Phasers Set To Stun: Top 10 Episodes from Star Trek: The Next Generation Season 3
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The curated list discussed in today's episode contains the following Star Trek: The Next Generation season three episodes:
Evolution
The Survivors
The Enemy
The Defector
Yesterday's Enterprise
The Offspring
Sins of the Father
The Most Toys
Sarek
Best of Both Worlds: Part 1
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Space the Final Frontier. Join us
for a bold conversation our prime directive to
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recap our favorite Star Trek shows,
both new and old, to engage in
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debate about all things Trek. Prepare
to energize with Phasers Set to Stun.
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Hello listeners, and welcome back to
Phasers Set to Stun, where we continue
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to show our love for Everything's Star
Trek in this continuing series from a film
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by podcast focusing on everything in the
ever expanding universe of Star Trek, covering
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television, movies, animation, directors, merchandise, and much more. Joining
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me on the bat bridge of the
Enterprise because they're currently vacuuming the carpet on
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the main bridge, is our Core
Trek crew. I'm your host, Wayne
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White on David Burns, and I'm
Skoy Hoffman, and I want to start
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off this podcast with a huge congratulations
for the winners of this year's as Saturn
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Awards. Star Trek won some big
ones this year. They took home the
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Best Science Fiction Series for Star Trek
Card Season three, as well as some
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well deserved acting awards. Best Actor
went to Patrick Stewart, Best Supporting Actor
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to Jonathan Frakes. Best Supporting Actress
to Jerry Ryan All for their magnificent work
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on a card season three. Plus
we can't forget Paul Wesley took home Best
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Guest Star for his portrayal of James
T. Kirk in The Strange New World.
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So congratulations to all of them.
Yeah, well earned, absolutely all
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right, Going back to our program, in this episode, we continue our
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discussion on what we like to call
Starter Treks, a chosen list for first
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time viewers. This spoiler free list
focuses on the top ten episodes from each
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season for people diving into the Next
Generation for the first time, showing them
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a great place to start and want
to steer clear of. With Starter Treks,
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we simplify the menu with choices that
give our new listeners a taste for
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each season. After listening to this
episode, you can find the course we
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plotted for you at the convenient list
located in the description below. But before
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we begin, let's listen to what
a Fellow, a film by contributor Amber
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Lewis, has to say about some
of the episodes we chose for season two.
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Hey, guys, I adored Next
Generation and never missed it back in
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the day. I am loving this
series. You're doing because it makes it
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easier to do a rewatch since you
don't have to slog through all twenty two
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plus episodes a season. You made
great points for including the episodes on the
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list, and there's a lot to
love in season two, including Diynan,
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the Holidac, and the introduction of
the Borg. But on the flip side,
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my absolute hatred of both Doctor Pulaski
and the episode Up the Long Ladder
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cannot be overstated. I would personally
add the episode Manhunt to the list of
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episodes to watch because I absolutely love
Troy's mom. She is hysterical and I
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love how uncomfortable she makes Troy,
who is usually so composed. So keep
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up the great work and I can't
wait for season three and one of the
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best season finales ever. Thanks for
that, Amber, and to all our
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listeners. If you'd like to comment
or add what you think are the top
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ten, please do so because we'd
love to hear from you. David,
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what are we discussing today, Well, we are the best discussing season three
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of Star Trek the Next Generation,
which is going to get the ball rolling.
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The episodes and the seasons are getting
better. Oh yes, they are
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definitely definitely. There's been a lot
of changes between season two and three,
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the big one being Gene Roddenberry stepped
back and Rick Berman took over a show
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runner and the executive producer, and
that he brought about a lot of much
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needed and much wanted changes to the
show. First and the big one he
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rehired Gates McFadden back to play doctor
Beverly Crusher. Thank god. Yeah,
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what a what a great change.
You know, when you look back,
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it's it's hard to believe that she
wasn't there for a season, but she
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was missing. Yeah, the big
new opening title frequents too, we got
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that's right, brand new title sequence, brand new costumes. They hired a
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new costume designer, Robert Blackman.
He redesigned all of them for the main
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cast and the guest stars. And
and another big thing is they got rid
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of something that I really wasn't aware
of. But for the first two years,
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Ruddenberry had a rule that forbid them
from acknowledging anything about the original Star
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Trek series. This rule was gone, as we'll see later on in season.
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Yeah, thank goodness, man,
Yeah, that would make no sense
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to me. Like this anyway,
this is Star Trek wait a minute.
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What right, Yeah, all,
I can understand them wanting to establish themselves,
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but it's the third year. Now
it's time to get rid of that
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and starts showing the continuity of the
series. Absolutely. Another thing is this
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season saw Michael Pillar joined the writing
staff for the show. He was responsible
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for really really honing the style and
type of scripts that were brought in.
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That's this is a big change that
we saw as viewers back then. He
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demanded the stories revolved around the characters
rather than just the events of the enterprise.
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It brought in a lot of other
great writers like Ronald Moore. And
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then another thing that I remember is
he instituted that open submission policy where anyone
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out there, even if you didn't
have an agent, could submit a script
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directly to them. You didn't have
to have experience. They would take a
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look at everything and they got a
lot of good writers and a lot of
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good scripts through that. But to
go back to what you said about the
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uniforms, just the uniforms in themselves, what what a leap in production value
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that provides that that two piece they
have now, you know, it just
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looks so much better on screen than
that one piece. Yeah, it looks
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really really company too. Oh yeah, I mean the actors were real happy
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about that. Anybody noticed that the
at the beginning of this season when they
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did bring the new uniforms, those
aren't the actual uniforms that we're familiar with.
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Somewhere they liked the last like four
or five episodes in they changed them
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again. They they still kind of
looked the same. But I always wondered,
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I never found that the answer is
to why what happened there? What
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was the difference between us? This
must have been something for some reason for
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them to change those I'm not sure, but yeah, you're right. Maybe
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merchandising, so they could more uniform
variations, or or the the actor for
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complaining about, you know, being
comfortable or not. Who knows, could
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be Yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah, all right, we're going
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to dive right into the episodes we
chosen. We're going to be talking about
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them in the order in which they
were originally broadcast back in nineteen eighty nine
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nineteen ninety. So to begin,
let's move right to our first pick.
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And I have the honor of starting
us off with the season premiere, which
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is Evolution, written by Michael Pillar
and Michael Wagner and directed by Winrich Colby.
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The Enterprise has been sent to the
Cavist Alpha binary star system to witness
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a rare stellar explosion and assist in
the experiments of doctor Paul Stubbs. However,
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just before the explosion starts, the
Enterprise begins to malfunction in odd ways
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that put both the experiments and the
entire crew in great jeopardy. Of course,
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we just got done mentioning lots of
changes here, which is why this
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episode really needs to start in the
viewing and you're viewing for the season,
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because there's so much going to got
the reintroduction of doctor Crusher, you got
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the uniform, You've got Wharf's been
promoted to full lieutenant before has been promoted
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to lieutenant commander. Yep, you
know, the new opening title, Segua
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you mentioned, David, We've got
changed the slight alteration to the theme song.
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Just there's there's just so many changes
it would be rather jarring to just
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kind of skip this and go into
to the rest of the season. So
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that's what makes this episode very important, and in my opinion, it's a
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good episode. Yeah, it's this
is vital. You know, some people
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may disagree with us on some of
our picks, but this one is for
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a person who's just joining Star Trek. If we skipped over this, what's
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going on, Doctor Crusher is back
and you know, yeah, everything's changing.
