Feb. 4, 2026

Phasers Set To Stun: Starfleet Academy S1. E4 - Vox in Excelso

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Season 7 Phasers Set To Stun

On Phasers Set To Stun, we recognize the popularity of all things Star Trek, with a look at the television shows, animation, movies, and much more!

This year marks the 60th anniversary of Star Trek and we've got an exciting new series to watch! Wayne, David, and Scott will be discussing plots, sharing their favorite characters, and revealing all the Easter eggs within Star Trek: Starfleet Academy!

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Space the Final Frontier. Join us for a bold conversation

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our prime directive to recap our favorite Star Trek shows,

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both new and old, to engage and debate about all

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things Trek. Prepare to energize with Phasers Set to Stunt.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Phaser Set the Stunt,

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where we continue to show our love for everything Star

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Trek and its ongoing series from a film by podcast

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which focuses on every quadrant of the expanding universe of

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Trek by covering television, animation, movies, directors, merchandise, and so

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much more. Plotting the course, as always is your Core

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Trek crew. I'm David Burns.

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I'm Scott Hoffman, and I'm Wayne Whited.

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In this episode, we are continuing our discussion of the

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brand new series Starfleet Academy with Episode four Vox and

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Excelso and as usual, red alert listeners. If you're not

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caught up with a series, please go do so, as

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there are mini spoilers ahead. We will be right here

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at the Academy waiting well. Gentlemen. We get a narrative

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driven episode where we learn about a certain klingon in

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his backstory. I do have to say we finally get

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a great episode for the Klingons in this new world

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of Trek, But before we get any farther, Scott, please

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tell us what it's about.

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Sure. During the Burn, the Cleons were forced from their

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home world of Chronos, and the surviving houses scattered throughout

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the quatern The Doctor refers to the Cleons as a diaspora,

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which is a large group of people from one ancestral

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homeland who are scattered. They connected their heritage while living elsewhere.

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This situation becomes more harrowing when a cargo ship carrying

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members of the last eight Clayon houses suffers a critical

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failure in crashes. As a result, Chancellor n Allah tries

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to find a way to help the Klangons survive by

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providing them with a new, stable home world, but the

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Klanons don't want their don't want to compromise their culture

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in the process. Among those houses in peril is Jaden's family,

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who are on board that ship and possibly dead. The

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topic of how to preserve Klingon culture whilst helping them

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survive becomes part of a debate class between Jayden and

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his classmates. This episode does a great job of focusing

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on the skills behind the best courtroom episodes in Star

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Trek and shows us the way forward for one of

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the most important species in the quadrum.

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Very good. So I'm curious here, I want your first

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reaction of this episode. Wayne, I'll let you go first.

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Well, you know, I think this episode is probably going

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to stand out as one of the strong longest of

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the season because we got exactly what I was hoping

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for with Starfleet Academy with this series, you know, and

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honest to god true Star Trek episode.

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That's how I felt.

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That actually goes into exploring, you know, the state of

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the Federation and the galaxy of the thirty second century

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as well as you know, developed that world even more.

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And that's what I was really hoping for. And in

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this case, it was the Klingons. You know, I don't

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remember much about the Klingons once in the last few

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seasons of Discovery. I don't think they were really talked

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about very much. It's nice that we're we're learning more

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about what has happened to him over the eight hundred years.

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I really appreciate how Starfleet Academy is setting up their

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type of storytelling, you know, about finding your voice. That's

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basically what the episode was about without you know, without

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losing that that that classic Star Trek feel of that

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that whole optimism that they they've always carried throughout Star Trek.

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You know, the character here they felt natural. They failed

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to justified everything that they were doing, every movement they made,

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every every speech, every comment they made felt very justified.

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For this, you know, this the cadets, they were forced

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to step up, challenge the authority, decide what kind of

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officers they're really, you know, they want to become. You know,

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this episode may have just given us a slight glimpse

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into each one of these characters and where they're destined

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to go to in years you know that the series runs.

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I'm very curious, but I really really liked this episode.

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This is probably my favorite so far the four interesting Scott.

