Jan. 19, 2025

Rob Reiner - The American President

Rob Reiner - The American President
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Season 6 A Film By...

It's Inauguration Day, so Jeff and Amber are discussing one of their favorite movie presidents in Rob Reiner's political romantic comedy, The American President. Listen as they talk minor controversies behind the scenes, Michael Douglas' move toward "elder statesmen" acting, and both do their best to refrain from quoting Aaron Sorkin's crackling dialogue!

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On the topic of fictional presidents, whether it's your favorite

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fictional movie president, or you think is the best fictional

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movie President. What name you got for me?

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Hands down, no question, President Thomas Beck.

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You didn't even think about that. You just shot from

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the hip.

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There is no question.

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President Morgan Freeman. He is fantastic.

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Yeah, Oh my gosh. From the moment he walked on

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the screen, he.

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Had a he had a tough gig. I mean, that

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was the extinct extinction level event. Yes, you know that's

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a That's an awesome movie.

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We did a we did an episode over on Docking

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Bay that was Deep Impact versus Armageddon.

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And I don't know where I come out on that one.

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That's oh.

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I have opinions, as we know, so you can head

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over and check it out and then you'll have your answer.

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You're just rote down with you, Grrison Ford, Right, I'm

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not no, I not for sure.

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I when I think of fictional presidents, not only is

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he my favorite, he is, in my opinion, the best.

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I'm talking about a golf wer fire pilot who served

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as president from ninety three to two thousand and one.

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Amber You'll remember he played a significant part in defeating

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the alien threat during the War of nineteen ninety six.

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Two terms in office, and he helped create the Earth

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Space Defense Initiative. President Thomas J. Whitmore is my.

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Choice, Absolutely not, you know, but I'm still going Morgan Freeman.

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But present President Beck not a bad choice. That's a

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great choice. Whitmore a great choice. Harrison Ford and Air

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Force one that's not a bad choice either.

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But I love thinking narrated it to fictional because that

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helped a lot, because then there's a lot of great,

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you know, interpretations of real presidents, and that could just

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be a whole episode itself.

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Well, I do want to talk about another fictional president

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who is, in my opinion, a great president. So let's

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talk about a film by Rob Reiner, his nineteen ninety

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five political romance film The American President.

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Mister President, this isn't going to work.

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Are you attracted to me?

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That's not the issue? You know what your problem is?

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What's my problem?

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Sex and nervousness. Sidney ellen Wade has done nothing to you.

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Does you want a character that debate Bob? You better

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stick with me, because Sidney ellen Wade is way out

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of your league. My name is Andrew Sheppard, and I

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am the president.

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Hello everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis, and this

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is a Film by podcast. It is inauguration day. What

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better time to talk about a political film, you know,

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a film about an amazing president who is vying for reelection.

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And I think we got a great one on our hands.

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This is actually this is the second time we've talked

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about Rob Reiner. We did Gosta of Mississippi a couple

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seasons ago. I don't know if you've seen that one, Amber,

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but that's.

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Another great, great movie.

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Yeah. So before we get going, I do want to

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say a thank you to the very lovely, very talented

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kat Lester. She joined us just a few days ago.

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We did a bonus episode this past Friday where we

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had a conversation with a lady in lavender phantasm Royalty.

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Kat Lester joined us. That was such a fun time.

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We had a blast. I got a lot lot of

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positive feedback about that, so, you know, hopefully we'll get

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her back in a great Yeah. Absolutely, But I think

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we're gonna have a great episode today because this movie. Amber,

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I'll go ahead and kill the suspense. We both love

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this film. The Americans, Oh my God.

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Yes, Rob Reiner makes an absolutely amazing romantic comedy.

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He absolutely does. Let's talk a little bit about Rob Reiner.

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A couple of facts for you, Amber, and a quote.

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You know, we always like to do three facts in

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a quote. Yes, let's start with the fact that in

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nineteen seventy four he co wrote the first episode of

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Happy Days. Were you a fan of Happy Days? Did

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you watch that like reruns when you're a little kid? Oh?

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Yeah, yeah, I loved Fonsie.

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We all loved. But who didn't love the Fonds? Our friend,

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def Dave will appreciate this one. Rob Reiner has said

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that one of his all time favorite bands is the

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Beach Boys, which leads me to this question, Amber, I

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don't recall ever hearing a Beach Boys song in a

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Rob b Reiner film. Is that accurate?

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Oh? Wow, I can't.

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I couldn't think of one.

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If there was one, it would have been here, you know.

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Yeah, deaf Dave's listening and he's already researching it right now.

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I can't wait to hear the feedback on this one.

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He'll let us know more on Rob Reiner. Stand By

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Me is his favorite of all the films he's directed.

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And considers it his masterpiece. Obviously we cover that on

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nineteen eighty six. We actually had Dayton Johnson from Docum

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Base seventy seven join us for that one. I mean,

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that's an all time amazing coming of age story.

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I think classic.

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You know if you're wondering about the sheer terror on

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the faces of Will Wheaton and Jerry O'Connell during the

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train scene, cause it's pretty convincing. Oh right, Yeah, Reiner

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didn't believe they looked scared enough after several takes, so

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he pulled these two children aside, began yelling at them

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to the point they started crying, and then he used

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the very next take that.

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They did it so hard like the mom and me

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is just like the hell. But Steven Spielberg did the

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same thing to Christian Bale on Empire of the Sun,

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and he's like, sometimes you just you have to get

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them where they need to go, and it seems harsh,

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but you gotta do it.

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You gotta do what you gotta do with kids. Yeah,

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I'll give you. I'll give you one more like I

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told you I got. I got a bonus fact for you.

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Years ago, while waiting for a flight in terminal b

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at Lax, Rob Reiner met the only other person sitting

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in the terminal, had a brief conversation about his filmography.

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That person later went on to co create via film

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by podcast. His name was Jeff Johnson. What Yeah, me

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and Rob hanging out at the airport.

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Oh my goodness.

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Yeah, fun, little fun, little moment. It was. It was

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surreal talking to the guy that created the Princess Bride.

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But but moving on. You know, if you amber, if

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you follow Rob Briiner on social media, it's no secret

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he is very political. And again we don't get we

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don't get political our on our show. So his political

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beliefs are his political beliefs and we'll leave it at that.

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But on running for political office, Rob had this to say, quote,

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I have thought about it. The problem was, I was

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seriously thinking about it a while ago, and then the

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family sat down and we all talked about it. And

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then I polled about forty percent in my own family.

