Jan. 21, 2026

Phasers Set To Stun: Starfleet Academy Episode 1. Kids These Days | Episode 2. Beta Test

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Season 7 Phasers Set To Stun

On Phasers Set To Stun, we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more!

This year marks the 60th anniversary of Star Trek and we've got an exciting new series to watch! Wayne, David, and Scott will be discussing plots, sharing their favorite characters, and revealing all the Easter eggs within Star Trek: Starfleet Academy!

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello, listeners, and welcome to an all new episode of

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Phaser Set to Stun, where we continue to show our

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love for everything Star Trek in this ongoing series from

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a film by podcast which focuses on every system of

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the expanding Star Trek universe by covering television, movies, animation, directors, merchandise,

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and much much more. Plotting your course on this voyage

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is your core truck crew. I'm Wayne Whited and I'm

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David Burns, and this time we have a treat. This

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is the first time that here on Phaser Set to Stun,

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that we've had a chance to talk about a new

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series from right at the beginning, starting with the very

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first two episodes. Today we are discussing those first two

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episodes of Star Trek Starfleet Academy. This new series was

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created by Jiaia Violo and his executive produced by Alex

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Kurtzman and Naga land App. Episode one, titled Kids These

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Days was written by Gianna Violo and directed by Alec

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Kurtzman himself. So from this point forward it's red alert, folks.

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There are spoilers ahead. If you haven't seen this episode yet,

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please stop and beam yourself to the nearest view screen

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to catch it on Paramount Plus, then come back and

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rejoin us for this discussion. So to start off, let's David,

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why don't you give us a short summary of the episode.

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After the burn, Starfleet Academy is reopening under the reluctant

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leadership of Nala Uki, who is haunted by past mistakes.

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She accepts the role to help Caleb, a troubled youth

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whose mother was imprisoned due to the actions of Nespraka.

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Separated from his mother, Caleb struggles until Nala offers him

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a second chance at the academy. There, he quickly forms

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new friendships, but the cadets are soon forced to unite

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and survive when the academy comes under attack. So, Wayne,

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I know there's a lot to talk about with these

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two episodes, that we could be here a very long time.

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The first thing that I want to say is I

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do love the new star Trek sixty logo I think

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that is fantastic, So kudos to them for that. One

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thing I want to say about this series. This series,

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Hiale has Harry Potter, hogwart and lower deck vibes all

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over it, especially episode two. I absolutely love these characters

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already and can't wait to get to know them more.

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But once again, there are things to be a division

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between fans in regard to their reaction of this series.

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You know, I just don't get it. Star Trek cannot

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cannot keep doing the same formula over and over and over.

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It can't stay stagnant and complacent. It just can't. They

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have to move on and they have to give us

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new material in a new angle. And I'm sorry, but

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I think they've done it. I love I love the series,

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and I cannot wait to see what's coming.

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I agree this This is such an original new series.

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I mean, it's it's an absolutely incredible start. But you know,

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there's always going to be fan arguments banned in decision.

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I think a lot of it. You know, a lot

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of these fans they just come across they don't like

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new Star Trek, and that's sad because this is probably

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I mean, we love Discovery, Discovery it didn't. It had

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a lot of problems. It did, but it was also

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a really good series. It had had a great ending

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and this is continuing on the Discovery time line. But

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this is definitely the most Star Trek of the series.

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It really felt like Star Trek, and they really put

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the effort into making it feel like Star Trek and

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that's what I love it. But even this, you know

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saying that it's very original, We've never seen anything like

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this before.

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No, I mean it has a lot of Star Wars

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going on at the beginning of this. Yeah, like you know,

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you kind of know what's going on where you're meaning

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Caleb and his mom, and you don't realize where they

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are at until and they have a great conversation between them,

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a great you know, mom and son, you know, some

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dialogue there and the until the two Federation officers come

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in and you're real like, oh crap, she's she's in jail.

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Oh crap, and then realize and then they get put

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on trial so quick. And let me tell you, Paul

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Gilmadi is an incredible bad guy.

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I absolutely love him in this role. And I was

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on the edge of my seat that entire trial scene

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when obviously, Nalah kind of backstabbed the mom, which she

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didn't have any I mean she questioned later on obviously,

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but when she's getting dragged away and telling Kleb don't

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trust them, and then and then you have Braka just

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you know, laughing and just carrying on and and you know,

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basically you know, saying this is you know, this is

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what you get and it's all his fault.

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Yeah, I mean, he's he's turning out to be a

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great villain. You know. I hope, I can. I know

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we're going to see more of him, and I can't

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wait to see more of him because it's a great

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start for him. You know, he could turn out to

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be one of the all time great Star Trek villains.

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He's definitely written to be one. You know, I'm going

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to reserve my my decision on whether you know he's

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he's that until I see the rest of the season.

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But it's a great start, great opening. He plays it

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incredibly well, you know, and that's what a good villain.

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A good villain makes you want to see more of him.

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That's exactly exactly what he did. How about the special

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events the c G, I oh, they're wonderful. They're They're

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absolutely wonderful. It's not just the CGI though. The the

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production value of the episode is is incredible. It's oh

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yeah and yeah, and I mean we we've been getting

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a lot of that through with with Star Trek, but

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it just, I don't know, it just seems to shine

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a little more in these first two episodes. It's it

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stands out, it stands out as as being beautifully done.

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Well. Another thing that I love about it is it's

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it's a little bit more grown up than Star Trek

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has been for television. Yeah, because I mean when when

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Caleb is fighting those guys in that shuttle and he

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goes and bites off, tears the guy's ear off, you

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don't see that in Star Trek Man at all, not

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on TV. And then you got some of the language

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and and the language it is well placed in my opinion,

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it's it's or they're using it just to use it,

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you know, the the whole asshole one to asshole two dude.

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I love that. I thought that was brilliant between those

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two characters. I did.

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It's it's interesting hearing those that type of I love

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those type of words because we're not used to that

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we're not used to. That is the Star Trek. But

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but you know, TV is no longer sanitized as it

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was thirty years No, now we can we can do

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that now and still keep it a kind of a

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family friendly show. Definitely, this is definitely a new Star Trek.

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It is, you know. And in the cinematography in this,

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I thought it was beautiful. There was like two mean shots.

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And first off, when when Nala goes to visit Caleb

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in the prison, I thought all the lighting there was

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absolutely stunning on what they did there. But the scene

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later on when Caleb is reaching out to his mom

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and illegally using the teacher's panel that you know, and

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then Genesis catches him. The whole scene there where they're

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kind of like silhouetted with that blue background, and then

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when she walks away leaving me, you see his like

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shadow through that glass, I thought, oh, that was beautifully done.

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It was. I was actually rather impressed with Well, there

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were two things that I'm really impressed. First of all,

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this is not the series that I thought we were

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going to get. It's better. It's better, I mean, you know,

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with I'm One, Paramount didn't do a very good job

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at publicizing this series, and of my opinion, they they

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kind of made it look like it was going to

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be some sort of kid teenage drama and it it

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is in a way, but not the whole U nine

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one type of vibes that were getting what it looked like. Yeah,

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that's that's what that's the way it looked, and it's

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it's not that. It's you know, if you if you

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saw that and thought, oh, this isn't a show for me,

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give it a chance, don't don't don't take that, don't

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make that in your first impression. Give it a chance,

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because it's I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. And I

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just forgot where I was going with that second comment,

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so I'll let you continue on.

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How about how about the first time seeing Robert Riccardo

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the doctor on screen time in so many years?

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From boy, Oh, I love him.