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I feel like I appreciated it more at the end

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and on the second viewing. Originally there were a lot

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of time in the original viewing, I feel like there

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were sometimes when it felt a little slow and a

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little flat, and I think it was just the Jaden

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flashbacks felt like it was it was taking a while

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to get through them. There's a lot of kind of

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slow parts to them. I'm trying to get more of

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a grasp of what kind of character Jaden wants to be.

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You know, in the Cleon culture, you have a Klingon

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who doesn't want to be a warrior. I guess more specifically,

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he doesn't want to be the traditional kind of warrior.

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He has his own kind of path that he wants

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to follow. He has his own definition of who he

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wants to be, and he's trying to figure out who

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he is and who he wants to be as a

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as a Klingon. Right at the same time, he's trying

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to make an argument for letting the Klingons remain who

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they want to be, so I can see like their

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broader application, the broader meaning of it. But it did

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feel for me like in the first half it felt

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like it was a little slow going. I also, I

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was I was just kind of caught off guard by

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the you know, the resolution to it, which I'm sure

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we'll we'll get into kind of the battle.

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That was put on.

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It felt very ceremonial, or it felt maybe because it.

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Was it was I know, but yeah, I don't know.

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There was part of me that was just kind of like,

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but would that satisfy what they want. Mm hmm, Like

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would that feel like enough of a battle, enough of

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a conquest to let them have that? It almost kind

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of felt like a battle that was offered to the

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Cleans And I understand like the the meaning behind it,

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but I don't know. Those are the things that just

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kind of caught me off guard by it. I think

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in a second watching I was able to appreciate a

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little bit more because I knew where it was going

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and how it would be reconciled. Yeah, first pass just

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kind of caught me off guard. Dave, what about you?

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So I'm the opposite of you? Wayne. I feel this

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episode is the weakest so far of the series. It's

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gonna take a lot to beat the pilot. For me,

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it's gonna take a ton to beat the pilot because

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that felt that felt so theatrical. This felt very television

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to me, which I'm not putting that down by no

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means this is a TV series, I get it. But

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I agree with partial Scott this too, because I felt

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like the first few scenes with the Klingons, the flashbacks

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felt awkward, out of place. I don't know if it's

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the way they were filmed, the way they were shot

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or the way they were performed, but something felt off,

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something felt weird, that just didn't set right with me. Eventually,

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by the time we got to the resolution, I was

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okay with it, you know, and I was comfortable. I

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felt like I knew what they were going with the story.

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And then I like the fact that Jayden stepped up

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to be that he was afraid of public speaking, but

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he realized what he needed to do because his people,

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his his race needed him to step up into that situation.

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So I get all of that, but as a whole episode,

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I don't know. It's just some of it just didn't

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work for me at all. And I love the fact

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that we got a powerful Klingon story, and you know,

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I'm glad of that because we have been missing that

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for a very very long time, and you know, at

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times they've kind of beat the gLing On stories to death,

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you know, the next generation did and those kinds of things.

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But we've missed that for a while, and now we've

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got that back, and I appreciate what they were doing.

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I loved David is it Keeley? I think it is

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who played Wolke Walsick, Obell Walsick. I love his relationship

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with Nala. I thought the scene between the two of

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them felt very genuine, But overall I was not a

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big fan of this episode, So I feel like I

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could be on an island by myself here and and

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I kind of I agree with both of you on

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the ending stuff with the battle. I see why they

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did it, But at the same time, I felt like

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the Klingons from the next duration would have been like,

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what the hell are you doing? We're not going to

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accept this as a battle to win this planet. Am

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I wrong in thing of it that way?

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Because I don't feel like, well, I mean, the way

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I saw it is, you know, we're talking about Klingons

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that are pretty close to the near extinction. You know,

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they have been really really beaten down. I think they

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they all, every every ship in that battle knew what

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was going on. It wasn't like it was being hidden

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or not. It was obviously this was ceremonial and you know,

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it's just something that they're going through the motions. But

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I think they all knew that they had they needed

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this planet. The Klingons wanted this planet. But they just

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they're their traditions, they're they're they're on or all that

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stuff which they they hold so dearly. They needed, they

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needed that, they needed that gesture to to be able

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to to to justify taking the planet. It's I I

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do understand. I understand where what you're talking about. I

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understand what you're going from. But I'm actually rather surprised

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because some of your reasespecially Scott, some of your reasons

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that that you said put you off of this episode

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a little bit, are actually the reasons that I like

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this episode, and that is its slower pace. I thought

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it did a great job of blending that that old school,

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take your time trek feel that with the more modern

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you know, Star Trek series is fast paced stuff that

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we we get. You know, we got the debate, the

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the ethics, the personal state that I loved during the

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Next Generations era. You know, it reminded me a lot

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of the episodes like the Drumhead or or The Major

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of a Man, or especially the Star Trek Voyager episode

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author author, which the Doctor even references in this episode.

