July 15, 2025

Phasers Set To Stun: Star Trek Beyond

Phasers Set To Stun: Star Trek Beyond
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Season 6 Phasers Set To Stun

On "Phasers Set To Stun," we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at television shows, animation, movies, and much more! On this episode, our crew reaches the end of the theatrically released films with the third and final film of the Kelvin Timeline, Star Trek Beyond!

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phaser Sets Tune, where

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we continue to show our love for everything Star Trek

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in this ongoing series from a film by podcast which

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focuses on every quadrant of the expanding universe of Trek

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by covering television, animation, movies, directors, and so much more.

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Plotting the course as always is your core track crew.

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I'm David Byrne, I'm Scott Hoffman, and I'm Wayne Whited.

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As we always do, read alert. If you haven't seen

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this film, please go do so and then come back

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to join us. We will be right here on the

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bridge waiting.

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Well.

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Gentlemen, we have finally hit the end of these cinematic

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films with the thirteenth Star Trek in twenty sixteenth Star

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Trek Beyond. It is the final film as of this

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podcast in the Calvin Timeline in the last of all

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the Star Trek films for now, directed by Justin Linn,

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a Fast and the Furious Fame while written by Simon

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Pegg and Doug Jong.

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Well before we get too far into.

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Deep space and start breaking this down, Scott tell our

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listeners what this film is all about.

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So we begin with a little drama in a negotiation

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with the new species where a seemingly insignificant artifact presents

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bigger problems for the Kelvin Kirks crew. This all happens

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with the crew at a crossroads. Prime Spock's death gives

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Kelvin Spock's second thoughts about continuing on the Enterprise. Kurt

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faces a similar decision, advances Vice Admiral Or continue exploring,

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as his birthday brings him one year older than his

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father ever got to be before his untimely death. This,

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combined with the routine of a five year mission, weighs

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on Kirk. Breaking the tension is a distress call from

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the edge of Federation space that turns into a trap.

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Enterprise is destroyed by a swarm attack and the crew

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is held hostage. Their key to survival is a new

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friend who holds the secret to the story's villain, a

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strangely a strange new character with oddly familiar ties to

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Starfleet's past. His plan was to destroy the Federation and

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an act of revenge for being left behind by Starfleet's

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march toward the future. It's original story engineered by Scotti

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and as you mentioned, Doug Young and Justin Lynn. But

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will the Kelvin timeline go beyond this trilogy? Let's discuss.

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Well. I don't know about that.

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I guess I think the answer is probably no, even

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though I keep hearing rumors of it, but it's pretty

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much been This is it for them, right.

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I think, so not going to get these guys back

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from that. I don't think so it's done.

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I don't either.

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Yeah, yeah, I agree.

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So, in my opinion, this is the weakest of the

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new films.

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Granted, it did okay.

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At the box office because it was like one hundred

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and eighty five million out of budget and ended up

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earning three hundred and forty three million, So I mean

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it did, it did well. But I'm curious what you

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guys think about it. Do you think this is the

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weakest of the Neu trilogy?

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No, I definitely don't.

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Yeah. I mean when I saw it in theaters, I

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remember being slightly confused more than anything, until I watched

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at home a couple of different times, which was a

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little off putting at first. I remember still having some

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my arms kind of crossed and folded, like sitting there

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in the seat because Into Darkness took some turns that

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I wish it hadn't taken. So I feel like that

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last left a big, kind of a bad taste in

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my mouth. But I want to like it a lot more

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because it's written by Simon Pegg yep, and I think

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subsequent watchings have made me appreciate it a little bit more.

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But I definitely don't think it's one that I want

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to keep coming back to to keep watching.

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Wayne, what about you? You seem to like it?

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Well, I don't think it's the weakest. I still think

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and a darkness is the weakness. It has a lot

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of problems, but and this film does too. It's not

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the best, It's nowhere near like two thousand and nines,

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But I don't think it's that bad of a film.

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I at least I at least left feeling like I

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watched something original, something something you know new to star

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Trek for sure, you know it does. I think the

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change of director helped. I think the change of writers

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really helped because I feel some of the dialogue is

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actually rather rather good, you know, much better than what

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it was in the last film. But there are a

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lot of problems. I think the film is a little

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little too flashy, little too bombastic, But to me, it

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feels like a typical away mission, more like an original

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series episode, just with bigger space battles and more fistfighting.

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I guess, yeah, I wasn't a big fan of the

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villain in this. I guess we kind of can discussed

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about con too in the last one, but just wasn't

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a big fan. And don't get me wrong, Heter just

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did a fantastic job, but I just I just didn't

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like the villain at all. He really just bothered me.

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I just feel like it didn't build up to where

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I wanted to go. I guess I liked the reveal

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that you know, he was the captain of it.

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Was it the Franklin? I believe he says Franklin, And

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I like that with that we find that out, But

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I still just like mah, I just felt the whole

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ending felt flat to me altogether.

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Well, yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right, and that's that's

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my biggest problem with the film itself is the villain.

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You know, it was so vague, but what what was

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his motive?

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I mean really there there really was anything at least

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told to us. You know, he hates Starfleet, that's one thing,

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But you know, why is he doing what he's doing?

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Why didn't you just just leave it all alone? You know,

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why does he need to kill everybody? I don't understand that.

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They really never made that very clear as to why

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he's doing what he's doing.

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I think it was just the revenge on Starfleet? Is

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that what you got out of that scut?

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Yeah? I mean the there's some interesting depth there in

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that when you finally get the reveal and you understand

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that it's Edison, who's someone who There are some similar

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notes to Zod in Man of Steel where it kind

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of felt like, you know, I was born and bred

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for war, and when that was left behind, the Federation

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moved forward, but it just kind of shoved me off

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onto some distant corner, and when my crew disappeared, they

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did nothing for me. Right, So I think there's some

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interesting depth there that I wish would have come sooner,

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which is the confusing part. Right, Like he starts as

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something that seems like a new species, a new person.

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And it's only until much much later we find out

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that he used to be part of what preceded the Federation.

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They're kind of an offshoot that they've appreciated the formation

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of Starfleet. I would have cared about his character in

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different ways if that had been introduced earlier. You see

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his like slow kind of I guess, revolving into more

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of a human form. I think it was kind of

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interesting they had that kind of vampire assimilation suit. I

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guess it was like technology that lets you drain somebody's life.

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Worset would also kind of take on the the rest

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properties or there right right, like their biological distinctiveness. It's

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kind of a revered right Yeah, I thought the same thing.

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And then you got Jala's character, who could have kind

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of added to that and said, you know, Edison and

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whoever was left did the same thing to her family,

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basically drained them dry. That we would have gotten aspects

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of that, but it just kind of felt like all that,

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all those pieces came together too late, and and it

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just at the end ended up being somebody who has

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been on revenge had magical space goo that was going

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to kill everybody, but nothing that necessarily felt like you

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shouldn't go any further.

