July 13, 2025

Sidney Lumet - Deathtrap

Sidney Lumet - Deathtrap
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Season 6 A Film By...

Jeff and David discuss one of Christopher Reeve's greatest performances, as he matches wits against Michael Caine in Sidney Lumet's diabolical murder mystery, Deathtrap!

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David, I'm curious about something. Yeah, when it comes to

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murder mysteries, do you have do you have a favorite?

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What's the go to for you in that genre?

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Actually have a couple go tos. One one of them

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is the Murder on the Orent Express. Both versions I

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really enjoy recently with the Kenneth Brana But we cannot

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forget about one of the most recent films, Knives Out.

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Oh I love Knives Out. But yeah, I'm glad you

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mentioned Murder on the Oran Express because I want to

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talk about a film by Sidney Lumett, his nineteen eighty

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two mystery thriller death Trap. Ye. Hello everybody, and welcome

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back to the A Film By podcast. I'm Jeff Johnson.

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I'm David Burns, and today we are discussing We're discussing

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one of my favorite mystery thrillers, death Trap. So Dave,

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I'm just gonna let's let's jump into it real quick. Well,

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first thought, like, you know you saw this recently for

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the first time, right or have you? Did you see

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this a long time ago?

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I saw this a long time ago, in the the

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days of when Netflix actually mailed out movies. Do you

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remember those days?

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I do remember that.

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Yeah, I got on a kick of murder mysteries and

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stuff like that, So this wasn't one of those that

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was mailed to me in that little shipper, that little red.

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Little red envelope.

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Yes, yeah, that's when I saw this one, but I

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hadn't seen it since then, and I rewatched it again

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this week.

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Okay, cool. Cool. For those of us that haven't seen

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Death Trap, can you could you offer up a little

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a little synopsis?

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I can't. So it's based off of Ira Levin's very

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popular Broadway play of the same name. Sydney Brall, played

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by Michael Kaine, is a famous playwright whose most recent

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work is a critically cleaned Disaster with four Bombs in

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a Row. Now, Brawl has sent a manuscript from a student,

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Clifford Anderson played by the wonderful Christopher Reed, which he

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had taught in a seminar. It is then Brawl decides

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to invite Clifford to his home and plans to murder

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him in order to claim the manuscript as his own.

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Or is that really his intention at all? Death Trap

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is a murder mystery that will keep you guessing until

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the very end.

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That is that is absolutely true because I remember the

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first time I saw this. There are so many good

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twists and turns in.

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This there is loved it.

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I'm gonna ask you, this came out in nineteen eighty two.

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Do we need to be spoiler alert? Do we need

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to be Can we talk about it openly? Because I

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don't know, Let's.

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Talk about this openly. I mean, come on, you've had

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since nineteen eighty two to see this movie. You've put

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a little bit of time, right, you got a little

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bit of tib Now we'll go ahead and put the

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warning here Tho'll know if you want to see it,

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you've never seen it, stop right now, go watch it

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and then come back to the podcast. But from now

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on spoiler alert.

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Yeah, there we go. All right, let's get that out

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of the way. I'm glad we did. Yep. I love

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this movie. I really do. It's one of those weird

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things where I remember when I was a kid because

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I'm a huge Superman fan. Oh yeah, I love Christopher

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Reeves Superman. He is he is the Superman without a doubt,

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without a doubt, and I wanted more, you know, yeah,

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I wanted to see more from him, and you know,

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he was very you know, especially during this time, he

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was very selective about his his roles. Yep, you know so.

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I think one of the big reasons why he picked

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this role because he wanted to get out of the

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shadow of Superman a little bit. He did. Yeah, and

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I think that's why he took on this role. And

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you know, his performance in this is probably my favorite

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of everybody that's in this. And that's not putting Michael

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Kane down at all, because Michael tween kids of theme

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in this, but Christopher Reeve, uh when he shows his

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anger in the film, yes, it's like whoa, whoa.

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Uh. Yeah, you're absolutely right about the typecasting. So Superman

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two is out. It's a massive success. They're they're already

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getting Superman three up and running. And he has a

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meeting with the studio execus of Warners and says, I

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want to do this one. This is my next role.

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You know, I've got a you know this guy. Uh,

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correct me if I'm wrong. But wasn't he Juilliard that Yeah?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is.

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An He was an amazing actor and he did the

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smart thing he he he branched out. He tried some

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something that was that was very far away from from

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Clark Christopher Reeve, and I commend him for it absolutely,

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especially go ahead.

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No, it's it's gonna say that. Just it's nice to

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see him be able to broaden his horizons in his

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performance because you know, you see a little bit of

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that when he plays Superman, you know, but you don't

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get to see his really dramatic side more than you

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do when you see him in this movie death Trap,

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because I mean when he explodes on screen, you know,

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we can go ahead and I guess talk about Christopher Reeve,

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but in this film we talk about him. So when

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you get his first introduction, he you know, he gets

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invited to the house. You know, he he comes in

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and like he's like a little kid. I knew, like

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when he was like talking about brawls, like uh, you know, playwrights,

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and how he was like looking around the room and

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he went into the room to see like all the

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like weapons and stuff that were hanging on the wall,

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and how he was like a little kid in a

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candy store. Just his performance there and then when you

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see him later on in the film, how you just

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flip the page on him, completely different character altogether.

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He If you haven't seen this. He he he walks

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into their their home, and he does have there's a

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there's a hint of Clark Kent to him, you know,

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like innocence. Yeah, absolutely there is. He's got that just

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infectious smile. And you're absolutely right. He's he's meeting his hero.

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You know, he's a he is an untested playwright. He

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went to one of the workshops, right, and this is

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his chance to to uh, to meet his hero. You know,

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this would be this would be like us being invited

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over to Steven Spielberg's house.

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That's exactly. It's like us meeting Stillbury, right.

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But to your point, it's all in act because it's

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all an act for for Sydney's wife, uh Moria played

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by uh uh yeah uh and we'll get to her

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in a few minutes. But uh, just the the turn

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that he does where you find out that this is

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not the innocent childlike, uh guy, this is this guy

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is cold calculator.

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He is.

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Yeah, Michael Caine refers to him as a social in

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the movie. He is. He is so good in this movie.

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This is I'm gonna go ahead and say it right now.

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After Superman, this is my absolute favorite. Christopher performance without

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a doubt. I can't. I can't. I can't say I

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can't think of one better, you know, yeah, honestly can't.

