April 6, 2025

Val Kilmer: Our Top 10 Favorite Film Roles

Val Kilmer: Our Top 10 Favorite Film Roles
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Season 6 A Film By...

Jeff and David take pause to pay tribute to Val Kilmer with an unplanned discussion about their top 10 favorite performances by the legendary actor.

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I gotta be honest, man, I this is a sad

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day because, yeah, we lost Val Kilmer. He just passed away.

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I've been out a funk the whole day, man, Like,

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I just.

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It's it's a tough day when it's the first thing

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you look at when you wake up in the morning,

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that's the first thing that came up for me, like,

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and it's like, really, this is how I'm going to

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start my day.

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I honestly wanted to believe it was like leftover April Fools,

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you know, like they always do those celebrity hoax things

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on April Fools, and I thought, well, that's kind of cruel,

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like why would you pick Val and then you find

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out it's it's real and it just sucks. Yeah, listen,

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I know we were we were all set to to

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talk about a different you know, we're gonna talk about director.

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We're gonna talk about a movie. If you're cool with it,

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I said, we bumped that a week and let's just

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have it. Let's just have a conversation. Let's you know,

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like off the cuff, let's just come up with like

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our top ten favorite Val Kilmer roles. I think it's

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the least that we can do for so, I mean,

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you know, think about it like when I mean because

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because I'm just now like processing Gene Hackman is gone,

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you know.

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Yeah, and that wasn't too long ago.

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That wasn't too long ago. And I you know, when

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when you're dealing with a celebrity, you know, some an

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iconic actor or an actress, yep, you know, I think

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the best way to show tribute to that actor or

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actress or that director, that filmmaker, whatever the case may be.

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You know you're going to go on a on like

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a binge of their their their work, right Yeah, so

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I know I'm already thinking of like Valcimer movies I

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want to watch right now.

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Remember the days of Sun Coast when we when someone

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passed away, we will always make like an end cap

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with their movies.

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Yeah, like a like in a remembrance type of thing,

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you know, tribute thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, all right, I'll tell you what. Let's let's do.

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Let's do our favorite top ten Valkilmer roles.

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All right, let's do it. You know, I risk that

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I love more. I want to be a better person.

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I try to figure that out every day and of

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being more grateful.

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Hello everybody. I'm Jeff Johnson, David Byrne, and this is

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a film by podcast. Just a few things day before

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we get started, because you know, this might be fifteen

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minutes long, it might be fifty I don't I don't know,

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but I do want to. I do want to point

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out two things. If you were expecting to hear our

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Steven Spielberg episode on his director our debut Duel Dave,

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we are going to be We'll be back Monday, and

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we will do it the right. Yes, I'm looking forward

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to it, but this is Oh, I'm definitely looking forward

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to it, but I just, like you know, I'm not

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in the mood I want to talk Val Kilmer. So, uh,

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the only other thing I'll say, I gotta I gotta think.

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First off, I gotta think Wayne White died. You know,

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are our beloved uh expert on on film scores and uh,

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you know your co host on Phaser set the stunt. Yep,

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we decided to play a little April Fool's joke on

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our listeners last week. Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm glad. Well,

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Wayne was just off the charts. I've never heard him

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like that. Uh, So I'll let me just catch up

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the listeners real quick if they if they weren't aware,

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you know, if they because sometimes you know, you you

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know you're gonna pick an episode just based on what

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the title is, you know, if it's a movie you

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like or director you like, and when you see April

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Fool's episode, you're like, well, what am I getting into?

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I don't know. So we had some fun with our

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our buddies over at the Docking Base seventy seven podcast

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last well, actually Tuesday. We purposely went a day late

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so it could it could drop on April Fools.

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Yeah.

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Day Dayton purposely when a day early so he could

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hit on April Fol's day. Dayton and I switched places.

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So if you tuned into our show last week, you

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didn't hear me. You didn't hear you. Dave Wayne was here,

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but he was here with Dayton.

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Yeah, and they.

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Covered Napoleon Dynamite, which hats hats off to Dayton because

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he got me one last time. We agreed you do

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my show, I'll do your show and no, you know,

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I don't know what you're gonna do. I'll find out

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when when I hit play. Now, when I uploaded it,

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you know, he hands me the flash drive so I

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can upload it and it's ready to go now I want.

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I handed him my flash drive for the episode I

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did on Docking Base seventy seven with Eric Dearth and

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Liam Lewis.

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Yeah, it just.

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Said April Fools they episode because I didn't want him

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to know a thing, because you know, he's expecting me

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to do something like a like Van Halen or you know,

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of course kick Ass movie. We did Whitney Houston's debut

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album from nineteen eighty five because it celebrated its fortieth anniversary. Yeah,

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I did it because I knew he'd never expect that.

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But Dayton, meanwhile, the title when I uploaded it says Napoleon,

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So I just I'm like, oh, well that's that's cool.

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You know him and wayn are going to talk about

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Ridley Scott's Napoleon film with Joaquin Phoenix. Imagine my surprise.

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I heard Napoleon Dynamite. So listen if you if you

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didn't check those out, a lot of fun Dayton and Wayne.

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I can't thank them enough. They had a fun episode

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for us last week. And meanwhile, if you're if you're

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new to docu Base seventy seven, head over there. Watch

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listen to their episode because I I kind of took

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over his spot. Yeah, and we we had some fun

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talking about Whitney Houston.

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So yeah, nice nice twist for the.

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Yeah, and I just I love the fact. I don't

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know how we were able to keep it a secret

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because Dayton didn't tell any of his crew. I didn't

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tell any of you guys. You know, I remember what

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I told you guys, Like at the end of our

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Young Sherlock Holmes episode a couple of weeks ago. I

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was like, hey, ye, we're gonna be late and might

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have had something. You both were like you and Amber

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were like, what was going on?

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He was going on over there, don't worry about it.

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Yeah, Wayne had known for months, you know, so a

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lot of fun back to val Kilmer.

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Yes, let's get back to Valkilmer.

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Yeah, I I know, I know. Like I said, I

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don't know how long this episode episode's gonna last, because

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like we're just you know, we didn't really prep you know,

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so just rolling with it. But I did. I uh,

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I can tell you a couple of things, like, you know,

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on my way on my way home, I was like,

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you know what, a couple of fun things I at

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least want to have a couple of fun things. Of course,

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about Folcolm, did you do the same thing?

