Dec. 13, 2024

Tiffany Helm Discusses Friday the 13th: A New Beginning

Tiffany Helm Discusses Friday the 13th: A New Beginning
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Season 5 A Film By...

It's Friday the 13th! Actress Tiffany Helm joins Jeff and David to discuss her character, Violet, and take us back behind the scenes of Friday the 13th Part V: A New Beginning! It's not all dancing and hockey masks, though. Tiffany shares her passion for photography and details about her upcoming Christmas-themed horror film, Catnip!

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Hello, everybody, Season's beatings to each and every one of you.

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That's right, you heard me right. We're going to put

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a pause and all the goodwill toward men and the

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holly jolly stuff, because today is Friday the thirteenth, and David,

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I know you are excited about that.

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Absolutely, I'm excited about that.

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Dave, you have talked about Friday the thirteenth before. Obviously,

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you and I are huge fans of this franchise. I

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know Friday the thirteenth was your first R rated film,

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it was, but I'm curious, what was your first Friday

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the Thirteenth film in the theater? Do you remember?

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I absolutely remember. I didn't get to see one through

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four in the theater, so my first experience was Friday Thirteenth,

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Part five, A new Beginning in the theater.

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That is quite fortuitous today because we have a special

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guest with us, Dave, that I am so excited about. Obviously,

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today is a great day to talk about a Friday

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the Thirteenth film, So why don't we discuss Friday the thirteenth,

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a new beginning, and let's bring on a very special

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guest with us, shall we. I'm talking about Tiffany Helm,

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who fans of the franchise will know as Violet. Hey, guys,

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David Tiffany, Hello, welcome to a film buy. We are

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so excited to have you here with us.

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I'm so excited to be here too, So that makes

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three of us.

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All right, excellent, excellent, So Tiffany, before we get going

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on on Friday the thirteenth, in the beginning, we go,

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we gotta ask, like, what initially inspired you to pursue

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a career as an actress. Was it? Was it a

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particular film, was it a director? Was it an actress?

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Was it a performance? Can you give us a little

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bit of details.

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Well, I'd say, I mean it I could just say

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because it's a family thing, but I'll say it's an actress.

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It was my mom, right, so you know I was.

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I guess I'm one of those NEPO babies, lower ranking

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NIPO baby, but nonetheless, yeah, because my aunt, my dad,

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cousin's mom, we're all, we're all in the industry. So yeah,

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I just kind of fell into it. I didn't actually

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expect to be bitten by the bug or maintain it.

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I mean, I was pretty active in my theater department

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in high school, but I just I kind of got

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into modeling as a way of thinking, Okay, so it's

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that's not really acting. So I get like sucked into

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it because I also was really afraid of not getting

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like a real career or something. So but lo and behold,

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I the bug managed to find me and drag me

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down into its steps.

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Well we're glad it did, because I love to see

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you in front of thirteenth.

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So very fortunate. I mean, I know we're gonna get

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into your filmography a little bit here later, but I'm

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I'm a big fan of all your work, if I'm

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if I'm being honest, so.

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So dave you.

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I can't imagine there is someone listening right now that

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that needs to hear this news. But let us let

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us know what, give us give us the background on

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Friday the thirteenth, A new a new beginning, which what

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is this one about?

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So just when you thought it was over, he is

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back in a new beginning. Tommy Jarvis was never able

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to officially get over the death of his mother in

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the attack of Jason Vorhees, So now he finds himself

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arriving at Pinehurst, a youth development center. It is here

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that Tommy joins others who are struggling with their own

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mental health issues. Tommy does his best to fit in

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and do his part to try and get back to

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himself so he can rejoin society. But once again, people

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start dying around him, and the nightmares begin repeating itself.

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It seems to tear himself is back, Jason vorhees, and

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no one is safe.

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Wait a second, David is your real name?

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Chat gpt No, Tiffany, I'll tell you right now if

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you if you catch any of our episodes where where

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Dave is with us, he is.

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He is a very talented writer, a very talented uh

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speaker and director. So he uh he writes, He writes

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some good uh he writes synopsis that are better than

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what you'd read on the back of the box. Thank you.

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Who needs to see the movie, right, Tiffany, I know

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we talked about Friday the thirteenth. We love Friday the thirteenth,

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And as I said, this is my first film that

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of Friday third that I saw in the theater. So

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tell me a little bit about the audition process for

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this film. Was there a specific scene that you had

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read for?

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You know, I get asked stuff like this and it's

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I don't I mean, because it was a while ago.

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What are we thirty five years?

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Yeah, right, so no.

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I don't remember. What I do remember is that the

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breakdown for it was for this Pad Benatar new wave type, right,

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it was. It was I think it was prior to

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when Love Is a Love Is a Battlefield, came out

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and choose with crazy hair and outfits. But my agent

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at the time was getting kind of desperate for stuff

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to send me in on because I had my I

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had gone way off of you know, my little cookie

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cutter blonde self and was really just doing my own

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thing looks wise, style wise, So I think he was

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just looking for anything to send me in that was

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like slightly like oh new wave, oh punk like, even

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if it was Hollywood's idea of what that was. So

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I think he just you know, it's like throwing the

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spaghetti against the wall and hoping something will stick. And

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they wanted to see me, right, and you know I

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was not. I was not of the body type that

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they were looking for. And I think I even made

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up some story like that I had gained weight for

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a role or something like that, which was not true.

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But yeah, I don't know, but they I don't. I

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don't remember what the scene. I mean, Violet, you know,

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she's she's there throughout the film, but there aren't a

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whole lot of speaking scene, so it was probably I

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would imagine that breakfast scene that was read. I'm guessing

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you know, they don't. I don't think that they didn't

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have me do a.

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Death scene so different breakfast breakfasting. I can definitely tell

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you what. One of my favorite scenes in the movie

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is the laundry scene where you and Robin are taking

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the Yeah. Yeah, and Joey's obviously wanting to you to

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you know, can you have you can have half my

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candy bar if you want. I just want to help you. Yeah. No,

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they didn't go over very well, did it.

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But yeah, it's I like the scene, and they use

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that scene in Fire with Fire, right, I ended up

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getting these little, these little bizarre residuals from them using

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that particular scene that's in the background in Fire with Fire.

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I've seen parts of Fire with Fire. I haven't have

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you guys seen the whole thing.

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I can tell you we actually a while back, we

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covered Fire with Fire on our Patreon for our subscribers

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and we kind of spoke about the whole Friday thirteenth

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the New Beginning connection, because it is right there, plain

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as day. They're not, you know, and I know, I

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know it's a parent well fire Fire. I know it's

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a paramount movie as well. But I was surprised at

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how much they were showing of the film because you know,

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the kids, you know, they get the girls from the

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convent and the boys from the prison camp. They get

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to go to the theater and they're watching Friday the thirteenth,

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The New Beginning and the laundry scene, well it starts off.

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They kind of show some scenes in reverse because they

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show Jason going after Pam in the barn with Reggie,

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and then when the kids come back into the theater,

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it's it's Violet scene doing laundry with Joey.

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Oh.

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I didn't know that, I see. I thought it was

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just like you know how you there'll be scenes with

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something on TV that's just kind of and I was like, God,

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that's really a random, weird, specific scene to pick. But

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I didn't realize they're seeing like the whole movie. I

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have to watch it now.

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Yeah, I would check it out because it is prominently

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your scene is prominently featured and fire with fire, So

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you just wondered about those residual checks. That's I think. Yeah, well,

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I mean now that's where they're coming from.

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Yeah, but they were like, I mean, they were really

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small and random, but at first they were actually pretty decent.

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I was like, oh, well that's one way to a

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living I guess.

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Yeah. Speaking of Violet, I'm wondering about the background, if

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if the director was, if there's any information given about her,

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or did you get to create Violet in a sense

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you know when you know, I was wondered like, how

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did how did she end up at pinehurstaff Way House?

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Well, I think I mean I created that Violet character.

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I think, you know Danny when when he cast me,

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he kind of just then got out of the way

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right and let me do what I need to do.

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And wardrobe was great. They took me out shopping basically

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told me, you know, pick out what you want, which

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is just like whoa yeah, and it's you know, in

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my hair was was done like that. But they I

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think that they paid for me to go to a

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hairdresser and really get it, like super super sharp, because

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I think it was a little liked I y as

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I recall and then we got it really nice looking. Yeah.

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I just I just saw her as like the troubled

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teen and probably you know, violent, some violent outbursts. But

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the choice that I made too when when Joey's killed

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was to go very opposite, to kind of go inward.

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So you know, I never really gave her the specific diagnosis,

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not like the method actor where I'm like, oh, and

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what happened. I was locked in a closet, you know,

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when I was three years old, and nothing like that.

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I just I just saw her as this trouble team.

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She probably got into drugs. She probably was caught like

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stealing stuff and just doing like bored teenager with too

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much time on their hands and no direction kind of stuff.

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Probably got into a few scraps. And you know, the

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choice I made with her going really quiet and rocking

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is kind of the opposite of that, where she's kind

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of overriding any any violent tendencies or freaking out. That's

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her way of I mean, that's you know with kids

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that rock, it's it's a way of self soothing mm hm.

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So I went with that because I didn't want to.

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I didn't want to try and like do a competition

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with Juliet for that scream. She kind of owned the scream.

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I'm like, yeah, I'm not even going to go into

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that field. I'll do something different.

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Well, you know, it's funny that you mentioned it that way.

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I can see that now with her character. You know

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everything you said, it really does come off on screen

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that way when you look at her and you know

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how she presents herself so well done with that, well.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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And it's it's like the sorry thing. It's like it's

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being pushed because it's like, yeah, like I said, I

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was sorry, and that like comeback from him is one

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of those little like push things, and like, dude, I

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don't want to have to kick your ass, but I've

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been known to do it, so like back down, I

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said I was sorry.

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Right, Nice to hear directors they give a little bit

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of a freedom to their actors to pull that stuff off.

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You know, I try to do those things when I

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when I'm directing things. You know, nothing on this kind

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of budget. Believe me, it's all small scale. But I

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try to give freedom to my actors because you know,

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it makes them involved. You know, it helps them on

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screen because they're the ones who helped create that, so

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they're going to put more into it. So I like

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that a lot.

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Yeah, and you got to trust the director too, you

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know that that has that has the wide vision. So

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it's you know, it's it's a mutual relationship. You each

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you each have to trust each other, exactly. But if

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because well, I mean, like an ocean Sticks there's the

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classic example, where was it really like turned into uh,

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what's the story of all the little kids running? And

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it got a little Lord of the Lies on Ocean Sticks?

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So the director also like hopefully will be able to

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reel the actors back in if they start getting a

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little too mm hmm out there, right, and vice versa

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that if the director starts getting a little too whip cracking,

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they can be like, remember you hired me for a reason.

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So right, but let me let me work here. Yeah, exactly. Well,

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tell me a little bit about the filming location. Was

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that actual location worth any of that on a studio?