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There's there's some really cool shots in this movie. And

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I'll get to a little bit then later when we're

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talking about likes. But one of the shots I love

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is like when they open the door, he just comes

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bursting in after he was supposedly killed. Remember that, Oh man,

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I love that shot, just like how he was all

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muddy and just that look on his face.

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Covered in like mud and blood and the rage in

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his eyes.

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It's spectacular. Yes, it is spectacular. And that's the point,

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right he's he is. That's the point right there when

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you know the character has changed. I mean at first

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you kind of think that like, oh, they didn't killing,

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he's coming back in to get his revenge. But then

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you start learning the more of the story as it

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goes along.

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Here, Yeah, because because in that moment, and I know

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we're getting ahead of ourselves, but oh yeah, we are

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in that moment. You know, you're almost like it's like

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you're watching like a Tale from the Crypt episode, you know. So, uh,

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let's let's before we get too far into the movie. Though,

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let's let's jump back Sir Michael Kane playing playing Sydney Brule,

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which I think is kind of fun because the director

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is Sidney lmit So he again, Michael Kane has had

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such a storied career. I mean, decades of amazing performances,

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you know, the laundry List, Laundry List, and he's done

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some amazing stuff. And I love how off the rails

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he gets in this movie because he also gets to

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have those moments where he can express some some rage,

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you know, some anger, and also like when he has

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his his meltdown, you know, yeah up to it's.

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Exactly one of the things that you know that I loved.

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There's just so much to love about this movie that's

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gonna come up a lot. I'm sorry everybody, because this

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is such a good movie. One of the scenes that

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I absolutely love is like when Clifford is there and

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they're having the conversation, but my Brol is having this

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side conversation that you know where it's going. He's talking

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about murdering Clifford and his wife without trying to say

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don't murder him, she's trying to convince him not to

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murder him. In the same conversation. I just thought that

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was brilliant.

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That is some of the like when you when you

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think about the writing in this movie. Because I know

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Ira eleven, you know, he did the stage play. I

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think he was involved with with Jay Preston Allen on

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the screenplay. Yep. And let's let's uh, you know, quick

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nod to her. This isn't her her first, her first,

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big big deal, you know, this is the one. This

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is the woman that wrote Cabaret. You know she she

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was uncredited on the seventy sixth version of A Star

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is Born. So we're talking about some amazing writers. And

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it shows, it really shows this and uh, I have

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to agree with your that double conversation happening between three

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people where you know, the veiled warnings, you know, Sydney,

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my heart won't take it.

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And then to learn what the whole there was always

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just a performance just to get hurt, the whole thing.

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It's just like, are you kidding me?

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She's God bless her. She she's she's an innocent you know,

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she's she's the the uh.

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The pure character's wife. You know, she's there for her husband,

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you know, just you feel bad for her, you do.

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I I feel bad for her. But let's I'm gonna

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be fair. She is incredibly annoying in the film Scream.

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Oh my gosh, that's the thing.

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I can I'm not even talking about the Scream. I'm

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just talking about when I'm talking about when she has

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her her her big monologue, her big monologue, her big opening,

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you know, and she's just she's just loud, she is

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and obnoxious. I just I'm thinking, man, you gotta you

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gotta get her under control. Well, he does under control,

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he does, Oh, he certainly does. But you're right, you do.

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You do feel bad for her. And if there's any

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any comfort in in her death scene, at least she

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wasn't murdered in the traditional sense. You know, she didn't

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suffer pain.

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You know, she went, she went in a natural way.

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I guess, yeah, you could say.

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So, because, uh, you know Mayra. Mayra has an incredibly

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weak heart. She's had minor heart attacks. That's what we

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know about her. She's incredibly wealthy. And and Michael Caine,

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his character Ciddy Brule, who kind of like a one

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trick pony. He had this amazing hit what went on

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and on on Broadway and then he's this is his

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fourth flop for you able to find out. Ye, and

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he's washed up and people are done with him. I

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love the the actual film critics that double as themselves.

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That was brilliant.

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Yeah, that was a lot of fun. So I enjoyed

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seeing that. Uh, and they're just talking about how this

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guy he's done.

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He's washed up.

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So it's not like he needs the money, but he's

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so he's so full of himself that he wants his

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fame and fortune based off of his fame and fortune

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and not her family's money. So right, right, But.

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Just to get back to Michael Kaine a little bit,

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you know, he's just done so much stuff. I don't

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think he's been in If he's been in any bad movie,

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it's not because of him, because his performance and everything

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is always top notch. And again in this film, it's

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top notch. Yeah.

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I can't think of anything where he wasn't incredible.

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Right, So there's a scene I thought was kind of funny.

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Well it's not really funny, but it's just the scene

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where Brawl and Clifford are discussing. Well, Bral finds out

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what Clifford is writing. Yeah, and they have this big

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long dialogue scene of like you know that they he

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shouldn't do it, where when he's fighting saying that he

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should do it because it's obviously about what took place

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of them murdering you know, his wife. But there's when

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you're listening to Michael Kane brawl talk Michael King I swear,

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I swear, and you can go back and watch the movie.

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I swear he's Emperor Palpatine at times because you hear

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his voice. You hear his voice at times you could

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hear the Emperor Palpatine saying the same damn things. It

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was like, oh, man, I don't know if it's the

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English accent or what it is, but I'm telling you

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it's there. It's there.

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Yeah, this is a really tight cast.

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I mean it is, and not a big cast.

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No, we got these well, you're talking about five characters overall. Really,

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you know, you've got Sydney Sydney and Myra Brule. You

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got Clifford Anderson, You've got the the the nosy neighbor,

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the psychic Hellga Tendorp. And then you have his agent,

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or not his agent, his lawyer, the lawyer. Yeah, the lawyer.

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So one character though, because we're talking characters real quick,

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let's talk about this this house.

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Oh my gosh, the wind mill house.

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The windmill house. This is this is a gorgeous, gorgeous house.

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Uh it And you know when you watch it, I

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can see how this is such a fun stage play

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to see. Yeah, because of the the way the house

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is is built. But I love the fact that they

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take it, they take the time to to get some

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exterior shots because it is an actual place. Yeah, it's

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you know the windmill house in uh in Long Island.

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So yep.

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I just love the look at that house. Man.

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You know, I would love to own that house, Jeff.

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At that open place, fire that fireplace, it's like in

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the center of the room.

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Yeah, it's like the kids all like like opened up

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in there, just like it's beautiful. And how you get

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like the bedroom is like underneath like where the windmill turns.