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It's it's very similar in style and tone, but it's

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framed through the yellow the younger cadets who they're really

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they're just.

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Trying to figure themselves out you know.

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We're still very very early on this, but that's why

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it makes this, that that old star Trek trope feel fresh.

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You know, I always believe to the TV screen, And

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that's really odd because I've mentioned over and over again

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I don't like the Klingons, you know, I have said

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that I was very very well known, but I I

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like this. I found them rather interesting. I found that

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found this this new it's not exactly a new take,

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but a new era in there, you know, having to

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find out what happened to him after eight hundred years

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that it's it could lead to some very interesting storytelling

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in the future, not just for the Cleons but for

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oh his the character's name is. I can't remember now,

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it's all the top of my head. But I may

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have to change my opinion on the Klingons in this era.

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Really will Yeah, I mean I again, I'm torn with it,

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I really am. I understand what you're talking about with

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the flower pace and stuff like that, but if you

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had twenty four episodes in a season, okay, sure, take

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your time, but you don't have those long seasons anymore.

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You can't beat around the bush anymore. So I don't

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know I get it. I like this the character driven episodes,

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and I guess, and it's a double edged sword for me.

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I guess. There are some scenes in this episode that

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I absolutely loved. The one thing that I absolutely loved

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was the scene between Thok and Aiden or Jaden. I

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thought that was incredible when she came out and basically,

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you know, not as an instructor, more of an ambassador

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kind of thing. And I don't know if she used

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the ambassador term or not. I don't remember exactly what

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her phrasing was, but just speaking to him as almost

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like a friend and explained to her where she came from.

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And in getting that, you know, getting him to calm down.

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And by the end of that speech, that conversation, you know,

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he had that get me back onto that debate basically

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because he realized what he needed to do, what he

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needed to say. And I really like that because we've

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we've had a lot of Nala and Caleb. It's nice

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to have Thok in somebody else. And I felt that

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was appropriate for this episode that Thalk was involved with him,

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because obviously, you know, she's part Klingon, right, and so

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they needed that connection, that relationship. So I appreciated that,

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so I thought that was the best scene in the

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entire episode in my opinion.

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Yeah, I think that was a strong scene, and it's

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one that then stuck with me and I I love

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in every episode. I think she steals the scenes. Honestly.

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I think if anybody was going to counsel on helping

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to give kind of a perspective of where the kling

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I feel like what would have helped with the flashback

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scenes is if we had gotten more from them. Yeah,

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I feel like there were there sometimes when the scenes

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are kind of almost kind of like fast forward edits.

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I'm not sure how to explain that, but the ones

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where they kind of like starting to scene and then

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they kind of fast forward and then jump to a person,

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I feel like it was trying to give action where

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it really needed a little bit more dialogue. Like I

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liked his I like Jaden's relationship with his brother. I

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like the fact that his brother could see who he

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is and where he's going. I don't know, I guess

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there was just part of it that felt like it

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was missing. There I'm glad we got a little bit

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of backstory to it, but it took a while to

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hook me into it. I think where it was stronger

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was in the actual, you know, on the ship, on

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the academy, where he was trying to make his case

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forans don't out of a planet.

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Yes, that was great, all of it.

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I agree, and I do agree with you Scott on

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the splashbacks. I really do agree. I mean, I took

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me a while to understand that they were what they

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even were, what was going on there, and they were

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a little awkward. I definite understand where you're going to there.

