July 22, 2025

Phasers Set To Stun: Strange New Worlds S3.E1 Hegemony, Part II | S3.E2 Wedding Bell Blues

Phasers Set To Stun: Strange New Worlds S3.E1 Hegemony, Part II | S3.E2 Wedding Bell Blues
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Season 6 Phasers Set To Stun

On "Phasers Set To Stun," we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more. On this week's episode, our crew welcomes the return of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds for it's third season. Join us for a recap of episode 1, Hegemony, Part II, and episode 2, Wedding Bell Blues.

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phasers Set the Stunt,

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where we continue to show our love for everything Star

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Trek in this ongoing series from a film by podcast

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which focuses on every quadrant of the expanding universe of

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Trek by covering television, animation, movies, directors, merchandise, and so

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much more. Plotting the course as always as your core

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Trek crew, I'm David Burns.

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And I'm Wayne Whited.

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Scott is still on important way mission, so he will

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return to us as soon as he can, and.

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I'm beginning to think we might have to send a

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shuttlecraft for him.

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I think we might. I don't know. Worries that long overdue,

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that's for sure. All right, listeners read Alert. If you

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ever not caught up with the series Strange New Worlds

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Season three, please go do so, as there are many

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spoilers ahead.

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Oh yeah, we.

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Will be right here on the bridge waiting for you

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after you've seen them, and now for the conclusion words

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I have been waiting a long time to hear, especially

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from Pike. That'd be two strange New Worlds is back finally,

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I might add, with season three and wow does it

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open with a bang? Today we are discussing season three

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episodes one and two. Has been a part two. I

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can never pronounce that word.

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I have trouble with it too.

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Egwny Part two and Wedding Bell Blues had Jimminy had

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Jimminy Part two and Wedding Bell Blues. There we go.

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I know many of us have been anxiously awaiting the

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conclusion to last season, the Cliffhanger, which was two years ago.

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In my head, it has been a long time. It

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has been a stressful wait. But here we are, and

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BOYD does it ever deliver. I'm like, Wayne, can you

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give us a quick recap of the first episode? Please?

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I sure, Kim. In the conclusion to last season's Cliffhanger,

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Captain Pike tracks down at the Gordon ship that has

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captured the colonists from Parisius Beta, along with lawn Doctor

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me Benga Ortegas and Sam Kirk. Despite orders from Starfleet

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to stay in Federation's space. Within Gorn's space, they discover

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a binary star system that could be hiding the Gorans

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home world. Meanwhile, Spock and Nurse Chapel attempt to save

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Captain Bateell's life, who have been infected with Gorn eggs

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that could very soon hatch and threaten everyone on board

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the Enterprise.

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This episode opens with some serious action pack scenes. You

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did incredible, some incredible cinematography CGI worthy of the cinema,

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and I have to say, Wayne, and I'm sure you're

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going to agree with me on this, an outstanding score

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to go along with it.

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Yes, oh yeah, I absolutely grew. I was gonna talk

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to you about that.

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Beautiful music throughout this episode. Loved it very very much.

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I know there have been quite a few Star Trek

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fans who have been upset about the Gorn being introduced

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so early in the timeline, but I think we got

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a pretty good answer here of how this episode ends,

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and we'll get to that in a little bit, because

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I know Gorn wasn't introduced until the episode Arena, which

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was in the obviously the nineteen sixty seven year the

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original Star Trek. But how they finished this episode, I

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think kind of cleans that up a little bit. And

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I was pretty pleased with it, and I think a

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lot of Star Trek people should be very key with that.

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Yeah, it was. It was a very satisfying conclusion in it.

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And you're right, it did wrap things up, in my opinion,

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pretty nicely. Actually, uh, you know, leaving it open for

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you know, Kirk to not recognize or say he had

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not seen a Gorn in the episode Arena. I thought

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it was a brilliant conclusion. You know, it's so hard

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to conclude two parts, especially after so much time, because

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you know it, it's it's rough, you knows, as a

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writer having to come back and making an ending that

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will satisfy not only the fans but the regular viewers.

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Yeah, I completely agree with you. I mean, this whole episode,

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you were literally on the edge of your seat. I

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didn't give you much opportunity to breathe because you were

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just anxiously waiting to see how this was going to

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wrap itself up. And a lot of our crew members

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were in some serious trouble here and we didn't know

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if anybody was going to survive, and you know, as

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this episode was going, I was really worried about artagus Man.

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Yeah, I mean, you know, with some of the characters.

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I remember two years ago, now, you know, some of

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our predictions for this episode. Fortunately a few of those

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predictions didn't come come through. I think I remember I

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was almost certain that Bettel would not survive this episode.

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I'm glad you did, I really am, but yeah, I

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was certain of that. I thought the episode was wonderful

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in the fact that everyone seemed to get something substantial

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to do with the plot. And that's that's really tough

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to do, you know, when you got such a big cast,

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and but everyone got a little bit of time to

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shine and and do something, and a little bit of

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of of character, you know, a bit. I think I

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think every one of the main cast, the main characters

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were I'm trying to think of the best way to

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say that made better through the story. I know that

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doesn't make much sense. It's just they had, they had

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something to do, and I felt they came through it

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with us understanding those characters a little bit better.

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It made their characters stronger, It gave it gave their

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story arcs more strength that we you know, we've seen

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it in the last two seasons, but this one really

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really made everybody better and pulled the crew together even stronger,

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which I don't know how that was possible, but it

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really does. You know, you've got you've got two things

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going on here. You know, we're really three things if

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you think about it. You've got, you know, the crew

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who are trying to get the Enterprise to hide from

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the Gorm with Scotty and Pellia, and then you've got

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obviously the Bridge crew on you know, on the Enterprise,

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who are doing their thing. And then you've got the

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crew who are on the Gorn ship who are basically

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trying to survive from being freaking food, you know, for

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the Gorn, and just so much is going on, and

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you know, when this episode opened, I was obviously anxiously

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waiting it because you know, as we've discussed, we've been

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waiting two years for this freaking thing for Crying out Loud,

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and it's been very highly anticipated for us. But when

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it opens up right in the middle of the battle

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and you get those really cool camera shots where the

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camera's like twisting as you Oh, I loved it so much.

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Man kind of reminded me of JJ Abrams star Trek

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like you had those camera shots and I loved that

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and it was very fitting for this episode, you know,

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and obviously when they ran the ship, but I thought

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that was just fantastic. The whole sequence there was just incredible.

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But one of the things that I absolutely love, and this

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goes back to that developing the characters more. I love

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the bridge scenes on the Enterprise because we got to

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seat Pike really lean on his crew because he was

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he was looking at them, you know, brainstorming, give me

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some ideas, help me here, let's figure this out to

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help them get out of this situation. And it really

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showed how much the crew leans on each other.

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Yeah, and for every one of the characters, this was

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a very stressful episode for all of the characters. You know,

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some of them are put through a hell of a

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lot of you know, mentally and physically in this episode.

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And there are some really big stakes that happened for

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some of the characters in this episode. You know, you

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got you know, Captain Pike Key's forced to choose between

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you know, the landing party and Starfleet and Federation. You

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know that that's a huge decision on his head. Of course,

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you got you got the landing party on their Gorn ship.

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They got to decide. You know, what do they do?

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You know, they sell themselves? Do they say the colonists?

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If possible to say both. You know, that's a huge decision.

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And then you got in Sick Bay, you got Chapelin Spock.

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You know, they're trying to save the Tell and they're

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trying to make this huge decision on what to do,

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and they you know, it's so frustrating for them because

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they don't want, you know, that Gorn to be hashed

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and have another repea incident of that one earlier episode.

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Was it done? All those who wonder, you know, huge

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stakes in this in this episode, and it all is

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so incredibly wonderfully written and done and performed by all

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the actors. I loved it.

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And paced well. Yes, it did not seem like everything

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was crammed into that amount of time or they were

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just stretching it out to fill in time. It was perfect.

