believe Paramount was initially not

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interested in this film due to that very thing, the

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rural setting of Pennsylvania in Lancaster County. Producers, you know,

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producers say don't worry, We've got Harrison Ford starring in this,

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and they still were kind of like, nah, we don't

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really want to know, like where in a pigeonhole it

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because it's not really a cop movie.

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It's not really a Western. It's you know, this very

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kind of unknown community.

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It's not a cop movie, even though it has cops,

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and it's definitely not a Western, but it does have

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a Western mentality. It's got it feels a little like

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high noon, it feels a little like yes, uh Shane.

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In my opinion, you know, guy comes, Guy comes from

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you know, from out of nowhere. He's a stranger in

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a strange land kind of fault. Yeah, I don't know.

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I like that. I like that a lot of a

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lot of studios passed on this until Paramount finally gave in.

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And here's the thing, you know, it's it's underrated in

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the sense if you're discussing Harrison Ford films, like you know,

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I I during the cold open, I asked you to

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name five of his iconic roles, and you gave five

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of his iconic roles. But John Book, the detective from Witness,

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was not one of them. And I'm here to say

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I had the same list. But I feel like John

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Books should be in that top five. And maybe we

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talk about this today and maybe we change, you know,

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a couple of listeners' minds, maybe we change your own minds,

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because watching this again, I'm like, man, I could have

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seen Book in like another two or three movies you see, Yeah,

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And I.

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Think it's it's a better movie and a better performance

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than the Fugitive. Fugure is more.

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Fun, Yeah, but this.

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Is definitely a better performance and a better character.

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We At the fifty eighth Academy Awards, this film was

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nominated for eight Oscars Best Picture, which we said, you know,

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out of Africa one. Ford was nominated for Best Actor.

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Academy Award. He loses to William Hurt for a Kiss

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of the Spider Woman. I'd have to go back and

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watch that one specifically for Hurt's performance.

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But like Rold, Julia's right there.

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the uh. I like the fact that both these guys

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competing it at one point and they both end up

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playing the same character. Because as as many many of

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us already know, uh, just this uh recently a couple

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of days ago, you know, Captain America Brave New World

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is out Harrison Ford playing Thunderbolts Ross, which initially was

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played by William Hurt for who knows how many films

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in the in the MCU, so kind of kind of

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dig that the movie did win, you know, those eight nominations.

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so it's also nominated for six Golden Globes, and the screenwriters,

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William Kelly and Earl W. Wallace won the Writers Guild

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of America Award for Best Original Screenplay and Amber I

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will tell you, I know a lot of people looked

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to uh like sid Field will tell us to look

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look at Chinatown on how to write a really good script? Heck, yeah,

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which I don't. I don't uh, I don't disagree with

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But a lot of people are talking about Witness now

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nowadays on how.

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To write the economy.

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Yeah, just a tight neo noir thriller. Witness is now

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being looked at as this is how you do it.

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So can we talk a minute about the mesmerizing score

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of composer Maurice Alexis Jar What done? Thank you studying

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up with my friend? I need you correct me?

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What do you think of this? What do you think?

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What do you think of this? What do you think

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of this music?

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I was paying close attention to it. I watched this

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like three times this week, just because it's such a

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good movie, but to get ready for this episode. And

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the one thing that I noticed that I thought was

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interesting was it's very minimalist, but he uses like there's

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like synthesizer in there yep, which is interesting when you're

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on a farm.

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I but it works. I was so excited to talk

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about how much I listen to this score and feel

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like I'm listening to the music from Blade Runner until

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you uh crash my world and we're like, I like

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Blade Runner. But I mean you've seen Blade Runner and

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you kind of I think it's a synthesizers. Honestly, it

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just feels like it feels like Vangelis, you know.

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Y think it has that kind of ethereal or a

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theremy like just kind of one of those unusual instruments

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that gives you that different sound. But how it works

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with those like beautiful shots of just nature, Yeah, you know,

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a weak field or a barn raising or you know.

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It's just that's amazing to me.

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Well, I'll tell you who always has an amazing opinion

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when we're talking about film scores, is our resident expert

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Wayne White. Did so, Wayne, if you would, sir, take

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it away and tell us a little bit about Maurice

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Alexis Jar.

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French composer Maurice Jar had been a favorite of mine

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for many years, ever since I first saw the film

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Enemy Mine and heard his brilliant score within. Jar had

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been composing music for the silver screen for decades, ever

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since the late fifties during his time with the French Cinema.

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In the early sixties, producer Sam Spiegel discovered his work

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and invited him to score the upcoming film Lawrence of Arabia,

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which would win him his first Academy Award and see

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met him as a powerhouse of composing for Hollywood. For

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many years, Jar composed music for many huge films, with

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Doctor Schivago, Grand Prix, Dead Poets, Society, Taps, and The Terrain,

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naming just a few of the dozens of great scores

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he has created. He developed working relationships with directors John Frankenheimer,

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David Lean and John Houston, as well as working on

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the Year of Living Dangerously, directed by Peter Weir, which

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would lead him to his assignment for the nineteen eighty

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five film Witness. During the nineteen eighties, Maurice Jar was

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deep into what film historians call his synth phase. It

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was the time of synthesizers and computer generated sounds. The

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popular music charts was full of electro pop and synth

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pop bands taking advantage of the growth of technology, and

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many composers of the era would turn to this form

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of electronics, including greats like Jerry Goldsmith and James Horner.

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Used ten musicians to create his score for Witness and

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organize them like a band, with each person performing a

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different keyboard or sampler, while Jar conducted them as if

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he was conducting a small orchestra. But many question his

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choice of using electronic instruments for this score. Witness is

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a straightforward crime thriller taking place in the Amish community.

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Surely a more traditional orchestral score would have fitted the

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film better well. Fans are divided on the answer to

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that question, But what isn't debated is that the score

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to Witness is an interesting novelty in Maurice Jar's career,

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a different style and sound to his countless other scores

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where modern technology encroaches and invades the more simplistic styles

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of a simpler lifestyle. You can be the judge. The

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highlight of the score for me would be the five

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minute Q building the Barn, which showcases Jar's talent of

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setting the perfect tone to enhance what's being shown on screen.

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It's an inspiring cue, underscoring a key scene to the

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film where Book is invited to take part in the

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traditional Amish barn raising as a sign of the community's

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growing respect for him. Here, he takes the main theme

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and presents it in several different forms, ending with an

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incredibly rousing finale. Originally, director Peter Weir had used a

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temp track known as Cannon indeed by German composer Johan

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Patchebel over the scene. As with many directors, he fell

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in love with this piece and told Jar that he

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was planning on keeping it for the film. Jar took

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this as a challenge and studied the piece carefully and

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the way that Weir had edited to the visuals, and

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composed his own piece for the scene. During the performance

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of the cue with the musicians, Peter Weir walked in

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and heard it, shouted that's great, that's fabulous, and jars

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Q was used instead. Jar was nominated for both an

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Oscar and a Golden Globe for his score to Witness,

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losing only to the Magnificence score created by John Barryfort

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Out of Africa. On both occasions. He did win the

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British Film Award for Best Musical Score of nineteen eighty five,

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beating his own score for a Passage to India. Witness

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has only been released commercially just once. In nineteen eighty five,

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record label Very Sarah Band released his score on both

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LP and CD, with a very short selection of cues

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totaling thirty minutes. And eight tracks. It's a surprise and

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a shame that this score hasn't gotten the expanded or

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complete treatment from any of the record labels over the years.

