Ron Howard: Night Shift

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Quick question for you, Amber,
the world's oldest profession. Your quick take?

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Is it right? Is it wrong? Should it be legal? Should

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it be illegal? I think that
there's no way for it to exist without

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women being taken advantage of, So
I'm pretty much against it. I think

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that it really only leads to further
sub subjugation of women. So well,

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let's try to talk about it in
on a lighter note. Let's talk about

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it. Let's talk about a film
by Ron Howard, his nineteen eighty two

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underrated comedy classic night Shift. Hello
everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson and I'm Amber

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Lewis, and this is a film
by podcast Welcome back. We have got

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We've got a pretty fun one to
talk about today, talking about Ron Howard's

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directorial debut. Amber. But for
those that maybe it's been a while since

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they've seen the movie night Shift,
or maybe they've never seen it, can

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you give us a little little heads
up on what this movie is all about.

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The film centers on a timid night
shift Morgue employee whose life is turned

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upside down by a new coworker who
fancies himself a free spirited entrepreneur and a

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prostitute who turns to them for help. In the style of movies in the

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early eighties, prostitution becomes money making
scheme and works out well for everybody.

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It's amazing how well the brothel prostitution
scheme worked out in the early days.

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I mean, you got you got
night Shift, which gives way to movies

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like Risky Business and Doctor Detroit like
this was. I was thinking also of

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trading places where you know, Jamie
Lee Curtis was like, this is my

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five year plan. Yeah, she
had a plan, right, you know,

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she was investing and being smart with
her cash. And yeah, I

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mean even you know, we we
run this, this play all the way

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through the decade. I think,
all the way up to Night nineteen ninety

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when we get Pretty Woman. I
mean it's it's Hollywood's let us know,

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like, hey, you know,
you can as a prostitute. You can

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make good money and retire early.
And it's if only that, if only

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that were the case. But and
but let's talk about first. So,

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as we said, this is Ron
Howard's directorial debut. It's his first of

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many successful collaborations with producer Brian Grazer. It's Michael Keaton's first starring role and

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the film is musically framed with That's
what Friends Are For, which is the

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first recorded version by Rod Stewart,
and that one kind of blew my mind.

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Yeah, that the fact that that
song is threaded through this entire movie.

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Yeah, well, you know,
you get Burt Bacherak's instrumental version,

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and I'm like, Okay, at
any any any day now we're gonna hear

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Dion Worwick and Elton John. That
was the song that wouldn't die like it

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was. It was number one for
like like three weeks or something like that.

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Yeah, And amazingly enough, a
couple of years earlier we get we

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get the Stewart version when this when
that when that song started at the beginning,

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at the end of the movie,
I was like, it's Rod,

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where's everybody? So right? A
lot of first in this, Yeah,

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I mean, when you look at
Night Shift, you gotta you gotta say

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like this was kind of like the
origin for a lot of a lot of

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people in the business like to be
successful. I think yes, And I

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uh have to say, I didn't
enjoy this one as much as my twenty

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three year old son did, So
I think that there's a demographic issue there

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well, yeah, I mean,
but I was able to appreciate what I

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watched a second time and appreciating,
like, the things that make a Ron

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Howard movie mm hmm are already starting
with this first you know, feature film

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that he did. Yeah, and
and you know, to your point,

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unexpected, it had been years and
years since I've seen this, so I

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completely forgot about it. But definitely
some gratuitous nudity that maybe we don't necessarily

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need for a movie like this kind
of it kind of like I'm watching like,

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whoa, this is Ron Howard,
you know, because this movie feels

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a lot like Tom Hanks and Bachelor
Party. I was just gonna say,

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it's that like genre of early eighties
Porky's and Bachelor Party and what was it

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Losing It where they lose it with
Tijuana or something? Yeah, with Shelley

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Long. Yes, yeah, she's
that the same year. So so yeah,

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there were a lot of a lot
of naked chess in the early eighties.

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I can understand why your twenty three
year old son would would would be

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okay with that, you know,
well, and he thought it was funny,

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Like there were a couple of parts
where I laughed out loud but he

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was cracking out through the whole thing. So yeah, well let's talk about

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some of these some of these cast
members. Henry Winkler as Chuck Lumley.

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You know, you talked about this
this guy in your synopsis. He's definitely

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not who you're expecting, you know, you know Amber, if you're like

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me, you know, when we're
little kids, I remember growing up watching

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like reruns of Happy Days, you
know, Niked Knight and stuff like that,

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and Phonsie was like he was the
tough guy, he was the cool

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guy. And here Winkler is playing
the exact opposite of what we what we're

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accustomed to. Yeah, that was
very shocking. When the movie first started,

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I was like, what is even
happening? Like I didn't think Henry

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Winkler could be uncool, Yeah,
neurotic and dorky. Like he's such a

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he's such a whimp too. He's
like so emasculated by like his his fiance,

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his boss, everyone in his world. Like he's you know, to

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the point like every time he orders
a Samway take out sandwich, he always

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gets it wrong, and he's just
like, well I don't want to make

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him mad. It's like it's like
what happened? Fonsie like this is this

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is not the Fonds, you know, and hats off to him because he's

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actually he's filming I think it's the
ninth season of Happy Days Monday through Wednesday

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and then shooting the film Thursday through
Saturday. So he's stepping back and forth

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in these worlds and uh. And
Ron Howard even gave him the choice in

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the beginning. He's like, hey, you know, you can play either

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one of these characters. And he
purposely chooses not to play the cool guy.

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I like that though, yet exactly
exactly, and he stretches big time

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in this and it's it's funny because
like when you watch older Ron Howard,

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like if you're a fan of Arrested
Development, where you see or Barry,

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where you see like this, this
kind of softer, not cool Henry Winkler.

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I think like the origin of that
is Chuck Clumley. That's where that's

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where we first get our not cool
character. He had it in him.

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I'll tell you, he's really got
it in him. Michael Keaton as Bill

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Blaize jos Jowski. You know,
just everyone calls me Blaze. So this

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is a pretty much this is practically
an unknown Michael Keaton. He beats out

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Kurt Russell and Mickey Work for the
role. Now just let's stop and think

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about it a second. Where Kurt
Russell, I can't, I can't for

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life me see Mickey Work playing uh
playing Bill. But Kurt Russell, that

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was an American graffiti connection, like
yeah in that room. Yeah, but

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Kurt Russell, we're talking like a
like a best of times used cars.

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Kurt Russell. Yeah, he definitely
could have done this role justice I think.