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No? That was all that was an It was like

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towards Magic Mountain, that's all I remember. So north of

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La what I want to say, like an hour north

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of La it was. It was a little bit of

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a drive out there. But yeah, was it this little

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like it doubled as kind of a farm. Was Orange Orchard? Okay,

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So yeah, the little house that was there, and it

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was all shot there.

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Interesting. I always thought that when they used real locations. Yeah,

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you just get that vibe when it's still tangible, you know.

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Like how many days were you there on set?

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I don't no. I was there quite a bit when

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I didn't shoot, and I remember being on there for Halloween,

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Like Halloween was not a work day for me, but

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I went out there. Juliett and I were both out

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there and make up. We did our makeup together, like

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the makeup Lady. We did makeup and did pictures and

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I just wanted to be on that set and I'm like,

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I have to be on that set for on Halloween.

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So yeah, I don't remember how many days it was.

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I remember the the death scene was overtime though. I

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remember it was a late night and I was just like, oh,

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because I had to re reshoot the whole thing and

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I was really tired. I remember being really tired and

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it went really late. But I don't remember how long.

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The scenes are the worst, aren't they.

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They can go long. They can go long.

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Yeah, I've been involved with a few of those, and

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I know it's it can be rough on everybody.

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Yeah, and you're kind of like, I don't want to

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any work off for you, thank you, and trying to

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be authentic and being like tired and wired at the

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same time. It's hard.

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Well, you couldn't see that on screens. You did what, Yeah,

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looked at it.

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It played, didn't it.

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Yep.

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With regard to JULIETT Cummings, who you've mentioned, were there

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any fun or fun memories on the set that you

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can you can share with us about about the cast,

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about the crew.

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Well, I mean Juliet and I were friends on and

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off screen, like we hung out. We used to drive

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in together a lot. But yeah, I shared this story

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so many times. But yeah, I mean I remember going

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through those orange orchards and Tom Morga a couple of

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times would like to hide and jump out from the

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trees and scare us.

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But yeah, I have to ask, like, was he doing

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this in costume or just out you know, just as No, I.

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Think, I mean, I think as Tom, But I mean

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it's like he had his flight suit on, didn't have

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the mask and all that but just just to.

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Be cheeky, that's hysterical. Well done, Tom, Yes, Tom's awesome.

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I got to do a couple of cons with him,

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and yeah.

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Super cool guy, very nice. So I've got to ask

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you going into this because I know sometimes they hide

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things from actors on the script so they don't aren't

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aware of things are going on. So were you and

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the co stars aware of the twist involving the killer's identity?

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Oh? Yeah, I mean we we read the script, okay,

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so yeah, there was there was nothing. I mean, the

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only time we didn't know that it was a Friday

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the thirteenth was the original auditions. But yeah, you figure

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it out pretty quickly when you're like, oh guy hockey mask. Okay,

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got it, Yeah, got it. So we knew it all.

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We just yeah, as soon as we have that script.

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But we didn't get the script until like offers were made, right,

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we just they cast off of reading scenes. I mean,

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I don't know about everybody else. You know, maybe for

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Melanie's part or something, they they had her look at

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the whole script before they cast her. But for the

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supporting roles, yeah, it was cast off of just sides

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from the script on the whole script.

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Tiffany, you have one of the more iconic death scenes

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in a Friday the Thirteenth film. We we've got a

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bang song by Pseudo Echo, We've got one of Jason's

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scariest scene entrances probably uh. And there's some damn good

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there's some damn good dance dancing here. You know, we've

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got to talk about a little bit when you when

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you pull up the clip of Violet's dance where Jason

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comes in and after, there are hundreds of comments on

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that YouTube video, people calling out how incredible dance the

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dancing is.

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There.

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There's a big there's a big section of the fan

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base that has a strong opinion that that your character

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should have lived. It should have been one of the

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final girls. What what what's your reaction to all the

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love for Violet.

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Oh, I think it's great. I mean, that's that and

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that's those people are the people that come to my

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table at conventions and want to talk and you know,

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bring stuff to sign and things like that. But yeah,

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it's great, And I mean I understand the wanting Violet

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to be the final girl because she wasn't doing any

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of the typical slasher movie you know, death, like would

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be soon to be victims stuff. She wasn't having sex,

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she wasn't doing drugs, just dancing in a room, so

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I understand that. But you know, but we all know

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Melanie did a fine, fine job as the final girl anyway,

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so all good. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't have said no.

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If they had asked me, I'd be like, I'll join in.

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I'd hop hop in there with her and Reggie. But yeah,

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it's it's great. The fans are awesome. It's really like

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crazy phenomena. Do you guys go to conventions.

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We do all the time.

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They're amazing, right, like the horror fans. And I've heard

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it said too that like the the comic con fans

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are a different breed, more serious or something, but the

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the the horror fans are these super just warm, kind

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of like introverted and just you know, just really cool people.

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So I've gotten a few that are like, yeah, you

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need to back off, you're a little you're taking that

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shit a little too seriously. But really, with the amount

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of people that come into those shows and how many

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of them have been kind of creepers, it's pretty pretty amazing.

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Just about everybody's really cool there. So it's it's uh yeah,

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and it just seems to get more and more popular.

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It's crazy because.

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Yeah, I gotta tell you we're so we're based on

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the East Coast and two of the largest horror conventions

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happen on the East Coast, which we were kind of

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fixtures at ourselves talking about Horror Hound in cincinna Ohio

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and then Scarefest in Lexington, Kentucky. And I implore you, Tiffany,

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we got to get you out to one or both

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of them.

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Yeah. Well I think I did a horror Hound way

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back when, and my mom just did a horror Hound.

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She she was just in town talking to the course

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about about brook you know she. I think she was

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doing like the panel the whole nightmaent elm Street three panel. Yeah,

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I'm not mistaken.

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Yeah. So yeah, if you guys are in with the promoters,

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please put in a good word and yeah, we need

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I would love to do both of those shows. And

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then also when we get around talking about current projects,

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we definitely want to get the cat Nip cast and

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director out on the convention circuit just before we release

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it and maybe after.

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So yeah, we are definitely excited to talk about that

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one before we move away from this this iconic scene.

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You know, we know you. You studied dance with Roland Duprix.

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Is that correct?

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I love answering this question. Nope, didn't. What I did

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was I studied at the Rollan du Prey Dance Academy. Okay,

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so this goes back to early early things that actors

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do with their resume. You well, I mean it's I

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think everybody does it when they're just starting out on something.

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Embellish your resume. You don't want to lie, but definitely

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embellish and pump up like things that you've done. So

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that was a thing like I did study at Roland

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dupre Dance Studio. So tomato tomato, Yeah.

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It works, it works.

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Yeah.

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So the dancing question though, was this was this all you?

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That was all me? That was Actually it goes back

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to a club that I went to, back when there

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was the team clubs, the all ages, no alcohol dance clubs,

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which was a huge thing in late late seventies, early eighties.

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And this was the Odyssey in West Hollywood and Awesome,

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Awesome club and they had new Wave night and that

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was when I mean I had somebod who went to

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the other nights too, but a new wave night was

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the one, and there was a guy we had these

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like there was the dance floor, but then there's these podiums, right,

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and there was this guy up there doing this dance

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to remember send me an Angel real life, Oh yep, yep,

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and is then me an eighties. So he's doing this

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whole like, and I was like, oh, I'm like, oh

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my god, he's amazing and the dance is amazing. And anyway,

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I actually I got to know this guy. He actually

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ended up moving in with me. That's how seriously I

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take this dance stuff. But he was a real jerk.

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He was a horrible he had being a really really horrible,

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horrible person. But I did learn that dance and I

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actually and this was before I even got connected with him,

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but it's like I saw him and there were a

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couple of people at the club who did the dance

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to different songs, and I went home and practiced in

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a mirror until I got it right and then launched

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it at the club and had my own little crowd

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of people watching it. But I had never done it,

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like that wasn't a song that they played at the club.

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I did that. I did the dance to a lot

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of different songs, like Living in Video was my number one.

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You remember Transacts, Living in Videos Okay, the Chauffeur, Duran,

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Duran Thompson Twins, Like I had a few that I

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did that dance to love Cats. But yeah, with the

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Friday the thirteenth, they wanted that they needed the song

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for that scene, and they needed a song that wasn't

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super popular, wouldn't be hard to get the rights to,

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and Pseudo Echo was pretty much unheard of at the

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time I was playing. I played the grooves out of

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that vinyl, but it was mostly the alternative crowd that

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was playing that. So that song seemed to work perfectly

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for that dance, right, It's.

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Perfect, just like it was.

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It was movie magic where it just everything synced up.

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And I think Danny was thrilled with it all because

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I think I probably offered them a few songs, and

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at that time I was listening to just a lot

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more just the goth stuff. I was Sisters of Mercy,

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Bao House, you know, Susie and the Banshees those, But

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they could get rights to any of those. Pseudo Echo,

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they could get rights too.

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You can get. So that's right, and that.

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Worked so well. It worked better probably than I think.

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All Oh, a friend of mine started this page on

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Facebook and offshoot of Violet from Friday the thirteenth dancing

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to these various songs. Check out this sund Yeah what

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Facebook Facebook? So it's it's yeah, he's having so much

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fun with it and he takes requests. Yeh yeah, it's

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I mean, and it's just a baby page. He's like,

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I think he just started it for the for the

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for the past Friday the thirteenth, the same video of

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Violet from Friday the thirteenth dancing to other songs.

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We will absolutely find that and put that in the show.

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Notes that it's his pretty cool and there's so many

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that work really really well. I had some goofy ones

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I had, like like Salt and Peppa's Push It, which

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works perfectly. Like there's some that are really funny. Yeah,

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he Roxy, he just put Roxy music, Susie and the

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band Cheese, Violent Fems Specimen nice. So he's got a

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whole bunch of them. Nick Cave, Yeah, it's fun.

469
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Definitely gonna check that out, that's for sure, you know,

470
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:21.359
looking at that scene now I'm gonna look at it

471
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:24.920
completely different now from going forward knowing all the work

472
00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:26.519
that you put in it, and that was your dance.

473
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.640
I love that, and now I'm gonna look at it

474
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.279
completely different. In watching that movie so well done.

475
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:35.680
Well, thank you well I mean, and this I mean.

476
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:37.720
And prior to that, when they said that I would

477
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.079
be dancing, I was too shy. Again, we talked about

478
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:43.839
I actually I just worked with coaching another a fellow

479
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:48.200
actor about making big choices and being committed to big choices,

480
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:50.960
like don't do them half asked. And when I was

481
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:54.359
first you see in the beginning of that scene in

482
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:58.200
the film that I'm doing this like this kind of thing, right,

483
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:01.920
And that's what I thought that they when they said

484
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:05.640
when they changed it from doing exercises in my room

485
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:09.319
to dancing in my room, that's what I thought, like,

486
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:11.559
that's they'll want me to do that. They would never

487
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:13.680
they would never want me to do what I do

488
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:17.039
in clubs. They don't want to see it. That's so

489
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.279
It's so I started out doing that and it just

490
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:21.480
felt so awkward and I don't even know how I

491
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:24.880
broached the subject, but I'm like, I do this other

492
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.119
there's this other thing that some of us are doing

493
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.880
in clubs. Maybe you would like it, or like, I

494
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:32.880
don't know if maybe I started doing it just kind

495
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.240
of like and catching their eyes so that they would

496
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:37.720
see me doing it and be like, hey, let's use

497
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.400
that instead. I don't know how I brought it in,

498
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.160
but it wasn't what originally was going to happen. And

499
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:48.559
I think between them seeing the original dance and that

500
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.599
original song, they were like, oh my god, we are

501
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.759
saved because like I said, it was a late night yeah,

502
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.119
and they you know, when the producer saw me in

503
00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:59.799
that original makeup, he was like, it is not going

504
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:02.000
to get past the ratings board. We have to do

505
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:03.640
something different. Wow.

