July 6, 2025

Rob Bowman - Reign of Fire

Rob Bowman - Reign of Fire
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Season 6A Film By...

On this episode, Jeff, Amber, and Garret aren't talking about training dragons; they're talking about slaying them! Post-apocolyptic communal living, your life expectancy when jumping out of helicopters, and effective leadership are discussed with a look at Rob Bowman's Reign of Fire!

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A little fun question for you. And I'm not asking

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for the best. Look at you, Amber asking, I'm asking

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for favorite, So bearing in mind, I'm asking favorites, not best,

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I'm curious, what what are your favorite movie dragons or

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dragon themed movie? Amber? We already know your answer, so let's.

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Just get it out of the r I mean, and

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it's fortunate because my favorite is the best, so I

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get to be right on both friends. The only correct

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answer is Ferma Thrax pejorative from Dragonslayer.

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Dragon We knew. I knew Dragonslayer. We talked about that

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on the summer rental episode, you know, and you've talked

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you You got the chance to talk about Dragonslayer a

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little more in depth over on docum based seventy seven.

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Yes, we did a whole episode on the Gloriousness all right.

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We knew if anyone's been listening to the show that

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you knew. Amber's answer was gonna be Dragon Slayer. But Garrett,

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favorite movie dragon or dragon themed movie?

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What do you got?

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Well, I'm definitely going to have to go with the

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subject at hand right now, with a rain of fire.

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I remember seeing this film as a child in theaters

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with my uncle he'd gotten some free tickets from Time

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Warner Cable to go see this movie, and he took

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me and all my brothers. So, you know, that movie

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just holds a place in my heart. I've got to

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tell you.

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I'm glad to hear that. I am definitely glad to

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hear that. I'm gonna throw a curb watch you guys,

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because it's technically I'm gonna Break'm gonna I'm gonna pull

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on Amber Lewis here, I'm gonna break a rule technically

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a movie. But in nineteen eight three there was this

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very kick ass animated series called Dungeons and Dragons, which

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has gotten a little bit of nostalgic popularity over the

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past couple of years. But I remember when I was

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a little kid watching that in Tiamatt the dragon, the

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five headed dragon, like the Goddess Dragon, that thing. You know,

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she was scary. I mean it was animated, it was

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a cartoon, but she was kind of a little scary.

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I don't know, tam Matt is my pick. So but Garrett,

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I like that you mentioned Rain of Fire, So let's

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talk about some dragons. Let's talk about a film by

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Rob Bowman. His underrated post apocalyptic dark fantasy film Reign

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of Fire. Hello and welcome back.

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I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis, and I'm Garrett Gibson.

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And this is a film by podcast A little a

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little bit of a summer break there. Uh, we all

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got a couple of weeks off. I hope we're all rested.

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I hope we're all ready to, uh to jump back

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into the swing of things.

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Uh.

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I'll tell you who didn't uh take a little summer break.

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Our buddies, uh, Dave and Scott and Wayne recently over

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on our Patreon, they they just dropped out that, uh,

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that Jaws episode for a film at.

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Film so much fun.

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Man. I was absolutely floored, because, let's be honest, if

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you google Jaws podcast, you're gonna get a phone book

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this year.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws. We knew that

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was going to happen. And kudos to those guys because

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they found a way to not only have a very

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passionate conversation, but they were talking about things that I

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wasn't even paying attention. I've seen draws like three hundred times,

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and some of it like they're insightful commentary like some

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of the things that are bringing up I could not believe.

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I was like, WHOA, I never I never paid attention

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to that.

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So when we got Wayne doing the soundtrack as always.

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I told Wayne, Wayne, I know you. I know you're

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John Williams fan. I know you're like the alter He's

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seen John Williams in concert several times. I knew that

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was gonna happen.

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I haven't.

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I told Wayne. I said, you know, Wayne, if you

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want to talk a little bit about John Walliams, go

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for it. He was like, he didn't say, he just smiled.

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I said, I hear it's gonna happen. But uh, listeners,

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I gotta tell you, this is definitely the Jaws podcast

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you want to listen to. Yes, it's on our Patreon,

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but guess what to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of Bruce

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the Shark. It's a free episode. So even if you're

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not ready, you can still head to our patreon. Go

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to www dot patreon dot com slash a film by

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Podcast sign up for the free membership. All you need

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is an email address and then you can listen to

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not only that episode, there's we actually we do a

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couple free free ones every now and then, don't we

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amber we do. Yeah, you gotta have you gotta have

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a little. Yeah. I liked it. I think about like

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when we're kids growing up, Like if you didn't have

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HBO or Movie Channel, there was like there's free weekends

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sometimes they do.

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Yes.

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I didn't care what was happening outside in the in

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the the world that weekend. I was like, nope, I'm

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staying in you know, Yeah, you.

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Can Watchist for the tenth time.

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Yeah, Oh my goodness.

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So let's talk a little bit about Rob Bowman. Typically

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we do uh, you know, like three three facts, a

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little bit of trivia to a quote. I might have

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more than one quote. I might have more to say

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about Rob Bowman, but I wanna you know, this is

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this guy like I'm fascinated by by the limited amount

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I found, I'm fascinated so little a little bit about Rob.

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His father, Chuck Bowman, is a prolific television director, having

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worked on classics like The Incredible Hulk, The A Team Mcguyver,

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Murder She Wrote, and the Greatest American Hero, just to

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name a few. As a boy, he would go to

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the sets with his dad and act as an assistant crewmember. Now,

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I just think about that for a second. There's there's that,

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you know, bring your daughter to work day, bring your

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kid to work day. You know, it's always fun when

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you're a little kid to go where mom and dad worked.

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But could you'd you going to film sets and like

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he's a kid and there's there's there's.

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Mister t you're hanging out with the A team.

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You're hanging out I'm working on the crew with the

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A team. Yeah. I think that's awesome.

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I mean rightous.

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Yeah. When he was old enough, he moved to Los

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Angeles and got a job at Steven Canal Productions, starting

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off in the mail room. Now, if if you are

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a fan of eighty eighties television and you know some

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of those those television shows that his dad worked on,

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you know who Steven Canal is. Stephen J. Canal we

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as as we'd call him. So he's going straight to

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the source. I got a quote for you on setting

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yourself apart from the competition. Rob said quote, I learned

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early on that you be successful as a director, you

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had to have your own signature. Otherwise why hire one

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person over another. So you got to think he's he's

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in the mailroom. But he's also going to film school

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and he's studying. He's got access to four hundred hours

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of television and he's watching this stuff, just soaking it

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up to see, like what this director does, what that

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director does. You know. He's mentioned like, you know, we

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all have the same tools, but it's fascinating to him

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to see how this guy uses the same tool as

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this guy and then different product comes out. So I

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love I love his attitude about it. He also back

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to his dad, you know, his dad. They have a

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lot of conversations. He teaches him basically that a good

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film crew becomes invisible when the movie's actually made. And

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he had to say this about that quote. What remains

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are the emotions and the drama of the story and

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the characters. What remains is the magic. And that's I

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love that because the behind the scenes crew, the film crew,

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they're the unsung heroes right there. The guy, the assistant

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ad and the the best boy, and the grips and

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all these guys, all these women, men and women, they're

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all doing this work and if they're doing their job

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the right way, you'll never know that they existed.

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Right, Yeah, absolutely right, So.

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Let's talk a little bit about a little a little

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bit more about Bowman if you'll indulge me. So he worked.

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He worked at Canal Productions for two years before he

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leaves to make his way as a director. Amber. He

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lands a gig directing an episode of Star Trek the

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Next Generation in its very first season.

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Like talking about just laying it on your feet.

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Now, listen, this is what is amazing. Though he shows

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up two weeks early to study the sets and prep

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for his episode. He does the one where No Man

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Has Gone Before, which I know Wayne and Dave and

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Scott have talked about. Yeah, I think they talked about

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it in the starter treks on Phaser set the stun

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our Star Trek pod that happens on Wednesdays. Star Trek

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creator Gene Roddenberry is so impressed with the dailies and

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Bowman's work ethic he decides to make an appearance to

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publicly praise Bowman in front of the cast and the

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crew and Amber, I think you probably know this, but

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he ends up directing another five episodes that season. He's

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only twenty seven years.

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Old and he's so good. Like, where No Man Has

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Gone Before is a great episode.

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It's it's and handled episod.

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So well, like it could have gone so easily wrong

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because you've got Riker and Bricard kind of being jerks

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through part of it. Yeah, it could really turn a

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fan off, but he handled it really well.

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Garrett. At the age of twenty seven, I know I

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was downtown in bars and clubs and getting up to

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no good. We did you have the Rob Bowman work

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ethic or were you, you know, being a typical twenty

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seven year old. Because I know what I was doing.

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I've got to tell you I was not in there

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directing heavy hitting episodes of a hit television series. Now,

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I was out at the bar, hitting the drinks as

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much as it could. That's a yeah, that's yeah, that's

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my extent of twenty seven.

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Yeah. But here's the thing. After seeing a commercial for

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the pilot episode of The X Files, he talks too

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his agents says, hey, you know what, I think I

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want to direct that series. So he does the episode

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gender Bender, and X Files creator Chris Carter is also

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so impressed with him he invites him back to direct

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more episodes. He ends up directing another thirty two episodes

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of the series and eventually is made a producer.

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So and he directed one of the best episodes.

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Ever, which is give it to us.

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Jose Chung's from Out o Space.