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There's still music to be heard, roughly twenty minutes of

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music that not on the original album, along with alternates

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and unused cues that have been reported to exist. Hopefully,

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one day Maurice Jar's score to Witness will finally be

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released again, remastered and complete, for his new fans of

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the music to enjoy and own. Until then, take look

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at the dozens of scores of Jars that have been

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made available and discover why so many film music fans

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call him a favorite.

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Well, there it is, Amber. I would expect nothing less

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from uh from Wayne's I Love I Love when more

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and more like listeners or listeners have been contacted us

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and more of Wayne, more of the music. So he's

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a busy man, you know, he's he's doing that Phaser

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set the stun serious for us on Wednesday. So yes,

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we get him when we can get him.

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But Money just did the the Jerry Goldsmith Oh episode which,

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oh my gosh, so good?

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How fun was that I was? That was one of

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the situations where I was just loving the fact that

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I could listen to it because I wasn't on it

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under our buddy Chuck Bryan from the Cinematic Flashback podcast

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was a part of that one too, So him and

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David and Wayne, they did great. Let's take a break, Amber,

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and when we come back, we will start discussing this

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incredible cast. Welcome back. We are discussing Peter Weir's nineteen

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eighty five thriller Witness, starring Harrison Ford as Detective John

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book Amber. If you there's like some good behind the

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scenes stuff on the on the DVD and the Blu

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ray of this, and according to the director Peter Weir,

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Harrison Ford worked closely with the Philadelphia Police Department to

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prepare for the role learning procedures and according to director

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Peter Weir, he joined them on several police raids. Just

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put yourself in, you know, a situation where you're you're

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a bad guy, the police are breaking down your door

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and there's Harrison Ford with them.

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Han Sola comes in.

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Andiana Jones comes in. Now, obviously they didn't give him

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a gun, so I just have to I have to

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assume that they broke down the door and he just

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jumped in and angrily pointed at him. Right, I'm sorry,

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he got me. You got me Harrison again. This is

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this is such an amazing performance. Peter Weir said of

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Harrison that he possesses a magnetic quality. He is capable

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of filling a room with his personality if he had

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been a plumber and came to fix your tap. He's

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a person you'd notice. We provoke each other. It's no

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cozy fireside chat. And you know, you read that and

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you think it almost sounds like they don't get along.

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But I when I think about it, it's like, you

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know what, they provoke each other. They inspire each other,

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they push each other to do better work. And I

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think that's that's what he was meaning by that. But

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that's no cozy fireside chat. They're just they're not gonna

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they're not gonna phone it in right right.

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But the funny thing is what I love about Harrison

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for in this role is there is like a nerdiness

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to John Book, like this kind of little dorky thread

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that kind of runs through him as a person. He's

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not you know, Harsonford tends to play like superhuman heroes

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had Richard Kimball like they can do anything, even though

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it's just supposed to be a doctor and a say,

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analyst or whatever. But this guy is like very real

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and there's something so incredibly charming about that.

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I agree. Kelly McGillis playing Rachel Lap. She had only

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done one film before this, nineteen eight three's Rubin, Rubin.

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Did you see that one?

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No?

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No one did. But that's the movie she had done

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before getting the part and Witness, And I say no

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one did see it because she was working in a

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coffee shop when she auditioned for this role, and it

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was one of her next shifts where she's greeted by

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Peter Weir and hair and Ford who come in and

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offer her the role. How about that for a day?

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Great story?

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Hey Kelly, you got another table? And then you look

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over and there there's There's there's Harrison Ford. You know.

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Of course, following Witness, she catapults to start them with

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her role as Charlie in Top Gun.

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The following Ye, we were like halfway through this movie

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and Liam was like, wait a minute, is that the

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checker talk like he did not even put the chew together.

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She's so completely different.

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I I remember when I was a kid I had.

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I had the hots for for Charlie and top Gun.

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I wanted to be Maverick. Who didn't I mean? And

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then later I go back and watch what I had

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seen witness a bunch of times, and I was like,

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wait a minute, that's that's Charlie she's and then it's like, oh,

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that's Charlie. So yeah, yeah, I'll get to that later.

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Well, the way she embraces like the silence and the

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calm m hmm that Rachel has is just she's not

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to nose with Tom Cruise screaming in his face. She's

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like very you know, within herself. It's really a restrained performance.

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Well it is, and it's the right performance because while

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Harrison Ford is off playing cops with the Philadelphia PDE,

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she went to go live with an Amish widow and

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her children to learn the speech cadence, observe the daily

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life the routines of an Amish widowed mother because she

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really wanted to nail it. I'm telling you, like, when

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you watch this now, the fact that she is an

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Amish blows my mind. She's that good.

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Yeah. The respect that they show for this community is

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really wonderful.

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Huh. You know, and it bothers me though, Like eight

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nominations for this movie and she's she's not in the

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conversation for for Best Actress. I don't get that. I

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don't get a woman.

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I'm not surprised.

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Well, hold on, now, you can't be So what do

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you mean as a woman. I'm not it was best actress,

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Like there's there there were five other actresses that got nominated.

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I'm just saying.

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I know.

475
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:05.920
I'm just saying, when you look at the movie and

476
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:08.720
everyone that was acknowledged for their work in the movie.

477
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.720
Yeah, fact that she was not okay.

478
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.039
Of course it's not. It's not as flashy, it's not.

479
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:19.640
She's very restrained and very quiet.

480
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:23.000
You can't. You can't just make it like the fiftieth

481
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:26.440
Academy Awards didn't have a Best Actress you know category.

482
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.319
I mean, didn't Meryl Streep win? So, like, what are

483
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:29.680
you gonna do?

484
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:31.960
I don't know it does she always win?

485
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:32.640
Right?

486
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.359
She's all right, We're moving on. I do like I

487
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.880
do like the fact that, well, no, I shouldn't say.

488
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:42.720
I like the fact that I find it interesting that

489
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:46.400
that Kelly McGillis has a lot in common with the

490
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:50.240
gentleman that played the Swordman and Raiders of the Lost Arc.

491
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:51.559
Do you know about this?

492
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:55.680
Oh wait, I think I know. I know how. I

493
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:57.400
think I know how. You're gonna tie this all in?

494
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:01.160
Okay, yeah, well, okay, So she has a prominent encounter

495
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:03.440
with Ford at the end of this is ten ten

496
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.839
pages of dialogue, passionate dialogue. He gets sick. So they

497
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:09.759
just they just trashed it. They you said, we're not

498
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:11.599
We're not doing that, you know what.

499
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.119
I wondered though those stories are so similar, Like, I

500
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.359
have no doubt he was sick on Raiders.

501
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:18.279
But yeah, dysentery.

