Dec. 27, 2024

1996: Beautiful Girls

1996: Beautiful Girls
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Season 51996

Join us for a nostalgic trip back to the year 1996! We're exploring the culture, the music, and the message that films in 1996 offered, to determine whether they're classics, cult classics, or a product of their time! To close the series, Jeff welcomes back author Andy Frye for a chat about coming-of-age storytelling, going home again, and the expectations men and women have about Beautiful Girls!

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These are the movies of nineteen ninety six. What's up, everybody.

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I'm Jeff Johnson from a Film by podcast and I

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hope you're down for just one more episode of this

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dope series. We've broken down the fresh films of nineteen

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eighty six, we examined the gritty cinemascape of nineteen seventy six,

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and now it's time to check out the hella good

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flicks of nineteen ninety six. We've had a lot of

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fun this year with this limited series. It's given us

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the opportunity to discuss some of our favorite films from

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nineteen ninety six. Our friend Andy Frye has joined us

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several times, and he's been good enough to come back

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one last time for the last nineteen ninety six episode

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we're doing. Andy. Welcome back, my friend. Hey, you doing great.

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It's great to see you. How was you know, Hope

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you had a great Christmas?

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Yeah? Yeah, I watched lots of movies. A good part

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is that there are new Christmas movies, or at least

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new to me. There's it's not just I mean, I

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love jingle all the way and I roll my eyes

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when somebody has to put on its wonderful life. But yeah,

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a couple. Yeah in Chicago, there's uh, you know, I'm

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based in Chicago, and there's office Christmas party I gotta

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watch tonight, and then it just watched Red One and

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there's a couple other kind of new takes on the

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whole Christmas thing. So we need a good Honeker movie.

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Probably good quant of movie, I guess too. But you

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know the good the good part is that there's new stuff.

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It's not just remakes of the old stuff.

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I'd be up for that absolutely. So if memory serves,

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at the beginning of the year, I told you about

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this series, and you know, asked you to join me

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as often as your schedule permits, and the first thing

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you said was let's talk about Beautiful Girls.

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Yeah.

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Well, early this week Amber and I covered the ref

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directed by Ted Demmy. It's just happenstance that Beautiful Girls,

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also directed by Ted Demi, is our episode today.

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Sometimes you have to go on, you remember, to find

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what you want.

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With another person, to discover what's real.

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You like that I'm going along with that silicon I

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can hang my olt coat on them, and to remember

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the friends you have, you know, I know I came

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back here for a reason.

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Beautiful Girl, rated R.

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It starts from the February Night, A piano player at

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a crossroads in his life, returns home for his high

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school reunion, where he finds his friends waiting with their

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own problems concerning life and love. And tell me, tell

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me about your relationship with this movie first time seeing it?

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What what what this one means to you?

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You know, back in the nineties, I talked about the

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ninety a lot, of course, because I wrote a book

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about the nineties. It was it was kind of a

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time when I was more on the ball about going

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to see movies. I live with the guy who went

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to film school, so that was part of it. I

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didn't know what. I didn't know what film noir was,

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probably until Paul Fishing came out, and then they had

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somebody kind of school me on that whole thing, even

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you know, pop pop film noir like Two Days in

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the Valley and a bunch of other movies came out

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and then yeah, so I mean beyond that, typically the

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only movies I am great about seeing when they come

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out are James Bond films, and we're gonna see what

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happens there. But one of about a handful of movies

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in the mid to late nineties that I saw in

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the theater because I was interested was Beautiful Girls. And

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I think it must have had to do with the

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I mean, I didn't know that I was going to

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go on to write about music, but I've always had

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been interested in music, So I guess the whole thing

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about to the Hut and playing this piano player who

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lives in New York City kind of going back to

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the place you grew up that spoke to me. And also,

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you know, I grew up in southeastern pennsyl and the suburbs.

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I think a lot of us generation next grew up

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in the suburbs and moved on to Chicago. So that's

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something I do. I go home kind of every once

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in a while and see people in different places and

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some people in the same place as that they were

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with no judgments of course back when I knew them

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to high school. So uh yeah, to see that a

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movie capture all that. Plus I know we'll talk about it.

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Side story. I reminded my wife, like last night, I said,

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Beautiful Girls, I'm doing this thing tomorrow. You've seen this movie.

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She's like, who's in it. I'm like, well, now that

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you're isn't. Yeah, it's kind of like Cannonball Run, but good,

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it's uh, you know, it's It's got Timothy Hutton and

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Laurene Holly, Uma Thurman, Matt Dillon, Michael Rappaport. There's probably

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a couple of others that I'm missing. There's a whole

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lot Mirosorvino, like a couple of boy One oscars and stuff. So, uh,

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I don't know how Ted Demi worked out, if you

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just had great relationships or a great casting age, but

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maybe something about the story spoke to the participants in

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the cast the way that it speaks to me and

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hopefully to you and maybe anybody who hasn't seen it

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who will go see it. Yeah, there's something about it

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for sure.