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He's just as sarcastic as always and I he had

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me laughing the whole, the whole give me a try

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quarder again coming from Voyager when he did that exact

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scene medical.

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Yeah, I loved it. He was needed for this series.

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I I he definitely was needed it. This this series

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is so different as we've we've said, it's it's so

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different that having that one little that grounded character, one

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we're very familiar with. It is, it's it's it's needed,

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especially for me. For me because like I wasn't really

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sure what I was getting into at this show, and

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I wasn't sure if I was gonna like it. But

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I was definitely going to watch it because I knew

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he was in it, and that was a really good idea.

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But it's not just you know, uh uh stunt casting. No,

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because Bacarda's great. We we love him, you know, we

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loved him as the doctor. He was always a highlight

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on Voyager. And I'm so glad he's here because every

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time he's he's on in the scene. I perk up.

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I mean, I just I love them.

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Yeah, no, absolutely, And there's there's so many characters in here. Again,

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like I said, we could be talking for a long

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time about this, but I love every one of these

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characters in here. And you know, like I said earlier,

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I cannot wait to get to know them. But I'm

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telling you Number one thought, oh my god, dude. I

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laughed hysterically when she went off on k log and

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then yeah, and then Craig was walking by. He said,

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you croug, but put your put your back on this

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idiot's back. Yeah, back idiot.

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What a great introduction to that character. I I like that,

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that introduction. I like the character. And that's that's the

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thing about this, this cast or this I shouldn't say,

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these these characters, they they really took their time and

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built some great backgrounds for these characters. We don't know

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all of it yet, but these seem like characters that

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they actually took time to think about to develop so

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that you know that we will learn more about them.

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These aren't just one dimensional characters. They're all very very

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three dimens and they're very interesting.

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Yeah, and it's so neat on how how they intertwined

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them so quick, Like you don't realize who the character

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is going to be. I mean you did in the advertisement,

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but if you didn't see the advertisement, Like they're all

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around each other, it just happened to be there, and

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they just start meshing really quick with one another, like

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you can already tell like Sam and Genesis are gonna

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have a great relationship with as friends. You can see that.

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And then the whole, the whole jock relationship between Remy

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and Caleb, you know, and how you can see where

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that's going. So, I mean, you're already seeing all of

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this integering among One of the scenes that I absolutely

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love was the scene but when Caleb steps in for

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cried when he didn't need to, you know, I mean,

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you're you're already picking a fight with a Klingon, really,

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you know, and then his like I watched birds, Did

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you expect that coming from a Klingon?

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No? No, And that that makes me interested in this character. Yes,

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he's definitely not sure your ordinary every day clingon, and

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I'm glad that he's not, you know, because I always

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felt the Klingons we were rather one dimensional. This one's not.

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This is there's there's much more that we have to

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learn a lot of room for to explore this, this

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very interesting version of the Klingon. So he could very

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well become my favorite character. I don't know, I'm waiting.

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We haven't seen enough of him yet, but he's definitely

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got me interesting interested yep.

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And you know, like like I said earlier, I mentioned

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this is kind of got like the lower Decks thing,

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and it does because you've got like the Captain and

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Number one and all the crew. But if you think

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of it, I mean, they are kind of a big

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section of it. But your main characters are the Academy cadets, right,

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so you know you kind of got the focus on them,

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even though the main cast kind of I mean, the

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captain and stuff drop in here and there. I mean, honestly,

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you've got the relationship, but not between Naala and Caleb.

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You got that and it's needed. And I like that

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because she almost sees him as her son and he

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even says, you know, you're not my I forget how

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he put it, but you know, not him. That's what

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it was. When she was talking about her son. He said,

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I'm not him, and you know, but I'd like you

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still feel that vibe that she's being protective, of course,

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because it's her fault that Caleb and his mom didn't

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have that you know, relationship, and she you know, they

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weren't together, you know, and she blamed herself for that.

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And now she's bringing Caleb into the Academy to try

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to make mint ends and protect him. But he kind

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of doesn't want that, but he kind of does at

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the same time, if that makes sense.

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Yes, no, I I That's exactly how I read it.

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You know, I've I'm so interested in the character of

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uh Nola, you know, Holly Hunter. I was. I was

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very happy when they announced her casting because I've always

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liked her, she said so much.

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I mean, she she's an.

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Academy Award winning act. Oh yeah, and that's why I

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blew my mind when they you know, they announced that

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she was going to uh At the time, I thought

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she was starring. Now you're right, it is. She is

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starring in the show. But she's not like central Carrie

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or really Caleb. Is this right now? So far as

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we see the central character. But she is so good

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in the part. I mean, you know, she's the captain,

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you know, she's she's she's playing the part of the

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captain that we're very familiar with all these in all

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the other Star Trek series. And I really really like

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her ever since since the point of her trying to

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adjust her chair. I love that. I like her. She's

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she's very she's very well, she's not human, but you know,

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I know, but you know, a very grounded character that

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I'm looking forward to seeing more of what they're going

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to do with her.

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She's not your typical captain though, which is what I

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love that, and I love that we needed that change.

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I love how she just sits sideways in her chair.

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And then the one thing when Baraka was on the

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bridge and then he's i think, walking towards it. Often

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she leaped into the chair to protect it so he

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doesn't sit down in it.

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I love that she when she first walks onto the bridge,

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you know, you can see just just a glimpse of

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awe that she has to it. You know that she's

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she's realizing this is her ship, this is her bridge.

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You know, we've seen that many times. We saw that

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with with Jean Luc Picard, and we saw that with

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Jane Way, and we got that scene with her here.

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I love those type of scenes. It's such a great

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introduction to her character.

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And you're correctly she's very grounded and she's you can

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tell that like she cares about her but which all

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the captives previously had. Don't get me wrong, but she

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definitely has that motherly intinct quite heavily, and she cares

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about everybody that's on her bridge. And I love how

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she knows everybody immediately, and she called him out by

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name and everything and and is prepared when she gets

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on that bridge, and how fluid it is, how she

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takes control and everybody worked together. I just thought that

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was great.

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And she's she's not just a captain, you know, she's

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she's the commment, the chancellor that she's a teacher to

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all these people, and and and Holly Hunter is doing

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a great job of playing all those different all those

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different jobs, all those things on her shoulder. You know,

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it's nice to have This is a captain with a

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lot more responsibilities than we've seen before. Maybe a little

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bit in Cisco because he was in charge of entire station.

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But you know, she's this this is so different, And

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I think that's that's the best word to use for those series.

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Different And that's why I like it. That's that's why

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I'm endeared to the series right away from the start.

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How about how about the final we finally get.

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Loved to beaijor how about that? Yes, I know, I

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w wait till we get about that. Yeah, wait until

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we get to the Easter eggs. That so really surprises

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me again. I mean, we're we're now a thousand years

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in the future, are close to a thousand years in

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the future of all that stuff, but yet it's new,

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but there's a lot of familiar things there and I

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like that, lots of nice little easter eggs to look for,

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and and and it's it's nicely in beige. That's the

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first time we've seen baijor outside of you Space nine, you.

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Know, I know, I know, it's it's it's when I

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when I heard her say that, and then then she

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was on the planet, you know, with the nursery get

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or whatever she was she was teaching. I was it's

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about datim time major.

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Yeah, that was a good introduction. That was a good introduction,

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her whole introduction, the whole all the opening scenes. This

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was what a great opening for a pilot because that's

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what this was. This was the pilot episode in the series,

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and good, good, good pilot, good good start reminded me

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a lot of Voyager's Pilot and how it started. It

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had a good start as well.

