May 10, 2026
Ted Demme - Blow

Welcome to Depp & Marsden Month! Jeff and Brad wax intellectual on Johnny Depp and a movie they believe is one of his finer performances. Anybody got a mirror? Let's talk about a film by Ted Demme; his 2001 crime drama Blow! Check out our NEW...
Welcome to Depp & Marsden Month!
Jeff and Brad wax intellectual on Johnny Depp and a movie they believe is one of his finer performances. Anybody got a mirror? Let's talk about a film by Ted Demme; his 2001 crime drama Blow!
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Jeff and Brad wax intellectual on Johnny Depp and a movie they believe is one of his finer performances. Anybody got a mirror? Let's talk about a film by Ted Demme; his 2001 crime drama Blow!
Check out our NEW YouTube Channel and subscribe now! Our new series Previously On... is exclusively available over on YouTube to cover your favorite TV shows, and ours!
Would you like to hear the show early and ad-free? Head over to our Patreon and get started with a FREE 7-day trial. We've got plenty of exclusive content and episodes that you'll only find there! You can also sign up as a free member!
Connect with us on social media and our website!
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So Johnny Depp has ninety nine acting credits, and I
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think he's got two things in production now. In our
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seventh season we have covered two of them. Our limited
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nineteen eighty six series did Platoon. Okay, but that's an ensemble.
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It's an ensemble. But you know, I'm just I gotta
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be fair. Dep wasent it, and then a few seasons
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back we did the Hughes Brothers from Hell. Okay, Jack
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the Repper movie, which is with Heather Graham, which is
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just incredible. So let me ask you, what is your
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favorite Johnny Depp performance? And sub question, what do you
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think is one of his most underrated performances.
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Okay, so favorite Johnny Depp performance is going to be
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is going to be Edward. I mean, he's just stellar in.
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That good Edwood.
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Now his underrated performance is Donnie Brasco. I showed my
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wife Donnie Brasco, she hadn't seen it for the first time,
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and I told her it was like, it's not only
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a good great performance by Puccino because it's not his
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typical gangster type of role. But I was like, this
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is depth showing that he can be a leading man
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and doing not so weird stuff. He can play straight,
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and when he plays straight, he's actually really good. He
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doesn't always have to be strange, and I think he's
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His performance in in Donny Brasco is great.
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It's fantastic, It's it's a it's an amazing film. I
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was gonna say, my my favorite performance probably probably what
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he did on the witness stand with that defamation trial
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with uh Amber heard. He was awesome.
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I mean he was watched with his giant mug, his
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giant mud.
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Yeah, all jokes aside. I think I might be in
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between Donny Rasco and Sleepy Hollow because we grew up
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that Sleepy Hollow. You know, nikobob Crane is supposed to
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be this cowardly guy. But I loved how he was
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kind of like a new age detective in that.
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You know, there are people that are, you know, in
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their teens that don't know there was a Johnny Depp
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before Pirates of the Caribbean. And there was a lot
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of good movies and performances before Pirates of the Caribbean
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and afterwards, but you know, from the very beginning, I mean,
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look at him in Nightmare and Elm Street.
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He I love that he gets his start like, like
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so many great actors and actresses, he gets a start
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on Elm Street and Nancy's Boyfriend. That was great. I
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think I think his his uh, if we're talking underrated performances,
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his role in Secret Window, which I was.
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Just thinking about that movie as as I was watching
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blow just because just going through all of his minds
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of this well, and I just thought of another one too.
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Okay, well, Secret Window. What what terrifies me is that
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I relate to him so much. And what's also terrifying
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is that I relate to his character so much. If
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you know, you know, like if you've seen Secret Window
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like I I, I'm rooting for him through that whole
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movie until the end, which we should do Secret Window
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at some point. What you said, you got another one?
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What else are you thinking of it?
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I mean, they're all just kind of popping in mind
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right now. But a movie that I'm pretty sure you
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saw with me that should not work on paper, and
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it surprisingly does work. Don Juan DeMarco strange but loveable.