502
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.920
I almost wonder like in this if he was, like

503
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.720
I do, not feeling well, maybe we should just look

504
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.720
at each other because he knew would be better. And

505
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:32.240
I want to cut ten pages.

506
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.400
Of It's such it's such a good love story and

507
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.880
the way it ends, it's not like they live happily

508
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:37.880
a aeratare we know that?

509
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:42.279
No? And I think so much, just the two of them.

510
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:44.359
I think it's perfect the way it is.

511
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:45.160
You know, you know who's not.

512
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.680
I'm not even curious about what is on those I don't.

513
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:48.960
Yeah, I don't. I don't care because it's not as.

514
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:50.440
I don't think it's better than what we have.

515
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:51.880
Yeah, exactly.

516
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.599
You know who's not saying a whole lot is uh

517
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:59.599
is Lucas haas as Rachel's son, Samuel. Now I want

518
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.640
to point out two things about Samuel. First Off, the

519
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:08.160
nod to Indiana Jones is absolutely awesome. Did you catch that?

520
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:13.680
So remember, so remember, and this was this was intentional

521
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:17.599
at the beginning, when he witnesses the murder and Danny

522
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:22.440
Glover is like picking their stall doors open, he jumps

523
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:24.160
or he climbs into the last way and at the

524
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.200
last possible second, his hat that has fallen off. He

525
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:30.279
wipes his hat over, which is is straight out a

526
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:32.960
temple of doom. And I love the fact that that

527
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.759
they had the the wherewithal to pull that off. It

528
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:41.200
was so cool. Lucas Hassei's his feature film w is

529
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.880
two years earlier in a film called Testament. Have you

530
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:45.680
heard of this movie?

531
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:46.720
I've seen this movie.

532
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.920
It's well, okay, okay. I thought I was gonna blow

533
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.799
your mind, and clearly you're about to educate us. So

534
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.599
let's talk about Testament for a second. All right. This

535
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.079
is a because I'm like, what's Testament?

536
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.119
This is an example that I give my son when

537
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:06.440
I say, like you wonder why I have anxiety? This

538
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.240
is what I was watching when I was seven years old.

539
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:11.599
This is this is yeah, this is this is a

540
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.640
bugaboo for you. This is something that you don't care

541
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:21.240
for listeners. The tagline to the film Testament says, it

542
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.960
happened in an instant. The televisions went blank, the radios silent,

543
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.200
The cities were gone, the future abandoned, and the only

544
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.640
thing they have left to hold on to is the

545
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:38.720
people they love. Nuclear War Amber hits America and the

546
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.759
life of a suburban family is just completely scarred. It's

547
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.079
all about this woman trying to keep her family together, right.

548
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:49.640
Yes, And it's them scavenging for can goods and making

549
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:53.799
candles out of crayons, and her children slowly sicken and

550
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.920
die and it's just gut wrenching.

551
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:01.160
Kevin Kostner said that he has ever forgotten this film

552
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:05.559
and the powerful influence it has on him, and that

553
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:09.759
matters because this film stars a very young Kevin Costner,

554
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.400
a super young Lucas Haas you Got, Uh you Got

555
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.400
whom I think William Devane is in this like.

556
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:22.279
Jane Alexander, Carrie she's so brilliant. We just talked about

557
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.319
her and Kramer versus Kramer, and I want to I.

558
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.160
Want to do something out of you too. Uh. This

559
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.599
was directed by uh Lynn Lynn Littman, and I gotta

560
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.119
tell you first off, fun fact, Lyn Littman almost directed Witness.

561
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:36.720
How about that?

562
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:37.799
Oh that's funny.

563
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.759
Well, I'm I'm I'm captivated by this movie. I want

564
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:47.480
to see it. And you know, next month you're doing like,

565
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.680
you know, thirty seven episodes of you know, because we're celebrating.

566
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.920
Watch this movie again.

567
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:56.960
I think we have to.

568
00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:59.039
I'll be working through my childhood trauma.

569
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.799
Don't you want to celebrate Lynn Littman during Women's History Month?

570
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.160
And we could, we could, We could talk about this movie.

571
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:05.799
Right for sure.

572
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:10.440
All right, let's let's put on the calendar. I'll hear

573
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:11.119
your your grid.

574
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:12.640
A couple of cocktails off, Mike.

575
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:16.079
Okay, there you go. All right, Well, let's get back

576
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:22.119
to Witness. Alexander good Enough as David David as a

577
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:28.039
Daniel I'm sorry. Daniel Hawkliner, noted Russian ballet dancer, best

578
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.480
known for his roles in nineteen eighty six Is the

579
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.240
Money Pit, where he was Max the Maniac one of

580
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:39.799
my favorite. Uh you talk about composers, I could quote

581
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:45.680
I could quote most of his lunch. The union forces

582
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:47.240
me to allow you to go to lunch inspead it

583
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:52.599
the way you play, you eat. Yeah, those of you

584
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:56.359
with consciousness, match your talents, go stuff yourself. So I

585
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:01.720
hope you choke. Awesome. And then obviously he's carl In

586
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.960
die Hard. He's Hans Gruber's right hand man. Man. It's

587
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.559
and it's funny because like he's such a nice guy

588
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:10.640
in Witness.

589
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.079
You know, he's wonderful.

590
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:18.759
Oh my god, he's Rachel's suitor. Like he's he's interested

591
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.200
in Rachel. He wants to be with Rachel. I don't

592
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.240
know what Amish customs are, you know, because well you

593
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:23.839
see him.

594
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:26.680
You see an Amish date. They're sitting on the porch

595
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:27.599
on the swing. Heaven.

596
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.279
Well, let me ask you that because.

597
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:34.599
Because she does like the stretch. I'm around, but.

598
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.359
I noticed, like she's wearing her bonnet, and I did

599
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.359
a little bit of homework. Apparently when an Amish woman

600
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:42.960
wears a bonnet, it shows that she is taken, she's married,

601
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:47.480
she's yes, betrothed. H So you know, I didn't know

602
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.799
if like again, like her husband died like two weeks

603
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:51.920
ago ago, Like you can't just.

604
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:55.000
It's hard to tell the passage of time.

605
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.720
I feel like more time passes in this movie than

606
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:02.240
we realize. But yes, but he lives right next door.

607
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:02.960
I mean yeah.

608
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.039
She says he's like a son to Eli, her father

609
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:07.440
in law.

610
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.719
So kay, yeah, I mean Book is he's he's down

611
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:12.679
for what forty eight hours with his gun shot wound

612
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.519
where she's taking care of him. So the passage of

613
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.039
time after that, you know, maybe you're right, but still

614
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.480
like it's not like months have passed, like I don't know.

615
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.719
Maybe maybe it's an like the long con.

616
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.920
You know, he's I'm just gonna come over for lemonade.

617
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:32.400
It's fine, Yeah, you know, would you would you? Oh

618
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:34.599
my god, A picture and a.

619
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.880
Half let me tell you that the last scene when

620
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.920
he's walking toward the farm and he just tips his

621
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:47.920
hat for like I faint. He's so charming when he

622
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:51.440
tells Book, he says, you're whole is better now, but

623
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:52.920
then you could go home.