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How about the fantastic uh new song for I mean

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not new song, but the going to San Francisco.

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Yeah, I love that.

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I thought that was a knife touch.

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I really it was an interesting rendition of it. So

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I was I know that was by uh uh I

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don't remember who the singer was, but it was the

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It was arranged by Jeff Russo and and he did

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a good job at that. I I it's rather unusual.

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Wasn't that a weird? It was weird because we never

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really had anything like that on Star Trek, not no something,

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not a more. I don't want to exactly call it modern.

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Well it's modern for us. Yeah, that but it worked.

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That worked really well, and I'm glad they did it

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that way.

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It's too and you know, and I don't want to

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jump the gun a little bit to talk about episode two.

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But Jeff Rutho, his music is fantastic. Yeah, but on

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the second episode was really different for Star Trek.

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Yeah, I wanted to point it out. You know, He's

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always been a good composer. He did a good job

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with Discovery, But here he seems, especially in these first

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two episodes, is really aspired. There's a lot more, seems

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to be a lot more room here in this series

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to allow his his themes and his music to kind

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of kind of stand out from from the score or

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from the the sounds of the dialogue. And really he's

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really able to showcase how good a composer he is.

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I hope that that momentum that he's developed in these

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first two episodes continues on as he's good composer. I

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love the music, especially, you're right, especially his music for

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the second episode.

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Yeah, and I mean and he uses the themes of

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Star Trek from time to time when it was needed.

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It wasn't overused or anything like that. It was perfectly

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fitting for what he did.

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And yeah, when we get to the second episode, I've

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got something I want to bring up to you that

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I found rather odd about his music. But but right,

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you know, he's I like the use of his themes.

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It's kind of kind of different, kind of odd hearing

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the original Star Trek theme in this series, but it

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it works. It was nice, It felt nice.

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Yeah, I definitely think we both can agree that the

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pilot was a great pilot. It really introduced so many

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new characters, and I am anxiously and excited to get

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to know them over this season. I'm glad Paramount already

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recognized it because they renewed it for season two. Yes quickly.

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Yeah, Well that's you know, that's what a good pilot does.

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It makes you want to watch the rest of the series,

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and they succeeded brilliantly.

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Absolutely.

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All right, well we've given our opinion, and you know,

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it was pretty good. It was, so let's we got

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a lot more to talk about, So let's continue on.

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Let's take a look at the characters themselves. David, which

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character you think shines most of this episode?

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You know? For me, it has to be Naala because

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her concern for Caleb and what she did to him

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and his mother that forced her to leave, but given

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the chance to fix that brings her back to a reality,

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a reality she didn't think was possible. And at first

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of the episode, we didn't know anything about her son

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right until till to the end of the episode. But

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when Vance comes to get her and tries to talk

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her into it, I mean, she is rooted into her decision.

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You just give up, don't even forget about it. You know,

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you know, I left Starfleet, you know, and she even

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makes sure she points that out, you know, you know, hello,

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captain who left us Starfleet? Who resigned?

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Hello?

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You know? Oh that was me, you know. But she

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quickly turns when he says we found Caleb. Immediately she

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knew what she had to do right then and there

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and again that's that motherly instinct for one, but two,

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she realizes fifteen years ago she made that vital mistake

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of tearing a mom and his son apart, and knew

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this was her opportunity to try to fix that. And

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that's why I think she shined the most in this subject.

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It haunted her, that decision that she made fifteen years ago,

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really haunted her, and it made her, you know, resign it,

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and that brought her back. And you've practically read my

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notes because I agree. I mean, she's not the central

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character in this episode, but she's definitely shine for me.

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Holly Hunter's performance is so fresh, so original for star

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Trek that the character's so well written. You know, I'm

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trying to I can't think of anything else. You just think,

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you know, different than what you said, because that's exactly

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how I felt about it. Definitely a high point for

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me in this episode. Yep, well as we usually do.

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If you have any choice for to be any character

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that appeared in this episode, which one would it be

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and why?

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So? I'm going to go with Sam. She was very

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childlike wonder and innocence for good reason. As we find

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out who she is, seeing her be with people for

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the first time, and seeing you know, when she's looking

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at the surroundings around, how she's trying to say hi

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to everybody as are coming down the hallway. How she

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just her joy, glee of wanting a friend, and that

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excitement that just bubbles out of her. It was just

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pure joy, Wayne, and I loved her in this episode

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and just to feel all those feelings she's getting. And

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then her interaction with the doctor how he almost he

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knew who she was and what she is, but when

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she was seeing him as a mentor, he immediately oh,

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and he tried to escape her. You know, I love that.

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I love her and I cannot wait to get to

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know her more. And that one scene when Genesis you know,

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recognizes her and you know, says hello, and you know

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they have that moment together. It's just that that playful

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list that Genesis had with Sam and they had that

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back and forth, and just that that awkward handshake she had.

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She should offer her hand to Genesis. I love her, Man,

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I would love to have been her in this episode.

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Yeah, now I agree with you, and she's not the

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one I chose, but everything agree. I'm glad we talked

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about her because I love that scene, her introduction scene

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and how awkward she is and trying to trying to

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make friends and stuff, and then her conversation with the doctor.

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You know, he's they're both holograms, so they have a

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lot in common, but they don't because there's such you know,

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she's just brand new, you know, hologram practically, you know

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what I was. I can't remember how old.

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She has, three days or something.

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Yeah, it's like it was like a really small number.

463
00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:28.599
But then him, he's lived for oh gosh, eight hundred

464
00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:33.839
plus years now, and it's it's another relationship that I'm

465
00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:35.839
looking forward to seeing developed between the two of them,

466
00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:38.000
because I think there will. I think there is going

467
00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:39.839
to be a relationship. They're going to going to come

468
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:43.119
together and kind of, you know, bond because you know,

469
00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:46.319
they're both holograms. You know, the doctor really has never

470
00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:48.960
had that before, at least we've ever seen. I mean,

471
00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:51.039
maybe he's run into it in eight hundred years. I

472
00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:52.759
don't know, maybe he ran into ram or I don't know.

473
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:58.720
But but yeah, I'm kind of looking forward to where

474
00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:01.839
they go with the characters saying because very interesting, but

475
00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:07.839
I actually I chose Captainnate I Nala because because of

476
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:09.759
the scene that I just mentioned of her when she

477
00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:12.640
first walked onto the bridge and that feeling, that look

478
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:16.279
of this is all mine, you know, I'm now in charge.

479
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:20.599
I just love that. I would love to experience that,

480
00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:24.160
you know. Could you imagine, you know, being a captain

481
00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:27.240
and walking onto your ship for the very first time

482
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.079
and seeing the bridge and oh wow. And plus just

483
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:33.680
the way she you know, treats Caleb and the way,

484
00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:35.559
you know, the way she's such a like a motherly

485
00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:38.519
figure and she's proud of him when he you know,

486
00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:42.559
figures out the solution and and does everything at the end.

487
00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:44.240
So yeah, I chose her.

488
00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:46.559
I mean it's a good choice. I mean, but think

489
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:47.880
of the pressure she had. I know, if she had

490
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:49.720
captain there's a chancellor.

491
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:53.279
Yeah, there there is a lot of pressure. And I mean,

492
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:55.559
you know, Starfleet Academy has just started up after one

493
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:57.960
hundred and fifty years. You know, they this isn't the

494
00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.160
first class, but it's close to it. So there's a

495
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:04.680
lot a lot on her shoulders. You know, they have

496
00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:07.319
to be successful, and it looks like they're they're hide

497
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:10.359
heading in the right direction. They are absolutely all right,

498
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:12.759
and now we see the return of my favorite part

499
00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:15.599
of watching these episodes, where we dive deep into the

500
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:17.759
episode and see where we can pull out any Easter eggs.