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I figured, if I can't carry my own family, then

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I'm not gonna run. So they have it. Poor meathead.

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He came in. When you know, I like when he

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talks about sitting down with a family. I see like

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Carol O'Connor sitting there, tell you know, tell him as

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an idiot, and he say, yeah, you can't run for office,

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you know. But yeah, Rob's family said that that's not

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a good spot for you.

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So I mean, I think he's right where he is

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meant to be.

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Yeah, making amazing films. That's where we want him to be.

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So Amber, speaking of amazing films, I think the American

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President definitely qualifies. But for the listeners that maybe are

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not familiar with this one, you want to give us

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a little brief synopsis.

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Yeah, it's about a president in his first term who

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is a widower and he meets an environmental lobbyist and

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they fall in love and it's a romantic comedy, but

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there's also politics involved because they've got to woo each

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other in front of the entire country.

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Well said, definitely, Uh, it's got it's got its politics,

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it's got its it's got its comedy, and it definitely

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has its heart. This again, this is one of those

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movies that I could, you know, I could watch this alone,

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can watch this on date night, you know. Either way,

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I'm just ready to tackle it. And critics love the film.

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They praised the performances, the score by Mark Schiman, obviously,

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the screenplay by Aaron Sorkin. Amber nominated for one Oscar

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and five Golden Globes, wins nothing. That's a lot of accolades.

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So it's not exactly an underrated film, but we're still

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talking about it because when you say Rob Reiner's name,

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it's most likely not even one of the first ten

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movies people think about, right.

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I would say not. He has so many good ones,

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such a great dermography just as a director, that I

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think maybe this one kind of you're like, oh, yeah,

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he did do that one, didn't he mm hmm.

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He's one of those guys where he's a hit maker.

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And then the second you think, okay, let's talk about

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Rob Reiner for a second, I think your brain immediately

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goes to certain films and then you forget about a

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lot of them, you know, And and truthfully, I think

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American President is one of those because even even the

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first time I watched I was like, oh, it's a

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Rob Reiner film. So one thing I love about Reiner

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is when he works with guys like Aaron Sorkin. Can

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we have can we have a little Sorkin talk?

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My gosh, I know you're a fan of so I

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know you're a Sorkin fan. I know you're you were

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excited to talk Sorkin.

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Yes, I finished watching this movie and then turned on

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The West Wing again for the I don't know, pray

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seventh time.

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The seventh like how many? How many seasons was it was?

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It was The West Wing.

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Seven seven, the first five.

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Okay, seven seasons and you're on your seventh rewatch. At

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least that's a lot. So let's talk about Sorkin. Robert

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Redford has an idea for a film, with the pitch

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being that quote the President elopes. He likes Sorkin's treatment

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because he kind of shopped us around this idea around.

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Sorkin had the best treatment. He hires him to write

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the screenplay, and the idea is that Redford and Emma

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Thompson are going to star in this romantic comedy. More

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on why that film didn't take place later on Amber.

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This shocked me. He's given an interview with TV Guide,

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Aaron Sorkin admitted that he wrote this screenplay while high

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on crack cocaine.

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What yeah, poor Aaron is you know he's he's recovered

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or he's in recovery or however you say it, but

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he famously was struggling with addiction all through the West

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Wing as well. And you know, it's just amazing that

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somebody's so brilliant can operate on such a high level

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and be, you know, struggling so badly in their personal life.

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You know, it's shocking crack cocaine because like when you

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when you hear crack cocaine, you immediately think inner city, poor,

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you know, just terrible situations, right, you don't.

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I think I'll just escalated into that, you.

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Know, I guess you know, I mean someone as successful

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as him, and I just see him like, okay, they've

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they've got a drug addiction, or they they struggle with alcohol.

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I would never think cocaine. It just when I read that,

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I was like, wow, I.

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Don't know a lot about it, but I was I

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who was the kid in health class that when they

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said it only takes one time to get it into like,

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I fully bought into that and never tried anything because

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I was like, I would be the one, you know,

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so it could be like he did it one time

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and that was all it took.

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Shout out to my dad, Al Johnson. He sat me

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and my brother down when we were children, made us

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watch New Jack City, Oh as a as a here's

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why drugs are bad type of thing. The movie's awesome,

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by the way, Yes, but I also was done watching

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it thinking I will never smoke drugs like that looks terrible. Yep,

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speaking a terrible. I want to talk about the lawsuit.

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Are you familiar with the lawsuit? Yeah, well it's a

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little ridiculous, isn't it.

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I think it's complete horseshit. But you know, will yet,

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it's not that first time that's happened.

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Yeah, so is it. William Richard, who as a writer

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director he unsuccessfully sued the Writer's Guild of America for

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not being credited for the screenplay, and he claimed plagiarism,

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citing his nineteen eighty one screenplay called The President Elopes,

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which you know, you know, that's a little suspect because

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that's you know, Robert Redford used that pitch, you know,

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while he's shopping around. So you got to wonder where

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this all plays out. You're talking about the West Wing,

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though Richard also claimed sor constilled parts of his script

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to create the West Wing. Yeah, part of me part

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of me says, okay, So let's look at this subjectively.

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Part of me says, okay, here is a writer, director

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and amber. This is the guy that gave us the

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Coming of Age nineteen eighty eight comedy A Night in

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the Life of Jimmy rearding with River Phoenix.

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Mm hmm.

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So he is going up against a writer who's struggling

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with crack cocaine. That's a you know, looking at that objectively,

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like you got to go, hmm, hold on. But you

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know what, they ruled in favor of Sorkin. He is

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the sole credit as screenwriter on this film.

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Well, and I would say, like he is a singular

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genius with a singular voice. And I think it would

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be very obvious if this wasn't his work.

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I can tell you just listening to the crackling dialogue,

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this is one hundred percent Aaron Sorkin through and through.

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Yeah, the DNA of this like becomes the DNA of

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the West Wing. Like there are lines that are the

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same character names, well, all kinds of stuff.

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Like I'm gonna I'm gonna shock and most likely disappoint you.

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Here Jeffrey, and just say this, do is this wing?

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You tell me, you've never watched even one episode.

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I've never seen the West Wing. But am I am?

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I right in assuming that like maybe ninety percent of

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the cast of this movie is in the West Wing.