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There's I think what it is is I didn't have

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that connection with his family at all. He got a

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tiny little bit with his brother. And to go back

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to say this, it's kind of funny because I'm complaining

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that it was too slow, but I felt like the

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scenes with the family was rushed and they should have

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taken a little bit more time with them. So we

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got to know his brother, we got to know his family,

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his dad, because yeah, when we find out what thought

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was explaining to him about what his dad was doing,

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I get that and that was powerful in itself, But

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I didn't have any feeling for any of his family

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at all. I had no emotional attachment whatsoever to any

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of them. The only time that I really get that

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emotional attachment to his brother is when he's basically calling

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Caleb his brother at the end of the episode, and

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the reason why he was doing it was because he

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felt like he didn't have enough room in his heart

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for Caleb because of his brother, Like, Okay, you know

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that's that's neat and everything, but I just didn't have

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enough time with your family, so okay, whatever, let's move on.

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I feel like something that that helped in a subsequent

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viewing is with that flashback, knowing a little bit more

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about what was going on with them after the burned

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and having a difficult time probably keeping the culture intact

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because they're so spread out. I wasn't quite sure if

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they were on a planet with I mean, I guess

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they were on a planet with other Klingons because there

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was a whole dust stuff that happened around Starfleet technology.

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It just it felt like at first they were stranded

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on the planet, so maybe having more interactions with other

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Klingons on that smaller planet, like even in the little town,

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they could have helped with that.

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Maybe you know that I agree with you there. I

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wasn't really certain what was going on there at first start. Well,

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during the entire watch of the episode where they were

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where they're there on you know, where they exiled there,

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where they were they trapped there, you know, the other

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Klingons there, I was rather confused. I see where you're

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talking about there. It wasn't until I started doing back

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research into this episode that I understood. And that's it

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probably the big mistake that I find in this episode.

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You shouldn't have to do research in an episode to

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understand something.

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No, that's fair, not at all. You shouldn't. And I

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think that the detrition, I think that's why all of

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our complain of Wow, that stuff just felt awkward because

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it did. It just felt out of place. But then

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all the present day stuff I thought was fantastic. The

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whole debating stuff remy you know, basically coming to Jaden's

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you know, rescue, of getting him to understand how to meditate,

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how to put himself into a mindset, uh, to prepare

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himself to debate when he gets nervous, and those kind

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of things. I thought that was fantastic. And even then

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when he started to get nervous when he was out

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there debating, he looks at Remy, and Remy's telling him,

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you know, to start to do that with his hands

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and stuff like that to calm him down, to remind him, hey,

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don't rush yourself, put yourself into that mindset, get ready

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to debate here and Caleb, I loved out all of

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a sudden, Okay, he's not just this warrior. He's not

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just this you know jock. The dude has knowledge and

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he is smart. I like that because it shows a

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different level of that character that you really didn't see coming.

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So when he was putting out all of that stuff,

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it even surprised the doctor's like, holy crap, you know,

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this guy knows his stuff. He's not doing it just

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by verbatim. Even though he was getting, you know, taunted

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by some of the people about that he knew his stuff.

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He was studying, and it shows you that he is

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not only at the academy just because of to find

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his mother. He's actually starting to. I think he's going

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to be a captain one day, by the way it looks.

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I really do.

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Yeah. I think it's also interesting, like the whole debate

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dynamic and it's having the doctor at the head of that.

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I think it was a good choice. It was an

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interesting choice. It gave him a role that maybe isn't

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necessarily expected, but him as a professor, him as a teacher,

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as a head of the debate. I think it was

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a great choice. I don't know who else from the cast,

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like any other teacher that I would have had in

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that role, and I don't think that worked well.

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Right, No, Robert Ricardo's awesome, no matter what right he is.

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Did you get speaking of Robert McCarter, did you guys

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just I just saw this today. You know, he's got

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a pretty active social media account and on Facebook he

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published today a video of the filming of the debate scenes.

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It was his birthday during the filming of that, and

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the whole cast we're singing to him and praising him.

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It's it was. It's a fantastic video on Facebook. Check

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it out.

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I mean, his his account's great. It's love, it's it's

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it's funny, it's great to follow.

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That's awesome. I did. I did chuckle at the speech

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of debate is not for the chicken ship? I did?

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I did. I did chuckle at that that was great.

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Yeah.