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I mean, I love Kurt Russell, so yeah, I totally would

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have gone there. But the funny
thing is I hadn't actually seen this movie,

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but I had heard of it,
and wait, so this is the

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first time watch Yeah, oh wow, okay, yeah right, but this

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movie and like Mister Mom and Beatlejuice, like those were everybody's connection to Michael

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Keaton, and watching this, I
was flashing back to nineteen eighty nine when

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everybody was like, what is happening? How can he be Batman? Like

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this is ridiculous. This movie is
gonna be garbage. I think it's fair

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to say the comedic timing and the
lovable charisma that he displays in this movie.

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It's our first look at Michael Keaton
as a bankable comedy star and at

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you know, you were saying like, I think Mister Mom nineteen eighty three,

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Johnny Dangerously nineteen eighty four, we
covered that one on this on this

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show down six we covered Yeah,
we covered that one on our nineteen six

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series. Beatlejuice in nineteen eighty eight, and then he blows everyone's minds in

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nineteen eight nine when he he becomes
the Dark Knight. Yeah, but it

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was so cool to watch in this
movie like he's just pure id oh gosh,

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and to see it like just start
to you know, go on that

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upward trajectory was you could see like, oh, this guy's gonna gonna do

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it. Yeah, And you watch
this and just the the the excitement he

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has around everybody. You know,
it's almost like he's a he's a puppy

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running running loose and just wanting to
jump on everyone, lick everybody. He's

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what's the everyone's best friend immediately and
he you know, he I mean this

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this role, he turns it up
to eleven, I think, and I

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love it. I read that he
made Henry Winkler uncomfortable. Really, Yeah,

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what's what's the what's the what's the
story here? It was he was

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there's not a lot of like production
history that you can look up on no

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on this movie. There's not a
lot around. But Henry Winkler did say

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in an interview that he his offbeat
timing and and this energy level and everything

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was just really pushed him out of
his comfort zone. And Ron Howard was

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like, that's why I cast him, because he's going to keep you wrong

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footed, like the whole time.
And and I think that's one of the

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things that Ron Howard does so well
is picking those people that that have that

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chemistry, whether it's really good chemistry
or that kind of awkward chemistry, that

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still works for the character. It
seems like it seems like Henry Winkler has

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a lot to say in interviews.
I know there's something I want to touch

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base here in a second, but
before I do, let's let's talk about

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a different Keaton. Let's talk about
Shelley Long playing the role of Belinda Keaton.

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She's the prostitute in this. She
gets cast after Howard and graz Ares

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here in Caveman the year before that, that weird Caveman comedy with Ringo Starr

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and Dennis Quaid. Did you ever
see that one? Have no knowledge of

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this. I'm not saying to go
out, and I'm not saying rush out

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and see it, but I mean
the fact that ringoes in it doesn't really

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bells for you know, they me, I'm thinking, but yeah, well,

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I mean, you know, think
about this though. Two months after

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night Shift's release, she lands the
role of Diane Chambers on Cheers. So

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this is kind of like this movie
is kind of like her. She's made

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it and I loved her. I
loved her on chairs, I loved all

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her crazy eighties movies, like The
Money ped is one of my favorite movies

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ever in life, Like I will
laugh until I cry, I'll shame less.

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Plug it again. That was actually
the first movie we did for our

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nineteen eighty six series, and it's
crazy to listen to it now because it

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was only like thirty minutes long,
and it wasn't you know, we didn't

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know what we wanted that show to
be yet. So it's you know,

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Dave's talking to me before, like
we should revisit that, do it like

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a redo, and I was like, yeah, maybe I think we might

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have to, But but I have
a feeling. I know that Henry Winkler

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story you're gonna tell because this guy. Yeah. Now, Famously, a

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lot of her Cheers co stars have
said they didn't enjoy working with her,

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and Winkler's got more to say.
It's twenty nineteen. On a TV interview,

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I don't know if you heard this
one, they asked him who was

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his most annoying co star, and
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And the reason why is that shell
while filming this movie, she would

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stand in the frame wrong and that
made her look like she was taller than

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him. That's his that's his great. Now, keep this in mind,

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they're both five ft six, so
oh really, I was saying, I

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would think she would be taller than
he is because he's not a tall guy.

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I mean, you know, that's
that's so much fun? Was he

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was like the coolest guy in the
room. But is shirty. I think

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she's kind of a when when you
talk comedic actresses in the eighties and and

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nineties to that degree, I think
she's very much underrated, Like you don't

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quickly know it's quick to say Shelley
Long and maybe they should. Yeah,

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definitely those movies in the eighties,
like she was on fire. She's got

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she's got a lot of friends in
this film. Obviously we talked about you

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know, these guys they work,
they're working at the New York City Morgue

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and they get the idea to turn
it into a brothel. So she brings

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along her friends. So, uh, I got a couple of names here

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for you, and I want to
see see if these uh if these jog

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your memory at all? So these
Ladies of the Night. Jade Barrymore makes

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her film debut in this Oh that's
Drew's mom. Drew's mom. Yeah,

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and uh, speaking of that,
another film debut. Uh, Monique Gabrielle.

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You recognize that name. She's probably
not making movies that that would appeal

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to you. Uh. You know, the first time I saw her was

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actually return a Swamp thing. Oh
wow, you original. I'm not going

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to watch a sequel. Well,
and you've sell you know, and I

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know you've seen her because uh you
Bachelor Party. So if you remember that,

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if you remember the moment when Tom
Hanks is in the bedroom and he's

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tempted by the brunette. Now I
remember very I only saw it a couple

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of times, and I remember him
playing tennis and yeah, hitting the ball.

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Well, you know, she she's
famous. She did a lot of

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movies that you'd probably enjoy late night
on Showtime or cinematics. And then I'm

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gonna throw this name at you.
Oola Ray is also one of the Oh

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okay, we got we got a
winner here. Yes, she played she

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played Michael Jackson's girlfriend and Thriller.
She ever did anything else. She's one

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of the prostitutes. How about that? Dang? Yeah now thriller video.

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Oh now, I got watch the
movie again and look for Yeah, she's

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there, because I was like,
she looks familiar, and then doing a

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little homework, I was like,
oh, how about that. That's crazy.