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No, they weren't. Definitely weren't stretching out because they had

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a lot to cover. But it doesn't feel like, like

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you said, everything's crammed in here, It really doesn't. The

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flow is beautiful.

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Yeah, and What really caught me by surprise is Pike

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making the decision. He made the right decision. He had

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to worp out. There there was no there was no choice.

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And I love that line when he says, hang in there, guys,

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and and as he's as they're warping out to his

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his dialogue was a little you know, uh distressed or

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not distressed, but like it was kind of like it

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was caught in the warping out. I guess you could say, well,

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almost like you're being transported away, but you get that

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weird dialogue sound going. Yeah, I love that. I thought

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that was a really cool thing.

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Yeah, there was. There were some great effects and that

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was one of the really nice sound effects. And you know,

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we don't talk about the sound effects very much, and

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this is this episode really really has a great soundscape

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to it till they did a phenomenal job. You know,

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we didn't really see the Gorn that much in this episode,

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as I thought we would. But once I after I

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watched the episode and I was thinking about it, maybe

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that's for the best, you know, Like sometimes I've always

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learned that and heard from other writers and producers and things,

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especially with some other TV shows that yet less is

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more sometimes it is, and I think maybe that's the

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case here. You know, we don't need to see that

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much of the Goran because you know, we got we got,

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I mean, you know, coming up what was a few

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years later and everything. But they wrap it up really,

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really nice for the Gorn and for the Goran storyline.

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Although I don't think it's quite over with yet.

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Well, no, I think we still got to tell that

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we've got to worry about. It's not she's not out

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of the woods yet, no, so, and we'll get we'll

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get to that as we're talking about episode three coming up.

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But what I find interesting is, like you talked about

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how all the characters are in different areas, working and

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doing their best. But one of the things I really

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like is the heart to heart that Chapel had with

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Patel right before she was putting her under, you know,

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and she said, you know what, I think, Bettell said,

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this is like a rip van Winkle, and then Chapel

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corrected her like no more more of like sleeping beauty,

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And thought I thought that was kind of kind of cool,

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you know, a moment between those two characters. Yeah.

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I think one of my favorite things is actually a

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bit what you talked about, like on the Bridge, the

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way the characters were portrayed, you know, like I said,

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this is a very stretchful, stressful situation, and they showed

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their stress a little bit. Yeah, I can't think of

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the name of the one character, the helmsman. She you know,

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she could see the stress in her face where she

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you know, puts her head on her hand on her

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head and you know, pinches her nose and Pike knows

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that that, you know, you they're going through some a

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rough situation. But the crew is there for him, you know,

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the way they all pull together with your her and

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and Scotty and and Kellia and and number one, they

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make it through this.

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Incredibly, the speaking of the helmsman, there was a line

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in this that really is like whoa. When Pike looked

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at her, he could tell she was exhausted, she was beat,

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and she hadn't had any sleep for a while. And

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he goes, you know, he was basically relieving her, you know,

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and she's like, no offense, but I'm not leaving the ship. Yeah,

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and I'm not leaving my post until we get everyone back.

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And Pike looked at her, goes copy like he was

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impressed with what of her, you know. And I thought

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that was a really cool thing between those two.

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great way of showing the tension and the stress and

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everything that's on top of their heads.

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Yep. I liked. I liked that they touched on Land's

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flashbacks with the Gorn. You get to see her brother

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again a little bit, But they didn't dwell on it

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too much. You just got that, like, she's in this

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situation with the Gorn now, and obviously she's gonna have

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some of the flashbacks because I mean she's freaking out right, Yeah,

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I mean she's been through this before and here she

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goes again, and now she's struggling. How the hell am

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I gonna get out of here and get the people

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who I care about out of here with me. I

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just thought that how they got out of there and

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the things that way they went through was just phenomenal.

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And I think that made her character even more stronger

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than what it was before, because she's now overcome that

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that fear that well, you might as well call it PTSD.

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Really it is what she has had, you know, she

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she was in a situation where she just couldn't break down.

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She wanted to, but she couldn't. She had to keep

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pushing through because their lives and the lives of the colonists.

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And I think I think the whole situation, she came

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out of it the best out of everyone because she

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overcame those fears, and of course they rescued everybody.

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M hm, well, I think someone else on the crew

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is going to get that PTSD that we saw at

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the end of the second episode. Yeah, I think so,

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and we'll talk about that when we get to that episode.

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I loved, I absolutely loved the relationship between Pelly and Scotty.

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Oh yeah, that was one of the best things.

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We saw a little bit of that, you know last year.

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Look with last season, I should say in the finale,

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but here it really you get to see it shine

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even more between these two of them. I asked, you

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thought it was hysterical when Pela comes in the Gordon here,

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the Gordon here, just the fourth him to do to

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fix the device, to make sure it's working. I love that.

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So yeah, and we we were wrong about one of

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our predictions. We had said that both of us agreed

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that we didn't think Scotty was going to become a

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main character, but they've added the actor's name to the

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uh to the main credits with the rest of the

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main cast, so he's here to stay. And you know,

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I'm kind of glad after seeing this, after seeing his

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interaction with Pellia, I want to see more of that.

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I thought they were a great two part team to

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get there.

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They are. I cannot wait to see what else occurs

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between those two because they are perfect together. I love it.

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I mean literally, it's teacher and student, right and you know,

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she taught him years and years ago, so getting to

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see that that working because she knows how he thinks,

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how he processes things, even the part about him not

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being a big drinker. But I think was that in

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the next episode, wasn't or was that this one? I don't.

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I got the two of them kind.

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Of that was that was the next episode.

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Okay, we'll talk about that a little bit later. So

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sorry about that, listeners. Getting ahead of myself here, but

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to go back to and this is kind of giving

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away a little bit of who I think really was

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the character that shined the most, So I'm kind of

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jumping ahead of myself. But Erica Ortegas. I'm telling you

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she was phenomena in this episode when yeah, she was

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the part where they're arguing a little bit and they

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look at her. He goes, can you fly this? And

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she's like, don't be rude. Of course I can't. But

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later on, my god, Wayne, she took control of that

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ship and she was bleeding out like she was dying,

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and she knew she had to take charge to get

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them out of there with that ship. Phenomenal.

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she did started freaking out about that, but you know

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she had to pull herself through. You know, they were

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in such a stressful situation and they knew that the

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only way out was through her skills. And I think

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that was a great scene. I think they were all

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That scene with her was fantastic. Another She's another character

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that grew a lot. Her story grew so much from

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this episode.

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And one of the lines, there's something lines in this

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episode I really liked, but her we get a repeat

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of line she did last season, but it was like

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almost like she could not muster enough strength get it out.

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But she says it, I'm eric Otegas, I fly the ship.

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I cheered when she said that she's pretty much dying. Man.

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I was waiting for her to say that too, and

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I was glad she did. Yeah, it was like her

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in Fras.

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Yeah, it was. It was kind of like a Duke

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moment though, and g I Joe, if you know what

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to talk about, which they got the message over the

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intercom the Ortegas is going to be okay. They did,

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Ortega's gonna be a okay.

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Yeah, yep.

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It was fitting because I mean it's so much that

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was happening. They couldn't go all over the place. We're

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running out of times. It was it was fitting. What

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else did you love about this episode? Wayne, because there's

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so much to.

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Love there was There was really was just the visual

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effects were absolutely incredible. I mean I've been blown away

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with every episode and I remember with part one just

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just absolutely loving the visual effects esecially for the second half.

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But I think they even out did themselves this time.

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You know, the shots of them crashing into the ship, yeah,

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was so well done. The Gorn ships just you know,

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zooming back and forth, and then the Binary Star when

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he you know, flew the Enterprise in between the stars

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and they activated that Scotti's Machine, and I thought those

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effects so incredible.