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I did the exact same thing, because I mean, come on,

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we gotta we got to look things up and this

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is what we do, right. So one of the things

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that I found very interesting. I didn't know this, uh

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he attended high school with Mary Winningham and Kevin Spacey.

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But one of the things that I found very interesting

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was apparently, uh he stated in his biography that for

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Mary Winningham that he was in love with her because

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she was old enough to drive and he wasn't.

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Okay, I don't know. I could never see being in

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love with Mary Winningham, but I can't either, But I mean,

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come on, they were probably so come on, if you're

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Anthony Edwards and that that that nuclear bomb movie, yeah,

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I can't remember that it was called.

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I don't know, but I know exactly what you're talking about.

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You know the movie I'm talking about.

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I do. Yeah. Yeah. But also you know, I found

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an interesting quote too from him, which I was like,

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that's that's kind of cool. So he basically talks about

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how he got intact. So he says, when I figured

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out that have money you had to work. I knew

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I couldn't hack a regular job, so I thought acting

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would be good because basically, you made your own hours,

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were ridiculously overpaid, and got the girls. Don't laugh. That

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was the truth. How funny is that.

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He is nothing if he's not honest, It's true. Yeah,

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that's fantastic.

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It is. It is and one more so, apparently he's

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notorious for turning down roles if you look back at

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some of his history.

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Oh, I know about this.

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So he turned down the role of pony Boy in

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nineteen eighty three The Outsiders because and this is the

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cool part, because he was working with a theater company

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at the time, and if he was to leave that

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theater group to go be in The Outsiders, they would

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have to cancel the show and all of those actors

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in that show would lose their jobs. So that is

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utter respect for Val Kilmer for staying there.

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Hold on, so you're because, okay, I I had something

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about him turning on a role. I didn't have this.

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You're you're telling me that he's in a theater company

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and he he skips out on The Outsiders, which is

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one of the best movies from nineteen eighty three amazing book.

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And he does all that just because his buddies won't,

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so his buddies don't get fired or loser jobs. John, Yeah,

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I call that talk about loyalty.

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Absolutely.

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Could you imagine I can't imagine anyone, but but uh,

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Tommy Howell doing doing fonny board Curtis so that I'm

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going to say, I'm glad that he did it because

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it's the it was the right thing to do. But

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I'm also I just couldn't see I don't know if

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I could see Val Kilmer playing playing.

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I can't either. So we obviously got the the correct

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versions of everything here.

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Well i'll tell you, uh, let me let me give

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you a couple uh near misses for for for Val Kilmer,

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I didn't know that one, but this one kind of

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connects because you know, obviously the Outsiders stars Patrick swayzey

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mm hmm. He turned down dirty dancing. What yeah, because

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he didn't want to be viewed as a sex symbol. Okay,

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all right, It's it's good to have a problem like that,

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you know.

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It is. Yeah, that is a good problem. I wish

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I had that problem, but it's yeah, uh.

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And then you got you gotta think about the timeline here,

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at the height of his his popularity, he's probably circling

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the same roles as William Baldwin and Keanu Reeves. Yeah,

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so I thought this was interesting. He turned down the

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William Baldwin roles in back Draft, Sliver and Fair Game.

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Wow.

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Yeah, and then he was up for the roles. Uh.

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You know, Keanu Reeves roles that he was in the

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running for included Point Break the Matrix and Johnny numonic Man.

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A lot of a lot of sliding doors there.

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There is a lot of slighting doors there. Wow. Well,

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I mean, he made the decisions that he wanted to

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make and they were correct for him, and we got

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we got what we got. So it worked out.

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I think it worked out amazingly.

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Yeah, it did.

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All right, I'll tell you what. Let's let's do it.

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Let's do a top ten list. I'm gonna go first,

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and I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep track here so

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we don't end up with nine or you know, we

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don't end up like fourteen.

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No no cheating, Jeff, no cheating, no cheating, Yeah, no cheating.

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All right, I'll say number ten. I'm gonna start out

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I'm gonna go with one. I feel is is definitely underrated,

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and now the more I think about, maybe we should

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cover it. At some point, he played an FBI agent,

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uh in a movie called Thunderheart. Did you did you

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see that one? Oh?

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Yes he did. That's a really good movie.

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It's an awesome movie.

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Yeah what nineteen ninety two? I think that was.

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Three maybe Yuh. He he's playing an FBI agent and

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his character is like, uh, one quarter sue, which is

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kind of interesting because in real life he's he's like

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I think he's a quarter Cheroke here, he's maybe at

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eighth Cherokee. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, but it's a it's

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a really cool like, uh, if you're into like film

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now r it's kind of got that kind of I

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think it was him and Sam Shepard, Graham.

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Green and yeah, Graham Green, Yeah, we love I know you're.

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A big Green great uh Graham Green fan. Uh yeah,

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if I remember it was it was kind of based

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off of a wounded knee, right, like the all the

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murders in the seventies. Yeah, but he's like an FBI

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They bring him in because they're like, oh, well he's

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he's part Native American, so maybe they'll open up to him,

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and you know it's you know, I don't know, I

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dig that movie. Yeah, we should definitely, I'm bringing that down.

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We should maybe cover that one.

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We should cover that one. I'm surprised we haven't covered

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that one because great film. And again, some of these

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films kind of slipped through the cracks, which is why

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we do this podcast, because we find them and we

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rediscover them and talk about him again.

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Yeah, all right, Uh, let's go. Let's let we're gonna

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count our way down to number to the number one

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pick here, Okay, and again, let's be honest, Dave, We're

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we're shooting from the hip here. So this isn't the best.

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This is in top top ten, I'm ranked.

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I mean, it's there's ten of them. But we're just

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we're just we're just we're just talking about our favorite movies, right,

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I'm not our favorite, our favorite, our favorite performance because

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I dig him, it wouldn't. And you know another thing

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about about that movie, I remember the soundtrack is awesome.

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It is. There's the reason why it's awesome.

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Jeff, who did that one?

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Remind me the amazing James Horner?

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Of course? Yeah, who am I talking to like, Yeah,

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you know you you have to know that you and

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Wayne are going to do another composer episode later this year, right, Yeah.

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Yep, we absolutely James Horner, Yeah, a lot of content

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to talk about. There's a man and a man in

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his anvil.

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Yeah about all right, Uh, give me give me a

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go number nine. Uh, let's give me give me a

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give me a pick here here do you guys?