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Yeah, the windmill turn that's yeah. Such his office with

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all the all the weapons on the water from his

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his stage plays and his collections. Yeah. I absolutely love

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this house. It captivates you.

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I think it really really does. And it's such a

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great centerpiece for this film. You know, I mean there's

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only like what four sets. I think, like you have

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the playhouse, the train station, the cemetery, and the house itself,

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which I mean it's it's based off of a play,

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so of course you're gonna have very simple sets because

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you can't be all over the place on a play.

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So and it worked perfect for this fear.

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Yeah, this is the what do they call this? This

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is the the one set, two act, five character play. Yep,

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that's the formula.

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Yep. It works because it's tight, it does. Yeah.

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No, And I like the fact you see like his

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his his performance, you know, like the you know, the

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the death Trap to play at the Music Box theater

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that was actually in production. It was, it was going

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on while they were filming this, So I think it's

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really cool that they were just like, hey, we're gonna

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use the stage settings, yeah, for the movie.

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Also that that's great. Yeah, absolutely, And not often you

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get the chances to do that. I'm telling you. I

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don't think anything has happened since then, has it. I

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think this is like one of the few movies that

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was able to do that.

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It's gotta be the only if there, if there's it,

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if there's another one, I don't know it, but yeah, yeah,

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let's uh, you want to talk about some characters that

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you want to talk about some actors that that aren't

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in death Trap. Okay, so listen to this one. First off,

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the chemistry between the three of them is fantastic.

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Oh, it's spot on.

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Let me ask you, how would you feel about watching

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Death Trap if Jack Lemon and Anne Bancroft had played

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the Brules and Dustin Hoffman was Clifford Anderson.

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Oh, would take a different spin? I would feel on that.

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I can see it. Yeah, I think it definitely would

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work without a doubt. I mean, it's hardestcaptions. We're so

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used to Cane and Reeve and Cannon playing us roles.

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But no, I can definitely could see that. That'd be interesting,

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it would.

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I think it makes it a more a more serious film. Yeah,

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because by far, I don't I don't see I don't

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see am bankrupt flying off the handle the way Diyan

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Cannon is able to. But I could see Jack Lemon

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having some some of these outburst scenes.

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Yea, I think.

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That would have been great. Now I'm not I'm not

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gonna trade it though, Like if you gave me my

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troubles to hey, trade the cast? What do you want

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to do I'm sticking with who we got. But that

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would that would have been a that would have been

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a bad way to go or is all I'm going

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to say?

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Right, Yep, I would agree.

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So, Dave, you gave us a quick synopsis about the movie.

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Any any background about, you know, how the movie came

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to be though, like what you got on the film's production.

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Yeah, absolutely so. Variety back then, which was a magazine

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and I think they're still around, but they reported that

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Warner Brothers purchased this the rights to this stage play

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for one million dollars at this time. Yeah, at this time,

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that was apparently the most ever expensive purchase for a

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movie's rights that was non musical. So think about that.

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They knew the success of this already because as we

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all know, you know, we've already discussed this, it's based

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off of the play. But it ran for one seven

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and ninety three performances. Think about that, I think, and

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I could be wrong, but I think that holds the record.

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It may not to this day, but I believe that

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holds a record for the long one of the longest

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running performances of a Broadway play. That's a long time, man,

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that's a lot of performances, so you can clearly see

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they saw value in it as well as the doin

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in Broadway that they wanted to make a movie off

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of it. But anyway, director Lumett once come in on

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the real stage play scenes in this movie, which I

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here's a quote from him, and I think it's kind

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of neat, especially the end of the quote. It says,

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we use the original set of death Track as our

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set for Sydney Brawl's flop play. The music Box theater

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is dark on Mondays, so we shot there on a Monday,

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along with six hundred dressed extras as first night ers. Thus,

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the opening scene is a movie of a play within

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a play, which takes place within the play on which

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the movie is based. If that's not completely clear, it's

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at least a first I love that quote. I love

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that quote because.

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He starts to starts to lose you there for a

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quick second, Like, right, he's the mastermind of a twist

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and turns movie is giving a twist and turn answer exactly, yeah,

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so uh, because you I mean this this play is

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running as they're doing the production, So I was just wondering, like,

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when are they using the stage the stage.

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House on Mondays.

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It's like it's just said on Mondays is dark.

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Okay, Yeah, so they were able to use this then, yeah,

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but his other one, so, according to he says, a

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melodrama in this speaking of death Trap, A melodrama like

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death Trap requires a different set of movie muscles. You

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shoot right, act and edit for story. The object is

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to have fun, and if you take yourself seriously, you're dead.

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The line between good mystery and good comedy is very thin,

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a knife edge. Both take delicate timing, and when an

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audience is really scared, their natural reaction is to laugh.

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I like that this. He he was such an amazing director. Yeah,

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I mean we get to his filmography. I know we're

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gonna have to just kind of skip around a little

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bit and just hit the hit the highlights. But right man,

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I love I love hearing I love hearing directors talk

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about their work.

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Me too. I love it, especially once they're on a

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round anymore. I love to hear what they had to

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say about their work, you know, because we don't have

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that opportunity to interview them or speak to them right now,

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you know. Yeah, so it's neat to get to be

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able to see that one other thing that I guess

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we should probably talk about is the controversial kiss. Yeah.

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I mean, if this was shot today, no, it's the

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this is the biggest nope, you know, who cares thing,

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but right, but in nineteen eighty two, this is a

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big deal. It's it's huge, right Yeah.

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Yeah, So the play didn't have it, by the way,

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but they did it for the movie.

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Yeah, the movie. You know, sometimes you gotta you gotta

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tweak a story just so the movie's a little bit

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different or has some some you know, wow factor, and

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you know, like we talked about, so these guys, it's

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it's all a setup to to provoke the wife into

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having a coronary, which she does that you know, he

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he murders quote unquote Christopher Reeve to get his uh

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stage play. Reeves comes back to life, just intense rage

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monster that he is. He comes crashing through the window.

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He's covered in blood and mud and just has that

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just murder look in his eyes, and she cannot handle it.

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I mean, for all she knows he has come back

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to life and just murdered her husband, and that's too

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much for her. So but then we find out, you know,

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these guys have been meeting in secret. They had been

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rehearsing it, and the whole plan was to get her

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money and then live a happy life together. Right. Yeah.

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I think in the original play it's intended that their

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partners were not in the romantic sense, right. So that's

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that's one thing that Lumit changed for the movie is

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he made them secretly.

