Renny Harlin - The Long Kiss Goodnight

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I mean, it's Christmas time.
It's it's the holidays are upon us.

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We're like three weeks out from the
big day. I'm in, I'm in,

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I'm catching the spirit. I'm in
the mood. What what do you

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need? Like, what's some things
that make your Christmas complete? I am

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very much about like the old school
animation, you know, the the claymation,

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Rudolph, Yeah, you know,
Charlie Brown and the Hannah Barbera And

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I mean, I just pull all
those DVDs out. I always like to

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try to find something new around the
holidays because you watched so many of them

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over and over and over again.
Oh naturally. So this year I watched

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Christmas in Connecticut for the first time, which version and the nineteen forty five

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version with you and og okay,
I did. I love her. I

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can't believe I've never seen it,
but oh my gosh, what I that

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was. So that's a new favorite
that's getting put into the rotation. But

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then I just saw on social media
the other day and I was like,

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oh my gosh, what a genius
idea. Somebody was having the Shane Black

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Christmas Marathon. Yes, and I
was like, yes, we're doing this.

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Oh, that is a great idea. I'll tell you what. Since

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you brought that up, Let's talk
about a film by Rennie Harlan, his

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nineteen ninety six underrated, action packed
Christmas thriller The Long Kiss Good Night.

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Hello everybody, and welcome back to
a film by a podcast. I'm Jeff

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Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis from Docking
Bay seventy seven. We're talking Reddy Harlan's

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The Long Kissed a Night starring Gina
Davis. She's got many skill sets.

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She bakes, she's on the PTA, she's a school teacher, clause in

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the Missus Claus, she's an assassin. When I think of these skill sets,

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there's only one person I could think
of that that could do all this,

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and it's you, Amber. So
absolutely, thank you for joining me

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today. Thank you Samber. For
those that haven't seen this film, The

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Long Kiss of Night, can you
give us a brief synopsis? Absolutely?

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This is from the back of the
Blu Ray. Samantha Caine, played by

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Gina Davis, a suburban school teacher, suffers from amnesia. When her mysterious

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past begins to haunt her idyllic life, she sets out on a desperate search

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to discover her true identity. Aided
by Mitch Hennessy played by Samuel L.

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Jackson, a deadbeat private detective,
she follows a trail of clues into the

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middle of a terrorist conspiracy in the
US intelligence community. They slowly learn that

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Kane is much more than a soft
spoken teacher. Repressed from her memory is

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her former life as Charlie Baltimore,
a highly trained secret agent and killer.

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But Charlie is slowly re emerging,
which spells trouble for the terrorists and anybody

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else who gets in her way.
She suffers from focal retrograde amnesia. It's

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a condition where an individual cannot remember
past memories, but their ability to create

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new memories remains intact. This can
be caused by brain injuries, surgeries,

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traumatic events, even nutrition issues.
Amber, as a school teacher, a

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chance like if we torture you,
could you could you be an assassin?

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We just don't know. I mean, I have a lot of skill sets,

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but I don't think murder is one
of them. Let's let's talk Shane

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black So he becomes the first writer
to sell a script in Hollywood for four

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million dollars and some of his peers
even suggest he so he sells out on

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this one. Yeah, And I
don't you know, writers get have a

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hard enough time. I don't think
that making money for doing something while is

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is necessarily something he should be ostracized
for. Not at all, Not at

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all. There's probably a lot of
jeousy there too. I'm sure there's a

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there's a tinge of that. Uh. You mentioned the Shane Black Christmas Marathon

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that people are now doing, And
if you're you're wondering, like, well,

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what what what makes up that that
list? Where to leath the Weapon,

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the Last Boy, Scout, Kiss
Kiss Bang Bang, Iron Man three

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and the nice Guys? I was
gonna say, not not a bad choice.

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No great Christmas movies that aren't Christmas
movies, right, I don't know,

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that's a whole nother debate. Like
I think the idea of Christmas movie

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is broadening somewhat, so, oh, it certainly is. And you know,

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anyone listening to our show this month, you know, just wait till

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they hear the next Christmas classic we
got lined up for him. But yes,

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Renny Harlan and Gena Davis, you
know, Geena Davis is playing Charlie

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Baltimore aka Samantha Kine. What a
great name. It is a great name,

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right Wait, which with Charlie Baltimore, that is it's it's it's got

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character, it's got it's fun.
We gotta think about this. Linda Hamilton,

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Sarah Connor, Sigourney Weavers, Ripley. These are two of the most

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famous female action heroes in cinema history, and Renny Harlan wants to generate more

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interest in female action stars, so
he creates the Opper Tuning for his wife

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Geena Davis. You know, they
do Cutthroat Island, then they do The

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Long Kiss Night. And I don't
know why these movies, both of them

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especially, I don't know why they
didn't hit bigger? Have you? I

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mean you, I mean have you
seen cut Throat Island? I have not.

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I was really swayed by just the
horrible reviews and just the the nightmare

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stories of production, and you know, so I was like, why do

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I even want to do this?
I'll be honest with you. I recently

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I watched it for the first time
because, like you, it just didn't

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look appealing when it was marketed.
I didn't buy Matthew Modine as like a

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squash buckling Errol Flynn type. I
know we'll get into a little bit more

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later, but you're right, a
lot of production issues on that one becomes

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the biggest box office bomb of all
time. But but I watched it,

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and I don't see what the I
don't see what all the hates for.

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It's it's a fun movie. You
know. If you like pirate movie,

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it's it's. I mean, I
love a good female pirate like that.

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She's fantastic. Okay, you know
what it's. It's I'll tell you right

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now. It's on two B.
Check it out because it it's a fun

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one. You know, if you
like female pirates and you like Geena Davis,

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give it, give it a shot. That is what I tell you.

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I'll tell you one thing about Geena
Davis amber she should stop driving Volvo

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station wagons, right, not a
lot of luck, just stop driving well,

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I mean, I look, I
don't want to say anything about her

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driving skills because she you know,
she handles herself pretty good later in the

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movie. But she's driving a Volvo
station wagon at the beginning of this.