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Yeah, there's Well, you know, we talk about movies that

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are coming of age stories, you know, something like stand

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by Me? Right?

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Is it?

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Is it fair to say that Beautiful Girls is maybe

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a second coming of age type of movie.

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I talk about kind of coming of age stories and

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reverse coming of age stories. I mean, I book I

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wrote nineties in the nineties about a woman who I

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guess probably in a similar place. Darby's a record store owner. Yeah,

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he's you know, kind of like I think a lot

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of people out in maybe in gen X who are

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sort of encouraged. You know, you can't be a musician,

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you can't be a radio DJ, you can't be a painter.

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You got to go go and get a real job,

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so to speak. And then we kind of all come

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around in some fashion do what we really wanted to

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do or what we meant to do. Maybe it's for

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some that's being vice president of a industra lupa against company,

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and they're happy with that. But for me, you know,

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I kind of kept getting laid off and fired from

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great jobs, and after meeting my sales quota and the

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writing thing just came back. So I think I wrote

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a book that's sort of about that, and then I

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didn't even There's probably lots of movies that have filtered

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into my book and my writing, but I always felt

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like Beautiful Girls was one of those things that is

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one of those movies that just has a lot of

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great scene work, a lot of honest conversations between the

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characters without getting too deep about life, like let's just

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talk about her every day, Let's talk about where we are.

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Let's talk about ice fishing or going to the bar

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with your buddies or grabbing a breakfast. You know, all

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those things are as important as climbing Mount Everest, at

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least to someone as simple as me. I think that

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movie just wrapped it up really well. And maybe it's

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the authenticity in the approach that just made it work.

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And then a great cast probably helps too.

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Yeah, well, so Demy has everyone, you know, the principal cast.

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He has them all move in together. You know, they

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shoot this, and I think they shoot this in Minneapolis.

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He said, I'm living together for two or three weeks,

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just to create those bonds and make it feel a

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little more authentic. I think that was a genius move,

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because you don't see that kind of stuff happening in

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film production in the two thousands, in the in the

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twenty twenties, that does it. That kind of stuff doesn't

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happen anymore.

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But yeah, you hear about saving private Private Ryan and

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all the people wanted to leave until they got the

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pep talk. And then again, I wonder if it's some

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of it like generational thing. Obviously, Demi's a bit older

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than we are, and he probably watched probably watch The

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Big Chill and either loved it and said I want

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to do something like that, or thought, you know, I

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could do a better job of that. There's there's there's

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something missing here about this approach and people locked in

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together being intimate person interpersonally. That could be a little

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more comedy driven, a little bit more substantive. That's my

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read on it. Of course. Of course jen x All

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thinks that The Big Chill kind of sucks and can

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could be tweaked, But that's just me speaking there.

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I like that statement because I feel there's definitely some

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there's some there's some Big Chill DNA in this movie.

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You mentioned seeing this when it came out opening weekend.

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It finished finishes in seventh place two point seven million,

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against the only other new release, which was Broken Arrow.

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Hard to beat Travolta in ninety six, I would think,

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especially after Pulp Fiction. Yeah, you know, and obviously that

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one took the top spot. But Beautiful Girls does end

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its run with twenty seven million worldwide. I think that's

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that's pretty decent for a film like this.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, fairly positive reviews overall, Andy, your fellow Chicagoan Roger

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Ebert wrote quote, what's nice. What's nicest about the film

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is the way it treasures the good feelings people can

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have for one another. He's onto something there because I

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like the dynamic with all these characters, because you can

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see like, hey, you know these this this group of

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people that went to high school together. This guy was

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closer to this guy, but this guy was in the group,

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and you know, you're you're friends with him by extension

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kind of thing. But you could so you could still

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be cool with this guy. You could still be nice

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with this guy. You know. They even have one of

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those moments in the diner when Uh, he's like, he's

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looking at the one guy with why is he here?

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You know.

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There was I remember when the movie came out. I

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had a friend from college named Kelly who lives up

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in Uh. She moved back to upstate New York, where

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she's from, and I remember having this conversation with her.

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I'm gonna have to drop her line after this and

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say that my name dropped her in the episode that

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she had said that she liked. She's like, it reminds

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me like I grew up in a New York, upstate

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New York town. That's kind of like that one, and

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it reminds me of like, I know guys who worked,

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you know, maybe not work for the park district. You know,

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their job is shoveling the snow and doing stuff that

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is important to a northern town in a wintery area,

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and you know all the stuff that has been there.