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Oh my gosh, he did. He did out the jose

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Chung episode. That awesome. I love that one. That is

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so good. I listen. I know we don't typically dip

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this deep into the directors anymore. I know we in

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the first couple of seasons, don't. We'd give you like

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a whole book report, and we kind of got away

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from that. But I bring this up because I know

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later we're going to talk about his fomography. The man

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it's only done four films, but he has done such

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an impressive job in the world of television directing that

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I wanted to kind of point out his origin story

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and name some of his heavy hitters. So Amber, enough

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about that. We got to talk about dragons, We got

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to talk about Rain of Fire. And I know you

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know this is this is truly an underrated film. You know,

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it came out I think it finished third now to

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be fair, it went up against the Road to Perdition

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and Men in Black two, So you're in good company.

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Eighty million on a budget of sixty million, didn't breathe

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fire in the theaters as it were. But for those

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that haven't seen this, maybe they haven't seen it in

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a while. What can you tell us about rain of fire?

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So we're in England in the year twenty twenty twelve

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years after a London underground tunneling project inadvertently awakened dragons

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from centuries of slumber, and the creatures have subsequently replaced

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humans as the dominant species on Earth, with the fate

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of mankind at stake. To surviving parties led by Quinn

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Abercrombie and Denton van Zan find that they must work

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together to hunt down and destroy the beasts in a

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desperate attempt to take back the world.

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I think Christian Bale's Exposition Dump at the beginning that

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that voiceover Amber, you and I we've talked about this.

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We're not huge fans of the Exposition Dump.

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But but him, anybody else here Morpheus in this opening,

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I mean, who scorches the sky?

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Knowledge is the only weapon we have left. I'm sorry,

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but like like kind of seeing like the you know

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basically that you know the dragons are reawoken in two

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thousand and two, and over the next eighteen years they

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have made a big comeback. They've scorched the earth. We

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found out they're the real reason the dinosaurs got their

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asses kicked.

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And I did like that detail.

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That was that's kind of cool, right yeah.

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But I also this is like two years before Batman begins,

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and Christian Bale using his own accent is like he

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could have done the Alfred Pennyworth origin story.

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Oh gosha. Well it's yeah, and it's shocking too, because

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you know, I I originally, obviously I remember him from

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what was this Bilberg movie did when he's a little kid,

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Empire of the Son. Yeah, he's in that, but you

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kind of forget, you know, he's a kid. So when

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he shows up as a as an adult, he's Patrick

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Bateman in American Psycho and.

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Watching Newsi's and sings.

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No, I wasn't. I was.

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You weren't swooning over the page.

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Fourteen, Amber, I was not swooning over tee uh. But

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to your point, this exposition, I love, you know the

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whole You have to understand our past because you decide

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our future. Only one species is getting out alive. He's

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it's kind of it's not Yeah, it's an exposition due,

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but it's almost like it's it's like a living journal

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that he's passing on to the next generation. I absolutely

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love how this beginning, how this movie begins, Uh, you

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know with the young Bail going down. You know, he's

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going to bring your kid to work day, he's going

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to go see mom and the ton of l.

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around with no hard hat getting shut every Hey there

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and see what's going on.

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They things are different in the UK. You know, you

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watch yourself because we've actually we've got a pretty solid

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uh listening base in the in the UK, So.

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I never forgot that it was a long time ago. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's funny that in two thousand and two they're

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looking at the year twenty twenty as this the future.

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Ye're so far in the future and like things are

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going to be bad. Man, if only they knew they weren't.

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For they weren't. Oh we didn't have dragons, but these

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things are things we got there for a while.

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Hold Castle for sure.

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Uh, I gotta be honest. Uh, And I don't want

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to jump to casting just yet. But but Bail is

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showing why he becomes Batman A couple of years later, dude,

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I mean he's jacked that shot of his lap scaret,

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like what he's he does not skip chess to back day.

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Oh no, not at all.

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The first scene that we see adult Christian Bale and

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he's down there mining, he is absolutely shredded.

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And then we get a scene a.

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Little further in where him and van Zan go back

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and forth at each other a bit and it's like, yeah, yeah,

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now I see why you're Batman now.

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But you know, Garrett, you mentioned at the cold Open,

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you mentioned that, hey, this is your favorite movie when

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it comes to dragon movies.

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Absolutely.

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And here's the thing about Rain of Fire. Sometimes a

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movie comes out that is really really damn good. You

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see it, you love it, but because it doesn't get

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a lot of buzz around it, you're not talking with

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your friends about it, it kind of disappears, you know,

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it kind of gets kind of gets lost for a

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little bit. This DVD was sitting on my shelf. It's

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been sitting on my shelf since it came out on DVD,

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and I've watched a himful of times because I absolutely

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love it. But it's one of those like you kind

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of forget how many I'm so glad we did it,

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you know, and I don't you know, I know I had.

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We'll get to this later, you know, when we're talking

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about Bowman's filmography, but there was a movie I was like, oh,

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I want to talk about this movie. Oh hey, look,

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Rob Bowman did Rain of Fire. You know what, maybe

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I want to do Rain of Fire. And then I

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don't know, a couple of years ago, dragons just got

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cool again, you know, Game of Thrones and Mother of

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Dragons and How to Train Your Dragons and you know,

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more hobbit movies. I was like, you know what, we're

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doing Rain of Fire. So I'm glad you guys are

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with me on this one. Let's take a quick break,

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and when we get back, we're going to talk about

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a couple a couple people in this cast. Welcome back.

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We are discussing Rob Bowman's two thousand and two dark

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fantasy Rain of Fire. So Christian Bale playing Quinn Abercrombie,

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we were talking before the break. We were talking about

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his physique. He is definitely pretty jacked in this film.

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You know that that pickaxe workout, Garrett is something we

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might have to we might want to google, might want

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to work put add that into our our repertoire. But

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here's the thing. His initial plan was for Quinn to

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look emaciated and frail because there's a commun the community

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has a limited food supply. You know, they're starving at

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certain points. So Bail being the guy, you know, and

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if you guys have seen the Machinists, yes, if you okay,

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we're gonna cover that at some point. We have to,

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because it's incredible.

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I think Bood dropped down to what one hundred and

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thirty five pounds for that role or something.

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Yeh one hundred and thirty five, hundred and twenty five. Yeah,

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he's near death in that movie. I don't know how

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he did that. Well, I know how he did it.

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He he lived off one apple and cigarettes for like

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what what it was like three months maybe yep. Yeah,

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he did that right before Batman again, so he he

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had like one hundred pounds swing in like six months.

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So definitely wrecking your bi But he thought, hey, I'll

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you know, I'll look frail and weak because we're starving.

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And that plan goes out the window when Matthew McConaughey

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walks in during pre production. He's been hitting the weights

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because this you know, Matthew McConaughey amber, he's he's kind

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of the silly heart throbby guy. You know, he's doing

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the rob comms. He's a normal looking guy. But Detton

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van Zann is not normal. He is super soldier. And

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Bail's like, okay, I'm heading to the gym. It's you know,

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because they have that fight scene that he knows that's

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in the script. Well, now that Matthew McConaughey looks like,

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you know.

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It's interesting because they're two very different physiques. Like McConaughey

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is very lean, yeah, and very long sculpted almost answer

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like muscles, and Bail just got like bulked out like crazy.

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Well, and I think a lot of it comes down

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to the costuming too, because Bail he's got a lot

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of these baggy sweaters he's wearing in the movie, so

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he looks a little bit smaller. And meanwhile, McConaughey, with

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his shaved head looking like a bad ass, has a

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sleeveless maybe two tight leather bomber jacket is his go

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to Garrett. I text you the other day, I's like,

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I got to have a sleeveless bomber jacket. Where can

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I get one?

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I think you're at cool points got by ten as

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soon as you put that bad boy on.

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Jeff.

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I'm yeah, I've got the shaved head and I've got

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the tattoos. All I need to do, and I smoked cigar.

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So if I can just get the sleeveless bomber jacket,

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I'm I'm one step closer, I think. But but yeah,

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I mean he looks twice he like throughout the movie,

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he really looks twice Baale size, and I think that

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comes down the costume until they get in the fight,

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you know, and then you kind of remember, oh wait,

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put a pick axe in Christian Bale's hand down the

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tunnels and he's he's the dark Knight. So, uh, Amber,

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tell me about you mentioned the accents. It's it's kind

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of nice to hear the accent Bail's performance as the

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leader of this community. What do you think?

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I love the two sides of his character. Right after

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you see him, you know, digging away working at this tunnel,

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he has a chat with someone and he walks past

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these guys taking a break and he just gives them

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a look and they all just jump up, like oh God,

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and immediately go back to work. He doesn't have to

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say anything, he doesn't growl, he doesn't look very threatening,

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but it's clear that like, this is serious and we

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don't have time to be just sitting around. So you

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have that side of him, and then you have I'm

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jumping ahead to my favorite scene with him and Gerard

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Butler and putting the kids to bed and telling him

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a bedtime story. That's like the greatest scene in the movie.

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And so you have like total marshmallow on one hand,

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and then he's willing to push people to you know,

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protect the community.

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On the other he's he's a he's a solid leader.

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This is the guy you want in the in the Apocalypse.

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You want you want Quinn making decisions. And he's humble too,

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because throughout it he's he's not trying to be the boss.

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He never himself that he's the boss. Someone always puts

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him forward as the boss.

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Yeah, even when even when someone's trying to get you know,

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pick pick food early, you know, off off off cycle,

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and he you know, it's a community, it's not a prison.