624
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:54.199
Then you could go home.

625
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:58.679
Yeah, like everything he does. He has such a small role,

626
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.280
but oh my gosh, he's so charming.

627
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:09.320
Well smaller still is uh Vigo Mortenson's role. He's playing uh,

628
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:14.480
his little Yeah, he's playing his little brother Moses. This

629
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.800
is his feature film debut, and he has zero lons

630
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:19.360
of dialogue. You know, we just see him helping raise

631
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.719
the bar. But it's like in does he I don't remember?

632
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:26.679
Yeah, Like at the funeral, he they tell the story

633
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:29.800
about the selling of the horse, and he's like, he

634
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.599
says some things, it's not really his story.

635
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.800
But oh at the way when they're yeah, he does

636
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.199
get to a little Yeah they're talking about the horse

637
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:41.159
with the testicle problem or something. Yeah, okay, yeah, you're right.

638
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:46.760
I take that one, good ball. Yeah yeah, Well I

639
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:51.440
love seeing these guys. Uh yeah, babyface Vigo Mortenson. Uh,

640
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.360
just fun to watch. Can we talk about Danny Glover

641
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:56.480
as Lieutenant James McAfee.

642
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.320
Let me tell you about how between this movie and

643
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:03.159
The Color Purple, I hated Danny Glover so much that

644
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:05.239
when leitha Weapon came around, I.

645
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:06.920
Was like, oh, the hell with this guy, Like.

646
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.119
It's to me like the whole movie to be convinced

647
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.719
that he was not gonna turn out to be a villain.

648
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:18.960
Danny Glover is in the stand in Witness The Color

649
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:23.199
purple and Silverado all in nineteen eighty five. He is

650
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.079
having a busy year, and you know, we haven't even

651
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:29.719
seen what he can do. We definitely don't see what

652
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:31.719
he does in this what he can do in this movie,

653
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:35.039
because I feel like he's critically underused. Dare I say

654
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:36.280
wasted in this film?

655
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:37.719
You know what, though, I don't know.

656
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:38.599
I think it's that.

657
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:47.400
Economic use again, because he sets such an imposing figure

658
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.920
that I feel like all he needs to do is

659
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:51.480
walk in.

660
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.760
Okay, So you're you're saying like he can pull off

661
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.000
the Boogeyman aspect, doesn't need a lot of scenes to.

662
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:02.960
Like, especially his opening scene is intense. So then when

663
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:05.239
you see him every other time, like when he shows

664
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.400
up in the parking garage, your blood turns to ice.

665
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.360
That's true, That's true. Yeah, it's funny because Peter Weir

666
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.559
says that is the most violent scene he's ever put

667
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:18.760
on film. He thinks he went way overboard with that.

668
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.519
What is I mean the way he the way he

669
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.079
I mean he's carving that guy's neck like it's a

670
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:25.679
Christmas and.

671
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:27.880
The way they have that jacket over his head like

672
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:29.360
that's what it breaks me out.

673
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:33.320
See that's the problem with men's restrooms. Like you're in

674
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:35.800
a vulnerable area and you have your back turn to everybody.

675
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.480
That place is a travesty. I wouldn't have gone potty

676
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:38.840
in there.

677
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:44.599
Well, when you gotta go, you gotta go. Boys don't care,

678
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:50.400
We don't Patty Lapone, as John's sister Elaine.

679
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.079
I could not believe that was her.

680
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:56.800
It's weird to see. I mean because it's been you know,

681
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:59.639
it's been forty years, and I'm used to Patty Lapone

682
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:04.320
like you know now on Broadway. On Broadway. Yeah, I'm

683
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:06.480
not used to Petty LuPone in.

684
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.880
With eighties haircut.

685
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:11.639
You know what. I'm glad you said that because I

686
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:15.480
didn't want what is it? Okay?

687
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.239
I know I did you look it up? Because I

688
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:20.079
wanted to look up, like was she doing something on

689
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:21.760
Broadway where she had to like cut her hair shirt

690
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:22.199
for a wig?

691
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.679
Amber. I didn't want to come across like some jerk.

692
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:26.960
But I'm telling you right now, thank you, because you

693
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:31.800
just recited my note word for word. It just says

694
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:35.719
Amber dot dot dot what is happening with her hair?

695
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.920
So now I feel redeemed. Yes, but yeah, it was.

696
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.679
That horror show of nineteen.

697
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.880
Eighty This wasn't like a this Okay, so this wasn't

698
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:47.880
like a look for girls in eighty five, right.

699
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.239
I don't know. I feel like one of the girls

700
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:53.599
in flash Dance had a similar hairstyle.

701
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:55.920
Sure as hell, what in Jennifer Bial's It was.

702
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:56.920
Not Jennifer Bials.

703
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.880
Her hair looks like what's what's those like little what

704
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:02.039
are they called spider plants?

705
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:04.960
Like where it's just like, yeah, like somebody took like

706
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:08.079
a straight razor and just hacked at it. Yeah, that's

707
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:09.800
why I'm wondering, like I need to look up.

708
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:10.920
I need to do more research.

709
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.639
And asked Robert what was Patty doing in eighty five?

710
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:19.239
What was Patty Lapone doing in nineteen eighty five?

711
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.000
And like shave her head to put a wig on

712
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.039
or something, because this is.

713
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.079
You would have thought they could have downed a couple

714
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:29.159
of bucks at this and put a wig on her.

715
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:33.159
Let her, you know, yeah, let her be a little

716
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:36.519
more enticing, you know, like we he shows up at

717
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.679
her place with with Rachel and Samuel, and she's got

718
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:40.840
she's like in the middle of a date, you know,

719
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:42.199
she's like in her house, Coach, She's like I'm on

720
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:44.199
a date and he's like, your kids are in the

721
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.760
next room, like, what are you doing? Don't judge me?

722
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.000
Like I'm like, I'm not judging her, but I'll judge

723
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.840
her for that haircut. I'll tell you that right now. Amber,

724
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:55.039
There's one more person I want to talk about real

725
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:57.719
quick before we move on to uh the making of

726
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.920
this movie. If you if you don't mind, yeah, began

727
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.119
a movie. You know. We we have the murder, right,

728
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:05.039
we have we have Samuel witnessing the murder.

729
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:06.599
Oh, I know where you're going on.

730
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:10.519
So, oh you caught it? Okay, Okay, So John Book

731
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:14.639
goes to the train station custodian and you know, this

732
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.280
guy's like, it's not me. They're the one. You know,

733
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:18.639
the kids over there. You want to you want to

734
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:21.960
tell give give our listeners the name of this of

735
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.079
this of this man who played the.

736
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:28.159
Who gets two minutes with Harrison Ford. His name is

737
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:29.920
Robert Earl Jones.