506
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.160
So I know that you shot a lot of that.

507
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.359
Was there an alternate death scene at all that was

508
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.319
filmed or was it just the dance and exercise and

509
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:11.079
stuff that changed?

510
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:14.119
Yeah, it was never shot that That original death scene

511
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.559
was never shot. No. I think they probably blocked it.

512
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.440
So probably I just went in, you know, and kind

513
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.519
of we got this the setups for the camera so

514
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:27.160
they could light it, and then they sent me to makeup.

515
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:33.759
And when and again when Mancuso saw the make coup,

516
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.400
he's like no, or maybe it was Danny too. I

517
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:39.480
don't know, maybe it was the two of them, but

518
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.440
it was it was decided that it would not get

519
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:47.119
past the ratings board, so it was a quick rewrite.

520
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.119
And that's why they had to use a pillow for

521
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.640
my stomach, because they didn't really have time to get

522
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.400
the FX guys on it to do something really authentic

523
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:56.160
and real looking.

524
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:58.160
I tell you, sometimes you got to come off at

525
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:00.640
the top of your head sometimes when you're filming, you

526
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.039
have to yes, right, yeah.

527
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:04.680
The only thing that bothers me because I saw that

528
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.480
scene the other day. It's like, because of the sea

529
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.200
saw thing. I was like, well, wait, why aren't I

530
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:14.079
like trying to grab at my neck and pull at

531
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:18.279
his hands as opposed to just letting myself getting picked up.

532
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:25.920
It's like, yeah, because that's that seems like that's something

533
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:27.720
you would do, is you'd be clawing.

534
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:34.519
Like, yeah, you would, you would be I'm yeah, on

535
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.160
the set, I would changed.

536
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:42.279
You're right, stop hold on, we had an issue here, yeah, yeah, yeah,

537
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:44.759
I'll tell you what. Guys. Let's let's take a quick

538
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.799
break and when we come back, we are going to

539
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:55.240
discuss uh, Tiffany's phomography and television roles. Welcome back, Dave

540
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:59.079
and I are speaking with the lovely and talented Tiffany

541
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:04.559
Helm about her time doing Friday the Thirteenth. A New Beginning.

542
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.880
But Tiffany, I would love to talk about some of

543
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.000
your other work, if that's okay, Yeah, fire way.

544
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:16.079
So, I know back in eighty four you did some

545
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.240
stuff in eighty three to two, correct, I think it

546
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.440
was like Bare Essence and Likely Stories.

547
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:26.680
Yeah, with Bare Essence, Yeah, that was well. I think

548
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.359
it was hard to hold before that. I think then

549
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:35.079
I got my SAG card with the Atariad, the one

550
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:37.960
that I did with Deborah Foreman, okay, and that was

551
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.839
she hadn't done Valley Girl yet, but we did the

552
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.599
Atari Ad and that's how I got my Screen Actors

553
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:50.920
Skilled Card, And then I think it was then hard

554
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:55.680
to hold because that was my first film, right, And

555
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.720
I don't remember if Likely Stories or Bare Essence which

556
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:01.880
one which they all kind of came around. They were

557
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:07.359
very close together. Yeah, yeah, Bare Essence. It's like that.

558
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.079
That was very exciting for me and going in because

559
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.960
it I mean it's a full like it's all a set, right,

560
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.000
it is a full set, and it's got like lots

561
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.039
of big hot lights and the three camera set up

562
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.799
for television and coming in through that door. I mean

563
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.359
it's like in that that little scene was exactly how

564
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:34.240
I felt. I mean, it's where she's super super nervous.

565
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:37.440
It's just very nervous, awkward model, right, that comes in

566
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.160
and tries to read and it's completely over the top.

567
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.039
It was that eighties. I don't know if you guys

568
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:44.720
have seen the clip. I actually have it on my

569
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.160
fan page. It's it's pretty amusing, and with Genie Francis,

570
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:54.079
who also worked with my mom on General Hospital, and yeah,

571
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:57.559
hard to hold chasing Rick Springfield around while he's like

572
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:02.599
in a towel, I'm leading myself and this other young

573
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.799
woman are leading a bunch of girls as we're chasing around,

574
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:09.920
screaming and likely stories I think was in there too,

575
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:13.440
and I had a little bit more experienced for that. Yeah,

576
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.400
and that one I also I have that on I

577
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.839
got I dug that out of some archive thing and

578
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.480
I have the recording of that. And you want to

579
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:30.359
talk cringey, some really super cringey and inappropriate for today's

580
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.400
standards as far as like some racist stuff, and it's

581
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:39.039
just like bbe Besh was in it though, the wonderful,

582
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:46.960
amazing bb Besh daughter, Samantha Mathis. And yeah, so I

583
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.640
mean I've just I keep getting blessed working with all

584
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:53.200
these incredible people. Yeah, some of those earlier things are

585
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:54.720
a little cringey.

586
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.160
Well, so I got to ask, you know, speaking of

587
00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:58.920
little cringey, I don't I want to get your take

588
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.759
on this, because Dave, you know, we love to be

589
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:05.759
we love fighting these hidden gyms. On two b same

590
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:07.799
year as nineteen, same year as Friday the thirteenth. In

591
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:11.119
the beginning, you're in the Zoo Gang.

592
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:11.319
Which is this.

593
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:14.960
Kind of a movie. So you know, a group of

594
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.279
kids rent a rundown building from a I think he

595
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:20.559
was like a wrestler, and you guys are trying to

596
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:21.519
turn into a rock club.

597
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:27.519
That's it That news bears open a nightclub kind of

598
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:28.599
while we were calling it.

599
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.880
Yeah, and you have what three come out in eighty five,

600
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:33.759
didn't you? Besides part of the thirteenth and that was

601
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:34.720
Ocean STIGs.

602
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.519
Was Ocean STIGs too. I mean they obviously shot very

603
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:41.759
much at different times. Yeah, but yeah, so Ocean Sticks

604
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.519
I guess probably would have come around at that same time. Too.

605
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.200
I'll tell you one thing. Yeah, I'll tell you one

606
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:51.960
that I remember. I was probably maybe twelve or thirteen

607
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.680
first time I seen this. I'm watching on USA up

608
00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:00.920
all night a movie called Reform school Girls where you're

609
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.000
playing you're playing a role. It's it's it's very much

610
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:05.720
like Violet, only only meaner.

611
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:13.199
Yeah, Fish is she's nasty. Violet Violet wasn't nasty. No,

612
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:20.599
it's just misunderstood. But Fish is just unpleasant, mean, she's mean.

613
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:21.719
Yeah.

614
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.039
Do do do people like when you go to cons

615
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:25.440
I know, I know a lot of people are probably

616
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:28.719
thinking Violet from frid thirteenth five, But do you do

617
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.440
you get like the cult classic type of type of

618
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.039
people that are like Reform school Girls, Si my sign

619
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:34.480
my poster.

620
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.800
A few we get a few Reform school Girls fans,

621
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:39.519
And I do, like I have a few weight by

622
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:44.760
Tens stills from that because yeah, I'm surprised it isn't

623
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:49.480
more actually, because it does have that cult status. And

624
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.800
I have a great picture of me, Wendy and Darcy

625
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:59.719
that like, yeah, why would why wouldn't you want that? Right? So, yeah,

626
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:01.440
it was that was an interesting film.

627
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:03.800
To work on, and I had had Darcy had she

628
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:07.760
already filmed her role on Friday thirteenth, Jason lives because

629
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.039
you got we got we got two adjacent's victims in

630
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:10.480
this movie.

631
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:12.760
We do? Yeah, right, Yeah, I don't know if she

632
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:14.800
had she done a Friday the thirteenth, you'd have to

633
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:18.280
kind of look at IMDb, and again, release dates do

634
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:22.280
not actually sync up with filming dates, but you can

635
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:26.119
probably like figure it out. I don't, I want to.

636
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.360
I don't know. Darcy and I weren't close on the set,

637
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:33.000
so I don't know we didn't really have those conversations,

638
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:35.400
or if we did, I don't honestly don't remember.

639
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:38.920
Well, I know you followed this up in what eighty

640
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:41.760
eight and eighty nine you did some TV series? One

641
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:45.119
of those was twenty one Jump Street. Yeah, a very

642
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.920
very popular series, I might add. And then Jeff, I

643
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.920
know she did Freddy's Nightmares in eighty nine.

644
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:56.760
Yeah, so you know Freddy's Nightmares. If if you're wanting

645
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.679
to go back and check the series out, both seasons

646
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:03.119
are Avail and plex right now, you know with ads,

647
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:08.000
But Tiffany, you're in season two one called Heartbreak Hotel,

648
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:11.760
where you're you're probably playing the nicest sweetest girl we've

649
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:12.440
seen you play?

650
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:14.920
Do you do you can?

651
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:16.639
You do you remember shooting that one?

652
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:23.119
Yeah? Absolutely absolutely. It was a lot of fun. Yeah,

653
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:26.000
I mean the audition was fun. It was all fun. Well,

654
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.360
I mean, and I was I was a nice girl

655
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.559
in the soap that I did too. I played some

656
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:36.320
nice girls and I yeah, and I was a nice

657
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:42.199
girl in Medicine Ball and a nice girl in the

658
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:43.719
little movie of the Week that I did.

659
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:46.960
So that been Sworn a.

660
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:48.519
Vengeance, I mean, and it was a short that was

661
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:52.079
a little scene but just like yeah, teenage runaway. More

662
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.559
more hapless, right, I get there was a lot more

663
00:36:54.639 --> 00:37:01.360
just hapless, but yeah, and Jump Street. Yeah, I was

664
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:06.400
just just I was like this depressed suicidal team, right,

665
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.639
and you know, and you also got to mention that

666
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.039
that was one of the ones Brad Pitt guests start on.

667
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.719
So Johnny were on that. So that was before he

668
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:22.400
was that was before his big debut in Thelman Louise Rights.

669
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:24.480
It's a good day for young Tiffany on the set,

670
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:26.280
right always.

671
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:30.119
Yeah, And I did the you know, the sitcom with

672
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:33.400
John Stamos you again, so and in that I wasn't

673
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:36.679
again I'm not I'm not mean or bad. I was

674
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.119
just funky, punky girl.