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Well, Jeff, I think I'm gonna go with nineteen ninety

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five's heat when he plays Chris.

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Was it shareless, heearless?

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Careless? Yeah? I mean, come on, man, you're you're dealing

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with uh bank robberies and you know, scoring one last

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big score basically for money. And come on, let's talk

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that final fight, that fight through the streets when Valcimra

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comes out with that smile on his face and then yeah,

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oh my gosh, dude, and just just just a powerful

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scene there. But I mean, Val Kilmer really did an

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amazing job in this performance. He does amazing job with

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all of these performances that we're talking about.

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While by Michael Mann of course, yeah, Michael Mann. A

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while back, Uh Dayton invited me. I did a Patreon

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episode for Documay seventy seven, and he specificly goes like,

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I know you want to do this because I'm gonna

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talk about heat and he knows how which I love heat.

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So it's like absolutely the bank robbery scene that you're

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talking about, though, I had a very what I felt

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was a very non controversial take, but Dayton was like,

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are you kidding me? Have you got in mind? Of course,

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I just just you know, there was something about Tom

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size Boar. I you know, I had, I had an opinion.

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I'm standing by it though, but you know, you know,

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and just doing research for for for that episode, I

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can tell you I mentioned him and Count of Reeves

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kind of circling roles. Michael Man cast him in Heat

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because the original actor, who was in fact Count of

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Reeves had to back out afore shooting.

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So it worked out.

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It works out. Yeah. Uh did you ever notice though,

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I and again I had to go diging to find

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this back when we were doing I was doing research

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on heat. Uh, did you ever notice like when he

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wakes up at Robert de Niro's place, his beach house,

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he's got this very strange his like his right elbows,

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like it's like naturally swollen, almost looks like it's broken

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or something.

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It's like, think it's broken or something.

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And he always like when you watch, he always assumed like, well,

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you know, he got drunk, he was at the casino.

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Something happened, maybe he got in a fight, but they

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never acknowledge it, right, and that's it's so it's just

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been weird. I found out that's a real wound. Uh,

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it's because he broke his arm. Yeah, he broke his

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arm while he was filming the doors. He broke his

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arm doing a stage dive as Jim Morrison. And apparently

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the stunt guy that was there to catch him did

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not catch. You understand the didn't understand the assignment. He

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did not catch falcilmer you. Yeah, he he broke his

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arm like as bad as you can, you can break it.

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And that's like it was like a permanent thing like

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he that that that uh, that swollen elbow never went away.

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So wow, but you know you never you've never see

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it any of his other movies.

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So no, you don't. Well that makes sense now why

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you see that? Okay? Yeah, I did that, good tip bit. Well, Jeff,

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what's next for us?

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Okay, So this is number eight, right, yes, eight. We

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gotta stay honest. We're not gonna be like I'm a

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cheat and take six more.

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We're not doing a Hoffman here. Come on.

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Yeah, I'm gonna get it out of the way. I'm

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gonna get it out of the way because I'd be

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surprised if you don't mention it. He's Batman, He's, you know, Batman.

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Forever he is Batman. Come on, you got to give

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credit to that, right Yeah.

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Look. One of one of my all time favorite Kilmer

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Batman stories is that he actually found out that he

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had the role when he was literally in a bat

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cave doing research for ghosts in the darkness where you were.

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He was like an affort or something like that. Doesn't

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even read the script. He just he just accepted the job.

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And I guess, I guess if you're an actor, like,

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are you really gonna if someone off if if Warner

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Brothers offers you Batman, are you really got me?

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Let me let me read the.

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Script, let me see what it's. Yeah.

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No, you're not. No, you're not. Somebody came to you,

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Jeff and said, we're gonna we're gonna cast you as Clark.

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Can't I mean come on, you're you're not turning that down.

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You're not gonna fil So.

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Let's get let's get a really good wig maker. You know, yes,

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I'll shave I'll shave my beard off. Yeah I could. Yeah,

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Uh no, I just I gotta you gotta give credit

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to him there, because Michael Keaton. It was Keaton's role, right,

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And I know he had talked about I'd seen at

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some point I'd seen. Uh, he's like on Entertainment Tonight

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maybe I think Val Kilmer talked about how excited he was,

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and you know, he loved the franchise and he was

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excited to be a part of it. Yeah. It just

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sucks though, because even though they speak respectfully of each other,

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he and Joel Schumacher, they did not have a good

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time working together. And it started off so good because,

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like I you know, if you think about it, they're

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like a couple of weeks into production and Schumacher is

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telling Kilmer like, hey, I've got this other, I got

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this John Grisham book. I'm gonna do a movie. Uh

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it's got a time to kill and you are gonna

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be the lead. And they have such a bad time

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filming Batman Forever that Joel calls up Matthew McConaughey instead,

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So and Kilmer, you know, like they come knocking for

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for Batman and Robin He's like, no, thanks, I'm I'm good.

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Does not want to play Batman again?

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Yeah, I mean he got his fill I guess, so

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time to move.

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On, I guess yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, let's see

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what what was this? Number?

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Seven numbers?

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We'll call it. Yeah, I got I'm gonna write this down.

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You need to keep notes. Okay, keep keeping I'll keep notes.

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I'll keep it, keep it. Yeah. You know, we typically

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don't do this. We're like we're just we're.

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Ride without a hip right now from the hip hip.

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So, okay, what do you got?

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What?

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Pick? Pick one here.

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I'm going to kind of date myself on this one.

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So this is the year I graduated from high school,

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nineteen ninety one, and it is an Oliver Stone film.

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Jeff, Okay, I know what you're talking. Wait, I don't

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know he's worked with Stone, like what twice?

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Twice? Yeah?

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Okay.

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This is the story about Jim Morrison in the Door.

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Oh there you go.

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Yeah, I mean this is a story obviously that where

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he plays Jim Morrison and absolutely becomes him. If you

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watch this movie, it is crazy on how much he looks, acts,

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sings everything in this film. It is ridiculous.

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Okay, he's doing his own singing. And yes, as I recall,

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like the surviving members of the band said, he was

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so convincing. Yes, and his vocals were so good that

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they couldn't distinguish him from the real Jim Morrison.

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Correct.

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If that's gotta be the greatest compliment an actor could receive.