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She had said, like the old diners still there, and

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the old pub is still there, and uh, maybe this

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is nineties thing. You know, you don't see a Starbucks

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in this movie. You kind of hope if you're going

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to watch a sequel this movie, that you're not going

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to see a strip mall where the Johnson n used

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to be. There's something where. Uh. There are some movies

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that like Old for No Country. Old Man is very

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different from that this movie, but there's in cinema sometimes

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you see that there's a depiction of eighties nineties America

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in some places, not the places aren't that much different

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as than they were in the fifties and sixties, and

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sometimes in good ways and sometimes bad ways. And I

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think this captures that and the people in it without

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denigrating denigrating them or making you feel like these are

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a bunch of people who just couldn't figure out anything

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better to do. Like they actually enjoy their lives and

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have a lot of a ground I have a grounded

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experience and a lot of cool things that's going that

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are going on between them and with their friends. And

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I think that I don't know, somehow I just capture

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all that.

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I agree. It's you know, I mean, he's shooting in Minneapolis,

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but this is a fictional nights Ridge is a fictional

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Massachusetts town. But I feel like I feel like he

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shot on location there, you know. And it's it's the

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little things like Celtics posters on the wall, but it's

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also it's just it's how the guys look, it's how

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the guys act and talk. And I don't know about you,

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but man, this is the This is the perfect movie

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to watch in like December January, because it's nothing but

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ice and snow and the exteriors just it just feels

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like the right time, you know. It's like it's like

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it's like going back home, and we're going back home.

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Because they said in one of the lines of the

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beginning of the movie, they said to said, well what

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did you do for Christmas? He's like, oheah went with

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my girlfriend of Pennsylvania. But then and what I guess,

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I think it's in the Johnson in the bar that

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their friend opens. You see a little bit of a wreath,

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so you kind of think maybe maybe it's the second

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week of January, and like the stuff has not been

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taken on yet, but there's no holiday thing. They go

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to my high school we have I have. My thirtieth

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anniversary was twenty twenty, so we didn't have it, but

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we always have it after Thanksgiving. So I don't know

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what the rest of the world does. But you kind

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of figured, yeah, it's maybe December January when this happens.

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There's still a little bit of festivity in the air,

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a little bit of coziness from the winter. And yeah,

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I just kind of read Northeast. I didn't even know

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it shot in the Twin Cities area, but it definitely

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looks like, you know, New England, western Massachusetts or something

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like that. And then yeah, all the Larry Bird of

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Celtic stuff and all the pictures of I think there's

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a couple. In the first five minutes, I see two

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pictures of John F. Kennedy wanted to dine or want

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at a bar, and then I think Matt Dylan's apartment

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has a huge picture of Nixon, like life sized poster

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like this behind me in the kitchen. You're just like, yeah,

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it hasn't really changed that much there in probably twenty

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thirty years in a lot of small ways.

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Screamer Scott Rosenberg heads home to Needham, Massachusetts, during one

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of his hometown's worst winters. So he's waiting to see

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if Disney is going to produce his script for a

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film called con Air, and he's just tired of writing

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about the same old thing about guns and explosions. He

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gets the idea to write about his friends who are

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struggling with turning thirty and their commitment issues, and the

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result here is beautiful girls. So sometimes you know, writers,

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and you know I'm talking. I'm talking a great writer

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right now, Sometimes writers write what they know. He turned

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his He turned his buddies into movie characters. I love that.

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Didn't we talk about this? Did we talk about Swingers? Yes?

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Is it beautier rules, a less grab, glamorous, less warm? Yeah?

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So Swingers takes place in La and Vegas. Everybody's rinking,

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Martinez are trying to swing dancing. These guys aren't swing dancing.

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They're not drinking Martina drinking and beer, but it's cut

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from the same cloth. Emotionally, I love both these I

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love both swingers and I actually I tell my wife

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last night about swingers. The other night I said singles.

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She's like, are you talking about singles or swingers? I'm like, actually, swingers.

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But why did I say singles? It's the same. Nineties

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are about hanging out. And maybe the generational thing of us,

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whether you're in a small town or La or Seattle,

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that you know, our freedom from I don't know it,

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maybe middle aged, divorced, slightly angry parents a whole generation

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was we just wanted to fucking hang out, man. Part

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of my language. I just wanted to drink coffee at

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Martini and Whiskey's and just not have shit to do

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for you know, an afternoon. And that's part of our

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life experience that we value. And this movie, you know,

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Beautiful Girls, it's a different take on that, but I

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loved it just the same as as you know, swingers, singles,

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pulp fiction, like all the great movies in the nineties,

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they just had some vibe going on.