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How do you know he's not done one?
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I mean you got that should not have a Marlon
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Brando and Fade done away, three of the most difficult
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people to work with in the world, and they turn
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out this little movie that's really endearing.
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He's he's incredible, and it's for that reason. We're in
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a new month. This month, you know, we're having fun
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this this this year, this season, we're kind of doing
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we're celebrating the Anniverse, the twentieth and the twenty fifth
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anniversaries of movies two thousand and one, two thousand and six.
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We're we're having like these theme months. We're gett we're
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kind of having some fun. Like last month we did
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we did nas Nascar and nights. You know, we talked about,
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you know, a lot of a lot of fun movies.
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But this month it's kind of a simple theme. It's
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it's Depp in Marsden, Johnny Depp, James Marsden. The it
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just worked out. That's the theme. So we're kicking things
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off with blow and we got some fun ones coming.
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But let's I want to talk about another Johnny Depp movie. Obviously,
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and you might I would say it's an underrated performance,
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it's an amazing performance. Let's talk about a film by
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Ted Demi, his two thousand and one biographical crime drama below. Hello, everybody,
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I'm Jeff Johnson. I'm Brad Kozo and this is a
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film by podcast. So this season Brad can be heard
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at the end of every month on our latest limited series,
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A Script By, which was created by hosted by Brad Kozo.
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I'm loving I'm loving this, man.
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I'm having fun doing it. Every time I finish an episode,
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I get this kind of giddy feeling, you know, like, hey,
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you did it did pretty well, you know. I like
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the way it turned out.
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I think it's doing. Yeah, I'm I'm watching, I'm watching
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the analytics on. I'm seeing the downloads.
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Yeah, I'm getting getting better as I progress on and
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excited to get into uh next, well, this month's episode
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where we're.
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Gonna talk about that. Yeah, yeah you want to.
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Yeah, this movie prepares me kind of for it.
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Yeah.
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It's a kind of mood crime. Yeah.
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I gotta be honest with you, you know, because you've
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you've had some stellar stuff already. Last month, you did
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Get Out Jordan Peel's script for Get Out Ye with
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the Voice of Reason herself Amber Lewis. I loved it.
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I thought I.
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Thought you guys that one was fun.
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If if if I thought you and Chuck needed like
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your own show. Now, I'm like, maybe maybe you know,
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maybe Amber needs to be like a recurring star and
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like you, you you bring out the best in everybody though,
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And I know Angel has done done an episode looking
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forward to look at it. I continue to look forward
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to to what you're doing. Well. Thanks shout out not
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just to Brad, but to all of our new subscribers
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on on YouTube. Uh kind of too many to mention
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right now, Brad, but uh, we are having a blast
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Brad we her and I go way back. It's been
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a while, but I was it was a pleasant surprise.
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I was on Patreon the other day and it's like, hey,
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I was really sweet of her, so so so Vicky. Yeah, Vicky,
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if you're listening to to this episode, welcome to the
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Patreon family. And uh we're happy to have you so. Brad,
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we've discussed Ted Demi before. We talked about the ref
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a couple seasons ago during Christmas. Uh, our good buddy
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Andy Frye, author Andy Frye. He joined us for our
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nineteen ninety six series we did Beautiful Girls and uh yeah,
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and now we got we got a new one. So
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we've talked about Ted Demi. H and it's not easy,
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like when we've covered directors a couple of times, it's
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it's kind of it's not easy to turn over new information.
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So but I got I got three things here for
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you and I and I quote this one. I had
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to re. I had to mention this one again. Uh
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I did. I said this on the ref but it
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it's too good not to mention again. Ted Dimmy began
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his career as a production assistant on MTV kind of
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kind of works his way up. Ultimately, this is the
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guy that creates Yo MTV raps in Ted Dimmy, like,
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what what are we doing here? Like it's well that
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first time, come on, man, I love it.
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The first time I heard of Ted Demi is when
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he took ed Lover and Doctor Dre and made a
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little movie that is another underrated, funny and fun movie
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called Who's the Man?