501
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.279
And this series looks like it's gearing up to be

502
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:23.559
packed full of them. Judging the lost first two episodes

503
00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:25.359
a lot. I know I had to actually leave some

504
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:28.039
off the list, But David, did you spot any lets

505
00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:29.480
you let's see hear what you had?

506
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:31.880
So not to mention all the names that you see

507
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:35.799
pop up in the background during the montage. Uh, there

508
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:37.519
is a hidden one. I don't know if you saw it,

509
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:39.640
but Ambassador Garrick is there?

510
00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:43.400
No, I missed that one, and I was also Garrett.

511
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:46.920
I think that isn't fantastic that he became as ambassador.

512
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:48.079
Wow, yep, I.

513
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:51.880
Think that's fantastic. Yeah, there's there's there's so much that

514
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.319
was on us in this episode that uh, it's it's

515
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:58.119
hard to go over so much of it though. I

516
00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:01.400
like the fact that Commander thought she is Jim Harda right.

517
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.319
He gives that I am dead, I go into battle

518
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:07.599
to reclaim my life. He's basically quoting the mantra that

519
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.200
we've heard in Deep Base nine. You know, so I

520
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:13.799
don't know. I mean, I know there's something that you

521
00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:15.759
probably have, so I know how much you love the section,

522
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:16.839
so be my guest, Wayne.

523
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:19.920
Oh well, well, you know, we got gosh so much

524
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:22.839
to the period. We We've got Beaijor. We got mentioned

525
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:26.119
of the US's Discovery going undergoing a refit, which we

526
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.559
saw why in the last episode of Discovery. We got

527
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:32.279
when Sam is first talking to the Doctor, she mentions

528
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:35.400
both the Voyager and the Protostar. And I love the

529
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:37.759
fact that we're getting a little bit of love of

530
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.519
the animated series and these these shows. But you talking

531
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.839
about let's talk about alien raceist Okay, you know there

532
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.279
were so many to go over here. We got Captain

533
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.720
Egg He's she's a Lanthonite, which is the same race

534
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.799
as Pellia from a Strange New Worlds. Of course, he

535
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:59.960
got Sam's holographic race like the Doctor, though half Clan

536
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:04.440
not half jim Hidar Broncos, half Klingon and part tell Awrite,

537
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.079
which we don't see too much of that race in

538
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.079
Star Treking. Note they're so important to the Federation, but

539
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:14.279
we saw we saw Jorans Klingons for ringy Orion's quite

540
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:16.799
a few races that were first introduced in Star Trek Discovery,

541
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:19.799
and one of the cadets appears to be a share

542
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:23.599
on which is that alien race that first appeared in

543
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:26.559
the original series. Lets that be your last battlefield. The

544
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:28.960
ones that are half black white w white, right the surprise,

545
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.559
and we saw one of those in section thirty one,

546
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:35.079
But that's it. So it's nice that we're seeing a

547
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:37.799
few of these old races that we hadn't seen such

548
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.640
a long time. And then of course there's that Wall

549
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:45.839
of hero that's just one big easter eight itself. So

550
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.519
many names that you could just pause your player and

551
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.200
have fun, you know, picking them out. But you know,

552
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.599
but not all of them were main characters. That's what

553
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:58.079
I like. There's a lot of a lot of smaller names.

554
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:00.599
You know. We saw the ones that I were able

555
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:01.920
to pick out. I'm glad you picked out one that

556
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:08.839
I didn't even catch. Peter Preston, Becka Marner Toimurssulu, Samantha Wildman, Wildman,

557
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:13.000
Lieutenant Nogg's on there. And probably the biggest surprise of

558
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:17.599
the mall is Admiral Harry Kim yep, So I'm so

559
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:22.720
glad he got promoted. Finally, me too, and then finally

560
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.720
I want to point out that the captain in her

561
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.400
office has these little model starships on her shelves, and

562
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.480
I was able to spot out a Galatexy Class, an

563
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.400
Excelsior Class, and an Intrepid Class starship setting on there.

564
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.039
I do want to throw out Stephen Colbert is the

565
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:41.440
digital Dean of students.

566
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.240
Yes, yeah, we hear his voice voice.

567
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.640
You absolutely do. And one other one I want to

568
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.359
throw out there is Jennasith when she's finding the medical

569
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.200
equipment to save thought. The corridor has a couple of quotes.

570
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.359
One of them is from Jean Luc Picard. It says

571
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.599
it is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose.

572
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:02.440
That is not a weakness, that is life.

573
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:04.240
I'm glad you pointed that out too.

574
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.079
Yep. And then Jane ways that three starship captain rules

575
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:09.319
are OFFO could be a scene yep.

576
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.599
And then in the second episode there are a couple

577
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:14.839
other ones too that we're able to point out. They

578
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:16.799
must be all over the place where I look forward

579
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.559
to watching all these episodes and pointing out these East

580
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.279
trades because I know there's so much that we didn't see.

581
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.240
Yeah, there's so much that they can do with this show, Wayne,

582
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.920
I am so excited for it. I really am.

583
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.240
All right, let's take a little break and then when

584
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.599
we come back, we will go over this second episode

585
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:37.880
that aired this week. We're back, and now we move

586
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:42.720
on to the second episode in Starfleet Academy, titled Beta Test,

587
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:46.519
which is written by Naga Landau and Jane Maggs and

588
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:50.400
again directed by Alex Kurtzman. David, go ahead and give

589
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:51.440
us these synopsis.

590
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.039
As the academic year begins at Starfleet Academy, Caleb feels

591
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.880
out of place in questions whether he belongs. This changes

592
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:01.000
when a delegation from data Zeed arrived to negotiate joining

593
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:03.839
the Federation. Among them is Terrama, the daughter of betas

594
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.400
AD's leader of Presidents at All, who profoundly has a

595
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.599
huge impact on Caleb. With the Federation seeking to rebuild

596
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:12.240
and expand, they and their new allies must work together

597
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:16.279
to bring about significant change, culminating in a surprising decision

598
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:22.799
that shapes the future. So, Wayne, this episode is Harry

599
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.799
Potter Hogwarts all over it. You're getting to see the classrooms,

600
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.039
you're getting to see the teachers, you're getting to see

601
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:36.160
all around the academy. Itself, but you're also getting that again,

602
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:41.160
that Lower Decks humor throughout this episode that I absolutely

603
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.559
love that they're keeping because that's one of the things

604
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:47.119
that really made Lower Decks work so well, is that comedy,

605
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:48.720
that humor that you really didn't see a lot in

606
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.839
Star Trek at that you know, to that depth. But

607
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:54.160
they're doing it again, and I'm glad that they capture

608
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:58.720
that and are using it here. But tig Nataro as

609
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.480
jet Rena coming back the Catcher, I thought with absolutely

610
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.720
hysterical on how she gave Caleb a what for, you know,

611
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:07.920
pulling him up in front of everybody and you know,

612
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.359
confronting him about it. I thought that was well, she.

613
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:13.680
Makes a really good teacher. I'm glad I brought her

614
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:17.240
back on this series because she fits perfectly perfectly with

615
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.759
with the vibe and the feel of the show. Yeah,

616
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:23.960
this is a really interesting episode. I agree with you.