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And here's why.

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And another thing that bothers me that it is I

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just lost this luster is seeing an enterprise.

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Getting destroyed again.

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Yes, I'm so tired of it. Okay, yes, don't get

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me wrong. The visuals were absolutely gorgeous, but can we

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stop destroying the enterprise? I mean I don't feel emotionally

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attached to it at all, like I did with losing

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the OG enterprise and Search Response and of course losing

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Enterprise D in Generations. I was emotionally attached to those enterprises,

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you know, because we had seen them for so long

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that you felt a loss.

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It was like losing a character. But they do it

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so much now saying, ah, no big deal, We're going

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to lose another ship. What is rebuild it?

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I'm tired of it, I really am. And it just

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that's another thing that took me out of this film.

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I was like, here we go again, We're going to

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destroy another ship.

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And again.

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I don't want to take anything from the visuals because

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I thought they were stunning, but I'm just tired of it.

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Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting tactic, the way that

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they do destroy the Enterprise. I was a little surprised

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that they didn't take another approach to reacting to it.

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You know, if you have a shotgun blast coming at you,

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you've got, you know, all these different kind of things

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kind of flying at you. I would think evasive maneuvers

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would be the thing, not try to shoot as many

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of these pellets as you can. That to me, I couldn't.

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I can really see around that.

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I think the problem I have with it is the

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Kelvin Timeline. They treat the Enterprise like it's just as ship.

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They don't treat it like a character like the original

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stuff does.

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It's just like, oh, it's just this is something we're

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just on board. We don't care about it. That's what

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it feels like the entire trilogy of the Kelvin Timeline.

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It's no big deal, it's no loss.

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And I'm sorry, but the Enterprise is a character just

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as much as Kirk Spock, all of them, and they

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should treat it as such, just like any military does

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to whatever they're on, an airplane or a battleship, whatever

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it is. They treat that thing like part of the family.

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The Kelvin timeline. Hell with it.

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We don't care about it. And that's what really bothers

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me about the Kelvin timeline in the Enterprise.

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I one how to agree with everything you guys said.

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It's just it's tiring seeing the damage and seeing the

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destruction of the enterprise because we're not attached to it.

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You know, it's big deal if they'll get another one.

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You know, who cares? Yep, that's wrong.

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Yeah, it's I'm kind of glad that we're not going

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to see any more.

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Of the Calvin timeline, to be honest with you, because.

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I'm to be honest, I'm done with it. I really am.

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I want to move on to something else.

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I really do it. We kind of feels like it

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hasn't been established as a home necessarily because you don't

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have family living on board with them, and I feel

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like when you get more of those kind of emotional attachments,

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then it means a little bit more when it's destroyed.

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It was also kind of a an odd moment where

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we're meeting them, because Kirk is kind of embodying that whole.

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We're on a five year mission and I'm already kind

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of done with the routine by year three, right, Not

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that there's not a lack of excitement, because he's like,

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I ripped another shirt, what's gonna do? But it just

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kind of seems like it's more of the job that

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a home that you really kind of enjoy it. Like

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we see on Strange New Worlds. I think the attachments

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that they form on the Enterprise are really what creates

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that association with the Enterprise as a home, and we

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just haven't had the chance to get that yet.

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ship going down and Kirk looks the bones and what

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have I done?

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You feel that, you know, you feel it? This is

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just like okay, whatever, let's move on.

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Yeah, Well, we've spent what seventy eight episodes, twenty two

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animated episodes, and four or three films at that point

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that it was a it was a main character to

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starch Cracker. We cared about that ship and everything that happened,

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and just like Kirk did, and seeing it destroyage was

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gut wrenching. This who cares? You know what we saw

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destroyed before? You know, we really we got no chance

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to attach ourselves to it at all.

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Right, absolutely, now I will tell you, the one thing

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I do love in this film is the team how

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yeah they when they crash on the planet and you

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get all these different team ups. I and one of

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my favorites is Spock and McCoy. There is so much

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comedic gold between these two guys, and the chemistry is

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spot on between the two of them, it really is.

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That's my favorite part of this whole movie is those two.

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Yeah, there's that that bit where McCoy and Spock and

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Spock's talking about something and McCoy says horseshit and and

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Spock comes back says, I fail to see how excreepman

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has any kind of plays apart. I love that, and

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He even uses the horseshit a little bit later done

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he Spock does.

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and uh Bones is saying, well, at least I know

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I'm not going to die alone he gets transported away.

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He's like typical, like typical. It. It kind of made

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me think of, you know, when we talked about search

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for Spock, and obviously there is the mind meld kind

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of thing. It was there that brought them a little

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bit closer. But I think this team up brought them

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closer in other ways that I thought were more meaningful.

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And I love the scene where they're sitting there and

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Spock is talking about Prime Spock's death and the weight

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that he has on him, and to be able to

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talk each other through that is fantastic. And then when

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you frame that with kind of on the opposite side,

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when they're being told that they're going to be transported

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onto one of the bees together, he like, forget all

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that stuff I said in the cave, You're dead to me,

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you know, Like it goes right back to form. So

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I love that kind of I love that dynamic that

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I think they used really really well. And I was

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glad that Chekhov got a meaningful, I think duo with Kirk,

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especially considering this is Anton Yelgan's last feature, which is

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a tragedy. Obviously, I think he does an amazing job

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in this Let's check off. I think he's done consistently

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well in all the Calvin movies. I thought he was

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a fantastic role in Fright Knight. Hmm. I think it's

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a shame that we lost him, but I'm glad that

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he had so much to do in this movie because

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I would hate to see this be the last one

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and have enough use of him.

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He was definitely very talented actor that we lost too young.

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There's that about that for sure.

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give this film and the writers, obviously Simon Pegg is

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very conscious about this. This this film does feel more

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like an ensemble piece than the last one. Everyone is

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given their time on screen. Everyone's given a genuine hero moment.

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You know, it felt it felt very even with everybody.

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Of course, the main three Kirksbock, McCay gets center stage obviously,

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but no one was just thrown off the side and

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given you know, a few lines which we saw quite

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a lot with the other films.

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Completely agree with that, and that's that's what I love

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about this film is that very thing the ensemble. They

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get more to do on screen and it comes off

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fulfilling and pushing the story in a much better way

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than the previous films have. So yes, I completely agree

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with that one of mine. For sure.

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We got our usual cast, you know that has been

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through this trilogy, but we got some additions.

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Obviously, the villain kral Idris Elbus, who is a really

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good actor and I think he did a good job

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for what he had. I think he did. Sophia Botella,

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who plays Jayla, I love Jayla.

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I really liked her character in this. I like to

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see that she joined Starfleet at the end of this

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because she obviously said to have to.