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Well, speaking of crazy, the
two cameos. I I sent this

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to you earlier because I'm but I
have one for you though too that I

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don't know. Oh okay, maybe
I missed. Okay, so let's talk

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about the ones I did see.
Uh So this is kind of like a

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before they were famous. The girl
scout that you know, instigates beating the

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crap out of Henry Winkler in the
elevator. It's like a what like a

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ten year old Shannon Doherty. Yeah, she's so like chubby cheeked and like

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like a baby, so cute and
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girl Scout cookies and then like the
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was like, Wow, that's that's
Shannon Doherty. That's so funny. She

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goes from this movie to voicing one
of the little baby mice in Secret of

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Nim. Yeah, same year,
right, So if I'm not mistaken,

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this is her first on screen role, and then like Secret and Nim is

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like her first role because she does
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one. I read this, I
was like, I'm gonna back and see

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it because I don't believe it.
Very unknown. Kevin Costner is one of

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the frat boys, you know when
the frat house, when the frat guys

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show up at that that party that
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and everything's getting crazy. There's Kevin
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Michael Keaton around, laughing and having
a good time. I was like,

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unbelievable. And speaking of unbelievable,
I'm gonna see if see if you recognize

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this. So I don't know if
you noticed the sign that was on the

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back wall during the frat house party. It gives us the the it gives

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us the fraternity's name. The fraternity
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was a Delta tow Chai. That's
the same frat from that's we basically we

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have a shared universe where Night Shift
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because like this fraternity just cannot stay
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that, I was like, wait
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we covered well we covered that movie
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year, and when you know,
Dayton Johnson was was with us, and

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I was like, that's that's the
Deltas. Yeah. Yeah, it's not

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a movie I particularly like, But
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I was in stitches. Those guys
did great. I'll tell you what,

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Amber, Let's let's take a quick
break and when we get back, we'll

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talk a little bit about the film's
background and maybe talk about our pivotal scene.

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the discographies of the Beatles and the
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we will be matching albums against each other

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in a one v one format,
discussing every single track and then giving our

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verdict on which album is better.
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up against the Fab Four. Both
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of what was possible in pop music
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we got were some of the greatest
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versus A Hard Day's Night River,
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let's come together for some fun,
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We are back, and before we
move forward, Amber, you had

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mentioned one or two cameos that maybe
I didn't see, So who's you spot

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in this one? Well, the
first one is the most obvious one of

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the the the musclemen that kind of
kicks off our adventure at the beginning is

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Richard Belzer from Law and Order.
Oh wait, I got himself in the

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foot Yeah, like one of the
one of the one of the the pimps,

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like the competing pimps. He's yeah
that I owed them money or something.

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I don't know. Yeah, you're
absolutely right. I was like the

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whole movie. I'm like, he
looks familiar, but I don't. I

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don't know. Yeah that long order, okay. And then Ron Howard and

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his wife are the couple kissing when
Henry Wickler goes home to his apartment.

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You gotta kidding me. First night. Yeah, they're like making out right

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there by the door. So I
was gonna I had one one for you.

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But now now i'm i'm I'm I'm
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me that Ron Howard did not one, but two cameos because he he's the

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saxophone player on the subway, which
I love that. He's like so bad

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too. Yeah, he shouldn't be
bad because I think, if I remember

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right, Richie Cunningham played the saxophone. But he's uh, just for the

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the so intrusive. Yeah, he's
so intrusive, like he's like right in

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his Henry Wiegler's face. Another one
movie, all Right, Laid on Me.

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Special Agent Johnson is one of the
basketball players at the beginning relation.

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Oh my god, you're right.
The movie opens, but there's two guys

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playing basketball? How did I?
How did I? How did that get?

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I turned to Liam and I said, that's specially to Johnson because who

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and I go? No relation?
Yeah, no relation? And he knew

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exactly what I was talking about.
I cannot believe I didn't I miss that

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one, And thank you for letting
me know. Yeah. Now I have

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to go back and watch it again
because it's like, I love that guy.

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He's great, He's awesome. Yeah. So what else did you find

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out about the production of this movie? Would it shock you if I told

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you that this one is based on
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get shocked because I know Brian Grazer. He comes up with the idea to

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make to do the movie after reading
a New York Times article about a prostitution

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ring that was being run out of
a city Morgue. He thought it would

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make for a great film. He
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working and they are like, no, we're definitely not doing that. We

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pass. But in nineteen eighty he
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working together on the paramount a lot. They decide they want to work together.

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Grazer pitches the brothel morgue idea and
he says, hey, Ron Howard's

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like, hey, let's call it
my buddies Happy Days writers Loel Gance and

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babbylou Mandel to write the script,
so like a kind of a little Happy

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Day's reunion happening here. And oddly
enough, night Shift, Like when they're

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doing like the promotional materials like posters
and stuff like that, they're talking about

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Happy Days on the poster because of
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So think about like how decent and
wholesome Happy Days was, you know,

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the people Happy Day, the craters
of Happy Days. Night Shift,

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Okay, that sounds great. Fonzie's
working in the morgue. Hey, it's

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there's there's prostitutes. They're pimps now. So I don't know how good that

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that that campaign went over, But
this one, I feel like there's like,

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you know, you kind of were
talking like you got you got some

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good chuckles at it. There's this
is I think it's a really funny movie.

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But if I had to ask you, you know what, what what's

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the pivotal scene for you? You
know the scene that sticks out where you're

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like, you know what this this
movie? This scene kind of ties the

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movie together. This scene is important. You know. Maybe it's not the

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climax, maybe it wasn't in the
in the trailer, but it it still

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has some impact. I love the
scene at Christmas Eve with Michael Keaton and

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Shelley Long and Henry Winkler and they're
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you know, getting drunk and you
know, just kind of talking about who

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they really are and and you know, betiful why they are who they are.

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And Henry Winkler shares how he spent
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made and because he's not buying flashy
cars and stuff like Michael Keaton is,

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and yeah, this is, uh, this is this is this is the

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one I was going to amber,
uh, you know, bonding under the

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Christmas tree because Michael Keaton's character is
so off the wall and he's he's a

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screwball and it's just like does this
guy take anything seriously? And when you

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hear his his about his childhood,
it's, you know, it kind of

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it kind of makes you sad for
him, you know, but it also

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kind of explains why he has such
a positive attitude towards life, because he's,

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you know, he chooses to rise
above it all. And I love

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that moment for him, you know, I thought that was like the the

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Ron Howard moment. That is certainly
a Ron Howard moment. Chuck spending the

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money that he's made on on a
on a proper headstone for his father's grave.

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I love that. And I really
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this scene because without saying a word, we clearly understand that she's falling in

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love with Chuck, you know,
and she's doing it all with just her

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looks, and it's a fantastic scene. It's very heartwarming. Almost almost slips

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it in there like, hey,
this could be a non traditional Christmas movie

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if you wanted it to be.
Now. You know, I don't know

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about next Christmas, if the family
wants to watch hookers and drugs and frat

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house guys in the morgue, but
you know, it could work I think

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we need to talk about this guy's
filmography. Ron Howard has done quite a

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bit. And for those very few
that might not know a whole lot about

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Ron Howard, let me give you
a little background on Ron Howard. He's

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born in Duncan, Oklahoma, in
nineteen sixty four. We happen to know

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some famous podcasters in Oklahoma. Surely
you can't be serious. I am serious.

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I'm referring to d Graves and Jason
Colvin and don't call me Shirley.