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That's a thing something all those movies have in common

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a little bit with this movie we're gonna talk about

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We're gonna take a quick break and then I want

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to talk to you about this film's soundtrack. Welcome back,

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Andy Frye is with us. We are talking about beautiful girls. Andy,

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what's your take on this lineup for this soundtrack, because

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we got we got some interesting names showing up and

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some you don't hear in the movie, some you only

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get on the soundtrack. So you know, I'm curious, like,

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are you you know, because you have not one, but

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three of the greatest nineties Spotify playlists based off of

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your novel ninety Days in the Nineties. Anyone, who do

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you see on this soundtrack that's making the cut for

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your Spotify playlist? Because I'm looking at the Afghan Whigs.

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Yeah, you know, and I grew I went to college

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in Southwestern Ohio and they're from Cincinnati, and you know,

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people love the African I'm not really a huge fan

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of the band, but I always think that Greg Dooley.

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I loved his interviews because he always has something interesting

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to say. He's kind of like a more chill Frank

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Zappa in a way like this isn't intelligent to say. So,

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I feel like the Afghan Whigs, they're definitely a nineties

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signature piece and should be on this. But you know,

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it's weird. I just talked to somebody about an hour

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ago who used to be an A and R rap

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at Columbia Records, and I mentioned Beautiful Girls because I

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was doing this thing with you, and she's like, yeah,

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that had a great soundtrack. I don't really remember the

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movie that much, but I had a great soundtrack. I

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was like, Oh, that's interesting that you would say that.

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But yeah, look kind of looking at the what I

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see here the roster, I mean, some of the artists

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that I don't know that well, but obviously you know,

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I grew up in Pennsylvania. I know Ween, I know

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Miss Isaac from the nineties just because he was a fixture.

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Then Afghan Whigs, the Spinners also from Philadelphia. I don't

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know what the Pennsylvania connection between The Spinners and Ween

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are with that, but you know, it's weird. I think

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it feels like it's definitely not forced in any way.

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Like we talked earlier this year about Biodome not a

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great movie, interesting track, we had a different take. You

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thought the lineup was pretty good, and I also kind of,

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I think, converse to your approach, maybe because I didn't

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like the songs as much. I felt like somebody in

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the music supervision part of Biodome was like, Oh, we

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got to have these bands because they're timely out. I

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don't even feel like that they whoever Demi hired or

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brought on to handle this piece of it, didn't try

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to get too fancy with it, didn't, you know. I think, well,

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it's ninet tenety six, we got to have an Alison

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Chain song, or we got to have a tripping Daisy song.

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Like it wasn't wasn't thought through that way. It was

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more like the kind of artists that you would probably

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see in a bar in playing like we did in

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the movie. Like it just you know, some solo artists,

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Billy Paul, Rolling Gift. I don't know much a lot

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about them, but it just seems kind of to fit,

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you know, sort of let your hair down approach to

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a movie soundtrack and not really get too worked up

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about what you're trying to achieve with it. That's just

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my thing.

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It's it's comfortable music, right, Yeah, that's that's how I

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look at it. Yeah, comfort food. Yeah, have you maybe

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one of the more notable names on the soundtrack, Neil Diamond?

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Can we can we talk about the sweet Hairline scene

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for a minute, because sometimes a movie has that that

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montage moment, or they have that scene where everyone's singing

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the song together and it's a feel good moment, or

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you know, like like I'm thinking like Almost Famous where

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it kind of brings the band back together when they're

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seeing a tiny dancer. What interesting thing here is we're

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seeing this sweet caro line scene and this is a

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year before the Boston Red Sox actually adopt it, and

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it becomes like the big thing, right like the Bop

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Bop you know that didn't that didn't that didn't exist

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until Beautiful Girls.

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Yeah, I guess you know, I kind of part of

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me wants to say, well, yeah, Beautiful Girls kind of

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set the tone for this, and maybe that's why, you know,

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of all people, Cameron Crow, who knows music probably better

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than anybody's and fits it to movies better than anybody,

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thought about incorporating tidy Dancer and that sort of sing

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along scene and Almost Famous. But you know Top Gun

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was doing it too. You know, you have people sitting

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around the Mars and Great Paul's a Fire or what

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was wait? I was Great Paul's a Fire, the New

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Top Gun, which was the one that.

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Both Actually, yeah, you had go sand Rooster doing it.

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So I think that's an important you know, it doesn't

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feel like a filler, doesn't feel like it feels like, yeah,

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you're out of a Red Sox game, a Red's game,

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a Cubs game. Maybe you know, before we had stadiums

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doing the dun du you know the I hope Jack

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White is getting paid amply for just this one, for

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what was it seven seven Nation Army. There is for

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especially for an emotional movie like this, there's there's an

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emotional community connection to music that maybe not everybody feels.

