Dec. 18, 2024

Phasers Set To Stun: Lower Decks S5.E9 Fissure Quest

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Welcome back to an all new episode of Phasers Sect

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to Stun, where we continue to show our love for

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everything Star Trek in this ongoing series from a film

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Star Trek universe by covering television, movies, animation, directors, merchandise,

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and much much more. Plotting your course on this final

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voyage of the Us of Cerritos to Shapoor Trek Crew.

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I'm Wayne Whiten, I'm David Burns, and I'm Skot Hoffmann.

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Today we are talking about the ninth episode of the

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fifth season of Star Trek Lower Decks, titled Fissier Quest,

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written by Lauren Maguire and directed by Brandon Williams. So, Scott,

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why don't you give us a short summary of the episode.

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But like you said, Wayne, we're in the next to

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last episode of Lower Decks and they're going out with

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a bank. This was one of the best of the

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series on so many levels. In my opinion, we're further

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than ever into the Quantum Fissure plot thread, where we

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catch up with Captain Boimler in the Defiant class an

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Axamander I'll try to say that, and they shortened it

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to Nacient. He was recruited by Section thirty one in

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season two, and we're finally finding out what he's been doing.

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His crew has been chasing the people behind these fissures

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and trying to clean up the mess they left behind.

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He's joined by Paul Curzon, Decks, and a bevy of ensigns,

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all who are Harry Kim. The things change when a

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two Pip Kim comes aboard along with an alternate Mariner,

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and they finally catch up to the culprit of this

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multiversal mess, the USS Beagle. Their crew is from a

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different type of starfleet, not the mustache twiling villain type,

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but the type that explores different realities to learn more

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about ourselves. This is backed with so many details and

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amazing characters. I honestly just want to dive in and

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start talking about it without saying anymore. I also can't

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wait for the next week's episode, even though I don't

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want it to end. I want to say a quick

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congratulations to both Lauren maguire and Brandon Williams. Obviously we've

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talked about Brandon a ton, we've had him on the show.

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Just seeing his name in the credits for this next

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last episode is amazing and he did not disappoint with

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his direction, nor did Lauren with the writing.

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It was both just pitch perfect.

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And we now have one one with a full beard.

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But we're good.

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Yes, yeah, finally that's how you know it's end.

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Let's tell you know what the ending is. You get

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the Reker beard. Now we're good.

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All right, David, what do you think of the episode?

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There is a lot to enjoy about this episode, so

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much as crammed into this little amount of time that

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it's over before you realize it. One of the things

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I love that they addressed in this is because of

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you know, tackling the whole multiverse thing. I loved that

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because I'm so sick of it with Marvel, I'm so

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sick of it with DC. I'm so glad that they

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tackle that, Like I'm so sick of the multiverse. So

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I love I love all of that, and I also

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love the fact that the bad guy really wasn't the

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bad guy. It was like they didn't realize what they

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were doing. And then you know, we get the the

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two Pep Kim who actually causes the biggest problem of all,

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which obviously we're going to figure find out in the

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last episode.

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But overall, I love this episode.

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Yeah, I agree. You know, Boiemler said that I'd be

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happy to never hear the word multiverse ever again, and

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I've always agreed with that, you know, especially you know,

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with all the Marvel stuff. But this is the first

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time Star Trek has ever tackled that that I'm aware of,

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and I'm really enjoying it, especially because we get to

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see a lot of returns. You know, it's great seeing

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some love given to Star Trek enterprise with this episode. Yes,

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and of course, you know, it's incredible to hear Jeline

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Laylock back to play to Paul. I mean, she she's

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been very elusive when it comes to Star Trek. She

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rarely ever makes a convention appearance or talks about the show.

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It's not that she doesn't she hates a show, or

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she's trying to distance herself. She's just too busy, you know.

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I loved her character on Enterprise, and it's so glad

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to have her back because she was such a strong lead.

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And all of them, I mean, it's great hearing them all.

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You know, I never thought that we would ever see,

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you know, Baser and Garrick or any of them, you know,

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back doing Star Trek again.

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Here they are. It's funny.

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It was kind of like that data moment when a

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few episodes ago when I had to stop and listen,

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is that Brent Spiner? And then in this one, Paul

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I had to like stop and listen, is that Julien

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and the shirt up?