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I couldn't resist. Ron Howard rises
to fame as a child playing Opie on

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The Andy Griffith Show, which you
know, a lot of us, you

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know, especially our parents, grew
up watching. Then as a teenager Richie

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Cunningham on Happy Days, and then
he takes off. He begins this incredible

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career as one of Hollywood's best directors. He is the co chairman, along

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with Brian Grazer, of Imagine Entertainment, an amber. In his six decades

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in show business, he's won two
Oscars, two Golden Globes, four Emmys,

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and one Grammy. Wow, I
know we can't talk, Yeah,

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I know we can't talk a lot
about his entire filmography. But I know

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we can't skip. There's not there's
very few wee can even skip. So

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let's we're gonna have to do.
We're gonna have to We're gonna have to

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do this kind of rapid fire,
I think. So we have been talking

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about his directorial debut, Night Shift, the next movie I think was his

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true debut. You are, of
course, referring to nineteen eighty three's Splash,

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probably the first Ron Howard film I
ever saw. Oh yeah, this

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was a magical movie. It's hilarious. Eugene Levy, John Candy, Tom

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Hans Candy is so good in this
movie. Oh he's great in this movie.

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He's still against type, like you
know, lovable John Candy. He's

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kind of playing like a you know, he's like the shady womanizing brother.

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I think, yep, I love
it. So, you know, obviously

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we got to recommend this one,
right, Splashes I must see. Yeah,

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absolutely, it's on Disney Plus.
For crying out loud. How about

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nineteen eighty five? Your thoughts on
Cocoon. I loved Cocoon. I remember

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going to see it in the theater, and uh it's a I like any

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friendly alien story, So uh yeah, Love Cocoon. Hopefully it comes back

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in print soon. What can I
say about his return to work with Michael

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Keaton in nineteen eighty six, Gung
Ho? We covered it. We covered

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it on our limited series nineteen eighty
six, So please check that one out.

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Gung Ho is gun Ho's hilarious.
Your thoughts on gun Ho. I

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really just enjoyed the whole fish out
of Water, you know, mannicness of

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Michael Keaton, and I just thought
he was wonderful. Now I have to

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I feel like in nineteen eighty eight, I got to give you a little

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extra time on this one because I'm
guessing this is a This is one of

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your favorites when it comes to Ron
Howard, Let's talk about Willow You Ah

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great, such a beautiful, beautiful
fantasy. Oh my gosh, it's it's

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amazing, right. Valcolmer is just
so incredibly talented. His mad markin amazing

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mad Mark so much fun to watch, you know, Joan Whaley, Warwick

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Davis, you know you gotta love
Warri. I mean this movie. I

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think the biggest crime when I think
about this movie is that we waited so

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long to revisit the property, and
when we did we did it in such

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terrible fashion. You know, Disney
Plus tries to do tries to bring it

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back as a as a series.
They do one one season. It's awful,

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and you know, with respect to
everyone involved, it's just it wasn't

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what we wanted. Yeah. The
fact that they feel like it damaged the

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reputation of the movie, you know, and rewatching it just how what a

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delightful fairy tale it is. So
let's uh, let's move on. I

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want to I want to go to
nineteen eight nine with you Amber. This

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film was almost the movie that I
wanted to cover for Ron Howard because no

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one, no one remembers it,
or they do remember it, and then

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they go, oh wow, that's
a Ron Howard movie. And it blows

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my mind that it's so underrated.
It's an all star cast. I'm talking

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about the film called Parenthood. Yes, with Steve Martin. I have watched

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it at so many different ages,
and you know, as a kid watching

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it, and then as an adult
with no kids, as an adult with

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kids, a single mom, now
a mom with an adult kid. Like

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the Layers, it just keeps hitting, yeah, and it just hits you

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different every time you'd watch it.
And just so much the truth about being

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a mom and dad. Yeah,
I mean, let's I mean think about

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that. Steve Martin, Mary stem
Virgin, Diane Weist, Jason Robarbs,

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Rick moranis Tom Holse in a great
role. If you love Tom Holse,

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Martha Plimpton, a post Bill and
Ted ke Eves, who is just awesome

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to watch. And then you've got
like the uh I want to say he's

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maybe fifteen at the time. Joaquin
Phoenix baby Joaquin Phoenix baby Joaquin this movie

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and you know this is this is
Howard He likes to work with the same

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people. So Lowel Gance, Baba
lu Mandel. Uh they're writing this again

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and the script is so good.
It is superb. It is such a

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great movie. It's the family is
you know amazing. Yeah, he's fantastic

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in it. It just yeah,
you know the idea of uh, these

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guys playing playing siblings and struggling with
how you know, I'm raising my kids

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this way and you're raising your kids
that way. It's a it's such a

403
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.440
great film. Uh. Well,
and the funny stuff lands really hard,

404
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:51.799
and the arguments they have while still
loving each other lands really hard. I

405
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.519
mean it it's gonna hit. It's
gonna I think it's gonna hit all the

406
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.720
emotions, right, yes, all
right, Well, before this becomes the

407
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:02.720
Ron Howard by Ron Howard Parenthood episode, let's let's keep moving on. We

408
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:08.759
got to keep I know, I
know, So let's let's uh, let's

409
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:13.799
move to ninety one, one of
my favorite Ron Howard movies. You know,

410
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.400
when I feel like, when you
make a movie good enough that Universal

411
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:20.759
Studios wants to make a ride based
on the movie, I think he got

412
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:24.680
something. I'm talking about Backdraft,
Yes, absolutely, I just did a

413
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:30.359
rewatch of it not too long ago, and it's kind of poignant because my

414
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.400
mom was a paramedic, so she
worked for the fire department and she,

415
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.920
you know, was side by side
with those guys and loved them, and

416
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:42.279
they had her back and she had
theirs, and you know, it really

417
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:47.319
honors that that bond among you know, the men that do that incredibly difficult

418
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:53.240
job. And Kurt Russell, oh
my gosh, him and Baldwin, William

419
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:59.000
Baldwin playing brothers. I can tell
you first hand, having a brother that's

420
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.240
like two and a half years younger
than their relationship, like when they're little

421
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:07.319
kids in the movie and then to
a lesser extent, like their adult relationship

422
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.079
that that's brothers. That's that's that's
how it is, you know. But

423
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:15.440
like that moment when they go into
that first fire and he loses William Baldwin

424
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.599
for a minute, Yeah, and
Kurt Russell is like almost crying, like

425
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:21.559
his voice craps. He's like,
I told you to stay right beside me.