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You know, He's like, hey, you know, you gotta let

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the seeds germanate. We all got to pitch in, We

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all got to do the right, what's right. Otherwise there's

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no seeds, there's no there's no food next season, no harvest.

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So he's smart, he's he's one of these guys where

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it's like whatever he was doing well, I mean, think

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about he's a kid. He's like twelve when the Dragon's awakened,

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so this is the only life he knows. I love

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I love the fact we don't get Quinn's backstory, but

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I love the idea that this kid kind kind of

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was like a John Connor growing up, knowing that he

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was going to have to this was the way of life, right, Garrett.

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Absolutely, It's one of those things where you could honestly

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make a mini series out of what happens over that

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eighteen year span of time, because it would be such

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a Terminator John Connor esque post apocalyptic world where he

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is trying to build a brighter future for not himself,

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let's say the next generation, because he knows too much

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is already lost on him and the elders, which is

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why he tries so hard in that point in time

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to actually protect the young children and try and kind

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of stave off starvation and everything along those lines. But

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I feel like you hit the nail right on the head.

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I think those eighteen years we would have got something

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truly spectacular, and maybe somewhere down the road we'll get something.

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But also like it just being up in there and

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Ed just delivering the final product to us and us

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seeing what a great leader he did become.

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Amber HBO Max. Actually I should just call it HBO.

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Wait is HBO Max again or is it?

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I think we're back to HBO Max.

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It is, okay, so the world has you know, we've

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course corrected. We're back to what makes the world. But

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the world's moved on or we've gone back to what

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works Amber HBO Max loves their Dragon pressed eage television.

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You love that with that kid from Percy Jackson on

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Disney Over on Disney Plus, Like are you ready to

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watch like a mini series a limited series on on

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Quinn Abercrombie learning to fight dragons and not fighting Well

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he doesn't really fight him, He's just he's just trying

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to teach you how to kind of avoid him.

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Well I do, here's a work. Like. The one thing

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that I like about this movie is it's only ninety minutes,

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so like you're in your out, tell the story and

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move on with your life. But I do feel like

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it is to the detriment of the story a little bit,

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because I would like to know, we need a little

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more world building. And you don't really know these people

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that well, Like, you immediately love Christian Bale, you know,

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he's your hero, and Gerard Butler is playing like one

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of the only likable characters he's ever played, So that's fun.

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WHOA.

468
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But like everybody else, like you don't know who these

469
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:25.720
people are. They're little kids, so you care. But I

470
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:27.440
would like to know more about them. I'd like to

471
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.279
know more about the world that they're living in.

472
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:34.359
Anyone that was half listening up until this moment just

473
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.279
went on full alert with that Gerard Butler comic. We're gonna,

474
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.599
We're gonna, I'm gonna put We're gonna, guys, let's just

475
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:43.559
let's let's get I got him, I got him on

476
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.720
the list here. Let's let's let's hold hold on to

477
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:49.960
that one. Let's talk about someone, you know, we talk

478
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:52.759
about bail as a protector, Let's talk about a different

479
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:58.599
kind of protector. Matthew McConaughey playing Denton Van zand I

480
00:26:58.599 --> 00:26:59.799
have a I have a thought on this. I want

481
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:01.920
to hear what you guys think. So on the day

482
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:06.119
of his arrival, cast members meet with the assistant director,

483
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.519
who tells them, under no circumstances are you to address

484
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:17.519
Matthew McConaughey as Matthew or mister McConaughey, whether you're on

485
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:21.039
set or you're in town having a drink at the pub,

486
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.599
no matter what, whenever you see him, if you are

487
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.440
going to interact with him, you can only call him

488
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:32.279
by his character name. This method acting stuff.

489
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.799
I mean, you are not Daniel Day Lewis. There's no

490
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:40.160
way I would have gotten fired off that movie in

491
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:43.240
five minutes because I'm like, there's no way I'm calling

492
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:45.039
Matthew McConaughey by his character name. Now.

493
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:49.160
Has there ever been a situation where you hear one

494
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:53.160
of these stories about actors going method and you're like, oh, yeah,

495
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.319
I totally I get it, and I like it, Like.

496
00:27:55.880 --> 00:28:00.200
Only only Daniel la Lewis is the acceptable answer in

497
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.640
this situation. No one else. Everybody else is just a

498
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:05.119
pretentious asshole when they do it.

499
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.759
I think I think of like Jared Leto playing the

500
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.240
Joker and being like a psycho, you know.

501
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:11.400
Yeah, that's disgusting.

502
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.559
I've got to agree with Amber as well on this one,

503
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.240
just because of Jim Carrey and Man in the Moon.

504
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:21.400
I mean, he was a complete asshole during that entire.

505
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:22.160
That's another one.

506
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:23.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

507
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.640
I mean if I guess if it made his character

508
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:30.079
no as good as you.

509
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:34.279
Know, Gil what he's doing a hab whatever, he's crazy,

510
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:35.880
shut up.

511
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:42.160
He's the leader of the Kentucky Irregulars, which I love

512
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:44.440
that they're called irregulars because I was like, at first,

513
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:48.480
I was like, why why are the Kentucky Irregulars. It

514
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.039
turns out, you know, and our UK listeners know this

515
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.519
back in the day, several hundred years ago. Uh, Kentucky

516
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:01.680
was known as as the good hunting area in the

517
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:06.519
New Land the Americas, the Americas as it were. And

518
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:10.640
the term irregular is kind of their word for like

519
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:15.880
militia or not the regular army, you know. I clearly

520
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.160
like they're the Kentucky National Guard, but they don't know

521
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.759
they wouldn't have a National Guard there, so they they're

522
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.720
a regular, a regular soldier. So I love that they're

523
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:27.519
the Kentucky Regulars. I think that's a cool, cool, little

524
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.559
nod and they're hunters. They're you know, they're they're dragon hunters.

525
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.319
That so his crew. I absolutely love it. I love

526
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:37.720
when they come rolling in and Garrett, I think you

527
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:40.319
and I talked about this once before, uh not on

528
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:44.039
an episode, but sometimes like you have a you have

529
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:46.319
a pretty cool quote, or you have a go to quote,

530
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.599
and over time you just assume that it yours and

531
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:51.440
people call you out and they're like, oh man, that's

532
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.319
I like, that's a cool that's a cool phrase. For

533
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.920
twenty years, I've been saying, we look, we can do

534
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.440
it easy, or we can do it real easy. And

535
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:02.759
I never until watching this, I was like, holy shit,

536
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:09.039
I'm that's man's that's where. Yeah, I stole it stolen

537
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:14.079
from McConaughey. Fun fact, he did not shave his head

538
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:20.160
for this movie. Uh he had already shaved his head, like.

539
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:21.240
He wasn't really bald.

540
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.359
And I'm like, yeah, there's a there's a book. There's

541
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.319
a book. A friend of mine said, hey, man, I

542
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.680
think you'd really enjoy this book. It's Matthew mcaughey wrote.

543
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:34.000
It's called Green Lights, and it's not I don't want

544
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:35.400
to say it's a self help book. I don't want

545
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:38.359
to say it's a memoir. It's it's a little it's

546
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.400
like an amalgam of stuff. It's like a it's like

547
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:43.279
a game plan kind of a book. It's not but

548
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.519
but again not self help. It's just like, this is

549
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.200
Matthew McConaughey's story, and this is how he lives his life.

550
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:49.839
And you're kind of like, oh, I want to do

551
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:51.960
some of that stuff. I don't want to. I don't

552
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.559
play bongos naked, but I do like what he's where

553
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:56.559
he's coming from. But yeah, he he kind of talked

554
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.519
about some insecurities, like he was he noticed he was

555
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:01.599
starting to lose his hair. So this is a point

556
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:03.039
in his career where he's like, maybe I'm gonna do

557
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.680
the Yil Brenner thing and I'm just gonna shave it.

558
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:09.720
But then, you know, obviously he's got a thick, lustrous,

559
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.200
full head of hair now as he's doing wild Turkey

560
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:18.480
commercials and you know, other stuff, driving Lincolns. Yeah, yeah,

561
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.519
but this is so off of what he usually does.

562
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.799
And Amber, you and I uh, back in May, we

563
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:31.519
talked about Frailty, where he's again he's playing against type.

564
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:33.519
He's not he's not Matthew McConaughey in that movie. He's

565
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.200
not the ladies aren't loving him, and he's not smooth,

566
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.920
he's he's well, we know who he is. And Frailty, well,

567
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.000
you know, go back and listen to our Frailty episode.

568
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:47.559
Bill Paxton directed Frailty Episode. But here Van's ant I

569
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:50.559
feel like it's just another It's one of my favorite

570
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:52.640
Matthew mconaughey rolls. I'll say that. How do you guys

571
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:53.240
feel about it?

572
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.200
Yea, all right.

573
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:02.319
Honestly, it is one of my fas favorite Matthew McConaughey movies,

574
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.640
especially that early on into his career. And I say

575
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.759
early on because up until then we'd only gotten like

576
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:12.359
Dayston Confused in a really bad Texas Chainshaw Massacre.

577
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.440
Not really a whole lot of you know, yeah exactly,

578
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:16.519
not really.

579
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:19.319
A whole lot of the fool's Gold and things like

580
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.839
that that made him a household name in you know,

581
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.680
mid two thousands all the way up to about the

582
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.880
twenty tens twenty twelve area. But honestly, it was the

583
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.079
first thing I actually liked him in Dayston Confused. I

584
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:35.880
was a little too young at the point in time

585
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.920
and I gotta tell you, it's still the worst text

586
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.680
chainsaw masker I've ever seen. But I would have to

587
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:46.240
rate this, and i'd say my top ten favorite. Matthew

588
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.799
kind of hate movies. I don't think it breaks the

589
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:49.599
top five for me.