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I definitely feel, and I don't know it just part

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of it. It's like an ingredient and field good movies

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that you should have got. Definitely got to pick a

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good song, maybe a classic, something everybody knows, and just

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have a roll out organically. Of course, having a piano

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player is the main character in this movie. It just works.

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So yeah, that you know, makes you want to sing

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along if it doesn't make you want to cry. There's

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just something special about it that seems necessary, and I hope,

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I hope a lot more movies, not not too many,

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but enough good movies continue with that tradition of using

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this sort of stick that they did.

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Let's get into this cast. Principal roles, and look, I

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mean you mentioned them, you mentioned a handful of them,

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and I know we'd probably need a Beautiful Girl's miniseries

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just to do it justice to talk about everyone, but

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principal roles we got. We got Matt Dylan as Tommy,

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Lauren Holly as Darien, Timothy Hutton as Willie, the jazz

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piano player that that heads off to the city to

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make make his fortune, Rosie O'Donnell playing Gina and maybe

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one of the best Rosie o'donnald roles I've seen in

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a in a in a movie. Michael Rappaport is solid

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gold here playing Paul and uh and Natalie Portman yeah wow, Yeah,

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we didn't mention her earlier, but uh what a what

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a breakout role, not not even a breakout role, because

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she you know, she she does the professional.

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But I feel like this is a breakout role though.

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This is a breakout yeah, because this is.

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Her being you know, she She mentioned it one of

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the first one of her first lines in the movie

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that she's an old soul, and you know she played

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she was an intelligent kid in the professional But I

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feel like this is a breakout in that you get

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to feel a little bit more of her being independent

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and just kind of get a glimpse of the way

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that she dominates movies and dominates roles in a good way.

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Like I mean, obviously, some movies that were kind of turds,

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like the episode One Star Wars, didn't really let her

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be who she was supposed to be. But this one,

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I just you just appreciate this little funny, smart ass

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girl who lives next door to him that to be

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the cut ut Willie has a connection with that. If

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you watch it, you know that it's not creepy. It

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could be obviously described as creepy if you're not really

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knowing what's going on in the full description of it.

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But yeah, it's this. I've was there her breakout role,

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because I don't remember. I feel like it was after

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that she got a ton of I'm not a filming story,

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but she got a ton of roles where they knew

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they needed somebody to play an emotionally intelligent character that

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you know, doesn't steal the scene but completes whatever whatever

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project she's put into.

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So, yeah, she's got this and Mars attacks, which we

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you know, we covered on a film by a couple

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of seasons ago. Chicago Film Critics Association Awards nominates Natalie

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Portman for Best Supporting Actress and Most Promising Actress for

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this film. And to your point, what's going on with

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her and Timothy Hutton. I think I can. I can

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understand why people might feel it's it's creepy, because even

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his buddy in the movie, you know, points out that

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it's great. He's he's calling him out for it. He's like, dude,

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this is creepy. You can't be talking like this. But

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I don't know, I feel like there's an innocence to it.

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Yeah that you know, Timothy Hutton's not looking at her

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in a sexual way, and he even mentions that to

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his buddy Mo played by Noah Emrick. He says, I'm

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not talking about that, Like I'm just saying like maybe

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ten years from now, I'm I'm thirty seven and she's,

464
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you know, twenty three, and then it's cool and he's like, dude,

465
00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:14.400
you're do you hear yourself?

466
00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:14.559
Like?

467
00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:17.880
But yeah, I remember Timothy Hutton's characters kind of having

468
00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:22.039
a crisis right as he's coming home. He just doesn't

469
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:23.920
know who he wants to be or what or where

470
00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:25.119
he's gonna go, what he's gonna do.

471
00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:27.920
So well, I see him as that, not so much that,

472
00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:31.480
but as a character who is asking that question because

473
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:34.039
he feels like he's at the stage where he should

474
00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:36.880
ask that question. I don't think he's dissatisfied with his

475
00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:38.559
life as a musician or with this girl that he's

476
00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:43.519
dating that he brings home to his hometown. I think

477
00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:45.480
he's just reflected about it because he knows that when

478
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:47.920
he's visiting his friends that some of them are fine

479
00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:50.200
where they are, some of them obviously aren't and kind

480
00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.000
of never have even addressed that question. I do think

481
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:55.400
this is a good coming of age movie as a

482
00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:58.319
secondary part of life, Like we've all seen the coming

483
00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:01.880
of age movies, whether it's stand by Me or Days Confused,

484
00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:03.440
where people kind of ask what do I want to

485
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:05.000
be when I get when I get out of high school?

486
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.359
This is kind of like I've been there, done that.