675
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.920
So no, I just I loved h I love the

676
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:44.880
role you did on phrase Nightmares because you you've got

677
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:48.360
your You've got like a bit of a country accent

678
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:50.880
in your little site. Very nice, yeah, little southern.

679
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:57.960
Two pots of coffee, he's got two pots of coffee. Yeah,

680
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:01.360
and they're like yeah and that you know, did you

681
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:10.400
know you're pregnant? Oh yes, sir, But yeah, it was fun.

682
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:12.039
It was a lot of fun to do that.

683
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.559
And having that baby, I think. I but I blew

684
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:18.960
the sound guy's ear drums out when they asked me

685
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:19.480
to scream.

686
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.480
Oh great scream and that scene yeah, well, I mean

687
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:23.000
and they had.

688
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.119
To tone it down and do like a little reverb

689
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.320
on it and stuff. But they said, we want you

690
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.199
to scream. I'm like, scream, scream, Like, yeah, we want

691
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:33.079
you to scream. I'm like okay, And I saw the

692
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:33.639
sound guy just.

693
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.320
Well, you know, in my experience, you have to have

694
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.000
someone who's performing in front of the camera actually scream

695
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.280
because you get those facial expressions you know that are

696
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:50.000
very natural and you know, stream scream. Sure you need that,

697
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.159
but yeah, you may blow out the sound guy yeah.

698
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.639
Yeah, warn sound so they can make the adjustment on

699
00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:59.760
their end, right or slip off an earphone or something.

700
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:01.239
Yep. Absolutely so.

701
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:02.719
Yeah, that was a lot of fun to do and

702
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:04.880
a great series. I loved that and I didn't do

703
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:06.800
the series, but that was out at the same time

704
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.400
the Friday of the Thirteenth TV series was on, and

705
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.639
that was a great show too. It was great shows.

706
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.559
Yeah, but I mean good TV on then credit where

707
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:18.400
credits do? Though you're you're one of the very few

708
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:22.280
people that have been involved in both The Friday Thirteenth

709
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:25.159
World and the Nightmare onm Street World. Not a lot

710
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:26.760
of actor or actress could say that.

711
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:28.920
So it's a story and I got to I got

712
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:30.119
to have Freddy's baby.

713
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.559
So exactly not a lot of that either, I'll tell

714
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.679
you what. Watching that recently, when they show that baby

715
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:41.280
come out, I thought to myself, I can't believe this

716
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:44.599
was on television like regular television. This is a cable,

717
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:48.440
this is this is standard television in nineteen eighty nine.

718
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.360
And and they got away with this because.

719
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:53.000
Well, especially with me, with the story that I just

720
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:56.760
told of that scene being changed in the film of

721
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:58.719
them saying that's not going to get past the ratings

722
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:00.880
board and then they do. So like that, you're like,

723
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:02.599
which is it?

724
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:03.400
Yeah?

725
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:07.519
Right, and once for theater, once for TV. So it's like, Okay,

726
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.039
that doesn't balance out, right, does it? Yeah?

727
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:12.519
And well, I mean I think specifically the rating that

728
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:16.360
we were going for with on the film had those

729
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.679
specific restrictions on it. I think like it wasn't that

730
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:24.559
they weren't making movies that didn't show things. It was

731
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.320
just that's whatever we needed to get the ratings. And

732
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:30.199
I think that has to do with distribution too. I'm

733
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.679
hearing about that with just working on the Catnip at

734
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:36.800
the ratings that if you get those PG ratings, it's

735
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.800
a lot better for like overseas distribution. And again, as

736
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.760
a director, you probably know about that, but you have

737
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.719
much more fun with our stuff, right you do, because

738
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:50.159
most of the big horror films now are it most

739
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:55.960
like everything's are oh kids can't go see it? Yeah,

740
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:59.679
I'm sure. Like if I remember asking our teenage son, oh,

741
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:01.960
he's like, yeah, I've seen it, Yeah, I seen it

742
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:02.400
seeing it.

743
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:03.880
I'm like, how are you seeing.

744
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:04.440
All these films?

745
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.880
He's like whatever, yeah, the dark mom.

746
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.320
So this this would take us up to about the

747
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.480
mid to late nineties. And this is is this where

748
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.719
you kind of transition to UH to a new passion

749
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:20.000
right with photography.

750
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:25.679
Yeah, yeah, when did I start my business? Well, I

751
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:33.360
didn't start my business until after our UH eldess was born,

752
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:36.360
but I was doing like fine art. It was the

753
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:41.800
move to Seattle that really make that happen because there

754
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.320
was nothing going on. I mean, I did medicine ball

755
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:49.559
and I did the rama game. She was she was

756
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:54.119
not nice, Francesca Sabatini, she wasn't a nice girl. She's

757
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:59.159
kind of manipulative. But those were the two that I

758
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.320
did there, and they're just there was no work for actors,

759
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.960
and I had to do something for my keep that

760
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:10.760
creative flow. And I had always wanted really to explore photography.

761
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:14.039
So I picked up a camera and started shooting and

762
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.760
really gravitated to doing like dark fine art and had

763
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.159
a few shows and sold quite a few things, and

764
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:28.360
Seattle got it just involved in that whole like sub

765
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:33.760
group in Seattle, which is really cool, like great town

766
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:38.039
to be in in that time. Yeah, and it's I

767
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.320
pretty much hung up the like I remember when my

768
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:43.920
agent was like she wasn't going to do it. Anymore,

769
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:46.119
and I was just like, man, there's just nothing happening here.

770
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:48.480
I mean, it was really difficult to shoot. Like I

771
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.800
remember when Sylvester Stallone was wanting to shoot in Seattle

772
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.480
for something. He was wanting to shoot on the viaduct,

773
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:58.239
which is now no longer in Seattle. If you ever

774
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:03.599
spent time there, and the city of Seattle wouldn't let

775
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:05.760
them use biduct, they wouldn't let him shut it down,

776
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:12.119
being very short sighted, Like the film commission in Seattle

777
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:16.119
was terrible that way, because when a film comes into town,

778
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.920
like they have most of their crew, they have everybody,

779
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.239
and they get per diem and then for deems got

780
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.440
to be spent or they get or you know, the

781
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.800
cast and grew get taxed on it. So wherever you're shooting,

782
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.280
whatever town you're shooting on, all that money is going

783
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.920
to go into that town. So it's it's really lucrative

784
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:36.679
to have a film. I mean, it could be a

785
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.199
pain in the butt because things will get shut down,

786
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.199
traffic will be changed. But for the most part, people

787
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.519
think it's really cool. You know, they're like, yeah, our town,

788
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.239
I mean place we live in now, we had a

789
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:51.760
major production. We had a few major productions here, and

790
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:55.840
people think it's really this cool talking point. So it's

791
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.159
very lucrative to have a film crew in your town.

792
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.079
But the problem was is that Seattle Film Commission made

793
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:07.000
it so difficult for companies to come in that most

794
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:11.039
film production companies just go to Canada where it can

795
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:14.079
look exactly like Seattle, like they do some of their

796
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:18.039
They'll they'll send like their second unit to shoot some

797
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:22.280
exteriors in Seattle to get the Seattle vibe, but then

798
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.400
they'll shoot the rest of it in Canada and they

799
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:28.920
get the exchange rate and a lot more amenable to

800
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:33.199
cruise coming in. So Seattle lost on that one, which

801
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.159
is a shame. I've seen a few projects. I think

802
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:37.320
maybe they've gotten a little better over the years, but

803
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.320
they're still it's still tough because Seattle is a great

804
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:44.480
place to shoot, but they just have not made it

805
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:46.159
very enticing for film companies.

806
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:47.239
That's a shame.

807
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:50.800
Yeah, So I just I just pretty much gave it

808
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.920
up at that point. Yeah, I took over photography full time.

809
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.599
Well, you know, it's kind of a similar boat that

810
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:58.639
I'm in. I pick up a camera and just started

811
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:00.800
shooting one day because and I just fell in love

812
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.920
with photography, So tell us a little bit about your

813
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:05.000
Rascal photo and design.

814
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:11.960
Well, initially it started out as again my I do

815
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.400
a lot of My favorite is conceptual pieces, and I

816
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.000
mean I can spend like days on photoshop doing conceptual pieces.

817
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.400
Definitely not my bread and butter. When we were in

818
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:29.920
Seattle the port I just started doing mainly portraiture with

819
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.039
the smattering of weddings, and it was really nice. We

820
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:34.159
had kind of a nice setup where my husband was

821
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.039
officiating and I was shooting, and then he would join

822
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:43.000
me as a second shooter for the rest of the reception.

823
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:46.199
So that worked out very well. And I loved doing portraiture.

824
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:52.880
I loved shooting like kids, artists, musicians, usually subjects that

825
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.039
are really or The women who were my favorite were

826
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:59.320
the women who were like, I don't look good in pictures,

827
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.480
not photogenic. I don't And those are my favorite to

828
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.599
shoot because it's you know, I mean, yes, I guess

829
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.679
there are certain people who doesn't naturally look great on camera,

830
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:13.559
but it's so much more interesting to work with somebody

831
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.480
who's not necessarily comfortable in front of a camera and

832
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:18.599
then turn around and give them their shots and they're

833
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:21.400
like oh my god, like these are really good and

834
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:27.079
you're like, well that's you, you know. So that's kind

835
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:29.440
of what I did, was the portraits. And when we

836
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:33.880
moved to Canada, it's it's super competitive where we're living,

837
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:40.400
like crazy competitive, nothing like the state because it's a small,

838
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.840
like very attractive tourist town, so it attracts a lot

839
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.039
of a lot of money, a lot of professionals, like

840
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:53.960
high high end professionals. So it's I've never really been

841
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.280
able to get purchase here with the portraiture. I mean

842
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.039
I still do it, and I still do the odd

843
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:03.960
jobs and things, but again to feel that creative thing,

844
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:09.840
I was like, well, all the you know, projects that

845
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:12.039
are shooting in Canada, and maybe I'll see about getting

846
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:14.800
an agent here too. And I'm a dual citizen, so

847
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:17.920
there you go. It sounds like a sounds like a

848
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.920
good thing because anytime an American film production company comes

849
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.239
to Canada, one of the things is they have to

850
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:27.920
hire a certain amount of Canadian actors and crew part

851
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.880
of the deal. So I'm like, I can take advantage

852
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:33.599
of that. So I got an agent, yeah, and like

853
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:39.280
booked three films. Boom boom boom, right off the bat so, Yeah,

854
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:44.239
and got quiet around COVID and now back about to

855
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:48.000
work on an American film production and yeah like that.

856
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:50.239
So I'm still I'm still doing my picture. I just

857
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.559
wherever I can get my creative jones in, you know.

858
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:59.320
Yeah, I was perusing your website and one of the

859
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:01.239
things that you said there, you said, my approach to

860
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.400
photography has always been about connecting to life in a

861
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.840
triculation of dreams and expression of spirit. Although the camera

862
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.480
only sees in two dimensions, it is a powerful catalyst

863
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:12.719
through which souls unite and the true beauty of all

864
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:17.880
living things is revealed. That's absolutely beautiful. It really is.