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Wear one of those silly uniforms in Jaya.

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But I would love to see her something about her

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and other films. I don't know what they would do,

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even in comic books anything. I would like to see

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more of her character since we know she joined Starfleet,

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I would like to see something happen with.

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Her because I loved her character. I thought. I thought

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Sophia did a fantastic job.

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Did Yeah, and I agree. I think Arius Alba does

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a great job as Krawl, considering that he's so many

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different versions of Krawl. It wasn't until the third time

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that I watched this that I was able to identify

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that it felt like the first crawl that we get

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is before he starts to kind of lose, almost like

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his makeup starts to get kind of smoothed out. He

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reminds me of a blend between Tim Curry from Legend

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and Lewis GUSSI junior from Enemy Mine.

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I see that.

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Effect, like it was like, that's why this reminds me

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of But I think he did a good job of,

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you know, stepping through those different kind of things, and

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I think it's kind of a shame again that they

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didn't explain that a little bit more. You get one

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kind of hint where he's holding two crew members and

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they started to become almost kind of mummified. I don't know,

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maybe if we had seen him as a different kind

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of captain who has already lost all of his crew,

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who maybe did think of his you know, ship as

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more of a home, that would have posed a little

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bit more of kind of a mirror to Kirk and

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what he's decided to do or Spock and what he's

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thinking about doing. It would add a little bit more

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time to this, which I don't think we need, really need,

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But yeah, I think he did a good job. And

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I agree Sophia as Jayla was a very interesting character.

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It'd be interesting to see that as some kind of

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a spinoff in some fashion, But I'd rather not go

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into Calvin timeline and then the other timeline. I'd rather

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continue with Strange New worlds. But yeah, I think there's

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some potential.

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There that was missed. I agree, absolutely.

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Another there's a few other editions here. I know Lydia Wilson,

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who plays Kolara, one of the actresses who joined this

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cast briefly. Obviously, she plays Commodore.

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Paris is a Sarah Deshlou. I don't know. I'm probably

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butchering her last name, but she is absolutely amazing.

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Yes, I love her voice. She's very distinguished in that voice,

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and as you hear, you know who it is. But

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if you guys haven't seen the amazing Amazon series The Expanse,

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highly highly recommended. She has a major role in that show,

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and that's where I fell in love with her as

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an actress. Even to the listeners actor, if you've not

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seen The Expanse, you are missing out. First three seasons

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are absolutely phenomenal science fiction. Definitely check that out. Last

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season not so much, but hey, it is what it is.

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But she's a wonderful actress and I was so happy

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when I saw her in this film.

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Cool And of course, and Greg Greenberg, who always pops

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up in JJ Abram stuff, you.

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Guys, every Yeah, he plays Commander Finnigan in this I

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know J. J. Abrams dropped out of directing this because

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he obviously was joining Star Wars and couldn't do Star Trek.

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I'm stabbing the back of a lot of Trekki's out

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there moving into the world of Star Wars. But I

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think he made the smart decision. I think the franchise.

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It was good for the franchise, for Star Trek. Anyway,

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even though Justin Lann don't think was a great choice.

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It really felt like Fast and the Furious Star Trek.

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And I get it because he directed what three of

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those films, Fast and the Furious.

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Yeah, I think it did.

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So I see some of those elements that he brought

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into this film, and I guess, you know, they wanted

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that fast pace in this film, you know, for the

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more modern audience. I guess you could say I get it,

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but it is what it is. I suppose.

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Yeah, I mean he did. He did a great job

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with something that is so action oriented. Yeah, that is

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you know, the the action choreography of ships played a

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major part in this. And then of course one motorcycle

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scene that I don't know, a certain point it felt

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it felt a bit silly, like it felt hard to

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believe that one, but yeah.

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And let me correct a mistake that I made on

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the last podcast too. When I was listing the actors

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that had been in my other favorite series, Doctor Who,

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I missed a big one, and we haven't really talked

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about his character, even though he's been in all three

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of them. That's deep Roy Keyneser, you know, it's an

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original character. The idea of having a Scotty having an

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assistant like that is pretty unique. And I've always loved

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the character in all three of the films, you know.

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And he was in one of probably was considered one

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of the best Doctor's stories ever written back in the

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seventies called The Towns of wing chaig All. You should

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really check that one out. But he is a wonderful actor,

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has been in so many things and is great in

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all three of these Star Trek films.

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He was in my favorite childhood movie, Never a New Story.

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Yes he was.

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Yep.

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I think it's good that his character Keneser has been

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given so much more to do, like he hasn't been

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just kind of left behind, which he could have been.

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But I think his acting in the role is really

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a fitting for it, even though there are no lines whatsoever.

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But I love the relationship that he has with Scotty,

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that they continued that kind of closeness. I also think

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the design of the character is fascinating. I think it was.

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It is more.

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Interesting in the first one where you could see they

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were kind of like almost for pupils. But yeah, that's

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a good call, Deeproad, a degree job.

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He did, good calling.

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All right, well, let's take a break and when we

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come back, we will continue our discussion of twenty sixteen

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Star Trek Beyond Welcome Back Everybody to Phase set. This time,

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we were continuing our discussion about Star Trek Beyond, the

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last film of the Calvin timeline.

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So let's let's talk more.

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About this film itself. To me, I said this was

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the weakest of the trilogy. I will go on record

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again to say this was the weakest opening.

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Of all three films.

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That yeah, it just me you know, him giving Kirk

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giving a speech to you to giving which we find

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out later is the actual you know, device the villains

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looking for, but you know, approaching them and giving them

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a speech and them just coming out of nowhere. To me, yeah,

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it's funny because they looked like they were huge and

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all of a sudden are these tiny little creatures.

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I just I don't know, I just did not like

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the openingest film. Am I wrong?

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No, you're not wrong, You're not wrong, And it is

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it is the weakest I liked in at Dark. This

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is interest. That's probably the only thing I really liked

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about that film. But nothing can beat the the intro

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for the first one, nothing at all, not at all.

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Well, it's it's kind of a disarming intro because they

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seem to be these gigantic monsters of these big booming voices,

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and then of course they look like they're you know,

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the size of bulldogs. What kept coming back for me

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with this one is, you know, the parts of a

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horrible weapon which must never come back together at the

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you know, the risk of the entire universe or whatever.

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Reminded me of a couple of different Next Generation stories.

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In particular, there's the one with the there was a

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vulcan device I think it was, that had been split

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into different pieces and they eventually had to do You

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remember which one I'm talking about.

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I remember similar story that I don't remember what it was, though,

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but yes, yeah, I do remember that.