487
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:10.440
Am I on track? Or am I not that that's

488
00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:15.359
a serious conversation, that this is very a male centric movie. However,

489
00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:18.400
I think Rosio o'donald brings another side of it where

490
00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:20.559
she's like, we can talk about the whole thing where

491
00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:24.640
she's kind of giving them about being obsessed with beautiful

492
00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:27.799
women and that the fantasy isn't reality. But I feel

493
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:31.839
like Timody Hutton's character does have an honest question on

494
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.079
the table that he's not beating himself up about. But

495
00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:35.759
he was like, yeah, this is a legit question I

496
00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:38.640
need to kind of ask myself because I don't know

497
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:40.440
if everybody else is, but I want to ask myself

498
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:42.599
this question. Am I cool? Or am I? Am? I?

499
00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:45.000
Am I going? Do I need to get a real

500
00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.480
job and stop being a piano player? Or you know,

501
00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:50.480
do I even have to decide right now? I think

502
00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:54.359
that that's the approach, and then this perceptive next door

503
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:57.079
neighbor kind of helps, you know, kind of ask them

504
00:24:57.079 --> 00:24:59.599
some of the same questions that he's been asking himself

505
00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:02.480
inside his had been not vocally, and that opens up

506
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:05.559
the sort of sold the soil of relationship that these

507
00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:06.960
two odd balls have with each other.

508
00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:10.720
I like it. Let's talk about Rose o Donald for

509
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:14.960
a second, that that moment where she's explaining just male

510
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.880
expectation for females in the supermarket and she picks up

511
00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:24.000
the penthouse. Yeah, dude, is she wrong? I mean, I

512
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:24.519
don't know.

513
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:27.599
Well, the thing is that I feel like at the time,

514
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:29.359
in nineteen ninety six, we were sort of on the

515
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.640
cusp of moving from I mean some of the best

516
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:36.319
movies of the eighties, like I'm talking blockbusters that were

517
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.960
very male dominated, you know, Top Gun and a little

518
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:42.680
bit later days of Thunder and some of the Schwarzenegger movies,

519
00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:46.000
and then we had some really terrible misogynistic things like

520
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.319
Porky's and Hard Bodies and stuff that just you know,

521
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:51.480
would not fly that we don't even make today. So

522
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:54.400
in the nineties Worth kind of the cusp of some change,

523
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:58.559
and I feel like it was a role. Strangely, the

524
00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:01.839
dialogue to me feel a lot like a Guy Ritchie

525
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:04.799
movie without without the guns and the cursing, and that

526
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:07.640
it's just this this kind of rant that goes on

527
00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.480
the semantics that she's covered with. You know, you guys

528
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:14.759
think that you're you, you identify beauty, you know what

529
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:18.279
it is. It's uh, I just kind of going verbatim

530
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:21.200
what she said. You know, it's girls with big booze,

531
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:24.079
have big butts, and and it's you know, they don't

532
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:26.559
come like this as they as you're seeing in penthouse.

533
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.119
Get over yourself. If you had any self esteem, you

534
00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:32.000
might realize that, you know, real beauty is out there,

535
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.720
and you're just too weak to go find out what

536
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:35.559
it is because you're scared. And you guys need to

537
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:39.799
grow up. Have a nice day. She's shopping for things

538
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:41.680
in the drug store and saying hi to the you know,

539
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.839
pharmacist behind the counter that it's just she's like a

540
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:49.160
little tornado, well tas many a devil of wisdom coming uh.

541
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.359
And it's it's it's funny from their perspective too. But

542
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.079
that doesn't make her wrong either.

543
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:53.880
It doesn't.

544
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:54.240
Uh.

545
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.359
Let's talk about their perspective. Michael Rappaport gives one of

546
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:02.599
the best monologues in the nineties, Like when he's talking

547
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.720
about what beautiful girls are, and it's not that they're

548
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:08.839
beautiful girls. He's talking about hope. He's talking about what

549
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.799
they signify. Let me, let me, let me. Let's let's

550
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:12.960
just listen to this for a quick second.

551
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.440
The supermodels a beautiful girls will A beautiful girl can

552
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.000
make you dizzy like you've been drinking jack and coke

553
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:19.640
all morning.

554
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:21.519
She can make you feel high.

555
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:25.240
Full of single greatest commodity known to man, promise, the

556
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:28.440
promise of a better day, promise of a greater hope,

557
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:33.720
promise of a new tomorrow. This particular ore can be

558
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.519
found in the gait of a beautiful girl in a smile,

559
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.119
and in her soul, and the way she makes every

560
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.640
rotten little thing about life seem like it's gonna be okay.

561
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:48.559
The supermodels willie that's only our bottle promise. Scenes from

562
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.119
a Brand New Day Hope dancing in stiletto heels. A

563
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.000
beautiful girl is all powerful and that is as good

564
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:55.440
as love.