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Absolutely. I mean, if you get that, you know you've

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done your job. And I mean if if you the

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movies that we're talking about tonight, for valcilm or you

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just see the range this guy has. Okay, he is

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all over the place, and he shows you how talented

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this guy was. But I found another quote that I

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found kind of interesting, So it's a little long, so

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just bear with me. Here he says, I listened to

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a lot of records, I smoke quite a few cigarettes,

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and that the smoking stayed with me, unfortunately, And I

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copied his voice in much the same way as I

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would learn an accent with a lot of work. I

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got it. I found Jim's voice. Whenever people see me

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singing it's really me singing it's live Oliver Talking about

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Oliver Stone was counting a lot on the spontaneity and

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the authenticity, especially in the concert scenes. Everything was pre

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recorded just in case by I ended up performing it

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all live. It is all the thing of imagination, and

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one can have the tendency to underestimate it physically. I

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enjoyed myself a lot when I had to gain weight

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to incarnate Jim Morrison at the end of his life

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when he is in a stupor intoxicate about alcohol and drugs.

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He resembles Karl Marx. The makeup artist. Took polaroids and

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showed them to the doors which you're talking when you

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were talking about guitarist, and to Alan Rene to get

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their approval. They were amazed by the resemblance. That helped

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me a lot. Wow, doesn't it just give you chills? Man?

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It does? It does? I'll tell you. So. I want

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to call out our buddies Jason and Dee at the

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show that you can't be serious podcast. So they've got

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like their Patreon. I'm a part of it, and they

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got like there's like a chat you know that we

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you know, it's like the Patreon members and and you

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know you can't help but become really good friends with

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a lot of these guys. Okay, and you know, obviously

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that chat is just exploding with this news about Val Kilmer.

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I want to shout out though, a little shout out

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to to Tristan Martin if he's listening to this one

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he shared. He actually shared a post from Jennifer Tilly,

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who you know, I've always had a thing for Jennifer Tilly,

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You know that, Dave. Yeah, this is listen to this

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post that she that she shared today. She writes, A

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long time ago, I was auditioning for the movie The Doors.

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It was kind of a cattle call. They paired together

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potential gems with potential pamelas, and they were running behind,

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so we were spilling out of the casting office, sitting

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on the porch, the lawn and the driveway. All of

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a sudden, a sixties convertible came screeching up, blaring doors

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music at top volume, and a guy jumped out and

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strode inside. He had wild hair, and he was barefoot,

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shirtless and wearing nothing but a pair of tight leather pants.

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We all looked at each other, like, who is this guy.

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We were more than a little shook by the sheer

468
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audacity of his entrance. Well, of course it was Val Kilmer,

469
00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:28.279
and from that minu and on, nobody else stood a chance.

470
00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:32.160
Rest in peace, King Wow, And I hope I hope,

471
00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:35.279
uh you know, I mean, I hope you heard that

472
00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:37.160
in Jennifer Tilly's voice because I did.

473
00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:39.519
How could you not?

474
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.400
Yeah? But uh but Tristan, you know, I know, I

475
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:44.640
know we were all talking today. Uh, Tristan, thanks for

476
00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:46.279
sharing that, because I thought that was really cool and

477
00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:47.319
I saw it. I was like, you know what we're

478
00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:49.759
gonna talk about, Val Kilmer. I know we'll talk about

479
00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:51.519
the door. So so thanks Tristan.

480
00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:54.920
Absolutely wonderful quote. Good job. Well, Jeff give us our

481
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:55.440
number six.

482
00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:58.079
I'll give you. I'll give you another one. And it's

483
00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:01.200
only because uh it's fresh and my mind. It's probably

484
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:04.119
the most recent Valkimer movie I've watched. And what I

485
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:07.400
mean most recent mean you know I love all his movies.

486
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.759
But we we actually did back in December for our

487
00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:14.599
Shane Black episode. We did a movie called Kiss, Kiss

488
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.640
Bang Bang. Oh yeah, yeah, go back and check that out.

489
00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:20.079
Me and Andrew had a great time talking about this one,

490
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:22.920
So I don't want to step on that one too much, Dave.

491
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:24.599
But you've seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bank.

492
00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:27.319
Correct, it's been a while, yes, and him and Robert

493
00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:30.200
Downey junr. Yes. I think he gets mistaken for an

494
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.160
actor or something along those lines, if remember.

495
00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:38.599
Correctly, Rdij gets mistaken for Ardij correct. Yeah, yeah, who's

496
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:40.319
trying to become a detective. He's playing the role of

497
00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:43.599
a detective. And then they pair him Gabe Perry.

498
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:44.640
Yeah, yeah, yep.

499
00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:48.559
It's just I'll give you a couple just because it's

500
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:50.799
it's still fresh in my head. I do remember me

501
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:53.519
and Andrew talking about he had to drop fifty pounds

502
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.559
to play the role really quickly because he had just

503
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:02.160
played a heavy set king in Alexander, and his character

504
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:05.079
is typically viewed as the first openly gay character to

505
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:09.839
lead a Hollywood action film. And I say that just

506
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:12.000
so I could say this, because I Andrew got a

507
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.200
kick out of this. There's a scene if you were called,

508
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:18.200
they have to prove him and Robert Downie Jun. You

509
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:20.599
have to prove that they're in a relationship and they

510
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:24.599
are going to kiss. And when asked about how do

511
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:27.880
you prepare for something like that, you know if you're

512
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:29.720
told that you have to kiss Robert Downie Junior, what

513
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:34.119
what's your what's your preparation? He said, I just I

514
00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.279
really just thought about Kevin Bacon. No, no other context.

515
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:39.920
I don't know if he's got a he had a

516
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:41.759
thing for Kevin Bacon or what. But I just we

517
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:42.799
got a kick out of that one.

518
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:44.200
Yeah.

519
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:46.440
Yeah, listeners at a lot of fun on that on

520
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:48.319
that episode. Go back check out our Kiss Kiss Bank

521
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:52.640
Bang episode. Uh. And with that, Dave, we're probably I

522
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:54.480
think we're yeah, we're out. According to my notes, we're

523
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:58.599
like halfway through, so we are number five. Pick give

524
00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:01.079
me give him, give me a I'm gonna said, Kevin

525
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:04.279
Bacon movie. Give me a Val Kilmer movie.

526
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:07.240
Here, Dave, so little history on this film. This was

527
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:13.000
my introduction actually to Valkilmer. It okay, surprised. Take a

528
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:15.240
guess what do you think you said? It's your introduction

529
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:17.880
to Val Kilmer? Correct? What do you think it is?