617
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.799
It did give a lot of Harry Potter vibes. Gave

618
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.880
me a lot of Star Trek Next Generation season two

619
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.880
vibes as well. There were some plot points in this

620
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.480
episode that that kind of repeated some episode some plot

621
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:39.880
points from season two of that series. But it's no

622
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.680
way in hinders it at all. I mean, I'm not

623
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.799
putting it down there because they're they're good plot points

624
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.480
and I'm kind of good at things. The big thing

625
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.799
is the Beta's ads are the betazoidscuse me, I always

626
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.400
called them beta sad betazoids, you know, They're They're they're

627
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.240
conversing with sign language, which I thought was rather interesting

628
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.920
because you've never seen though, but I'm glad that they

629
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.599
did that. I really remember remember back in the second

630
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.000
season there was that of the Next Generation. There was

631
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.160
that character that that could only sign can only yes.

632
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:12.880
I got that feeling. I think there it's very very

633
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.240
similar feels to that, and it's great that they're they're

634
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.279
using sign language and doing something like this, you know,

635
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.160
and that's something we also saw a We also saw

636
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:23.880
a character too that was in a wheelchair as well,

637
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:26.240
which was something we don't see very often in Star

638
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:28.480
Trek and I'm I'm really glad that to see them

639
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.400
them doing that as well. And then of course the

640
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.240
whole the whole kind of love story that that can't

641
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.559
be fulfilled then gave me a lot of Remember an

642
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:42.759
episode in the second season called The Dolphin with where

643
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:46.039
Wesley falls in love, but because she was of another

644
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.960
race and had important things to do, it could not

645
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.160
couldn't happened. I got a lot of feels from that,

646
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.759
but it didn't. It didn't hurt this episode at all.

647
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.279
I I I thought this was a great second episode,

648
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:58.519
you know, to following the pilot.

649
00:32:58.559 --> 00:32:58.759
It was.

650
00:32:58.839 --> 00:32:59.640
It was really well done.

651
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.279
I mean, clearly she's coming back, because she's in a

652
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:03.440
lot of the promotional stuff.

653
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:05.799
Yeah, I believe she's She's actually one of the main characters.

654
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.000
And I didn't realize that until I was doing the research,

655
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:09.920
you know. I thought she was just one off.

656
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:11.640
And how cool was that they left her for the

657
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.359
second episode to be introduced. I thought, that's cool. Instead

658
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.440
of throwing everything in the pilot, you save one of

659
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:17.079
the main characters.

660
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.160
I prefer them to do that. I prefer really do.

661
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.160
I don't like them shoving everything into one episode. It's

662
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.759
nice to to develop and introduce some of these characters

663
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:26.240
are a little bit of time yep.

664
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.839
The one scene that I thought was totally Harry potterish

665
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.960
is when Thought was teaching the class and she was

666
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.279
confronting everybody, and it really gets into the face of

667
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:37.799
that one cadet and she takes off running. I love

668
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:39.799
that because she's like I can always pick out the runner.

669
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:42.319
Yeah, yeah, that.

670
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:47.839
It was absolutely But one of the things that really

671
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:51.119
made me laugh too was, uh, when Caleb found out

672
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.519
who his dreammate was. The door opens and it was like, oh,

673
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:54.279
hell no.

674
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.960
Yeah, but you know, I liked how I liked it

675
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.880
was resolved. This is one of the things that that's

676
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:07.079
because the end of this episode was really well done. Yeah,

677
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:11.599
they always they introduced them as kind of being rivals,

678
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:13.639
and I wasn't sure if I was okay with that,

679
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.880
you know, maybe a little bit, but I'm glad that

680
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:21.400
you saw a little bit of a spark of brotherhood

681
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:23.679
at the end. And I kind of liked that the

682
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:25.440
way they were making when he was making the bed

683
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.159
and then he comes and helps, and I I like that.

684
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:29.760
I like to see where their relationship's going to.

685
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.039
You can you can still tell there's gonna be that

686
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.039
that that jock vibe between the two of them, where

687
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.280
they're going to get on each other, you know, kind of.

688
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.760
Like yeah, I mean, you got you know, two characters.

689
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.000
One one character you'd say he's just you know, from

690
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:43.719
the wrong side of the street, and yep, and the

691
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.880
other ones, the the spoiled rich boy. Yeah, exactly, definitely

692
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:48.400
gonna be some conflict there.

693
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.840
But yeah, I think another scene that was really well done,

694
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.039
and again this speaks to Nala's character, is when she's

695
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.000
walking around barefoot. Wayne. I love that so much because

696
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.599
there was like everybody's look at like the one officer

697
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:05.360
that was from with what the War part, Sharlee, He's

698
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.280
like looking at her like she he's disgusted with her.

699
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.480
He's kind of in his own way telling her off,

700
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.239
and she's like, Hey, I'm the captain. I can do

701
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.920
whatever I want. The way it's going to be the.

702
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.000
Facial expression he gives her when she gives that speech

703
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.000
towards the end, he's he's like kind of like what

704
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.079
you know, Like are you kidding me right now? But

705
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.199
I love it, and I love how Vance was taking

706
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.559
a back seat and just laughing about it. He was

707
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:32.920
enjoying it so much.

708
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.239
Hey, you know, if if Jean Luke Maccaarry can walk

709
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:39.039
around the enterprises his pajamas and robes, and she can

710
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.039
walk around barefoot on her barefoot on her ship, she

711
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:42.800
has every right to.

712
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:47.079
Absolutely she does, damn it. But just and there's just

713
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:49.400
so much stuff going in this episode that I love, man,

714
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.119
I'm telling it had it just got so much great humor.

715
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.800
And again they're starting to develop the characters a little bit,

716
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:58.199
but not too much yet, you know, with the exception

717
00:35:58.199 --> 00:35:59.760
a few I mean, we still get a lot of

718
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.960
lot of Caleb, which we need to because he's the

719
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:05.000
main character. We know that. And we get the relationship

720
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.880
more between Caleb and Naa. We're getting more of that.

721
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.760
But how about them bringing about the humpback whales. How

722
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:11.119
about that?

723
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:16.840
Wayne? Oh yes, yes, that very interesting. You know, there's

724
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.159
very been very little reference in any of Star Trek

725
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:22.519
to good old Star Trek, for the Voyage Home is

726
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:26.320
most one of the most popular. I know, it's hardly

727
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:29.679
gets gets mentioned. But I'm so glad because you know,

728
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:33.039
apparently George and Gracie did quite well after they did

729
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:34.719
the bounty brought him back. I mean, because you know,

730
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.880
a hundred our thousand years later and there humpback waves

731
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:41.119
whales are thriving. So it's nice to hear that.

732
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:43.239
And even the line when you go, she's pregnant.

733
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.960
Oh yeah, we definitely, yeah, yeah, we.

734
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.320
Know what we're going for here. That's for dang sure.

735
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.199
But no, I thought that was pretty cool. Another thing

736
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.159
that was hysterical too, when Caleb had that mucus all

737
00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:59.119
over him and he's coming back to the conference and

738
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:02.519
he's trying to his coat up and like the doctors

739
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:05.320
trying to stop him, and all was like leaning forward

740
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:09.320
looking like lips lipping no to him. It was so.

741
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:12.880
Oh, I loved it when he first got it on him,

742
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.000
and that that the one guy just suddenly appeared and

743
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:18.639
started spraying off with the foam and stuff. That that

744
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:22.199
made me like, the poor guy, it looks like he

745
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.400
he reminded me of someone that just got smashed in

746
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:26.239
the face with a pie. That's what he looked like.