865
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.440
When I when I read that, I was just like, wow,

866
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.360
she is absolutely correct with that. You know, I fell

867
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.199
in love with photography. And you know, if you're not

868
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:30.880
behind the camera and you've never captured that perfect image

869
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:33.039
and you know what I'm talking about, when you capture

870
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:34.920
it and you just fall in love with it, if

871
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.000
you've never been behind the camera, you don't understand that,

872
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.440
you know. And for me, when I go to events

873
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:42.239
and stuff like that and you get that perfect light,

874
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:44.960
you get that perfect uh you know, position of somebody

875
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.599
and you capture that and you're showing people and oh,

876
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:50.639
that looks beautiful, But you, as a photographer, you're like

877
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.039
you're on You're on cloud nine, right, Yeah, absolutely, No

878
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.440
one else understands that but the photographer. But no, that's

879
00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:59.719
absolutely beautiful what you said there. It really really is

880
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.480
and shows you how much you will love and appreciate

881
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:03.199
that photography.

882
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.280
Yeah, And for years I was like, oh, this is

883
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:08.760
this is even more satisfying than being on the other

884
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.320
end of the camera. And now it's kind of switching again,

885
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.159
and it's like I've found that it doesn't have one

886
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:17.760
doesn't have to be exclusive, you know, I can I

887
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.519
can find joy on both sides. Sometimes when you get

888
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:24.800
too much into the business end of photography, though, it

889
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:27.719
does start getting like oh god, particularly like that's why

890
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.719
I'm I just dabble in weddings. I don't go at

891
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.599
it too aggressively because that can be that's that can

892
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:40.599
be pretty intense. Those are long days and lots of personalities,

893
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:44.400
you know, where like so much of me just wants

894
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.480
to go and like follow the kids around and you

895
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.360
shoot the kids all day. Yeah, can I just take

896
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:51.119
pictures of them?

897
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.000
Absolutely? I completely understand that.

898
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.920
For Yeah, because the kids, they just they reveal themselves

899
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:02.119
or photographing animals or yeah, and unfortunately, I mean it's

900
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:06.039
you know, like I said, my conceptual stuff is you know,

901
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:10.079
doesn't earn me money, but it really really fills me.

902
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.960
And it's it's so much fun. Like I have some

903
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.920
pieces where I'm just like damn, like yeah, I mean,

904
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.400
and it's it's again, it's it's putting in all these

905
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:23.639
different pieces and I hate AI for taking that from us.

906
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:27.719
I mean, it's not there yet for the stuff that

907
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:30.280
I'm doing. But like I have one of my favorite

908
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.159
Halloween pictures because I usually do a Halloween post, but

909
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:39.079
I have one of it's a monster in a living

910
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:43.880
room watching aliens and his little pet frog is by

911
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:46.480
his side, and it's this old seventies living room. It's

912
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:49.599
it's on the it's on the website if you're on there.

913
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:53.719
And I absolutely loved building this thing. And it was

914
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:57.599
all by scratch, like it's I was like, for the monster,

915
00:50:57.760 --> 00:50:59.679
I'm I'm finding how did I find the monster?

916
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:00.320
It was like.

917
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:04.559
Pictures of tubing. I think I was looking for different

918
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.320
tubing and I found the right tubing and I'm like, okay,

919
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:11.440
those can be like his eyestalks and I started. So

920
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:15.800
it's it was really like so organically put together. And

921
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:18.519
now I'm like, oh and AI, I can just be

922
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:23.559
like prompts Monster in the seventies retro living room watching

923
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:28.199
aliens on old style TV, and you know, I'm just.

924
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:32.519
Like yah, yeah, that's no fun. Yuh no, thank you No.

925
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:35.199
So I mean I think that it's it's also it's

926
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:38.079
going one way, it'll come back because it's and I've

927
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:42.559
heard it. I've heard AI called being called boomer art

928
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.880
basically like the younger generation or like no thank you.

929
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:51.400
They're they're interested in like the practical effects. They're interested

930
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:55.320
in like the old Well, my son is in film

931
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.599
school now and his like the coveted Unicorn film camera,

932
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:03.719
like they brought it out and it's this big airflex right,

933
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:08.039
it's just like when he gets to use it, he's

934
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.280
so excited, like and all of everything he does is

935
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.679
like he uses film and he uses he'll use like

936
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:22.159
old eighties like those cam quarters and it's yeah, the

937
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:24.199
young people don't want the AI.

938
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:25.159
That's good.

939
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:28.079
I gotta say. That's when you when you hear about

940
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.199
all these movies being shot with like iPhones, now, it

941
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.719
is so refreshing to hear that kids are using something

942
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:35.800
like an airflex and they're the cameras.

943
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:38.840
Yeah, they they really, I mean, and it's it'll be divided.

944
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:41.599
It's like every everything will be available to us, you know.

945
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:43.719
And I just when I see that Lion Skates making

946
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:47.599
some deal with an AI company to start shooting some

947
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:51.199
AI films. So, I mean, there'll be something for everybody.

948
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:54.079
But it's going to go one side and then it's

949
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:57.920
going to come back because people artists are always going

950
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.320
to be creating art always, and if you're just feeding

951
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.400
words into a computer, I'm sorry. You are not an artist.

952
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.880
So you can be you can be a business person,

953
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:11.360
you can be a filmmaker, but you're not an artist

954
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:15.639
if you're doing that my opinion, say it loud and proud.

955
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:17.000
No, I'm with you on that one.

956
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:17.599
Absolutely.

957
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:20.519
So I've got to ask you what's your favorite lens

958
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:21.000
you use?

959
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:27.760
I have my I have two point eight one is

960
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:29.880
the twenty eight to seventy and you know there's a

961
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:35.360
seventy to two hundred shooting on Nikon. Yeah, those are

962
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.400
my those are really it. I mean, I have my

963
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:43.000
my fifty that the formance lens. It's like it's a

964
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:47.880
fifty like eight. It's it's it's a cheap lens and

965
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:51.360
it's great, like for boudoir. It's like it's the best

966
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.199
little lens and it's it's like one of the best

967
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:57.159
kept secrets. Ione Yeah, yeah, I love this little thing.

968
00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.079
I think it's like actually a two point eight or something.

969
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:05.159
But yeah, that's that's uh, those are that's what's in

970
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:05.719
my bag.

971
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:09.000
What's in your bag? I have an eighty milimeter which

972
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:11.400
is just like you're fifty. Uh, it was really cheap

973
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:13.920
and it's one of my best lenses. It's crazy.

974
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:15.559
It's a beautiful portrait lens.

975
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:18.159
It is eighty that's what I use it for. It's ports. Yeah,

976
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:20.719
beautiful lens for that. But I do have a seventy

977
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:23.280
two hundred milimeters in my bag because when I go

978
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:25.880
to events, you know, you need that that zoom in

979
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:28.280
and out. You need that flexibility when you go into

980
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.800
those events for sure, you know, because eighty millimere is

981
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:33.119
the prime lens, so you have to move around, yeah

982
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.199
you know, yeah, but still gives great portrait work. So

983
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:38.159
those are usually there. And I do have a twenty

984
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:41.760
seven to seventy millimeter lens in my bag too, So

985
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:44.719
I've got the range, you know that I do. I

986
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.280
do have a six hundred, but I barely use it. Wow,

987
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:51.840
you know nature photography, I'll get the bears exactly the

988
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:55.320
bears and stuff like that. But yeah, no, so pretty

989
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:57.000
much is similar. But what's in our bags?

990
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:59.119
That's cool? Right on, right on?

991
00:54:59.360 --> 00:54:59.719
Good deal.

992
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:04.000
Yeah, if we could jump back into your film work

993
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:05.719
for a for a quick minute.

994
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:10.400
So I know you've done some recent projects. You did

995
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:13.239
like Read Letter Day, I believe back in twenty nineteen

996
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:16.679
where you played Nicole Morris. Yep, tell me a little

997
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:17.320
bit about that movie.

998
00:55:18.599 --> 00:55:20.360
Great premise. I don't know if you've seen it. It's

999
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:26.719
absolutely an outstanding premise. It's very believable. I mean, obviously

1000
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:30.239
what happens in the film is not believable, as it's

1001
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:35.000
a horror film, but that like the premise, you're like, yeah,

1002
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.519
I could see that happening, you know, with the people

1003
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:42.199
turning on each other by receiving these letters that their

1004
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.559
neighbor wants to kill them. That's basically it. It's like

1005
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:50.559
what would you do? Right? But yeah, it was so

1006
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:56.639
much fun to work on. And yeah, director also a

1007
00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.599
Friday fan. They give a tribute to Violet in the

1008
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:03.679
beginning of it, where yeah, where the sun is like

1009
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:10.400
kind of peekabooing at the neighbor's daughter, right, and she's

1010
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:13.559
doing this dance topless and it's a dance like the

1011
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:14.519
one Violet does.

1012
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:15.360
Nice.

1013
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:18.119
So yeah, the director was wearing a Jason Pin on

1014
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:20.239
the set, so he's like.

1015
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:24.280
Perfect.

1016
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:28.880
So yeah, it was. It was really fun, absolutely wonderful crew.

1017
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:33.199
I was I was just a very short shoot get

1018
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:38.719
like some of those indie films are quick. Yeah, but so,

1019
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:40.599
I mean I was bummed I was only there one

1020
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:42.599
day because I would have I would have loved to

1021
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:44.880
just stay on that set. It was great.

1022
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:46.800
They have to move quick, don't they. They got them

1023
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:48.239
small budgets, they have to move back.

1024
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:51.159
Yep. Absolutely, I'm sure you know all about it.

1025
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:52.519
I do absolutely.

1026
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.280
Every second is money, money, money, yep.

1027
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:58.719
And now that same year, you're in one of the

1028
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.559
more intense Stephen King films to come out, and I'm

1029
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:04.920
talking about In the Tall Grass. I think it was

1030
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:07.760
a Netflix original. Man, what a spooky film.

1031
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:11.159
Yes, I loved it, loved that movie.

1032
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:13.880
That was actually it was really that was fun. So

1033
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:19.159
that was the same casting director who had cast me

1034
00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:22.440
and Come True. I had given me that one or

1035
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:25.960
that audition. A lot of fun with that audition and

1036
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:28.480
you never think about that though when you see that,

1037
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.920
when you see these little like like no no lines

1038
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:36.960
or anything, and someone just doing like a look, yeah

1039
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:38.639
that was that was an audition. I actually had to

1040
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:41.719
send them three takes of of doing this back and

1041
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:45.079
forth to the you know, smoking thing and these responses.

1042
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:50.159
Yeah you never it's funny. And the set was amazing. Again.

1043
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:53.519
I went from you know, when I worked on Come True,

1044
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:56.920
it was an absolute skeleton crew. It was like like

1045
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:58.519
literally three people.

1046
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:02.400
Oh wow, as who was there, you know, was like the.

1047
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:07.679
Makeup person, the director, and the producer. That was That was.