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Uh. It's it's basically it's the
same making model as the one she's driving

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in beetlejuice, and in both situations
she swerves to hit a deer or she

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swerves to hit a dog and runs
the Volvo off the road and people die.

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So I don't know, maybe maybe
stay away from Volvos in jail.

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I guess this episode not sponsored by
Volvo, by the way, clearly,

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let's talk Samuel Jacksons Mitch Hennessy.
Oh my gosh, I wrote really big

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in my notes. He has chemistry
with everyone, everyone, right, you

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know, he claims this is his
favorite role. I mean, you got

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to think about this for a second. This is in the Star Wars universe.

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He's Mace wind Do. He's he's
huge, a huge part of the

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MCU. You know, he's Jewels
from Paul Fishy. He's done some epic

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roles, and Mitch Hennessy in this
small, little Renny Harlan film is his

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all time favorite. I love that
about Samuel Jackson, honestly, absolutely.

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I Mean it's easy to say that
the most popular ones are your favorite,

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but I think that a movie like
this, where his character has a lot

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of layers, you know, he
gets to do a lot of fun stuff,

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get some stunts and some you know, kind of being the he's kind

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of the woman in the movie.
He's the he's the sidekick. He's the

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sidekick. Yeah, yeah, you
know, he's definitely leading. He has

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that great role. He even has
that great line later in the movie where

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he he looks at it like they're
you know, they're they're captured and he

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he looks at her says, hey, I'll be looking forward to you coming

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to save me here soon. She's
like, she's like, give me a

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minute. I love that. I
love that about his character. This is

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no spoiler because you know, we're
talking about a movie from nineteen ninety six

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and it didn't happen, but his
character dies in the movie initially. You

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know, that's that's the role.
I love this. During a test screening,

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someone famously yelled out, you can't
kill Samuel L. Jackson. Well,

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guess what. The filmmakers agreed.
You know, he tested through the

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roof his character, so they reached
They go back, they reshoot the ending

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with him living, and as a
nod to that that the theater patron and

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the test screening, Jackson's character when
he explodes out of the back of that

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truck, he has that great line, that's right, you can't kill me.

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Mother efforts perfect perfect line. Yeah, I just I just I just

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love the guy. He's so fun
in this Other than that, Amber,

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I know, we've got a who's
who of that guy's like JD. Spradlin

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and David Morse. We gotta mention
Brian Cox. Coincidentally, Cox has a

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knack for mentoring former assassins with amnesia. He goes on to do it again

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with Matt Damon in two thousand and
two Is the Born Identity and you Jackman

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in two thousand and threes X two
X Men United? Is this the guy

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you want mentoring you about X Men? Yeah? But yeah, the minute

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this movie kind of got going,
I was like, oh, it's a

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Born Identity. Well it's funny you
say that because this film is loosely based

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off Robert Lum's novel The Bourne Identity, and Brian Cox is in both of

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them. So there's there's your fun
double feature, right there be long kiss,

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good night and The Bourne Identity.
I think I mean his the people

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he mentors, you know, they
come out on top. So fair to

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say that. You know, if
you wake up tomorrow, Amber and you

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realize, hey, I'm not a
school teacher, I'm a I'm a black

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Ops CIA assass and you're probably looking
for Brian Cox first, right, I'm

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yeah, I'm gonna look for his
phone number. Check my phone. I'll

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definitely look for him. You know, he is a great mentor, is

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what I'm getting at. Brian Cox, great mentor. Well, Amber,

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let's take a quick break, and
when we get back, I want to

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get into a little bit about this
film's background and talk about the pivotal scene.

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Okay, awesome. Hi, I'm
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West Side Story. All Right,
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hit the bottom of the barrel because
he slaughters all the Tusken Raiders. The

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fact that she stays by his side, that that tells me everything I need

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to know about these women that write
letters to serial killers in prison. You

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know, it makes it made sense. You know, MOPy Young Sad always

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dumped Tim. That was the theme
song. You know when you listen,

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Tim, did you have the volume
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nightmare fuel, but the fact that
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Jango fed is so awesome and he's
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isn't he doing the job. You're
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then what your slack ass mother?
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We are back talking with Amber Lewis

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from the Docking Bay seventy seven podcast. Amber that you said this is this

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was your first time watching it?
Right? Yeah, I came completely cold.

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I knew almost nothing about it.
So I got to ask, you

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know, initial thoughts, like what
did you think of this one? I

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thought it was a great ride.
I couldn't believe that I had missed it.

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You know, in the beginning,
I was like, how did this

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one slip through? And I think, you know, I read a lot

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about how the failure of Cutthroat Island
in the marketing for this movie really kind

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of hindered them in selling you know, another Geena Davis, Rennie Harlan,

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you know, matchup, and so
I think, you know, it just

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kind of slipped through the cracks because
it's really good. So I know there's

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been more than one more than one
episode on docum based seventy seven where you've

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you know, you're you've kind of
been a great advocate for female action stars,

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female action hero roles. Fair to
say that Charlie Baltimore Samantha Caine does

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she does she rank? Would she
rank in your top ten? If you

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did a you know, or even
a top seven? You know Dayton loves

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his top seven. Would she would
this role, with this, with this

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uh, this character make a make
a top seven in uh? In your

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your lineup? Now? Well,
I famously agonize over my lists, so

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I can tell you she would definitely
be on the list at some point.

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Whether or not she would make it
to the final broadcast, it kind of

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depends, but you would definitely make
the first cut. But she's a contender,

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right, Yeah, absolutely good.
You mentioned you really liked the name

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Charlie Baltimore. Quick thing about her
other name in the movie, Samantha Caine.

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It's more than an alias, the
name Sam Kine. No, it's

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an anagram, yes, an anagram
for amnesiac. How great is that?

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I love that about this? Uh? Oh, that's hilarious. It's funny.