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Who's the Man?
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Lot lots of cameos in it. Lots of Ted Demi regulars,
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but of funny and a good you know, if you
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like films like like Running Scared or you know The
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Last Boy Scout, you know, a little action comedy stuff
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like that, it's you'll you'll love that movie.
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Yeah. Ted Demi was a big fan of foreign films
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and admittedly was heavily influenced by the films of Fellini
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and our guy Akira Kirasawa. Uh. Interesting. I just found
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that out tonight about Kirasawa, and what a coincidence. We
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pulled a we were running behind schedule last month, we
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were running behind, we pulled one from the vault. It
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was a Kira Kira. I was a rain of blood. No, sorry,
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thrown a blood. I think it's Lairer Yeah, uh thrown
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a blood. Uh. Brad Kozo uh co hosted episode. People
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are like a lot of a lot of feedback, Well,
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Brad's Brad's back Kirasawa. I was like, no, no, that's
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it's a classic. It's we we you know, had had
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to pull out.
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But I try to get into some Fellini. That's that's
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one I've never gotten into. I I've dug into Curas.
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I'm gonna try some Fellini and I'll tell you what
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you you you you.
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Do that you let me know. I trust your opinion.
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I just I just seems it just seems pretentious.
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I don't know.
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I want to be wrong. Maybe I'm sure I'm wrong.
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But what's his what's his go to film? Eight and
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a half?
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Everyone talks and a half I know is one?
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Yeah, are you gonna start with that eight and a half?
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Probably?
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Yeah, Well we're not. This isn't the fleeing Felleni episode.
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This is the episode so uh one more thing uh
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ultimately uh. Before his untimely death, he was a proponent
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of legalizing marijuana, claiming, hey, if tequila is legal, then
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pot should be legal too.
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Sad that he did not live to see that. Yeah, like,
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but it happened. It happened now. On the making of Blow,
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he is quoted as saying, there are a lot of
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films that are drug dramas, and we didn't want to
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tell Scarface again, right, I don't. I don't think he did.
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I don't think this is Scarface. I don't think it's
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a rehash Brad a five word synopsis? Okay, what do
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you got?
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It's six? But the The one other word is like it,
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but it's it's kind of a filler word. It's the
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word in okay. But I think this let's see Bachelor's
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of marijuana, doctorate and cocaine.
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That is an amazing line from the movie, right I listeners,
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it is it's the extra.
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Word in that that that makes it.
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I'll tell I'll tell you what you got you guys.
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You guys can comment if you're watching this on YouTube,
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if you're listening to it on Spotify, if you're just
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hit us up on social media, if you think it's
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okay for Brad to sneak in a sixth word Brad,
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if I let this happen, I will never hear the
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end of it. From Amber, Amber hates the five words synopsis.
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And if you open, if you crack the door open,
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then everyone else is just gonna kick it open. And
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I got like a seven word synopsis. It's a five
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word synopsis.
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I think you need like a one two breathing room.
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I don't know about that. It's that's you know, the
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point of the game is that you only get five
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words and you have to use all five all right,
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next time? I okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna help
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you out here my five words synopsis. If someone wanted
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to know what is blow all about? Pot dealer upgrades
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with cocaine. Yeah, see five words? Yeah, Brad, Can I
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offer you my picks for what I would call the
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Drug Dealer Trilogy? Can we talk about this for a minute.
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There could be so many there, there could be there
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could be. Yeah. I love made I love self made trilogies,
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so please please.
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uh the Michael Mann. I call it the Palm Tree Trilogy.
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And people are like, I love the Palm Tree Trilogy.
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I created the Palm Tree Trilogy. I came up with that.
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So I need I need a more clever name for this,
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because Drug Dealer Trilogy just sounds generic. But you know,
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I'm kind of on the fly here. Okay. I'm gonna
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give you a Scarface in nineteen eight three, Okay, New
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Jack City in nineteen ninety one. Okay, And and I
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want to say American gangster. But I think I'm doing
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blow if for no other reason, Cliff Curtis's cameo is
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