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Yes, it's a great thing that Aaron Sorkin does. You know,

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that's kind of become like the Aaron Sorkin players, And

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so you have these great supporting cast members, you know,

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like Anna Deavere Smith and Samantha David or Samantha Mathis,

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you know, all popping up on the West Wing. M

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h yeah, sometimes in regular roles, sometimes just a guest role.

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But I promise you I am going to be watching

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it this year. I'm gonna I'm gonna start it this

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year because after watching The American President, I'm just so

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in love with the characters. I'm so in love with

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the style of it. And I know Sorkin, you know,

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I know this walk so that the West Wing can run.

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So I'm definitely jumping into the West Wing this season.

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I can even give you like a starter list of

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episodes if you need to to help you get give.

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Me a little starter treks like the guys on Phaser

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sets that's done. That might help, That might help I'll

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tell you we gotta take a quick break here, but

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I'm already wondering maybe we should do an Aaron Sorkin

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episode in the near future. We could get away with

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that a film by Aaron. He writes, All right, Amber,

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put a pin in that. Let's put that on the schedule.

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But in the meantime, we will be back after these messages. Uh,

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and we're gonna talk about this cast. Welcome back. We

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are talking about Rob Reiners, the American President. Let's talk

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about President Andrew Sheppard played by Michael Douglas.

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So perfectly cast, like, so romantic, so sexy, like absolutely perfect.

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I want your thoughts on this here. Here's my take.

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This is the role that begins act too of Michael

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Douglas's career in my opinion, and I'm saying that because

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throughout the eighties and early nineties, this guy is a

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lock for the hero slash heart throb, slash steamy sex

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scene slash butt walk naked in the moonlight guy. But

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as Andrew Shephard, you know he's taking I feel like

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he's taking an age appropriate role. This is the first

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of many, right, He's no longer the guy that's gonna

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be seducing a woman and you know, gratuitous of sex,

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and you know he's finally he's coming into his own right,

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he's embracing middle age, even though he should have been

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doing it in like nineteen eighty nine.

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Right, Well, I mean, if you can get it, get it.

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And yeah, I mean I'm no, I'm not hating on him.

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He's awesome. I'm just saying like I feel like, but yeah,

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this is it's the first one, right.

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Yeah, he's kind of moving into that elder statesman Yes,

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you know, respected Hank pim Era.

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Yeah, this is where he's I mean, he's like a year,

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He's a year. He's a year removed from disclosure and

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basic instinct, you know, these edgy rules. I like seeing,

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like you said, the elder statesman version of Michael Douglas.

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I dig it. What do you think of President Shephard.

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Oh my gosh, love him. Love the way he's a

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completely different president than President Bartlett on the West Wing,

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which is very interesting. Yeah, as you watch Martin Sheen

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play his chief of staff and then Martin Sheen goes

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on to play President Bartlett on the West Wing, so

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you're looking to see, like, maybe Martin Sheen should have

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been president in this movie, but it would not have

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been the same movie. You know, Michael Douglas can bridge

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that gap between you know, the politics and the romance

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of this story, like so well.

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Let's uh, let's talk about his love interest. We're looking

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at Michelle Pfeiffer, We're looking at Susan Sarandon. Oddly enough,

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we're not looking at share I don't know why we

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didn't get the third Witch of Eastwick when we're looking

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at this role. But uh a, Nett Binning wins the

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role over everybody. This is she finally gets the chance

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to star opposite Douglas because as you were you will

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recall she had the role in Disclosure but had to

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drop out because she got pregnant. I think, and I

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think that's kind of a win for everybody because can

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you see a net Binning. You've seen the You've seen Disclosure, right, oh.

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Yeah, and read the book and felt like the movie

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was a really great adaptation of them.

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Yea, it's not. It's not a net Beinning though, No,

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Demi war is.

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She killed it?

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Yeah, killed it? Yeah?

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Great?

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Absolute, Yeah.

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But Anette Binning, I think Anette Benning again perfectly cast

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you know, There was also talk about Emma Thompson being

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in the movie, and I think that those other actresses,

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like they should have been the president. You're gonna put

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them in the movie. They they aren't the second you

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know star where I thinking at Betting is just enough

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softer that she is a great foil to him in

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this political position that she has that's you know, important,

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but you don't look at her and go, well, she

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should be president.

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So Sidney Ellen Wade, you know she's this, she's an

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environmental lobbyist. And to your point, like her being the

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perfect foil, they've got a real tracy Hepburn thing kind

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of happened, and I think, like I just yes, I

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love I mean it's crackling right, yes.

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And the cute, like the meat cute that they have

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is yeah, perfect.

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And also let's say about back and beat the shit

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out of him.

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It's a little slapsticky, but it just works. They just

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fizzle together.

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It works because again this is you know, this is

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designated as a comedy, a romantic comedy, but you need

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you need to believe in them and you have to

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have a little fun with them. And in those moments,

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I like, like the meat cute like you talked about,

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it's it's that's a very believable situation. I could see

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someone having a very awkward encounter like that in real life.

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And the way that he plays it off, it's it's

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it's a lot of fun. I love. I love what

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they're doing here, A net beinning solid choice for this

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role in my opinion.

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Well, and I've always said, like a good romantic comedy

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should be like a good glass of champagne. It should

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be like sparkly and fizzy and just makes you feel

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lightheaded and all the right ways. And you've got to

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have that that popping chemistry. And boy do they have it.

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Amber do you get lightheaded in all the right ways

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when you see Martin Sheen on the big screen. He's

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Aj McInnerny. He's the chief of staff McInerney, Thank you, mcinernie,

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the President's chief of staff. Sheen can do no wrong.

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I love him as this character, especially, like I said,

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knowing that he goes on to play President Bartlett on

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the West Wing and seeing him in this supporting role

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as the chief of staff, he is exactly the friend

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and the support that President Shepherd needs.

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Yeah, I love this is a very reserved performance for

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Martin Sheen, and I think that's one of the things

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that makes it so good because we're used to him

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being the leading man. We're used to him, we're used

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to him having a very commanding presence, and here he's

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doing a whole lot with very little. It's just sometimes

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it's just his facial expressions when people are speaking around him.

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I think this is one of his better performances in

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the last thirty whatever years.

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Yeah, I think it's fun to watch an actor that

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you know can be explosive and dynamic and see them

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do something subtle and restrained is fascinating.

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Now on the opposite end of the spectrum, we got

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Michael J. Fox as Lewis Rothschild.

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Oh my god, it's like the guy that Alex P.