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They were they were they like I said, it was

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cinema quality. Man. I mean, it impresses me on how

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much money they put into these stream issues now, which

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they can you know, and yeah, and CGI I mean

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is I'm not gonna say cheap, because it's not cheap,

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but at least they've gotten to a place now that

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they can bring that to television.

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Well yeah, I mean, you know a lot of people,

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and I've seen this over the last few years, you know,

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they're very upset that we're only getting ten episodes of

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any Star Trek series now and they feel like, you know,

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it's just a little bit. That's this is the reason

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why we're able to get these cinematic episodes, these incredibly

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beautifully directed, beautifully acted, you know, with incredible visual effects.

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They couldn't afford. There's no way they could do twenty

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six episodes. And time is way over. It's not just

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Star Trek as any TV show that time is over.

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You know, if you look back at any of the

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old Star Trek shows, next Generation Voyager, you know, in

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order to get those twenty six episodes, they had like

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twelve filler episodes where there were no visual effects. Well

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that they're not gonna do that anymore. No, they're not

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going to do that anymore. And that's this is this

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is the result of us getting ten episodes. We get

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these incredible, beautiful, wonderfully done episodes that that feel like

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motion pictures.

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It goes back to the the they saying quality over

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quantity and exactactly what this is, and we get in

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the quality.

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Yeah, we got two very good quality episodes this time.

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I'm sure we'll get eight more.

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Yeah. And you know, and speaking of the cg how

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about that shot of Land running in and killing that

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Gorn who is holding our tag up in the air.

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Oh yeah, that was a good shot. Oh man, I

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forgot about that.

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That was very impressive.

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Man.

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And again I thought, oh, there's Ortegas going bye bye,

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see you later. But somehow that poor girl. I am.

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I am really really surprised that everyone made it through

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this episode. I really am. I was not. I expected

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at least someone to die, because we really don't know

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how long any of these characters, especially you know, Ortegas

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and Lawn. You know, they're not around when the original

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series nomes around. So what happens to them. This could

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have been a good example of of you know, them

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being killed or written off, but they're still with us.

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Their story still continues.

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Yeah. How about the that that ending scene where Pike

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gets down on his knees and starts praying, and he's

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basically talking about his dad, you know, if you know,

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kind of goes back to season two. I believe it

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was where they you know, they talked about Pike's dad

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was a science teacher, but he taught religion, right, Yeah,

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so Pike was kind of like, I hope you're happy

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when he gets down to start praying for Patel. I

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thought that was kind of cool. Yeah.

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I think that was a nice little time, you know.

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Yeah, absolutely, Well, we had an episode to talk about,

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so let's talk about some of our favorite moments. Wayne,

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anything for you?

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Well, I think we mentioned so many of them. I like,

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my favorite moment's beginning to end. Really this episode. I

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can't stress how much I really really liked this episode

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that it's going to be hard to top it on

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this this season. So we'll just have to wait and

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see if this continues to be my favorite. But I

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do want to point out we mentioned it earlier. The

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score of the sas so well done. And I remember

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when we were talking about part one we mentioned that

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the composer brought in some little subtle elements of James Horner.

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They weren't subtle in this episode, No, they were. They

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were very very strong. I mean, I got so much,

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you know, it's it felt so much like Star Trek two.

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Yep.

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And at parts I'm and I'm pretty sure I even

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heard an anvil.

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Oh yeah, you did. I think I did too. So

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you know, as we know, James Warner was the master

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of action music, and you can clearly hear that being

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honored in this episode without question.

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Man, Oh yeah, and it's it rightfully showed too, because

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I mean I could see him score if he was

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still alive scoring this episode. This seems like something that

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is right up his alley, you know, the whole Aliens

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type of style feel that they were getting. So bringing

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just a little bit of his style into the score,

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I think was a perfect homage to the late composer.

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I completely agree. And for me, I mean, there are

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so many moments in this episode that I absolutely love.

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You know, we we've talked about so many. I can't

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pick my favorite because there are just so many good

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ones for this entire episode, so many good character moments

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that it is really hard to pick one, to be

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honest with you, So I'm gonna be with you. I'm

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seeing this whole episode. It was fantastic.

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He was Watch it, everybody, just go and watch it.

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I think you'll be very satisfied with it.

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You really will. It's star Trek at its best, or

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about it. So if you were one of these characters, well, well,

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hold on, which character do you think shined the most.

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I've already given mine away and I'm going to keep that.

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It is Eric Ortegis. What about you?

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Well, you had a good choice. It was really hard

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between the two because they both shined. Every character shined

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in this episode. But I chose Alan because I think

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I mentioned before, I think her character benefited the most

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from this episode, from the story that we got. You know,

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she gets that return to the Goren captivity that she

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was so terrified of and that she you know, she

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was dreading it, and she has to deal with all

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those horrible memories so quick and yeah, you know, you know,

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it's like I said, it's very obviously she's got PTSD

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from it. She suffers from it. Horribly, but this time

467
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she she overcomes that, overcomes that shock and that fear

468
00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:54.079
and helps save everyone, pull everyone together, save everyone, get

469
00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:57.880
in and save not only the landing party, but they

470
00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:03.240
save the colonists. Very very satisfying. I don't know exactly

471
00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:05.680
call it an ending to that bit of the storyline,

472
00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:07.960
but because I said, I don't think the Bourne storyline's

473
00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:13.680
quite over with yet. But she benefited so much from that.

474
00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:17.759
I think, And that's a really good pick. She would

475
00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:19.640
have been my second choice, but I just love Erica

476
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:22.359
so much in this one. But to go back to Lan,

477
00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.519
she really proved here she would be an amazing number

478
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:27.519
one on a ship.

479
00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:28.799
Yeah, I thought that too.

480
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:33.960
She led that party and helped that party survive. If

481
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:35.440
it wasn't for her, I don't think they would have

482
00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:38.039
made it. No, she proved what a leader she was

483
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:40.519
right there. And you're right, she's in a situation that

484
00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:44.000
she experienced when she was a kid, and not a

485
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.440
good experience at all, a nightmare for crying out loud,

486
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:51.039
and she held it together and was able to get

487
00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:55.039
them off that ship in one piece. That's impressive. Yeah,

488
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:57.880
soick good pick. So if you could be any character

489
00:24:57.920 --> 00:24:59.519
in this episode, who would it be? Wayne?

490
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:03.680
And gosh, that's hard, That is really really hard because

491
00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:07.400
so many go through so many, so much terrible stuff.

492
00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:10.759
Well it's not long, not with all her trauma, and

493
00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:13.440
think not our take she lost half her hand and

494
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:17.319
bleeds sprightly to death, and not Mattel and her Gorn eggs.

495
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:22.039
I don't sound very fun. So I guess I'm gonna

496
00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:26.759
choose Captain Pike because only because he didn't come through

497
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.839
this too bad. You know, he got to go against

498
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:34.319
the starfleet orders, he got to fight Gorn, he saved everyone,

499
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.839
and his girlfriend didn't die. So yeah, he came through

500
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:38.319
pretty good.

501
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:42.440
I'll be him fair enough. I'm going with Palea because

502
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:46.359
I love her interactions with Scottie. But you know, she

503
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:49.559
doesn't have to face any of the Gorn. She's as

504
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:51.720
safe as she can be in a situation like that,

505
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:59.599
you know, on the Enterprise, So I definitely go with her. Yeah, So, Wayne,

506
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:02.200
I didn't catch any because I was so into this episode.

507
00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.480
Any Easter eggs in this episode.

508
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:05.880
There weren't very many of them. That's probably why you

509
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:08.319
didn't catch very many. I've only found a few, and

510
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:10.039
some of them I want to call East Eggs. But

511
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:13.359
let's I want to talk about the title sequence to

512
00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:16.400
start off. You know, we got season three. We got

513
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:19.880
some changes to that new opening credit sequence that I

514
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.039
really liked, and I mentioned that Martin Quinn's name has

515
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.000
been added to the main cast to our surprise, but

516
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:29.039
there were several new visual effects sequences to it. We

517
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:31.880
got a shot of a Klingon D Southern battle cruiser

518
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.640
coming out to chase the Enterprise. I like that shot.