565
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.480
What starts off as creepy because he's got he's got

566
00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:03.559
like everything from Sports Illustrated to Playboy, like just plastered

567
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.000
all over the walls like he's thirteen, starts off creepy,

568
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.880
but then he has this little dea tribe where you're like,

569
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.039
you know what he's He's got a point, just the

570
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.079
way Rosy o'donald has a point on expectations. He has

571
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.160
a point to what he's saying, Like what they represent.

572
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:20.839
Yeah. So when I moved into my freshman dor my

573
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.720
freshman year of college, I came late in my room,

574
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.160
it was already in his side of the room was

575
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:30.160
covered with pictures and posters of al McPherson. I'm not

576
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:30.880
making this up.

577
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:31.920
Oh my wow.

578
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.319
Yeah. So I kind of knew who she was at

579
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.559
the time. This is nineteen ninety and I was, you know,

580
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:39.440
grew up in the East Coast, and I was saying,

581
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:41.000
to know who famous? You know, this is kind of

582
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.000
the beginning of the super model era and also sort

583
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:47.480
of the second or third year of the Sports Illustrated

584
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:50.920
Swimsuit issue with people like you know, Kathy Ireland and

585
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.799
el McPherson. I remember thinking like, oh, do I need

586
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.759
to put pictures of another model on my wall or

587
00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:59.519
I mean I was putting up pictures of the Berlin

588
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.799
Wall falling and the Eiffel Tower, and I was kind

589
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.400
of obsessed with the one trip I had the Europe

590
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:08.000
and just kind of I was like, I'm a Cold

591
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:09.920
War geek. So I was fascinated by the fact that

592
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:12.960
the in late nineteen ninety and early ninety one, that

593
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:16.279
the Soviet Union was collapsing, and you know, Reagan's dream

594
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:18.799
had come alive, and like, you know, chicks and bikinis

595
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.480
on the walls, just like that wasn't really wasn't against it,

596
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:22.759
but I was just like, wow, I had never really

597
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.720
thought that I would cover my wall that way. So

598
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.480
I've kind of lived with that person. And as far

599
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.119
as the monologue goes, yeah, Michael Rappaport is just he

600
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.119
plays the character that he plays in a lot of movies,

601
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:39.319
kind of a boatonheaded guy limited intelligence. Definitely needs to

602
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.200
grow up, but I think the way that he frames

603
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:43.119
it has bottled up hope. I mean, yeah, he's a

604
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.480
guy who hasn't really moved towards hope. He hasn't really

605
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.640
moved to what he aspires to in life. He's sort

606
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.039
of happy with drinking beer and looking at pretty women

607
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.079
in magazines and whatnot. But he gets it right, at

608
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:58.880
least as far as the sentiment and maybe the metaphysical

609
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:03.480
representation of what but beauty is to him. Uh, he

610
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:05.720
doesn't bungle that part of it. But you know, we

611
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.200
can we can sort of interpret the delivery method a

612
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.119
little bit different based on where we are now.

613
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.119
I suppose speaking of delivery method that you know him

614
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.480
and Martha Plumpton, just take the fucking ring like this.

615
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.799
He's got some work to do on uh on, you know,

616
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:23.319
having a softer touch.

617
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:25.359
I think I was watching that scene, I was thinking

618
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:26.880
about you because I was thinking, like, I grew up

619
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.240
in the East Coast, and I get it less now

620
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.200
that I've lived in Chicago for thirty years, but I

621
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.119
do get people to be like, you know, you you

622
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:36.960
talk to you say things differently, You're a little bit

623
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:38.319
more like I get accused of being a little bit

624
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:42.079
more easily riled up. And uh, you know, the East

625
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.359
Coast people talk to each other in a different format

626
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:47.359
than people in the Midwest and the Great Plains. It's

627
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.559
just something that I know that I've noticed, and I

628
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:51.519
remember seeing that scene like yeah, that I could see

629
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:54.160
that happening on in any day in a diner anywhere,

630
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.680
and you know anywhere from like New England down to

631
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.160
Maryland that people were once proposing the other and there

632
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:02.240
yelling at each other. That was like, yeah, it's to

633
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.160
capture the East Coast, I suppose.

634
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.200
Yeah, a little more direct with with what you what

635
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:09.880
you say. You know, again, this cast is huge. I

636
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.880
don't know how you get this many names in one

637
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:16.720
small little movie like this, but uh, you got Martha Plimpton,

638
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.400
David Arquette, who's playing Hilton, his little brother, kind of

639
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:22.640
kind of half checked out. He's having a good year.