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So yeah, I completely agree with
you on that way. One of
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the things this goes back to what
you were talking about earlier on how Roddenberry
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didn't allow anything talking about you know, the original Star Trek and stuff like
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that. Data in this episode mentions
you know about a system wide technological failure
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hadn't happened seventy nine years yep,
and he's talking about Star Trek five,
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yeah, right, which it just
came out just before this season's aired,
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so it was fresh in everybody's mind. Yep. This one wasn't one of
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my picks for I understand the importance, but the character of Paul Stubbs,
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specifically doctor Stubbs, is so abrasive
and so condescending, especially to Wesley.
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There's just a little bit of Pulaski
left, I think in Stubs and just
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just know that, you know,
his character doesn't always rub everybody the right
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way. But yeah, there are
so many milestones and kind of getting into
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season three and establishing a lot of
important characters in that I think is important.
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Yeah. Absolutely. And here's another
thing that I found interesting. If
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you guys noticed or not, did
you know Scott Grimes is in this Yeah?
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Uncredited. Yeah, remember that he
plays one of Wesley's friends at the
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very end. And if you're not
paying attention to it, you're going to
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miss them. So I find that
very interesting. You know, a good
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old days of critters a Scott when
we talk, but the Nike that's right.
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Well, he's come a long way
the power of the Night. And
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I also want to put a mention
now to the episode's main guest star,
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Ken Jenkins, who played doctor Stubbs. He was in so much stuff back
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in the eighties and the nineties,
so many shows, X Files, Babylon
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Five, he was one of the
cast members of Scrubs. But you know
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we're being we're Ohio boys. He
was born right here in Dayton, Ohio.
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That's right, so you know,
a nice little shout out to us
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local. But I think he did
a good job. You're right. His
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character was abrasive, but I liked
him. I liked his the way he
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relaxed by by going over baseball games
in his mind. I thought that was
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a really unique idea. Yeah.
I mean, let's let's be honest.
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I mean, he's obsessed with his
project. He's been working on for a
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very long time, so it makes
sense that he's like that. Even though
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I didn't like it, because you're
right, Scott, it takes us back
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to the Pulaski days and it really
just grates on you. But if you
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look at it through his eyes,
I guess it makes sense for the character
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to be like that. It does, and I think, you know,
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Ken Jakes does a great job of
portraying that character in that way, and
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I do think it does. You
know. The title of the episode evolution
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being a step toward like, okay, can we respect Wesley now and right?
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Make him part of the crew?
Come on, I have this,
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you know, little kid kind of
portrayal of him. And the title of
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the episode is rather fitting because this
was the evolution of the show. The
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show hasvalved past its first two seasons
and now we're moving into the more familiar
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Star Trek that lasted till today.
Yeah, and this season shows it.
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I mean, you know, for
you listeners, this was tough for us
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to pick our top ten. Some
of them. Obviously, we're going to
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keep with me in the top ten, but there are some other ones that
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I know were good that we getn't
at. It was tough, it really
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was, because the seasons are just
getting better. All right, Let's go
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on with our second pick, and
this is brought to you by David Yes.
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So this is the episode called The
Survivors. The Enterprise travels to Rana
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four, where only two people have
survived of what was once a population of
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eleven thousand. It seems that something
tragic has occurred on this planet, and
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it is up to the crew of
the Enterprise to discover what it is and
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what has happened. The away team
beams down to discover the two survivors to
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our husband and wife, Kevin and
Rashawn Uxbridge. Counselor Troy begins suffering from
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a melody that continues to play within
her mind, and the card suspects that
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two survivors are holding a secret that
must be uncovered. Gentlemen, I love
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this episode. And if you know
the history of one of the actors in
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this episode of what had occurred to
him, and I'm talking about John Anderson,
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I don't want to give away too
much, but you know what happened
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to him. He claims this was
one of the toughest episode's performances he's ever
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had to do in his entire life. And when you understand the episode and
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what happened to him, you will
understand what he was going through when in
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his performance in this and that just
adds to this so much. And Haney,
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who plays for Sean, I thought
she did a wonderful job. And
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watching this again, I realized,
oh my god, she played Bonnie and
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the Golden Girls. I did not
realize that until I watched this again,
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and then itned not really Holy crap. Marina Surtis's incredible performance in this episode.
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You know, you believe she was
suffering listening to that music over and
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over and over in her head.
And I just thought she did an incredible
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job in this. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah. There's a lot of emotional
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weight to this episode, which is
something we're gonna see a lot more in
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uh season three and beyond. Yeah, right, I think this definitely shows
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kind of that tonal shift and a
little bit more of a you know,
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there are some some thought provoking aspects
to this, kind of in a twilight
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Zone kind of nature that also comes
through a lot more in this series,
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which is great for making things.
You know, occasionally there's just a standalone,
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episodic kind of entry, and I
think this is one of the one
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of the best ones. Yeah,
I agree, it's kind of it.
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It looks like a bottle show,
but it really isn't. So it's a
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freak confined, small guess cast.
But one thing is this episode made the
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cast really happy because they got to
go on location and film. And I
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never realized it, but this was
really the first major location shooting that they
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did since the first season. There
was only one brief location shooting during the
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second year and it only had I
think Prince Spiner and Patrick Stewart were the
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only ones on there. Yeah,
it was nice for them to go out
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and finally see the sun. I'm
sure. I think one of the call
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outs in this episode two is wharf
drinking tea. Yes, it's great.
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Yeah, all right, let's move
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goes to you, Scott Yep.
So this one is called the Enemy and
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and so in this one in a
way mission leaves Jordie's stranded and blinded on
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a desolate planet ravaged by storms,
but he soon's discovered that he's not alone.
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A desperate injured Romulin is also maruned
with him. Their only hope for
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survival is to work together. I
don't think it's spoiling too much if I
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say that there were a lot of
beats of this episode that reminded me of
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Enemy Mine. No, not at
all. Absolutely. So we've got another
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entry with the Romulins becoming more and
more important, learning more and more about
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them. We get the introduction of
I think one of the great Romulin characters,
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Commander Tomloch, and more exploration of
Jordie's capabilities, his rolled beyond engineering.
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He's stuck on a rock where he
can't communicate with anybody and there's very
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limited technology, and the way that
he navigates through that, I think is
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brilliant. Yeah, it's it's the
whole depending on somebody else that you don't
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trust, and you know, vice
versa. I love those kind of episodes,
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and you know, we get to
see Jordi for the really for the
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first time like that, you know, struggling with his blindness because he can't
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use that. I thought that was
really really well done, and I want
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to call out Commander Tomilok. Wayne, you know where I'm going to go
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with this. I was hoping you
would place Jakar in Babylon five. He's
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fantastic who is incredible as Jakar and
does a great job here too. And
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the next generation is Tomalak you know
so. And he also made an appearance
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I believe in Enterprise as well.
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in the series. It's one of
the few return guest characters from the show.
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Yeah, and David and I we
got to actually meet Andreas back in
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two thousand down at Atlanta, and
he's just as flamboyant and as wonderful in
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person as he is on the show. Yeah. He just brings such a
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performance. I can see why he
got casted in all the roles he gets
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cast in it, because he just
brings that that presence that he's a leader.
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yeah, Well it's one of those
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you know, the face offs through
a view screen on the bridge with the
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card comes up a few times.
That's just done brilliantly. Yeah. And
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I mean I can't see him without
thinking of The Fugitive with Harrison Ford.