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They were a couplet. And I think it was a

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bold move for the director and for them to do

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this because, like you said, at this time, you know,

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nineteen eighty two, you didn't do this kind of stuff

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on Streen. It just wasn't seen. And when you had it,

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it was pretty controversial, especially for two big performers like this.

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You know, yeah, this is and well and you know,

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you got to think about you gotta be you gotta

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think about where we were in America at this point,

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the the the what was it, what was you know,

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what was deemed appropriate if you will. So the idea

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of seeing Superman kiss another man that was shocking for audiences.

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You know, I think it works for.

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The movie because if you if IF your buddy, if

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you're if your business partner, you know, tries to convince

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you to help him murder his wife.

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Are you gonna You're not gonna do that? You know,

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I think that them being a romantic couple kind of

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creates it kind of creates the passion that that one

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would need to be talked into something as outlandish as this,

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as this plot is. You know, you'd have to you'd

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have to care about someone on a on a whole

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other level. And aside from I mean I'm talking aside

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from one split second kiss that they share, that's all

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you really see. That's it's you know, the rest of

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the movie. If you had missed that scene, you would

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have you wouldn't even know, you know, he would just

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assume that they're just business partners because exactly, you know,

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they don't play it. They don't play to us, They

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don't play a certain type. You know.

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It's what I feel because even when his lawyer comes in,

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you know, in Cliffer's like typing and stuff like that,

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saying that he's his secretary and stuff like that, you

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don't even you wouldn't even think that you're right if

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you miss the kiss.

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Absolutely, yeah, you know, And even Sidney has that great,

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that great line with the with the lawyer where he's like, well,

469
00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:35.720
imagine if I had taken a female you know, secretary,

470
00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:37.720
what would people say after the death of my wife?

471
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.079
And you know, his his lawyer's like, oh yeah, I

472
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.680
think you're right, you know, yeah, I mean it makes sense,

473
00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:46.400
you're it does I commend him for it?

474
00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:47.960
Yeah? And that's going to show you the kind of

475
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:49.920
pull that director has, because I'm telling you right now,

476
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:52.519
I can almost guarantee that the studio was like throwing

477
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:54.720
a fit about that. No, we can't do this, we

478
00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:56.680
can't do that. You know, that's going to destroy us.

479
00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:58.920
It's going to destroy this film. And you know, the

480
00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:00.839
director must have had a lot of say we're going

481
00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:01.319
to do it.

482
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:04.160
And could you imagine could you imagine the studio had

483
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:06.400
seen dailies and go and just and like what did

484
00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:09.960
I just watch? You know? But you know the odd

485
00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:14.279
thing about this, Dave, is after this movie came out,

486
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:20.680
the stage play adapted to that and took it a

487
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:23.200
little bit further. You know, some of the stage plays

488
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:25.039
that you know, and I'm sure we're talking about off

489
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:28.640
off Broadway, but a lot of them, you know, embraced

490
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.160
the kiss and then even went with nudity in some

491
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:38.240
in some cases, so it definitely limits decision controversial at

492
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:41.079
the time as it as it was, it changed how

493
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:43.920
the play was was was carried out after that. So yeah,

494
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:49.200
brave choice and I'm okay with it. I gotta listen.

495
00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:53.519
We can't talk about this movie without addressing a couple

496
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:57.000
of superhero references, right we can.

497
00:25:57.079 --> 00:25:58.559
We got Michael Kaine and christ Of Reef.

498
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:01.319
Come on now, now we got Yeah, so let's look

499
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:05.599
at the obvious ones. You've got Superman and Alfred Pennyworth

500
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:10.160
you know, in this in this movie together. But there's

501
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.599
two other superhero connections to death Trap, and I'm gonna

502
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:17.279
challenge you. Do you think you know any of them?

503
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:20.119
You know, I read this, but I don't remember who

504
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:23.440
it was now. No, I can't think off the top

505
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:24.480
of my head right now.

506
00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:26.759
Okay, I got I got two for you. So we

507
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:31.200
talked about this house, actual estate in Long Island with

508
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:35.599
a working windmill. It went up for auction in twenty

509
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:40.880
seventeen and for twelve million dollars was purchased by none

510
00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:45.160
other than Tony Stark himself, Robert Downey Junior. For really.

511
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:47.440
That's awesome.

512
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.599
So the house where Alfred and Superman are hanging out

513
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:53.839
is actually owned by Ironman, iron Man, I got I

514
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:55.519
got one more for you though, and this is a

515
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:57.359
this is a much deeper cut. Are you ready for

516
00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.440
this one? Sure? All right, We've we've been talking about

517
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:02.279
how this has been a very successful stage play for

518
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:05.960
a long time, right, So I'll have you know that

519
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:11.640
during the nineteen seventy nine tour of death Trap, Clifford Anderson,

520
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.000
who has played brilliantly in the film by Christopher Reeve

521
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.920
Superman in nineteen seventy nine, on stage he was played

522
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:25.720
by Kevin Conroy. Really how about that? Yeah? Wow? Most

523
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:30.880
notably the uh probably the best voice actor for Batman

524
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.079
all the time he played Batman live action, you know,

525
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:39.440
Bruce Wayne and live action. So yeah, so yeah, Superman, Batman,

526
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.559
Alfred Ironman. I mean, this movie's got it all.

527
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:44.480
Give it up to death Trap for connections to the

528
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:45.319
comic book world.

529
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:50.680
Yeah right, yeah, Well, Dave, let's talk about you know,

530
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:52.319
and we'll have to we'll have to watch ourselves for

531
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.359
time here, but let's talk about some of the things

532
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:58.160
that we really like. Do you have specific couple what

533
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:03.240
specific scenes speak to you as like memorable or your favorite?

534
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:05.400
So I need to talk about a couple things me

535
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:08.559
being in a cinematographer a photographer. I love camera work.

536
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:12.200
I love camera movements. So when a movie does something

537
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.720
specific that just like, oh wow, that's cool. So this

538
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.279
movie does two things that I absolutely love. So one

539
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.680
of them is when Michael Caine brawl plays, you know,

540
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.240
calls Clifford on the phone and he's speaking to him

541
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.240
on the phone, the camera just does a three sixteen

542
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:30.039
just follows him. I don't know if you notice that

543
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.720
or not, but as he's walking around the room, the

544
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:36.240
camera stays in one spot and just follows him as

545
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.359
he's talking on the phone. I thought that was really cool.

546
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:40.720
Anytime a director does stuff like that, I'm like, yes,

547
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.160
that just adds so much a dimension to a film.