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Keaton grew up to be. A political Thank you.

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I was I was gonna drop at Alex P. Keaton

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spot here and you help. No, I'm happy that you

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did it because, you know, because this I feel like

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Alex P. Keaton did grow up and become Lewis Rothschild.

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This is you know, like when you're young, you know

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you can be like passionately republican, and then you grow

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up and you experience more of the world and you're like,

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wait a minute, he's being more socially responsible.

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I love I love that Michael J. Fox is. He's bold,

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he's aggressive, he's loud in this movie, because that's not

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when you think of Michael J. Fox. You don't think

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of those.

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He gets one of the F bombs, Like, he gets

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one of them.

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We're gonna talk about that. Yeah, let's talk about him. Though,

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landing this role was a scary or deal for him,

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though he hadn't yet shared that he was living with Parkinson's.

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You know, the public didn't know that, and he was

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really worried that it would be revealed during the health

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screening for the film. But all in all was just

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a routine checkup for heart rate and blood pressure. So,

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you know, flew under the radar. And you know, he

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because he was on medication at that point, you know,

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for the the shake that he had in his left hand,

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but he was still very he was guarding this, you know.

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And if you think about it, it's after this movie

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that he does Spin City, and the producers, the creators

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of Spin City, created that role for him based on

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Lewis Rothschild. So talk about you know, you talked about

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this movie kind of creating the West Wing well in

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a way to create Spin City.

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I feel absolutely he.

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Based his performance on former White House communications director and

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political TV personality George Stephanopoulos. Yes, I mean, he's just anytime,

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anytime Fox is on the screen here in this movie,

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I'm just excited. I'm like, I'm like, I'm the Michael

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Jackson popcorn eating gift where I just can't wait to

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see what he's gonna do. I've seen enough times I

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know what he's gonna do. But he man, when he

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pops off, it's so much fun.

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Yeah, I love. One of the things I love about

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this movie and about the script is that everyone's so idealistic.

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And you know, there's a couple of characters that are

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a little more jaded, but most everybody. You know, Sidney

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when she gets to the White House, she's just exuberant

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with excitement because she's never been there before. Yeah, and

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you know, the woman that she's with us like, oh

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my god, I go to meetings here all the time.

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And Sidney doesn't care. She's like, no, this is cool.

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And Michael J. Fox's character is the same way. He's

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like this is all important, like he has no parameter

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for this thing is more important than that thing, Like

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it's all the most important things. And you love to

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think that the people representing us are that passionate.

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I'll tell you we're we're early end of this episode,

469
00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:22.319
and I know you and I are both gonna struggle

470
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:25.680
with how how often we quote the film? But it's

471
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:27.960
Aaron Sorkan, It's Aaron Sorkin. How are we not supposed

472
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:31.880
to quote it? Moving on? We we got you know,

473
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:33.799
we've got We've got our leading man, we got we

474
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:35.440
got a great four, we got a great leading lady.

475
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:40.200
You gotta have a villain. Richard Dreyfus playing Senator Senator

476
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:46.079
Bob Rumson. He is so comically fun in this movie

477
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:50.240
with his whole my name is Bob Rumbinson. I'm running

478
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:50.799
for president.

479
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.240
Well, and I never saw this coming. Like the first

480
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.480
time I saw the movie, you know, Dreyfus was, you know,

481
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:04.119
in his youth, like this very kind of passionate liberal artist,

482
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.480
you know, just so to see him play like this

483
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.599
republican devil, it's hilarious.

484
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:14.960
It's another Another thing that's weird is we're so used

485
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:20.440
to seeing Dreyfus as the fun leading guy. He's the

486
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:21.160
comedic guy.

487
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:24.960
He's he would be like the Michael J. Fox character

488
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.200
if he were younger, Like that's who he would have

489
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:28.079
ended up playing.

490
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:30.920
Yeah, he's always gonna make us laugh. But here he's

491
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:32.680
he's playing a bad guy. He's kind of dipping into

492
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:34.359
the villain territory.

493
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:36.960
Not that he's there and plays it like one straight

494
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.000
like it's all so good, there's nothing comedic about it.

495
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:43.519
Like he is very intense about how he feels. And

496
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:48.039
they don't let him off the hook with like anything

497
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:49.240
that makes him funny.

498
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:53.839
Yeah, he's he's he's a great he's a great adversary.

499
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:58.440
I'll give him that for Douglas. Yeah, listen, it's an

500
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:02.440
Aaron Sorkin Brier film. We could probably talk about another

501
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:06.000
forty people in depth, but we got to move on.

502
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:09.240
But uh, I just gotta throw this out here. I

503
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:11.200
know you're not gonna let me off the hook if

504
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:13.519
we don't mention him. If we talk about John Mahoney

505
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:14.559
for a quick minute.

506
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:19.359
His when his graph voice, Like the minute you hear it,

507
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.720
I was like, oh my god, it's like a hug

508
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:22.480
from Fraser.

509
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.240
Yes, and you know speaking of Fraser, it was it

510
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.400
was like this last watch I did, I'm like, oh wait,

511
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.920
hold on, there's Wendy Malick. We got Ronnie and and

512
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:38.640
Martin in this movie together. Yeah, Mahoney, I think we've

513
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:40.079
said this before, Amber, I think you and I have

514
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:43.519
said this before when we've mentioned John Mahoney in other films.

515
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.480
Anything that he's gonna do in the movie is gonna

516
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.599
elevate the movie. It's gonna make it a better movie.

517
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.480
You're gonna like the movie more because John Mahoney's in it.

518
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.440
Now watching these old character has some hard things to

519
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:58.440
say to Sydney. You know, she works for him and

520
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.880
this relationship with the president. You know, they've got a

521
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.079
deal to work through and they don't need this distraction,

522
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.920
and so they have some hard conversations. And I don't

523
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.680
think anybody else could have played it so well with

524
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:17.960
her and not come off just sounding like a condescending chauvinist.

525
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:18.920
Mm hmmm.

526
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:23.279
Yeah. He he's saying, he's saying things that we don't

527
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.680
want him to say. But but because he's John Mahoney,

528
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:26.640
he kind of gets away with it.

529
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.400
We're like, right, and you have to say, like, well,

530
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:30.480
he's not wrong.

531
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.839
He's not right. Yeah, it's like it basically, he's basically

532
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:35.640
he's given us the medicine. You don't want it. But

533
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:39.519
but we gotta, we gotta listen, let's talk about this film. Uh,

534
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.599
you know the background. Get let's get into some production here.