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The point is this is one part of some kind

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of horrible weapon, and we're just gonna hand it over

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casual without studying it. And it seems like, yes, it's

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kind of this diplomacy like this, you know, species gave

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it to us to give to you as a sense

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of trust or whatever. But if they're going to hand

475
00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:18.240
it over, fine in the sense of diplomacy whatever, But

476
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:20.079
if they're going to store it in their archives, and

477
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:21.559
if he's going to put it in the back of

478
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.440
Ensign SIL's head, feels like they should study it a

479
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:28.680
bit more, yeah, to say like is this radioactive? Is

480
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:32.039
it filled with the magic space goop? Is this like

481
00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:34.039
what is happening there? And it kind of felt bad

482
00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:37.359
for engine Zill when her you know, the tendrils or

483
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:40.559
whatever open up on the back of her head and

484
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:43.319
I don't know if it was naturally part of her

485
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:45.200
skin on the back of her head or if she

486
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.680
it looked like there was kind of some discoloration, and

487
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.519
I was like, is this thing like melting her brain

488
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:53.559
as she's holding this For Kirk, it just seemed like

489
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:56.559
that one was a little bit of a like everybody

490
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.279
knows about this ancient weapon. This starfleet had it in

491
00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:01.440
their hands, but they didn't study it at all, it

492
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:02.079
seems odd.

493
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:03.279
It does very odd.

494
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.359
Yeah, I don't know, there's a goof good job, star Fleet,

495
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:09.279
good job, or section thirty one when you need them right.

496
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:14.359
I did like the or Town space station. I thought

497
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:19.759
that was absolutely amazing. Again, visuals were absolutely stunning here.

498
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:22.799
Matter of fact, even when we get all the different

499
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.640
shots around the space station, getting to see what it

500
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:30.640
looks like. I thought the piece of music here was fantastic.

501
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:34.359
Yep, definitely one hundred percent agree with that. That's actually

502
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.000
my favorite part of the soundtrack.

503
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:41.440
Mine too, so yeah, yeah, and seeing that space station

504
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:43.440
like that can only makes me think of what it

505
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:44.920
would look like today if they would do a new

506
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:48.119
TV series like Deep Space nine. Getting to see a

507
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:52.519
space station now with the visuals that they have at

508
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:54.680
their disposal would just be phenomenal.

509
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.400
Yeah. I mean, I think there's some good action choreography

510
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:00.680
there as well, because I think the shots where you

511
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:06.759
basically see the the Franklin cruising through under the underwater

512
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.079
yeah river. Yeah, I thought that was a clever use

513
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:13.640
of it. I found it kind of disorienting how it

514
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:18.240
had that kind of central hub with the gravity weirdness

515
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.240
of the center of this Dicens for your kind of thing.

516
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:24.880
It had to be kind of thinking, like, how can

517
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.920
you know which end is up when you're in this place?

518
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.000
Or does that not necessarily under you're just kind of

519
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.640
walking on the sidewalk you look up, there's other things

520
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:34.079
I don't necessarily notice. It just seems like with that

521
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:38.640
gravity distortion, it just feels like it'd be kind of

522
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:39.720
odd to live there.

523
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.039
It's not the first time we've seen something like that.

524
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.920
It's my fact that's the way Babylon five was set

525
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.920
up as the station in that that you know, interior

526
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.680
round version. I've seen it. This is It's a rather

527
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.119
common thing in sci fi and I love it in

528
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.680
Star Trek. It's very unique. We've never seen anything like

529
00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.240
that here in Star Trek this first time, and I

530
00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:02.440
think it's it's fantastically done in this film.

531
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:05.160
Yeah, I agree, it's kind of neat saying it in

532
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.359
Star Trek like this. It was beautiful in my opinion.

533
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.519
So kind of the backtrack a little bit what you

534
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.839
were talking about earlier, Scott about Spock when he learns

535
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:18.759
of the passing of investors Spot. I like that he

536
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:21.240
put that weight on his shoulders and just didn't come

537
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:22.240
out and tell anybody.

538
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:24.400
I know, he didn't have a lot of.

539
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:28.440
Time because things happened so fast. You know, they go

540
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:30.960
on a mission and the ship falls apart and everything happens.

541
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.640
But he and he does end up telling that to McCoy,

542
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:37.720
but then later on he you know, he talks to

543
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.759
Kirk about it. I like that he kept that to

544
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.759
himself as long as he could because it was very personal,

545
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.519
obviously because it's him, you know, it's just in a

546
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:50.440
different timeline. But I really liked it, and I know

547
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:52.839
him and McCoy had that conversation about it, and you know,

548
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:54.839
McCoy even said, you know, it's that's got to be

549
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.319
you know, I don't remember the exact words he says,

550
00:28:57.759 --> 00:28:59.000
but he tells him, you know that it's got to

551
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:02.319
feel something awkward, you know, finding out that he's passed away,

552
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.599
because I mean literally, it's kind of you So it

553
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:09.279
really definitely has to feel weird. So I like that

554
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:13.440
aspect of the script that they did that, and I

555
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.200
think it was when he did eventually tell Kirk, it

556
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:18.200
just made it that much more special. And of course

557
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.759
we get that wonderful shot at the end, the picture

558
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.000
of the og crew, which I thought was a wonderful,

559
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:27.039
wonderful touch in this film.

560
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:30.920
Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot that coincides with the passing

561
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:35.079
of Lennon me Moy related to this movie. I know

562
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:38.359
that that had an impact on Zachary Quinto in his

563
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:43.440
performance here. I think it was a very smart choice

564
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:49.039
to make that part of Spock's story here, because it's

565
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.960
something as far as like, you know, continuing the Vulcan culture.

566
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.519
Is that how does he want to do that? He

567
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:58.440
knows he has a role in it, but knowing that

568
00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:02.160
the person that he confides with about that is Bones.

569
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:05.079
It was kind of the last person that he would

570
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:08.680
confide anything in. But we see them have that. You know,

571
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.680
it's always been this kind of contentious kind of relationship

572
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:18.759
but they're still close. Yeah, and having that open conversation

573
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.359
after an injury, which makes him probably more likely to

574
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.279
you know, laugh out of you know, whether he's delirious

575
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:29.440
or whatever. I think it was well performed and well written,

576
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:31.000
So yeah, I totally agree.

577
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.799
Yeah, to go back to the visual again, I know

578
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:35.640
I talked about it how I hated the Enterprise getting

579
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.519
destroyed again, but I did love the one shot when

580
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:39.240
Kirk is in.

581
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:43.160
His escape pod and you see his reflection in the window,

582
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.119
but you also see the soft infection of the ship

583
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.200
going down. I thought that was an amazing shot. Amazing,

584
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:51.519
it was one of the best.

585
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:52.039
Yeah.

586
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:54.960
Yeah, just how much they can do now with CGI

587
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.119
just blows my mind anymore. And then how they used

588
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.720
the soft refection and when they turned on the was

589
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:03.880
it the impulse engines that are in the saucer reflection

590
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.119
or whatever it was to get it to you know,

591
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:09.279
to help them escape and then eventually flips it up.