738
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:33.320
Okay, So, Scott and I a couple of weeks back,

739
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:36.800
we were talking about uh, Devil in a Blue Dress,

740
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.800
and we we mentioned the race films. So Robert Earl Jones,

741
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:47.360
one of the first prominent black film stars, beginning his

742
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.639
film career starring in Oscar My Show's nineteen thirty nine

743
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:54.119
race film Lying Lips. He went on to work in

744
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:56.880
films like Clint Eastwood's Hang Them High in nineteen sixty eight,

745
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.199
The Sting in nineteen seventy three, Trading Place, This is

746
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:03.360
Sleepway Camp in eighty three, The Cotton Club, which we

747
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:05.400
did an episode on. In nineteen eighty four, I was

748
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.960
a Francis four kpolo film. He was an accomplished star

749
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:13.719
of Broadway and Amber. There's one more thing about this

750
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.079
gentleman that is of note. Do you want to tell

751
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:18.639
our listeners what that is?

752
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:23.559
He has a little baby boy named James. Yes, Darth

753
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:24.519
Vader's dad.

754
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.760
This is Darth Vader's father, Robert Earl Jones, the father

755
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:30.440
of James Earl Jones.

756
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.960
And once you know it, you can never unsee it.

757
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:37.159
Like I turned the movie back on to look at

758
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.159
his face and I was like, that's James Earl Jones.

759
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:42.360
That's a whoa yeah.

760
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:44.639
And their voices are even similar, Like I think James

761
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:48.199
Earl Jones's voice is like deeper and more resonant, but

762
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:49.119
they're similar.

763
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.679
Yeah. I got excited because, like what I'm doing. When

764
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.400
I'm looking at this filmography, I was like, Wow, I

765
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.360
own like all the movies I just mentioned, I own

766
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.360
them besides Cotton Club, but I've seen it. But I

767
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:02.519
kind of like like, I gotta put hang them high on.

768
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:03.599
I gotta put sleep now.

769
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:04.960
I got watch the Sting again.

770
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.519
Got watch definitely gotta watch the Sing again. Yeah, Robert L. Jones,

771
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.480
how about that? So let's talk about the background this movie,

772
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:13.519
a little bit about the production. The story for Witness

773
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:18.079
was originally a plot outline for the television series Gun Smoke.

774
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:22.400
In nineteen fifty five, we mentioned the screenwriters William Kelly

775
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.079
and Earl W. Wallace. They actually got their start working

776
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:28.760
on gun Smoke, and the original story was about Marshall

777
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.000
Dylon traveling to an Amish farm looking for a witness

778
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.800
to a murder. I think there's a selection of our

779
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:40.039
listeners that are like, wow, guns, and then there's another

780
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:43.159
section that's like, what's gun smoke?

781
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.440
But he think they're not saying that. But all I

782
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:51.000
can think of is bounty law from once amount of

783
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.480
time in Hollywood. Yeah, well, you know sing like Leonardo

784
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:56.519
DiCaprio's character, Hey, I.

785
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.280
Look at the analytics. I know we have a lot

786
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.280
of twenty somethings and thirty somethings, so maybe they're maybe

787
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:05.800
they they loved Bounty Law with Leonardo DiCaprio. Now they're like, Eh,

788
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:07.920
check out Gunsmoke. Check out gun Smoke. It was, it was,

789
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:10.760
it was, It was fun. Does the you know the

790
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:16.960
focus of the screenplay initially was exclusively you know, on Rachel,

791
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.519
but Peter Weir's vision was more about a comparison of

792
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:25.039
pacifism versus violence, which we get through John books character.

793
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:28.440
So Amber that leads me to the question, you've watched

794
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.000
this probably a hundred times, you love this film. Do

795
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.719
you find yourself watching through Rachel's eyes or do you

796
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.440
feel yourself watching through John Book's eye?

797
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:43.039
I am always watching through John Book's eyes, except for

798
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:50.920
any scenes of violence, and then I guess I must

799
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:55.800
be experiencing what Rachel and Samuel must be feeling because

800
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:59.519
it's so horrible and it's so shocking and jarring when

801
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:05.000
it happened, and you can see how strongly it affects

802
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.239
them or how it affects the other Amish. You know

803
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:13.159
that this is not their world. Even they don't have television,

804
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:14.840
so it's not even like they see it on TV.

805
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:16.199
They never see this.

806
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:22.320
So absolutely no actual Amish people featured in the cast

807
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.119
or among the background roles, because, as the film portrays,

808
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.159
they do not like being photographed. That's a real thing.

809
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:33.800
They did, however, take an interest in the production. They

810
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:36.679
were kind of curious, so, according to Peter where they

811
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:40.440
were usually right out of camera range watching the filming,

812
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:45.480
just to see what the English were up to. As

813
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.199
we said, it was filmed on location in Pennsylvania and

814
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:53.320
Lancaster County, but the National Committee for Amish Religious Freedom

815
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:57.559
boycott of the film, citing concerns that the Amish communities

816
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:02.360
would be overrun by tourists once filming was completed. And

817
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:04.920
not really wrong, it did happen.

818
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.760
I mean, well, and you see how like those scenes

819
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:12.920
when they go into the village, yeah, to the general store,

820
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.760
Like the tourists are so vulgar.

821
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:18.519
Oh, they're just they're rude, you know, they just you know,

822
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.360
it's like it's like they're in an attraction.

823
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.920
Well and even you know, I noticed when I was

824
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:29.679
watching it earlier, when John first meets them, he takes

825
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.119
them from the train station and they're going out to

826
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:33.960
look for a suspect that might be in the area.

827
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:36.800
Oh yeah, shows them no respect, Like he doesn't tell

828
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:39.239
them where they're going, what they're doing. He just puts

829
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:40.880
them in the car and starts driving.

830
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:42.079
Like they go to the bad part of town. He

831
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:43.639
just leaves in the back seat while they go in

832
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.519
and rough up a suspect. Yeah yeah, but you know,

833
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:51.599
the governor at the time kind of kind of as

834
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:54.559
a as a means to make peace, he made the

835
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:58.079
decision not to promote Amish film communities as future film sites.

836
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.840
And if you think about it, aside from Witness, are

837
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:05.400
there that many Amish movies? Like I can't I really

838
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.000
can't think of that many. You know that that they

839
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:09.559
they got to cog in this world.

840
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:13.159
So yeah, there's a handful. And you know there's plenty

841
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:14.960
of arms like respect there.

842
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:16.320
Yeah, privacy.

843
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:21.960
So the film's original title was called Home, which is

844
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.719
the Amish term for death. It was then changed to

845
00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:31.679
Home to Witness, which Paramount execs thankfully did not like

846
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.159
and suggested a shorter final version, which was just Witness.

847
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:39.440
Hey, I'm going to agree with the executives.

848
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.119
Get it right sometimes they do. I want to talk

849
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.199
about some noteworthy scenes. I'm gonna try and limit it

850
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:50.119
to less than six or seven. I'll try amber obviously

851
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:51.000
the pivotal.

852
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:54.159
Moment beautifully pick anything.

853
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:56.159
Almost all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna gonna I'm gonna

854
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:57.920
blitz these a little bit faster because I know I

855
00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:59.800
don't we don't want to do like a two hour episode.