535
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:47.319
So we mentioned Robert Redford and Emma Thompson earlier amber.

536
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:49.920
They both dropped out of the film after Rob Reiner

537
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:54.200
was attached to direct. Redford said it was his intention

538
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:57.920
to make a romantic comedy, while Reiner wanted a focus

539
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:00.960
on politics. But it's also have been suggested that the

540
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:02.519
two have never got along.

541
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.039
Yeah. I mean, you know, not everybody has to like everybody.

542
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:09.839
But I think when you have two artists that are

543
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:14.240
really have a point of view. Mm hm, that's it's

544
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:19.279
tricky to make that collaboration work. I can see Redford

545
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.759
making a movie where like the fact that his character

546
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:24.000
was the president is like incidental.

547
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:26.880
I kind of see him thinking like, hey, I had

548
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:29.079
I had a good time on the candidate, and I

549
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.559
want I want more m right, But that's not the

550
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.000
that's not the film. That's not the film that Rob

551
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:35.680
Runner wants to do.

552
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:37.720
So and I would argue that that's not the film

553
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:39.039
that Aaron Sorkin wrote.

554
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:42.400
No, it's not. It honestly, isn't one thing that always

555
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.160
impresses me with this film and and some other film

556
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:46.720
I could, I could point out some others, but the

557
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.799
white House itself. The sets are incredible.

558
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:52.000
Right.

559
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.680
So, the white House set both East and West wings

560
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:01.160
built on the lot of Rob Render's Castle Rock Entertainment

561
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:04.960
in Culver City, and the set's oval office was also

562
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:10.000
used for the film's Nixon and Independence Day and Amber.

563
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:14.680
Speaking of Nixon again, white House looks amazing. But let's

564
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:19.119
not forget Camp David. The production designer actually used personal

565
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.039
snapshots of Camp David from the Nixon era to help

566
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.480
build the set, because famously, Camp David is off limits

567
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:28.759
to everybody, including the press.

568
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:29.920
Yeah, no one knows.

569
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.759
No one knows could look like Wayne manor We're not

570
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:37.519
gonna We're not gonna know. I gotta ask you the

571
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:39.960
telephone number that that President Shepherd gives Sidney to call

572
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.839
him back. Have you ever called that? Have you ever

573
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:43.200
tried it?

574
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:44.799
I have not. I know it's the real number.

575
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:45.839
It's the real number.

576
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.720
It's the actual number. I will say this. I have

577
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:51.279
to give a shout out to my dad. I can

578
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.559
remember being in second grade and wanting to write a

579
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:58.079
letter to the president. Yeah, and my parents were like, yeah,

580
00:31:58.079 --> 00:31:59.799
you can do that. Anybody can write to the president.

581
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:01.839
And I said, well, how do I find out what

582
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.480
the address is? And my dad just spouted out sixteen

583
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.759
hundred Pennsylvania Avenue and I was like, Oh, my dad

584
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:14.440
knows everything. Like I was so impressed. Yeah, it's like,

585
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.079
I know the phone number two, Like what do you

586
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.319
want for it? And I just thought, oh my god,

587
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.400
he's a genius. I didn't realize it was like something

588
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:22.240
everybody could have.

589
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.079
Yeah, well, as we said it today is in fact

590
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:27.920
inauguration day. Listeners, if you want to call the White

591
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.119
House at area code two O two four five six

592
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:34.640
one four one four and give any opinions you have,

593
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.720
go ahead, go right ahead, Uh, Amber, I hope I

594
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.000
didn't just get us in trouble with the Secret Service

595
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:40.440
doing that.

596
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.680
Moving on switchboards, Like what back?

597
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.880
Moving on? Speaking of trouble, Amber, this this is a

598
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.519
PG thirteen rated film. We all know when it's rated

599
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:54.480
PG thirteen you are allowed the use of the word

600
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:59.319
fuck only once. This film got away with it three times.

601
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:03.720
Three times, and they're why placed?

602
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.640
They are perfectly placed? Can tell Can you tell the

603
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.000
listeners though, why they got why this movie gets away

604
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:10.759
with it? Do you happen to know that information?

605
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.599
No, I don't. I just figured it was because, like

606
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.799
you couldn't deny where they were placed. And I think

607
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.960
also it wasn't in like a sexual term.

608
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.160
You you advanced at the head of the class. The

609
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.759
reason this movie gets to use the word three different

610
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.519
times is because at no point is it used in

611
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:35.160
a sexual context. So there you go. Kids, You can

612
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.160
say it often, just don't say it in the wrong situation.

613
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:44.359
I know you probably have plenty of scenes that you know,

614
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.880
just lift your spirits here. I want to talk about

615
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:48.759
four because we got to talk about some noteworthy scenes.

616
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:50.160
We got to talk about what we feel is the

617
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:50.839
pivotal moment.

618
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.960
I mean, for me, this movie boils down to actually

619
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:56.279
just one scene.

620
00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:00.160
But I think, okay, so I think you and I

621
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.200
are on the same page. We got to have the

622
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:06.839
same pivotal moment. But let's talk about the shepherd calling

623
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:12.000
Sydney for a date. First time. You got playful banter,

624
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.440
excellent chemistry. I am all in on this couple at

625
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:16.159
this point.

626
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.840
And I love my favorite part. I get her so

627
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.679
well the minute like he asks her out and she accepts,

628
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:25.599
and then all of a sudden she lets have this

629
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.480
nervous giggle and she goes, what do I do? Like

630
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.719
where do I go? And like that is one hundred

631
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.840
percent where my mind would have gone, like complete logistics.

632
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.400
Well, it's just like when the phone call though, like

633
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:43.000
when we talked about like that that Spencer Tracy chemistry.

634
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.679
I love how she's like, oh, you're the president. He's like, yeah,

635
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.719
this is this isn't George.

636
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:49.960
Yeah, because like how do you even have my number?

637
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.280
Yeah? That's not Maybe I should tell you how that

638
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.239
you actually have a nice ass and you know, oh,

639
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:55.800
by the way, how you call me when this is

640
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:58.320
in my place? I don't have a phone number. It's like,

641
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:03.239
you know, I call the It's it's it's such a

642
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.320
fun It's just it's such a fun moment. And after that,

643
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.199
like that little meet cute. I love that. I love

644
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.000
that that expression you dropped on me, uh, that little

645
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.039
meet cue that they have at the beginning of the film.