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Oh my god, it is, yeah, and it was It's

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great that, you know, the bad guy this season ended

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up not really being a bad.

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Guy at all.

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You know.

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It's just you know, a crew, a different star fleet

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exploring the universe, you know, the different universes. You know,

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they don't even know they're causing any damage.

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Now we got this this universe threatening phenomenon for the

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lower Deckers to solve. And I think, honestly, this is

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a perfect way of ending the series, since they have

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to end it by giving him something that's just like

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exponentially ridiculous and difficult to solve. I can't wait till

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the next episode to see how they solve this.

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But what a jerk move.

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Oh yeah, you're right, it is. It is Where to

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send that.

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To the one reality? What that's not there the whole

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When he looked at the that.

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Goes yeah, I know that was my favorite. What a cliffinger,

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But I.

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Mean great that he has that much faith in his

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own lower Decks crew. He knows that if anybody can

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handle what's coming, not necessarily, are they going to be

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able to stop it? Are they going to be able

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to live with it, roll with it, do whatever they

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need to do, right, they're the only people that can

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handle it. It was great seeing that that other boiler

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Boimler Dave, like you were saying, like the whole multiverse thing.

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He just seems so exhausted with the whole thing, ye,

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which is kind of speaks to how they wanted to

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handle the season. Right, We're not going to throw like

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you know, crew cut what did he say, crew cut

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nelix aggurated thing. I was like that just to do it,

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just because it feels like it's a bit lazy, But

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the ways that they brought it in was fantastic. I

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mean seeing to Paul was great knowing that they got

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the original cast for Garrick and Basher. I know that's

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a deep cut for DS nine for them to be married,

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and I love that he is an e mh.

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Yeah, that was a nice little touch. It was.

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But the character I loved seeing most was Curzon Dax,

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who I don't remember ever seeing. It was just all

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these stories from Cisco about the old man and also

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the kind.

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Of stuff, but it was so brief appearances. It was

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so brief flashback appearances that you can barely even say

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he even appeared.

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Yeah, you know, we we mentioned a few times about

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the animation. I know we talked about that last week,

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that the animation was really good. We talked about one

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shot when they were on the Klingon world and how

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incredible that was. There's one shot.

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In this episode that just I was like, whoa, that.

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Was a shot when you get that really distant shot

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of the two ships between the two fishures when talking

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about Yeah, I loved that shot. That was incredible and

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that's one of my favorite shots of this whole season

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in my opinion.

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Oh yeah, yeah, the whole episode is beautifully animated. You know,

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from the character's movement to the action. It's just wonderfully

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dredged by Brandon Williams. Yes, he does a great job

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and he really knocked it out of the bark with

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this one.

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Well, animation wise, one of the ones that hit me

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the most was when Paul is trying to take all

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that contra from Curzon and there's that little blur moment

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where you see kind of two Cursons on either side.

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When I was watching this the second time, I was

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kind of wondering if that would be the only time

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that we saw this crew, because I kind of want

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to see like war with Paul I do. How does

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that pass on?

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Right?

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Brilliant casting. We got so many great people coming.

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Back, Alfred Woodard her back and slow.

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That was the That was the data moment where I

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was like, I don't recognize Oh my god, And I

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kind of realized at the same time that Meredior did.

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her name, like, oh gosh, it is Yeah, I was

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trying to who that was.

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Now. The fact that they are wearing kind of enterprise

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era uniforms, is it fair to say that maybe the

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USS Beagle is one of the first ships that they've

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been using for this purpose, because it seems like wouldn't

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their federation have figured out the whole two fissure problem

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they were trying to solve.

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I would say, yeah, it was probably one of the first.

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I'm also kind of interested in how long this has

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been going on. So if if William Boimler has been

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recruited by Section thirty one and has been working within

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the whole time on this fissure thing, is that how

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long it's been happening. It's just behind the scenes.

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That I didn't know it.

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Yeah. How about how about the the panel keeps coming

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down and hitting people? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah.

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You even hit the ship that I dude, I lost

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it when it hit the ship.

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I'm like, are you kidding me?

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that was fantastic. You can tell there's a lot of

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love DS nine on the series.

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the sets matched the Defiant sets that were used in

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Deep Space nine.