856
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:06.599
But let's start with Samuel iding McPhee at the police station. Again,

857
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:10.840
no dialogue, no dialogue, it's all in their expression. The

858
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:16.360
fear on Lucas Hass's face is it's believable. And the

859
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:19.880
concern on Harrison Ford's face as he realizes this kid

860
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.920
is shook, there's something wrong. No dialogue, but the score

861
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.920
is superb in this moment. Love this scene. What do

862
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:30.000
you think about this scene?

863
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:35.159
I love how from the beginning Harrison Ford is able

864
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:40.039
to connect with this little boy. Yeah, and the connection

865
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:45.800
that they have across this you know, police station is

866
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.199
just amazing. And you know, and of course, like he's

867
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:51.960
a little boy, he's going to be attracted to the

868
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:57.480
trophy case because it's shiny, shiny, you know, and just

869
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.360
the way it plays out, and Lucas Hawes is just

870
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.960
so he's very relaxed and very natural in everything.

871
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:06.639
He does.

872
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:11.960
Those big, big brown eyes wow, and.

873
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.000
Just that simple pointing to the picture.

874
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:18.360
Yep, And it's everything. He knows everything, Harrison Ford's John

875
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.280
Book knows everything he needs to know in that.

876
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.039
Oh, in that split second, he put the whole thing together.

877
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:29.280
Next scene, which I I call this Gun of the

878
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:34.320
hend Samuel finds Books gun. Now he's you know, he's

879
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:38.000
been shot. He's back, he's he's hiding out on the farm.

880
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:43.199
And Samuel finds his gun and Books. Immediate reaction is

881
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:47.800
to yell at him, which startles little Lucas saus you know,

882
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:50.639
but he has that teach it's a teachable moment. He's like,

883
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:53.079
you know here, now you can you know, he takes

884
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.559
the bullets out, he explains how dangerous is never touch

885
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:57.559
a gun. Now you can touch it, you know, he

886
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:01.360
puts in his hand. But that's the exact moment. Rachel

887
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.480
walks in and is clearly visibly upset. Amber. You have

888
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:12.440
been working for forty eight hours two heal a gunshot

889
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:16.719
wound on Harrison Ford. And then you walk in and

890
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:21.280
there's seven year old Liam holding a handgun. Are you

891
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.360
are you gonna just lose your mind? Or you know?

892
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:26.079
What's that scene? Look like.

893
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:30.440
I mean, I definitely would not have been as restrained

894
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:31.960
as Rachel is.

895
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:33.039
She's an homage woman.

896
00:49:33.239 --> 00:49:37.719
You know, amount of self control that she has because

897
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:42.000
I mean, just the horror of a child holding a

898
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.719
firearm and then you know, like you said, seeing the

899
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:47.079
violence that it causes.

900
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:52.159
And yeah, great moment though, because it leads to Eli

901
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.679
teaching Samuel about the evils of guns according to how

902
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:59.239
the Amish feel. And it's a little surprising because you know,

903
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.519
he's kind of would you take a man's life? And

904
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:05.960
and little little Lucas has He's like, yeah, a bad

905
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.239
a bad man. How do you know the bad man?

906
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:11.239
He's like, I've seen him, and I was like, and

907
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:15.039
You're like, you know what, he little Samuel's not wrong.

908
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:18.480
He he knows what a bad man looks like, and

909
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.119
he knows that the bad man can hurt him or

910
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:23.000
his mom, and he's gonna do what he needs to do.

911
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:26.119
So I like, I like, I love that scene, honestly do.

912
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:30.599
Moving on and I'm gonna talk this is this is

913
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:32.159
what I feel is the pivotal moment. This is kind

914
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.360
of like it's it. It starts with something a little

915
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:38.360
funny and then leads to this iconic moment. You know,

916
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:43.800
you know carpentry a little bit, Harrison Ford. He's trying

917
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.679
to be useful, you know, John Book's trying to be

918
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:47.639
useful around the farm. He's doing a little bit of carpentry.

919
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:53.079
Harrison Ford a professional carpenter before he becomes an actor.

920
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:55.719
And I love that Book and Rachel are flirting more.

921
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:59.679
You know, the bonnet's off now Amber yep, she's stating

922
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.400
her into hear her her intentions, and this leads to

923
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.800
the barn dance. I think this is the pivotal moment.

924
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:09.880
Sam Cook is filling the air and they're falling. It's

925
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.559
such a good Is this not one of the greatest

926
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.199
love story moments in a movie as far as you're

927
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.280
as far as you're concerned, Yes, it is. You know,

928
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:25.159
lantern lit barn, Sam Cooks on the radio, Harrison. You

929
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:29.519
know they're they're dancing. Clearly, she's never danced before. And

930
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:30.960
every time he and.

931
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:32.880
This is again where I said like he's being a

932
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:34.480
little dorky, a little silly.

933
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.800
Yeah, because every time they get so close and you're like,

934
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.480
this is it, They're gonna kiss, he gets he gets

935
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:42.880
the silly vibe. Right then he swings her around and

936
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.960
then goes right into the next dance move. This is

937
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:48.199
I feel like, the pivotal moment of the movie because

938
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:50.280
this is where they have both recognized that they are

939
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:54.039
in love with each other but they probably can't be together. Yes,

940
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:56.840
you know, because it doesn't end with a passionate kiss.

941
00:51:56.840 --> 00:52:01.000
It ends with no, it's completely innocent, but it's innocent.

942
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.880
But kind of interrupts. Yeah, and the thing it's over.

943
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:07.239
So yeah, all right, I got I got three more

944
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.360
scenes and you haven't mentioned your pivotal moment yet, but no.

945
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:10.000
This is it.

946
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:11.960
This is it? Okay?

947
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:12.360
Is it?

948
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:12.840
Okay?

949
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:13.199
All right?

950
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:15.199
Three other scenes I want to talk about. I want

951
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.679
to get your thoughts on the barn raising.

952
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:22.280
It's just it is the most beautiful sequence.

953
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.760
Why so the first thing that question I have to

954
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:27.800
question Egli is like, come on, got a barn to

955
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:30.079
raise in a day? To do it? They do this

956
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:34.159
in one day? Like that's their customs and their farms

957
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:36.280
to deal with, And yeah, I get it.

958
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:40.480
You know they're under DELI dell around like get together and.

959
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.079
Yeah, like oh this is and you know it's like

960
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.719
you find out like, hey, we've got a newlyweds and

961
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.400
this is like their gift, like the community. We all

962
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.000
need a barn. Everyone needs a barn.

963
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:50.679
Yep.

964
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:55.320
It does break my heart to know that there were

965
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.000
off off camera, there were some Amish asking about the barn.

966
00:52:58.039 --> 00:52:59.639
What was going to happen to it when it was done?

967
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.079
Because they're doing it. This is an actual barn that

968
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:06.280
they're raising production toward the barn down when when the

969
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.519
film was over, I know I saw that. How did

970
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:10.000
you do that? Just leave it up?

971
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:11.639
Yeah?

972
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:13.719
I don't know, unless they didn't need.

973
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:18.320
It, or there's probably like some kind of safety regulations

974
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:20.360
or something like that. Something happened, you know. It's not

975
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:22.360
that I don't know, but because.