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Oh yeah, absolutely, in The
Fugitive. Yes, that's such a great
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job. Yes he does. This
was the first episode that we start on
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a planet. It's usually with the
ship in space and open up. This
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is the first time they've done it
right, Yeah, which makes sense,
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I guess right. Not the sunny
locale we had in the last one,
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No, not at all. Another
thing I really liked about this episode too,
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is we're really getting to see more
of Riker and a Card like continuing
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to balance each other. You know, yes, Riker has got that that
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that gung ho wanting to go back
down to the planet. You know,
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they even the cars like whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Hold on a second here, you
know, we got to figure this stuff
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out. And the same thing with
when the Romulans make for our appearance.
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You know, Rker wanted to go
right at him and the cars like,
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we can't do that. You know, you're still you're still seeing that that
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that number one attitude going on with
Riker and not seeing the captain that's inside
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of him, which Picard still has. But you see this too, balance
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each other, and I love that
between those two. Oh. This this
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is a great episode and this shows
it's a good example of Michael Pillar's idea
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to make the stories more character focused, because this really is character focused,
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especially with la Forge, it gives
him so much to do. The original
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idea for this script actually had LaForge
and Troy on the planets. I don't
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think that would have worked as well, and I see why they rewrote it.
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But unfortunately that really made marinossert Is
mad that she was almost completely she
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was completely written out of the script. She only has one line left.
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She got very, very upset and
actually contemplated leaving the show time. Well,
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I'm glad she didn't, but it
makes sense to the episode. It
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really does. It does. The
story would not have been the same if
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if she was down there with him. This this worked better in my opinion.
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I agree, absolutely agree. They
made a good choice there. Yeah.
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Now let's not forget, and we
can't give away too much of what's
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going on the episode because we're you
know, we're staying away from spoilers for
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our new listeners. But uh WARF's
objection and his dilemma in this episode,
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wow, wow, and how they
touched on how they dealt with it,
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It just was incredible. Man,
The scene between him and the card and
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you know what I'm talking about just
my goodness, just just this on the
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edge of your seat kind of stuff
man, of what was going to go
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happen and how it did turn out. Just fantastic writing right there. Yes,
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and an important note in War's progression
as a character. Yes, definitely,
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yeah. Yeah. And my favorite
line in the in the in the
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episode I never lie when I got
sand in my shoes, commodore. All
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right, Well there was our first
three. But before we continue on,
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let's take a short break and when
we come back we'll dive into the next
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three episodes of Starter Treks. Welcome
back everyone. Let's continue on with our
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fourth episode on the list, and
that is The Defector. Written by Ronald
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D. Moore and directed by Robert
Shearer. The Enterprise comes across to Romulin
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scout vessel under attack by a warbird
and are able to rescue its crew a
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single Romulin named Stal who claims to
have a secret information about a Romulin base
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on the planet Nirvana three and seeks
to defect to the Federation, but the
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crew are skeptical of his claims and
feel that he may be leading them into
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an unescapable trap. This episode was
one of the episodes that was written by
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Ronald Moore had brought him into the
show and earned him a position on the
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writing staff, and I definitely this
is a fantastic episode. And he would
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go on to write so many great
episodes of this series and become executive producer
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of Deep Space nine and then well
he also wrote Star Trek First Contact as
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well, which yeah, you know, probably one of the best next generation
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films they made, without a doubt, right, And then of course later
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on he would create another fantastic show, the new version of Battlestar Galactica for
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the Sci Fi Channel, which that
shows phenomenal. If you haven't seen him,
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go watch it. It is James
Sloan, is it tall? I
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thought he did an incredible job in
this episode, so good, oh man,
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so many good scenes with him and
do you believe him? Do you
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not believing? Do you trust him? I don't know. And they played
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that off so well, and he
plays it off so well in his performance
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and just the things that unfold,
man is wow. This definitely to me
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felt like a Tom Clancy fans would
they love this episode, just the the
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nuances and the intrigue and the political
balance. There's not a lot of action
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per se in this one. But
the tension is so high, so high,
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and he does an amazing job of
giving the the Rymelans more depth and
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breadth. Yeah, but you see, from a Rymlin's perspective, this is
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what's important to me. These are
my feelings about my my planet, my
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species, and what I'm willing to
risk for that and what that means is
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enormous. Yeah, James does an
amazing job in this episode. I mean,
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put yourself in those shoes, Scott, specially you you've got kids,
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you've got a wife. Think about
that. Put yourself in the shoes of
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that guy and what he had to
let go of to be in the position
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that he's in right then Korea?
Yeah, absolutely, yeah. But just
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and I if I'm not correct,
me if I wrong? But doesn't he
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play Odo's father in Deep Space nine? Yes? A, yeah, I
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think you're right. I think yeah, yeah. Yeah. This episode and
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the the episode before really changed the
way we looked at Romulans. I mean,
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you know, before they were always
just played out as villains, even
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through the Capital series, and and
now we're seeing, you know, other
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sides of them. They're not just
villains, They're a whole race, you
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know, that there's good and the
bad side, and they fortunately the show
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continued doing that. I like the
idea, just like the Klingons, and
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they did that a lot with the
Klingons to this series. But you know,
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there's more to these races than just
you know, good guys bad guys.
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Yep. Yeah, and it absolutely
has it has beats that come back
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in season one up the card.
Oh yes, it's very important to watch
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that for if for that, if
no other reason. And this was the
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first episode of the nineties. Yeah, yeah, that's right. This is
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also the first episode that was a
result of the problems that they had with
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the elementary Dear data. That holiday
sequence at the beginning that Henry the Fifth
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was actually supposed to be a Sharlock
Holmes sequence, but no, they couldn't
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do that. No, no,
no, no, we're not going down
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that again. Right. Moving on, let's hear our fifth pick for season
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three, David. Well, gentlemen, we know what a phenomenal episode this
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one is, and we knew this
was going to be our top ten without
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any doubt, and that is the
episode Yesterday's enterprise definitely a temporal rift opens
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bringing a starship through which turns out
to be the Enterprise see twenty two Years
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from the Past under the leadership of
Captain Rachel Garrett. However, upon arrival
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of this ship, it instantly changes
history and alters the crew and timeline we
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know, creating a federation who is
now battle weary as they have been at
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war with the Klingons for many years. Gynan quickly recognizes that something is wrong
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and does her best to convince the
Card that this ship from that past must
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be sent back through to fix the
timeline. However, doing so would send
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the crew of the Enterprise see to
their certain depths. Rated by many as
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one of the best episodes of All
Star Trek. And I know there's some
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things we can't talk about, guys, because I don't want to ruin this
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for anyone who watches this episode,
and you know what I'm talking about,
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so let's not talk about that portion. But what I love about this episode
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is when it opens and the events
of the present day change, and how
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they do the camera effect and it
changes into you know, with the card
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and the bridge still, but it's
like, you know, everything changes on
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us. I love how they change
the lighting. Do you guys notice that
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the whole episode a lot changed.