747
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:30.000
You know. And then I think, if I remember correctly,

748
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.639
she makes a reference to Caleb Tamara as they're walking

749
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:36.280
around about because they're kind of you can tell there's

750
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.480
kind of a relationship starting to build here between the

751
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:41.239
two of them, and she's talking about betas in and

752
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.320
how the the weddings are you gotta be naked? Oh,

753
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.440
here here we go. We're getting some references that we

754
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:47.440
know from the next generation.

755
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:50.519
Yeah, it was it's really nice to see betas that,

756
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:54.679
you know what, we we've got this new era of

757
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.400
Star Trek. This this this thirty second century, and and well,

758
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.880
I know we have three seasons of it. Discovery really

759
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.360
didn't go in depth into the Federation itself, and went

760
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.559
into depth and to Starfleet, but not the Federation. It

761
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:12.400
looks like this show's geared to do that. Yeah, I'm

762
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.360
kind of glad because we're seeing a different hole side

763
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.239
of Star Trek of the thirty second century.

764
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:16.440
It was.

765
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:19.880
I've I've been very interested in that era. I thought

766
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.039
it was a great idea, absolutely wonderful idea when Discovery

767
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.920
jumped to the thirty second because all new everything, you know,

768
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:27.519
new Animal, I mean, we you know, we get to

769
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.719
see what happened to all our favorite races and characters

770
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:33.480
in the Federation, you know, all this after all that time.

771
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:38.800
And I'm glad to see Beta's Ed coming back into

772
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:41.519
the Federation. We see that that development because I've always

773
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:44.239
I always loved I thought that was an interesting plant.

774
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:45.679
We never saw that to see very much of it

775
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.239
on the next generation other than Deanna troy Ye walks

776
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:54.400
Animal and what I don't remember exactly what he said

777
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:59.320
his his titles at Beta's Ed, but definitely got a

778
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.880
lot of the walks and advised from from his titles

779
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:05.559
and stuff that. Oh yeah, yeah, you know, it's interesting

780
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:06.719
things like that.

781
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:10.039
It's interesting because as you talk about that, I see

782
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:13.440
why they're doing this. They've wiped the slate clean basically,

783
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.559
but still keeping the the history of Star Trek here.

784
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:19.239
Yes, and it's it's definitely here.

785
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.039
Yeah, and I like that that way. It needs to

786
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.960
be done so that we can get into new stories,

787
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.320
new alien races, new exploration, new everything. It needed to

788
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.320
be done. You know, you and I have talked and

789
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.400
Scott has talked that, you know, we would love to

790
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:37.039
go back and revisit you know, the next duration era

791
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.199
and stuff like that. Sure you wouldn't, but we've got to.

792
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:43.159
We got to come to realization that we need something new.

793
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:44.559
And they've done it.

794
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:49.280
Oh yeah, this is definitely new, definitely different, but very

795
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:53.119
grounded in the Star Trek universe. And they've got it.

796
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:54.239
It's a perfect mix.

797
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:57.599
So let me ask you, what how do you feel

798
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:03.079
about the bold move of moving the Federation to Betas.

799
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:07.880
I think that's brilliant. I think you know, it's always

800
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.159
been in Paris. You know, we've seen that many many times.

801
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.559
They need they needed Betazet they needed. They're trying to

802
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:18.599
rebuild the federation. They debate betas always have always been

803
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.960
a member for so long and moving the head. And

804
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.880
you know, the planet Beta zet was is a beautiful

805
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.800
planet from what we saw. It's got a lot of history,

806
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.440
but a lot of importance to the Federation. And it

807
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.400
was a good move to bring to bring the head

808
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.880
through the government to Beta zet An off of Earth.

809
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.360
Very bold move, I will say that, because the Earth

810
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.039
has always been the head of the government of the Federation.

811
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:44.440
Now it's now it's being moved.

812
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.360
Good idea I think they're doing. And again it's doing

813
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:49.840
that whole let's let's change things up. Yes, you know,

814
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.199
and that's that's what that's doing. And I appreciate the

815
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.079
writer doing that and taking that move. It works perfectly

816
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:55.679
for the theories.

817
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:59.320
I hope. I hope, because we we've now seen two

818
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.960
planets that were so familiar with you know, we we

819
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:04.480
sell Bajor and we sell sell Beta set. I hope

820
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.400
we do continue to see some of the other planets,

821
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.440
you know, if we're trying to rebuild the Federation, you know,

822
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.559
and bring back some of the original members and see

823
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:14.840
some new planets new members too, because we definitely, we

824
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.440
definitely wouldn't want to see some new ones we ye know,

825
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:19.800
I hope we get that, and I think we will.

826
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.400
Yeah, have you noticed, I know, they they they we

827
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:25.599
got a couple of Vulcan characters, but they've kind of

828
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:30.079
stayed away from them a little bit, if you've noticed heavy.

829
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.440
Yeah, and they they they kind of addressed that in Discovery.

830
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:34.719
It was a third season or I think it was

831
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.760
third season, where you know, Vulcan's a mess from here.

832
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.639
They just don't even called Vulcan anymore. I can't think

833
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:42.320
of what's called. They changed the name of the planet.

834
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:47.119
It's Neval, I think, yeah, and so it's it's kind

835
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:48.239
of a mess. You know, it was one of the

836
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:52.039
most important planets of the Federation. I don't remember if

837
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:53.800
there's I don't think there's. I don't think there's still

838
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:56.280
a member anymore. I think they they also separated as well.

839
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:58.039
I don't remember. I'll have to go back. It's been

840
00:41:58.039 --> 00:41:59.840
a while since I watched Discovery, but I don't think

841
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:01.559
they became a member. So we may see them again.

842
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:03.840
I know we will. I know we eventually will see them.

843
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:05.920
Do you know what we saw some feringis walking around.

844
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:10.400
They looked a little different too, They did way different. Yep,

845
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.320
we saw there were a lot of a lot of races,

846
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.119
a lot of familiar races, a lot of new ones.

847
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:17.639
It's kind of it's kind of great to have to

848
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:19.760
pick these old ones out. There was a couple of

849
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:20.440
surprises too.

850
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:24.800
Yeah, there absolutely is. Man, I'm so excited for Thursday

851
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:26.679
to watch episode three. So excited.

852
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:28.760
Now I want I want to talk to you about

853
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:30.960
because we didn't get this in the first episode. We

854
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:33.440
got it now. The title sequence. What did you think

855
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:34.320
of the title sequence?

856
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.039
It's different and I like it because here's the thing.

857
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.480
This is show. This series is wiping things clean, and

858
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:43.440
you're building up a new series. You're building up an academy,

859
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.000
and the cadets are the lifeblood of Starfleet in the Federation,

860
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:52.679
and I feel like the main title sequence says that,

861
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:55.119
and I like it, I really do.

862
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:58.760
Yeah, I do like the new title sequence I liked

863
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.239
in the first EPISO. So we didn't get a title sequence.

864
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.519
Now we got an end credit sequence. Really nice in

865
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:05.519
credit me. I like that, though I wish I could

866
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.239
use both. But I like the background. I like the

867
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:10.719
way they did it for that first episode. But yeah,

868
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:12.480
the title sequence and then we've got of course we

869
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:16.519
get to hear the main theme this is It's a

870
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:19.920
great theme, okay, but there's something very odd about it.

871
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.960
And I listened to it like six times because I

872
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.679
wanted to make sure that I was not mishearing it.

873
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.480
But the opening bars, I'd say about the opening four

874
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.840
or five bars of that theme is nope, per note

875
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:37.840
exactly the opening five bars of Jerry Goldsmith's idea theme

876
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:40.079
from Star Trek in the motion picture exactly.