976
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:26.119
It wasn't the Amish building it like that's separate rules

977
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:26.960
for their community.

978
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:29.159
It is. But I do love that scene because it

979
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:31.360
starts with, you know, because Harrison forty is up, he's

980
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:34.840
he's he's moving around, and that's that's your line, you know, Daniel,

981
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.960
your hole is healed, good, you can go home. He's

982
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:41.199
he can't wait to send John book pack, and so

983
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:43.800
he can.

984
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:45.159
All day.

985
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.519
I got to tell you, I love the way they're

986
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:52.000
putting this barn together. I don't know how Osha would

987
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.079
feel about it, But damn, it's awesome. It's fun to watch.

988
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:56.199
It's a fun scene to watch.

989
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.639
Beautiful and the way, you know, like you said, the

990
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:02.480
whole community is there, so you see all the storytelling

991
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:06.480
going on while they're doing it, and you know, then

992
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:08.079
at the end of the day, like the little boys

993
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:13.199
are hammering in. Yeah, everybody's doing something.

994
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:20.119
All right. Two two more scenes. Maybe one of the

995
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:24.440
sexiest love making scenes that doesn't that doesn't have love

996
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.920
making in it. I'm talking about Rachel bathing. What's your

997
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:29.519
what's your take on this?

998
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:32.360
On this scene, I think the kiss is sexier, but.

999
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:38.880
I do like everything that is said in that bathing

1000
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:40.760
scene without being said.

1001
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:45.840
Well, any I tell you right now, any scene where

1002
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:52.079
a woman is undressed and having a private moment like Rachel,

1003
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.039
you know, having a bath, and then you see a

1004
00:54:55.079 --> 00:55:00.639
guy watching her, he's clearly that's that's clearly, there's like creepy. However,

1005
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:03.480
when it's Harrison Ford and he's looking at her, but

1006
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:06.679
he's not looking at her, he's looking at.

1007
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.519
Her he's well, he always is looking at her eyes.

1008
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.800
Yeah, it's the desire, you know, and her and she

1009
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:17.320
invites him in like yeah, I mean she well, I

1010
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:21.199
mean she she turns around and you know kind of

1011
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:24.079
you know, because the whole thing about Amis is like

1012
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.000
the pride, like that's pride is a sin.

1013
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:28.920
But for her to turn around and show him like this.

1014
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:34.239
Is this is She's vulnerable, she's open, and it's an

1015
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:35.639
invitation and it's.

1016
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:39.440
An invitation and it's I think. I think it's sexy.

1017
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:43.760
I think it's tasteful. Yeah, Charlie from top like you've

1018
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:48.800
ever seen Charlie. But the kiss is great. Well, I'm

1019
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:50.800
not gonna say the kiss isn't great. But one one

1020
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.880
last scene real quick, so we got to move on

1021
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:55.920
books standing up to the town bullies.

1022
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:58.119
I hate that scene.

1023
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.800
You hate that scene? Hold on, it's I mean, I know,

1024
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:03.159
I know why you hate it. Anytime you have a

1025
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:07.320
scene where bullies are being bullies, it's.

1026
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:12.639
It's just ignorant jerks, and that's upsetting. To have that

1027
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:17.199
violence in front of people that are poor. Violence is

1028
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:19.840
upsetting that. You know, everything that leads up to it.

1029
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:21.519
Harrison Ford is already a rack.

1030
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.880
Yeah, but the fact that you know they're they're they're

1031
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:26.679
shoving ice cream cones and.

1032
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:29.519
The satisfaction of the guy getting.

1033
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.559
I do because like Eli, you know, Harrison Ford is

1034
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:34.559
getting pissed and Eli is like, no, it's not our way,

1035
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:36.920
and then he just book just says it's my way,

1036
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.159
and he gets out and he tries to do the

1037
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:41.639
right thing. You know, Hey, you're making a mistake, and

1038
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:44.920
then they mess with him and dude gets his face

1039
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:47.920
caved in. I love that moment, you know, I love that.

1040
00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:52.159
And uh, Alexander good Enough looks at the cop and

1041
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:53.760
he's like, he's from Ohio.

1042
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:57.559
Yeah, oh yeah, he's my cousin. He's from Ohio. I

1043
00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:00.440
was like, thank you, Alexander Goodenough, because that's how we

1044
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:05.679
do it in Ohio. We're not taking shit like that. Yeah,

1045
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:08.280
he's from Ohio. Amber, let's take one last break and

1046
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:10.719
when we come back, we'll wrap things up. Okay, Yes,

1047
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:17.599
welcome back. We have been discussing Peter Weir's nineteen eighty

1048
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:22.800
five crime thriller Witness. Amber. I'm gonna ask you, because

1049
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:26.599
I always ask you if someone was unfamiliar with Peter Weir,

1050
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:31.480
which three films would you suggest they watch after having

1051
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:32.159
seen Witness?

1052
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:39.199
So definitely, my absolute favorite Peter Waer movie and one

1053
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:42.000
of my favorite movies of all time is the Truman Show.

1054
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.039
Okay, one for one Truman Show from nineteen ninety eight.

1055
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:50.360
I love that this is Jim Carrey being the hilarious

1056
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:52.880
Jim Carrey. But this is where this is the crossover movie. Right,

1057
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:55.719
he's funny, but this is where we get Jim Carrey

1058
00:57:55.800 --> 00:58:01.039
as a dramatic actor. Yes, yes, he kind of has

1059
00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:04.719
a knack for taking, you know, a comedian and giving

1060
00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:07.360
them a dramatic role, you know, or.

1061
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:11.079
Any actor kind of an unexpected Yeah.

1062
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:14.440
Well, Harrison ford Is is Indiana Jones and Han solo

1063
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.800
and then he pulls him out of that fantasy world

1064
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:19.840
and now he's John Book. He's a very like you

1065
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:21.480
said earlier at the top of the hour, he's a

1066
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:26.679
very realistic, flawed type of you know, detectives.

1067
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.360
Yeah, he's a man perfect gets scared. He's a man

1068
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:34.920
who is injured. Yeah, you know, all right, same thing

1069
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:35.960
with Trimman Show.

1070
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:36.760
It just.

1071
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:40.440
We did a whole episode on it over at Docking

1072
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:44.480
Bay and it just can't say enough about it's how

1073
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:48.320
beautifully written it is. And Jim Carrey is amazing. Ed

1074
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:51.400
Harris is a great villain. Laura Lenny is a great villain.

1075
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:52.599
I hate her even.

1076
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:55.119
More you know I feel about Laura, Lenny. I've said

1077
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:58.280
it before. She's your best friend. She's your mom's best

1078
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.920
friend that you have thoughts about. That's that's Lord Lenny.

1079
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:05.239
All Right, what do you got Your second suggestion to

1080
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:07.559
someone wanting to watch more Peter Weir?

1081
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:11.599
I'm gonna throw out The Year of Living Dangerously. It's

1082
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:13.360
one of his earlier movies.

1083
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.320
I did not see that coming, but continue.

1084
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:23.599
Sigourney Weaver is amazing in it. Yeah, Linda Hunt won

1085
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:27.599
an Academy Award for her performance.