530
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.119
It's gotta be real genius or top gun?

531
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.839
That would be incorrect on both on both of those.

532
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:26.759
Okay, what do you got?

533
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.319
My introduction to Val Kilmer was seeing this film in

534
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:32.160
the theater in nineteen eighty eight, and it is, of

535
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:39.079
course Ron Howard's Willow Willow. Yes, sir, you are great. Yeah. Mad.

536
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:41.279
He plays Mad Martigan in this and is just an

537
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:46.240
absolutely stunning character in this This is the movie that

538
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.720
caused me to go back to watch Real Genius watch

539
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:54.160
Top Gun because I saw how talented this dude was

540
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:57.359
and I wanted to see more of him.

541
00:26:57.480 --> 00:26:59.200
He is such a fun character in that movie.

542
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:01.519
He is, I mean, he plays strong, he plays a fool,

543
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:05.279
and he's an accidental hero. Really in this film, he's

544
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:06.079
all over the place.

545
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.839
Is He's kind of like a fantasy, middle aged fantasy

546
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:13.640
version of like Jack Burton, Like he's stumping, like he's

547
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:16.599
falling asked backwards into like saving the day for most.

548
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.960
Of the movie, I think, I mean, I think Joey

549
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.720
Whaley's character kind of helped him out a little bit throughout.

550
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:29.599
Who became his wife, because yes they did, they had

551
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:30.960
a couple of kids together.

552
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:35.559
I'll tell you, I'll tell you. As I recall, John

553
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:39.200
Cusack had tested for the role and was he had

554
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:42.279
it all but locked up until Val Kilmer showed up,

555
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.319
you know, and it could have been a sixties convertible,

556
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.640
like the situation with the Doors. We don't know, but

557
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.359
but yeah, he took the role from Junky right right

558
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.160
out right out of John Cusack's hands. You know, you's

559
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:54.759
a great movie.

560
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.039
It is a great movie. Love it, great fantasy film.

561
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.359
You mentioned earlier about him getting hurt breaking his arm

562
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.119
on the in the Doors. Apparently Howl Kimber is like

563
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:05.920
really into his role. So, uh, he got hurt on

564
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:07.960
this one too. Remember the scene that he was in

565
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.720
the cage when he got with Willow met him. Yeah,

566
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.519
well apparently he felt out of that case the cage

567
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.960
came down and slammed on his foot over him pretty bad.

568
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.440
So there's some scenes that you'll see him like walking

569
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:24.480
gingerly in some some of those scenes. So yeah, apparently

570
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:26.079
he really gets in his roles and doesn't care if

571
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.279
he gets hurt or not. But just makes me appreciate

572
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:30.640
him so much more as an actor.

573
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:33.640
You know. Okay, so you I don't know why I

574
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.720
didn't think about this earlier, but we we we had

575
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.440
just talked to to Ron Howard. What was there yesterday? Yeah,

576
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.279
it was yesterday. Yeah, did you I mean you, well,

577
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:45.920
you talked to him. I didn't talk to him, did you?

578
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.480
Did you mention Willow at all? Did you did you

579
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:49.839
talk about cars Filmer?

580
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.599
Of course I mentioned had sign my Willow poster, so well, okay,

581
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:58.240
well yeah I did. Actually it had to be quick,

582
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:00.640
obviously because his lunge was really long. But first off,

583
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.400
Ron is super nice and just had a genuine smile

584
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:05.839
on his face when I walked up to him. But

585
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.440
I asked him, I said, you know what, what was

586
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.799
Val Kimer liked to work with? And he immediately responded

587
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.200
and said he was wonderful at what he did and

588
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.880
that was the very reason why he was chosen to

589
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.400
be a mad Martigan in Willow. I followed it up

590
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.640
with mentioning how versatile and that he had an amazing range,

591
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:29.240
which Ron quickly agreed with me on that is absolutely incredible.

592
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.319
I'm glad. I'm glad you got to mention Val.

593
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.119
I mean, of course, it's how unusual it is, though,

594
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.400
that I finally get to meet Ron Howard after all

595
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:39.759
these years. They never thought I would get to meet

596
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:41.960
the guy. And the week I get to meet him

597
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.240
is the week that Val Kilmer passes away. I mean, honestly,

598
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:47.759
what are the chances of that? Well, yeah, because like

599
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.519
you don't want to bring him down. You know, No,

600
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:51.920
we're all we're all there. We were all there at

601
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:52.960
Still City to have.

602
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.000
A good time in Pittsburgh, right. But I liked it.

603
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:57.680
I liked that he had something nice to say.

604
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:01.000
Yeah. Absolutely, well, Jeff, let's move on. I'll give us

605
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:02.119
our number four, buddy.

606
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.079
Well, you know i'll because I just said it, and

607
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:10.000
you know I was wrong. Uh, it's Real Genius. We got,

608
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.240
you know, hey, and he's playing he's playing Chris Knight.

609
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:15.960
You know, I tell you one thing I love about

610
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:20.359
Real Genius helped me with my movie Math. But I'm

611
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:22.880
pretty sure he's the second movie character to stick it

612
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.119
to William Atherton. I think correct, because yet Bill Murray

613
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:28.359
didn't Ghostbusters, and that was that would have been the

614
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:33.839
year before Real Genius, right, and then Bonnie Bedelia and

615
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:36.400
die Hard does it a couple of years after him.

616
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.559
So he's right there in the prime.

617
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:39.880
You know, he's a good club.

618
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:43.039
Why is William Atherton always a dick? You know?

619
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.319
He just plays it so well. That's why.

620
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:50.240
Yeah, I'll tell you that Chris Knight. He speaking of

621
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:53.319
Bill Murray, I feel like his char I feel like

622
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.200
Valle's character in Real Genius is reminiscent of Bill Murray's

623
00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:01.599
character and Meatballs. Yes, yeah, he's kind of like the older,

624
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.240
cooler guy that takes the shy adolescent under his wing

625
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.640
and teaches him to be confident but also cut loose.

626
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.160
I definitely did that. I didn't think a double feature.

627
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.759
Yeah, yeah, because Meatballs and real, real, real genius.

628
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.440
Yeah, I mean it takes place with what an engineering college?

629
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:20.759
So I mean, yeah, you have you have a summer

630
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.279
school for you know, and then you have it works out.