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I like the line where to Paul and Mariner, we're

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talking about big starfleet nerds and to Paul kind of

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implied that Archer is a giant star Fleet nerd.

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where she talks about Zef didn't get it for a

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minute either, so it's almost kind of saying, like, you know,

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maybe an older character isn't willing to kind of see

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this new way of exploring, but saying that it was

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exploring the multiverse is to learn more about ourselves, which

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just seems like a classic Lower Decks kind of line

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and something that crystallizes what they've been saying about this

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season in the series all along. Right, it doesn't have

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to be some kind of multiversal threat. It's a great

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one like it all kind of it's kind of born

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and wraps up in the same episode, you know, right,

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even though we see those repressions in the next episode,

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but I don't know that that kind of focus on humanity.

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Is great to see.

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One of my favorite lines in this episode, probably for

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the whole season, was when Dak says, calm down, everyone's

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gonna get their ascaped.

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I love that.

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Yeah, I love that line.

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Or I'm Harry and Kim. That had to be really

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cathartic for Garrett Wang to say that line.

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So now that we've given our opinions on the episode,

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let's take a look at the characters themselves. Which character

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do you think shines the most this week? David, I

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have to go with to Paul. We know how awesome

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she is from Enterprise, and she she carries over into

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this episode with that, but what she did in order

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to save the memory of Dak's really sent that over

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the top for me in my opinion. So she's smart,

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she's brilliant, she's beautiful, she's everything in one package, and

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she shows that again here in this episode.

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So without a doubt to.

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Paul Scott, I'm gonna say, Harry Kim, I just can't

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identify which one, because there's one that says a line

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when two Pip Kim is, you know, going off the

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deep end and starting to take things over. One of

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the Harry's talks about just enjoying the experience of being

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in Starfleet, that it's it's valuing relationships more than rank,

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which just seems to speak to like every other Harry

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is fine with it. There's just one it was just

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so fed up with it that he couldn't stand it anymore. So.

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The fact that they don't necessarily want a pip makes

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them pip worthy to me?

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What about chewing?

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I chose Harry Kim as well. It's obvious that they're

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making fun of the fact that he's an insign, and

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it seems like that he'll always be an insign. But

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you know, it's been a joke in the Star Trek

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community for so many years now, and of course lower

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decks best at taking those those silly things as jokes

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and going wild with it. But I love the how

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one Harry Kim, you know, makes it past his fate

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and gets promoted and he actually ends up being the

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bad guy of the episode and then getting blown up.

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So you know, maybe being an insign forever in such

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a bad thing, you know, But how could he not

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shine this episode? I mean there's eight of them, eight

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times the Harry Kim in this episode, so he has

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to stand out.

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Although I think it's interesting how many Harry Kim's there were, Like,

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was that part of kind of saying, oh, I see

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how Brent Spiner seems to be like somebody who has

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had more roles in Star Trek universe than anything else.

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We'll go ahead and give Garrett a big head start

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by just giving a whole crew Fillry Kims.

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If you had a choice to be any character that

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appeared in this episode, which one would it be and why? Scott,

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I'll let you start with this one.

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All echo what Dave was talking about and go with

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to Paul taking on Curzon's Catra, which I don't know

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what that would feel like like. It feels like it

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would be a lot to hold in the brain, but

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to experience all the lifetimes of Curzon, including the experience

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with Cisco before DS nine, I assume I've always been

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interested in learning more about the old man. At the

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same time, there's kind of a Shepherd book quality where

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I don't really need to know those older stories, right,

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but it would be fascinating to kind of learn more

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about them.

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Yeah, Dave, what about you?

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It's the same answer for me. It's I'm going to

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Paul again for this answer for exactly what you said.

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I couldn't imagine what it would be like to get

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to know the experiences of someone's life experiences, you know,

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like that getting to know and see everything they saw,

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getting to know everything they knew had to be very,

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very overwhelming, and for that to happen would just be

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something incredible in itself. So yeah, I agree with Scott

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both of my answers, and this is for to Paula.

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Well, for me, I think I chose Captain Ollie Sloan

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or actually any one of the crew of the Beagle.