646
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.400
This this takes that and just elevates it and just

647
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:19.639
keeps it going, keeps that fun, keeps that that that

648
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.000
energy going. It's a great moment. I love that scene.

649
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.079
I'll tell you, I'm not saying it's the pivotal moment,

650
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:29.480
but it might be my favorite scene. And it's because

651
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.719
it's the best moment for Martin Sheen's character. Uh, can

652
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:36.679
we talk about Shepherd and Aj plain pool where you know,

653
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:40.239
he's he's behind, he's he's not got the second time, yeah,

654
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:40.880
the second time.

655
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:42.960
Yeah, they play pooled twice, and the first time it's

656
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.199
just kind of a banter, but the second time they're

657
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:48.079
really having like a best friend moment.

658
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:51.960
They're having like that best friend moment where Sheen, you know,

659
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.079
I should say AJ has to remember he's talking to

660
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.840
the president, but he's also talking to my my buddy.

661
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.360
And you know, Douglas as Shepherd, this is like the

662
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.199
one time in the movie where he kind of gnashes

663
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.519
his teeth and it's a little nasty towards someone that

664
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.440
we like. And you know, the whole house of you

665
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:09.960
from the cheap seats lined in.

666
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:12.039
The iiO is two steps behind me.

667
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:14.000
And you think you're wrong.

668
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.199
I don't think you went elections by telling fifty nine

669
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:17.960
percent of the people that they are we fight the

670
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.119
fights we can win you fight the fights that need fighting?

671
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:23.880
Is have you pretty good from the cheap seats? Aj?

672
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:26.800
I beg you far because.

673
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:28.480
It occurs to me that in twenty five.

674
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.400
Years, I've never seen your name un a Ballance.

675
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:31.280
Now why is that?

676
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.199
Why are you always one step behind me?

677
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:36.719
Because if I wasn't, you'd be the most popular history

678
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.440
professor at the University of Wisconsin.

679
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:45.199
You aj with that retort. Yeah, because if I wasn't,

680
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.760
you'd be the most popular history teacher at the University

681
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.760
of Wisconsin. M hm, damn. I mean and what do

682
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:54.159
you how do you come back from that?

683
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:54.440
You know?

684
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:57.440
Yeah, we get fuck you? I guess that's all you say?

685
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.079
Like that again, like you said, well place like that's

686
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.000
that's everybody in an argument, a heated argument when you

687
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:10.519
can't top the person you're you're because they said to

688
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:12.719
your head, they said that, they said it, and it's

689
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:14.800
the best moment, Like you can't there's no coming back

690
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:16.719
from it, and but you still have that anger and

691
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.519
you just have to express it. Yeah, great moment for

692
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.239
for the two of them go, I mean both of

693
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.039
them going toe to toe. There are no losers in

694
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:29.159
that scene. Love that one. Uh. We talked about the

695
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:34.079
Lewis Rothschild though, getting getting a little little froggy here

696
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.039
and there, you know, kind of kind of speaking out

697
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:39.519
of line. How about uh, how about Louis Rothschild calling

698
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.000
out the president in the O full office, you know

699
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.719
kind of question and AJ, you know, the president doesn't

700
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:49.320
answer to you, Lewis, And again Sorkin is just giving

701
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:53.360
everyone plenty to work with. Uh you know what Uh

702
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:55.280
I got. I actually wrote this one down because I

703
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.239
love it, and in the conviction in Michael J. Fox's voice,

704
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:00.360
in his in his face when he's like, oh, yes

705
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.000
he does, AJ, I'm an American citizen. This is my president,

706
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:06.639
and in this country it is not only permissible to

707
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.400
question our leaders, it's our responsibility. Fucking sork And just

708
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:13.800
swinging for the fences there, Yes, And you know what's

709
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:15.880
funny when you think about that. It's such an amazing

710
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.920
moment for Michael J. Fox's character, but it's it's also

711
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:26.840
funny because he's not an American citizen. Right, yeah, yeah,

712
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.280
all right, I got one more scene I want to

713
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:32.840
talk about, and in my opinion, it is the pivotal

714
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:36.199
moment of this film. This is this is the what

715
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.480
We're what it's leading to this whole film. It's Shepherd's

716
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.760
final speech. Yes, this is Is this the pivotal moment Amber?

717
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:47.320
Oh yeah, okay, I had to drive on for myself.

718
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:49.000
This is the moment.

719
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:50.239
Sorry, you get three.

720
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:56.519
This is the moment in a romantic comedy where like

721
00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:58.960
the man should be standing in the rain telling the

722
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.039
woman how much he loves it, or.

723
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:03.440
You know, Doddler's gonna hold the boom box up.

724
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:06.159
Yeah, it's it's Billy Crystal showing up at the New

725
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:10.280
Year's party, you know, and telling Meg Ryan how wonderful

726
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:16.000
she is. Like, it's that moment, only it's not just

727
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.840
him standing up for Sydney. It's him standing up for

728
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.880
all of us. And he's saying everything that you want

729
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.280
your president to say, standing up for all the things

730
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:28.639
you want him to stand up for.

731
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.840
We've got serious problems to solve, and we need serious

732
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:34.639
people to solve them. I don't care who that person

733
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.840
is saying that. I'm following them like that. That's the

734
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:41.199
you have my sword and my shield moment, like I

735
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:45.320
you know, I will back whoever that person is. Uh,

736
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:46.880
this is you know, and this is I love this

737
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:50.079
moment because, like you said, he's he's addressing Rumson's attacks

738
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.519
on his character. He's defending Sydney's you know, you want

739
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.320
a character debate, Bob, you better stick with me because

740
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:59.440
Sydney is way out of your league, you know. And

741
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.519
then the just the perfect that you know we've heard

742
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.719
the whole time, Like Bob Rumson is just he's he's

743
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:06.760
on the campaign trail and he's like, my name is

744
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.559
Bob Robinson and I'm running for president and we have

745
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:13.079
waited for this retort where he's where Douglas gives the line,

746
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.840
you know, my name is Andrew Sheppard and I am

747
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:16.679
the president.

748
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:19.800
It's like he's saying, I'm Batman.

749
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:24.599
Yeah, it's a mike. It's one of the greatest mic

750
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:28.519
drop moments in a movie because again it's like, there's

751
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.920
no coming back from that. Yeah, I absolutely love it. Amber.