1048
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.920
That was it. And I mean and he did some

1049
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.880
of his shots like from a from a grocery cart

1050
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.440
and he's genius. Like I don't know if you've seen that,

1051
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:22.639
but like the post editing his stuff is amazing. So

1052
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:26.920
go big or go small, It's like, but the Netflix

1053
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:32.159
sets are like low, so very busy. And the gas

1054
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:35.920
station that I come out of was the set dressing

1055
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.119
was amazing. I wanted to just spend like the day

1056
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:42.239
in it, look at it like that every little detail

1057
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:44.880
and you never really see the inside of that garage,

1058
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:49.119
but it's totally it looks like what the what you'd

1059
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.199
expect it to look like on the inside. Like it

1060
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:56.000
was not like a set where there's nothing behind, you know,

1061
00:58:56.159 --> 00:59:00.159
nothing that was like facade sets, nothing like that. It

1062
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:03.119
was this garage and they had fully redone it to

1063
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.880
look like this old garage in the middle of nowhere.

1064
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:11.480
Like the detail is phenomenal on those because they, i mean,

1065
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:13.800
they have the budget to do whatever, and I'm sure

1066
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:16.360
the set dressers just have so much fun, like finding

1067
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:18.719
things like oh wait, god, look what I got today.

1068
00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:20.880
We can put this in this seat, It'll be great.

1069
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:26.079
So it was when it was connected to Come True,

1070
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:31.480
it was like the same producers. I mean, Vincenzo Natally

1071
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:35.039
was like he I think he had a producer credit

1072
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:40.800
on Come True. And yeah, they were all they were interconnected,

1073
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:45.840
like a lot of the same uh production crew was

1074
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:50.760
on Come True. So again it was all tied to

1075
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:53.280
and it was tied to Friday the thirteenth. They're all

1076
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:54.440
Friday fans.

1077
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:58.400
Like the more of course, yeah, were everywhere everywhere, so

1078
00:59:58.559 --> 00:59:58.920
I mean.

1079
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:01.840
And it was fun. It was I felt a little

1080
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.360
bit ripped off on that because that was everybody's last

1081
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:07.920
day shooting in Alberta, so everybody was like ready to

1082
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:13.920
go home. Yeah, So there really wasn't that. Like I

1083
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:16.119
don't know, it's like working on films is always fun

1084
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:18.360
because it gets to be like a real family vibe,

1085
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.039
and I think people just wanted to go home. They

1086
01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:27.480
were tired. And Laisla, you know, the star, the woman

1087
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:29.519
in it, she showing me. I mean that, it's like

1088
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:32.519
she there were like twelve of those little blue dresses

1089
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:35.440
that she had to wear, and she was talking about

1090
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:37.639
some of the conditions. She's like, oh, yeah, like the

1091
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:41.639
people that the grass people or whatever that come out.

1092
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:45.800
So it sounded like it was a pretty intense and physical,

1093
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:52.119
like physically taxing shoot. And I know Vincenzo was feeling

1094
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:54.400
a little under the weather the day I was out there,

1095
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.199
So it was and then that I had the scary,

1096
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:02.400
this scary honor of trying to get out of there,

1097
01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:05.519
because it's like, if you've ever been to Alberta, they're

1098
01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:10.280
like these like zones where there's just nothing. It's just

1099
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:13.199
miles and miles of the same way you see stuff

1100
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:16.119
like that in the Midwest, where it's just like field

1101
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:19.920
after field after field, and there's and nothing like no

1102
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:24.360
like street markers like there you know, rural route number

1103
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:28.960
eight hundred and seventy three or whatever. You can't so

1104
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:32.000
these little patches in Alberta, and it's I have a

1105
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:36.000
really bad sense of direction anyway. And I remember and

1106
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.559
it went late, like even though I was there early,

1107
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:42.960
was a classic hurry up and wait. So my scene

1108
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:44.679
ended up not getting shot till the end of the day.

1109
01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:47.400
And I remember a woman there like saying, you better

1110
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:50.400
get on the road now because it's like the the

1111
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:57.320
navigation equipment doesn't even work out here. And I'm like, oh, so,

1112
01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:02.239
I'm like, I was really scared because I'm like, you know,

1113
01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:04.599
I try to think of that, okay, so if I

1114
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:09.679
went right, right left, I'm going to go right left,

1115
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:14.079
like trying to think backwards on the directions. Yeah, And

1116
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:18.079
somehow I got out of there, but I was really

1117
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:22.519
and coming in was the most wicked fog I'd ever seen.

1118
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:24.679
I actually had to pull over. I couldn't I like

1119
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:27.599
could not see like the idea of following the car

1120
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:30.239
in front of you, I couldn't even see the car

1121
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:32.280
in front of me. The fog was so bad. It

1122
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:35.679
was one of the most harrowing rides into work and

1123
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:38.400
back and I was just like, oh my god, what

1124
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:42.039
have I just done? But I was super excited to

1125
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:46.239
be on anything associated with Stephen King absolutely and that

1126
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:48.960
the cool thing was too And this is one of

1127
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:53.239
the things I love about Canada. I was actually at

1128
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.880
the climbing gym and I got a call directly from

1129
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:59.280
the casting director. She's like, Tiffany, Oh my gosh, I'm

1130
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:01.559
so I'm so like, I catch you a bad a time.

1131
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:04.039
She's like, I know this is really not this is

1132
01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:07.000
not professional or anything, but like that film production company,

1133
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.719
they it was delayed and this and that, but they

1134
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:11.639
really loved you when they want you for that part.

1135
01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:14.519
And I was like, oh sweet, you know.

1136
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:17.280
I mean, usually it's a whole like I don't know,

1137
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:20.119
it's a hierarchy that it comes through, like you're the

1138
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:24.000
agency and we're talking negotiations. But this was cool. The

1139
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.880
casting director was just like, yeah, they love you, we

1140
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:31.199
want you. I was like, cool, awesome, that's the tall

1141
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:31.880
Grass story.

1142
01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:36.199
And you mentioned come True, which you did in twenty twenty. Correct, yep,

1143
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:39.119
that was before it might have been released then, but

1144
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:41.960
it was okay. But you filmed it before. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1145
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.440
before in the tall Grass? Gotcha? How did that go?

1146
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:46.199
What was the experience on that one?

1147
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:48.639
They were actually pretty close. In fact, I made a

1148
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:52.360
joke about it when I met the producer in the

1149
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:55.800
tall Grass and I was like, we were talking about it,

1150
01:03:55.880 --> 01:03:58.519
and I'm like, so it was actually quite a bit

1151
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:03.039
before that, I before in the tall Grass. But I

1152
01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:05.760
was like, so, how is like post editing going and

1153
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.000
how's and he kind of laughed and he's like, Bell,

1154
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:11.800
he said, this will probably come out before come true

1155
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:16.119
to us. I'm like, oh, okay, because again it's it's

1156
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:20.559
it's the one direct director, Anthony Scott Burns, who's really

1157
01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:22.920
a one man wrecking crew. I mean, he did the music,

1158
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.239
he did the editing, he wrote the story, he did

1159
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.719
the directing, he did He wasn't the main producer, that's

1160
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:30.880
about the only thing. And he didn't do makeup, but

1161
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:35.199
he he does like everything. So the post editing was

1162
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.559
super painstaking.

1163
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:41.159
I'm sure. And that sounds like my avenue doing everything

1164
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:43.400
with the editing and all that kind of stuff.

1165
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:45.400
So can that's what my son wants to do.

1166
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:49.360
It's fun to do everything. It's just like photography. You know,

1167
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:51.719
if you have a love for it, you're going to

1168
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.280
just get take it and it takes over your life,

1169
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:56.440
you know, And when you get done with it, it's

1170
01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:58.880
just like getting that perfect picture. You get to see

1171
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.239
it and you're like, wow that, I can't believe I

1172
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.039
did that, you know, So I get that, I do.

1173
01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:05.320
Dave.

1174
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:08.320
Let's take one last break and when we come back,

1175
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:16.639
we are going to be discussing Tiffany's upcoming work. Stay tuned. So, Tiffany,

1176
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:19.840
you have a new horror film going into production this

1177
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:24.119
coming February. And last month, not only were you kind

1178
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:28.000
enough to join us and discuss the project, you brought

1179
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:32.880
along your mother, famed actress Brooke Bundy, your co producer

1180
01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:38.320
David Thomas Newman, and the director Nile Kavoso Scarcia to

1181
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:41.920
talk about Catnip. Listeners, if you missed that one, go

1182
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:45.639
back to last month and check it out. It was

1183
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:50.679
an excellent conversation with the cast and crew. Now, Tiffany,

1184
01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:53.920
Nile's not here with us today, and I don't want

1185
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:57.079
to get you in trouble, but what can you tell

1186
01:05:57.159 --> 01:05:58.119
us about Catnip?

1187
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:03.239
I can share that it is a story of these

1188
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:13.360
people trapped in this apartment building with these insane killer cats.

1189
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:21.840
So we are using all practical effects we have. Yeah,

1190
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:27.519
we're using real cats, not only real cats, real rescued cats,

1191
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:34.280
all rescued cats. So they're going to after this. We

1192
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:38.079
have this lovely animal trainer who have multiple conversations with

1193
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:41.559
because you got to say it, because you know, we

1194
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:43.920
will always tell you. We always will tell you that

1195
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:46.400
we're when we're vegan, Like, how do you know Vegan,

1196
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:47.840
They're going to tell you, well, I'm going to tell

1197
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:51.760
you now I'm vegan. So there was an issue with

1198
01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:56.360
like people wanting to know, really, you're doing this movie

1199
01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:59.320
about killer cats and you're Vegan. I'm like, heck yeah,

1200
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.639
said these cats are going to be treated amazingly. Well,

1201
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:05.800
first of all, you can't train a cat with fear

1202
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.039
and intimidation. They'll just be like screw you and I'm

1203
01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:14.039
gonna take your eyes for good measure. So no, Cheryl

1204
01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:19.599
is like she's going to shelters and handpicking these cats

1205
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:22.239
because I have to be able to There's only certain

1206
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:27.119
cats that are very trainable. But Willie, our lead cat,

1207
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:31.400
who's only got one eye, he's going to be the

1208
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:37.800
main bad Katy so and he's he's beautiful. I'm gonna

1209
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:39.400
have see him with his makeup bon because he's just

1210
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.920
this gorgeous tuxedo cat awesome.

1211
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:46.760
I saw his picture on Instagram and if he's the

1212
01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:49.960
main yeah, he's going to be an awesome villain.

1213
01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:51.079
You that much.

1214
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:53.880
Yeah, he's a handsome boy. And we we have We're

1215
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:56.599
gonna have Monster the Dog. And I won't give away

1216
01:07:56.679 --> 01:07:59.880
if anything happens to the dog or not, because that's

1217
01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:02.760
always that's you always wonder. It's like every horror movie

1218
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:04.559
when you see the dog in the first shot, you're like,

1219
01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:07.840
oh God, the dog is gonna get it. The cuter

1220
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:12.039
and sweeter the dog, the worse it's gonna be, you know,

1221
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:16.720
And unless it's it's uh, you know, the Tarantino right.