590
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.599
We might have to talk top five mcconaughe at some point,

591
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.359
because I think this would be a top five for me.

592
00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:00.839
You know this, Jake Bergant's and Time to Kill Okay, yeah,

593
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:05.119
Lincoln Lawyer anytime, anytime you're playing anytime he's playing a lawyer,

594
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.960
you know it's gonna be a hit. But yeah, but man,

595
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:11.839
the Texas Chanincel Massacre of the next Generation, I'm sure

596
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:12.799
that's a film hymn.

597
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:19.000
And a bad horror movie in their past, Like they've

598
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.559
been a lot in order episode and they've got a

599
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.880
bad horror movie like but no, like, have you guys

600
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:27.720
even seen True Detective?

601
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:32.279
Like, oh, I absolutely loved it. That is that? That's

602
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.599
my number one? Yeah? Yeah?

603
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:41.640
All right, well and contact hello, like, well, I we're

604
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:46.799
gonna about this year and I had that miss voice

605
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:47.680
of stepping all over.

606
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:55.279
Follow yours, No you do not if you're if you're

607
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:57.960
gonna talk about Matthew McConaughey being crazy and chewing the

608
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.440
scenery as one of his best roles. And yeah, I'm

609
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:02.519
gonna jump out, all right, all right.

610
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:05.200
Well I'm gonna I'm gonna pull you back because, uh,

611
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:11.079
I want to talk about Isabella Scrubco. She's playing Alex Jensen.

612
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:16.920
Now here's the thing. So Swedish model turned actress has

613
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:22.400
a stunning turn as bond girl Natalia Simonova in GoldenEye.

614
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.800
See, I hated her in that, and I loved her

615
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:25.159
in this.

616
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:27.320
You hated her in GoldenEye.

617
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:29.760
I liked that she was so boring and Golden Eye.

618
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:31.239
But if I'm kad Jensen kind.

619
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:36.280
Of, I mean, listen, there's always you know, when anytime

620
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.159
you have more than one bond girl and a grand

621
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:42.840
Granted the villains aren't necessarily bond girls, but they kind

622
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:44.559
of are, you know. And if you're going up against

623
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.840
Xena on the top, no one's gonna remember, like, you know,

624
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:49.840
I bet a lot of people are like, oh wait, wait,

625
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.440
was she in GoldenEye? Because all you're thinking about is

626
00:34:53.320 --> 00:35:01.559
you know, Pierce going after she crushing but after GoldenEye

627
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:05.039
in uh, in two thousand, she's kicking ass on the

628
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.840
Mountain in Vertical Limit, which go back and check out

629
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:11.000
our Vertical Limit episode we did. We covered that one.

630
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.239
But after Rain of Fire, her career kind of falters,

631
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.480
and I don't understand why. Like she's got the talent,

632
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:22.079
she's got the looks. What happened to Isabella.

633
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.039
I don't know. Maybe she became interested in different things.

634
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:26.280
I mean, she continued working.

635
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:29.840
It's only yeah, I mean I'm looking at it, and

636
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:31.800
I don't know. Maybe she you know, because like some

637
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.280
of her stuff before GoldenEye is like foreign stuff. Maybe

638
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.039
she don't know, maybe she went back, maybe she went home.

639
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.599
I don't know, But I'm just saying I bring it

640
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:41.079
up because i think it's a shame because I really

641
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:41.639
like her.

642
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.679
Yeah, I like her in this a lot.

643
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:46.920
Did you you've seen Vertical Limit, right?

644
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:48.280
Yeah?

645
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:51.599
Okay, so she's she's kind of she's kind of the

646
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.280
same character, and I mean that in a good ways.

647
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:56.679
She is. She kicks a lot of ass, and.

648
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.519
Yeah, I'm kind of mad that they didn't give her

649
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:00.719
more to do in the third act, cause you get

650
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.239
this great lead up to her being this you know,

651
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:07.320
amazing pilot of this helicopter, and you know, you don't

652
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.119
really understand why she and McConaughey are like kind of

653
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.920
bonded together, Like I would have liked that backstory.

654
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:18.599
Yeah, I mean how to I mean the Kentucky Regulars,

655
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:22.320
that's that's the limited series. I'll watch you know where

656
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:23.239
they come from, how they.

657
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:25.920
Come how they started heading dragons. That would have been cool.

658
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:28.880
Well, I mean, is there is there? Is there a

659
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:34.039
cooler introduction to a group of background characters that you

660
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.599
don't typically care about, but like the Archangels when she

661
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.039
when she lands the helicopter and you know, who are they?

662
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.920
The Archangels? Seventeen seconds it's all you know, that's their

663
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.800
average life span when they jump, and you're immediately like, okay,

664
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:48.880
You're like, you're like Quinn step Son, You're like, I

665
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:51.920
want to be an archangel because it's just they're basically

666
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.519
they're basically like the Navy Seals of the post apocalyptic

667
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:58.599
dark Fantasy times right now.

668
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.360
I've got to tell you re walking this. As soon

669
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.519
as I saw the Archangels, I was like, gosh, I

670
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:05.159
can't wait till I'm sorry.

671
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:09.639
I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be that guy.

672
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:10.960
You're not buying any there.

673
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:14.599
They're how cool they are No, no, no, not at all.

674
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.679
Like the thing, the net.

675
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.440
Shooting the thing was cool. But they they pulled the

676
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.199
parachute like.

677
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:26.719
The three D model, like three D map of the map,

678
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:28.760
and I just laugh every time.

679
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.639
The one guy's like it's like.

680
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:33.440
They're watching it on the screen.

681
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:36.719
His little dot just yeah, it goes away, disappears, and

682
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.199
then just like oh okay, there he goes.

683
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.599
Man good. I thought you'd be like, oh, they're so cool, like.

684
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:50.599
Isabella absolutely killed it. But yeah, no the archangel Yeah,

685
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:51.719
all right.

686
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:59.239
All right, all right, Lewis, what's up? Gerard Butler playing

687
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:04.280
playing Creek. Now, let's talk about Gerard Butler because you

688
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.039
I'm watching him like, we'll be damned, Garrett. You know,

689
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.159
you and I were, I think this is like a

690
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:14.880
couple three days, four days ago whatever, and you're like, man,

691
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:18.960
look how young jar Butler is. And I was like, what, huh?

692
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.400
Completely forgot he was in it. So he's got a

693
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:26.280
small role. Speaking of a James Bond, he has a

694
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:29.000
small role in Tomorrow Never Dies in nineteen ninety seven.

695
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:33.800
He plays Dracula in Dracula two thousand yep. In the

696
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.239
year two thousand. Garrett was any good I never really

697
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:45.519
saw it. Now, listeners, we will not be covering Dracula

698
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:51.519
two thousand come October. But a year after Rain of Fire,

699
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.079
he gets tomb Raider, Cradle of Life, he does the

700
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:58.840
Michael Crichton movie Timeline, he does Joel Schumacher's The Phantom

701
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.360
of the Opera playing the Phantom, and then of course

702
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.639
in two thousand and six, he explodes in popularity playing

703
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.559
King Leonidas in three hundred and I'm going to tell

704
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:11.239
you if this movie had come out in two thousand

705
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:14.119
and seven, he's one of the two lead roles. I

706
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:17.320
don't know which one I'd be cool with either, but yeah,

707
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.519
and I don't know since like I think, I feel

708
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:25.719
like Rain of Fire is what maybe ignited his career

709
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:26.840
pun intended.

710
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.239
I mean, he's definitely very charming in this he is,

711
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:36.599
and especially his Christian Bale's doing is you know, Batman

712
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:40.760
brooding Alley thing, you know, So he's a lot easier

713
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:41.159
to like.

714
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.320
Well, he's very likable, and that's I you know, and

715
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.199
I think that's a testament to his his the career

716
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:49.559
that he's going to have where he's playing a lot

717
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:50.519
of likable guys.

718
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:55.480
Amber I will say he's got my favorite quote in

719
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.320
this entire film though, Oh exactly. They're standing up on

720
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.840
the wall and he's like one thing worse than dragons.

721
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:02.760
Americans.

722
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:09.000
They do come in so obnoxious to like, of course,

723
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:14.760
the Americans are a bunch of jerks like Amber.

724
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.199
Amber, I wanna I kind of want to pick a fight.

725
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:22.000
What what what character did did he play where he

726
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:24.920
was not a likable guy?

727
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.480
Well, he destroyed Phantom of the Opera, Like that movie

728
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:29.320
is garbage.

729
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:41.760
That's he's a phantom. Come on him alone, singing voice. No, No,

730
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:44.480
he wasn't a bad He's not Okay, yeah, he's a phantom.

731
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:46.320
But I'm just saying, like, you're like, he's not likable.

732
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:48.360
He's like he's like a mean guy. Like what Well,

733
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:49.440
and then it's just in that.

734
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:53.880
Movie where he goes after Jamie Fox and ruins.

735
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:58.440
Citizen, which.

736
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.239
And I don't like three hundred that's like a.

737
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.599
Damn, we're pumped the brakes, you're you're, you're you're blurring

738
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:12.159
through these without rebuttal First off.

739
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:13.440
Oh, you're not gonna change with mine.

740
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:13.920
I don't like.