752
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.639
Let's let's settle down with one more break and then

753
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:43.079
we'll come back. We'll start wrapping this thing up. Welcome back, Amber.

754
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:51.400
If someone happened to be unfamiliar with Rob Reiner, Rob

755
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.960
Rander the director, Let's let's let's say that Rob Ryder

756
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.360
the director, which three films would you suggest they watch?

757
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:01.360
This is one of the toughest ones we've ever done.

758
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:05.559
It's like agonizing, do you do you?

759
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.360
Did you do? You? Did you? Are you shooting from

760
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.440
the hip? Do you do some deep dive researching? Like

761
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:11.480
you don't know.

762
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.039
I'm just kinda I mean, I made like a quick list.

763
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:16.920
Okay, you only get three.

764
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:20.199
This is like I thought the Mike Nichols one was hard,

765
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.480
and this is like ten times worse.

766
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.920
You struggled on the Mike Nichols episode.

767
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:30.320
I did, it was awful, But I have to.

768
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:33.159
Say that let's go with the first one.

769
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.039
The great thing about Rob Reiner is you can kind

770
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:40.199
of pick like he's got these that are roman At

771
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:45.599
comedies and these that are more serious, intense movies, you know,

772
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.480
so you can kind of split them off if you

773
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:52.800
want to do it that way. I went by just

774
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.159
my absolute favorites.

775
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:57.440
It's not a bad that's not a bad way to

776
00:41:57.440 --> 00:41:59.400
do it. What's what's the first one? Let's let's let's

777
00:41:59.400 --> 00:41:59.840
slow down.

778
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.920
So it's going to go from I think like least

779
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.519
favorite to most favorite, even though they're all the favorite

780
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:11.360
first one is a few good Men whose other collaboration

781
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:12.280
with Aaron Sorkin.

782
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:14.599
So let's talk. Let's talk about a Few good Men,

783
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:18.199
you know, written by Aaron Sorkin. This is one that

784
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:22.320
I would suggest. So we're we're, we are simpatico here

785
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:24.679
amazing performances.

786
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:29.039
Amazing performances. It's based on a play that Aaron Sorkin wrote.

787
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:35.440
The whole language is perfect, and you know, translating a

788
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.079
play to film can be really tricky, and Rob Reiner

789
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.280
does it impeccably.

790
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:44.239
I have plenty to say about a Few good Men. However,

791
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:48.920
I will just direct the listeners to our top five

792
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:53.920
courtroom films that we did last season. Our Patreon producer

793
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.800
and good friend James Buckley joined me for that one.

794
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:58.960
A Few good Men was on both our lists. We

795
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.039
had plenty to say about that. Go back, listeners, go

796
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.920
back check that one out. That is an awesome episode

797
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.199
if you like courtroom dramas. And if you do like

798
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.199
courtroom dramas, I can't imagine a Few good Men is

799
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.800
not on your list. But uh, Amer, for sure movie

800
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:14.239
number two that you're gonna recommend, in.

801
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:18.000
My opinion, the most perfect romantic comedy of all time,

802
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:19.199
When Harry met Sally.

803
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:24.239
That is an accurate statement. I think. I think it

804
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.199
is the number one romantic comedy of all time. God,

805
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:29.239
I mean it's like it's the most quotable, it's the

806
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:32.840
most likable, it's the most it's just the most most.

807
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:35.639
Right, Yes, it's just all the things all.

808
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:38.320
Great choice, great choice. Do you have a favorite scene

809
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.320
on that real quick? Is it the rest of the

810
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.280
scene or do you have do you have something different?

811
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:46.159
No, that one's pretty funny, but no, my the scene

812
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:49.559
that I quote all the time is when Jess and

813
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.360
Marie are moving in together and Harry just seen his

814
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.119
ex wife at Sharper Image, so he's all like in

815
00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.480
his emotions and yeah, he finally looks are you in

816
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:04.360
over this coffee table? And he looks at him and goes, Jesse, Marie,

817
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:08.639
do yourself as a favor for me, put your names

818
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:11.440
in your books right now before they get mixed up

819
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:13.599
and you don't know who's his who's because sooner or

820
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.800
later you guys are gonna be going fifteen rounds over

821
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.320
who's gonna get this coffee table. It's stupid, Roy Rogers Wagon,

822
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.519
real garage, the coffee table.

823
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:27.199
Well done, Amber, all right, it's open, Mike Night, I

824
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:32.760
love it, all right. A few good men. When Harry

825
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.440
met Sally, which is not one of my recommendations, but

826
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:40.159
I'm ready to go watch it based on your your, your, your,

827
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.079
your impression. There you get one more. What's the last

828
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:45.800
movie you're gonna recommend to someone who has it seen?

829
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:49.280
I know, Rob, you gotta say it. Go ahead and

830
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:50.400
say by me is his?

831
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:54.800
You know, magnum Opus. But it's actually The Princess Bride.

832
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:56.480
That's not the wrong answer.

833
00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:00.960
It's late The Princess Bride. Is they each It's like

834
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:05.480
the most perfect movie, like there is nothing wrong with it.

835
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:09.440
It is absolutely beautiful. The Princess Bride is always the answer.

836
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:11.840
If you want to watch an action adventure, you want

837
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:13.679
to watch a comedy, you want to watch a love story,

838
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.599
you want to watch what you want watch a scary movie,

839
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.679
you want to watch a fantasy, the answer is to

840
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:23.000
Princess Bride. It's yes, it's such a beautiful film and

841
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:28.679
it's timeless. It's so good. It is so very good. Yes, yeah,

842
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.280
I would love to talk about that in depth one time.

843
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.800
You know, at some point, did you know, uh, Carrie

844
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.440
always his fencing when he went to train to be

845
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.480
to learn the sword fight, he got so good that

846
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:44.719
they actually use that film now to teach fencing to people.

847
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:48.199
I do to that because I read his book and

848
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:53.480
his book is amazing. But my favorite story is that

849
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:59.079
Mandy Patinkin, who plays a Nigo Montoya, is famously irascible

850
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:02.599
and kind of hard to get along with these very passionate,

851
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.159
intense guy But if anyone comes up to him and

852
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.360
asks him, he will tell you to close your eyes

853
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:13.199
so you get the full effect, and he will say, hello,

854
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.679
my name is a Nigo Montoya. You killed my father

855
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:18.239
prepared to die.