1222
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:23.159
So anyway, but Caten, if we're actually one of the

1223
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:26.520
really really cool things about Catnip is it's gonna be

1224
01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:30.000
I'm gonna be working with my mom, buddy. So she

1225
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:35.960
was approached first by the director, and she was even

1226
01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:38.279
hesitating for well for a few reasons. But one of

1227
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.279
the things she was afraid to tell me. She's like, oh,

1228
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:42.640
my daughter will kill me if she knows I'm doing

1229
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:45.840
this it's a movie about killer cats. I'm like, oh

1230
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:49.119
my god, it sounds amazing. So I reached out to

1231
01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:51.680
the director and I was like, I want to support

1232
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:56.279
this film anyway I can. And so I had been

1233
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:59.560
working on promoting it and he asked me if I

1234
01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:02.319
wanted to audition for for a part in it, and

1235
01:09:02.359 --> 01:09:06.920
I was like, well, uh yeah, and I because I

1236
01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:10.199
had read the script, I'm like, this script is so good.

1237
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:14.600
It's really really good. It's just got all the right

1238
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:16.760
stuff in it. It's I mean, it's got all the

1239
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:19.920
it's got the kills, it's super gory, but it's super funny,

1240
01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:25.000
it's got some very tender moments, and it's it's just

1241
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:29.000
it's great. H Nile is a wonderful writer, and I'm

1242
01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:31.479
really excited about working with him. Well, I have been working.

1243
01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:34.880
We've been full scale pre production. So then on top

1244
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:36.640
of getting this role, he asked me if I wanted

1245
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:40.760
to be an associate producer. Oh oh, so I've been on.

1246
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:43.560
I'm part of the core team of associate producers. I

1247
01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:47.279
think there's like twelve of us. So it's going to

1248
01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:51.239
be very interesting. Because Nile is self proclaimed not a

1249
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:56.039
cat lover. Oh no, really house is going to work,

1250
01:09:56.439 --> 01:09:59.439
so it's going to be very interesting. But Cheryl's going

1251
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:01.960
to be managed the cats, and we have a great

1252
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.720
effects team like it, and if you go onto the

1253
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:10.000
Catnip website you can see all of his reels too,

1254
01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:13.199
like top notch stuff. So we're calling I mean, it's

1255
01:10:13.239 --> 01:10:15.720
not it's kind of like god A Gremlins, but for

1256
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:17.880
adults feel. That's how I've heard a lot of people

1257
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.920
say it. I'm like, yeah, it's kind of it modern

1258
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:24.520
modern Gremlins with adult feel, but it's also got that

1259
01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:28.720
kind of throwback horror feel to it. And we're gonna

1260
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:31.640
be more cast members have been announced every couple of weeks,

1261
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:34.479
and I guess Nile told me that we're going to

1262
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:37.319
be taking out an ad in variety and stuff soon

1263
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.119
in the next couple of weeks with announcements and more

1264
01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:43.680
cast members, and I think we're gonna have some good names,

1265
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.039
some good horror names in there, and it's gonna be

1266
01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:49.359
we think this is going to be really, really good.

1267
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:51.439
And if you guys want us back on the show

1268
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:54.960
as a team, because Nile and my mom and I

1269
01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:59.600
have been doing these podcasts and I call them podcasts.

1270
01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:06.840
Right, Yeah, listeners. She had, she had her palls up.

1271
01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:10.720
She was saying that fantastic, like a tough crowd.

1272
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:14.359
Tough. I have so many cat puns. My favorite, like

1273
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:21.920
the feline is mutual. Right, oh wow, Well, then the

1274
01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:24.279
tagline for this is the end is now.

1275
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:27.720
Now you mentioned Grimlins?

1276
01:11:27.800 --> 01:11:27.960
Is it?

1277
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:30.920
I've read? Is Catnip going to be like a Christmas

1278
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:32.800
themed horror film? Does it take place?

1279
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:35.880
Yes, it takes place on Christmas, So we're looking for

1280
01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:40.439
we're looking for a Halloween twenty twenty five release. Okay,

1281
01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:43.319
but it's going to be right at that cusp, just

1282
01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:46.079
like Nightmare Before Christmas, where it's in that sweet spot.

1283
01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:49.039
So it gets the Halloween people, and it gets the

1284
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:51.439
Christmas people, and it gets the cat lovers and the

1285
01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:57.239
cat haters. So there's something for everybody in this and

1286
01:11:57.359 --> 01:11:59.760
it's it's going to be a gas to work on.

1287
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:03.560
I'm so excited. And he's gonna Nile's gonna let me

1288
01:12:04.079 --> 01:12:08.359
photograph as well when I'm not working, so I get

1289
01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:10.439
to get pictures on the set, which is very different

1290
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:13.520
than like the Netflix shows, because they're like you can't

1291
01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:17.800
share anything about the show or who's on it, or

1292
01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:20.560
take any pictures really like when I when I did

1293
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:22.800
Under the Banner, I was like, I was in my

1294
01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:25.520
dressing room. I'm like looking around to see if I'm

1295
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:28.880
like cause I just wanted a picture in my ensemble

1296
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:31.479
because it was it's a period piece. I'm like, oh

1297
01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:34.920
my god, I look amazing. And so I got like

1298
01:12:35.039 --> 01:12:37.720
some selfies of myself and i'man the only ones I

1299
01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:39.399
sent it. I would send it to my agent. I'm like,

1300
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:43.520
you can't share this with anybody. They'll come after me,

1301
01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:46.640
they're gonna kill me. But they're like, they're so like,

1302
01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:49.279
you cannot share any of that information. So it's so

1303
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:52.960
much fun to be working on a project where they're like, yes,

1304
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:55.880
share it, promote it, tell everybody about it.

1305
01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:59.159
So you know, well, you've really got me hooked. I'm

1306
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:02.960
excited for that film because one, I'm a cat lover,

1307
01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:06.840
so I'm in that bucket right. Two I'm very excited

1308
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:09.960
to hear that they're using rescues, that there's so many

1309
01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:12.199
cats out there who need a good home, they need

1310
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:14.760
to be saved and loved, and the fact that this

1311
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:18.000
you guys are doing that, that is absolutely outstanding. So

1312
01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:20.520
kudos to you guys for doing that. I wish I

1313
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:22.119
could go get all the cats and save them, but

1314
01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:24.039
you just can't, you know, And I can.

1315
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.119
I can go even further. When I was talking with

1316
01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:29.479
the animal trainer about it, so she's they have a

1317
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:33.079
bunch of the cats at their studio and now some

1318
01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:35.800
of these cats, she said, they were all these strays around,

1319
01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:39.159
so she just ended up taking them in like there

1320
01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:41.039
was so, I mean, not all of them are like

1321
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:44.720
industry working acting cats, right, some of them are just

1322
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:50.159
like just free load and strays. But she's taken them in.

1323
01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:54.199
She's like because of the problem, and bless her heart

1324
01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:57.399
for going into these shelters, because now she's got the

1325
01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:01.479
assignment of picking animals that are going to be trainable

1326
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:05.840
for certain scenes right, certain things that they can do.

1327
01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:08.760
So she can't take them all, but she has to

1328
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:11.439
go see all of them. And she's like, I mean,

1329
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:14.800
and there's the PSA for the day man. The shelters

1330
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:19.159
are busting at the seams, dogs and cats and all

1331
01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:21.880
these people who got all these animals during COVID and

1332
01:14:22.079 --> 01:14:24.119
we're like, yeah, let's get an animal because we're stuck

1333
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:26.000
inside the house and we have nothing else to do.

1334
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:29.039
It's like and now people are back in their lives

1335
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:31.039
and they don't have time for these animals and they're

1336
01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:34.720
relinquishing them, or they got a breed that is not

1337
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:39.239
suitable for their personality, and it's really bad. Man. Just adopt,

1338
01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:43.920
don't shop. And there are so many peer breads out

1339
01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:46.840
there if you want some peer bread that you can

1340
01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:52.199
find one as a rescue likes. And I've worked rescue too.

1341
01:14:52.359 --> 01:14:56.920
I worked for a rescue organization and it's I mean,

1342
01:14:57.199 --> 01:14:59.000
and I've had my share of dogs that have come

1343
01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:02.039
from breeders, but I I never ever ever will again

1344
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:06.399
after working rescue, and it's it's the problem is not

1345
01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:11.960
getting any better. So and what is it? If you adopt,

1346
01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:15.159
don't shot. And if you can't adopt, foster, and if

1347
01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:18.720
you can't foster, volunteer, and if you can't volunteer.

1348
01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:22.640
Donate exactly. Yep, yep. I had a twelve year old

1349
01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:25.800
cat who passed away back in June, and I knew

1350
01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:28.640
I needed another one because you know, again, so many

1351
01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:31.600
animals out there who need a good home. So about

1352
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:33.600
three weeks after my cat had passed away, I went

1353
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:36.560
and adopted another one. And there's so many in there.

1354
01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:38.399
I just I want all of you come with me,

1355
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:39.920
but you just can't.

1356
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:43.520
You can't. And it's yeah, I mean it. Fostering is

1357
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:47.279
really great. Like we had our dog had passed a

1358
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:49.199
few years ago and it was a way of getting

1359
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:54.600
through my grief. Was I fostered and it was like

1360
01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:57.479
a life saver for me, and it was great for

1361
01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:01.840
the pups and we ended up keeping one of the fosters.

1362
01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:03.800
They say it's a foster failed, what I call it

1363
01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:04.640
a foster success.

1364
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:07.920
That's a foster success in my opinion. Yeah, absolutely, So.

1365
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.199
We have our kitty and our pupp are both rescues.

1366
01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:16.439
So yeah, there's my my feel about the rescue. So yeah,

1367
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:21.199
and and Catnip is We're on Instagram, We're on Facebook,

1368
01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:26.319
just started a little bit on TikTok and Twister as

1369
01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:33.439
I call it, and whatever the other one is in Facebook. Yeah,

1370
01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:38.960
so we're and of course the website and hopefully starting

1371
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:42.359
to book conventions and such like that. That's what I'm hoping.

1372
01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:44.800
So you're sure the crap out of it, don't worry.

1373
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:46.199
Oh, you guys are the best.

1374
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:48.960
Absolutely well, and you know, let's let's let's hopefully we

1375
01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:51.479
can get the Catnip Crew to some cons on the

1376
01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:53.319
East Coast. Like like I said, we would love to

1377
01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:55.560
have you at Scarefest. We'd love to have you at

1378
01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:56.039
Horror Hound.

1379
01:16:56.399 --> 01:16:57.159
That would be amazing.

1380
01:16:57.560 --> 01:16:59.039
Galaxy Con. Let's let's see you.