548
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:47.359
It does. But the other one was the shot which

549
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.960
it really you know, Clifford knew what was going on,

550
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.279
but it's still the shot was cool when Clifford got

551
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.000
put into the chair for the first time, he had

552
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.480
the handcuffs on, and that the camera was low and

553
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:02.079
it slowly comes up with the camera movement you are

554
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:08.240
realizing that Clifford's in trouble. As Clifford realizes he's in trouble, Yeah,

555
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.880
it was perfect. Loved that so much.

556
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:13.400
That is one of my favorite scenes in the movie

557
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:17.480
because at that point, we don't know what's going on, right,

558
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:22.160
we don't, and your your brain, you're I really feel

559
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.400
like you're connected to Myra at that point because she's

560
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:26.359
she's thinking is he really gonna do this? Is he

561
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.440
really gonna go through with it? You're forced into that

562
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.880
that feeling, that mindset, and just the feeling of helplessness.

563
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:39.240
That tight shot scrolling up up Christopher Reeve's body. You

564
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:43.279
feel so helpless in that moment, you do. And it's

565
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:48.400
the little things where he's trying to give himself some

566
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:51.920
kind of security, like oh, my friend's gonna call and yeah, uh.

567
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.759
And then Michael Kane's like you give him? And what

568
00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.759
He's yeah, that whole what number? Did you give them?

569
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:06.160
Any Quickly his hand covers the telephone where the numbers

570
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.319
and he's like three, two, four, But you know, it's

571
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:12.880
just like, uh, the first one he said. You're like, oh,

572
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.319
is it right? Is it right? And he's like, oh,

573
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.119
that's good. You know, you get that that momentary relief,

574
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:23.559
you know. And then even just with with Michael Caine

575
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.680
being like, oh, I thought you too, said I was

576
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.799
gonna do something crazy. You know, It's like everyone has

577
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:32.279
like a haha moment and then he goes into it boom,

578
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:35.240
you know, starts strangling with the chain. Wow. That is

579
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:36.119
such a great scene.

580
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.000
I know. And I'm telling you, you know, you hear

581
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:39.720
this all the time from actors that you're always so

582
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.279
supposed to perform with your eyes. Your eye says so

583
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.960
much without dialogue, use your eyes. That scene right there

584
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:49.279
is a specific example of why, because when Christopher was

585
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:51.160
just like looking at around that room, he looks to

586
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.519
the why looks, you know, to brawl. It's just amazing performance.

587
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:54.799
Man.

588
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:58.039
Yeah, that's probably one of my favorite scenes in the

589
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.279
whole in the whole film, Oh yeah, I could see that.

590
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:05.039
And the scene where Christopher Reeve kind of kind of

591
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.920
gnashes his teeth a little bit, you know, and and

592
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:12.200
yells at Michael Kane, you know, good to me. Uh.

593
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.400
You've never heard chrisoph eeg yell, you know, I mean,

594
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.680
beside aside from the the the afternoon that Lois Lane

595
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.240
got killed in the earthquake, you know, this was this

596
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.240
is a scary yell though. Uh. And you're terrified of

597
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.079
him in that moment because at this point, you know,

598
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:32.480
Christopher Reeve has been he hasn't been the the alpha

599
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.440
in the room, right, right, he has very he's been

600
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.359
very even once you you you see the turn and

601
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:40.960
you know, you find out that he's he's in on it,

602
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:43.359
and there he's a bad guy. He's kind of he's

603
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.480
kind of deviant, you know, he's kind of but.

604
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.680
He feels like he's playing along with brawl. He's not like,

605
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.200
you know, overpowering at any point.

606
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:51.559
He's not the mastermind.

607
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:53.920
No, until then it's like whoa.

608
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:57.640
Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you another thing. I like, uh

609
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:01.000
and this goes to the uh, the mark of the movie.

610
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:03.920
I just think it's fun seeing the you know, whether

611
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.920
you're looking at the poster or the DVD cover, the

612
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:11.400
blue red cover where they're kind of stuck inside the

613
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:12.920
this giant Rubus cube.

614
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:14.079
Yeah, that Rubi's Cube.

615
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.920
Yeah, yeah, so they were they use that. I looked

616
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:20.759
into this. They use that for two reasons. One, they

617
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.160
wanted some kind of puzzle box, because it's the whole

618
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:27.559
thing's a mystery, right, mystery. Also in nineteen eighty two,

619
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:29.799
Rubu's Cube is like at the height of its popularity.

620
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.279
It's like one of those I is selling puzzle toys

621
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.440
of all time. So yeah, yeah, let's just use it.

622
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.960
So I think that's kind of cool about it.

623
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.359
Actually too, I do want to throw out one other

624
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.200
like then I laugh, I laugh about it. It's when

625
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.640
Brawl comes in and his wife screams, and he says,

626
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:47.880
every time I come into this bloody house, you scream.

627
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.960
He's had such a rough he's had such a rotten night,

628
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.960
you know, his you know, opening night, he bombs, you know,

629
00:32:58.039 --> 00:32:59.839
he misses, you know, he gets drunk on the on

630
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.039
the shuttle home or whatever. And then it comes in

631
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.799
and then she screams and he drops the thing he's got.

632
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:11.400
Yeah, yeah, this I mean, I know in some in

633
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:14.400
some circles, this is considered like a dark comedy, a

634
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.640
murder mystery, a comedy. You know. I don't. I wouldn't

635
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:18.759
consider it a comedy. But there's no it's got a

636
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:20.559
lot of unintentional comedy.

637
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:21.599
It does, I think, you know.

638
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.079
Uh, And it's it's really like these in the moments

639
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.960
where you should be more you know, fearful for people

640
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.440
like but like Michael Kane's breakdown, you know, he's fantastic.

641
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.599
But speaking of breakdowns, I want to talk about something

642
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:40.079
I did. I don't like Okay, Diane Cannon is a

643
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:44.599
beautiful woman. She's a talented actress, and I don't understand

644
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:49.799
the motivation of the character being so over the top annoying.

645
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:54.640
I mean, she's she's just too loud. I don't get it.

646
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.319
I'm with you on that. No, you're not wrong, that's

647
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.400
that's actually the weakest part I think of this film

648
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.160
is her character.

649
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.079
Did you know she got? She was not she lost,

650
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.440
but she was nominated for Worst Actress at the Razzies. Yeah,

651
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:11.679
I mean I should say something.