519
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:40.039
I thought that was a fantastic addition. We got that

520
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.599
shot of the shuttlecraft leaguing ship, and we got that

521
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.400
beautifully shot of Starbase one from from the next episode

522
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.440
with the fleet of the Federation ships floating over. So

523
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.920
nice little update to the title sequence. Makes me wonder

524
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:54.440
if they'll do another one next season.

525
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:56.359
So are they Are they doing the lower deck thing?

526
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:57.400
They're adding things?

527
00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:59.359
I think they are. That's what I like. That's exactly

528
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:00.319
what I was thinking too.

529
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.319
Yeah. I like that they do that, you know, to

530
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:05.640
keep us looking and watching it instead of skipping over,

531
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:08.400
which I would never skip over that anyway. But it's

532
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:10.000
kind of cool that they're doing that just to keep

533
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:11.079
us on our toes.

534
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:14.880
I like that. Yeah, And Another new addition is we've

535
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:18.599
got a brand new enterprise engineering lap that makes us debut.

536
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:21.480
I don't know if you notice, but there's water running

537
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.680
underneath that floor. Yeah, that water is coming directly from

538
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:28.759
cetacean ops, which is the first time we've ever seen

539
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.839
anything like that on live action. We didn't get see

540
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:35.400
any of the crew members at it yet, but I gotta

541
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:37.880
I gotta believe that they're going to be coming. Why

542
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:39.519
put that there if you're not going to use it.

543
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:41.799
Oh yeah, You're not spending that much money on a

544
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:43.759
FET not to use it, right right.

545
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.079
So now, one of the few easter eggs that I

546
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.200
did notice, and this is one of those blink to

547
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.880
miss it, that scene where Pike and April are talking,

548
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.519
there is a starfleet map of the the Gorn. Hegimony

549
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.440
behind them shows a few little familiar locations. You see

550
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:05.599
star based deep space two. You see Settus that's the

551
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:08.359
planet where Kirk fought the Gorn in the episode Arena,

552
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:12.799
And you also see the planet Kessick, that is the

553
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:16.480
birthplace of the Voyager's chief engineer, Blanas Taurus.

554
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:17.279
Oh cool.

555
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.920
And the only other thing I saw was if you'll

556
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.000
notice those red isolation suits that Spock and Chapel are wearing.

557
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:27.960
Those are most definitely updated versions of the suits from

558
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:32.359
the original series that they wore in episodes like the

559
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:38.319
Naked Time whenever they were dealing with pathogens and viruses.

560
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:44.279
All right, that's it, good catches. I didn't catch any

561
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:44.519
of those.

562
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:45.440
There wasn't much.

563
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:47.160
No, clearly not.

564
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:49.160
I gotta tell you. I think there was just so

565
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:51.319
much going on in this episode that they really didn't

566
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.119
have time to squeeze on THETT too many easter eggs.

567
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:54.720
They had a story to deal with.

568
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:59.200
Yeah, this is very, very true. All right, Well, let's

569
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:01.839
take a break and when we come back, we'll start

570
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:05.559
talking about season three, episode two of Strange New Worlds.

571
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.519
Welcome back, everybody to phaser that it's done. Where Wayne

572
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.359
and I are continuing our discussion of Strange New world

573
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:19.039
Season three, let's talk about episode two, which aired the

574
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:23.480
same night. So this one is a much lighter tone,

575
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:28.000
comedic relief from the heavy series that we got of

576
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:30.160
the season opener, and we really needed it.

577
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:30.920
We needed that.

578
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.079
Yeah, yes, needed that break. So Wayne, give us a

579
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:35.880
recap of this episode.

580
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.519
Three months later, while the Enterprise is doc for repairs

581
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.960
at Starbase One. The crew are taking some much needed

582
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.240
r and r and preparing for the celebrations of the

583
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:50.880
Federation's one hundredth anniversary. Spock is anticipating Nur's Christine Chappel's return,

584
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.680
but what he didn't expect is for her to return

585
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:58.599
in a relationship with doctor Roger Corby. Then Spock wakes

586
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:01.200
up in a new reality where every things change and

587
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:04.200
he not only is in a relationship with Christine, but

588
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:08.640
is preparing to marry her. Everything seems just right, except

589
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:12.920
for one thing, the mysterious wedding planner that may have

590
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.920
a more sinister origin than they are led to believe.

591
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:19.039
A lot of stuff happening in this episode, and I

592
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.640
know we're going to get to some of the humor

593
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:24.960
of this episode, But Wayne, I think you and I

594
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:30.559
in our recap last episode, we talked about what we

595
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.119
thought was going to happen in the future, and I

596
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:33.799
think that kind of this came up for us, didn't

597
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.880
it that we were wondering about this Spock Chapel relationship

598
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.960
of when uh, doctor Corby was going to be introduced,

599
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:40.359
did we not?

600
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.599
Yeah, we were, because you know we've had this, you know,

601
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.160
on and off again relationship and we know where it

602
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:48.759
has to go.

603
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:49.400
Yep.

604
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:51.759
So we were we were talking about that. We thought that,

605
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:55.000
you know, this would be the end of that storyline.

606
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.000
This season would be the end of that storyline, and

607
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.960
would you know, finally see the conclusion of the old

608
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:05.279
spot chapel uh with with the introduction of Corby.

609
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:06.119
Yeah.

610
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.480
And I think I think we were absolutely right. Yeah

611
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:09.240
kind of looks at it.

612
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:13.279
Yeah, absolutely, And I'm telling you this episode was so weird,

613
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:18.160
but it was so good that when when we went

614
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:20.400
into that well, first off, when it opens up and he's,

615
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.440
you know, being taught how to dance by Leon. I

616
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.759
love that scene. By the way, I love the relationship

617
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.240
between the two of them throughout this entire episode because

618
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:30.799
I don't think we really got to explore a lot

619
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:33.119
of that between these two characters, and I thought that

620
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:38.880
was really well done to focus on that. But so

621
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.000
you really didn't know where you were at in the story.

622
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.880
You just thought you were just you know, it was

623
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:47.440
going to be what Federation Day and Spock was gonna

624
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:49.000
you know, they were all gonna be hosting it and

625
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.559
you know those kind of things. But then the wedding

626
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:57.640
planner shows up, so there was a scene where Spock

627
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.720
was in his quarters and you so him appeared in

628
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:03.480
the window behind him. Yeah. I don't know if you

629
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.920
caught that or not, but it happened so fast that

630
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:07.680
he appears in the window outside.

631
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:09.920
I did in the first time. I did this second time.

632
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.599
Though, Yeah, yeah, sure, Like so you're you're thinking, did

633
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:14.119
I just see what I think? I said, What's what

634
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.440
the hell is going on? And then when you know,

635
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.279
because he was the bartender at first and talks to

636
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.319
Spock about that, and the spot goes to bed and

637
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:27.000
then wakes up, and then we're in this different reality,

638
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:29.960
and then you're really going, what the hell is going on?

639
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.039
But you knew something was up with the wedding planner.

640
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:36.160
Here, well, yeah, because everyone seems to be seeing him differently.

641
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:40.000
Nobody sees him as the same type of person. Pike

642
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.000
was seeing him as an Andrian, and I think Spock

643
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.359
saw him as a Vulcan. And yeah, you were like,

644
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.599
what the heck is going on with this character? But

645
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:48.359
I never expected to go the direction that was it

646
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:48.920
did go on.