592
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:14.440
And onto killing the one what's her name? But anyway,

593
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.920
I thought that was a really cool scene. Yeah, a

594
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:18.880
lot of good camera.

595
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.680
Work too, justin Lynn used and again in the sauce

596
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:24.319
reflection where you know, he comes out of the one

597
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:25.559
and the camera goes up into the air and it

598
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.680
comes back down into the sauta reflection to see check

599
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:28.279
off and Kirk.

600
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.680
I thought that was a really cool shot that he

601
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:33.839
did there. It's amazing what they can do now. But

602
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:35.599
I guess CGI kind of kind of help with that,

603
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:35.880
but you.

604
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:37.960
Still got to help a lot, it does, but you

605
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:40.240
still got to know how to choreograph that campus and

606
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:43.200
your actors so to be able to mix that with

607
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.519
CGI is just something phenomenal in itself.

608
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:46.119
It really is.

609
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:49.559
Yeah, We're we're past though, those days where you know,

610
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.200
you shoot the film and then you spend you know,

611
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.079
six eight months doing post production visual effects. They have

612
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.400
to work very close together, now, yep, yep.

613
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.599
I think related to that. The other escape that I

614
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.839
really liked was Scotti's departure. He kind of took a

615
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:09.680
queue from into darkness. But yeah, slipping into a photon torpedo, yeah,

616
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:13.359
I mean, there's there's no other you know, there's no

617
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.240
more of a hold your breath moment than escaping in

618
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.839
something that's meant to explode.

619
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:21.920
So well, okay, I mean, I mean, when you got

620
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:22.920
to do it, you gotta do it right, just the

621
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.640
other way exactly. I lo a choice. He had a

622
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:28.319
better chance of being in the torpedo than he was

623
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:29.000
on the ship.

624
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.839
So it made sense. But that was a really cool

625
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.680
shot too. I like that the bees.

626
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.000
I thought those were cool, even though I didn't like

627
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.119
the ship getting destroyed. Again, I thought those were phenomenal,

628
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.720
especially when you get to see that gigantic wave of

629
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:48.640
them destroying your town. I really thought that was just

630
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:50.759
a cool shot. And then of course they have to

631
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.759
use sabotage to be.

632
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.799
The music that interferes with the.

633
00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.720
Bees, which I liked as a callback, and it's.

634
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:03.160
D choice right exactly.

635
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.359
Yeah. I mean as much as they were using the

636
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.559
waves and the swarms to attack, seeing how they were

637
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:15.119
disrupted with a similar kind of fluid motion, I think

638
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.279
that was a good choice.

639
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:20.039
I mean it's original that they incorporated it actually into

640
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.559
the store rather than just playing it. I like that idea.

641
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.000
I wish more films would do that rather than just

642
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:26.559
you know, oh, I like this song was put it

643
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:27.440
in the film somehow?

644
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:29.400
Yeah, right, completely aguring.

645
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:31.319
What anything else you guys want to discussed the film

646
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:32.720
before we move on behind the scenes.

647
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.359
Nope, There's just one one line that stood out to

648
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.880
me that I really liked. When Scotty was inspiring Jayla

649
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.680
to to kind of take the action that she needed to,

650
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.519
and he said, my wee granny used to say, you

651
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.279
can't break a stick in a bundle, which just makes

652
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:53.559
me think of the newer Planet of the Apes series

653
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:55.680
where it's apes together strong, and they kind of symbolized

654
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:57.559
that by him holding like a bunch of sticks together

655
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.920
and not being able to break it. I don't know,

656
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:03.039
It's a small moment, but I thought it was a

657
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:04.200
cool line that kind of stuck with me.

658
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.240
That is a pretty cool line. All right, let's talk

659
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.559
behind the scenes, guys.

660
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.159
I know one of the things I found interestings you

661
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:15.760
guys saw the black eye that Chris Pine had.

662
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.519
Kirk had. That's a real black eye.

663
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:22.159
Yeah, he actually got that from the fight he had

664
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:26.000
with Carl who actually but actually hit him for real.

665
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:29.760
So I think that's kind of cool though, that the

666
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:30.480
real brutes.

667
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:32.760
Yeah, I'm glad they left that in because you rarely

668
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.480
see that after a fight, so to see some lasting

669
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:37.519
repercussions was nice.

670
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:38.840
Yeah, sure was.

671
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:42.639
I know we talked about in the intro that this

672
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:47.639
is the thirteenth Star Trek film. This beats out Paramounts

673
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:52.679
other franchise who had the most sequels, and that was

674
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:56.679
of course, Fight at the Thirteenth. They had twelve, and

675
00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:58.840
Star Trek beats it, which is kind of funny enough.

676
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:00.599
You would think they would have got to Fight thirteenth

677
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.000
Part thirteen because of the number, but they didn't.

678
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.880
There's no thirteenth of the thirteenth.

679
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:09.519
There is not, unfortunately, so kind of interesting that Star

680
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:11.719
Trek beat fright of the thirteenth and sequel.

681
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:15.760
Oh well, it's not over yet. You know, there's still

682
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:18.159
plenty more they can do with the both of the franchises,

683
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:19.119
So we'll see who wins.

684
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.119
True that we'll just cross it over with Jason.

685
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:26.880
X yeah or not? No or not, let's not do

686
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:27.400
that at all.

687
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:28.480
Let's not do that ever.

688
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:29.800
Yeah, good ideas.

689
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:32.480
So, I know we kind of discussed a little bit.

690
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:33.239
Do we think.

691
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:36.239
The Calvin timeline is going to continue?

692
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:38.800
I think we're all pretty much in agreement here that

693
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:40.519
it's dead in the water.

694
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.280
Yeah, pretty much. Year is a past. Yeah.

695
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:43.639
Yeah.

696
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.880
One of the things that I liked they was after

697
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.719
the passing of Anton, jj Abrams announced that Chekhov would

698
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.159
not be recast.

699
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.000
So at that time they probably thought there was going

700
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:54.199
to be.

701
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:57.039
A fourth film, and he even said, you know, I

702
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.199
would say, you can't replace him, there will be no

703
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:03.239
new casting. Can't imagine that. And I think Anton deserved better.

704
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:06.719
And I completely agree with jj Abrams. If there was

705
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.039
would have been a fourth one in the Calvin town line,

706
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:11.960
I don't know what they would have done, but there's

707
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:13.079
no way they should.

708
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:14.119
Have recasted that role at all.

709
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.440
Yeah. I would rather see them invest in more strange

710
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:21.119
new worlds. I'd rather see them invest more in lower

711
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:26.679
decks or things similar to it. But Picard, I think

712
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.280
it was a great proof of concept that there's still

713
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:34.920
life to be had in the original series crew, that

714
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.119
you get some interesting directions when you give it to

715
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:41.480
more than one type of director, Like, it doesn't always

716
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:45.320
have to be somebody who's deeply steeped in sci fi.