652
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:13.719
It does. And I'll tell you I kind of mentioned

653
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.239
earlier when I talked about her scream. Dude, I'm change.

654
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.559
It's probably one of the worst screams I've heard in

655
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:20.760
a film like it just it's needed on me, It's

656
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.320
not at all, and it happened so many times. It just,

657
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:25.599
oh my god, just stop screaming, please.

658
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:30.800
I And you know her her debut, like her opening scene,

659
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:32.920
you know where she's in bed, she's watching the news

660
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:35.840
waiting for him to call I. I guess we should

661
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.360
have saw what was in store for us just from

662
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:41.920
that moment, because could you imagine calling home and your

663
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:49.360
wife being like sity. You know, she's screaming at him.

664
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:57.239
One I'm like, t take a pill. I don't. I

665
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:01.440
don't know. Yeah, I think I get that we need

666
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:06.000
her to be a little annoying because you not that

667
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:10.159
you should like Clifford and Sydney. But uh, there has

668
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:12.599
to be some kind of motivation and not just you know,

669
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:16.039
I mean, think about if she was supportive. You know. Look,

670
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.000
if I'm married to Diane Cannon and she's a millionaire

671
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:23.599
and she's still Diane Cannon and she's smart and supportive. Yeah, okay,

672
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.880
I'll just keep trying. Yeah, you know, so she had

673
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.320
to be she had to be a little a little grading,

674
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.320
I guess. But I think I think Diane Cannon just

675
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:33.119
went a little too hard.

676
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:36.039
As he did, Yeah, too hard on the performance there.

677
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.639
And that's my only dislike of the film. That's my

678
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:39.440
only dislike.

679
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.880
That's the only thing I could say, Uh, you know,

680
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.360
one more like if I can you know, because this

681
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.199
thing is just you know, every every time you turn around,

682
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.159
there's a new new twist hitting you. Yep, the ending,

683
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.320
Oh yeah with so we got yeah, with Helga, So

684
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:59.119
we got the the psychic who is a little bit

685
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.000
of a celebrity herself.

686
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:03.320
You know, she's she's the neighbor.

687
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:07.000
Yeah, she's been on TV and she's got the ominous

688
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.039
you know, watch out for the men in boots because

689
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:14.519
Christopher Reeve inexplicably wears hiking boots around the house, around

690
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:16.840
the house, like his pants are tucked into him. It's

691
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.320
just it's kind of a strange thing. You know, Superman

692
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:25.320
can do what he wants. But the whole thing where

693
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.519
you know, this plays out because it's like a double

694
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.159
cross and then another double cross because Michael Kaine's character

695
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:36.159
does not want you know you you mentioned this earlier. Uh,

696
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:40.599
he thinks, uh, Christopher Reeves Clifford is writing a stage

697
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.880
play about a welfare office, and then come to find

698
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.119
out he's writing death Trap. He's writing they did what

699
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.360
they did, point by point, and and then he's trying

700
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:55.280
to explain like, hey, the notoriety. You know, I can't

701
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.440
believe these guys wrote something about something that happened. You know,

702
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.400
he's he's eating it up up. Michael Kane doesn't want

703
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.760
to do it. And then Michael Kane seconds, Yeah, Michael

704
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:05.599
Hanes decides I have to kill this guy and get

705
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.480
it to him too, and when they're going back and forth,

706
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:10.719
and that's a great cat and mouse throughout the Oh yeah,

707
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:13.840
like the thunderstorm that has knocked out the power. Good

708
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:17.280
old Helga shows up and then you're like, you know,

709
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.639
there's a struggle, and you're like, what happened? And then

710
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:23.559
we cut to opening night of death Trap and it

711
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.000
turns out that Helga has written it. Yep, she basically

712
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.760
now yeah, she's she's she's got a whole new celebrity

713
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.000
because now she's a playwright. She has taken you know,

714
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:35.840
she she kind of knew what was gonna happen, then

715
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:37.719
she saw what happened, and then she wrote her own

716
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:41.159
version of it. So I love I love the the

717
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:44.679
triple twist indeed that this thing does. I think it's fun.

718
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:45.440
It is too.

719
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:46.599
I loved it very much fun.

720
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:50.280
You want to talk a little bit about uh about

721
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.639
uh Sidney Lemon himself. Yeah, let's do it, so, Dave,

722
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:57.400
I'm gonna start with just a few things about Sydney.

723
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.320
So if you have if you didn't know this, the

724
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:05.920
majority of his movies shot in New York, right, Yeah,

725
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.440
a lot of his stuff is New York based. Got

726
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.559
his starting off Broadway in TV, He made his film

727
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.960
debut with Twelve Angry Men in nineteen fifty seven.

728
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:16.760
Wow, what a way to think.

729
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.280
We were just talking about Taiko Watiti starting off with

730
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:26.880
an Oscar nominated project, you know, long before Taika Sydney's

731
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:29.360
doing it. Yeah, you know, because Twelve Angry Men got

732
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.039
three three Kademy Award nominations. That's a heck of a

733
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:33.440
start in Hollywood, right it is?

734
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:35.800
Yeah, yeah, I mean this can go from there.

735
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.719
Well, I can tell you. I don't know where you

736
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:39.960
can go, but I can tell you who you can

737
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.880
go with. Because he's worked with Brando Fonda, Catherine Hepburn,

738
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.119
he did five movies with Sean Connery. I mean, he

739
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:52.360
had a storied career. We're talking thirty Oscar nominations just

740
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:54.320
in the decade of the nineteen seventies alone.

741
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:55.400
Wow.

742
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.639
So when we talk about Hollywood royalty, we talk about

743
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.599
one of the greatest of all time. Here he is,

744
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:03.000
this is this is one of the names that has

745
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:07.000
been in the conversation. Right, absolutely no, And he even

746
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.800
received an Honorary Academy Award in two thousand and five

747
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:15.199
for Outstanding Contribution to Filmmaking. So just an amazing guy.

748
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.960
You know, and we'll I just want to talk about

749
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:20.280
a couple of movies just because I don't want it's

750
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.119
going too long. But you know, like I said, feature

751
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:27.079
film debut is Twelve Anger Men Henry Fonda, nineteen fifty seven.

752
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:29.960
This is in my top ten of all time to

753
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.719
this day. I absolutely love Twelve Anger Men.

754
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:36.800
You've seen it, Oh absolutely, I've seen that one. Yeah,

755
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.679
fantastic film. Fantastic If you've not seen that, that definitely

756
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.199
needs to be on your list to see. I don't

757
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.719
care if it's nineteen fifty seven. It is very well

758
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:46.760
put together film.