Yeah, yeah, but the lighting on
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how it was darker and more you
know, constrained on the actors and stuff
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like that. It felt more cinematic
for one thing, but like even like
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when certain dialogue seats were going on, and I don't remember what a scene
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it is. I just remember a
card like with a little bit shadowed,
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and then he stepped up and you
get that effect where the light which it
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comes into his face. And I
always remember the scene from Raiders that lost
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Art when Steven Spielberg did that,
when Indy jumped, you know, moved
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into the light. It felt like
that on the bridge, not on the
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bridge, round the ship with the
enterprise, with all those changes, I
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thought that was incredible. And they
knew that this was going to be a
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big episode, and because it aired
in February, which was this one of
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the sweeps months back then, so
it was a really important episode, and
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so Paramount threw a little bit more
money. And you can see it in
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there with the changes in the costumes, the sets, the lighting. It
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it looks fantastic, and it's because
you know, they they needed the ratings
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and they got him from this.
It's an incredible episode. You can't talk.
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I mean, we cannot stress how
much we loved this episode. Oh
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yeah, I mean I think even
we were talking about, like we were
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working in season one or season two, we were talking about, well,
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we know yesterday's enterprise is going to
be in the top it's a given us
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how good this is. Yeah,
it gets a lot easier as we go
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into the seasons, as much as
it gets more difficult to pick a top
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ten because there are some that just
feel like naturals, like this is an
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automatic is one of them? Absolutely, And what you mentioned about the lighting
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is so important because it it not
only signals kind of that shift from one
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event to another or one timeline to
another, like bright and cheery too,
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yeah yep, but you also see
the fatigue yep on Picard's face. Right.
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It has that slightly sinister air which
made me think of, you know,
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mirror universe kind of things. But
it's definitely not mirror universe. It's
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just a slight shift in what if
that has just done so well? So
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difficult to talk about you want to
talk about, but you know, standout
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performances, I'll just call out Tricia
O'Neill as Captain Rachel Garrett. I think
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did a cool, great, fantastic, great job she did. The use
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of costuming in this is also so
important. And then you can't talk about
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this episode without talking about Lieutenant Richard
Castillo Christopher MacDonald from Happy gil Moore DVD
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that Jeff Johnson can never find on
his resh because I lost it, but
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so many stand up performances. Uh
and Wooby Goldberg as Gun and I think
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this is such a great episode.
Especially the end scene gives me goose bumps.
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She has so much more to do
in this episode. She's actually vital
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to the to the story, which
you know, usually it's more than just
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her giving advice to the bar.
She finally has something to do in the
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episode, and that's great. It's
amazing that this episode became out to be
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so as good as it is because
this this was a mess behind the scenes
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to make. This was actually two
scripts that they merged into one, and
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it was rewritten a dozen times by
six different writers. You know, we
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all know that's usually the recipe for
disaster, but it doesn't happen here.
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You know. One one of the
scripts that they merged had them running into
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the The Guardian of Forever from the
original series and had Sarah in it,
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and he had to go back in
time and save Vulcan and become become the
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legendary Serac and and it changed all
of history. And and that's where that
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part comes from. And then the
other part. I can't really get into
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that other script because that goes into
some of the spoilers for this episode.
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You know, they merged them all
together and it worked. It worked perfectly.
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Yeah, to go back to Gaynan
what b Goldberg's performance is always stellar,
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Yes, but when we always talk
about actors and how they can perform
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with their eyes, they don't have
to say anything and they're able to pull
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off the emotions that we are able
to feel as a you know, a
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viewer. She does that so well
when she goes into ten Ford and you
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know what's seen him talking about if
we can't say it, but you just
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you just feel the emotion there of
just the glances that she gives and just
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incredible performance on her part. And
yes, I just want to call her
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out again just as you did,
Scott, because we b Goobery just did
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an incredible job in this episode.
So many people put in impossible situations,
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absolutely impossible decisions that have to be
made here, and this has a very
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important impact through the rest of the
series. It does, Yes, it
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does. And we got to call
out too that this did win an any
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Award for Outstanding Sound Editing for a
Series. I felt like they should have
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won a whole lot more awards because
it's just done so well and the excitement
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when this first aired, you know, we all were looking forward to this
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episode. I remember exactly where I
was all those years ago that that day.
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It was the day of our sole
and ensemble contest for the band and
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we had to be bust up to
Lima and there was a huge lizard that
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day, and I was so upset
that we weren't going to make it back
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to watch this episode. I went, I went to our band director,
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and I complained and I raised a
fuss, and we made it back.
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We made it back just in time
for me to watch the episode. And
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I took home the Blue Ribbon that
weekend. So fantastic day. When when
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all right, we have a six
pick for you and Scott, let's hear
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what that is. This one's called
the Offspring. So the mission to seek
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out new life becomes personal for Data
as he welcomes an android daughter into the
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world. He learns about life as
a parent watching someone grow, and gets
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a new point of view on the
challenges of life as an android. But
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when Starfleet intervenes, he finds out
how much he would do for those he
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cares about. Most goosebumps you have. It's just go back to you having
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kids, Scott, How would you
again? How would you feel? Be
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Data? So hard to talk about
this episode without spoilers. Yeah, but
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there's a stand up performance by Helly
Todd as Low Data's daughter and by Nicholas
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Coster as Admiral Hafdel. Obviously they're
on they're on different sides. What should
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happen with Lall's future obviously kind of
hangs in the balance. But we haven't
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seen any other Androids since Lore,
and this brings attention to Data's place in
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the universe, feeling isolated, feeling
alone, thinking about his evolution that we
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saw in Measure of a Man right, that absolutely comes back in this episode
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with great effect. And Yeah,
the the emotional arc what you see with
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Data is absolutely incredible, and you
know, we're not going to spoil anything,
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but Brent Spiner's performance right up to
that absolute final scenes when credits start
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to roll. Oh, it gives
me chills. The emotion range that he
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portrays with an emotionless character arguably is
phenomenal. That is one of my favorites.
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00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:10.839
Again, it goes back to what
we talked about Will Big Goberd a
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little bit ago. It's it's that
being able to perform without saying a word.
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It's it's it's it's such a talent
man that some people have, and
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Brent Spiner clearly has that. It
does You're right, I mean he's playing
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someone who doesn't have emotions, but
yeah he does. He pulls it off
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so well. And we also have
to mention Jonathan Frakes directed this episode,
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yes, yes, for his first
time doing it, and now he directs
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so much Star Trek, which we
love very very much because he's fantastic at
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it, which is why he's barely
in this episode because he was busy behind
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the camera. But the one scene
that he was in was her sterical yes
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oh yeah ye. And the way
that he composes There's three characters, Jordie,
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Troy and Wesley that start the episode
and they have a very important role
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towards the end of the episode and
the way that their emotions uh, they
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kind of emote for Data, and
it's that secondary That second scene has just
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done so well, Like you see
this range of emotions from three different people
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on behalf of Data, who has
his own you know, can't necessarily express
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those emotions or doesn't necessarily have those
emotions, but wow, so impactful.
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It's it's such a great episode.
And you know this the second half of
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this season just was one great episode
after the other. It's hard to believe
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that you know this, This episode
the Offspring was not only was it a
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bottle show, this was this was
their their bottle show for the season.
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They were saving a lot of money
on this and you look and you see
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it, but it worked. But
this was one of the scripts that was
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submitted to the open the open mission
process. So this was just some some
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writer out there with no agent decided, Hey, I have an idea and
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send it in and this is what
we got. And of course he would
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go on to write more a lot
more episodes. But it's just it's so
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good. Right after yesterday's enterprise and
we boom, we got this fantastic episode
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and there's there's that one big scene
between ad will have to hold up a
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card and data when they're all in, you know, in the room talking
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together. Oh my goodness, performance
is great by everybody there. Yeah,
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all right. The next episode,
the seventh on our list, is Send
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to the Father, and this is
written by Ronald D. Moore and Drew
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Dehan and directed by Les Landau.