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Now here's where you might gnash your
teeth a little bit and uh and

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you got you got Shane Black to
think, you know, he's in your

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corner. During the development phase,
New Line execs considered switching the character to

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a man. Well, of course
they did. And while they considered,

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they're they're trying to They're they're fighting
amongst themselves whether it should be Steven Sagal

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or Sylvester Stallone. Shane Black insists
that the character was female, is female,

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could only be female, and they, you know, you figure,

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well, we're giving the guy four
million dollars, we should probably listen to

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him, so right, Yeah,
they backed off. That was one of

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my biggest like gripes watching the movie
was she's literally the only woman. Yeah,

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I mean, aside from the little
girl playing her daughter. Who you

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know, she'll show up twenty years
later in a couple other Shane Black or

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a couple of other shame Black movies. But that's it in the Secretary.

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that's it. She's carrying a lot
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this movie have been? You know, if, like we often talk it

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on the eighty six series that we
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sequel or remake. Well, if
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just load it with women, just
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badass women could you fit into this
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the people pulling the strings and well, Shane Black sells this script with the

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understanding that Harlan will direct it and
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explains to him, Hey, we're
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first, and that did not go
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one of the biggest box office bombs
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believes it's it's that and in poor
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the dismal box office that this one
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is a cult classic. Now like
this, this is one of those that

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it didn't do really well and it's
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video, it hits on streaming,
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everyone loves this movie. Now.
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cable were like a friend to it
because it was one of those like it

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was always on TBS. Yeah,
it's funny, like I remember seeing like

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we've we've jokingly talked about TNT's movies
for guys who like movies, where it's

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always like the macho you know,
one guy like Schwartzenegger's fighting like a whole

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army by himself or whatever. This
one was on the TNT movies for guys

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who like movies quite a bit,
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I mean it belongs to Yeah,
we talked. You mentioned our limited nineteenth

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series of How You Know Things could
be Like with a prequel sequel remake.

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Sadly, the last page of Shane
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in a movie called The Kiss After
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as of two thousand and seven and
then they never moved forward on it,

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so I don't know at this point. You know, Geena Davis is I

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want to say, she's in her
early sixties, so I'm guessing she's probably

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not wanting to jump off buildings and
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machine guns, but you'd have to, you have to. I think Helen

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Marin was well unto her seventies and
doing red and that's a fair point.

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The latest Fast and Furious or one
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I'll tell you, you know,
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because they talk about Charlie's past,
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There's a great movie that Charlie's theirne
did it called Atomic Blonde and it's

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set in the nineteen eighty Have you
seen that one? Yes, I'm telling

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you, I mean change the names. And that could almost be the prequel

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to Lungkis Cannight. Like I could
almost see Charlie Slurn's character being Geena Davis's

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character. Yeah, that's another that's
another way I'm looking at it. A

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lot of great moments in this movie. It's Shane Black, so we know

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we're gonna get some great comedic beats
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Obviously. Let me ask you,
Amber, what for you, what's the

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pivotal scene in this movie? I
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and this was where I was thinking, It's like I clicked and it

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was the Bourne identity. I love
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he all of a sudden like realizes
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and he sells that so well.
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Davis has of her like superpower emerging
and you know, she can like vegetables.

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She's chopping that carrot like it's the
first time she's ever held a knife

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in her hand. And the boyfriend
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a little snarky with her and making
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she flips a switch and she's she's
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then he's just throwing stuff at her
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mean, just destroying these these vegetables, and they're laughing. The daughter's laughing.

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She is just going to town,
like you know, she's she's chopping

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those vegetables as fast as Bishop is
jamming that knife in the table in between

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Bill Paxston's hand and Aliens as far
as I'm concerned, And I love that

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everyone's laughing and smiling. It's this
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the air and then throws the knife
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into the cabinet and she's like,
chefs do that. The look of the

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look of concern on the guy's face, like I don't want to go to

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sleep next to her tonight. That's
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similar would be Uh. For me, it's gonna be the water torture scene

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with her where she is still Samantha
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doesn't know who she is. Uh. And then David Moore starts like ice

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cold water. He's got her on
this like wheel and he's like lowering into

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the water and then he pulls her
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know she's getting the flashes of who
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death of Samantha Kane and the rebirth
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it highlights Gina's strength as an actress
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this movie, and she's bouncing back
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love I love the fact that she
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would have said that scene, but
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all way, shape or form.
So we started getting into that and I'm

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like, okay, first of all, why is she stripped down to her

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underwear? Like you can't just like
dunker with her clothes on. Like that

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felt gratuitous, and then you know, just the horrificness of it. Yeah,

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you know, I'm constantly like watching
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didn't quite get the full impact because
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of the sea. I will,
like my counterpoint to your gratuitous comment,

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Let's not forget Shane Black. He's
he's notorious for water torture. Martin Riggs

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stripped down, you know, he's
he's there shirtless as as mister Indo is,

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uh, you know, soaking him
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electrocuting him. Yeah, exactly.
So you know it's it's one of those

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things like you know, it's freezing
water, like you know, we want

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to torture the person. We can't
have them, We can't let let them

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have their parka. You know,
you gotta ship them down a little bit,

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right, you know, she said, hey, to be to be

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fair, she's wearing more clothes than
Riggs was, So that's true. All

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right, Yeah, did you know
a fun fact? She actually her and

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Rennie practiced in their bathtub at home
to see how long she could hold her

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breath, so they could figure out
the timing of those scenes where they got

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to, you know, drop her
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back up and bring her back up. Yeah, she's she's doing her homework.

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She's at home saying, Han,
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me. Yeah, fantastic stuff.
Let's talk about the husband. Let's talk

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about the man of the hour,
Rennie Harlan. I got a couple of

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things here for you. Rennie Lour
Moritz Harjola was born in Rihiemki, Finland,

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in nineteen fifty nine, but took
his father's original surname in nineteen eighty

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seven. He studied at the University
of Art and Design Helsinki before directing commercials

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and company films for Shell in the
nineteen eighties. It was nineteen eighty two

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while working as a buyer for a
finished film distributor he meets Marcus Sieln.