877
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.840
Oh wow, I didn't recognize that. Good cat.

878
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.679
And after watching it quite a few times and listening

879
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.320
to it, I'm like, I know that that's exactly it.

880
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:50.360
I went and did a little research. I'm not the

881
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:52.239
only one that's saying that. So many else is saying

882
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.039
that it is exactly. I don't. Is it done on

883
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.119
purpose or is it just pure coincidence. I'd like to know,

884
00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.599
But yeah, it's an odd that's an odd choice. But

885
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:04.119
I like it. Yeah, I love Jerry Goldsmith anyways, but

886
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:05.960
I like it. It kind of reminds me of what

887
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:08.559
Russell did with the card and how he kind of

888
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:10.440
they say that a little bit of the next generation

889
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:12.639
and a little bit of inner light them in there.

890
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.159
Ye. So, speaking of the score, I know we kind

891
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.960
of mentioned it in episode one with Russo's score, how

892
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:22.320
unusual it was for this episode. Yeah, throughout the entire thing.

893
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:25.800
It was like really almost jazzy at times and just

894
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:29.719
really crazy for us Star Trek episode.

895
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:32.960
Different, definitely a different, but it works. Yes, Yes, Yes,

896
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.800
I'm glad he's experimenting. I'm glad he's trying new things

897
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.440
because that's what the series needs to The whole series

898
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:41.519
is trying new things. Music should be two.

899
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:44.280
Yeah, absolutely, And you're right when you said earlier that

900
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:46.639
it feels like he's got so much room now to

901
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.960
explore themes that I'm hoping that's what he does throughout

902
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:51.679
the rest of this season. I really did.

903
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.599
Yeah, all right, Well, we're going to turn the spotlight

904
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.039
to the main characters again. So which character do you

905
00:44:58.159 --> 00:44:59.280
say shines the most?

906
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.559
So I'm gonna have to go with Caleb on this one.

907
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:07.239
Wayne when he first reacts to Harmon when she is

908
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:09.920
trying to learn who he is, and he backs away

909
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:14.199
in fear, but then later realizes his mistakes and races

910
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.280
to speak with her before she leaves and he pours

911
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:22.480
his heart out to her. I respect that because Caleb

912
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.679
is this very well rounded character because he, as you said,

913
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:27.480
he's from the wrong side of the street, and he

914
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.360
could be that character that is only one dimensional with

915
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:36.480
that type, but he's not. They have written him where yeah,

916
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.559
he still is. He could be the bad boy the

917
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:43.679
whole time, but he's not. He's actually trying to do

918
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:47.239
the right thing and he's just trying to reconnect with

919
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.599
his mom but also trying to put the pieces together.

920
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.039
Where he's at right now at this academy and he

921
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:56.159
doesn't feel like he fits in at all. He doesn't

922
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:58.840
fit in with her, He doesn't fit in with his friends,

923
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:00.800
but he doesn't really see them as friends yet, right,

924
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:03.840
he doesn't. He just sees them as these people he's

925
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:07.079
you know, he's around, and I think at the end,

926
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:11.000
when he's getting help with his bed being made, I

927
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:14.679
feel like that is that connection that he's starting to

928
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.800
settle in a little bit because he realizes Nala is

929
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.119
trying to help him, and now he's starting to realize,

930
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.320
you know what, maybe if I stay here, I might

931
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:29.400
be able to find my mom. So that is why

932
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:31.639
I think he just blew it out of the water.

933
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:32.519
This one that character.

934
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:38.400
Oh yeah again, agree, this is his episode. Yep, you

935
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.920
know by far. It's he's the main character of the series.

936
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:43.960
You know, he really is, and and they needed an

937
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:49.320
episode specifically with him. It's it's a great showcase for

938
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.559
the actor and for the character. And you're you're right.

939
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:56.440
I love how it's he's so conflicted throughout the entire episode,

940
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.320
doesn't know if he wants he doesn't want to be

941
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.000
there right well, he's got his own and he feels

942
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.079
like they're just being there and everybody around him and

943
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:05.000
all this this crap that you know, with the school

944
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:08.239
and is just hindering him from trying to find his mother.

945
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:14.079
But he slowly starts to develop, you know, realize that

946
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:17.280
that you know, they can help him on his goal,

947
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:20.760
you know. And then at the end the symbolism of

948
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:23.880
him having to make the bed that he's kind of

949
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:26.280
finding a little bit of of his place there.

950
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:26.800
Yep.

951
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.880
I like that and it Yeah, it's definitely his episode.

952
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.199
And I hope from from this episode. You know, they

953
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:34.039
had to do an episode with him right away because

954
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:35.920
he's the main character. But I have a feeling like

955
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.599
kind of like what they did with strange new worlds

956
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.480
that they're going to start doing these characters centric episodes

957
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:43.360
where each helpil will get their own storyline. I do too,

958
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:43.920
I hope.

959
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.480
So yep, absolutely all right.

960
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.199
If you had the choice of any character that you

961
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:50.519
want to be, who would it be?

962
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:53.000
And why I'm gonna go with Caleb again only for

963
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:55.199
one major reason because he gets to hang out with

964
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:57.000
Karama because he is beautiful.

965
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:02.719
Oh I know, I know, Oh yeah, it's I had

966
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:06.079
to say him too, because although that's a that's a

967
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:10.280
really really good reason. I just I just liked the

968
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:14.760
way his character was developed throughout the episode. And you know,

969
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.920
I got to realize that by watching this series, I

970
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:19.559
would love.

971
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:21.159
To go to Starfleet Academy me too.

972
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:22.840
I mean, when you know, I mean, it looks like

973
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:26.559
such a great place, whether it be the twenty fourth

974
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.360
century version or the thirty second century version, it looks

975
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.679
like a great place. And and I'm envious of him,

976
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:34.199
So that's why would be.

977
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:39.960
How about the whole scene in office where he dismisses himself.

978
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.480
I laughed at that line, and.

979
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:44.880
Then he goes to the wrong way and then he

980
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:45.760
has to go the other thing.

981
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:50.039
Oh yeah, all right, I think it's time to take

982
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:54.000
another break and after our messages, we'll be back with

983
00:48:54.480 --> 00:49:00.400
more on Star Trek Starfleet Academy. And we're back, and

984
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:02.840
of course we'll see if there's any Easter eggs found

985
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:04.599
in this episode, and of course there is. Did you

986
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:06.119
find any, David? So?

987
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:10.400
I found a few, but I want to go back

988
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:14.360
to one thing because I forgot one major Easter egg

989
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:15.920
from the first one. I want to make sure it

990
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.159
gets said Wayne. Okay, when Braca puts his hand up

991
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:21.320
against the glass and is the Vulcan symbol.

992
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.599
It's the sarcastic wall.

993
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:26.400
I know that, but I just I love that. I

994
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.480
love it. It's almost like a nod to the Wrath

995
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.280
of Khan with you know, between the glass.

996
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:31.440
I never thought of that.

997
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:33.239
Yeah, that's the way I saw it, you know.

998
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:36.119
I saw it more of remember where Marner is given

999
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.079
the sarcastic Yeah, I was thinking more like that. But yeah,

1000
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:39.920
you're I could see that.

1001
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:44.039
Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. Again we mentioned

1002
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.559
the fringy again. He shown up here with a different

1003
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.960
makeup obisy, because I believe there is in Discovery's fourth season,

1004
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:51.920
right if I remember.