The Enterprise receives a Klingon first officer,
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a Commander Kern, through the Officer
Exchange program, whose command style aggravates the
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crew. With Kern is confronted by
Wharf. He has revealed that Kern is
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Yarf's younger brother and that on the
Klingon Horn world, their father has been
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00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.199
charged as a trader to the Empire
by Durros. To clear his family's name,
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Wharf travels to Kronos with Picard at
his side to challenge the charges,
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but soon's discovered there are darker conspiracies
happening behind the scenes of the Klingon Council.
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Once again, another huge memorable episode
right at one right after the other.
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This is This is a big Klingon
episode for the season, and one
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of the most important episodes not just
for the nixt generation but for just Star
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Trek War altogether. This is the
first time we see the Klingon Home World.
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It hasn't been named yet, it
won't be named for another year.
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In Star Trek six they just call
it the Klingon Home World here, but
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its real name is Kronos. By
the way, it's the name that they
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came up in Star Trek six effect. It's great. It won It won
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an Emmy as well this season for
Best Art Design. Richard James has designed
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for The Klingon a great Hall was
phenomenal. It's just it's very epic story.
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And then you know, we've got
some incredible guest appearances, incredible performances.
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I think the big one that I
want to point out is Tony Todd.
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He's a phenomenal actors actor. Uh. He plays Kerrn Wharf's brother.
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00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:24.960
He appeared in so much uh uh, so many films and television. But
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he also would go on and play
Kerrent again in Star Trek both this series
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and the Deep Space Nine. And
he also played a few other characters.
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And one of my favorite characters that
he played was an older Jake Cisco in
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the episode of The Visitor of Deep
Space nine, which is probably one of
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the strongest episodes of that series.
But he's just he's an incredible, incredible
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actor. Yeah, and Patrick Massi, who played d Roth, I thought
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he did a good too. He's
he's he's great. And we also got
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Charles Cooper in this episode too.
He plays Kim Pick. We just got
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00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:04.960
done seeing him playing uh, General
Cord in Star Trek five, and here
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00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.960
he is again, and he's wearing
the same outfit that he woren't Star Trek
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00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:13.280
five, that cloak with all the
pins, exactly the same thing. But
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00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:20.519
why not? Now this this is
a shining moment for Michael dorn in,
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a shining moment for Wharf. So
many things happen in this episode, right
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00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:28.880
Wayne, that sets up the future
of the Klingons, and we're going to
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00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:31.440
revisit, I know, uh an
episode we're gonna be talking about later on,
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you know, not in this season, later season that you know,
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it's going to come back to a
lot of this stuff. And well that
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Tony Todd is in obviously, but
man, what a performance with Michael Dorn
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here. There's just so many things
to talk about that we can't talk about,
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00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:54.480
especially on how this episode wraps up
and stuff like that. But some
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moments between him and the card that
we're just so well done, and just
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00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:05.480
seeing the struggle that Wharf was going
through here, not only finding out that
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he had a brother, but then
the tension that's on the Enterprise between Riker
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and well clearly everybody on the Enterprise
with him and what was going on at
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least in some good moments of his
funny moments, but since seriousness too.
525
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.880
Great performance is all around. Yeah, and I think it's one of Michael
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00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:29.800
Doran's favorite it is I could see
why. Absolutely I'm gonna double down on
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Tony Todd as Kern. An amazing
performance, an amazing character that he helped
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to build that becomes so important as
we progress through the series. The set
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on Chronos is epic. I love
that set. It is so good and
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such a great follow up to that
previous episode where Riker was on the Klingon
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ship and seeing that from another point
of view, the emotional walls that Kern
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and Wharf both have to kind of
put up through this entire episode and ongoing
533
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it is this this season specifically is
a great step forward for Wharf's character and
534
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.719
for clean Ones in general. It
is and you get that the car is
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always the captain, the leader,
but here when they're on the Klingon world.
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You know, when the Card steps
up, you know, to assist
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Wharf, you know, the role's
kind of reverse you a little bit because
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Wof is the one that really has
to, you know, put the foot
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forward and you know, say what's
going on, what he needs to do,
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and what the outcome of all of
it is. The cards there to
541
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council him in this stuff. But
you know it's it's really p Card taking
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that back seat a little bit and
letting Wharf you know, take over because
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he has to, you know,
but still p Cards there and does some
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00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.840
really good things in this episode.
It's really hard to because, uh,
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you know, Patrick Sewartt usually dominates
the screen every time he's on there,
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but here he's he's taken the back
seat. Michael dorn Has has the front
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and center and and just really performs
incredible job. Ye all right, it's
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time for another break. Stay tuned, listeners, and we'll return after these
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important messages. Welcome back everybody,
and we're going to continue with our eighth
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pick. David tell us what that
is. It is the episode called The
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Most Toys Sounds like My life but
no kidding. On our routine mission shuttling
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important material, Data's shuttle explodes,
leaving everyone believing he is dead. However,
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00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:35.599
Data awakens to find himself part of
a collection by a crazy collector of
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original, unique, and one of
the kind items. The Enterprise moves on,
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continuing their mission to help a colony
while Data tries to find his way
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home and escape his capture. This
episode, you know, caught me by
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00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.119
surprise a little bit again. We're
getting another great performance by Brent Spiner.
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But Fajoe bet his name played by
Saul Rubinik, such a fantastic job here.
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00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:09.039
You really hate that guy, you
know, and you're supposed to,
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you know, because he wants it
his way and only his way. And
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when you see him try to control
Data in this episode and Data doesn't want
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to have anything to do with that
really leads to some really fun moments in
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this episode. Yeah, yeah,
this, Oh my god, that's so
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00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.079
hard to talk about. I know, so many important beats for Data.
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When you think about what I was
saying before from the Offspring, with his
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his his ability to emote for an
emotionless character. It is so powerful in
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this episode because there are so many
moral dilemmas in this episode for Data and
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his his fight for you know,
being seen as a being, not a
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piece of property, not a possession. Right, really really highlighted in this
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episode. You mentioned Saul Rubinik,
such an amazing performance. Talk about characters
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that are done so well that you
hate them so much, done with great
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00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:21.239
effect, like his use of audible
pauses, like when he takes a breath
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and it's kind of this like emotion
change for him, done just so well,
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just such an important part of this
character. But I really want to
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make sure that we mentioned the original
actor that was going to play Quibis Fajo,
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David Rappaport, in honor of his
memory. He's a very important actor
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00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:52.039
in my childhood, specifically time bandits
As Randall just an amazing actor and unfortunately
578
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:58.400
he was going through some struggles in
the early filming of this, and I
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00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:05.880
believe he attempted suicide a few days
into filming. Unfortunately, he would commit
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suicide two months later, and that's
when they had to bring sal Rubink in.