426
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:25.240
He was so scared. Yeah,
you know, like he's always your

427
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:30.079
little brother. It never goes away. Absolutely that. Yeah, this movie

428
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:39.359
Robert de Niro playing the fire inspector
with Donald Sutherland by a goodness Sutherland,

429
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:45.960
How how scary? Oh my gosh. You know what a great double feature

430
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:52.319
with Backdraft is uh film called Copland, which I feel like we're playing the

431
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.440
greatest hits where I'm just telling you
about episodes that we've already we've already covered.

432
00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.920
But uh, but Copland is kind
of like it's all obviously it's about

433
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.920
cops, but it's like it's the
investigation piece, Like there's some there's some

434
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:08.280
dirty cops, and de Niro is
like, the I a guy that's investigating.

435
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.760
But it's got that whole that that
small town let's take care of one

436
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.519
another vibe, you know, and
let's figure out who's who the bad guy

437
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:22.360
is backdrafting Copland. That's a great
double bill if if you haven't seen either

438
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:23.519
of them, or you want to
watch them again, that's a that's my

439
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.519
that's my option, you know for
you. All right, you know,

440
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:31.000
we're we're doing it again, Amber, We're I know, this man's this

441
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:36.880
man's films are so good, they're
so such a talented filmmaker. Yeah,

442
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.280
and year after year he's like he's
not taking a break. Nineteen ninety two,

443
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:45.320
he's back with Tom Cruise and Nicole
Kidman in Far and Away. Your

444
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.360
thoughts on this one? I love
it. It's a bonkers nineties romance.

445
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:57.079
But when you get to the Oklahoma
land Rush, like that whole sequence is

446
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:01.599
so breathtaking. Oh it is.
You just went back in time for twenty

447
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:06.400
minutes and it's so good, you
know, And the rest of the movies

448
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:10.880
just just a fluffy, little little
romance, but that bat whole sequence at

449
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:15.000
the end is amazing. Yeah,
you remember that was I think that was

450
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.000
the first movie that they filmed seventy
millimeters panavision. Oh really, and it

451
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:23.400
makes sense what you're talking about.
There's sweeping landscapes, and the cinematography's gorgeous.

452
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.679
If the movie, if if there's
one fault with the movie, I

453
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.239
gotta say, you know, Cruise
maybe could have worked a little bit more

454
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.920
on his his Irish accent, just
just just a little bit, you know.

455
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.199
But and I'm not I can't do
the bare knuckle boxing, Like I

456
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:44.679
just was watching through my fingers,
like it's so violent. That's that's one

457
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:46.320
of the parts I love. Yeah, Tom Cruise, and I believe that

458
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.679
I might not believe his Irish accent, but I totally believe him as a

459
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.440
bare knuckle boxer, Oh for sure. Yes, yeah, Amber, Let's

460
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.679
move to nineteen ninety four. Let's
talk about one of your your favorites.

461
00:35:55.719 --> 00:36:00.639
Oh, he's back with Keaton.
Michael Keaton. At this point, I

462
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:05.840
feel like it's safe to say he's
known for getting like a stellar cast,

463
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.079
like an all star cast, because
we're talking about a movie called The Paper

464
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:15.960
that's got Michael Keaton, Glenn Close, Robert Duvall, Marissa Tomay, Randy

465
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:22.880
Quaid, Jason Robards again, Jason
Alexander shows up, Catherine O'Hara, Lynn

466
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:30.280
Digpin. I mean, there's incredible
incredible cast there well. And also another

467
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.639
thing that he does that I like
that he doesn't night shift, is he

468
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:40.119
laters it out with these great character
actors. So everybody who's filling in in

469
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:45.960
every scene, they're all doing something
interesting. No one wastes their time on

470
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:50.000
camera as far as I'm deserved.
Yeah, right, it's it's fantastic,

471
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.559
And I mean this movie has everything. It's I love a newspaper movie.

472
00:36:54.320 --> 00:37:00.719
I love a journalism movie, and
I love people talking over each other.

473
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:07.239
It's New York, it's you know, this great story of it's a it's

474
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:12.559
a tabloid paper, you know.
And we only have to be right for

475
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:17.960
a day. Yeah, so who
cares if we're actually wrong? And Michael

476
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.760
Keaton stands up for you know,
no, I want to tell this story

477
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:28.280
today and be right. Howard's working
with with Keaton early in the eighties with

478
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.320
his with the comedic Keaton, and
then he's back in the nineties and he's

479
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:35.840
got the dramatic Keaton right. Yes, but he also has one of the

480
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.760
funniest scenes. It's one of the
greatest f word scenes. It's like playing

481
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:45.639
strains and automobile bills, like he
throws it down like nobody else. It

482
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:51.400
is hysterical. Okay, So let's
let's move on a year later. It's

483
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.400
nineteen ninety five. We're gonna have
to we're gonna have to do our best

484
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:58.800
not to dwell on this one because
it's maybe maybe his best film. I

485
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:00.400
don't know, I don't know.
Arguably maybe his best I don't know.

486
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:06.800
I would say, I would say
it's his best. Yeah, we had

487
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:13.039
backdraft for my mom. My dad
was tangentially part of the space program.

488
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:21.559
His company made part okay, or
for all of those crafts. So he

489
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.119
had the the screws that held the
heat shield on. Oh how about that?

490
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:30.559
Yeah, so the space program is
very space is so important, and

491
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:34.800
uh, that's which I made movie
with a lot of pride, Like that

492
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.400
was my dad coming home with the
pocket protector, and I love that all

493
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:43.320
those Mischi control That's exactly what my
dad looked like coming home from work care.

494
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:51.400
Yeah, the button down shortly with
the pocket protector, the ground tie

495
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:55.360
and oh, that's that's amazing.
Yeah, it's just the heroism, the

496
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.519
story. And then like you said, the cast, my God Hanks,

497
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.280
Bill Paxton, Kevin Bacon, and
Gary sonise Ed Harris too. Let's not

498
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:08.639
forget ed Harrison. I'll take everybody
in Michigan control like all, like I

499
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:14.920
said, all those layers. Kathleen
Quinlan, who I wish she did more?

500
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.199
You know she kind of she kind
of she kind of popped in the

501
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:21.840
nineties, like she was showing up
and in movies like Apaulla thirteen and Break

502
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:28.159
Down with with Kurt Russell. Uh. This film is just incredible and it's

503
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:31.719
it's it's a testament to Ron Howard
and the writers of the of the script

504
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:37.239
because we know what happened. This
is a biography, yes, and yet

505
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.320
at the end, your your your
grip in the armchair, you're still tense

506
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.719
and you're like blenched waiting for them
to come out of the blackout. Yeah,

507
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.400
Cronkite's all will the heat shield hole
or in the dark side of the

508
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.400
moment it's and you're just like,
you know, and there's silence on the

509
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:57.360
radio. It's like what where are
they? You know, you you kind

510
00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:59.360
of forget, you know, you
get lost in the film and you kind

511
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.320
of forget, like, hey,
it's it's okay, they made it home.