647
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.160
Not at all. I I had the back of my mind,

648
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:53.880
I was like, are they going to are they doing

649
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.240
what I think they're doing. But then I let it

650
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:57.519
go because it just the episode got weird and just

651
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:59.680
funny that I was just like, Okay, this is this

652
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.880
is a fun episode and I'm enjoying it. Yeah, because

653
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:05.519
again we really needed it from that last episode. But

654
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.079
there are some really good moments in here. One of

655
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.759
the ones I actually think it's hysterical is when Pike

656
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.720
and Patella were having that really sweet moment together and

657
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.920
basically Pike is asking her, you know, to be with him,

658
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.440
and then she basically jokes saying that you know, you're

659
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.599
gonna have to move in with me on my ship

660
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.960
and he said where we're gonna put all your hair products?

661
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.119
Yeah, that made me laugh.

662
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:30.279
That was fantastic.

663
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.680
Oh there were there were so many great great moments. See.

664
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:41.960
I love the banter between Number one and the Benga

665
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.799
and that new nurse. I thought that scene was so well,

666
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:48.160
I mean it really you don't see Number One, you know,

667
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:52.000
joking around or being that open with with characters anymore.

668
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.720
She seems to be a lot more relaxed now, not

669
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.359
that that cold character that we saw when they first started.

670
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.519
So I like that. I like that new version of her.

671
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.519
Yeah, and did they give a name to that new character,

672
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:03.559
because obviously he joined the.

673
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:05.960
Enterprise, not in this episode, but cheat he does have

674
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:07.200
a name. It'll be coming up later.

675
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:10.239
Okay, good deal. I like, I liked his character. He

676
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:13.159
had that spark right away. Yeah, and I was like,

677
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:14.599
I was like, he's gonna fit in nicely. But I

678
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:16.679
didn't think about that he was going to become part

679
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.519
of the crew and then then it happened. Yeah.

680
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.159
They seem to be peppering the series this season with

681
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.960
new secondary characters, which I liked. I mean, all of

682
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:29.320
the other Star Trek shows did have a secondary cast.

683
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:29.880
Yep.

684
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.440
It's it's great to see that the same thing happen,

685
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:33.199
you know with this.

686
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:38.440
Yeah. So another funny moment that I thought was hysterical

687
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:41.760
is when Spock obviously goes to the transporter room to

688
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:46.000
wait on Chapel being you know, beamed on board, and

689
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:51.480
then obviously Corby appears next to her, and Spock doesn't

690
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:53.360
think it, doesn't realize at the moment what's going on

691
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.239
with their other crew are kind of like giving those

692
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.840
side glances to one another, like uh, is this what

693
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:02.039
we think it is? But the one that got me

694
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:06.519
that I busted out laughing and applauded with Scotty when

695
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.679
uh we realized at that moment what was going on,

696
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.639
and Scotty gives that really weird look like, oh god,

697
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.199
this is really happening. Dude, I lost it.

698
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:19.679
Oh yeah, that was great.

699
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.760
Yeah it Spock was so kind of like, uh, what's

700
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:24.360
happening here?

701
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.440
Well, yeah, just in any unperfect Spock tradition.

702
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:32.039
Yeah, that was really well done, the entire scene because

703
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.320
it was very awkward. The character is kind of awkward

704
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.880
to one another because they needed to be, because it

705
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.280
was a situation that like, if we were caught into that,

706
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.639
we'd be kind of like, uh, this is very uncomfortable.

707
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:46.960
And one thing I really liked is, you know, talking

708
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.480
about secondary characters and stuff. I got the introduction to

709
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:53.800
uh Ortegus's brother Beto, and that little scene in the

710
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.960
hallway with with her and and him and and you

711
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.079
her a. There's a lot of banter there too, a

712
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:04.320
lot of fun, fun dialogue. I think we were seeing

713
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:05.760
the beginning of a little bit of a storyline for

714
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.519
the season where he's going to go. I'm not sure,

715
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:13.239
but I've got some some theories I'll bring up later

716
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.719
on where maybe that character is planning on going this season.

717
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.480
I'm curious to hear these because I didn't really put

718
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:22.199
any thought of that, but I agree with you there's

719
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.360
definitely something going on there. They wouldn't have done what

720
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.960
they did so, but I'm curious to hear what you

721
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:28.440
have to say.

722
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.840
Well, here here, I'll just I'll just say right here.

723
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.400
And we talked. I mentioned this a little bit on

724
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:36.880
the looking forward thing that we did looking back our

725
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:42.400
last episode. They mentioned that that Beto is a documentarian.

726
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.199
You know, he's a filmmaker, and he's filming the centennial

727
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:50.199
celebration we have later on in this season. I think

728
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:51.960
it's about the sixth or seventh episode. We have an

729
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.480
episode called what is Starfleet? We were talking about what

730
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:59.559
that's about. I think, I think, and for all I know,

731
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:04.159
it could be this. What if that episode is exactly

732
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:06.960
as the episode that is so title is and it's

733
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.239
shown in documentary form.

734
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:09.719
Oh, that'd be incredible.

735
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.679
That's my theory of what that could be. But if anything,

736
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.079
I really do think that that episode is going to

737
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:17.599
feature him that character.

738
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:19.800
That would be a really good idea. I'm gonna be

739
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.320
disappointed now if that episode is not that way, and

740
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:27.280
it's your fault. That's brilliant. I hope that's I hope

741
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:29.440
that's true because I think that is a really unique way.

742
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.800
And you know, we talked about what we expect later

743
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.280
on and they have those unique bottle episodes, and that

744
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.000
could be a very unique one.

745
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.199
It could be. I mean, you know, we we saw

746
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.639
something last season that had never been tried in Star Trek,

747
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.920
and this could be their new thing that they're trying.

748
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:47.519
It's never been done in Star Trek, and I think

749
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:48.199
I'd like that.

750
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.519
Yeah, which, by the way, Spot kind of alludes to

751
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:54.519
that in this episode about we were we were, we

752
00:37:54.519 --> 00:38:00.920
were fitting you sure were the talk about it and more.

753
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:01.719
Please let's move on.

754
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:07.239
Well, let's let's talk about the big thing. Let's do

755
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.400
it in the room big thing, because it's gonna it's

756
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:12.599
got to be talked about. We've got to discuss this.

757
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.239
Who's the wedding planner? Who was that?

758
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.880
So it has to be it has to be. You

759
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:24.679
pronounce his name? Is it tree Land, Trelanni, It's tru Lane,

760
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:25.320
tru Lane.

761
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:25.880
True.

762
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:27.440
I think that's who it is. It has to be.

763
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.800
They did not say his name in this entire episode.

764
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.679
We don't know but it has to be. And then Wayne,

765
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:37.039
when you find out at the end who his father is,

766
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:38.800
I about fell out of my chair.

767
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:44.000
Well, I mean, okay, really there are you're you're missing

768
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:46.199
a character to there. There are three options that who

769
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:49.599
this character could be, and obviously the most most obvious

770
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.079
is Trulaine. Yeah, once after we get done discussing this,

771
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:54.480
I'll tell you the true answer, because there is a

772
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.920
true answer to this. There is, Okay, there is, but

773
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.400
that that's the obvious one. He's true Lan because he

774
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.239
acts like him, He kind of dresses like him. He

775
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:05.840
uses the same phrases, you know, the way he says

776
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.480
tally ho and greetings and felicitations. You know, that was

777
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:12.400
the same thing that that Churlaine did. But then also

778
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.559
when his father appears and we all knew who his

779
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:17.000
father is.

780
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:19.280
I mean, you can you can notice that you recognize

781
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:19.960
the voice right away.

782
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:23.480
So yeah, let's just let's just say it though as

783
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.199
weation there, you know, spoiler alert big time. Okay, go

784
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:26.599
go see this.

785
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:27.800
It's Q.

786
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.079
Okay, it's John Delancy, It's Q. And this so this

787
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.599
is Q's son. Well, Q has a son, he does

788
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.360
h Q Junior from we saw him in Star Trek Voyager.

789
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:43.320
So option number two is this his character? Is this

790
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:47.960
that that Q? You know this the Q junior Q

791
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:49.920
two whatever you want to call it. After the episode

792
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:51.440
was called Q two if you ever want to watch

793
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.119
that Voyager. So that's option two. But then there's option three.