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This is one of those episodes where
I really impress on people. This
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is like an onion of an episode. So watch the episode itself, then
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look into some of the backstory of
this episode, specifically some of the interviews
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that Brent Spiner has done talking about
the development of this episode and his history
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with Saul. Knowing the connection that
they shared before filming this episode really gives
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it a whole another layer too unpack
and saw he did a phenomenal job for
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someone who has had to be brought
in right at the last minute and thrown
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00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:55.519
into filming to replace the original actor. The footage with David Rappaport is available
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to watch. It's on the Blu
ray of the third season. They both
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00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:05.079
put on a fantastic different performance to
the character. It's it's kind of a
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00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:12.320
nice so I'll look to see what
if with such a sad story. Yeah,
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00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.599
I find it interesting too in this
episode when they're going through data stuff,
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00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.360
it's the same stuff that he had
packed when he was leaving in The
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00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.960
Measure of a Man. Yeah,
the same same items. I thought that
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was interesting, And the very final
scene is one that for me, it
596
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:35.719
just sticks with me, like there's
a a non verbal exchange of looks between
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00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:39.440
two characters that I won't mention,
but it makes you think long after the
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00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:45.039
credits roll, like you know,
what really happened. Another thing too that
599
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:51.039
I also noticed in this episode was
the shuttle pod that Data is flying is
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called the Pike A little no,
Captain Christopher Pike. That's right, it's
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00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:59.800
not a neat I love it when
they do that stuff. It just it.
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It adds to the show so much
more. Love it too, And
603
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they're finally able to do it this
season as well. Right, all right,
604
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let's move on to our ninth pick. And I'm a little jealous that
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you got this one is It's one
of my, if not my favorite from
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the season. So Scott, you
tell us about it. Yeah, listen,
607
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I'm sure and have plenty to talk
about. Yeah. Simply titled Sarah,
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00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.360
directed by Leslandau, written by Peter
S. Beagle and Mark Cushman.
609
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In this one's Spock's father, Sarah
is one of the most important Vulcans in
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Star Trek history. Aside from what
we've seen in on screen. His diplomatic
611
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work has built or reinforced the foundations
of the Federation, and his most recent
612
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:44.159
mission on the Enterprise is focused on
that same goal. As a preeminent Vulcan,
613
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Sarah's ability to control his emotions as
an important part of his work.
614
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However, as Sarah arrives for this
delicate mission. Emotions on the Enterprise are
615
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:57.079
escalating and running a muck for some
mysterious reason. The emotional and historical impact
616
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of this episode will be felt throughout
the series. So hard to talk about
617
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:08.239
without spoiling things. The emotional performances
in this by Patrick Stewart and Mark Leonard
618
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:13.800
am I saying that, right,
that's right, correct, are just out
619
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of the park. Mark Leonard,
of course playing the titular character of Sarah,
620
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who is just as legend who is
just as legendary as the character he
621
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plays on Star Trek. Before he
became Sarah, he played a rodulent commander
622
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.079
in the original series as a balance
of terror, which we recently saw was
623
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an important part of Strange New Worlds. He first appeared as Sarah in Journey
624
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.800
to Babble If I'm not mistaken,
and returned in several Star Trek movies.
625
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I'm just skimming the surface way and
I think You're gonna have a lot more
626
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to say. But his contributions to
Bulkan culture and the Star Trek franchise are
627
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:52.159
immeasurable, and it's easy to see
why from just this episode. Oh yeah,
628
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.639
yeah, and this is the first
episode to directly reference and show the
629
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Balkan culture in the Next Generation first
to show a mind mold. Yep,
630
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.960
you know we we've they've avoided the
Vulcans like the plague for the first two
631
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.599
seasons. Now we finally get an
episode with them, and I'm glad to
632
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:13.679
see them fully involved in the Next
Generation universe. That I love this episode.
633
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:15.920
I loved it when it first aired. This is definitely my favorite episode
634
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:22.079
of the third season. There's just
so many fantastic scenes. And she said,
635
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.719
like the scenes between Patrick Stewart and
Mark Leonard are so powerful, so
636
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.679
they are emotional. The one that
stands out for me the most is the
637
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:36.000
concert. There's there's a concert scene
in the middle of the episode. It's
638
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.000
the way it's shot is just so
it's so stunning. It's, you know,
639
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:43.599
we got this beautiful piece of music
playing in the background, and you
640
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:47.639
know, there's no real dialogue,
it's just the camera movements, the cuts,
641
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:54.039
and the emotions shown by the actors
throughout the shot just tells the stories.
642
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:59.920
It's so beautifully done. Although Data
does make a little mistake Harry actually
643
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:07.239
uh names the piece of music they're
playing wrong. Hey, even androids aren't
644
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.960
aren't perfect They're not perfect, that's
right. So yeah, to to speak
645
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:14.119
about the performances again, and you
know we're gonna keep deeling on this because
646
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Mark Leonard and Patrick Stewart are just
at the top of their game, especially
647
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.239
in this episode. But as we
all know, Patrick Stewart is it what
648
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:27.960
Shakespearean performer. He that's how he
learned to become an actor. And you
649
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.559
clearly see that in this episode.
And you know what seeing him talking about
650
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:35.000
I can't say it because I don't
want to ruin it for our listeners,
651
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.239
but just the emotions and stuff that
this man has to go through and pull
652
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:45.480
off on screen is just something to
behold in this episode. Patrick Stewart is
653
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:50.679
great in everything that he has done, but man, he really shows shines
654
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:53.559
here. Man shines such a powerful
performance. I know exactly what scene you're
655
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:58.480
talking about. It is huge.
You know, your viewers out there,
656
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.880
first time viewers, you'll know exactly
what we're talking about too, and you
657
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.559
see it. It's Patrick Stewart.
He puts on his most powerful performance of
658
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:08.880
the series to the today. Yeah, and note too, is Picard mentions
659
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.840
that he was at Sarah's son's wedding
and you know who that is. Oh,
660
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.840
that's right, Yeah, he talks
about that. So I think patardsta
661
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:19.840
was like twenty two years ago,
which kind of funny. Twenty two years
662
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:24.159
comes up again when yesterday's Enterprise was
twenty two years as well. Interesting.
663
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:28.800
Huh, that's right. Yeah,
all right. Let's move on to our
664
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:32.400
tenth and final episode of the season
of Starter Treks. David, you have
665
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:37.440
the privilege of giving us this one. Gentlemen, thank you for letting me
666
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.199
have this one. And once everybody
sees this one, you're gonna know what
667
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:46.280
we're talking about here. Resistance is
Futile, Best of both Worlds, Part
668
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:52.000
one, The Enterprise and its crew
respond to a distressed call from a Federation
669
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.559
colony. On arriving, it discovered
the colony is gone, ripped from the
670
00:50:55.679 --> 00:51:00.960
very fabric of the planet. Quickly, the Enterprise meets up with another Federation
671
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:06.039
ship, where they are joined by
Admiral Hansson and Lieutenant Commander Shelby. It
672
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.960
is quickly discovered that the greatest villain
and threat to the Federation has arrived,
673
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:15.159
the Borg. Lieutenant Commander Shelby remains
on board the Enterprise as she has become
674
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:20.719
sort of an Borg expert, and
the ship and crew needs her expertise to
675
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:24.199
survive a possible encounter. It isn't
long, however, to when they discover
676
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:30.039
the infamous Tube ship and the fight
for survival begins. Gentlemen, I think
677
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.239
you will both agree with me when
I say this is the greatest cliffhanger in
678
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:39.480
all the Star Trek. M Oh, yeah, definitely. When I watched
679
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:44.400
this for the first time when it
aired in nineteen ninety, that was the
680
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:52.360
longest summer. I'm waiting for the
second part. Ye my god. And
681
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.000
we're not gonna give away spoilers,
because man, does this have a cliffhanger
682
00:51:55.039 --> 00:52:00.119
at the end that you're gonna be
like, are you kidding me? Today?
683
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.559
Said yeah today. For those who
have not seen this, good for
684
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.320
you that you get to see the
second part right away. We couldn't.