512
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:05.760
But you know, such a great
film. You know, you don't

513
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.679
you don't think about it. I
actually got vertigo in the theater when we

514
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:14.360
went to see it because when they
pull around the moon, Yeah, and

515
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.079
you have that great shot of the
craft, the moon and then the Earth

516
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.039
in the distance, Like I felt
like I was gonna fall out of my

517
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:25.480
chair, Like I was just lost
in the realism of it. All Right,

518
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.920
we're uh, we're still in the
nineties. So we got to move

519
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.800
we got to move on. And
nineteen ninety six one of my favorite,

520
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:38.159
one of my favorite uh Ron Howard
films, Gary Sneeze, is working with

521
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:45.360
him again. Mel Gibson Rene Russo
film called Ransom. Very very powerful story,

522
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.519
powerful story. It's a thriller,
kid, you know. Mel Gibson's

523
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:53.159
like the the wealthy guy that you
know, his son gets kidnapped and does

524
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:58.159
the unthinkable. He doesn't he doesn't
agree, you know, he doesn't negotiate,

525
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.960
and then he puts the money for
a bounty. That's so. I

526
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.480
think one of my favorite moments in
that movie is when he goes on TV

527
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.000
and he has the bag of money
in front of him and he's like,

528
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:13.320
yeah, this is what they want
and I'm not doing it, and intead,

529
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.679
I'm offering it up as a as
a as a bounty to anyone that

530
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:21.000
you know, and like just the
look on Garysnie's face, just like the

531
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.440
shock at all. Yeah, such
a It's one of the best moments in

532
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:28.480
a Ron Howard film. And you
know, really dark. There were scenes

533
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.079
there where I was like surprised in
a Ron Howard movie that we went there.

534
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:36.039
It's the well, the way they
like the cocoon, like the soundproof

535
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:38.519
cocoon that they're keeping the little boy
in. Yeah, and they kept giving

536
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:45.000
them cough syrup and yeah, his
PTSD and trauma afterward. It's not like

537
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.920
he just went home and he was
fine. Yeah, No, he he's

538
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:51.840
terribly he is. The kid is
definitely damaged, you know, like he

539
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:55.119
needs help after he gets found.
And I just you know, the the

540
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:00.800
turmoil between Mel Gibson and Renee Russo's
characters, you know, husband and wife,

541
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.360
you know, because she's super upset
that he's done what he's done,

542
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.639
and you know a couple of times
there's a couple of scares where they think,

543
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:15.559
well the kid's dead. Very intense
was it was the detective. Yeah,

544
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:19.760
so like usually he shows up as
kind of like a funny guy.

545
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:23.760
He does he plays I think he
does comedy well, but you know him

546
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:28.079
playing him playing the straight man,
where he's like, I'm the detective.

547
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.519
I'm gonna get your son back.
It's it's great. I strongly recommend that

548
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:43.280
one. I'll tell you so.
Uh, ed TV. I think The

549
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:47.199
Truman Show so much that I can't
even talk. I never watched was it

550
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:50.480
was Truman? Wait? Did they
come out? Is this one of those

551
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:54.440
situations where we get the same movie
by by rival studios in the same year,

552
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:59.239
Like this is like an Armageddon deep
impact thing because everyone loves The Truman

553
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.880
Show, and then ed TV is
also there. I gotta be honest,

554
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.760
I don't think I've ever seen it, and that's weird because it's a Ron

555
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.599
Howard film starring Matthew McConaughey. But
I just if I did see it,

556
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:14.440
I have no recollection of it.
Yeah, I did watch it because I

557
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:19.440
just luckily, I think saw Truman
Show first, and I love that movie

558
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.000
so much and was like, why
do I even want to watch something that's

559
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:27.000
going to make a joke out of
something that I found some moving and meaningful.

560
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:31.280
Yeah, well, talk about moving
them right along. The next year,

561
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:37.559
the year two thousand, he gives
us the live action version of the

562
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:43.719
classic Christmas telle How the Grinch Stole
Christmas with Jim Carrey. I'm gonna say

563
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:49.519
people that this movie makes very happy. Okay you said you are one of

564
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.519
them or not one of them?
Okay, okay, So you know,

565
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.599
with all due respect to any listeners
that love the Jim Carrey Grinch, not

566
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.599
for me. That's that's okay,
because uh I will I will always stick

567
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:06.719
to the nineteen sixty six Boris Karloff
narrated How the Gridge Still Christmas. That's

568
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.719
that's where it's at all. Right, let's move let's move past it.

569
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:13.480
Let's move past it. Then this
guy Amber, he is the minute he

570
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.519
wraps production, he's in pre production
on something else. So the following year,

571
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:22.840
it's two thousand and one, does
an incredible movie called A Beautiful Mind

572
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:28.800
with Russell Crowe. Your thoughts just
devastating. I saw it one time and

573
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:34.679
I'll never watch it again. Really
devastating. That. Yeah, like just

574
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.960
the thought of this man who was
so lonely he had to like create this

575
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:43.639
whole world in his head. And
then that combined with the scene where he

576
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:47.840
gets electroshock therapy and he's looking at
his wife and he's so scared and oh

577
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:52.599
my god, it was so emotional. I just I'm like, Nope,

578
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:59.079
can't do it, can't watch it. I think I think Jennifer Connelly playing

579
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:02.159
Alicia Ash, his wife, I
think it's one of her finest performances.

580
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.039
Yes, I mean, your heart
breaks for you. She's inspiring, she's

581
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:13.480
she's motivating. She is amazing in
this movie. And you know, I

582
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.960
love the film. But but you
got it right, It's it's a hard

583
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:19.840
it's a hard rewatch, you know, because it's fun and like in the

584
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.519
early day, like when he's like
at college and he's trying to teach his

585
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:24.639
buddies, like, hey, you
know, if we all go after the

586
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.639
same girl, you know, we're
gonna lose. But if we all,

587
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:30.800
you know, let's take her out
of the equation and let's let's you know,

588
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:35.039
divvy up, you know. And
then just the joy you see Russell

589
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.880
Crowe, you know, playing as
John Nash. But then the heartbreaking moments

590
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:43.159
where you you know, oh wait, Paul Bettany is he's not even there.

591
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.639
He's a figment of his imagination and
it's just it's just it's it's heartbreaking.