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They form a quick friendship and they
write a screenplay called Arctic Heat, which

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will later become his directorial debut born
American. Uh, more on that one

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in a minute, Amber, because
I got I got something to say about

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that one. Okay, but uh, he moves to La to work for

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producer Erwin Yoblins. Uh, the
Erwin Yoblins, famous for Halloween among other

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horror titles. Yoblins offers him a
film called Prison in nineteen eighty eight.

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That very same year, he is
persistently lobbying for the directing job on Nightmare

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on Elm Street four, The Dreammaster, and finally wins producer Bob shay Over

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and gets that gig. Yeah.
I had no idea he did that.

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Yeah, that one. That one
makes his career. I know, I

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got a good one. Nightmare on
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Yeah, yeah, okay, all
right, all right, well all right,

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we're gonna we're gonna talk about that
when a minute here. He was

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obviously he was married to Geena Davis
from nineteen ninety three to nineteen ninety eight.

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What could possibly break these two up? Amber, Well, he was

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unfaithful. So oh, Gina,
Gina, file for the Wondering Eye.

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Yeah, just like Samuel Jackson's Wondering
Eye in the car when that lady was

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jogging by. Oh my gosh,
she had something to say about that three

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six in the car. Yeah,
but no. Sadly, Gina filed for

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divorce shortly after her personal assistant gave
birth to Harlan's first child. So,

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oh, man, not somebody that
worked for someone. Yeah, her personal

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assistant. On top of that,
cheating with the nanny. Yeah, very

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very chrimy. It's a crummy thing
to do. Let's get into his filmography.

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He's he's got thirty seven credits to
his name. I know he's got

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some music videos, he's got some
foreignsuff. We're probably go to stay away

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from Amber, but I want to
start off with his directorial debut, Born

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American. This one comes out in
nineteen eighty six, And again, we

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love our nineteen eighty six movies on
this on this podcast. Heck yeah,

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there's a reason we skipped this one. Amber. This I've never heard of

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it. No. I watched this
one recently just because I was like,

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wait, did I see it?
Why didn't I see? It's eighty six.

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So this one famously was going to
star Chuck Norris, and I think

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ultimately what they got was, Hey, this really amazing movie. Red Dawn

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just came out a few years ago. Can we make that with like one

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tenth of the budget and and get
whoever will be in it. Chuck has

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some production delays, he decides on
I'm out, so they go after his

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son, Mike Norris, who you
know, you know what, I'm not

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gonna say a bad thing about Chuck
Norris's son, because if he's listening to

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this, Chuck Norris will get you. So. But there's plenty of other

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issues with Born Born American. You
know, three college buddies, they're they're

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gonna go see Finland. And then
they decide, uh, one drunken night

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to sneak into the border of Russia
just to say they could do it.

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it's good. But the last hour
and change movie doesn't know what it wants

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to be. It becomes a war
movie. It becomes like an underground pit

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fighting movie. It's it's all over
the it's all over the place. It's

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the only way you should watch Born
American is if you've if it's on like

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Mystery Science Theater three thousand, because
these guys like would have a field day

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with it. And I would watch
it. Uh, that would be fun,

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I think. Moving on to nineteen
eighty seven, he does. He

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does everyone Yoblins movie Prison. This
is what I haven't seen. Have you

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seen this one, Namber No,
never even heard of it. I gotta

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be honest, I want to see
it quick. Uh you know once one

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more one sentence synopsis. The spirit
of a long dead prisoner returns for revenge,

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haunting the prison's new governor. And
that one better. I scrolled down

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on IMDb as you're reading that Lane
Smith and Vigo Mortenson. I mean,

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I'm in Chelsea Field from Last The
Last Boy Scout and Master of the Universe.

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You got Zeus the Human recor recking
Machine Tony Lister. Yeah, this

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has got like a a pretty stellar
cast. I gotta say so, I'm

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in on that one. I'm gonna
I'm gonna try and find it. I

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have to believe it's probably playing on
two be your Pluto TV, So gonna

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look for that one. But at
this point, he's in la he's kind

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of homeless, he's sleeping on people's
couches, and he is begging for the

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job to direct Nightmare on the Street. Four The dream Master now Here is

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a fun fact for you. They
start shooting the movie without a director.

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They wanted Wes Craven. Craven was
like, you know, no more,

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I'm moving on, you know.
In Craven's real problem was, you know,

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after three Freddy had kind of become
that comedic character. He wasn't terrifying,

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Like he wasn't the first one.
Now he's he's got the one liners

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and people are kind of we're cheering
for Freddy at this point, right right,

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I liked was the Dream Warriors.

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Was that's number three, Yeah,
that's three Dream Warriors. Okay, So

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so I confused. I was about
what you were so excited earlier about the

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dream Master and I was like,
really like, okay, we're going to

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talk about this, because no,
I think the Dream Warriors where they're like

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fighting back and yeah, this one, and so they they're they're they've got

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some feelers out to a couple of
people, and ultimately there are several weeks

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into production they've been filming without a
director because the studio feels like, well,

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we know what we're doing, we
know what we need to do.

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And then finally Bob say yeah,
finally, Bob She's like, you know

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what, let's let's this guy have
it now. I gotta be honest because

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I love I love horror films.
I think Nightmare up Street four The dream

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Master is kind of where that franchise
went wrong. Okay it is in my

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opinion, it's not a good movie. However, it becomes the highest grossing

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Nightmare on M Street film to date, you know, and I think,

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uh, I think it's yeah.
I think it had it going until maybe

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Freddy versus Jason, when finally there
was a Freddy Krueger movie that did more

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money. So this, this movie
makes Harlan's career, you know. After

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this it's like this kid, look
what this kid did you know with a

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you know, a part four and
nothing budget and it made all this money.

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on Elm Street for The Dreammaster.

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credit, he famously said, look,

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look, Freddy Krueger is like James
Bond. People want to see him succeed.