794
00:39:54.840 --> 00:40:00.280
They're both or he's both with maybe Q junior was Trulane. Yeah,

795
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.719
and they're one in the same character, all right, so

796
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:05.679
you know, and they left that open for everybody. Think. Now,

797
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:07.639
like I said, there is an answer because the writer

798
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.679
should be the executive producers come out and said who

799
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:11.119
it is?

800
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:13.199
So what is the true answer? Let us know it

801
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:14.079
is Laine.

802
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:15.840
His father is cute.

803
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.920
Good. That's the way I like it. Because soon as

804
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.679
I heard John Delancy's voice, I'm like, holy crap.

805
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:25.800
Oh yeah, yeah, that was a huge surprise. I'm thank

806
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.440
you producers in Paramount for keeping that a secret because

807
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:29.599
I love that.

808
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:33.880
Yes, I'm glad that was kept very quiet and it

809
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.400
was a pleasant surprise for the fans, no doubt about it.

810
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:41.440
And I gotta tell you, Darby is awesome in this role.

811
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:42.360
Oh he's great.

812
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.960
He is fantastic. Now I know he's got that that

813
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.960
that quirkiness about him that in his dead that is

814
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.519
brilliant because he does a lot of the same type

815
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.920
of characters throughout his career in film, but it's always

816
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:56.679
done so well.

817
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:57.159
Mhm.

818
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.760
And I can see why they casted him this because

819
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:04.400
it was absolutely perfect and spot on.

820
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:08.800
Yeah, yeah, I can't. He's a perfect choice for this character.

821
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:10.039
I no doubt.

822
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:13.159
It's almost like when they were cast, when they were

823
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.880
writing this character, they already knew who they were going

824
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.079
to get because and then they might have to be

825
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:23.159
honest with you because it literally was written for Darby

826
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:23.960
it was.

827
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.639
It felt like that. Yeah, I think they probably did.

828
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.199
They They probably wrote it with the intention of having

829
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:30.480
him play the character.

830
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.400
Yeah, and every scene he was on with with scene

831
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:37.320
stealing because it was he was so good. And when

832
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.320
he popped up, I was looking forward to it because like, oh,

833
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:41.519
here we go again, and you knew you were going

834
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:45.000
to get gold from him, and you do every single time.

835
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:46.920
You do, And you know that that brings me to

836
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.280
the character that I think shines the most. I had

837
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:54.039
to choose him in this episode because you know, it's

838
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.559
it's such a fun character, yet there's just that menacing

839
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:01.360
undertones there and everything he's said. He just he brings

840
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:05.519
such light and fun to every scene with that menace,

841
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:10.039
which reminded me so much of Q absolutely did when

842
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:12.719
he did in the Next Generation. You know, it's it's

843
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:15.800
a real pity that I believe this is probably a

844
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.039
one off appearance. I don't people see this character again

845
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:19.679
because I would love to see him again. I love

846
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:23.519
to learn a little bit more. But you know, I'm

847
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.280
glad that they did this. I'm glad they brought this character.

848
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:28.039
This is one of the more wacky characters of the

849
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.760
original spheres if you really think about it, you know,

850
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:33.360
when it's it's hard to deal with these godlike characters.

851
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:37.199
And tying him finally solving that that what is a

852
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.559
thirty forty year old mystery of is Turlaine? Q? Is

853
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:44.880
Q Churlaine? They finally tied that in and solved it.

854
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.159
So thank you writers and producers.

855
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:48.880
For doing Thank you for wrapping it up finally for

856
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.599
us fans so that we can really enjoy all of it.

857
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:54.119
And yes, it's so good. The scene that he had

858
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:57.320
where he kept Kirby at bay because Kirby obviously knew

859
00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.719
what was going on, so he was the scene where

860
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.440
he was get him to taste the taste the food

861
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:05.920
and the mother's flowers, and like how he kept giving

862
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.079
like that that look to Corby like keep your butt

863
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.840
back there, stay away, and kept giving him something to.

864
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.519
Do when he's dressed as one of the brides made

865
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:18.679
with that flower thing. It said that that that made

866
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:19.920
me laugh that way.

867
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:21.440
Yeah, I think he was said he made me the

868
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:28.639
maid of honor, kind of like, oh, that was so good,

869
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.679
m m. But then you get the u. Spock finally

870
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:34.360
gets snapped out of it because he punches Corby and

871
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:40.039
immediately he realizes what's going on, and kind of foreshadowing here,

872
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:44.400
I think they kind of talk about, you know if basically,

873
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.800
if you know, like punching somebody would snap them out

874
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:51.440
of it, but also some kind of highly emotional situation

875
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.039
would snap them out of it too, which was kind

876
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.400
of foreshadowing of what how he snapped Chap a lot.

877
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.760
I'm sorry, I I when you've mentioned the punching someone.

878
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.239
I was thinking of the scene between Spock and Kirk

879
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:06.920
the bridge where he wants him to punch.

880
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:08.159
It.

881
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.800
I love that, Yes, that.

882
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:14.400
Was really good, but I love the scene when he

883
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:17.440
gave it an amazing speech to Chapel when they were

884
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:22.239
about ready to get married, and that was beautiful and

885
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.599
even leon says it says that speech was incredible.

886
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.159
I was really impressed with that in the middle of

887
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:32.159
a very lighthearted episode. That was a real beautiful, dramatic

888
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:36.719
moment and very very well written and very well performed.

889
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:40.480
It Almost it didn't almost it did. It broke your

890
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:43.519
heart for Spot because you know he's half fulkn and

891
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:47.800
we know he's half human, but he suppresses those emotions.

892
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.559
And in that situation, I think he finally realized he

893
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:56.360
has to let Chapel go and you know, Spock and

894
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.639
you know that, like we were used to him just

895
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.079
by oh, you know whatever, it's a human emotion, so

896
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:05.920
it's gonna let it fly. But here you could see

897
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:10.639
that in the performance that his heart was breaking, but

898
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:13.119
he had to hold on and keep it at bay.

899
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:19.480
Yeah. I've just I got to mention Ethan Peck's performance,

900
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:23.199
not just in this episode, but in every episode leading

901
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:27.159
up to this. He has done an incredible job of

902
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.679
bringing Spock to life, this new version of him. Yes,

903
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:35.159
you know, very reminiscent of Leonard Nimoy. He really honors

904
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:40.360
Meimoy with his performance this episode. You can see him

905
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.000
having that inner battle between the Bulkan and the human

906
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.079
side of him, and many of the scenes. It was

907
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:51.719
just incredibly well performed. And every episode I see him,

908
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:54.480
I love him as spot more than more in I

909
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:56.119
just think he's so phenomenally good.

910
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.519
And the fact that he had to team up with

911
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:02.440
Corby yeah to fix this just made it even harder

912
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:04.920
for a buck. I'm like, of course, fuck man, this

913
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:06.079
is vicious.

914
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:11.039
Yeah, but well written well, that was that was brilliant

915
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:13.679
having to put the two of them together, it really was.

916
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.920
So that leads me to favorite moments of this episode, Wayne,

917
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:20.400
what do you got? Because there again, there's so many.

918
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.559
Yeah, I mean we're two episodes in and we've got

919
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:28.079
two phenomenally good episodes. There are a lot of of

920
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.360
moments that I really like. And but I think one

921
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:34.480
of them I I just mentioned in that little banter

922
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:39.639
on the bridge between Kirk and U and Spock and

923
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.320
you know, the whole wine choice choice and him you know,

924
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.800
putting down the wine and and and you know, trying

925
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:49.159
to get him to punch him. Just it was funny.

926
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:53.840
But I love that scene. I loved the scene with

927
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:59.400
with Number one and and and the Sick Bay. It's

928
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.440
so hard to can't choose because there's just too many.