592
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:52.320
But man, what a great film. Love that one. How about

593
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.639
two thousand and three, The Missing
I think this is what Kate Blanchette,

594
00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:00.280
Tommy Lee Jones, I saw it. I saw it, but it was

595
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.039
it's forgettable. Yeah, I'm not
a big fan of it. Yeah,

596
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.519
like I couldn't. I know,
her daughter gets kidnapped and I know she

597
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.960
is after after that, I couldn't
tell you. I didn't really tell you

598
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.440
what else happened. Well, I'll
tell you what happened. In two thousand

599
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:19.039
and five, he sticks with Russell
Crowe. He does one of one of

600
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:23.480
his best films in my opinion,
talking about Cinderella. Man, Wow,

601
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:29.079
what an incredible You know he's back
to like the let's let's do a based

602
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:35.320
on a true stories talking about Jim
Braddock the Boxer Love. I love a

603
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.519
movie like this where I went in
thinking, Okay, I can't wait to

604
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:43.960
see a great movie about boxing,
and what I saw was a very moving,

605
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:47.519
very compelling movie about the Great Depression
and how he is struggling. I

606
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:51.599
could watch this one time and time
again. I'm gonna have to revisit this

607
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.079
one because I saw it when it
first came out and then I haven't seen

608
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:59.159
it since. I don't remember a
whole lot about it before you go see

609
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.559
it again. He loves working with
a select group, and now he's back

610
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.039
with Tom Hanks. He starts,
he kicks off this whole Da Vinci code.

611
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.639
Uh phenomenon. You know, we
everyone the book Dan Brown's book comes

612
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:14.360
out, Everyone loses their minds read
that book. Oh my goodness. I

613
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:16.840
happen to love the first one,
and then I kind of you know,

614
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:20.400
I know I'm jumping ahead, but
I really kind of fell off, like

615
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.199
with the second third one. I
don't know, what do you think.

616
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:28.039
It's kind of the same with the
books. I liked the Da Vinci Code.

617
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.440
I like the book better than the
movie. It was interesting to watch

618
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:37.280
the movie because that was the kind
of mind my dad had for putting puzzles

619
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:42.239
and things together like that. So
it's kind of interesting to see, like

620
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.639
visually, how the way my dad
saw the world, and so that was

621
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:53.440
interesting. But yeah, Angels and
Demons didn't really do it. And the

622
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:57.760
third one was good because in mcgregorright, well, here's what we're gonna do,

623
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:00.280
because again, we have so much, it's much more to cover.

624
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:05.039
I know where I know we're I
know where we're going. We're pushing for

625
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.039
time here, so let's let's hit
the lightning round Amber. I'm gonna give

626
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:12.920
you the title and you tell me. You tell our listeners like, see

627
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.920
it or skip it? Okay,
how's that all right? Two thousand and

628
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:22.440
eight Frost Nixon see it, Absolutely
see it. I'm gonna skip a couple

629
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.920
here because I've never even heard of
them. Yeah, next, like three,

630
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:31.480
Yeah, let's let's jump to twenty
thirteen, the movie Rush, See

631
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.519
it. You won't even believe that
it's real likely such a great, amazing

632
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:42.360
story. Twenty fifteen In the Heart
of the Sea. Oh, my gosh,

633
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.719
you gotta see it right, true
story, amazing true story, amazing

634
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:52.239
true story, and the basis for
maybe Dick. Yeah. Twenty sixteen,

635
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:57.239
the third and final DaVinci movie,
Inferno. Yeah, that one. It

636
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.559
picks back up again. Got your
you and McGregor went. So that's let's

637
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.800
let's see it. I'm gonna break
the rule here, just let's let's give

638
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:09.639
it just a minute. Twenty eighteen
Solo, a Star Wars story. Now,

639
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:15.199
let's let's keep in mind. Let's
remember they had this like mostly shot

640
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:22.760
with other directors. It's it's crashing
the execs hated. It's just it's falling

641
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.880
apart. These guys walk and they
pull in Ron Howard to kind of be

642
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.800
here, here's our here's our mess. If you could just you can kind

643
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:32.960
of clean it up and cut it
up and turn it into a Star Wars

644
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:38.199
movie, we would appreciate that.
And I'm gonna be honest, I love

645
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.920
I don't understand the hate for Solo. I think it's a great Star Wars

646
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:44.559
movie. You're a Star Wars fan, so you tell me, like what

647
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:53.119
you thinks. Okay, I think
that there's inspired casting for Lando. I

648
00:49:53.199 --> 00:50:01.000
think there's horrible miscar casting for Han
Solo. I don't think that guy had

649
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:07.000
any charisma at all. He just
did nothing for me. But I loved

650
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:12.400
Amelia Clark and Paul Bettany, Okay, that whole subplot, so you know,

651
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.440
it's a little from colum A,
a little from columb all right.

652
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:20.440
The answer to Star Wars is always
more Star Wars. So yeah, well,

653
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.800
before as we move on, I
just want to I want to I

654
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.760
want to kick the hornets nest here, and I do want to say that

655
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:34.239
Solo, a Star Wars story,
is far superior to the last Jedi.

656
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:40.280
And I know Dayton Johnson of the
Docum Bay seventy seven podcast is listening and

657
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.760
he's not happy that I said that, but I said what I said,

658
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:49.639
and now we're moving On. Twenty
twenty, he does his first film for

659
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:53.679
Netflix, Hillbilly Elogy. Yeah.
I did not see that one. I

660
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.760
didn't either, but I feel like
I need to it just it's one of

661
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.960
those things where just to know what
it made it so mad. Yeah.

662
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:07.480
Amy Adams and Glenn Close are just
everyone talks about how they're just they're spectacular

663
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.239
in the film, and it's one
of those it's almost like, you know,

664
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.280
you still have some brocoli on your
plate and you're not getting up until

665
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.119
you til you eat it. You
know. That's how I look at this.

666
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:22.400
I see the trailer and it's just
nothing appeals to me. But it

667
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:27.079
should because it's Ron Howard, it's
these two amazing actresses, and it takes

668
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.440
place in Ohio. I mean,
if not for any reason, you and

669
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:31.559
I should should want to see it, right, they shot it, and

670
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:36.679
you know they shot it in parts
of Ohio, So I don't know.

671
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.800
I feel like we got to get
to it at some point, but not

672
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:45.239
today. Did you see twenty twenty
two. Did you see his this film

673
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:50.360
Thirteen Lives? I see the True
story, saw it, and I don't

674
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:53.239
think I took a deep breath through
the whole thing. Really, Okay,

675
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:57.079
I haven't seen it, so it
sounds like I need to see Jeff.

676
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:01.320
Like though, I don't even know
how they shot it. I don't even

677
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:06.559
know how they made this movie.
It is you feel like you're watching a

678
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:10.760
documentary, and in a little bit
you are, because the boys and a

679
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:16.079
lot of the rescuers are the real
people. I remember. I remember hearing

680
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:20.920
about this and seeing it on television. You know, this was a major

681
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:25.480
event, and then I feel like
a couple weeks later, we're in production

682
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:30.119
on the movie, and I thought, how you know? Is this a

683
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:32.760
cash grab? And truthfully, I
at the time, I didn't even realize

684
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:36.760
it was a Ron Howard film.
So based on what you just said,

685
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:39.880
I'm it's on the watch list now. The way that they were able to

686
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:45.840
put you in that cave and show
you just what they were up against,

687
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:52.079
I mean, it's just unbelievable.
Unbelievable as that on your to do list.