1381
01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:02.560
You know, guys, are you know, like I said, if

1382
01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:06.439
you have any any connection with the promoters, because we

1383
01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:09.880
think I mean, I know probably lots of filmmakers think this,

1384
01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:11.960
but we really think this is going to be a

1385
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.520
big one because nobody's done cats before, just the old

1386
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:20.399
school filming. That's really the people are really eating up

1387
01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:21.039
right now.

1388
01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:24.560
They want I'm a fan of it, want that look

1389
01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:27.600
the practical effects. We want to get the word out

1390
01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:30.319
there for you all about it because I'm big time

1391
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:31.119
behind this for sure.

1392
01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:34.640
Okay, now, Tiffany postcat Nip, are there any projects you

1393
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:36.079
want to you want to talk about anything you can

1394
01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:38.560
share with us. What's what's coming afterward?

1395
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:44.920
Well, there's I'm working with a screenwriter out of Utah

1396
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:49.520
who after Seen Come True And he's been a friend

1397
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:52.199
of mine on Facebook for a while and we just

1398
01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:55.760
and he's a photographer. He's a drone photographer, like amazing

1399
01:17:55.920 --> 01:18:00.640
stuff as gets like all the the old like paintings

1400
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:05.119
in Utah and the rocks and stuff rock art, but

1401
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.239
he does like amazing stuff. Anyway, he wanted He's like,

1402
01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:11.880
I want to write a script like with you was

1403
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:16.600
the bad guy, Horror, the villain, And I'm like, oh, heck, yeah.

1404
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:21.000
So he wrote it and he I mean, I can't

1405
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:22.920
remember how many drafts we have, and he got it

1406
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:26.279
registered and everything right now. It's it's getting a bit

1407
01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:30.479
of an overhaul, but that's something that I'm hoping gets

1408
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:34.840
up and going in the next couple couple of years

1409
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:39.359
at least. So I'm waiting for whatever he has next.

1410
01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:40.199
So that is.

1411
01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:45.119
Going to be probably called Evelyn like kind of evil

1412
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:51.159
in nicely and again a very interesting and kind of

1413
01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:55.520
unique story. So and yeah, I get to be the

1414
01:18:56.640 --> 01:18:59.760
the it's actually the the weapon of choice is a

1415
01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:03.039
one of those school paper cutter plates.

1416
01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:05.199
I like it.

1417
01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:10.239
That's that's and and yeah, and her counterpart, a woman

1418
01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:14.000
who's Navajo, uses these like deer the like elk Antler

1419
01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:17.640
things nice. So yeah, so it could be that could

1420
01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:20.399
be fun. And then I actually got a thing from

1421
01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:24.159
because I looked at my im D, I'm like, oh,

1422
01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:27.239
I called my manager because he had sent me a script.

1423
01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:28.800
This is my manager that I got in l A

1424
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:34.159
now for a project called The Summoning, So he I

1425
01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:36.560
think is going to be producing that and he wants

1426
01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:41.159
me to be part of it. So that is now

1427
01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:43.800
that's listed on my I M d B is pre production.

1428
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:48.840
So and that's that's about, you know, summoning possession. Of

1429
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:55.640
course we love that theme, so we got we got

1430
01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:58.960
the slasher Evelyn. But it's it's actually it's more like

1431
01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:03.680
psychological for it's got. It's they're all character driven. Like

1432
01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:05.600
the Catnip. I'm like, I don't know how you did

1433
01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:08.119
it now, but like I really love all these characters,

1434
01:20:08.520 --> 01:20:11.399
even the ones, even the buffoons and stuff. But there's nobody.

1435
01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:13.960
The nice thing in this in Catnip is there's nobody

1436
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:16.199
that you you want to get it, I mean, because

1437
01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:18.600
it always seems like in horror movies they're people that

1438
01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:21.600
you're just like, oh man, they're so punchable, they're so killable,

1439
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:24.760
they need like get them good, and not because they're

1440
01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:28.399
bad guys, but just because they're just like just so unlikable.

1441
01:20:29.159 --> 01:20:34.199
And all the characters in this are so likable, which

1442
01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:36.439
makes it so it's it's gonna tug at your heart

1443
01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:40.880
strings a little bit for this, but it's harsh on

1444
01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:42.720
the kiddies. Man. I'm like, I don't know how you're

1445
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:46.600
gonna do some of this stuff with these cats because

1446
01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:48.880
there's there's a lot of you know, it's it's a

1447
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:54.159
high body cant on both the human and the cat side,

1448
01:20:54.359 --> 01:20:55.640
so it gets ugly.

1449
01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:56.560
Oh boy.

1450
01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:01.359
Well, as we wrap up, Uh, Tiffany, I gotta ask

1451
01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:04.119
you one one last question here you are wearing a

1452
01:21:04.359 --> 01:21:08.359
very kick ass Soundgarden T shirt. Question is do you

1453
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:10.319
have a favorite album? Do you have a favorite favorite

1454
01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:11.239
song by the band?

1455
01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:14.079
Oh? God, so many? It's been my thing for all

1456
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:17.840
the podcast. Is I'm just doing like band shirts. I

1457
01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:21.359
always It's it's really simple because I have I have

1458
01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:24.119
so many as opposed to stearing my closet like what

1459
01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:26.680
am I gonna wear? I should wear something nice, I'm

1460
01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:30.079
like band shirts. That'll just be my thing. So today

1461
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:35.479
it's Soundgarden. Do I have a favorite? I don't have

1462
01:21:35.640 --> 01:21:42.199
a favorite. I gotta say for albums, I would say

1463
01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:47.840
probably down on the up side, I'm guessing good choice,

1464
01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:56.119
super Unknown, I love Bad, Motive Finger and I Mean Again.

1465
01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:58.680
And I was in Seattle. I actually got to see them.

1466
01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:03.000
Was it for the down on the Upside Tour, I think,

1467
01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:05.800
and got to see I mean it got to see

1468
01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:09.479
him in Seattle. Chris had just cut his hair but

1469
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:14.600
still looked amazing, right, you can rock any look. And

1470
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:17.279
I remember the day that I got the news about

1471
01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:22.279
his passing and it took me months to get over

1472
01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:24.800
that one, like really and it felt like so much

1473
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:27.600
like part of like Seattle died. It was like the

1474
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.640
day Seattle died to me. And we have my husband

1475
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:38.319
got this framed picture of him from The Stranger, which

1476
01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:44.840
is a Seattle paper, so it's it's this great photo

1477
01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:46.880
of him from when that happened. And then I got

1478
01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:49.199
this other artist because I was part of this Facebook

1479
01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:55.319
group that we were all just just grieving, like in droves,

1480
01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:58.439
just was we just could not wrap our heads around it.

1481
01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:02.800
And there was an artist who was doing these like

1482
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:04.840
paintings of him or drawings. I don't even know what

1483
01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:08.079
the medium is and he was basically just giving them

1484
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:12.720
away and it's these beautiful, beautiful painting. So we have

1485
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:16.000
that framed and I found all my old ticket stuff

1486
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:19.880
for when I saw them and put that in there. Yeah,

1487
01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:21.239
and I have I mean, I have a bracelet that

1488
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:24.479
says no One sings like you anymore? And what about

1489
01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:26.520
you guys? What do you? What are you saying? You're

1490
01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:27.920
your favorite? Uh?

1491
01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:32.680
For me, it'd probably be bad motor Finger, but I

1492
01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:34.800
did I did have the Uh. I was fortunate enough

1493
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:39.039
to catch them at Lollapalooza a long time ago and

1494
01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:42.800
Chris Chris had come out. He apologized before he even

1495
01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:45.039
they even started the first song. He said, I apologize,

1496
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:48.399
I'm I've I think I've got the flu, but I'm

1497
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:50.479
not sure, but I'll do my best. And his voice

1498
01:23:50.640 --> 01:23:54.760
was it was just beautiful, just incredible experience. Wow.

1499
01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:56.399
What year was that?

1500
01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:00.199
That would have been? Gosh, I don't want to date

1501
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:03.159
myself too bad here they would have it would have

1502
01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:05.760
been late nineties. Uh, you know, like like Lolla Pluza

1503
01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:07.720
was was still a thing, but it was starting to

1504
01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:09.920
fade out a little bit. That was the one where

1505
01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:12.840
they were co headlining with Metallica and I got I

1506
01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:14.840
gotta say they were the they were the show to

1507
01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:16.720
watch that that that weekend.

1508
01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:21.359
Wow. Yeah, I was at one of the last lollapulous

1509
01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:26.960
when it was Tool and Orb and Tricky like is

1510
01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:29.000
it well? I mean after Tool because I was like,

1511
01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:32.000
oh the hell is gonna come after Tool. It was

1512
01:24:32.159 --> 01:24:34.600
the ORB and I don't know if you've ever seen

1513
01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:38.279
the ORB. They were amazing. I was like, my my

1514
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:42.239
mind was blown by them. Very different. But yeah, like

1515
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:45.960
following up Tool, it's like, how do you even do that?

1516
01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:53.000
But yeah, so huge, huge loss from Cornell. You know,

1517
01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:56.680
we've lost, We've lost so many. We still have Eddie, Eddie,

1518
01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:03.520
keep with it, buddy, But yeah, I do love them,

1519
01:25:03.960 --> 01:25:05.319
love his solo stuff.

1520
01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:09.399
Definitely one of my favorites listeners. We've been talking with

1521
01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:13.720
Tiffany Helm and we've been talking about Friday the thirteenth,

1522
01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:16.760
a New Beginning, among other things. Let us know what

1523
01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:18.800
you think of this one, let us know what you

1524
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:22.359
think about Tiffany's other work. Let us know on social media.

1525
01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:26.560
You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, x. You can check

1526
01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:29.079
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1527
01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:31.840
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1528
01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:34.359
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1529
01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:37.880
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1530
01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:41.399
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1531
01:25:41.479 --> 01:25:43.399
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1532
01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:48.760
by Swag Tiffany, It has been an absolute blast having

1533
01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:53.279
a conversation with you, and I'm already looking forward to

1534
01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:59.760
having you back with Brooke, with Nile, the whole Catnip gang.

1535
01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.000
Bring the cats, well, bring the cats.

1536
01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:03.960
That's what I'm like.

1537
01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:09.039
We need to have WILLI on one of these. Yeah, yeah,

1538
01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:12.359
I don't think he's quite there yet, but I like

1539
01:26:12.479 --> 01:26:12.960
the idea.

1540
01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:16.319
And David, hey, you know they're they're the cameras are

1541
01:26:16.439 --> 01:26:18.800
rolling yet. Maybe it's not too late for for Dodger

1542
01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:19.760
to send in.

1543
01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:21.159
A Dodger out there.

1544
01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:23.039
Tape.

1545
01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:26.279
Yeah, all right, you're not there to work.

1546
01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:34.600
Absolutely, I'm freeloading exactly. Cats listeners, please check out all

1547
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:38.119
the links for for Catnip. Their website will have all

1548
01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:40.800
of that in our show notes, and we of course

1549
01:26:41.159 --> 01:26:44.760
want to wish you a very happy Friday at thirteen

1550
01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:46.640
We we thank you for listening.

1551
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:47.960
Thanks, thank you,