631
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:26.359
It could work out. Yeah, the kids gotta leave camp

632
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:27.839
and they go they go at the school.

633
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:28.960
Yeah.

634
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:31.880
That movie is so fun though, And Chris Knight is

635
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.680
just cool, like he's he's clearly you know, at that time,

636
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:36.799
I think he was what he had already done, like

637
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.400
what top secret? I think. Yeah, so he's like the

638
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.119
he's the the lead, he's the headliner. You know, his

639
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:47.880
Chris Knight. Remember the VHS box cover like Chris Knight

640
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.240
is the the eighties Einstein or something like that.

641
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:54.039
How could you forget that that cover? I mean you

642
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:55.960
see it right ahead of your head, especially when working

643
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:57.000
at Suncoast, you just know it.

644
00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:59.720
Yeah, and I'll tell you. I'll tell you one other thing.

645
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.640
I don't care what anyone says. If you if you

646
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:08.079
tell me that h Ryan Reynolds wasn't looking at Val

647
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.279
Kilmer as Chris Knight as a template to play a

648
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:16.400
lot of Ryan Reynolds roles like Van Wilder and Waiting

649
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:20.160
and all these movies where he's the older, kind of

650
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:24.960
cooler guy that shows the adolescent how to be cool. Yeah,

651
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:27.960
he's he's he he he had to watch real genius.

652
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.960
I think he had to, right, Yeah.

653
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:31.440
What's that?

654
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:33.640
What's that? Leader? I think that we got three left

655
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:39.200
left your your turn, because there's there's only a couple

656
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:41.279
more that I can think of right off the top

657
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:41.640
of my head.

658
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:44.559
So I'll, you know, and listen freaking out right now

659
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:46.400
because they're like, oh my god, they're not gonna say this,

660
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:47.160
but what are these.

661
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.960
Guys watching like, well, I mean again, no prep, we

662
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:53.920
just were just just talking. So exactly what do you got?

663
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:54.480
What are you thinking?

664
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:56.720
So you mentioned this one a little bit ago, and

665
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:58.079
this is one of the Willow was one of the

666
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.920
reasons why I went back to see this. Uh. And

667
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:03.319
of course that's a nineteen eighty six top gun, which

668
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:05.519
we had a great conversation on the nineteen eighty six

669
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.559
series with the group about this film where he plays

670
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:11.400
Ice ice Man, whatever you want to call him.

671
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:20.359
He's credited Tom Kazanski Icemance, He Flies Ice Cold, The Mistakes.

672
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:25.039
Exactly, directed by Tony Scott of course. Yeah again. You know,

673
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.000
Val Kilmer has played with so many amazing directors through

674
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.839
down this list. It is nuts. This shows you his

675
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:34.480
talent because he's gonna work with talented directors because he's

676
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:35.920
so good too well.

677
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.839
But I mean he he didn't want to do this movie. No,

678
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.119
he forced to do it by contract.

679
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:41.559
Yep.

680
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:45.480
Yeah, Tony Scott's promising him it's gonna be a great experience. Uh.

681
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.000
From our episode, didn't didn't Val? Didn't He say something

682
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.119
like Top Gun was both a blast and the education,

683
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.480
and it goes yep, su, Yeah, that's something like that.

684
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.200
So one of his quotes, jeffic Hen reminds me me

685
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.440
and you. So I'm gonna say you you are still dangerous,

686
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.359
but you could be my wingman anytime.

687
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:08.280
Bullshit you can be boy. Oh speaking of bullshit, Davy.

688
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:09.840
Maybe I don't know if we talked about this or

689
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:11.800
not on our our Top Gun episode for nineteen six,

690
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.800
but one of the more quotable lines delivered by Ice

691
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.400
is when he costs the word bullshit at Maverick's claim

692
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:21.480
of flying inverted over the MiG.

693
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:22.079
Yeah.

694
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.800
That was ad libbed by Kilmer, and everyone's reaction that

695
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:27.639
you see in the movie is real because they had

696
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.239
no idea how perfect that perfea.

697
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.840
Yeah, I got to love when that stuff like that happens.

698
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.960
Man, I absolutely love it the fact. Yeah, and I'm

699
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.239
not cheating here just as an ad on the top gun,

700
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:42.119
I love the fact that that Tom brought Valkimmer back. Yes,

701
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.159
because there that's maybe the best moment in that movie,

702
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:47.920
the most heartfelt moment in that movie.

703
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.599
Most heartfelt movie. Yes it is. Yeah, we saw that together. Yeah,

704
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.480
I mean I just I just remember just the feeling

705
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.480
you got when that scene started. You knew it was coming,

706
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.800
and it's just man, just it gives you chills because

707
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.039
you didn't think it was gonna happen in this film,

708
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.719
and they actually made it work, and it's just phenomenal

709
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:08.880
that they did that. It really is.

710
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:13.599
What's he saying, Maverick, The Navy needs Pete Mitchell, and

711
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:15.000
that's why I fought for you all these years.

712
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:18.159
Yeah exactly, Yep, Yeah, I know, man.

713
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.079
It's minor cheap top gun, Top Gun, Maverick.

714
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.840
It's the same character, so we same character. That's exactly yes, yeah,

715
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:26.360
oh Jeff, that pulls us down to number two. What

716
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:26.639
is it?

717
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.360
I'm dying to watch it, but I always wait till summertime.

718
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:31.360
And don't ask me why. It's a summertime movie for me.

719
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.599
Maybe the shortest amount of screen time he's had and

720
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.119
you don't really even see his face. But one of

721
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:47.000
my all time favorite movies Tony Scott again again True Romance,

722
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:51.079
where he plays the Mentor. Yes, okay, in the history

723
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:54.719
of movies, no character has had a cooler subconscious than

724
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:59.920
Clarence Worley in True Romance. His inner thoughts, like Christian Slater,

725
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.000
his inner thoughts are basically brought to life by what

726
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:07.360
is clearly the visage of Elvis Presley. But they didn't

727
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.079
want to get in trouble with the Presley estates, so

728
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.159
they called him the Mentor. And he's played by Val

729
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:17.960
Kilmer beautifully perfect decision. Oh yeah, his voice like it's

730
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.280
just and it's just cool, like his in the Sage

731
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.880
Advice he gives clearance as insane as it is in

732
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:25.800
some of the cases. But remember this is all this

733
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.440
is Clarence's head. He's just basically trying to talk himself

734
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.280
into or out of doing things. You can only hope

735
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.559
that your your inner monologue sounds like Val Kilmer doing

736
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:39.239
in Elvis Presley in personation. It's awesome, it's so cool.