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You know, as much as I tire hearing about the

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multiverse with with other properties. She really convinced me with

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her speech, just like she convinced h boymore fascinating. You know,

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it really would be fascinating to explore these different realities

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and you know, being able to see what could be

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or what you just missed or or you know, what

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shouldn't be. You know, I just when you think about it,

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it's the you know, the possibilities are endless, and it

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would be interesting to see, you know, how Earth, how

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the universe, how Starfleet, all that would have progressed if

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things have been different.

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Yeah, that's a good answer, Wayne.

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Okay, now, because my favorite part where we dive deep

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into the episode and see if we can't pull out

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any Easter eggs, and boy we did in this episode.

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They were a lot in you know, with lower decks

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there's always a lot, but this episode had a lot.

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Start off, the the USS Aximander is a Defiant class starship,

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just like the USS Defiant Deep Space nine. Apparently, doctor

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Lewis Zimmermann got his long term medical holographic program up

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and running in his universe. In the regular Star Trek universe,

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he tried to create a new version of the hologram

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using doctor Julian Basheer's form, but it was stopped when

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it was revealed that Basher was a genetically enhanced human

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that was in the Deep Space nine episode Doctor Basher.

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I presume that's a really good episode from the series.

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I suggest y'all'll go out and watch that. It's also

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mentioned that To Paul was married to Trip Tucker for

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sixty three years in her universe, but in the regular

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Star Trek universe, to Paul and Tucker ended their relationship

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and Tucker was killed in the line of duty in

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the final episode of Star Trek Enterprise, which was called

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These Are the Voyages. It seems that the USS Voyager

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had similar fates in many of the different universes. One

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of the Kims mentions fighting the Borg and aliens trying

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to steal their organs. That was a reference to the

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Videans from the early years of the series. Also, one

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of the Kims is wearing a white and black racing

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uniform that was seen in Voyager's episode Drive. This one

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I actually found interesting, and I really had to go

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back and look because I knew it. It looked familiar,

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but I had to really do some research. The design

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for the USS b Goal that's not a new design,

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it's a very similar design that was created for a

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really early version of the USS Enterprise. That version could

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be seen in one of the pictures that was on

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the wreck deck in Star Trek the motion picture, and

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was also used as a model in the film Star

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Trek Into Darkness. The Klopians were last seen in the

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Lower Decks first season episode Must to Do about Boimler,

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but they were much friendlier than they were in this episode. Yeah,

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they were all right. As Scott had mentioned earlier, Captain

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Lily Sloane and her crew where twenty second sin Re

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Starfleet uniforms similar to the design of the USS Enterprise,

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but the bridge and the corridors the Beagle were also

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very much like the NXO one Enterprise from that series.

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You'll also notice that Captain Sloan's uniform is purple. Well,

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the rest of her cruise is blue. I'm not sure

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if this was intended, but I think it might have

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been because of the changes that the costume department made

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on the series Star Trek Enterprise at the beginning of

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season three. They had dyed the uniforms blue from their

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original purple, and I think that they just did that

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as a little call in joke back to that. And

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while the production staff were able to get back many

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of the legacy actors to voice their characters in this episode,

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they didn't really have to worry about the voice of

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Curtis on Dax. We mentioned that he hardly appeared in

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the series, but when we did see him, he never

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said anything, so it just could get anybody to see

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his voices. And finally, Joanline Blaylock's credit at the end

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of the episode isn't a mistake. According to producer Mike McMahon,

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she asked to be credited simply as Jolene.

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I think a couple other things that kind of stood

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out to me, And I had forgotten about Frank Owen Smith,

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who played Curzon in the Emissary, and it kind of

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seems like this is who the Curson that we see

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supposed to be designed after Yeah, but it more struck

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with me that it almost seems like Curzon was almost

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designed to almost resemble Picard, which would have been kind

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of interesting if Cisco had grown up with Curson looking

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like Picard or at least similar to Picard, and then

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knowing what happens at Wolf through five nine. It also

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felt like maybe the original series was the only series

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that this episode did not touch on, Like you get

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a little bit of Star Trek, the animated series, you

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get Next Generation Voyager Deep Space nine, Like there were

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a lot of a lot of content from a lot

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of different series in this one.

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Thought that's interesting. I had thought about that. I had

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actually went through to see if that maybe every Star

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Trek series had been mentioned. But other than the reference

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to the fact that there's a moorgified Kirk, just mentioned

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a Kirk that's fine from the original series. And of

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course there's no mention to Discovery in this episode, so

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