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God again, you don't normally hear in Star Trek. I'm

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loving it, no.

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Toutually from the you know, that's really interesting that that,

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you know, we we agree and we disagree about this ep.

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I think it's the first time that's ever really happened.

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You know, there was one episode where we did one

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person agreed and two of us strongly just but this

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is the first time that I think we're all very

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conflicted with an episode of Star Trek since we started

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this podcast. I find it rather interesting.

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One thing, and Wayne, I know you agree with me that, Scott,

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you will too. One thing that I cheered about with

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Jerry Goldsmith klingon.

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Theme, Oh gosh, yes, yes, maybe that was beautiful to hear.

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Yes, I would say that too, thank you, thank you so.

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But yeah, no, I mean yeah, I mean we may

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look back when the season's done a little bit differently

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about this episode, maybe even one or two seasons down

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the road. We may look back at this episode differently

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when the clean and start fearing, you know, getting out

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there and making things happening again. But right now, not

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for me. I'm not saying it's horrible or terrible episode,

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but it's my least favorite of the season right now,

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for sure. I know we still got some coming, but

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we'll go from there.

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One thing I think this episode does prove is that

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they are going to do like they do a strange

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New Worlds and do each character centric episodes, because this

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is definitely Jaden's episode, Agreed.

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And I'm glad they're doing that. That's a great way

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to get to know these characters. All right, Well, let's

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move on, guys, Let's get through some of our favorite parts.

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Which character shine the most? Wayne, I'll let you go first.

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Well, I mean obviously it's it's Jaden, And I do

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have to say, well, I wasn't certain about his character

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through the first three episodes. He put my doubts to

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rest in this one. The actor did such a phenomenal

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job with everything that he was given here. They're they're

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all great, but he he got his chance to shine

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here and he's become a character that's and an actor

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that I'm curious about and I'm gonna watch for in

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the future episodes. But I all want to point out

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two that I also think Genesis really shines here as well.

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You know, the episode gives gives her a lot more

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space to move beyond that. Just that that Cadet that

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with something to prove. Let's her, you know, deal with

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the authority, the ethics, and a little bit of self doubt.

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You know.

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Watching her step into that debate rather than just avoid

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it feels like she's she's taking a really big step

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in her character growth, just like Kayden or excuse me, Jaden.

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I have trouble remembering his character for some reason. I

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remember his character's.

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Name, Scott. What about you?

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Yeah, I'll have to agree that. You know, this is

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Jaden's turn on the spotlight. I think he did a

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good job of overcoming what he needed to and kind

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of like facing his own kind of inner battle to

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arrive where they had to be. I think it'll be

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interesting to see where his character goes. I think there's

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more of a chance for him to explore a little

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bit more about, you know, how his clinging culture changed

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based on where it is and how it's forced to act.

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I hope that it. You know, obviously he's got a

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lot of room to kind of grow out of his shell,

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because now he's very reserved and very much like who

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am I. I don't think it was clearly resolved by

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the end of the episode, but it will be interesting

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to see kind of where he goes. Dave, what about you?

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Yeah, I mean it's gonna be across the board on

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this when you know, Jaden isn't just restling with expectations

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of being a warrior. He's carrying the deeper wound of

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believing he has dishonored his father. You know, the loss

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of his brother weighs heavily on him. In the moment

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he admits he never realized he had room in his

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heart for Caleb as well as was especially moving. You know,

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his decision to finally let your brother Gough becomes a

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powerful turning point, revealing the kind of warrior he truly is.

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Jaden shows remarkable depth, sensitivity, and growth layers. We rarely

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rarely get to see any cleon character, so I think

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that was fantastic. Another thing that I found interesting is

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I don't know if you guys know this or not,

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but the actor who plays Jayden, he actually went to

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a speech place to learn how to speak in that

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deep voice that Jaden has. It took him a little

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time to learn how to do that, and apparently Michael

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has been working side by side with him too about

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being a kling on in those kinds of things. So

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you know, we got some next generation connection, which we

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know Franks has directed an episode two coming up too,

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so definitely some next generation stuff here.

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Because there was a picture posted with the two of

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them together recently I saw. So I'm glad to hear

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that there's that connection that they're really looking into doing

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their research.