759
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:53.920
They business schools use that movie, yeah, to teach conflict

760
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:58.800
resolution and teamwork. Yep. That should tell you something. I mean.

761
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:03.280
And again and this is that that one one set piece,

762
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:04.199
you know exactly.

763
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.360
Yeah, It's That's what I was That's what I was

764
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.159
gonna say. Is I mean, that just proves you right there,

765
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.199
if you've got a well written script, you don't need

766
00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:14.360
a ridiculous amount of sets. One set. If that script

767
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.360
is written as good as twelve Agreement is, you're going

768
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.079
to have your audience on the edge of your feet

769
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:20.360
the whole time just from that.

770
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:22.840
Yeah, and this is one of those. I think they've

771
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.840
remade it once or twice, right a TV maybe, but

772
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:28.119
nothing compared to that one. Yeah, if you're not watching

773
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.239
the original one, you're missing out. There are so many

774
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:34.280
amazing performances in it. Absolutely, you know. Throughout the sixties,

775
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.760
uh kind of kind of dips back into television a

776
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.400
little bit here and there, uh, maybe one or two movies,

777
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.400
but then comes back roaring in nineteen seventy three. Al

778
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:49.480
Pacino is now a bona fide movie star thanks to

779
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:54.079
the Godfather. And we're talking about Curpraco, the uh you know,

780
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:57.000
true life story, you know, based off the true life

781
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.719
uh you know, Frank Curpraco. It's this is just gritty

782
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:06.760
police corruption crime movie. And limits known for doing these

783
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:11.239
types of movies, but based on what he has done,

784
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:15.360
this was the his first, was his best because Cerpraco

785
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.159
is awesome. You've what about Circraco.

786
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:21.519
I have not seen Cervico unfortunately, I know it's on

787
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:23.840
my list to watch.

788
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.840
So okay, yes, okay, wow, okay. Well a year later, though,

789
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.360
he jumps into the mystery game Murder on the Orient

790
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:35.239
Express nineteen seventy four. Yes, based off Agatha Christie you

791
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:38.480
mentioned at the beginning you you've seen both, right, correct, well,

792
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.599
obviously you saw the new one. Do you have a preference?

793
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.239
I mean I tough, right, It is very tough because

794
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.840
I love Kenneth Brona. He has such a good performance,

795
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.280
he directs well. But man, you got to give it

796
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.840
up to the one of the originals too. It's tough

797
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:55.639
to decide which one I like best. I have to

798
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:57.039
put them both on par you know.

799
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:01.960
Okay, that's fair, that's fair. Seventy five he re teams

800
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:06.599
with Pacino one of the best bank heist movies of

801
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:11.760
all time, Dog Day Afternoon. Talk about a pressure cooker

802
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:16.440
of a film, you know, Pacino playing a bank robber

803
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:21.519
who is trying to get money for his lover's sex change,

804
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:27.320
which I know sounds off the wall, but the way

805
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:32.480
he handles this material is is taken so seriously. It's

806
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:38.280
it's an afterthought because the tension rising between Pachino's character

807
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.880
and the police chief who's trying to get everybody out

808
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.400
and get everybody safe. It's it's one of the best

809
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.400
dynamics in a film, you know. But Pacino is just electrifying.

810
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:50.639
That's That's all I can say.

811
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.199
What did you think I've not seen dog Day Afternoon.

812
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:56.000
You haven't seen dog Day.

813
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:58.960
I'm telling you, apparently, I need to have a finny

814
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.760
Lumette day where I'm watching a bunch of these films

815
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.360
that I've missed out on, because I know he's got

816
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:06.599
quite a handful that are just absolutely spectacular that I've

817
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:07.440
not seen yet.

818
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.400
You at least, sir, sir, you at least owe yourself

819
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:12.760
a Paccino limit double feature.

820
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.679
I do two. Yep, all right?

821
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.679
What about what about Network nineteen seventy six?

822
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:18.800
I've not seen it?

823
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:20.519
You haven't seen Network.

824
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.440
I have not seen Network either, my lord. I know

825
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.119
my listeners are like, are you kidding me? Has he

826
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:27.239
not seen anything?

827
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:32.159
The the the emails are gonna be just piling up.

828
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:35.199
Why is this guy talking about Sidney La He hasn't

829
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:36.119
seen him his movies?

830
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:37.639
I promise, though, I will.

831
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.679
Okay, Well, Dave, let's jump ahead a couple of years.

832
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:50.519
I have to believe you saw The Wiz eight tell

833
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:54.239
us about your about your feelings about the Whiz, Dave, Yeah,

834
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:55.559
you better give these people something.

835
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:58.360
No, I mean, it's just what it's a different version

836
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.239
of like The Wizard of Oz, like some Guys, an

837
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:05.519
odd musical which I love you know, it's you know,

838
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.239
I grew up with a Wizard of Oz. So seeing

839
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.679
the Wiz and how it was something completely different but

840
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:15.320
yet still similar was very interesting and a great take

841
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:15.639
on it.

842
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:21.079
In nineteen seventy eight, whoever decided to take the Wizard

843
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:25.239
of Oz and recast it with Michael Jackson. Oh yeah,

844
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:28.119
that person just had the idea, hey, let's print money.

845
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:32.119
It's a brilliant move because obviously with you know, where

846
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:33.079
his career was going.

847
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.039
So yeah, and this was so fun. Yeah it will be.

848
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.039
It's nothing but fun. It's and the thing about the

849
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:41.760
thing about these movies we're talking about, you know, you know,

850
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:45.639
like I said twelve Angerman nineteen fifty seven, his Paccino

851
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:48.320
stuff in the early seventies, you know, the Wiz in

852
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:52.519
seventy eight, these movies do not lose their touch over time. No,

853
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:56.519
they're still They're just as prominent, just as good now

854
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:57.840
as they were then. I was, there's a.

855
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:01.280
Reason why they call them classics, because yeah, they earned

856
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:01.840
that term.

857
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.599
So nineteen eighty two, he does a double shot, He's

858
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.000
got death Trap, and then he follows it up with

859
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:15.960
the Academy Award nominated. The verdict with Paul Newman. Paul

860
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:20.159
Newman just incredible performance. You know it plays the alcoholic

861
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:25.440
lawyer from Boston. Probably one of the best courtroom movies.