685
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:13.480
We had to wait the whole summer
and it was mind boggling. But gentlemen,
686
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:17.920
let's talk about Commander Shelby played by
Elizabeth Denny, who does such a
687
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:22.320
fantastic job. There is a scene
between her and Riker when they're on the
688
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:28.599
turtle lift that the friction between those
two characters because Shelby wants his job,
689
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.880
you know, and Riker doesn't really
want to give that up because he loves
690
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:37.119
being the first number one on the
Enterprise under Pericard. But there's just some
691
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.440
things that come up in this episode
that you know, we're questioning for Riker.
692
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:47.079
You know, one of my favorite
lines in this episode comes from the
693
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:53.119
Admiral when he's talking to Picard and
he's talking about Riker. You know,
694
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:57.440
you know we've given you know,
we've we've pulled out that direct that that
695
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:01.440
Captain's cheer. He just doesn't want
to sit. You know. I love
696
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:06.199
that line, and you know,
it brings up some stuff for a Riker
697
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:07.400
that he has to deal with in
this episode. But on top of that,
698
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:12.280
he has to deal with so in
this episode who keeps getting in his
699
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.119
way? Like so much good stuff
in this you know, this was basically
700
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.840
what a sequel to Q who.
Yeah, you know, and I know
701
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.159
this was supposed to be like a
three parter at one time, and I
702
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:27.199
guess they had to pull back on
it. It kind of still is if
703
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.239
you really look at season four,
and we'll get into it next episode.
704
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:31.800
But yeah, yeah, absolutely,
but I don't want to give I don't
705
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.360
want to talk about all of that
gentlemen, please join me in the love
706
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.880
of this episode. Please. But
you know, there was a lot of
707
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:38.960
rumors back then. You know,
back then we didn't have the internets,
708
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:43.519
and you know, we didn't have
all this behind the scenes information. We
709
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:45.880
had to get it from magazines or
word of mouth. But you know,
710
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:51.239
you watch this episode, you know
we heard there were rumors that maybe Patrick
711
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.199
Stewart was going to be written out
of the series, that Riker was going
712
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:58.280
to be taking over, and there
were rumors that that Shelby was going to
713
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.239
join the cast and be that the
new first officer of the show. We
714
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.639
didn't know that, I mean it
from this episode, it could have it
715
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:07.639
looked like that was what was going
to happen. We never knew and having
716
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.880
to wait three months. Oh my
gosh, I was screaming at the television
717
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.559
when the TV continued comes up.
You know, how can you do this
718
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:21.960
to us? You know, it's
it's amazing the feelings we had back then.
719
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.360
Looking back, it's I laugh now. But it was a long,
720
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:30.840
long summer of wait and when I
think, when I think, you'll join
721
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:36.280
me too in seeing how incredible the
music was in this episode. Oh yeah,
722
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.880
Ron Jones, uh you know,
he gave us an incredible score,
723
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:43.199
and you know, they also once
again knew this was going to be a
724
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:46.519
big episode. They put everything into
it, and they doubled his budget,
725
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:52.119
gave him a twice this big orchestra, seventy seven piece of orchestra, and
726
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:58.119
it really shows he's a phenomenal composer. The producers hated him, but he
727
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:02.760
was a phenomenal composer. And shortly
after that they released it on CD,
728
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:06.400
and I mean I went out rushed
and bought it, so we all did.
729
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.400
Yeah. Yeah, this is one
where I mean in terms of a
730
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:15.719
cliffhanger specifically at the time, this
is not like you know, holding on
731
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.880
to that cliff with your you know, with both hands. It's one finger
732
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.000
left on that cliff. It takes
you right out to that line. Man.
733
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:28.320
And you know, this is something
that we're doing for first time listeners
734
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:30.039
and for people who are coming back, and it's kind of you know,
735
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.880
created pick shown our love and people
come back and see it. But if
736
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:37.519
it's your first time, at least
try to wait twenty four hours, yes,
737
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.599
before you see that next episode,
because there's something that we're kind of
738
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:50.079
missing in having that tension hang on. I haven't really felt that since Infinity
739
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:53.519
War leading into endgame. Yeah right, I would have that amount of time
740
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:59.559
that it just it helps a little
bit to give the It gives that that
741
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:05.760
part two more more weight, and
there's there's something to be said for waiting
742
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:10.239
on that. This is actually one
of the times when I started recording episodes
743
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:15.000
on the VCR, because at the
time, not only do we not have
744
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:20.119
the satisfaction of being able to see
what happens next right immediately or wane to
745
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.440
your point looking at the internet for
you know, theories and facts and whatever,
746
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:27.559
you didn't get to see it again
until it was rerun in syndication.
747
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:30.039
And this is one where you really
want to be like, what what did
748
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:35.960
I just see? You watch it
a couple of times. This has so
749
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:42.880
much impact that's felt all the way
through to Picard season three. It's it's
750
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:50.239
such a journey for so many characters, one character in particular that I won't
751
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:57.280
mention, but Riker as well,
struggling with that, you know, why
752
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.519
am I not going to my own
ship? This is an important part in
753
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:08.039
that. Yeah, and showing what
he does in leadership roles, away teams
754
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:12.519
and all this other kind of stuff. So yeah, it's it's so hard
755
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:17.719
to talk about this, it is
without getting into the the the resolution of
756
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:22.360
it. But we're giddy. Yeah, we're also giddy about it because we
757
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:25.159
know how good this is and what
it did for us when we first saw
758
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:30.039
this, you know, years and
years ago. But the ramifications of this
759
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:34.559
episode are to come, not just
for the opening of season four, but
760
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:37.440
you know, First Contact, the
Star Trek, the Next Ration movie that
761
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:42.960
I talked about is the best next
Generation film. Yes, this has a
762
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.679
lot of consequences in that film too, and Emissary as well, and Emissary
763
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:51.079
absolutely. Yeah, there's just there's
so much involvement in it. Now.
764
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.960
I remember when we talked about Q
WHU, how all three of us,
765
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:59.239
you know, we agreed on how
you just get that atmospheric feeling of of
766
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:02.519
of something huge is coming. You
get that again in this one. I
767
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:07.400
don't know if it just because because
it comes with the Borg and its just
768
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.960
how much of an incredible villain they
are and just how almost impossible they are
769
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.239
to beat, but it's just you
get that again in this episode. You
770
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:19.079
just feel it, like the hair
standing on your you know, standing up
771
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.400
as you're watching this episode because you
know what's coming and what that crew has
772
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:28.440
to deal with. Just incredible episode. And I had mentioned last season with
773
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:31.119
q who that that episode felt like
a teaser, and it was that it
774
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:34.360
was a teaser for this. Yeah, I mean, this is this is
775
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.480
what we wanted waited for. We
wanted these board to come back, and
776
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.199
we wanted to see a true confrontation
right here it is. Yeah, and
777
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:46.480
even Deep Space nine opens up with
what we're gonna see uh in two partern
778
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:52.119
Yes, which is interesting. You
mention that because when I watched this episode
779
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:57.639
before I watched part two, I
stopped and watched at least the first part
780
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:00.639
of DS nine. Yeah. Don't
do that. Yeah, don't do that.
781
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:04.679
If you're a first time we don't
do that. But if you have,
782
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.440
try it out, take a taste
and see an important event from another
783
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:13.239
side. Yeah, there is.