717
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:48.280
They can take a swing at these kind of things

718
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:51.280
and make them successful. I mean, this was honestly a

719
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:53.440
successful movie. I think it was just at the end

720
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:58.039
of where this franchise, or where this timeline in the

721
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.800
franchise really wanted to go, had to go. What would

722
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:03.119
go ahead?

723
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:04.639
What would you think?

724
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.840
Now, by no means do I want this? But what

725
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:09.599
would you think if they decided to do a Kelvin

726
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:10.880
timeline of the Next Generation?

727
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.679
No easy there are?

728
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.239
Wayne, Yeah, I agree with you, but but hold on, now,

729
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:23.440
what do you just think of the possibilities though movies

730
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:24.679
only not TV series.

731
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:26.440
I don't want it because by no means I mean

732
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.039
the next Generation to me is sacred.

733
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:28.679
I agree with.

734
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:33.519
Wayne, but just just briefly think about it, what they

735
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:35.079
could do, the potential.

736
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.559
I mean it feels like one I wouldn't want to

737
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:45.400
do those stories over again because no feel like sacrilege.

738
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:45.920
But it has the original stuff we don't want to

739
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:47.079
we don't into darkness again.

740
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:52.320
I think I think it's it's a tough call. I know, yeah,

741
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.719
I don't. I don't think there's anything where I would

742
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.360
necessarily want to say, oh, yes, I could recognize that

743
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:02.280
because it's the Kelvin timeline. It feels like, again, this

744
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.559
kind of proves the idea that there's It's almost like

745
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.039
this was proof that you should make something like Strange

746
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:11.639
New Worlds because it can be successful and keep things

747
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:15.960
moving on. I think there's room in the Strange New

748
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.000
World's universe to have something that continues into that type

749
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.079
of future age. But I think they can take their

750
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.159
time with it. They don't have to make such a

751
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:28.400
leap from sixties original series two Nest Generation. There's so

752
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.079
much in between. I hope they kind of take their

753
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.119
time with that, But it wouldn't be interesting when we

754
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:33.000
eventually get there.

755
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:36.719
I wouldn't want to see it at all. I just well,

756
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:40.880
here here's the reason. And I can handle the recasting

757
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.239
of the original series because a lot of years have passed.

758
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:50.320
But Star Trek is such a nonlimited limited idea that

759
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.079
I would rather see something new and something original with

760
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:58.920
original characters, original ship. It's infinite. What can be done

761
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:02.760
right to them having to go and recast another one?

762
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:06.559
Once is once was okay? It worked twice? Would not work?

763
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:11.400
Or take all the money and give a Star Trek legacy?

764
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:13.199
Oh that yeah, definitely.

765
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.840
I think Wayne, kind of similar to what you made

766
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.000
me think of was if we get to the point

767
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:24.679
where we're seeing news stories in the next generation timeline,

768
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.039
don't make it the Enterprise, Yeah right, make us a

769
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.400
new crew, make it a different ship, and you can

770
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.000
say like you can. You can refer to the Dominion War,

771
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:39.000
you can refer to the Klingon conflicts and and things

772
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.639
like that. You can even refer to Wolf three five

773
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.039
nine if you want to, like they did in the card.

774
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:46.719
But it doesn't have to be Enterprise.

775
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:51.000
It doesn't not love it or hate it. Discovery showed

776
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.119
us that you can do another series with another ship

777
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:57.360
you and so you know, look at all that could

778
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.960
be possible and any time. Why, I mean, we've got

779
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.000
so much more that has not been explored. We don't

780
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:07.400
need to be recasting and rehashing old stories. I agree,

781
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.119
there are so many great news stories to be had

782
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:12.880
if the writers would and the studios would allow it.

783
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:16.239
Yeah, I completely agree. I just wanted to put that

784
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:17.840
out there to see what you guys thought, pretty much

785
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:18.920
to answer that you.

786
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:20.920
Would, so answered loudly.

787
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:24.639
All right, let's move on to you, I know, Wayne's

788
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:26.760
favorite part. Let's talk about the easter eggs. Wayne, what

789
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:27.280
do you got?

790
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:28.519
Oh easter eggs?

791
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:29.360
Oh?

792
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.360
You know, I got quite a few of them actually

793
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.480
from this film. First of all, to start off, the

794
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:36.880
film takes place two and a half years into the

795
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:40.559
character's five year mission, because it stated that it's this

796
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:42.920
story takes place on its nine hundred and sixty sixth

797
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.519
the day, which would mean that their mission started on

798
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:49.400
May twelfth, twenty two sixty. Now, for reference, this is

799
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.679
five years before the Prime Universe Kirk took command of

800
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.639
the Enterprise and began it's five year mission that we

801
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:58.519
saw in the original series. The working title for the

802
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:02.360
sequel was Believe It or Not Washington Project. I have

803
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:04.639
no idea. I could not find out why they use

804
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:09.320
that title, but that was it. This is only the

805
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.039
second Star Trek film to not have any scenes taking

806
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:15.400
place in or around Earth, with the other one being

807
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:20.079
Star Trek Insurrection. Now. According to the logs of the

808
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:24.800
USS Franklin, Balthasar Edison was a MACO major before he

809
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:27.920
was the captain of the Franklin. Now MAKO stands for

810
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:32.679
the Military Assault Command Operations, which is a division that

811
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:35.519
was created before Starfleet came into being and is basically

812
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:39.400
the future version of the Marines. The log stated that

813
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.440
he participated in the Zendi Wars, which would possibly make

814
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:45.239
him one of the makos that was assigned to the

815
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.920
Enterprise NX one under Captain Jonathan Archer during that third

816
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.159
season of Star Trek Enterprise. One of the stories of

817
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:57.199
the Franklin's fate involved a giant green Hand. This has

818
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.599
to be a reference to the original series episode Who

819
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:03.880
Mourns for Edonius. Giant Greenhand also appears in the end

820
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:07.320
credits of the film. Now. Simon Pegg, the writer, confirmed

821
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.000
that Commodore Paris is a distant relative to Lieutenant Tom

822
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:16.039
Parris and possibly his grandmother. The names of the two

823
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.840
crew members that were killed during the Krawl attack Martin

824
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.280
and Tomlinson. Those are the same crew members that were

825
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:27.320
killed in the Prime Universe during the original series episode

826
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:31.360
Balance of Terror. This is the first on screen appearance

827
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.119
of a ship other than the Enterprise d to separate

828
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.880
its saucer. Now, this has always been an option of

829
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.079
the original Enterprise, but this is the first time where

830
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:42.719
we actually see it. This is a little bit of

831
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:47.679
a possible blooper here. Krawl mentions that the Federation's centuries

832
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:51.760
of expansion, but according to the final episode of Star

833
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.880
Trek Enterprise, which was called these are the Voyages, the

834
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.639
Federation at the time of this film is only about

835
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.679
one hundred years old. Now, remember that the Kelvin timeline,

836
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.480
anything before the events of the Narrata and the destruction

837
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:09.119
of the Kelvin in twenty two thirty three are the same,

838
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:11.639
which would make the Federation one hundred years old. So

839
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:14.119
maybe he just thinks it's a lot longer than what

840
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.719
it is. Carl Urban said that the medallion he wears

841
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.480
at the end of the film, as well as his

842
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.400
shirt being open, is an homage to Deforce Kelly's appearance

843
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:27.880
in Star Trek the motion picture Nice Disco Bones Yep.