402
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:17.720
They want a root for him,
they want to share him on let

403
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.200
him do that. So Robert England, who had a lot of say so

404
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:23.880
on what he wanted the character to
do, Harlan's like, go for it.

405
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:30.000
So worked out well for him.
I think it worked out well for

406
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.960
us. A couple years later,
in nineteen ninety, Harlan has The Adventures

407
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:41.519
of ford Fairlane and die Hard to
releasing, like he's doing the editing weeks

408
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.640
apart on these two. Now.
I know, I know Adventures The Adventures

409
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.839
of ford Fairlane didn't make a lot
of money. We probably could have covered

410
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:52.400
that one for this up for a
Harlan episode. But have you seen it?

411
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.720
You know? Any thoughts on ford
Fairlane? No? I never appreciated

412
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:06.759
Andrew dice Clay's humor. Yeah,
yeah, you know their kind of thing.

413
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.440
So I know that they have seen
it. Uh huh, probably multiple

414
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:15.079
times. But I bowed out of
that one. But die Hard too,

415
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:22.720
as show is a banger. Diehard
two is fantastic. I mean, I

416
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:27.519
know when it first came out,
I was at an age where I was

417
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.000
old enough to go, really,
it's gonna happen again at Christmas time,

418
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.160
But I didn't care because I was
like, I believe it. I'm in,

419
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:37.759
I'm buying it. You know,
Bonnie Bonnie Badelia is back, William

420
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.759
Atherton's back, you know, bel
Johnson's back. I mean you're getting the

421
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:46.519
band back together, and then you're
giving us some amazing bad guys, you

422
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:52.599
know, with John Amos and William
Sadler. I love Diehard two, not

423
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.880
nearly, not as much as as
the original, but I feel like it

424
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:59.319
is it holds its place as a
Christmas time movie. Do you agree?

425
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:06.759
Yes, that's not for you know, hold his own in the Diehard franchise.

426
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.400
I mean, there's there's a lot
of them to choose from. Yeah,

427
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:15.839
but I think it it really stands
on its own two legs, which

428
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:20.240
is nice. I love it.
You know, I love Dennis Franz playing

429
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.440
well, he's basically playing Dennis Franz
because he's he's always that hard cop.

430
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:29.519
He's that guy gonna bust chops.
Yeah. I love Diehard too, fantastic

431
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:34.160
And this I mean for for Rennie
Harlan to get the get the job,

432
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.519
I think that's amazing because you look
at it's like, Okay, this guy's

433
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:42.119
done a couple of nothing movies.
Yeah he did. He did a horror

434
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.440
film, he did a Freddy Krueger
movie. But are we gonna give is?

435
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.519
You know, like if you're a
Fox exec, like you're gonna give

436
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.200
a potential you know that at this
point, Diehard is not a franchise,

437
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:53.640
you know, so you gotta ask
yourself, like you're gonna let this guy

438
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.759
build, you know, your franchise. And he does. He succeeds.

439
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.000
He knocks it out of the park. I would have loved to have heard

440
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:07.519
his pitch, his director vision that, like be in the meeting, like

441
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.679
why should we why should you direct
this movie? Kind of a yes,

442
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.599
yes, that would be a good
one to hear here. I think now

443
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.079
he may have knocked this one out
of the park. His next one,

444
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.960
he knocks off the cliff nineteen ninety
three Cliff Sorry, sorry for the book,

445
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:30.239
Yeah I had to go. Nineteen
ninety three's Cliffhanger is one of the

446
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:34.960
coolest action movies of the nineties.
Please tell me you agree. Oh my

447
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:39.800
gosh. I remember seeing this in
the theater and like literally hyperventilating in the

448
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:47.880
opening sequence, like that opening sequence
was so much, and then just enjoying

449
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:52.320
the ride for the rest of it. I to this day, I still

450
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:58.920
remember seeing that opening. Weekend,
I took a date and that opening scene.

451
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:06.320
The minute he miraculously catches her with
one arm, my date's hand just

452
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.280
gripped into mind. Like, you
know, she's like, she just sunk

453
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:14.519
her fingers into my forearm, and
I, with all the confidence in the

454
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:19.880
world, I remember leaning over and
whispering, it's stallone. She's fine,

455
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.519
He's not gonna drop her because she's
like breathing heavy. And then all of

456
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:29.760
a sudden, you're like, I'm
slepting, and that slow motion shot of

457
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:36.239
her slowly falling, and I just
couldn't believe it. I was I was

458
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:43.239
shocked, and she looked over at
me, she's like, really, I

459
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.880
didn't take her out again. Yeah, I didn't take her out again.

460
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:51.119
But yeah, that that's where you
know you got your money's words right there

461
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:54.719
in that opening moment, Michael Rooker, people forget or ever ever get on

462
00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:00.519
a zip line ever, No,
No, three feet off the ground and

463
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:07.519
like, ah, well, you
know, you know you gotta remember something.

464
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:12.679
Stallone. He took that project because
he was afraid of heights and he

465
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.719
wanted, no, he wanted to
he wanted to kind of force himself to

466
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.239
conquer his fear of heights. Because
you know, this is nineteen ninety three.

467
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:22.519
There's a lot of this isn't a
lot of green screen. There's still

468
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.079
like a lot of practical effects happening. Yeah, I remember them showing like

469
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:31.239
how he was really climbing with a
safety wire and then they like digitized it

470
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:37.320
out, but that was really him
climbing. Uh huh. And to his

471
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.119
credit, Renny Harlan, just to
show the cast, just to show Rooker,

472
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:45.199
just to show Stallone and all the
others that the safety equipment was in

473
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:52.000
fact safe, he put a harness
on and flung himself over the cliff just

474
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:53.000
to show, and like they weren't
ready for that. He'd just like,

475
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.360
hey, it's fine, look watch
me, and he just dives off the

476
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.519
cliff and you know, I mean
dag. I mean if that's I mean

477
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.920
credit to him that if you're gonna
really win your cast over and show them

478
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.320
like, hey, I'm leading this
project and you can you can trust me.