741
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:19.400
First off, law abiding Citizen, which we covered on this

742
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:21.920
on this show. Go back and check out our law

743
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:26.559
abiding citystem episode where or Andrew and I discussed the

744
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:32.360
pros and cons of UH vigilantes in society. I kind

745
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:35.559
of feel like I won that war. But we'll see. Listen,

746
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:41.159
A charming, loving husband and father watches his wife and

747
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:47.000
daughter get brutally sexually assaulted and murdered, and then some

748
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.400
slick lawyer lets the guys get away with it, and

749
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.880
we're you're not cheering him on for taking justice into

750
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:54.760
his own hands.

751
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:58.599
Nope, the rules.

752
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:03.760
Well, so it's what Batman does, but you're not like that.

753
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:10.119
I don't like. I like Superman Batman Present.

754
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:12.679
And you don't like you don't you don't like Leonidas

755
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:14.280
A man who is I just don't like.

756
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.119
I just don't like the movie. Like there was nothing

757
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:18.920
about it that I didn't like the way it was shot.

758
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.880
I didn't like. It just didn't interest me. Like my

759
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:23.639
son had a great time, he loved it, and I

760
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:24.880
was just whatever.

761
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:28.159
Do you typically like like Frank Miller's work at all?

762
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:32.480
Or just no? Yeah, fair, well.

763
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:32.599
She was.

764
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:40.199
Growing up Frank Miller. Okay, but you weren't reading Frank Miller.

765
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.800
As I have, and that I like and some of it,

766
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.119
some of it I like it. Some of it I

767
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:48.920
don't and the three hundred was something that I didn't like.

768
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.920
I will say, however, I did like him as Stoic

769
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:53.239
and how to Train Your Try.

770
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.199
She's back on. She's okay, see how she kind of

771
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.159
brought up a circle back circle the wagon side and

772
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.039
we got a dragon.

773
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:04.199
Okay, yes, we're back on the dragons and a good

774
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:05.280
Gerard Butler movie.

775
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:05.760
There it is.

776
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.400
Let's let's not forget. Let's not forget the hard working

777
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.519
cop he plays and Denny thieves going after the bad guys.

778
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:11.880
Amber.

779
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.239
I have not seen that. I've never even heard of that.

780
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.480
It's you know what, it's not for you?

781
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:17.920
What about Olympus?

782
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:20.760
I should have called you before I watched that other

783
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.639
movie the other day, because you know what movies I

784
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:23.079
can watch?

785
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.440
Oh yeah, listen, listeners.

786
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.639
Oh what about Olympus has fallen? Because I it's.

787
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.320
One of those Diehard the White House.

788
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:33.280
They never turned it on Illy Diehard in the white House.

789
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:34.039
He's right, it's.

790
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:36.719
Die Hard in the white House. He's secret Service agent.

791
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:41.280
And that's I'll try. He's dieharding all over the white

792
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:43.480
House and trying to say.

793
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.880
And plus you have Aaron achre playing the most dreamy

794
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:49.920
president of all time and so.

795
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:55.199
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, she'll like that one. Yeah listeners.

796
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:58.199
The other day, Amber Amber posts on her social media

797
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:04.440
that she is watching this incredible film that came out

798
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:08.320
last year. It's called Saltburn, one of the best movies

799
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.519
of that year. And I immediately was like I heard

800
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.800
like the the screeching break sound effect in my brain

801
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:18.000
because I was like, Amber, cannot watch this movie because

802
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:22.159
you've seen Saltburn. You know, there's maybe four, maybe five

803
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:29.239
highly controversial, extremely graphic moments in the movie, and I

804
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.960
I was not ready for Amber to to experience that.

805
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.079
So did you? We never we never finished that converson

806
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:36.320
did you like it?

807
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:36.840
Oh?

808
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:38.039
Oh my god.

809
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:40.400
To be fair, I didn't actually watch the whole thing.

810
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:45.000
I fell asleep and so I missed like several of

811
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:48.920
those scenes. So I just like googled, you know, like

812
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.440
the movie spoiler what happens in this movie, and just

813
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:53.960
reading it, I was gagging and I'm like, oh, thank god,

814
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:54.599
I dozed.

815
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.639
That, can you? Yeah, I'm not like the very.

816
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:58.719
Beginning in the very end, and I hated both of

817
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.599
those parts well, and then I r at the middle

818
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:00.960
and I.

819
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:06.320
Was like, what what of Barry Keegan's finest performances. And

820
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.119
having said that, Amber, I would I would like you

821
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:12.159
to not watch it until I until I force you

822
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:13.960
to do the episode.

823
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:16.559
In the shar.

824
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:20.880
Listeners look for Amber Lewis to provide us commentary on

825
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:28.079
Saltburn next season. Now, oh boy, all right, let's okay.

826
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.840
The background on this film we're getting We're getting off

827
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.719
the rails here. U gona be honest, most, if not all,

828
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:40.800
of the background available on the production is exclusively focused

829
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:46.519
on creating the dragons. And I'm not talking about yeah now,

830
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:49.360
and I'll be honest with you. It's not like, oh,

831
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:53.119
here's a couple of fun facts. There's like a ton

832
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:55.599
We could do a whole hour just on the dragons.

833
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.559
And yeah, I mean, and I dig the fact that

834
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:01.920
they that they took took it the heart like this,

835
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.559
and you know they used real Notice the dragons look real.

836
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:10.199
And but did you notice who they based their dragon

837
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.320
on and the movie they were trying to copy.

838
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:15.039
Well, go ahead and let us.

839
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.880
They straight up said, like, Dragon Slayer is the greatest

840
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.320
movie with the greatest dragon, and we're totally making that movie.

841
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:24.000
We want our dragon to be.

842
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:26.719
I'm gonna I'm gonna check the time stamp here. Yeah,

843
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.800
I knew before the hour was up she would get

844
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:33.039
that little nugget in if I purposely had left it out.

845
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:35.239
She was like, hold on one more, one more fun

846
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:41.880
fact for yeah. Uh, but I I think it's impressive.

847
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:43.800
Like the biology that they you know, like they looked

848
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.800
at like a it was like an African something something

849
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:51.159
beatle that uses uh, some kind of toxic gas, like

850
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:54.000
it kind of spits it and then ignites it, you know.

851
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:59.079
So they liked that in the opening when it was

852
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:01.880
like basically ruling and it ignites.

853
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.079
Oh yeah, It's like that was super cool. Yeah. Well

854
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:06.519
when he comes out of the cave and his eyes

855
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:10.280
are like bloodshot red, yeah, I'm like, oh, this is good.

856
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.039
And and like the fact that they take the time

857
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:16.639
to say, hey, you know these two basically it's like

858
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.719
these two glands. It's almost like the bomb in a

859
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:24.280
Diehard with a Vengeance where this one's safe, this one's safe,

860
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:25.360
but if you mix them.

861
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.119
Oh, I was thinking of impossible when they have the

862
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:30.920
gum oh yeah.

863
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.440
Red light, red light. Yeah. Yeah. And I love the

864
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.639
fact that like even like the bull male that when

865
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.320
they're fighting him, he does that thing where he kind

866
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:43.840
of like leans and leans himself back, almost like he's

867
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.119
like pulling it out of his throat, and then he

868
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:50.000
spits it and it's it's it's like a spray, just

869
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.400
momentarily before it ignites. I think this is some of

870
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:58.119
the finest CGI real world practical effects because it's a blending.

871
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.559
We know that they built like a full scale dragon

872
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.440
for like the Dead one, you know, the carcass scene,

873
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:06.159
but I think this is one of the finest moments

874
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:13.480
of real world special effects meets CGI meets some pretty

875
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:16.559
realistic stuff on screen. I'm you know, it holds up.

876
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.280
It's twenty twenty five watching this, I feel like it

877
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.320
holds up really well. What do you guys think.

878
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.960
I'd say for it being two thousand and two, absolutely,

879
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:27.280
it's it's got one of those kind of feels to

880
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.800
it that you see And of course I hate comparing

881
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.840
it to this because this movie is an absolute masterpiece.

882
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.079
But Jurassic Park, I mean, they did a great, you know,

883
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.440
model of the Dead one that they get to kind

884
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.400
of explore, you see the skin and everything up close,

885
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:46.159
and then the CGI work with it. It's just extraordinary.

886
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.239
Alongside with the actors. I mean, it's honestly, that's why

887
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.039
I loved it. Growing up as a kid, I couldn't

888
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.800
tell that there was any bad CGI done in this

889
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:55.360
at all.

890
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.440
Ember watching this film, did you catch one scene where,

891
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:02.599
like I, they kind of they cheap down the effects there?

892
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:04.199
I mean, because I couldn't find it.

893
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:08.519
No, And like I loved, like you said, the mix

894
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:10.719
of the practical with the CGI, Like you get great

895
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:16.960
moments like when McConaughey kills the female at the castle

896
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:22.280
and she sprays fire at him and his jacket catches

897
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.760
on fire and like he he is literally on fire

898
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.280
as he's trying to like get away from her, and

899
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.639
then you have a great what you know has to

900
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:35.280
be CGI, but it's so beautiful you don't care. Seeing

901
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.119
when the male comes to the castle and he's just

902
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:41.400
sitting on top of it with his wings wrapped around it, like, oh,

903
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:43.360
what a great shot.

904
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:49.400
Yep, that that might be the most cinematic shot in

905
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.119
the entire movie, and this this movie is filled with them.

906
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:56.519
But that's that moment, that big panoramic view just so

907
00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:00.280
you can see his size and just the menace that

908
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.559
he has. It's fantastic.