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Yeah. Absolutely, I wonder part of.

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I wonder if part of Michael's advice was don't let

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00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:26.559
them mess with your teeth.

467
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:33.480
Just don't know, all right. So, if you could be

468
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.319
any character in this episode, who would it be? And why? Scott?

469
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:37.240
I'll let you go first.

470
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:42.440
Uh, probably the doctor because I'm sure that you know,

471
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:44.519
he did a great job kind of moderating the debates

472
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:48.240
which we saw kind of samplings of. It would have

473
00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.599
been interesting to see, you know, the the different arguments

474
00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:54.119
that he would have been hearing, especially if there would

475
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:56.759
have been moments where he was torn about which way

476
00:25:56.839 --> 00:25:59.920
to go. It feels like that would probably get you know,

477
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:02.799
they's winning an argument, but also kind of top March

478
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:06.599
for having kind of an even pairing where it makes

479
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:11.279
it difficult to resolve who would win. I think if

480
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:16.720
I would change something about the Doctor's approach, I would

481
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:20.039
probably put in either replace the quote that he pulled

482
00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:25.279
out or put in an additional quote, because when he

483
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:31.000
what he quotes about Admiral Satigue, how you saying that

484
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:36.039
the quote that he used seemed to be a different

485
00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:39.119
scenario than they were going for in this episode versus

486
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:42.880
maybe something from ad Astra pre Aspera could have been

487
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:46.359
more appropriate in terms of like, you know, Federation can't

488
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:49.599
be about changing cultures. It has to be about accepting them,

489
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:54.559
otherwise it changes the entire makeup. That's one thing. Like

490
00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:57.519
I was glad that they quoted back, but I was like,

491
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.839
maybe just choose another another quote. But anyway, I'd say

492
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:04.160
the doctor, Wayne, what about you?

493
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.240
Well, it was really hard for me to choose because

494
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:08.559
I hate debating.

495
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:09.519
I just hated.

496
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.640
I hated in high school, I hated in college, and

497
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.720
I still hate it. So, like you, I'm chose the

498
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.680
doctor only because he's the one giving the lessons. Then

499
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.759
he just gets to sit back and listen to the

500
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.160
students and let them do the debating. Plus yeah, he's

501
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:27.000
you know, he's teaching his students a very valuable lesson

502
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.440
that we've seen used by every great officer in Starfleet

503
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.480
from the past. You know that it's more important to

504
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:35.799
balance your duty with your ethics than it is to

505
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:38.640
just win an argument. So that's I chose him because

506
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.599
he didn't have to debate as simple as that.

507
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.440
So for me, I went the opposite way on you, Wayne,

508
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.480
because yeah, I don't like public speaking. I don't like

509
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:54.200
debating either, and I remember the first time I ever

510
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.359
had to do it in college in front of a

511
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.200
bunch of a big class, that fear. So I was

512
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.839
able to, you know, understand what Jaden was going through.

513
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:05.799
I mean, not to the point where you lock up

514
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:08.799
completely like he did, but you know, I felt like,

515
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:10.920
you know, I understood what he was going through. So

516
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.359
I wouldn't mind being in issues at the time because

517
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:16.640
the biggest part was just getting past that fear of debating,

518
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.960
the fear of public speaking. But it was just a

519
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.200
matter of fact of what he was able to accomplish

520
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.440
by the time he got the end of that episode,

521
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.200
the fact he became a hero for his entire race

522
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.039
and not really realized that moment when he stepped onto

523
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.799
the bridge. You could just fee a sense and just

524
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:39.079
see it in his eyes. On just the amazement of

525
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:43.160
being able to be at that moment on the bridge,

526
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:48.200
but then getting to see obdell Obel I think is

527
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:51.599
his name Walchuk, you know basically you know, look at

528
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.160
him in that way that somebody would look at like,

529
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.599
oh my god, you know you are you are a hero.

530
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.839
Look what you have done for your entire race who

531
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.640
was almost on the verge of being eliminated, you know,

532
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:05.440
to be in his shoes at that moment, that that

533
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.200
feeling he must have felt, the pride that he got

534
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:13.079
there just had to be overwhelming. So I'll get past

535
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:17.640
the public speaking part just to have that feeling. That

536
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.039
is a great scene.