479
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.760
You know, Hey, if I
can do it, you can do

480
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:14.039
it. So that's what. Yeah, I love I love that Rennie Harlan

481
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:19.360
did that for Cliffhanger and U supposedly
they're working on a sequel to Cliffhanger.

482
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.760
I don't have a whole lot of
information about it just yet, but I'm

483
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.079
digging because I would love to see
that, because you know, we always

484
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:30.039
Rooker. We know him as Yondue, you know, thanks to the Marvel

485
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:34.000
movies. But we gotta we gotta
forget he was. This was this guy

486
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.079
was rowdy Burns and Days of Thunder. You know, he's in Cliffhanger with

487
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.760
Stallone. He he was. He
was a badass. So yep, absolutely,

488
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.079
So you know the eighties, you
know, obviously this is where Rennie

489
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:51.119
Harlan is kind of cutting his teeth. He's trying to earn his reputation.

490
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:55.599
The nineties is where he's exploding,
because again he opens nineteen ninety with with

491
00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:00.639
two big movies, Diehard, Two
Adventures Award fair Lane. He's that cliffhanger

492
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:07.000
and then he spectacularly crashes and burns
in nineteen ninety five. Cause this is

493
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:14.039
when Cut Through It Island comes out. It's just so rough, like one

494
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:20.920
failure can just like destroy you.
Yeah, and I gotta tell you,

495
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:22.880
like the more like I know you
did a little bit of digging into Cut

496
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:27.719
Through It Island, I did too. I almost want to do another Renny

497
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:34.400
Harlan episode like next Year and cover
this one because there are so many incredible

498
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.920
stories coming out of the out of
the making of this movie. And I

499
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.480
know we can't talk about him right
now, but I'm telling you, if

500
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.039
you if you want to know,
like why it had such a trouble production,

501
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:49.599
just go online and do a little
bit digging yourself. Or I tell

502
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.079
you like it, and I tell
you amber like, give it a chance,

503
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.840
turn on turn on a t B, watch it for free, and

504
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.000
uh, you know you might you
might be pleasantly surprised. Yeah, sometimes

505
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:07.039
those those treasures, you know,
that are just enjoyable films. You know,

506
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.199
it's not winning any Oscars, but
it's a fun couple of hours.

507
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:13.320
Yeah, listeners, if I am, if I'm off the mark, let

508
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.400
us know, you know, email
us, hit us up on social media.

509
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:19.119
Tell us what you think of Cutthroat
Island. If you haven't seen it,

510
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.239
I'm giving you the Hey, just
try it's it's free. Can't hurt

511
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:27.119
you, right, Yeah, we've
been talking about long kisca night in nineteen

512
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:34.880
ninety six, he he turns up
again with Samuel Jackson in nineteen ninety nine

513
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.719
does a movie called Deep Blue Sea? Did you see that one? I

514
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:45.519
will hear nothing bad about this movie. I love this movie. Hey,

515
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.920
leta watch it all the time.
Hey, I'm a big Tom Jayne fan.

516
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:54.039
So you're not going to have me
upset you if you say, hey,

517
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:58.599
let's watch Deep Blue Sea. It's
a fun it's a fun shark movie.

518
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:00.360
This and it came out came out
when we really needed it too,

519
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:06.280
because if you love shark attack movies, you love if you love the Jaws

520
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:09.719
franchise, you had been starving because
you know, Jaws of the Revenge came

521
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:14.800
out in eighty seven, and you
know, we're waiting all this time,

522
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.800
you know, you know, nearly
nearly, you know, more than more

523
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:22.679
than ten years for a shark movie. I was, we get, we

524
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:29.239
get genetically engineered. Oh cool,
Jay is the cook, I mean rap

525
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.960
reports. They're still in scars guards
there. It's a fun movie. I

526
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:37.039
love it. I love this movie. Yeah, I think I think it's

527
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.480
a good, good one. And
it was great. You know, it

528
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:44.880
was nice to see him bounce back
because, like you figure, yes,

529
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.000
if he does a big bomb in
ninety five, you know, Longkis Knight

530
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.440
was already he already had that like
in the bag, like he was,

531
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.159
you know, contracts are written.
It's all you can do after cut through

532
00:40:55.159 --> 00:41:01.480
an island bombs is hope that Longkis
can I and you know, even what,

533
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:07.639
even watching it this week, you
can see the Shane Black in the

534
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.320
movie. So I think any you
know, no offense to Harlan, but

535
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.840
I feel like anyone could have directed
this movie and it would have been fine.

536
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:21.440
But I don't know. Two thousands
is where he kind of, in

537
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:25.079
my opinion, he stumbles a little
bit. Two thousand and one he does

538
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:30.199
the uh the stallone, he's back
with stallone. He does that the car

539
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:36.599
movie Driven. Did you see that
one? Nope, you're not missing anything.

540
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:40.320
I really feel like because there's a
lot of his movies that I forgot

541
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:46.400
were his yeah, you know,
until like looking for this episode, kind

542
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:50.119
of looking through his filmography, and
I was like, oh, yeah,

543
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:54.880
he did do that one, you
know, after Cutthroat Island. It was

544
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.880
kind of like his name is mud, Like, if his name's attached to

545
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:05.320
something, I'm probably not gonna watch
it. A movie I can't have known

546
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.719
that he made deeply see because I
probably wouldn't have watched it to begin with.

547
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.559
Oh good thing, you weren't checking
the credits and but no. Driven.

548
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.760
It's like when you tell me,
like, hey, we're gonna do

549
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:22.760
an action movie in the world of
car Racing, starring Sylvester Sloan and Burt

550
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:27.760
Reynolds. That's a no brainer,
like like here's a here's a blank check,

551
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.079
take all the money you need because
it'll make a billion dollars. And

552
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:36.800
here's a supermodel Estella Warren. You
know everyone knows her face. Yep,

553
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.920
do it should it should work,
but it it does not work. It's

554
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.639
not a great movie in my estimation. You know, I don't know.