909
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:06.480
Well, and I love just from a storytelling standpoint, like

910
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:11.440
it's set in twenty twenty, but they're at a medieval castle,

911
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:12.880
like fighting a dragon.

912
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:18.159
Yeah, it's you know, what are you gonna do? Let's

913
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:18.639
talk about a.

914
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:21.320
Couple I was just gonna say, in the fact of

915
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:24.800
the matter of Matthew McConaughey's weapon of Choices and axe,

916
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:27.599
I don't know, she's very suiting.

917
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.840
I'm sad that there is not a Matthew McConaughey action

918
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.880
figure for this movie that you know has the axe,

919
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:42.039
has the harpoon gun. You know, anyone any designers from Nick,

920
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:44.599
from Neka or McFarland, if you're listening, can we get

921
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.000
some Rain of Fire action figures because they could go

922
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:49.519
to town with that dragon too, Like, give me the dragon,

923
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.199
give me, give me a Quinn figure, give me a

924
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:54.800
van Zant figure, give me an Alex figure, you know

925
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:56.960
with maybe she comes with the helicopter.

926
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.599
And archangel Wayne on the ground, whatever it may be.

927
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:06.360
Yeah, Oh, let's let's talk. There's a couple of scenes

928
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.400
we want to talk about before we decide what the

929
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.760
pivotal moment is Amber. Let's start. You mentioned this one,

930
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.480
and if it's your pivotal moment. I'm good with that.

931
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:20.239
But uh, there's this great moment at the beginning, and

932
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:25.840
you talked about it shows Quinn's vulnerability, shows that he's

933
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:29.679
not this like hardened guy made a steal that's just

934
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:33.400
out to protect him. I love that they're putting on

935
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:37.440
a play for the little kids, which we know as

936
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:41.599
Empire strikes back. Yes, and then the prayer. You know,

937
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:44.760
all right, that's bedtime. They're like no, you know, the

938
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:48.199
kids are like wait, you know next time. You know,

939
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:50.760
I want the I want the Shark movie, I want

940
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:51.599
Lion King. You know.

941
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:52.039
I love that.

942
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:54.360
I love that these guys are putting on plays for

943
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:56.599
the kids. And basically it's just like hit movies from

944
00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:59.000
the eighties and nineties. That's that's a lot of fun.

945
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:01.840
Yes, that whole scene that to me, like when you

946
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:04.000
say rain of Fire, I'm like, oh, that's the movie

947
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:08.440
where they do that. Yeah, because it's so adorable.

948
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:12.119
Yeah, the prayer, you know, what do we what do

949
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:16.760
we do when we wake? Keep your eyes guys? What

950
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:21.199
do we do when we sleep? Keep on? Yeah? What

951
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:24.840
do we do when we see them? Dig deep? Dig hard,

952
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:31.559
run for cover, never look. Yeah, it's it's it's charming

953
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:34.840
and it's it's a little little heartwarming, but it's also

954
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:40.360
unbelievably scary that this is the these kids, this is

955
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:43.239
their way of life, Like they're praying about not getting

956
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:47.280
eaten by dragons. You know. It's such a great moment

957
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:49.239
like that. That's just it starts off fun with the

958
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.400
Empire strikes back stuff ends with a kind of lets

959
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.039
you know, like, hey, there's here's the steaks that are

960
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:59.360
in this world. And guess what these little kids are not.

961
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:02.199
They're not safe, they're not immune. Just because your little

962
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.880
kids doesn't mean they can't get you know, eaten or

963
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:08.840
burnt to a crisp. I didn't I didn't see him,

964
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:15.599
but uh we we mentioned the hit show earlier. Oh yeah,

965
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:21.800
Jeoffrey bra Yeah right, so you saw him the front road.

966
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:23.159
Yep, he's right there.

967
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:26.480
Yeah. I'm wondering do you think that has anything to

968
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:27.920
do with him being in Batman Begins?

969
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:33.519
I wonder he doesn't have any scenes with Christian Beale though,

970
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:35.880
but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

971
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:38.360
Well, he's got yeah, he's got the one with the

972
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:41.320
batter ring. I thought that's right.

973
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:42.599
That's right, that's right.

974
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:47.239
Yeah, so I thought it was a scene with Commissioner Gordon,

975
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:48.639
but you're right, it was with Batman.

976
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:51.400
This is a great moment, though, Ambers, are you saying

977
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:52.679
this is the pivotal moment for you?

978
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:58.239
When you say this movie like that is kind of

979
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:02.039
what defines this is that they're setting you in this

980
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:05.280
future where this is what these children have grown up with.

981
00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:07.880
This is their entire world. They don't know any other world.

982
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:11.239
Okay, all right, but let's see if we garret. Let's

983
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:13.880
see if we can win Amber over with a different scene.

984
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:16.719
Because that's a great scene, it really is. But we're

985
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:18.360
talking about we're not talking about favorite scene. Were talking

986
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:22.039
about pivotal moment. Next one, I want to talk about.

987
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:26.599
The Kentucky Regulars arrive and Quinn's ready to tell, you know,

988
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:30.960
turn around, get lost, and Matthew McConaughey gets right up

989
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:34.840
in his face and he's talking about magic hour. You know,

990
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:39.039
they've got great vision during the day, they've got even

991
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:43.480
greater vision at night. But at dusk it's a little misty.

992
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:45.519
They're they're they're they're flying blind.

993
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:51.840
And he's here's what, it doesn't matter at all. That

994
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:54.559
never comes back, that never comes back.

995
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:55.239
They don't wait.

996
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:58.840
Until the London fog rolls in to go attack.

997
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:00.599
Like, well, no, no, the whole the whole point is

998
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:03.880
that he under he learns a little bit about their biology,

999
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:06.400
and he learns that they can be killed, he learns

1000
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:11.280
that they can be stopped, and just his whole conversation

1001
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:14.639
it's like it'll put chills on you. I don't know.

1002
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:18.599
I loved I loved the Magic Hour speech. That was fantastic.

1003
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.320
It's not the pivotal moment. I'm just pointing out because

1004
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:24.960
I thought it was awesome. Garrett, I did want to

1005
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:31.280
talk about the the vertical mapping, Yes, so, I mean

1006
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:35.960
for post apocalyptic tech, this is pretty pretty cool, right.

1007
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:39.960
It is pretty cool, honestly, building a three D scale

1008
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.760
of a map to see exactly how much distance you

1009
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:47.000
have to the ground to century wrangle a dragon while

1010
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:48.079
free falling.

1011
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:48.719
From a helicopter.

1012
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:50.920
That's yeah, I've got to tell you, it's pretty damn

1013
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:53.920
impressive for post apocalyptic technology.

1014
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:54.800
Yeah.

1015
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:57.719
Well, even the nets like when when when Jar Butler'

1016
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.000
is like, oh you're gonna shoot obviously you shoot nets

1017
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:03.000
at them, you know, like and you think like like

1018
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:07.119
like a net, but it's like this like barbarire mesh

1019
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:12.760
thing that obviously clos that whole scene is awesome, but

1020
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:16.440
it jumps up a notch after the Archangels get destroyed

1021
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:19.239
the whole you know, Quinn, you know, Quinn's got to

1022
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:21.480
pick up the one vertical and then he's like he's

1023
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.039
got to race back and now he's the bait on

1024
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:26.039
horseback and I love that too. We've got tanks, we

1025
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:30.559
got horseback, we got motorcycles. But this is where Matthew

1026
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:33.679
McCaughey starts to get a little unhinged, you know, bring

1027
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:36.280
her to me, Quinn, she's bringing it down here, Bring

1028
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:38.400
her to me, And you're like, what's he gonna do?

1029
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:40.239
But then you're like, wait, he's he gets that harpoon

1030
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:42.079
gun out and you're just like, holy shit, this We're

1031
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.320
about to see a dragon get get slaughtered. And it's

1032
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:46.639
I think it's awesome, absolutely awesome.

1033
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.679
Definitely an awesome scene, especially like as soon as Christian

1034
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:55.000
bo clears the ridge, he fires directly at Christian Bale

1035
00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:57.559
knowing this thing is right on his ass and just

1036
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:00.599
nails it. So yeah, no, it's it's a pretty awesome

1037
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:03.320
ending to that scene as well. Like Amber said, and

1038
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:07.840
dragon comes over already, Ben harpoon breeze, the fire catches

1039
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:11.599
is really awesome. Bahmer jacket on fire and then you

1040
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:13.159
know it means it's in.

1041
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:18.519
You know, it's not very aliens to me. Yes, I

1042
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.559
was very excited about it because, like I said before,

1043
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:24.159
when the Americans arrive, you're like, okay, these guys are

1044
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:27.599
just a bunch of jerks, like, oh god, you know,

1045
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:31.119
and so to see them, you know, really you know,

1046
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:33.320
soldier opping like.

1047
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:35.920
They go into work mode, right, yeah, all right, So

1048
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.800
here's the scene. For me, that's the pivotal moment. All right,

1049
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:43.199
I'm gonna try and win Amber over and Garrett. I

1050
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:44.800
don't know if this is your pivot moment, and if

1051
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:46.599
it's not, you're gonna have to let us know what

1052
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:49.960
scene did it for you. But after we killed the dragon,

1053
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:54.519
it's party in the castle. Time. We got hendricks blaring.