537
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:20.960
Yeah, that is a great scene of him when he

538
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:22.759
steps on that bridge, because I mean you really think

539
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.960
about it's the cadets is Starkley Academy. Their big dream

540
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:27.720
is to be on that bridge and you see it

541
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:29.519
in his face that could be probably the first time

542
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:31.400
he's ever stepped on it, and it's that was an

543
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:32.279
amazing scene.

544
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.640
Absolutely Yeah. And then to think to where he's come from.

545
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.759
You know, he finally his brother wanted him to join

546
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.000
the academy. He finally got to join the academy. You know,

547
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.319
probably putting that uniform on for the first time, but

548
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:45.440
then getting to step on that bridge for the first time.

549
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.079
My god, that had to be very overwhelming in itself.

550
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.119
Yeah yeah, yeah, so good deal. Good picks, guys, good picks. Well,

551
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:54.880
let's move on to I know Wayne's favorite part, and

552
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.680
of course that is an Easter eggs section. Wayne go

553
00:29:57.799 --> 00:29:58.640
to town, my friend.

554
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.119
They were quite few of them in this episode, some

555
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:03.880
really good ones, but you couldn't look for them. You

556
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.079
had to listen for most of them. But let me

557
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.400
start off with the what I kind of liked. When

558
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:12.680
they showed the a CBS Studio production title card, it

559
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:16.599
was very briefly displayed in Klingon before it reverted back

560
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:20.440
into its English. Now, those of us from back in

561
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.480
the nineteen eighties will remember that after the release of

562
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:27.599
Star Trek three, the Search for Spock Pocketbooks released a

563
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:31.480
Klingon Dictionary, which was written by a guy named Mark Achrand,

564
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.240
who was the creator the Klingon language used in that

565
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:37.359
film and then the films that were after it. But

566
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:39.839
you know, most of the Nic generation in its sequels,

567
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:43.559
they really didn't use this book as reference. Kind of

568
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.279
the writers kind of just created their own words. They

569
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.240
kind of used the sounds, but not the words. It

570
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:51.000
seems to be that the Star Trek is starting to

571
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.319
go back to that book because they were very strict

572
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:55.559
in using it in this one. You could definitely tell,

573
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:57.680
you could hear if you listen to what they're saying.

574
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.759
Look in the dictionary you can translate it. I'm kind

575
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:02.279
of glad that they're going back to that because it

576
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.359
was a really well written language.

577
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:07.160
I remember that, I remember, I remember that book.

578
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:13.799
Yeah, it's it's a very dry book. Guard to read. Now, Scott,

579
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.039
you brought this up a little bit, but the debate

580
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:19.759
competition was named after Aaron set te who was one

581
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:22.720
of the most famous judges in the Federation and was

582
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.279
the father of Admiral Nora set Tee, which is the

583
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.720
character that was played by Gene Simmons in the Next

584
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:32.559
Generation episode The Drumhead. In that episode, Captain Picard states

585
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:36.039
that his rulings were required reading at the Academy, and

586
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.599
apparently eight hundred years later they still are. The doctor

587
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:43.279
the quote that the Doctor says is the exact same

588
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:45.480
quote that John Luke Picard recite. So what was it

589
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:49.200
with the first link? The chain is forged? The first

590
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.680
speech censored, the first thought forbidden, first freedom, denied, change

591
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:58.119
us all inevitably. You know, that's exactly word per word

592
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:01.720
right there. Also on one of the screens there is

593
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.519
a Federation news report that states that the Devar Council

594
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:09.920
meets with the Hydrogen delegation ahead of the Delta Quadrant summit.

595
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.200
The Hydrogen were a race of hunters that caused a

596
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.960
lot of problems for Captain Jane Way and her crew

597
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.160
in Star Trek Voyager's final seasons. So apparently the Delta

598
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.200
Quadrant is now connected to the rest of it. They've

599
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:27.119
actually traveled back and forth to it. Now. The Klingon

600
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:29.440
colony that we were talking about earlier that Jayden and

601
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:33.000
his family go to that was named Kreos Prime, and

602
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:35.839
that's been a Klingon world for a very very long time.