555
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.800
I don't know what happened there.
It's got like a four point six on

556
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:54.119
IMDb if that tells you anything.
Bag Yeah. Uh. Two thousand and

557
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:58.920
four, he does Exorcists the Beginning, which was I want to say,

558
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:02.599
the first prequel that they tried in
that uh, that franchise. I have

559
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.119
not watched this one, and I've
heard that it's truly good. Then you've

560
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:12.599
heard this one's good with Stelling scars
Guard. Yeah, mostly because of Stelling

561
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:17.800
Scarsgard. Well, okay, so
he plays the the Father. Yeah,

562
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:23.320
it's like you know, so it's
like it's like his first The movie is

563
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:29.639
all about his first encounter with Pozozu, the demon that you know, went

564
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:34.800
after the you know, Reagan.
I don't know, Maybe maybe I need

565
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:37.320
to give it. The brad Cos
is famous for giving movies a second chance

566
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.519
Sunday, you know, like it's
been it's been a decade. Maybe next

567
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:46.199
maybe next Halloween. I'll dig into
it because, uh, the exstious movie

568
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.519
that came out, Believer. I
don't know if you went and saw that

569
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.000
at the theater that that would Actually
it was pretty good. I thumbs up

570
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.800
on that. It's actually it's on
Peacock right now. Not to turn this

571
00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:00.639
into a horror horror not really in
a horror kind of place Christmas, but

572
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.360
well, you know, if you're
having a bad day and you just don't

573
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:08.440
want to you don't want to follow
a lot with everybody else. Uh Exorcist.

574
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:13.719
Believer is now streaming on Peacock.
Hed In two thousand and six,

575
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:21.280
he does another forgettable film, The
Covenant. Just Y, I shouldn't look

576
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.400
it. I mean I I just
watched the trailer and that was enough for

577
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:30.920
me to go nope, you know, but I don't know now I'm looking

578
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:37.800
at this. A young Sebastian Stan
was one of the main main main roles.

579
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:44.079
Maybe I was wrong. Taylorish from
uh fright night Lights, Yeah,

580
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:50.320
tailor Tish, Uh, but you
know, four young men with a supernatural

581
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:54.679
legacy are forced to battle a power
that was thought long died out, and

582
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.880
meanwhile, jealousy and suspicion threatens to
tear them apart. I mean, watching

583
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:04.039
the trailer, it just felt like
a really shitty CW TV show. Here's

584
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.400
like four or five really good looking
guys who have powers, and but they

585
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.760
also have issues. I don't know. I do know this though. Two

586
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.559
thousand and seven, he does a
movie called The clean It's called Cleaner.

587
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:22.079
This is a very underrated. You
did not see this at the theater,

588
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:28.119
and you should see this Cleaner.
It's uh, it's Samuel Jackson, Ed

589
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:32.159
Harris, even Mendez and uh he
kind of not. I don't want to

590
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:37.440
give away the movie, so I'll
be careful here, but basically, Samuel

591
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:43.519
Jackson's character is the guy you call
when there's been like a murder, you

592
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:47.039
know, and like there's a mess
the crime scene. He's the guy that

593
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:53.519
comes into clean things up, you
know. Okay, yeah, yeah,

594
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:58.119
I'll say no more. But it
is such a great movie. I'm gonna

595
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.719
give a little shout out to my
mom. Robert Forrester, your buddy Bobby,

596
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:07.559
isn't it She met him once.
Did she their besties? Yeah,

597
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.519
one of his one of his last
movies. He's incredible, So so yeah,

598
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.840
definitely if you if you like Forrester, then you know you gotta see

599
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.039
this one. I mean I'm tragued. Yeah, I think you'll like it.

600
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.159
I think our listeners would like it
too if they if they give it

601
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.840
a shot. Samuel Jackson fantastic in
it. I mean it's Sam Jackson.

602
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:31.159
Come on, Sam Jackson. Yeah. So two thousand and nine, this

603
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:36.400
is where you know now, it's
like he's feel I feel like he's struggling.

604
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.280
He does a movie called Twelve Rounds
with John Cena. I'm gonna be

605
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:46.880
honest, you would think it is
an absolute movies for guys who like movies

606
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:50.440
kind of. It's got a situation. Well, like I'm cracking up,

607
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.920
like Johnston is your headliner, Like
I feel like I know what this movie

608
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:57.920
is going to be. Well,
he's a detective and his girlfriend's been kidnapped.

609
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:00.920
Sure, and you know he's gotta, he's gotta, he's got.

610
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:07.920
It's amber. He has to complete
twelve challenges in order to get her safe

611
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.559
release. Oh good lord. And
this is this is Sena. This is

612
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.400
Sena. You guys, remember this
is this two thousand and nine. This

613
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:21.039
is this is sena hot off his
WWE career and making the jump to movies,

614
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:22.760
and he actually he actually does a
good job in it, you know,

615
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:27.599
because like as we see, like
Seena's everywhere now in Hollywood and you

616
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.079
know, people like John Cena.
Yeah, so it's it's fun fun.

617
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:36.000
I'm not gonna lie. I I
bought it never seeing it. It was

618
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.519
like, here's a Blu ray for
five dollars at Target, and I was

619
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:44.239
like, I gotta I gotta try, I gotta try. I I give

620
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:45.639
a thumbs up to twelve rounds.
I'm gonna say it. You know,

621
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:52.320
it's like a candy bar. Yeah. So, over the next couple of

622
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:58.039
years he does a couple of TV
series, but twenty thirteen he does this

623
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:05.440
super creepy movie called Devil's Any chance
you saw that one. I heard about

624
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:15.920
it because someone that I follow on
social media was talking about this I don't

625
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:22.639
know how to pronounce it, diet
love the Doubt Love past incident, which

626
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:23.440
I had never heard of. So
then, of course, you know,

627
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:29.360
I'm like lost in this deep dive
on the internet about the story that I

628
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:36.000
had never heard of. So now
seeing that it looks like a very intriguing,

629
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:42.400
uh creepy movie, super creepy.
This is where Okay, he kinda

630
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:45.119
he kind of uh says, all
right, I'm gonna go back home.