You guys know that. You know,
784
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:15.719
I love photography. I love cinema
work, and anytime they do incredible camera
785
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:17.599
work in a movie, it just, you know, it just makes me
786
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:22.159
love the episode so much more.
The last shot in this episode, and
787
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:25.320
I can't say what it is,
but it's that that wrap around shot where
788
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:30.360
it slowly moves in on the person
and it slowly moves around in front of
789
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:35.079
that person just to build that emotion
intense of what's happening. And I love
790
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:37.559
that shot at the end, freaking
loved it. All Right, gentlemen,
791
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:42.440
we've talked about our top ten episodes
of season three on Star Trek the Next
792
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:45.239
Generation, So now let's take a
side step and chat about some of our
793
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:50.880
favorite character moments. For season one, we chose Riker, Season two is
794
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:53.079
Data, and now for season three, we're going to talk about what we
795
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:59.679
think is our favorite moments for the
enterprises kling On Security Officer war Scott wats
796
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:04.960
your Pa, Prune Juice his first
day, his first Days and Prunes and
797
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:08.639
Yesterday's enterprise. It's a pretty minor
thing in the context of how much happens
798
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:13.920
for Wharf, but it comes up
several times throughout the series. He shares
799
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:16.880
a moment with where he opens himself
up a little bit and tries something from
800
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:22.239
Earth that he calls a Warrior's drink. There's so much of warf kind of
801
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:28.360
exploring what it means to be Klon, but then there there are other aspects
802
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:35.519
to it. There's a moment later
when has a line where she says no
803
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:39.960
other Klingons laugh, you don't,
but they do, and it's just getting
804
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:44.280
him to kind of open up a
little bit. But yeah, Prune Juice
805
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so so fun. That's a good
choice. What about you, I tell
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you we give a Hoffman answer.
Yes, there that I should struggle with
807
01:00:54.719 --> 01:01:00.679
in this episode. Both episodes were
we've talked about. One is is the
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Enemy where? And again I can't
say what it is because I don't want
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to give that away for our listeners
if who's not seen the episode. But
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the struggle he had, the scene
he had with Picard where you know,
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he was talking about and you know, Picard was telling him, you know,
812
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I could make you do this,
but you know I'm not, or
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am I. It's your decision.
Just the struggle that Warf had there right
814
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then and there, I just I
love that. But the other one is,
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you know, talking about Warf having
to make the decision that he does
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in Sins of the Father at the
end of that episode. Just what he
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had to do there just blows my
mind as a person, as a character,
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because he could have just blown that
whole thing open, you know,
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and changed everything for the Klingons,
but he didn't. He decided to you
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know, keep it internal and just
you know, let it go on,
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and the performance of Michael Dorn had
there in that scene just was just And
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01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:06.519
again when Michael Dorman says, you
know that was one of his favorite episodes,
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I can see why, because that
set Wharf up to who he is
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and and just sent him into that
trajectory of where he's going with his character
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that we're going to see in the
rest of the next generation and we're going
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to see in Deep Space nine and
and on and on and on. You
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know, it's just it sets up
so much from just the you know,
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that scene in itself. So that's
why I have to I had to say
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both of those, Yeah, and
I agree with you. I'm going to
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go with actually one of the same
ones you mentioned, and that's the Enemy.
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I just it's that scene is so
incredible, between the Wharf and the
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01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:44.480
card. Yeah. There, it's
it's such a choice that he has to
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make, and we were reminded that, you know, Warf isn't human and
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he's not bound by the same morals
that we are. I know, Michael
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Dorn questioned the decision at first when
he first got the script, thinking it
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would be more honorable to do the
other. But he came around, and
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I think that was right. I
just I love this scene. I think
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the whole episode's a strong episode for
Warmth, especially that, So I agree
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with you, David on that one. Yeah, all right, now is
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the time we get to talk about
our least favorite episode of the season,
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which this is a hard one.
Now, listeners out there, you may
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like the episodes we chose, and
that's okay. Everyone's allowed to have their
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01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:28.639
favorites and their least favorites. But
here are some of our least favorite moments
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from students three. So, Scott, what's your choice for least favorite?
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For me? It was not easy. That's a good answer. Not easy.
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01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:45.639
So The Price. There's an episode
called The Price, and you've got
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01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:51.119
great performances in there. Matt McCoy, who Seinfeld fans will recognize as Lloid
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01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:57.360
Braun, gives a great performance.
However, I do feel like the episode
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didn't resonate with me. Seeing how
Troy is manipulated emotionally, it seems like
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01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:08.880
it was almost kind of reductive of
her character. Even though they're they're aspects
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01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:12.360
of the episode that come up as
important. It just felt like I don't
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01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:18.119
know. It felt like it was
it was giving Troy. It was it
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01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:21.960
was almost a Troy centric episode,
but the way it was Troy centric bothered
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01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:25.519
me a lot. And I can't
really define why. But you know,
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but you got the erotic oiling sequence
on I think you just nailed it,
856
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.639
Wayne. Thanks. She just I
didn't know how to you just did,
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01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:40.880
bab what about you? So it's
really hard I struggled to find And I
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01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:43.519
don't want to say any of these
are terrible episodes because they're really not.
859
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:46.000
In this season. The only one
that just did not resonate with me is
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01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:54.000
Minaja Troy, the whole kidnapping plot
by the FARRINGI. And you know,
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01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:58.440
Michelle Barry is awesome as the Walk's
on a Troy She yes, she really
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01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:00.760
is. So don't let me say
this is a terrible episode because I can't
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01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:05.280
say that because there's some really good
performances in here. And please don't shoot
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01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:09.559
me Star Trek fans because I'm not
a big fan of the FARINGI I'm not.
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01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:13.599
I love Quark and Deep Space nine
and I love what he did with
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01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:18.239
that character, but I'm not a
huge Feringi fan. So that attracted this
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01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:21.920
episode for me as well. But
yeah, just not a big fan of
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01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.440
that episode at all. It's good, don't get me wrong, and a
869
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:30.679
good great performances, but nah,
it's okay. Yeah. I we'll definitely
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01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:34.840
see more of that Ferangie evolution and
redemption in DS nine, so just be
871
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:39.760
patient. We'll get there. But
I know I hear what you're saying.
872
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:42.800
Yeah, for sure, Wayne,
what about you? This was a hard
873
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:46.079
one for me too. There really
isn't any clear cut terrible episodes this season.
874
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:50.559
But I think I'm gonna go with
an episode It's not terrible, it's
875
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:56.000
just kind of boring. That would
be the vengeance factor. It's just it's
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01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:00.440
an average episode for the series.
Nothing really excited happens in it. It's
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01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:05.280
got some good guest actors at Lisa
Wilcox, she was in Nightmare on Elm
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01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:10.400
Street to three and four, but
I assumeing four and five and you know,
879
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:14.079
I get a little bit of a
romantic scenes for Jonathan Frakes. But
880
01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:16.760
the thing is is it's just a
blot episode stuck right in the middle of
881
01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:21.679
all these fantastic episodes. So that's
my choice. Yeah, as you say,
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01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:25.000
it was a tough decision. For
all of us. You know this
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is a great season, so how
can you pick a least favorite episode when
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they're all pretty decent? Yeap,
All right, listeners. I want to
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thank everyone for tuning in with us
for our top ten picks of the Next
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Generation Season three, and we appreciate
everyone listening in and supporting us. David
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Scott, thank you so much for
joining me on the battle Bridge our pleasure.
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Yeap oh, it was a good
time course. Our hailing frequency are
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891
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think should have been in our top
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