929
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.239
I really, I really liked this episode and now I'm

930
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:06.920
now I don't know which if this is my favorite,

931
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:08.880
VI Jimny is my favorite. Oh, this is going to

932
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.079
be difficult this season. I hope they can continue to

933
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:13.440
deliver episodes like this because they're.

934
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.119
Telling you we've got eight more to go. And if

935
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.679
they can keep this quality up, oh my god, are

936
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:18.960
we intrigued for an amazing season?

937
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:19.960
Yeah?

938
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.719
For me, there's just so many. But I absolutely loved

939
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.000
Lean and Spock dancing, especially there towards the end when

940
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.880
we got the Jitterbug. I love good good choice of

941
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:35.360
song too, by the way, I love that choice. But yeah,

942
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.280
Leon basically saying, you know, you know, them going out

943
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:43.039
and dancing, so that that scene, that relationship between the

944
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:44.360
two and it's not a relationship, but you know what

945
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:47.000
I mean, they're friends, but getting to see that at

946
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.920
least come to fruition after the beginning of the episode,

947
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.559
getting to see them dance. He wasn't gonna dance with Chapel,

948
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.840
He's dancing with her, so none of that went to waste.

949
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.400
So I just loved the relationship between these two characters

950
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.840
throughout the entire episode, because it was almost funny enough.

951
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:05.360
It's lean he's leaning on because in a situation like this,

952
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:08.320
that's not someone you would typically pick to lean on,

953
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.159
I wouldn't think, but he does, and she does it

954
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:16.159
so well for him. Yeah, and she realizes that Spock

955
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:19.079
needs that, even though she doesn't come out and say it,

956
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:24.119
she knows Spock needs somebody to lean on and she's

957
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.239
perfect for it. Man, And I just why, I just

958
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:27.920
love that scene between the two others.

959
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.079
Yeah, I'm glad you broy that because I forgot all

960
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.159
about the end scene, everything that took place after after

961
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.280
Charlene and I'm just gonna call him that left the

962
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:42.559
whole party, you know that, the celebration of the Federation's

963
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:46.840
one hundredth and the dialogue, the dancing, the music choices.

964
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:51.199
That was a wonderful ending to the episode, a fun

965
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.360
You just got to see the characters put their hair

966
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:58.599
down and just just you know, enjoy themselves. Great, great

967
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.960
little in cap for that episode. I loved all of that.

968
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:04.840
Yeah, and let's let's backtrack a little bit. What we

969
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.000
kind of mentioned in the first episode that another character

970
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:09.000
is gonna get PTSD.

971
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:10.079
Oh yeah, can't.

972
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.920
Clearly it's Eric Erica Ortegas who has that vision of

973
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.760
a Gorn in the window as she's you know, punching

974
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.079
the the the bag. So clearly there's a lot of

975
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.079
tension and stress that we're going to see from her

976
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:26.639
over this season. So you definitely can see that story

977
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:27.159
art coming.

978
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.000
Yeah, and that's why I said that. I don't think

979
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:33.360
we're finished completely finished with the Gorrein storyline. I don't

980
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:37.760
know if we'll see the actual Gorn again, you know,

981
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:40.519
but we're going to get this. We're going to get

982
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:43.719
this this trauma that she has from a result of

983
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:46.920
that episode, and it's definitely going to be a major

984
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.199
point this season somewhere along.

985
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:51.719
W And I know there's no point in asking this

986
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.320
question which characters shine the most because we both already

987
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:57.280
said it, But just to go back, Darby does a

988
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:03.840
fantastic job as amazing. Every scene he's in is gold.

989
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:06.800
You just you just cannot wait till the next time

990
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:08.760
he's on screen because he's so good.

991
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:14.480
Yeah, I agree, And he stole it's a Spock episode,

992
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:15.559
but he stole that.

993
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.920
She stole it from him, he did, He stole the show. Sorry,

994
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:21.280
the rest of the cast, you did phenomenal, Yes, but

995
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:26.920
this episode he really is. Yeah, all right, Wayne, if

996
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:28.880
you could be any character in this episode, who would

997
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.400
it be? And why?

998
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:34.239
Oh man, I'm gonna say doctor Corby.

999
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:35.760
Damn, you're talking mine.

1000
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:38.199
I mean, he's he's such a and I know why

1001
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:41.639
we're I think we're both having Yeah, he's such a lucky,

1002
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:44.239
lucky person. You know, he's got that relationship with with

1003
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:47.880
the lovely Christine Chapel. You know, I will add on

1004
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.800
that I'm not crazy about his ultimate fate, uh that

1005
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:53.039
you know if if everybody remembers, he ends up nearly

1006
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:56.239
freezing to death and having his mind transferred into an

1007
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.800
android body. But then after I say that, you know

1008
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:02.840
about that last part, it didn't go so badly for

1009
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:05.920
Jean luc Picard, so maybe you know.

1010
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:10.239
This is true. But I mean, yeah, I mean I

1011
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.079
want to be doctor Corby just for the simple reason

1012
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.199
that he's on Christine's arm a lot. Yeah, but you know,

1013
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:20.159
he does go through a tough time here in this episode.

1014
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.639
There's there's a lot of anguish he has to deal with,

1015
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:27.239
and you know, first of all, he knows Spock's history

1016
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:31.199
with Christine, and he has to be the one to

1017
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.199
approach Spot to make him realize that this is not right.

1018
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:38.119
This is not the reality that we're in and this

1019
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:40.000
is wrong. You need to wake up and realize that.

1020
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.920
And he obviously has to take a bunch for that

1021
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.880
to happen. Yeah, you know, but still I would I

1022
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:50.880
would be doctor Corby question. All right, well, let's talk

1023
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.719
about some easter eggs. We already gave one of the

1024
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:56.320
big ones away John Delancy obviously as the voice of

1025
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:59.639
Darby's dad playing c And I believe we've got a

1026
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:03.039
line in here to count trible. Then when we're talking

1027
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:04.519
about so I know we got that on worlth we

1028
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:05.079
got one.

1029
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.239
There were a few more in this episode. They had

1030
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.119
a little more fund so they were able to squeeze

1031
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:13.079
some interesting stuff from there. Spock mentions to aln that

1032
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:16.960
Balcans do not dance. Well, he's definitely not wrong, because

1033
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:19.800
Tuak said exactly the same thing to Neelix in the

1034
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:24.559
Star Trek Voyager episode Homestead. Just for the record, since

1035
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:26.840
it wasn't actually set in this episode, we mentioned it

1036
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:31.599
earlier that new nurse's his name is insignt Dana Gamble

1037
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:36.599
that's been revealed because it's very important in a later episode.

1038
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.639
Have no idea what, but it is very important. So

1039
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:44.239
remember that name. Right when we see Pike in his quarters,

1040
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.079
we also see that Pike apparently has one of Captain

1041
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.119
Picard's famous tea glasses setting on his table right behind

1042
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.639
his own coffee mug. I don't know how he got it,

1043
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:55.239
must be a very famous brand back in the twenty

1044
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:56.559
third and twenty fourth century.

1045
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:57.000
Yep.

1046
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:01.840
Now, during that dan sequence, which I got to mention,

1047
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:04.639
I love the visual effects during that whole dance sequence

1048
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:07.199
in the background, and of course I'm staring at the

1049
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.920
background trying to pick out anything, and there was some nice,

1050
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:15.199
beautiful starships, but I also saw a Crossfield class starship

1051
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:18.360
flying around. You know, that's the very same style of

1052
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:22.639
starship that the US IS Discovery was. Now this is

1053
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.000
this is a fun one. This isn't exactly an Easter egg,

1054
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.000
but Corby mentions that the wedding planner could wish them

1055
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.480
all into the cornfield. I love that reference. Most of

1056
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:34.119
us old TV viewers you know of our age, recognized

1057
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:36.960
that reference. But if you don't know it's from an

1058
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.280
episode of the Twilight Zone callity. It's a good life

1059
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:42.000
that started a Billy mooe. Great episode, one of the

1060
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:46.039
best of the series. I also spotted two Bullions attending

1061
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.679
the wedding when he wasn't hard to spot. They you know,

1062
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:50.760
had the camera right on him. I think this is

1063
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.000
the first time we see the Bullions in this time

1064
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.599
frame because but they were very, very common during the

1065
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:59.719
next Generations time. In fact, the Enterprises the Enterprise, D's

1066
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:03.320
barber was a Bullian and this was I this blew

1067
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:06.000
my mind when I saw this, that three r armed

1068
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:09.440
alien bartender at the end that Pike invites onto the Enterprise.