631
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:49.920
I'm going to create a movie.
No one that's in it is someone you've

632
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:54.199
seen so and it's just it's a
scary movie and you know, and it

633
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:58.760
intrigues you. It's like, Okay, I want to know about this this

634
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.280
incident that happened there well, and
no one knows what happened, so exactly

635
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:07.000
this could be really what happened you
don't know. Yeah, I would say

636
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.679
if you're a fan of stuff like
the Blair Witch Project, you know where

637
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:15.880
it's like, hey, we're gonna
go we're gonna we're gonna research what happened,

638
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.480
what really happened, and we're gonna
make a documentary about it, or

639
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.920
you know that, it's kind of
in that same vein and I really love

640
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:29.199
that. Yeah, I'll be honest. So after this one, not impressed.

641
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:35.960
I want to say this though,
like they're not any of them to

642
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.079
write home about. But like the
man keeps working. Oh he's consistent.

643
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.920
If anything else is hired, you
know. Yeah, his last like I

644
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.800
think his last big Hollywood movie is
twenty fourteen with the Legend of Hercules.

645
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.559
I think it's Kellen Lutz that's in
that one hot off the Twilight movie.

646
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:58.760
So oh yeah. But after that
twenty sixteen, Skip Trace twenty eighteen,

647
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.400
Legend of Ancient Sword twenty nineteen,
Bodies at Rest twenty twenty one, The

648
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:06.360
Misfits twenty twenty one, Class Reunion
three. These are all movies like he's

649
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.840
making back home. So he is
making money, He's still doing what he

650
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:17.079
does, and he is about to
make a big splash again. Oh yes,

651
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:22.039
what's he got coming up? Well, amazingly enough. Have you ever

652
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:27.719
seen a horror film called The Strangers
that came out years ago? Yes?

653
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:31.559
That movie. I cannot even ever
watch that movie again. One of the

654
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:37.599
scariest movies I've seen in a long
time, Absolutely nightmare inducing. So check

655
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:44.000
this out. It's not that he's
doing a remake of The Strangers. He's

656
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.880
doing a remake of The Strangers as
a trilogy. He's already finished the first

657
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:52.880
one, The Strangers, Chapter one. He is in I want to say,

658
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.880
he's in post production on Chapter two, and in pre production on Chapter

659
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:59.639
three, and they're supposed to come
out. He's going to start releasing them

660
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:01.920
in twenty twenty four. And if
you're wondering if he's the right guy for

661
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:07.000
the job, here is what he
has to say about his work on these

662
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.519
films. Quote. My mother instilled
the love of movies in me through the

663
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:15.400
world of Hitchcock and other masters of
suspense and horror. My breakthrough to Hollywood

664
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:20.840
happened with the success of A Nightmare
on Street four. It is only fitting

665
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:24.400
that I get to return to my
favorite genre with the incredibly well written trilogy

666
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:30.159
of The Strangers. The characters and
the storyline are all grounded in reality and

667
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:36.679
offer me an endless tapestry of haunting
visuals and bringing these movies alive. Just

668
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.239
based on that, I'm believing him. I'm ready for it. My heart

669
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:43.880
can't take it. I don't know. I might have to have a couple

670
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:46.599
of cocktails before I even attempt to
turn it on. In the meantime,

671
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:51.199
Amber, do you recommend seeing The
Long Kiss of Night? I do.

672
00:51:51.480 --> 00:52:00.920
I think that people's expectations are probably, you know, going to be blown

673
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:04.880
out of the water with this.
I think you, if you're willing to

674
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:10.039
give it a shot. You're absolutely
gonna have a really good time. I

675
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:15.480
agree. It is currently streaming free
on Pluto TV. It can be rented

676
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.599
on Amazon. If you want a
high deaf version, the Blu ray is

677
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:22.440
available, which is what I recommend, because you should definitely see this one.

678
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:30.119
It's a fun one if you want
some actual missiles in your missile toe.

679
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:34.880
I knew you would enjoy this one. I knew you'd have some great

680
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.559
stuff to say about this one,
So as always, thank you for joining

681
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:42.719
us. Oh it was my pleasure, and I have to say I'm gonna

682
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:46.880
add a little layer of trivia for
you as a former figure skater. Okay,

683
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:52.760
I am so disappointed that we didn't
get the scene of Geena Davis doing

684
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:58.679
a double axle flip and then shooting
the guy. Yeah, I just got

685
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.480
her speed skate and then shooting the
guy. I mean, you got to

686
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:08.360
give her credit because I know she
did the majority of her stunts on Cutthroat

687
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:13.800
Island, which which scares me for
her. When you watch the movie,

688
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:15.719
and you'll you'll know what I'm saying. But wow, I'm even Martin treated

689
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:19.360
to watch it now. I appreciate
that she gave it a shot. Though,

690
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.719
like my understanding is that she tried. They had like a rig on

691
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:27.239
her, like they kept doing it. It was like below zero outside when

692
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:31.280
they're trying to film it. So
she's a trooper, you know, yep.

693
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:37.199
But I'm just you know, it's
a hard movie. Axel in the

694
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:44.639
first place and then doing a flip
and then shooting a gun accurately. Oh

695
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:50.800
well, listeners, listeners as a
as we thank you for joining us.

696
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:55.320
Uh, we would love to hear
your thoughts on Shane Black action movies at

697
00:53:55.360 --> 00:54:02.159
Christmas time and uh double axle flip
and uh and how difficult they are.

698
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.599
Hit us up www dot a film
by podcast dot com or hit us up

699
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:13.400
on social media. Uh, Amber, I hope you have a wonderful holiday

700
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.760
and uh can't wait to talk to
you in twenty twenty four. Thank you

701
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:21.199
you have a good holiday as well. We'll catch you guys next time.

702
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:40.199
Friend time, baby hand us knows
morning on crismas time, pretty baby hand

703
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:49.360
us, no honors? Will you
be are real good ever