862
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.880
I'm gonna count twelve year minutes a courtroom drama. We're

863
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.320
not in the courtroom per se, but I'd say that's

864
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.360
probably the best, or my maybe my favorite. The Verdict's

865
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.440
definitely up there in the top top two or three

866
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:40.559
as far as I'm concerned. What do you think about

867
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:41.119
the Verdict?

868
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:42.280
I've not seen that either.

869
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:44.480
Oh my lord, we're gonna lose this audience question.

870
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.239
If I know we are, They're all gonna hate me now.

871
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:48.920
They don't ever have data back on here Again, he

872
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:50.239
doesn't watch movies yet.

873
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:52.239
Yeah, those of you, for those of you listening that

874
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.599
are upset, please remember that in just a few short weeks,

875
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:01.480
Brad Couza will return to the film by podcast. I'm kidding, Dave,

876
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:07.320
I'm kidding. Listen. After We'll, We'll, we'll, we'll jump ahead

877
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.800
because like I said, well, this will quickly spin out

878
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.079
of our control, much like the plot of death Trap.

879
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.079
But it's amazing because he has such an incredible body

880
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:22.280
of work in the in the seventies and early eighties

881
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:24.480
and then things kind of got quiet down. Over the

882
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.840
next twenty years, he does some he does some movies

883
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:32.239
that I felt were they're definitely worth seeing. I mean

884
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.760
they're not They're not big movies though, Like you know,

885
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:38.599
when you think about something like Guilty of Sin, I

886
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.039
think that was like nineteen ninety two, ninety three maybe,

887
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.199
But Don Johnson. This is a chance for people to

888
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.159
see Don Johnson as a bad guy because you know,

889
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:51.199
he had been Sunny Crockett for the longest time, of course, yeah, yeah,

890
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.199
and to see him play a guy accused of murder.

891
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.280
You know, Rebecca deem again, lim it's back in the courtroom,

892
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:00.719
because this is a you know, Rebecca de Mornay is

893
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:05.760
a lawyer who's defending defending him but doesn't really want to.

894
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.159
I mean, he's Don Johnson is about as charming as

895
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.920
a Denio, as Max Katie and Kate fear, you know,

896
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:15.800
but that tells you that he's a slime ball. So

897
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:18.320
she's got to make the choice. But uh, you know,

898
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:20.159
he he's got a couple, you know, he did.

899
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:20.360
Ah.

900
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:23.360
I want to say it was what was the James

901
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.760
What was the James Spader Hospital movie? Critical Critical, care critical,

902
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:31.400
think not bad, not bad. It was believe Yeah, that

903
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.079
was a satire, way bad. Uh. His final film though,

904
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.880
in two thousand and seven, Before the Devil Knows You're Dead.

905
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.199
I mean, if if a director is going to retire,

906
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.159
you always hope that they're going to retire the last

907
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:47.840
film they do is going to be a really good one. Right,

908
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:50.199
maybe not the best movie, but you always want them

909
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.559
to go out with a with a great one, retire

910
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.840
with a great one. I'm gonna I'm gonna give it

911
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.079
to him. I think he did, because Before the Devil

912
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:01.000
Knows You're Dead. Fantastic movie. Uh, Phillip Seymour Hoffman in

913
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:05.960
one of his better roles. Uh, you got Ethan Hawke

914
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.679
just tearing it up on the screen and uh, you

915
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:13.559
know she had been gone for a little bit. But

916
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:18.519
h Marissa Tomey. M I'll tell you what if, if

917
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:20.119
you're a fan of Maurissa Tomey, you need to see

918
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.320
Before the Devil Knows You're Dead. I'll just that's all

919
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.880
I'll say on that one. Yeah, just an incredible movie.

920
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:29.760
Definitely incredible. Now. Uh. You know here's the thing, though, Dave,

921
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.920
he did pass away in twenty eleven, so I know

922
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:34.360
we'd like to talk about what we'd like to see

923
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.920
next we do. Yeah, So I'm gonna I'll change it up.

924
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.599
I'll ask you know, you know, we just found out

925
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.320
you there's a lot of great films by this man

926
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:47.159
that you have not seen yet. Yep. So I'm gonna

927
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:51.000
ask you, like, what what would you want to see?

928
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:51.519
Uh?

929
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.079
You know if I'm gonna say, hey, watch watch the

930
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:56.800
Sitting Limit movie tonight. Which one you're gonna go with?

931
00:48:57.519 --> 00:48:58.920
What are you gonna Sart're gonna you're gonna do like

932
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:02.599
the Pacino stuff you want to do like a network.

933
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:05.800
I know I'm actually gonna do a double feature. Yeah,

934
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:07.840
I'm actually gonna do a Curfait co and Dog Day Afternoon.

935
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:10.920
I need I need to see both of those films

936
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:13.679
as soon as possible, especially as much as you have

937
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.079
talked immensely on how good they are, and I know,

938
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:18.960
you know, Oppatuno and stuff like that. What a great

939
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.719
performer he has. Everything he's been in he has been phenomenal.

940
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:23.760
So I know I'm in for a treat with those films,

941
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:25.960
and especially with Sydney directing.

942
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.559
As far as Death Trap goes, Dave, where did you

943
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see this. Did you watch this on Prime or do

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you have a copy of it?

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Was a Netflix? Well you mean this this recently? So

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I watched it on Amazon Prime. Okay, so years ago

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you got the red envelope. I didn't.

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I don't think people can get that anymore, but.

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Yeah, you know they can.

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Yep. Okay, uh yeah, I got the Blu ray transfer.

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Looks really good. If you're wanting to pick up a

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copy of it, definitely spend the I think it was

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like nine or ten bucks on Amazon, not a whole lot.

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Well worth nine or ten well worth it. So you'd

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recommend seeing this film?

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Oh, absolutely see this film. Hopefully you took my vice

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at the beginning and stopped to go see it and

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then come back to the podcast.

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Anytime you watch a murder mystery, you never want to

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know the mystery before you want.

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You don't it ruins them for you, man. I mean,

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I would hate somebody to ruin that for me. I

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really would, especially as many twist as this film has.

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All Right, Well, if you like what you heard, please like, share, subscribe, follow,

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do all that good stuff. You can check us out

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on www dot a film by podcast dot com. You

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can reach out to us at a film by podcast,

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at gmail dot com, or on Facebook and Twitter. You

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can always drop us a line at a film by podcast.

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If you have some recommendations for Dave on which city

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limit movies he should be watching, please let him know,

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because we gotta get this guy caught up, so we do.

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Until next time, The copp