1069
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:13.599
That's an Indosian. That is the same race that Eric's

1070
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:17.880
was from Star Trek the animated series. This is the

1071
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:21.639
now the the Udosians had appeared on Lower Decks and

1072
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.559
they appeared on Prodigy, but this is the first time

1073
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:28.360
that we've actually seen this alien in live action. I

1074
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:30.920
love that. I'm so glad that they're able to bring

1075
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:33.719
that a little bit from the animated series into the

1076
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:34.679
whole Star Trek lore.

1077
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:37.360
So is she coming to the ship because Pike advice.

1078
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:39.960
Yes, yes she is. There's another one of the secondary

1079
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:44.400
casts that they're making bigger and Bigger, and then finally

1080
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:48.559
I want to add that, well, this is Beto's first

1081
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:51.880
full appearance on the series. He's not a new character

1082
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:56.039
to the mythology. His character plays a major part in

1083
00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:59.159
the Strange New World's novel Towards the Night, which was

1084
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.599
written by Swallow and it was published earlier this year.

1085
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:07.079
It's a great book. James Swallow wrote two episodes of

1086
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.480
Star Trek Voyager one and Memorial, and he also wrote

1087
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:14.519
some Damn Good Doctor Who audios for Big Fetish Very good.

1088
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:18.519
So what are we seeing in the trailer for this

1089
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:24.239
coming week? The episode is called Shuttle to CONFORI, what

1090
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:27.920
I'm getting out of it is it's takes him into

1091
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:32.679
Klingon space looking to find a rare cure for Tell.

1092
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:36.559
So one of the things again you and I talked

1093
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:39.920
about the last episode of what we thought was gonna

1094
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:42.199
happen in the future. I think it's going to come

1095
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:47.519
to fruition in this one because doctor Mimbinga goes on

1096
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:50.760
this mission to clean on space, and you know where

1097
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:53.159
that's going to lead because of what we saw with

1098
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.760
the close of War. I think we're gonna finally get

1099
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:00.360
some of that that we have left on the table

1100
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.519
somewhere that we've not you know, got to yet.

1101
00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:06.079
I think I think you're right. And yeah, we did

1102
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:08.920
mention that, and we were really hoping that they would

1103
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:11.519
wouldn't wait on that storyline and they'd bring it up

1104
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:13.360
sooner rather than later. And it looks like they are.

1105
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:17.960
I really do think that next episode could be ambing episode.

1106
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.000
And I think they're going to to bring that out.

1107
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.440
If they don't, they made a terrible mistake. They should.

1108
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.400
Yeah, absolutely, come on, it's perfect time to do it.

1109
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:28.239
Plus, I've never thought you'd hear me say this, but

1110
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:29.960
I'm kind of glad to see the Kling arms again.

1111
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:33.800
You know. I so much has happened in the first

1112
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:37.440
two episodes that I'm going to put this out there.

1113
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:41.480
I think something bad is going to happen at the

1114
00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:44.920
end of this third episode to the C I really do.

1115
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:50.320
Oh, you could be right. I mean, we've we've got

1116
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:53.519
little tastes of the storyline for the season. Because we

1117
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:57.119
know there's always a storyline for the season, we've got

1118
00:56:57.159 --> 00:57:00.760
little taste so far in these first two episodes. I

1119
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:03.960
think it's probably ready for us to get hit by

1120
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:04.519
something big.

1121
00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:07.760
Yeah, you're right, You're right. So what do we think

1122
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:09.639
is going to happen the rest of the season. I

1123
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:11.840
know we're gonna get some fun bottle episodes obviously, and

1124
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:14.760
I'm super excited about the one you mentioned if this

1125
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:18.360
is so, which I hope comes true. So any anything

1126
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:20.360
that you think you said, you think the Gorn is

1127
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:23.920
not gone yet, so we're probably But I don't think

1128
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:25.599
they're going to end the season with the Gorn again,

1129
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:27.280
something completely different.

1130
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:29.800
I really don't. I mean, the Gorn is there their

1131
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:31.679
sleep right now. I don't think we're going to see

1132
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:35.440
the Gorn as an enemy again, but we're going to

1133
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:39.679
see the Gorn as in the trauma that that Ortegas

1134
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:43.320
has the mental things, you know, maybe maybe visions and

1135
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.760
flashes of them in her own mind. That's that that bit.

1136
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:50.519
It's sort of like an epilogue to the Hegemity storyline

1137
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.440
with her, and you know, it's I don't know which

1138
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:55.480
episode is going to be, I don't, I don't know,

1139
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:58.119
but I really do think they're going to have an

1140
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:00.639
episode that Ortegas is is going to It's going to

1141
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:02.519
center on her, and it's going to be about that.

1142
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:04.320
And I don't think they'll wait too long for all.

1143
00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.840
I know it could be episode four, but yeah, we've

1144
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.400
got that coming up. We've got the Murder Mystery episode

1145
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.599
coming up, which I'm I'm looking forward to that one too.

1146
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:16.199
That that looks like that could be another fun episode.

1147
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:19.079
It's anything like like this one, I'm going to enjoy it.

1148
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:21.679
What if they be bringing back Trelon and some of

1149
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:23.719
that's because of him? What if they do that Wayne,

1150
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:25.440
because we say this might be one off with him,

1151
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:26.159
but you never.

1152
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:28.719
Know, it could be, It could be We don't know.

1153
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:30.599
They're keeping a lot of things secret, and I'm glad

1154
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:35.280
they are. I'm glad they are. I loved the surprise

1155
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:38.599
you know this this episode, so hopefully they got a

1156
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:39.719
lot more of those coming up.

1157
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:42.400
Yeah. I remember when I was getting on episode two,

1158
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:43.719
you said we're gonna have a lot to talk about

1159
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:45.159
and I didn't realize it at the time, but then

1160
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:46.679
when I got to the end of the episode, Oh,

1161
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:50.519
I see what Wayne's talking about. That talk about like,

1162
00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:55.920
oh wow, But two great, great episodes. Listeners, We are

1163
00:58:55.960 --> 00:59:00.239
off to a bang on season three. Cannot wait see

1164
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:03.239
what's in store for the next episode and beyond. We've

1165
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:05.559
only got eight episodes left because we got two right away.

1166
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:08.159
The good thing is we know it's going to end

1167
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.400
in season five, but we've got that means we've got

1168
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:12.679
two more seasons to go after this. Season four is

1169
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.840
already I believe in the can for the most part,

1170
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:18.880
so I know we're probably gonna get that sometime next year.

1171
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:19.800
A quick turnaround.

1172
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:21.960
Look at it this way if you're if you're a

1173
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.519
little depressed at the fact that it's ending in season five,

1174
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:28.000
just just think of this. We're not even halfway through

1175
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:28.679
the series yet.

1176
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:30.400
This is right, that's right. Look at it that way.

1177
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:32.719
It's good way to look at it. All right. Thanks

1178
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:35.119
listeners for joining us. What do you think is going

1179
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:37.679
to happen this season? What are your thoughts on the

1180
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:42.119
two episodes we just covered? Let us know. Wayne, as always,

1181
00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:44.320
thanks for joining me on the bridge. It's always a

1182
00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:47.119
fantastic time and talking to you about it.

1183
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:48.719
It's a lot of fun, all right.

1184
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.480
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1185
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