737
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:41.239
It is in a film written by Quentin Tarantino.

738
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.400
Yeah, written by QT. Like, what's what's he? What's the

739
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.920
Uh Clarence's little what he's not as confidences like, hey

740
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:50.199
was that cool? He's like, oh you were cool?

741
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:53.159
And I love it?

742
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:59.880
Oh man. Yeah the mentor again, uh, not his biggest

743
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:01.199
role or his most prominent.

744
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.920
Role, but his coolest role, but its coolest role. Yeah.

745
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.320
Yeah, there's a I don't I have to check, but

746
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.639
there's a I forget that I figured the company, but

747
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:12.039
there's there's a company that's doing true romance action figures,

748
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.280
and the mentor is one of them. They're only I

749
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.960
think they're doing like Clarence Alabama, Drexel and the Mentor.

750
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.840
I think that's what they're doing. But yeah, I gotta

751
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:24.159
give me a mentor here. I gotta get me a

752
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:29.159
mentor figure. All Right. It just dawned on me this

753
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:32.960
whole time we're talking. Yeah, and we haven't brought this one.

754
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.000
We have one pick left. I I hope you're gonna

755
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:37.800
you're you know, you're not gonna say like the Sultan

756
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:38.920
Sea or you know.

757
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.280
The Saint the same. It's a good movie, don't get

758
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:43.599
me wrong.

759
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:46.760
Can we can we do like an honorable mention for

760
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:47.159
the Saint?

761
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:48.079
Yeah?

762
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:52.199
I thought that movie was that should have been a franchise.

763
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:53.920
I agree it should have.

764
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:56.880
I don't know why it wasn't, And I didn't do

765
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.199
any research on so I can't tell you what it wasn't,

766
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.119
but I do I will say this, that was one

767
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:02.840
of those Sun Coast movies, like when we were back

768
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.800
at the store. Yeah, I remember when that one came

769
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:11.239
out on on VHS and DVD. Yeah, we played the

770
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:12.719
we put the ship out of that thing.

771
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:13.519
It was a good movie.

772
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:18.079
Yeah, it was a good movie. Him and Elizabeth Shoe Yeah. Yeah,

773
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.039
all righteah, sorry, honorable mention.

774
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.039
That's that's our number one. There we go, no kidding.

775
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:27.400
So yeah, for all the fans of the Saint, uh,

776
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:29.320
we at least gotta we gotta give it some love,

777
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.880
So we do, all right, give you better, you better

778
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:33.360
say the right title here, what do you? What do you?

779
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:34.559
What do you? What are you about to say?

780
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.440
Well, Jeff, I'm your Huckleberry.

781
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:46.320
Yeah, nineteen ninety three's Toonstone Holiday to me, Jeff, the

782
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:51.000
best performance of all times from Val Kilmer.

783
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:53.559
And that says a lot because he has done a

784
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.840
phenomenal job in all the movies that we've already talked about. Okay,

785
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.719
but yeah, how he portrays Doc Holliday and it is

786
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:04.280
an absolute damn crime he did not win an Oscar

787
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:06.199
for this role.

788
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.599
Hold on, now, Okay, so think about this because I'm

789
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.639
sure he wasn't even nominated for this one. Yeah, and

790
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.159
now you got me thinking about oscars like what he

791
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:20.000
did to become Jim Morrison like and Alburton like, I

792
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:21.480
don't know, I'm not gonna look it up right now.

793
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.559
But if he wasn't not I don't know how he

794
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.400
didn't win, But if he wasn't nominated, that's that's the

795
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:30.039
real crime it is. But yeah, I'm glad that we

796
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:35.159
we we were ending on Tombston because that's I think

797
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:38.440
I'm gonna say that's his best role, his best film

798
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:40.400
role ever. It is it is.

799
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.639
I mean, he's playing a guy with tuberculosis and he

800
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:47.320
pulls it off so well man. I mean, you watch

801
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.280
him on screen, you believe he is freaking sick man.

802
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.000
And I'm still is able to, you know, make the

803
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:58.679
performance real and feel real. I know the scene at

804
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.679
the ok Corral wo when they were, you know, getting

805
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:03.199
ready to fight, and I believe it was it Thomas

806
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:05.880
Hayden Church that he says that you're a daisy if you.

807
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.400
Do or what? Okay that that's at the the end

808
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:16.079
of the gunfight. I can't remember which choy is URCH know, well,

809
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:18.760
Thomas Hayden Church is the one that that that kicks

810
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:19.239
things off.

811
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:21.000
Okay, that's okay.

812
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:23.320
It's the guy with the mustache. I can't remember. I

813
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.320
can't remember who it was because the guy's like I

814
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:26.840
got you, you son of a bitch or something like that,

815
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:30.480
and he's like, you're a daisy. Yeah, great line.

816
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:33.480
Yeah, And do you believe it or not? But that

817
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.039
is an actual line that the real doc Holiday said

818
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:37.519
that they use it in the film.

819
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:40.159
How would what was that like in the paper or

820
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.639
something or how would they well, I guess they had

821
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:44.039
they had printing presses and all that.

822
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:45.159
Of course they did.

823
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:48.079
Jeff, you know you were talking about Thomas Hayton Church.

824
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:53.280
You gotta keep it this in mind. Val Kilmer always

825
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:55.760
the improv guy. So that's scene how it kicks up.

826
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:58.800
Remember it kicks off because Val Kilmer, oh, I should say,

827
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:02.360
Doc Holliday winks at it like everyone's frozen, no one's moving,

828
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:05.880
and he winks at Thomas Hayden Church. And that's what

829
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:07.800
causes Kurt Russell to be like, oh my god. And

830
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:12.159
then you know it's all him him, yeah, him winking

831
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:16.480
at Thomas Hayden Church. Him whistling. Yeah, you know, they're

832
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.079
they're doing that walk down the down the street and

833
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:21.719
he's he's it's quiet, but he's whistling the whole time.

834
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.000
You know, even uh when he's gambling earlier, like he's

835
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:30.440
rolling the coin on his knuckles. That's that's. That's all

836
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.920
Val Kilma in the moment. That's not that's no one saying, hey,

837
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.679
try to do this, and he's he's got that that

838
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.880
that thing like yeah, he he I think in the

839
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:42.599
doors he's he's using a drumstick, you know, twirling it

840
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.360
between his knuckles. In top Gun, it's it's an ink pin.