1005
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.480
Yeah, and they were they did little slight redesigned. They've

1006
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:56.440
done a little bit more in here. You know. It

1007
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:59.480
reminds me of the way I'm trying to remember the

1008
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.760
name of the character. The person who designed you, which

1009
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:05.719
original FARANKI back in eighty seven. He did it was more.

1010
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:08.719
It was not quite as refined as we saw in

1011
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:10.800
the series, and that reminded me a lot of the

1012
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:12.880
original look his original sketches.

1013
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.679
Yep, both the Memorial Park, I thought that was a

1014
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:17.159
nice tich.

1015
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:18.079
That was nice.

1016
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:22.119
Yeah, yep, the Ahorror Pavilion, which I thought was pretty cool.

1017
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.079
And then the last one that I caught was the

1018
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:30.000
on campus clubs and events included Association of Kardashian Cadets,

1019
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:35.960
the Neuroscience Club, something called Escape Starships, the Earth Science Club,

1020
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:39.440
the Philosophy Society, and the Model Federation Diplomacy Club.

1021
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.360
I love yeah, yeah, I love this too. And I

1022
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.559
don't even have this in my notes, but you reminded me.

1023
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:52.719
The War Academy's mascot is a mugatu. Oh yeah, yeah,

1024
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.400
I saw that. And I can't remember what they're called,

1025
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:59.599
but the Academy itselfs there. Oh I wish I could.

1026
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.480
I wish I wrote these down. Their mascot is that

1027
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:06.079
little weird creature thing that we saw in the most Toys.

1028
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:10.480
When Data was looking at it, it was speaking noise. Yeah.

1029
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:12.760
By the way, before you talk about your ether eggs,

1030
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.880
how about starkly having a war academy that's new for

1031
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:16.440
Star Trek.

1032
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.159
That's interesting. You notice some of the cadets are wearing

1033
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:24.199
black uniforms. Yeah, wondering. I hope they don't just gloss

1034
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:27.400
over that because I'm very, very curious about that. I mean,

1035
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:31.159
are we talking about something similar to like the Federation Marines?

1036
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:33.760
Are we talking Section thirty one type of people? I

1037
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:36.559
want to know more about this me too. I'm very curious,

1038
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:38.440
and I'm hoping you're right. They're not gonna sleep. There's

1039
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:40.559
no way they're gonna freep that down. No, No, it

1040
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:42.639
was too prominent in this episode for them just you know,

1041
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:43.320
forget about it.

1042
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.840
Absolutely. Well, let's hear your wing, all right.

1043
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:48.119
Well, you know, as I mentioned, more races appear. You

1044
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.840
mentioned a couple of them. Of course, we got the Betasoids,

1045
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:55.280
but I also spotted a Romulan, which is nice to

1046
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:57.480
know that they're still around after the events of the

1047
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:01.039
card and everything. But there is a and This is

1048
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:02.800
the first time I've ever seen in one of these

1049
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:08.039
races since the original series A volume. You might remember

1050
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:10.119
there was an episode of the original series called the Apple.

1051
00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:13.320
She had the you know, the big computer in the

1052
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.199
in the mouth type of thing, and we've never seen

1053
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:18.679
them before. And I'm pretty sure with her orange skin

1054
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:20.960
and that white hair, that's what they were trying to

1055
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.599
go for. But I was really excited to see a

1056
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.760
brick card. Oh yeah, live action for the first time,

1057
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.639
you know, from Star Trek Prodigy Cock. Yes, exactly, one yea.

1058
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:35.760
Once again, I'm so glad that we are seeing some

1059
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:39.360
love to the to the animated series and bringing them

1060
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:41.880
properly into the continuity. They were always part of the continuity,

1061
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:44.760
but a lot of people would dismiss them because their animation.

1062
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.480
You know, we mentioned that many times before. You can't

1063
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:53.679
dismiss them. Now there they are, right right, Okay, don't

1064
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:57.519
forget about the exocomph. Yeah, we saw one of them

1065
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.159
and the exo comp's name which was in the incre as.

1066
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:05.320
You might have missed us. This almond basket which yeah,

1067
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:09.920
maybe possibly a descended a peanut hamper and the voice

1068
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:11.280
is done by the same actors.

1069
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:11.880
I hope it is.

1070
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:19.159
You mentioned the two quotes, one from Picard and one

1071
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:21.360
from Jane Jane Way. There was also a quote in

1072
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:25.280
this episode from Cisco and from Captain Pike as well.

1073
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:27.679
It's so nice to see three nine getting some love.

1074
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.360
I agree, yes, And I hear we're going to be

1075
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.400
getting a little bit more too. And I think it's

1076
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:33.840
the episode of the fourth episode.

1077
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:35.239
I believe it's good, so good.

1078
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.719
I'm really curious to hear what they got. We got

1079
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.400
another shot of the Wall of Heroes with more names

1080
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:45.280
appearing on there. I caught the character of Tendy Law

1081
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.599
Noone and singh Will Decker, Admiral Shelby, Admiral John L. Piccard,

1082
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.480
and Gillian Taylor as well another Star Trek four reference,

1083
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.880
which I'm glad. You know, you know, take a look

1084
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:57.880
at the wall, pause it. You'll have fun reading all

1085
00:53:57.920 --> 00:53:58.079
of it.

1086
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:03.599
Yep, you will. How about Nala giving the When she's

1087
00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:06.880
giving her her speech, she says, boldly, go where no

1088
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:07.840
one has gone before.

1089
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:13.800
Oh yeah, nice, nice hearing that. Yeah, well, it sounds

1090
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:17.760
like we had two great episodes to open up. I'm

1091
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.960
really glad. It's a very very strong opening, probably one

1092
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:24.880
of the strongest openings I can see from most of

1093
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:28.360
the TV series that I can think of. Ye, so

1094
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:31.239
we're offer to a really good start. I mean, do

1095
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:31.800
you agree with me?

1096
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:35.199
I absolutely agree. Cannot wait to see the rest of

1097
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:36.679
this season. Cannot wait.

1098
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:38.400
I can't how many there's ten episodes?

1099
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:38.800
Is in there?

1100
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.280
Yes? Okay, yeah, ten episodes? I wish they do more,

1101
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:44.119
but hey, it's going to be a great.

1102
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:45.960
Ride, I believe, Yeah, I do. I agree.

1103
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:49.159
And that's it for this week's episode, a Phaser sets

1104
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:52.679
to Stuns look at the new series Star Trek Starfleet Academy.

1105
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:55.360
We'd like to open a channel to our listeners and

1106
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:57.960
hear just what you thought about the most recent episodes

1107
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.719
and the season in general. Who knows those who might

1108
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:03.519
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1109
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:05.679
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1110
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.320
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1111
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1114
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hidden within. Thank you David for joining me and the

1115
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.960
listeners for another fascinating discussion of Star Trek.

1116
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:26.239
Absolutely, as a last cannot wait to keep more.

1117
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:29.679
The next episode is titled and I had to dig

1118
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:32.320
for this because they really are not very very forthgoing

1119
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:37.000
with their titles and goods. It's Vitus Reflux. Gives me

1120
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.679
no clue on what it's about, but it's the third

1121
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.760
episode of the season. They're keeping everything very tight lipped,

1122
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:46.880
so who knows. But as always, we look forward to

1123
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:49.639
returning to the thirty second century and the classrooms of

1124
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.920
Starfleet Academy. You can find us here each week reviewing

1125
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.639
every new episode as they premiere. So until next week,

1126
00:55:57.440 --> 00:55:57.679
I think

1127
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