1086
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:30.760
And film. It's a great film, an.

1087
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:38.440
Incredibly intense movie. One of the few things of Mel

1088
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:39.719
Gibson's that I can still watch.

1089
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:45.239
Okay, I appreciate all right, all right, let's go. Your

1090
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:49.360
third and final suggestion for someone wanting to watch more

1091
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:51.039
Peter Weir, I shall.

1092
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:55.079
Surprise you again. I really appreciate the movie Green Card.

1093
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:57.280
What it is.

1094
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:04.199
It is a charming little romantic comedy. It's just a

1095
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.519
fun little movie, and I really love it.

1096
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:16.039
I cannot stay in He's one of the best. The

1097
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:16.719
guy sucks.

1098
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:20.840
He's not a goods Have you seen Sarah no Depresion?

1099
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:21.159
Yes?

1100
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:24.119
You know, what what are you thinking it? Yeah?

1101
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:25.239
But Steve Martin was so much.

1102
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:27.079
I was gonna say it's not better than Rock Sand,

1103
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:31.239
but yeah, I want the According to Hoyle, you're watching

1104
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:32.400
it for French class.

1105
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:38.159
No, it's brilliant and Green Card is absolutely charming.

1106
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:43.519
I did not see that coming. I'm happily surprised with

1107
01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:46.960
the year Living Dangerously, but I'm like, I'm a guest.

1108
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:51.320
The great thing about the great thing about Peter were

1109
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:53.360
is honestly you could pick them.

1110
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.199
All you could. Okay, I'll be fair.

1111
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:56.599
There's really not a bad one there.

1112
01:00:56.840 --> 01:00:57.199
All right.

1113
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:01.960
Well, I just assumed that you would have The Mosquito

1114
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:04.960
Coast from nineteen eighty six on your list because I

1115
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:06.960
know how you feel about it because I listened to

1116
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:10.320
you talk about it with me and Andrew on that

1117
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:15.960
Patreon episode. So yes, Harrison Ford and River Phoenix, just

1118
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:20.400
a whole lot of wow in the Mosquito Coast. Fantastic film.

1119
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:22.719
So that's my that'd be you know, you and I

1120
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:26.079
are clicking on Truman Show, I had a Mosquito Coast.

1121
01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:29.119
And then lastly, again a little surprised that you wouldn't

1122
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:31.960
have this one because he's taken another famous comedian and

1123
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:36.079
giving him a dramatic Role nineteen eight nine Dead Poets

1124
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:37.679
Society with Robin Williams.

1125
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:44.360
It's so heartbreaking, Okaytin, And since Robin Williams' death, like,

1126
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:45.199
I can't watch it.

1127
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:45.960
I just can't.

1128
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.159
Is it just that one or any Robin Williams films?

1129
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:53.960
I haven't watched any Robin Williams movie since he died. Really,

1130
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:56.119
it's so heartbreaking, I know.

1131
01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:01.880
All right, Well listen, listeners. You got yourself what like

1132
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:03.400
five choices there?

1133
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:08.320
Yeah? Yeah, so I mean, but honestly, do yourself a favor.

1134
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:11.280
Watch them all. They make it. Hanging Rock, the true

1135
01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:13.559
story that Robert won't admit is a true story.

1136
01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:18.960
Another good one. Amber. I don't recommend seeing this film.

1137
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:20.840
I recommend owning it.

1138
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:22.920
Oh what are you talking about?

1139
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:27.119
I've got it. It's in my collection. It should be

1140
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:29.559
in your hairson for collection? Did do you own this one?

1141
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:30.679
Or did you have to stream this one?

1142
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:34.119
Amazon Prime has it on sale for seven ninety nine,

1143
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:39.199
so you know, I'm that's for space. So I do

1144
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:42.719
the digital sometimes, and so I did get the digital

1145
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.840
of this, although I'm jealous because I want those extra

1146
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:47.119
those bonus features.

1147
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:50.199
I have the DVD, but I now I have to

1148
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:51.920
order the Blue Ray because the Blu Ray has a

1149
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:55.159
audio commentary. You know how I love my audio commentaries. Yes,

1150
01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:57.440
so I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to give

1151
01:02:57.480 --> 01:02:59.719
you my my DVD. I can't just throw the DVD out.

1152
01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:06.880
But I can't imagine a film starring Alexander goodenough. You know,

1153
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.199
drinking lemonade is not one that you're not gonna put

1154
01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:10.199
in your collections.

1155
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:17.599
Of him dancing. So all right, well that's more important

1156
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:17.800
to me.

1157
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.320
Listeners, What do you think of Witness? Have you seen

1158
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:25.480
this one? I know we didn't get this one wrong, Amber,

1159
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:27.599
but I'm just curious. I'd love to hear what people

1160
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:30.000
think of Witness. You can let us know on social media.

1161
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:33.360
You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, and x You can

1162
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:36.320
check out a Film by Podcast dot com for film

1163
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:40.719
and TV articles that we've supplied, plus our entire library,

1164
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:43.159
which is streaming free. Amber. We're talking over three hundred

1165
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:49.199
sixty maybe seventy episodes at this point, six seasons. I mean,

1166
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:51.119
we're getting we're getting along on the tooth.

1167
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:52.840
That's your whole work.

1168
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:54.199
We started there.

1169
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:57.159
It is. You can write to us at a Film

1170
01:03:57.239 --> 01:03:59.920
by Podcast at gmail dot com with your questions, comments

1171
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:02.360
and concerns. We may just read your response on the

1172
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.159
show and send you some of our a film by

1173
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:11.320
Swag as always. Uh, it's pleasure, Miss lewis uh talking

1174
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:12.559
talking great movies with you.

1175
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:13.639
You.

1176
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:17.519
I know you are about to get real busy because

1177
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:20.119
as we head into March, it's it's Women's History Month,

1178
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:24.280
and uh, you've got a pretty full dance card, don't

1179
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:24.679
you know?

1180
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:26.039
Lot of fun stuff.

1181
01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:28.440
You're even gonna be on Faser Set to Stone, aren't you.

1182
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:30.840
I cannot wait.

1183
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.119
You are heading to the bridge to talk uh talk

1184
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:36.519
Star Trek. I can't wait to hear that one, because yes,

1185
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:38.639
I know what you guys are talking about, and I'm excited.

1186
01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:41.079
So yeah, it's so good. I'm so excited.

1187
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:44.159
All right, Well, listeners, if listen any any Star Trek

1188
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:47.599
loving UH fans out there, if you haven't checked out

1189
01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:51.719
Faser Set to Stune. It is our Wednesday show that

1190
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:55.280
we drop usually every other Wednesday, sometimes it's every Wednesday,

1191
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:59.239
depends on what the what the crew is doing with

1192
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:00.920
the what the what Abe and Wayne and Scott are

1193
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:02.519
working on checks.

1194
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:06.119
One I listened to was Wrathacon and it was amazing.

1195
01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:09.320
Oh, they were so awesome on Wrath that was That

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was a good one, so check it out. And uh, meanwhile,

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