844
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.079
The photo of the Enterprise crew from the Prime Universe

845
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:34.599
is a publicity photo from Star Trek five, the Final Frontier,

846
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.480
and let's end with a little bit look at the merchandise,

847
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.039
which was rather scarce for this film due to the

848
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:45.880
lackluster performance of Star Trek Into Darkness. But I'll try

849
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:47.360
to give you a summary of what we did get.

850
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:50.119
I was really surprised to find out that Star Trek

851
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.840
Beyond is the first Star Trek's film not to get

852
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:57.280
a novelization. IDW Comics published a four issue comic mini

853
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.840
series called Star Trek Manifest Destiny fills in the story

854
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.760
between Into Darkness and Beyond and features the Klingons. This

855
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.920
was written by Mike Johnson and Raldpiart and with art

856
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:11.559
by Angel Hernandez. The first issue was published in both

857
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:16.519
English and Klingon Ease. Titan Magazines published a Star Trek

858
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.519
Beyond Collector's Edition magazine, featuring exclusive interviews with cast and crew,

859
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.159
behind the scenes, details on the visual effects, and an

860
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:26.920
analysis of the new vella. Empire Magazine dedicated their three

861
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.119
hundred and twenty sixth issue to Star Trek Beyond, as

862
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.719
did Sin Effects Magazine, who took a closer look at

863
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:37.039
the film's visual effects. Snapco produced items for the release

864
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.719
of the film, given out to participating cinemas, including beverage cups,

865
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:44.800
popcorn bags, and trays, as well as cup toppers with

866
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:48.480
Starship miniatures featuring the US's Enterprise, the Franklin and the

867
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:52.599
Swarm Ship. These three miniatures were also packaged as a

868
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.760
Walmart exclusive with the Star Trek Beyond Blu Ray release.

869
00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:00.039
Eagle Moss Collectibles added chips from the film to the

870
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:04.400
their official Starflick Starship collection, which included again the Enterprise

871
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.639
of Franklin and the Swarm Ships. And to end it all,

872
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.199
Funko Pop got into the game Littering the World with

873
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:13.280
figurines of all seven of the main crew as well

874
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:18.239
as Krawl and Jayla. Plus they produced exclusives including Chekhov

875
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:21.320
in Survival Suit for Games Stop and Kirk in Survival

876
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:22.760
Suit for Fye.

877
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:26.519
And Littering is the Creek or They're I'm not a

878
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:27.320
fan of those at all.

879
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:30.400
Yeah, I'm not either, So I got a.

880
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:36.400
Couple of things. Easter Eggs Star based Yorktown. The reason

881
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.440
why they called it Yorktown because that was the original

882
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:41.719
name of the Starship of Enterprise before Geen roden Berry

883
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:42.599
decided to change it.

884
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:44.639
That's right, I forgot about that yep.

885
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:49.920
And then when Kirk and the crew enter Yorktown's reception area,

886
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.559
an announcement can be heard over the intercom.

887
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:56.639
Referring to starship with the registreet number in CC two

888
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:59.639
eight nine three is just arriving. There's a reference to

889
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:03.039
the US, I says Starger, the first ship that Captain

890
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:06.440
John Luke Picard commanded in Star Trek the next Generation.

891
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:09.880
I missed that. Good catch, thank.

892
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.360
You, so, Dave gets as Kelvin spinoff.

893
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.800
Is a t I would watch that that. I would

894
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:17.639
watch definitely.

895
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:20.679
It would be it'd be kind of interesting, though, And

896
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.440
that's for sure, Scott, did you catch anything?

897
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:29.639
The only other easter egg I guess is the origin

898
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:36.039
of Jayla's name. That it was inspired by Jennifer Lawrence's

899
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:39.519
performance in Winter's Bone. Apparently the character is very independent,

900
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:46.079
very resourceful, so Jennifer Lawrence apparent you know, occasionally called

901
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:51.239
jay law They they took that into the creation of

902
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.320
that character and that name. So I think that's kind

903
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:56.920
of an interesting crean connection between Jennifer Lawrence and Star

904
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.559
Trek universe.

905
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:01.800
I wonder if there's any consideration of casting her. M.

906
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:04.800
Yeah, I don't know, that would be interesting in itself.

907
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.320
Although I'm glad that I didn't because it feels like

908
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:11.039
that would have drawn so much attention to that character,

909
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:14.840
and I'd rather see what a Sophia in this role

910
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.400
be able to take that character and do what she

911
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:19.960
had done. Be interesting to check that out in the

912
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.239
alternate universe, you know, video store.

913
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:28.000
But I'm good, We're good. Well, let's talk a little

914
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:29.519
bit about the score.

915
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.480
We have the same composer, Michael is Back, who had

916
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.840
did all three of the Kelvin timeline.

917
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:39.639
He did a really good job of help pacing the action.

918
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:42.559
I know, when you and I agree with the York

919
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:46.039
Talent sequence, that score is the most beautiful piece of

920
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.639
the entire score. In my opinion, I still feel it's

921
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:54.599
nowhere near the First Star Trek that he did not

922
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.440
even close to being as good as that. Now, you know,

923
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:03.280
we get some reoccurring theme that we've had, but overall,

924
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:05.960
it's a good score, but I don't think it's not

925
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:06.440
as best.

926
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:12.079
I agree it's better than Into Darkness, although I liked

927
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.960
Into Darkness. I like all three of the scores. I

928
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.119
do put it as a step up because of the

929
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:21.559
Yorktown theme, but it's You're right, it's not nearly as

930
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:26.280
original or as just shockingly good as as the original

931
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:27.079
two thousand and nine.

932
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.199
I think that one just caught us by surprise. Why.

933
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.559
I mean, it's good, you know, it's fantastic, that.

934
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:35.440
First one, and I think we weren't expecting to get

935
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.480
what we got with that film, but also that score,

936
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:39.519
it just blew us away.

937
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:41.760
And I don't think he had a chance to meet

938
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:42.920
that or beat that at all.