1054
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:58.880
Everyone's drinking some some good some good ale probably hop

1055
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:02.719
some good homemade stuff, you know, Irish Irish whiskey, and

1056
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:04.960
everyone's just like cheering, and you know, Quinn's walking in

1057
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.559
and oh yeah, you know, everyone's getting saluted him. You know,

1058
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:09.920
it's part of time because these people have not seen

1059
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:14.119
what they just saw Van ZANDT coming in and killing

1060
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:17.519
the party the way he does. You know, he puts

1061
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.719
off his hand, he's you know what's he say? Oh yeah,

1062
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:27.199
the invY the country that has heroes, and they all cheer,

1063
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:30.440
and then he's like, I say, pity the country that

1064
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:33.119
needs them yep, and irish.

1065
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:35.800
This whole scene was so stupid.

1066
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:37.719
Oh you right there.

1067
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:42.920
These people have been hiding in tone underground for twenty years.

1068
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:46.440
They're starving to death. They've never seen anybody kill a dragon.

1069
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:47.920
Everybody, let me finish.

1070
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:50.400
And this stupid guy like, we don't even know these people.

1071
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.800
I'm not sad about it. I'm sad, but not sad.

1072
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.559
Hold On, hold on, I'm gonna put this in perspective

1073
00:58:55.599 --> 00:59:02.559
for you. No, yes, this guy just watched three of

1074
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:03.960
his friends die.

1075
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:09.039
I mean he was so flippantly saying, they live seventeen seconds.

1076
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:13.599
Hold on, they don't even need a parachute because they're

1077
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:15.000
all gonna die.

1078
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:19.199
You out of control this this episode. But here's the thing.

1079
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:24.119
This is such a great moment for McConaughey because as

1080
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:29.559
he kills the party, did you guys notice how how

1081
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:32.760
how tears like the tears that are welling up in

1082
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:35.679
his eyes. As he's talking to these people, he's like

1083
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.679
fighting back, like he wants to cry, but he's he's

1084
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:41.800
mad that they're celebrating while his friends are dead. You know,

1085
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.079
he's like, hey, we bury our dead at you know,

1086
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:48.960
in the morning, at dawn. But he puts it in perspective,

1087
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:53.000
you know, one dragging down three people dead. Well, we'll

1088
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:54.960
be getting somewhere and say what, I don't know three

1089
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:59.480
hundred years he in this moment. First off, like you

1090
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.199
mentioned the cl New Marines, and they're they're They're there

1091
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:03.559
to kick ass and have fun.

1092
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:07.880
It's rolling into town like we're the baddest of badasses.

1093
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:09.719
But here's to solve all your problems.

1094
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:12.360
Here's the thing they're not. They're not They're not They're

1095
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:14.519
not joking around and having a good time, like like

1096
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:16.679
the Clonal Marines. And don't get me wrong, the Clonal

1097
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.679
Marines are awesome. I love we you know, we know

1098
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:21.519
we love aliens. But these people are here to do

1099
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:25.440
a job and they're not here to celebrate. They're here

1100
01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:30.280
to kill dragons. They're here to recruit and they take effen.

1101
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:33.480
The movie could have been a little longer because I

1102
01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:37.039
can tell you everything there is to know and like

1103
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.519
about the Colonial Marines. I couldn't even tell you the

1104
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:42.280
names of those other people, and they screamed their names

1105
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:44.880
like forty seven times, but I can tell you what

1106
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:45.199
it was.

1107
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.960
Doesn't matter. They're dead, they you know. But we don't

1108
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:50.000
want to celebrate. We don't want to be We're not

1109
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:51.800
partying when when three people are dead.

1110
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:54.679
I like the fact that if he had showed that

1111
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:59.079
he cared about them at all before they died, then maybe.

1112
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:00.000
Well they made their choice.

1113
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:01.000
I would have felt bad.

1114
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:02.840
It's a pivotal moment, amber.

1115
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:05.719
No, you know what actually could be the pivotal moment

1116
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:11.000
is the next day when this guy who's nobody from

1117
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:15.039
nowhere is telling me that he's gonna conscript my guys

1118
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:17.639
and take them off to fight dragons.

1119
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:19.360
Okay, so are you.

1120
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:22.400
Behind?

1121
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:27.719
But he may have went a tat over the line.

1122
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:34.039
Hey, so I was so happy when Christia Beale like

1123
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:34.679
he stepped up.

1124
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:38.280
It's the dragon. No, it's war. War gets the dragons over.

1125
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.239
You're not the possibly you just showed up yesterday.

1126
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:43.519
I mean, we're we gotta make a difference. We have

1127
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:45.400
we gotta have the you know, only one species is

1128
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:47.679
getting out alive. Don't you remember what Christia Bill told us,

1129
01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:51.480
You can't hide in the castle and beat the dragons.

1130
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:53.880
I don't know. Good so far?

1131
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.239
Nah you got you gotta go kill him beans in

1132
01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:01.559
that that's how you do it. Amber Garrett, Garrett, what

1133
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:03.559
is the pivotal moment of Rain a Fire?

1134
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:08.480
So my pivotal moment of this film would be the

1135
01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:12.599
entire time Christian Bale is essentially just either taking orders,

1136
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:15.000
listening to other people, or just kind of going with

1137
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:18.960
a flow. And it's not until Gerard Butler, his best friend,

1138
01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:21.679
pretty much his brother in this film, ends up perishing

1139
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:24.679
when they're trying to save the children, that Christian Bale

1140
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.320
becomes that leader. So I'd like to think that that

1141
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:30.280
is the pivotal moment where he becomes the leader of

1142
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:33.800
those people, where he's no longer listening to van Zand's

1143
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:37.599
crazy plans. He's actually got this in his own mind

1144
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:39.880
of what he has to do now to exact this,

1145
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:43.199
and even when van Zand ends up falling, he still

1146
01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:46.679
carries through what he intended on doing. So I'd like

1147
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:49.960
to think that is my pivotal moment, just because it

1148
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:53.719
took someone so close to him dying to see that

1149
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:55.320
he has to make a decision.

1150
01:02:56.039 --> 01:03:00.079
Man, he can't even get through the prayer like the

1151
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.880
the woman next show has to finish it. Okay, Amber,

1152
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:05.960
can we can we agree that Garrett may have something here?

1153
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:08.000
Maybe maybe Garrett's got the pivotal moment.

1154
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:09.239
He's got a point.

1155
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:12.199
I think he's got a really good point. So I'll

1156
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:15.800
tell you what I always love anytime there's a there's

1157
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:19.119
a chance that there's you know, there's debate for the

1158
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:22.440
pivotal moment that that's a good film, you know, So

1159
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.159
let's take let's take one more break and we come back.

1160
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:31.199
We'll wrap it up, all right. So colin audible here,

1161
01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:33.960
uh you know, Typically we like to say, you know,

1162
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.679
if someone's unfamiliar with this director, what three films would

1163
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:41.079
you suggest they watch? Now, here's the thing. Rob Bowman

1164
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:47.360
has directed four features, So I have I'm gonna go

1165
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:50.199
van zan on this. I'm gonna you know, the volunt

1166
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:53.599
the volunteering section is over. Now it's time for the

1167
01:03:53.719 --> 01:04:00.800
Here's how it's gonna be. Amber, Here's I'm gonna give

1168
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.239
you two that they just have to be on your list.

1169
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:05.320
They just have to be. But then we can maybe

1170
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:08.119
debate what that third film is gonna be or that

1171
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:11.239
third option will be. Let me start you with nineteen

1172
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.679
ninety three's Airborne. Have you had the opportunity to see this?

1173
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:19.800
I'm not okay? Now you both need to see this

1174
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.719
for a whole host of reasons, amber you more so

1175
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:28.239
than Garrett. It was shot on location in downtown Cincinnati.

1176
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.159
It's a coming of age movie. This dreamy heart throb

1177
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:37.440
kid from California. His family gets uprooted, they get moved,

1178
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:40.239
they have to move to Ohio. He's a surfer, he's

1179
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:43.840
a rollerblayer, he knows nothing about Ohio's way of life,

1180
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:47.039
and he's gonna move in with his cousin, who is

1181
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:49.840
a very then unknown Seth Green.

1182
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:52.239
Okay, so not cool.

1183
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.400
Obviously. The kids at school, you know, they're big into

1184
01:04:56.400 --> 01:05:00.760
hockey and Midwest sports, and they're they're kind of bullies,

1185
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:02.519
you know, they're not giving him an easy way to go,

1186
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:07.159
one of them being an unknown Jack Black.

1187
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:10.159
Oh that's pretty good. Yeah.

1188
01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:12.719
So anyways, like he wins the girl and he you know,

1189
01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:16.960
so happens. It's it's basically it's like an a rollerblading movie.

1190
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:20.760
Like rollerblading becomes big in like ninety two. This movie

1191
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:23.679
The whole thing is all about this race in downtown Cincinnati.

1192
01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:26.519
So imagine the Flying Pig, only it's on rollerblades and

1193
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:29.880
it's like a hundred times more dangerous and it's shot

1194
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:31.760
all in like so amber. When you're watching it, you're like,

1195
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:35.440
holy shit, A A Charles Holy Share, holy shit, Like

1196
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:38.519
you're just picking up all these Some of my friends

1197
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:40.079
I used to hang out with are in the movie

1198
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:43.599
as extras. It is a fantastic movie. It's a lot

1199
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:45.960
of fun. I'll tell you what. We might even end

1200
01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:47.800
up doing it because this is what I wanted to do,

1201
01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:49.639
and that's led me to Rob Bowman, and then that

1202
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:53.960
led me to Random Fire. So no regrets, but Airborne

1203
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:58.599
is a really fun movie. Rob Bowman got the job

1204
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:02.440
to direct it. It's his first directorial feature film, and

1205
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:05.719
he got the job based on his television work directing

1206
01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:08.719
Parker Lewis Can't Lose If you guys remember that Parker

1207
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:14.840
like the Farris Bueler type TV show. So Airborne you

1208
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:19.880
gotta check it out now. Second Choice nineteen ninety eight,

1209
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:21.760
The X Files.