841
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:48.840
When they're talking about the hard deck, Yeah, that's that's

842
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:52.280
the thing. He always rolls an object on his knuckles.

843
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.119
It's like a I can't remember correctly, but didn't he

844
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:57.079
do something with swords and Willow? Where he was like

845
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.320
where he was like doing something him like.

846
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.920
A playful little Yeah, I have to watch. That's been

847
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:04.280
a while since I've seen Willow, but it is so

848
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:04.760
for me too.

849
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.199
But I dig that he's something like that. Yeah.

850
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:11.800
I dig that he improvs mannerisms like sometimes it's a line,

851
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.960
like like the bullshit line, but sometimes it's just physicality

852
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:16.880
that he puts in the end of the road.

853
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.159
I dig that. And speaking of lines, Jeff, you know

854
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.719
how much I love quotes. Okay, Yeah, and I love

855
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:24.880
to put him in here. I found one actually. Volcomer

856
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:26.719
mentions his role as Doc Holliday.

857
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:27.639
Okay.

858
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.199
He says, I liked being Doc Holliday. It's fun to

859
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:33.280
be insightful and aristocratic, to stand up for your friend

860
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.519
and make sacrifices for him. It was fun to be

861
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:37.920
arrogant like he was and have the goods to back

862
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.719
it up. He was a very noble character, although let's

863
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:42.599
not forget he did kill a lot of people.

864
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:49.840
Yeah, I'll tell you what, Uh wrapping things up here,

865
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:57.280
Doc Holiday, And if I'm thinking, I'd probably Iceman. Between

866
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.360
Doc Holliday and and Icepan Who who would you think,

867
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:03.880
in your opinion, who has the better quotes? Who or

868
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:07.119
which character do you think is more quotable? And you're

869
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:08.639
in your opinion they.

870
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.039
Both got some great quote They've got some great ones, right, yeah, yeah,

871
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.719
they really do. Dude, I have to go with Doc Holliday.

872
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:18.360
They're going to go. Doc know many good ones throughout

873
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.039
that film, and the fact that some of them were

874
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.039
actually real from the actual Holiday. I gotta go with him.

875
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:27.760
I think I might. It's so easy to go Doc Holiday,

876
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.440
but it is Iceman has so Okay, I'll say this,

877
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.920
I think Holiday has the more fun quotes, but but

878
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.880
I think Ice no pun Intendent, has the cooler quotes.

879
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.079
You know that is the hell of a thing for

880
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:40.639
you to say to me.

881
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.840
Well, Dave, the plaque for the alternates is down in

882
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:56.559
the ladies room, So you know I don't like Yeah,

883
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:00.280
do your times. I've like at work, I've you know,

884
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:02.599
been in the moment, just gotten one of my buddy's

885
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:04.639
face and said I don't like you because you're unsafe,

886
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:06.239
especially what we're doing like safety training.

887
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:08.239
That's awesome.

888
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:14.119
I'd be curious as to see what people think. Like, Yeah, listeners,

889
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:16.840
what's what's the right answer here? You gotta you gotta

890
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.039
tell us, like reach out on social media, tell tell

891
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.880
us on you know, help us or Instagram or Facebook

892
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:24.599
or email us? You know who?

893
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:25.119
Who?

894
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.360
What's your favorite quote? Who has the better quotes? Do

895
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:33.199
we mention? Yeah, you're a daisy if you do? Uh?

896
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:36.239
You know, I can't wait. Someone's gonna send us an

897
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.000
angry letter because we didn't. We didn't mention the one

898
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.760
of their favorite valcamera movies. I'm just gonna reply like

899
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.719
I want. I'm like, I'm gonna tap a gun. Are

900
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:49.199
we cross? Maybe it is a caliday now I think

901
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:53.079
about it, but I don't know. Dave, thanks for just

902
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:56.480
having a cool chat man and and uh and celebrating

903
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:01.119
the uh, the career of Alcilmer. It's unfortunate that we

904
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:04.880
lost him, but it is we have his movies, you know,

905
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.400
for forever, and that's that's a that's a good thing

906
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:07.719
for us.

907
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.360
I think absolutely, it is. Man, It's a pleasure.

908
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.719
Well, listeners, As I said, uh, did we talk about

909
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.159
your favorite movie? Did we what's your favorite quote? You

910
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.800
can let us know. You can find us on Facebook, Instagram,

911
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.480
and x. You can reach out to us at a

912
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.199
Film by a Podcast at gmail dot com, and you

913
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:28.920
can check out our website www dot a Film by

914
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:35.159
a Podcast dot com, and Dave, there's always Patreon. I'll

915
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.760
say you guys, you just kicked off the a film

916
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.400
at fifty escape to which Mountain?

917
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.079
Yep, and got another big one coming up soon.

918
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.239
Yeah, I noticed you didn't You didn't tee it up?

919
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:47.599
Are you gonna make us guess?

920
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.159
Because yeah, we're keeping a secret because we want people

921
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.119
to think about what came out in nineteen seventy five

922
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:55.599
and then just join us to see what we're talking about.

923
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:58.239
So we're not gonna tell you what the next one is.

924
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.119
Listeners, check out hit you on dot com slash a

925
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:06.400
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926
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three dollars a month, or you can sign up for

927
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.960
a free trial. So like a free what is it, Dave?

928
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:14.280
Like a free seven day trial?

929
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:14.719
Yep?

930
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.639
Get in there like Columbia houses. Just get in there,

931
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:21.159
download everything and get like, you know, I'm out. It's

932
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:23.800
six days in, I'm out. You know that's cool, but

933
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.039
you know, at least you're gonna be, you gonna be

934
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:28.119
getting some cool You're gonna be. You're gonna be getting

935
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:34.480
some cool exclusive episodes. And David's been a bit so

936
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:36.840
that we've got quite a catalog built up over there.

937
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.960
Oh my gosh, do we ever? Yeah, a lot to

938
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:40.440
dig into.

939
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:47.320
Yeah. Well, for those of you following listening, checking us

940
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:52.440
out on social media, we thank you and we hope

941
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.159
that you're gonna watch the Valcomer Movies.

942
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:55.119
Absolutely this week.

943
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:56.440
See you next time.