856
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:25.440
Who is the Princess Bride? A perfect film? It is

857
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:27.840
is if I asked you, like, hey, you can take

858
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.639
one person out of the Princess Bride and then replace them.

859
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.480
You can put someone else in. You wouldn't want to

860
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:37.559
recast anybody in that film. No, I wouldn't want to

861
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.159
cut any scenes. I wouldn't want to add any scenes.

862
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:44.159
It is just a flawless film. Yeah, and it's so quotable.

863
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.960
It's so quotable. And I'm not talking about just like

864
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:51.920
the the go to quotes, like when people are complaining

865
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.679
about how much they've got to do, I'll go Christopher

866
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.679
Guest ONOK, like, well, you know, if you don't have

867
00:46:57.719 --> 00:46:59.199
your health do you have?

868
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:03.719
You know, my son and I every time we play

869
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.960
a Lego game and you have a moment where the

870
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:10.639
character is like searching on the ground and like following

871
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:14.920
a path. Yeah, say, okay, I bet my life.

872
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:21.400
There was a mighty do I love Billy Crystal to blathe,

873
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:28.239
which means to bluff. He's a liar. Yeah, perfect, perfect movie.

874
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:30.960
You have anyone that's not familiar with with rober Or

875
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.079
you would have to say, start with the Princess Bride.

876
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:35.880
I think, yeah, that sets the stage and then you're happy,

877
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.360
like you're like, I don't care what's next because it's

878
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:46.360
I'm I'm satisfied. But amber very impressive. Three films we

879
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:49.679
agree on two. You're suggesting when Harry met Sally, which

880
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.559
is not a bad call at all. But I've got

881
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.800
to go with the magnum Opus. That is stand by me.

882
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:59.239
Yes, I mean too film.

883
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:01.920
It's so good. Yeah, I mean, there's no wrong answers here.

884
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.000
There really isn't. No. I mean, I'll tell you right now.

885
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.679
I was on the fence for a minute the other

886
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:15.320
day because Misery is just so damn good, an amazing adaptation.

887
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:16.360
I don't know if you've I don't know if you've

888
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:17.199
ever read King's.

889
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.079
Books, but many times.

890
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:25.840
The you know, Kathy Bates, Jimmy Kahn. I mean, damn, what.

891
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:28.719
He got two people in one room to do with

892
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:32.039
that movie is amazing, amazing.

893
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:34.440
I wish I wish we could have more than three films.

894
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:35.960
I wish we could suggest like five.

895
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.119
I know, right, well, then that would be my whole list.

896
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:41.519
That's the rules though, you know, but you know what,

897
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:44.360
I think our listeners get the idea. I would hope

898
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:47.039
that someone has seen all these films and a lot

899
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:47.920
more of his stuff he's got.

900
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.920
I mean, they haven't even gone into like this spinal tap.

901
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.719
Well he's doing this is like this is spinal tap two.

902
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:56.199
I think they I think they just wrapped on it.

903
00:48:56.239 --> 00:49:00.719
I think there. I think this year, I'm gonna get

904
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:02.800
out my Smell the Glove record and get ready for

905
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:09.800
that one. Uh amber no, no, uh no. Mystery here

906
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:13.119
on how we feel about the American President. It's a

907
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.920
solid blend of romance, comedy, politics. It's ideal for date night.

908
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.239
It's ideal for just watching it, you know, with a

909
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:23.679
glass of wine or champagne, as you as you said earlier, Yes,

910
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:29.599
so it it just left Max like days ago. Uh So,

911
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:31.320
I would say, if you're wanting to catch this one,

912
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:32.719
you know, look for it to pop up on one

913
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:34.920
of the other streamers. But in the meantime, you can

914
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:36.559
always rent it. It's on demand. You can find it

915
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:38.719
on Amazon, Prime, Google, YouTube.

916
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:41.119
It's yourself a favor. Just buy a copy.

917
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:45.400
There you go. You'll watch people ones, you will, you

918
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:50.360
absolutely will. But listeners, what do you think of Rob

919
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:53.800
Renders the American President? Have you seen this one? Do

920
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:55.920
we get this one wrong? You can let us know

921
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:58.880
on social media. You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, and

922
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.960
x You can check out a Film by Podcast dot

923
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:05.679
com for all the episodes that are streaming free on

924
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.960
the platform of your choice. The entire library is there,

925
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:12.159
Amber six. We're in season six, you know, so I

926
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.599
can't believe it plenty for you there. You can always

927
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.599
write to us at a Film by Podcast at gmail

928
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.760
dot com with your questions, comments and concerns. I'll tell

929
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.840
you what you do that we will read your response

930
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.519
on the show and send you some of a film

931
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:29.199
by swag. Speaking of that on our Patreon, Ben Handel

932
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:31.920
like we we had, we put that little bonus content

933
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:35.119
for our top ten of the twenty twenties. Yes, yeah.

934
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:36.599
He was like, Hey, I'm glad that you guys put

935
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:40.679
the holdovers on the list, and I was thinking, we didn't.

936
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:44.400
You listeners did. If you haven't listened to our our

937
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:48.199
top ten of the twenty twenties, which was led by

938
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:52.400
our very own Andrew Blakeley, that's not our list that

939
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:54.239
we're just we're just reading it.

940
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:56.440
Literally, nothing on my list made.

941
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:58.599
It, nothing on your list made it, even even like

942
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:00.840
the like the top twenty when we did like the

943
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:03.360
eleven through twenty on Patreon, something had to make it.

944
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:05.559
Oh I didn't listen to that one yet. I need

945
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:06.880
to listen to eleven through twenty.

946
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.840
Amber has got to get on our Patreon just like

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all of you that have not yet checked it out.

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There's exclusive episodes, there's a lot of fun, and if

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you're not just all the way ready, you can always

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sign up for free because there are several free episodes

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just to give you just a taste of what to expect. Amber.

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As always, I want to thank you.

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Oh it's my pleasure. This was such a delightful episode.

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Yeah, we got you know, fun, you know, like I said,

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it had its comedic moments, but I think we get

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a little bit more. I think we're taking a little

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bit more of a comedic turn. Next week we got

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blue Collar, right Richard Prior, I'm excited. Listen, have you

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seen this one? I have not seen it.

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No, I don't watch it.

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So we got a first time watch for both of us.

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Which turned out really good with the Northman so more.

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Yeah, we'll get into more of that one next week.

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Until then, to all of you listening to the show,

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following us on social media, and subscribing to our patroon,

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we thank you.