688
00:52:52.320 --> 00:53:00.000
Forget about Elogy? Is it ulagier
Elogy? It's eulogi elogy can't fix

689
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:04.639
sat in editing. I gonna let
that one slide. I just I was

690
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.519
reading the title. You know,
Oh well, I'll tell you what's uh?

691
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:12.519
What's amazing? This guy just like
we said, he he does not

692
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.599
have an off button. He has
got so much more coming. Okay,

693
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:21.559
I'm intrigued. What's coming up right
now? He is in production on a

694
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:27.800
film called Eden. It's a thriller
starring Sydney Sweeney, Vanessa Kirby, and

695
00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:34.280
Anna Diarmis. How's that for a
murder's row of of incredible talent? So

696
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.159
let me let me, let me
give you, Let me let me just

697
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:43.119
read this here to you. Eden
follows a group of people fueled by a

698
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:47.000
profound desire for change. In order
to turn their back to society, they

699
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:52.599
leave everything behind and set their futures
on the harsh landscape of the Galopolkos.

700
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:58.119
Interesting, right, that could go? That could go one of one of

701
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:01.199
two ways. It sounds like at
the beginning you're gonna be like, oh,

702
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:07.400
this isn't a bad idea, and
then exactly then you actually get to

703
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:12.880
the galopagus and you realize it's untouched
and you might be over your head.

704
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:15.400
Yeah. Now he's also I think
this one's gonna make you happy. He

705
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:21.599
is in post production on a film
called The Shrinking of Treehorn. This is

706
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:25.280
gonna be his second Netflix movie,
and it's gonna be the first time he

707
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:32.639
directs an animated film. Why how
about that? The Shrinking of Treehorn follows

708
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:37.360
a young man who begins shrinking in
size after playing a strange board game,

709
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:44.320
which goes largely unnoticed by his parents, and apparently it's based off of a

710
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:50.039
children's book called Nobody Shrinks. I
think this one could be fun. Yes,

711
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.639
I think so. Okay, Amber, well let's wrap up. Let's

712
00:54:53.639 --> 00:55:00.159
wrap this up. Your recommendation about
Night Shift. I was thinking while I

713
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:08.519
was watching it that this is a
movie that kind of fails because we don't

714
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:13.360
watch cable like we used to,
where you're not just like flipping through the

715
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:17.960
channels. This is one of those
that, like you catch on HBO on

716
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:23.760
a Sunday afternoon and it's like the
only thing on and you find this little,

717
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:30.119
fun, little movie from the eighties. You know, now with streaming

718
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:34.119
and things like that, you kind
of have to go searching for things that

719
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.440
you want to see. It's harder
to stumble upon things. So I think

720
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:42.159
if you if you want that kind
of eighties movie, I think it's probably

721
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:45.679
something different. Everybody's seeing The Money
Pit, but maybe not. Everybody's seen

722
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:51.079
this one, and it it's definitely
a fun you know, our forty five.

723
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:53.800
You got to see it, if
not for any reason. Michael Keaton,

724
00:55:54.559 --> 00:56:00.159
this is this is the birth of
the comedic Michael Keaton. I I

725
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:05.239
enjoy it. The weird thing here. It should feel dated, but it

726
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.519
but it doesn't. I feel like, I feel like you could make this

727
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:12.800
movie today with Sam Rockwell and it'd
be a hit. Yes. The one

728
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.960
thing that I do love about it, though, that you can't do today,

729
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:22.079
is I love this time period of
filmmaking in New York where you're just

730
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:29.760
like gorilla with a camera on the
actual streets of New York and shooting it

731
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.719
and like nobody cares. They're doing
their thing and the streets are dirty and

732
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:37.159
it is what it is. And
I don't think you can do that anymore.

733
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:43.119
No, this is this is definitely
the lost art of like gorilla filmmaking,

734
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.280
where you could just hey, film
crew, we're out here and we're

735
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:49.800
not gonna shut down, you know, Times Square anything like that. But

736
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.199
we're gonna shoot, We're gonna have
We're gonna have a good time. Yeah,

737
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:58.159
you can catch us one on Prime
or Apple TV. What do you

738
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:04.239
think of night Shift? Let us
know on social media Facebook, Instagram,

739
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:08.679
Twitter, You can check out www
dot a film by podcast dot com.

740
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:14.639
Amber. We're writing articles now,
so we have more than just a you

741
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:16.039
know, just a spot for you
to check out our latest episode. You

742
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:20.119
can you can now read what we're
what we're up to, uh, or

743
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:23.480
you can write us at a film
by podcast at gmail dot com. I'll

744
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:27.320
tell you what tell us tell us
what your favorite Michael Heaton movie is.

745
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.880
Uh. We'll read your response on
the show and we'll send you some swag

746
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:36.400
some a film by swag as it
is Amber, It is always fun talking

747
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:38.800
with you. Thanks for thanks for
stopping by and uh and having a good

748
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:42.719
conversation. I know you didn't you
didn't love this movie, but I'm h

749
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:45.280
I thought you had some great some
great points, so I appreciate it.

750
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:49.880
Yeah, it was fun to watch
and Ron Howard's filmography is always fun to

751
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.920
talk about. Absolutely, I wish, I wish we could have dedicated more

752
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:55.400
time to it, but uh,
but we got to go, so I'll

753
00:57:55.400 --> 00:58:00.840
tell you. Join us tomorrow for
our Star Trek themed series Fasers Set to

754
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:06.440
stun. Wayne, David and Scott
are continuing their conversation about Star Trek the

755
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:12.159
Next Generation with their top ten episodes
of season two. Then on Friday,

756
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:16.480
are limited series A Film at forty
five returns to celebrate the forty fifth anniversary

757
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:22.719
of films from nineteen seventy nine.
Our friend and very special guest, Apache

758
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:28.880
Ramos will join us to share stories
from the set, or rather the streets

759
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:34.719
of Walter Hill's classic The Warriors,
and next time on a Film Buy,

760
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.320
Scott Hoffman will take us back to
Victorian East London to track down Jack the

761
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:45.119
Ripper when we cover the Hughes Brothers
Moody Thriller from Hell. Thanks for listening.

762
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:15.159
I thought i'd feel this way,
and as far as I'm concerned,

763
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:22.360
I'm glad I've got a chance to
see that. I do believe I love you