1210
01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:26.000
Yeah, yeah, right, of course.

1211
01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:28.239
No big secret how he got this obviously, we talked

1212
01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:30.519
about he directed thirty three episodes. He was a producer

1213
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:33.400
on the television show Amber your thoughts on the X

1214
01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:34.000
Files movies?

1215
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:37.760
I love everything X Files, and my argument was going

1216
01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:40.559
to be just forget everything else and just do yourself

1217
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:42.480
a favor and watch the X Files.

1218
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:45.119
See that's why I didn't give you the chance to

1219
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:45.920
make that argument.

1220
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:49.639
I mean, yeah, you're gonna plenty of seasons.

1221
01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:52.800
You watch the five. Yeah, but you're gonna watch Airborne.

1222
01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:58.559
Yeah you will come on now. Third choice, Amber's gonna

1223
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.679
tell us to watch his thirteen episodes of Star Trek

1224
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:04.320
the Next Generation. And I mean, she wouldn't be wrong

1225
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:07.320
if if she said that. But Garrett, do you wanna

1226
01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:10.719
do you want to make a maybe an argument for

1227
01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:14.960
two thousand and five's Electra the superhero, the superhero fan,

1228
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:16.039
the collbook, big fan.

1229
01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:17.360
You want you want to make that?

1230
01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:18.440
Why would you do that?

1231
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:21.000
Wait? Give give get? I said, do you want to?

1232
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:23.360
He could say no, that movie's garbage and you know

1233
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:26.320
I'm watching X Files with Amber, or say hold on,

1234
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:27.119
here's what.

1235
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:31.880
Uh it's the worst CD I've ever seen in any movie.

1236
01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:35.639
To follow Rain of Fire with this, I I don't

1237
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:39.400
know how, but you know whatever? Man Now, Electra one

1238
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:42.400
and nine. I will never rewatch that film again. So

1239
01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:44.679
I'm going to stay with Amber on this one.

1240
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:48.239
The best The best thing about raiinn of Fire or no, sorry,

1241
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:49.639
there's a lot of great things about Rain of Fire.

1242
01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:53.400
The best thing about Electra would be their blatant use

1243
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:57.599
of uh the Evanescent song during her training montage. That's

1244
01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:03.760
that's about it. That's yeah, all right, Amber, we recommend

1245
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:06.920
Rain of Fire. Yes, where'd you watch this one? Do

1246
01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:07.840
you do? You want a copy of it?

1247
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:08.280
Or did you?

1248
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:09.239
Did you catch it on Prime?

1249
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:09.880
Which not?

1250
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:12.440
I rented it on Prime you.

1251
01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:16.079
Know, not streaming anywhere, not streaming, but you can rent it, right,

1252
01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:16.439
you can?

1253
01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:20.920
You the four bucks? Like absolutely, I was not side

1254
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:22.960
of it. I watched it like three times in the

1255
01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:24.000
last two days.

1256
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:27.399
I've uh, I've got the dvd, as I said at

1257
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:31.079
the top of the hour, has a lot of fun

1258
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:32.119
behind the scenes stuff.

1259
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:34.880
Just gonna ask any good bonus stuff.

1260
01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:38.920
Well, if you want to learn about how they made dragons, yeah,

1261
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:41.760
you better believe it. There's like four different features for

1262
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:47.000
that stuff. Garrett. Your recommendation Rain of Fire, Random Fire?

1263
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:50.000
Absolutely, And I will say the DVD does have a

1264
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:53.640
few amazing things on there, especially showing how to make

1265
01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:57.319
the dragons and also just shows how likable of a

1266
01:08:57.359 --> 01:08:58.680
person Gerard Butler is.

1267
01:08:58.840 --> 01:08:59.960
I do have to say.

1268
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:10.039
There you go? All right? Well listeners, listeners, what do

1269
01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:12.520
you think of Rain of Fire? Have you seen this one?

1270
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:16.920
What are your thoughts on Rob Bowman? You can let

1271
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:20.399
us know on social media. You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram,

1272
01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:23.800
and x. You can check out a Film by Podcast

1273
01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:27.359
dot com for all of our episodes streaming free. Uh

1274
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:30.079
actually you know, links to you know, the streaming platform

1275
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:33.119
of your choice, links to our Patreon. It's all there.

1276
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:35.920
You can email us at a Film by Podcast at

1277
01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:39.720
gmail dot com with your questions, comments and concerns. We

1278
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:42.880
may just read your response on the show and send

1279
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:46.399
you some of Film by swag guys. Glad to be back,

1280
01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:53.279
Garrett reviving the back to the box office. Uh spoiler

1281
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:57.039
free movie reviews. Uh, listeners, you know, if you if you,

1282
01:09:57.720 --> 01:09:59.520
if you weren't aware, we kind of we kind of

1283
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:01.000
took a little bit a break, you know, Dave and

1284
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:04.319
I were always doing that, but you know, then phaser

1285
01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:07.600
sets the stunt kind of got wildly popular and he

1286
01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:09.520
was needed on the bridge of the enterprise a lot

1287
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:12.840
more often so, But Garrett, you know, you're like, hey,

1288
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:16.520
let's watch movies, let's let's review him. So Garrett, I

1289
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.000
know we've had a lot of great stuff. We did

1290
01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:21.800
F one not too long ago, and we got a

1291
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:25.279
whole bunch of other stuff heading this way. So looking

1292
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:27.239
forward to to more of that, looking forward to having

1293
01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:30.680
more of you on the film by show though.

1294
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:35.079
Heck, yeah, you know I'm excited about of course. Back

1295
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:38.039
at the box office, it's my favorite time of the week.

1296
01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:40.399
We just get to go be goofy, have a couple

1297
01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:43.319
of drinks, check out new flick, and then just let

1298
01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:45.560
the people know exactly what they should be and what

1299
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:47.159
they should not be checking out.

1300
01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:51.000
Mm hm, see it, stream it or skip it. Amber,

1301
01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:55.479
not skipping much on the back half. Amber, we got

1302
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:59.039
you locked in from like another fourteen episodes this season.

1303
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:01.479
This is a ridiculous number.

1304
01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:03.079
I was. I was looking at the schedule and I

1305
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:06.640
was like, oh wow, she's done like fourteen episodes this

1306
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:10.359
year already. Oh well, look at that, she's got another

1307
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:14.000
fourteen head heading her way. Amber. I know you've got

1308
01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:18.159
a lot of fun stuff. You kind of hinted at Contact.

1309
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:20.720
I know you and Andrew Blakeley will be covering that

1310
01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:26.840
one here soon. You have the next couple of months.

1311
01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:26.680
For my birthday.

1312
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:29.359
Yeah, it's like the what the fortieth, the fortieth anniversary

1313
01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:31.720
of the Carl Sagan novel. So you guys are gonna

1314
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:33.079
talk a little bit about You're gonna talk about the

1315
01:11:33.079 --> 01:11:36.800
movie obviously, Matthew McConaughey movie where he does not have

1316
01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:39.880
a shaved head or tattoos or smoke cigars. But it's

1317
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.640
still good, it's still awesome. So yeah, we got a

1318
01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:45.359
lot of fun ones coming to Amber. I know we're

1319
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:47.800
celebrating the fortieth anniversary of maybe one or two nineteen

1320
01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:50.239
eighty five movies. We did summer, we did Summer Rental,

1321
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:52.359
but we got we got a couple of other ones

1322
01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:54.760
planned and uh, we'll get to them when we get

1323
01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.239
to him. So to all of you out there listening

1324
01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:00.000
to the show, following us on social media and subscribe

1325
01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:17.319
to our Patreon, we thank you Amber. Just attacking.

1326
01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:21.119
That right here again.

1327
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:24.319
I gotta tell you, uh, you go back in time

1328
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:28.800
two we did for our nineteen six when we when

1329
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:32.600
we revived it for Patreon first well not the first one,

1330
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:34.039
but like one of the first ones we did was

1331
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:39.039
Mosquito Coast. Yeah, and Amber, you know, i'd heard her

1332
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:42.520
on you know, the Documents seventy seven podcast. I was like,

1333
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:44.720
told I told him over there. I was like, you

1334
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:49.880
guys are not using this this individual to the to

1335
01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:52.560
the fullest extent. Like she needs to get her, get

1336
01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:54.840
more of her. So I just, you know, I was like,

1337
01:12:55.479 --> 01:13:02.159
we stole her. I'm gonna but that Amber is not

1338
01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:05.479
who you met tonight. That Amber was like that. Amber

1339
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:11.039
was like, yeah, you're like. I was like, what are

1340
01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:13.520
you doing? What are you doing? You're the voice, You're

1341
01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:16.960
the voice of reason, but you know what our money's worth.

1342
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:22.279
And I don't know. Somewhere between that episode and Jack

1343
01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:26.159
Nicholson dropping her panties and Witches of Eastwick and this, yeah,

1344
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:29.720
she was breathing plenty of fire tonight. But that's what

1345
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:30.720
we want, Amber, That's.

1346
01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:33.840
What we exactly. And I enjoyed it, you know, Garrett