939
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:47.199
So no, no, you're right, too much expectations. Yeah, but

940
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:52.119
he has delivered three really good, really listenable scores within

941
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.440
the film and outside in their soundtracks. Yeah, you know,

942
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:57.840
I enjoyed listening to them over and over again I

943
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.199
have over the years. They're They're very enjoy They're definitely

944
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:05.079
worth picking up with this soundtrack. There's two different versions

945
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.079
that you can get. Both of them were released by

946
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.320
Very Sarah Band. The first one, which came out when

947
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:13.519
the film was released, has nearly sixty one minutes in it,

948
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:16.280
so that's a good proportion of the music right there,

949
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:17.840
if you want to go with that one. But there

950
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:22.320
is also a second version called the Deluxe Edition, brought

951
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.480
out by Very Sarah Band, which is the full and

952
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.599
complete score forty seven tracks over two hours of music.

953
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:33.360
Two CDs. It has, like I said, the complete score,

954
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:39.039
as well as special suites of music, including the main

955
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:42.079
and full version of the Yorktown theme. It is a

956
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.960
limited edition of five thousand copies and it's out of

957
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:48.039
print and sold out right now, but Very Sarah Band

958
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:51.559
does have it as a as a digital download and

959
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:53.480
available to their website if you do want to get this,

960
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:57.159
and I suggest picking up all three great listens.

961
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.000
Yeah, he's a great composer of everything he's done is

962
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.800
and really good. So I enjoy listening to him and

963
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:04.360
I can't wait to see what more he has on

964
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:05.679
the horizon for so I'm.

965
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.840
Glad he's continued with his association with Star Trek. I

966
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:10.840
know he wrote the theme to start Trek Prodigy, which

967
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:13.840
I love that thing. I did a fantastic job, and

968
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:15.800
I hope that he continues on. I mean, I'm not

969
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:18.159
going to make any more Kilvin films, but I'd hate

970
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:21.119
to see that being the last of his association because

971
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:24.920
he's a great, great composer and I think he's got

972
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:26.400
a lot more to explore with Star Trek.

973
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:30.440
Absolutely, I think it's interesting that this had I didn't

974
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:34.199
realize there was an original Rihanna song on this soundtrack,

975
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.519
which is a first for Star Trek. I think.

976
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:39.760
Was it also Sledgehammer or something?

977
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:45.559
Yeah? Okay, Also interested to hear about one of the

978
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:53.920
cellists on the soundtrack, Dermott mulrooney. The actor really yep,

979
00:50:54.199 --> 00:51:01.480
thirty Steve Stevens from Young Guns. Okay, okay, apparently you know,

980
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:04.840
looking up on IMDb, he's been a cellist in the

981
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:09.360
Spider Man Tom Holland movies. He was on Rogue One,

982
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:13.639
Jurassic World, Inside Out, the Planet of the Apes movies,

983
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:18.960
Incredibles too. I had no idea that he was a cellist,

984
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.599
but apparently play some music from time to test it

985
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:23.239
in between them.

986
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:27.039
Good one too to do all those scores, because wow,

987
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:28.440
I know that that's cool.

988
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:33.079
Nice to be there a little east rerec Yeah, all right,

989
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:35.679
any favorite moments, guys, I know we kind of probably

990
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:39.280
briefly talked about some of them, But you guys have

991
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:41.360
anything that stands out time. We've already kind of talked

992
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:44.159
about our dislike, so anything any scenes that you absolutely like.

993
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:48.639
I think I've already mentioned all the ones that stood

994
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:51.280
out to me. Wayne.

995
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:51.840
What about you?

996
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.639
Well, I mean I did too. There really isn't too

997
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:57.440
many scenes in here that I stood out, but I

998
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.639
do want to bring up one bit because I haven't

999
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.239
mentioned it myself, but I really liked the character Jayla,

1000
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:09.840
and she ended up, in my opinion, being the probably

1001
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:12.119
the most interesting and best character of the film. You know,

1002
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.639
she's a real badass. You know, she could really fight,

1003
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:21.079
and I felt her scenes with Scottie were probably some

1004
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:25.440
of the most fun, the best scenes, because she can

1005
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:28.159
compete with him, you know, she she's a great engineer

1006
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.960
and you know his equals with him. I just I

1007
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.639
just think the dynamic between the two are were cute,

1008
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:39.440
was funny, was interesting. It lifted what could be could

1009
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:43.639
have been a very boring, very unexciting second half of

1010
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:46.760
the film and for me, into something that was worth

1011
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:48.000
really worth watching.

1012
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:50.239
Yeah, I agree with that. I would like to see

1013
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.960
some more of her somewhere else, somehow. It doesn't have

1014
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.920
to be the Kelvin timeline. Let's bring her back for something,

1015
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:57.639
it would be kind of it. I always liked how

1016
00:52:57.639 --> 00:52:59.559
she was called James T. James D.

1017
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.960
Yeah.

1018
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.199
Yes, yeah, so I really like them. No, I agree

1019
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:07.400
with you.

1020
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:10.320
She was a great character, great actress, who played her.

1021
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:12.960
It would be nice to see her back for sure.

1022
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:13.679
All right.

1023
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:17.599
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1024
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.159
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1028
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1029
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.239
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1030
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.599
Calvin Tomlin. We get it wrong, do we Do you

1031
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.679
think they're going to continue with this? I think it's

1032
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.639
dead in the water, but who knows. Who knows what

1033
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:48.679
paramount has up their sleeve down the road, Jeff So Jeff,

1034
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:51.760
Hopefully we'll agree with us on that, but we shall

1035
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:55.800
see how he responds to that. Scott, Wayne, thank you

1036
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:57.239
so much for joining me on the bridge.

1037
00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:58.519
As always, it's a pleasure.

1038
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:00.000
Likewise, always a good time.

1039
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.119
Yeah, been a lot of fun. I can't believe we've

1040
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:03.800
finished all of the films.

1041
00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:06.480
Now, I know, all thirteen films. We have completed them.

1042
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:08.960
That's crazy to think about. Feels like we just started, doesn't.

1043
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:09.400
It It does?

1044
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:12.000
Yeh, But here we are the last one.

1045
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:14.280
Hopefully we'll beget to talk about a new one someday,

1046
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:17.519
but I'm sure that's still a few years that down

1047
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:17.880
the road.

1048
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:21.960
We salk maybe number fifteen could be a lower decks movie.

1049
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:23.039
That's right, You never know that.

1050
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:27.400
I want, yes, absolutely all right to all you listening

1051
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:29.599
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1052
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1053
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1054
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:35.679
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1055
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:43.039
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1056
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:46.199
Stun coming up for you later today, where we lead

1057
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:49.159
up to the season premiere of Star Trek Strange New

1058
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:52.440
Worlds with a look back on season two and beyond.