603
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.720
It was the colony that the Klingons and the Romulans

604
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.680
were arguing about in the Next Generation episode The Mind's Eye.

605
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.319
That was where it was discovered by LaForge and insign

606
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.640
Row that the Romulans were a secretly giving Federation weapons

607
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:53.720
to the rebels. There cave excuse me, Kaylea that name.

608
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:59.960
Caleb mentions the Sigma Draconis Star System. Now that's where

609
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.240
Captain Kirk and the Enterprise had to go and rescue

610
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:05.359
Spock when he had his brain stolen in the original

611
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:11.319
series episode Spock's Brain. We learned a very valuable piece

612
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:16.400
of political Klingon Federation history here that the Organian peace

613
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:20.559
Treaty established in the original series episode Aaron a Mercy

614
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.920
was superseded by the Kiddimer Accords that they were shown

615
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.559
in the Star Trek sixty on Discovered Country. There's never

616
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:28.960
been a direct link. This has never been mentioned between

617
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:33.079
those two, and this is the first time. Also saw

618
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:34.680
one of the ships that was sent to help the

619
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:38.720
USS Athena was named the US s Riker. And then

620
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.559
two things about the Klingons. First, we got to see

621
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:44.039
the Klingon death ritual once again. That was first seen

622
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.400
in the Next Generation episode Heart of Glory and many

623
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.480
times after that, and I'm going to bring it up

624
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:49.559
again because I loved it.

625
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:50.279
Great.

626
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.559
Big thank you to Jeff Russo for bringing back Jerry

627
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:53.799
Goldsmith's cling On fame.

628
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:58.039
You yeah, yeah, that made the whole episode for me

629
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:04.079
right there. How about thought describing the free Jim Hadar

630
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.719
basically the post series fate of that race after Deep

631
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:09.480
Space nine.

632
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.320
Yeah, that was interesting. I mean, we just wonder what

633
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:17.119
happened to him since the founders are the dominion was dissolved.

634
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:19.840
Yeah. Interesting. And I know the other ships too that

635
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.039
were there was the Capricorn, Crimson, Lexington, and of course

636
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:26.239
you mentioned the Riker I thought that was interesting. They

637
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.000
had to use Riker because, I mean, Jonathan Franks has

638
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:29.920
directed an episode of this series, so come on, you

639
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.360
better put Riker in there for Yeah. Yeah, throw them

640
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:36.880
a bone for growing out loud. All right, Well, thanks

641
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.480
Wayne for the education of the easter eggs. That majority

642
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:42.639
of those I've probably missed, but well done. Okay, so

643
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.559
what are we seeing next week? I believe the episode

644
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.239
is called series Acclamation mill no idea what this is about.

645
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.519
They really trailer a name this time, we do, but

646
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:54.039
they really know.

647
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.119
But they did give us they they did give us

648
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.280
a little bit of a teaser about it, which is

649
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:03.280
the first time they've ever actually published this. It says

650
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:06.639
Sam sets out to solve an ancient starfleet mystery and

651
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.360
embarks on a journey of self discovery. I know they

652
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.159
don't tell you very much, but it's definitely going to

653
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:13.320
be a Sam centric episode.

654
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.599
Sam, you it'd be Sam in Genesism, probably because those

655
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:18.679
two are like thick as the fleas. Then again, it

656
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:21.360
might be Sam and the doctor because she loves the doctor.

657
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.679
Could be yeah, well, good deal. Well, thanks listeners for

658
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:29.599
listening to us talk about Starfleet Academy. What do you

659
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:33.679
think about this episode? Do you agree with us? We're

660
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:35.960
kind of torn mixed up on this episode, but hey,

661
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.800
it happens. We can't all agree all the time. It

662
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.119
would be a boring world, right, guys, Yeah, for sure?

663
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.440
Absolutely yep. Well, guys, I thank you both for joining

664
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.960
me as always here at the Academy. It's been fun

665
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:49.920
talking about this series and I can't wait to see

666
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:50.480
where it's going.

667
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:51.519
Yep.

668
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.679
Likewise, so, you can check us out at www dot

669
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680
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681
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:33.480
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