640
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:24.839
He's you know, he's got Scream, he's got guest spot

641
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.680
on Friends, he's about his stars on the rise, Mira

642
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:33.759
Servino and then Uma Thurman coming in White Hot, right,

643
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.400
small role. Small doesn't have a lot to not to do,

644
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.519
but it's almost like she's there just to either tempt

645
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.000
the guys or entice them or or teach them something

646
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.519
about themselves. And then she's gone, Yeah.

647
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:47.960
It's kind of that hope that they're talking about. I mean,

648
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.480
you have the big city girl who's intelligent and brave

649
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:52.519
and she's not gonna get pushed around way in these guys.

650
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.359
She's not intimidated, you know. They they talk about doing

651
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.039
Mellon ball shots, She's like, no, we're gonna do the

652
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.839
shots at whiskey. Yeah, you know, that's that's kind of

653
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.119
kind of character wise, this kind of woman that puts

654
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.240
you on your best behavior, makes you step up your game.

655
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.680
And of course they well, so she walks in as

656
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.920
the cousin of the bar owner, like they sit up

657
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:13.680
straight her and they're like, oh wow, okay, well we

658
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.839
need to make an appearance here. But yeah, she's kind

659
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.519
of like that presented as an archetype of sort of

660
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.359
the ideal women, but she's probably more down to earth

661
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:26.759
than they are. Throughout this whole movie. Is that character.

662
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:29.200
I can't remember how to say her name? What was it?

663
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:29.839
What was her name?

664
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:37.319
Uh? Adira, Adira? Yeah, Adira or Aderra. I'm trying to remember

665
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.839
because like you only hear it once or twice. But yeah,

666
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.759
and Deira, I think is what it is. He's she's

667
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:47.559
the attractive cousin from from Chicago, you know. Uh, I

668
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:51.279
love love that the rappaports. Paul's like, oh, what part

669
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:52.960
of Chicago you from? And she's like, oh, you know,

670
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.680
Chicago's like a and a soldier field. She's like, that's

671
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:00.279
that's a it's a football field. She puts some she

672
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.720
puts them on, she puts them in check. I like that.

673
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:06.319
Yeah, there's She's not gonna be someone who's gonna be

674
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:07.960
buttered up up by a couple of quick lines. And

675
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:12.000
then later in the in the uh ice fishing hut

676
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.319
scene with she's having it like a real conversation with

677
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.319
Timothy Hutton, who's equally as an intelligent and culture as

678
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:20.160
she is, but he's still trying to seduce her. She's like,

679
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.440
you know, I'm happy her. My life is Sunday mornings

680
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.440
with the paper and coffee and you know, my boyfriend.

681
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:32.640
And yeah, I'm kind of embarrassed for Timothy Hutton because

682
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:35.759
he's got the cool playing the piano at the bar

683
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.119
alone vibe happening, and he makes a pass setter.

684
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:40.640
She shoots it down.

685
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:44.880
Yeah, you know, he like he shoots it. She's he's

686
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.559
shut down. Twice they go they go ice fishing, and

687
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:48.839
then he's like, get right in the middle of this

688
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.319
nice conversation. He still goes one more time, and she's like, no,

689
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.920
I'll take Sundays reading the paper and hanging out with

690
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.799
my Boyfriend's like, dude, that's yeah, let it go. You

691
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:04.119
know yeah one uh, one guy. We didn't really talk about.

692
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:06.279
We'll do, you know, can't we always like to do

693
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:11.239
cameos or before they were famous. Noah Emrick not exactly

694
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:14.280
an extra obviously because he's he's playing Moe, but we

695
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.960
only saw him in a handful of TV shows before

696
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:22.320
this movie, and he gets one movie credit before Beautiful Girls,

697
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.360
and I'm happy to say Andy, he was billed as

698
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.800
the rookie and last action hero a film you joined

699
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:30.199
us for your first time on a film buy.

700
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.239
So yeah, and I don't remember him much from that,

701
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:35.840
you know, so a completely aside. There's a show that

702
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.199
I've watched a couple of times, a series again because

703
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:42.000
I love Cold War stuff. The Spy, which is a

704
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.960
series with Sasha Baron Cohen where he plays it actually

705
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.320
based on a true story where he plays an Israeli

706
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.360
Massad agent that infiltrates Sirius government and then his Boston

707
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.199
handler is Noah Emeric, who's you know, like the most serious.

708
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:56.719
Everybody is serious. Everybody in the Massade, I would guess

709
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:02.880
is serious. It's probably part of being clandestinops for Israel

710
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:05.599
in the sixties. But no Emeric is the one who

711
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:07.840
I think is basically his handler and kind of is

712
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:11.760
his chief and just does a great job. You know.

713
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.840
Every time I watched that, I'm thinking he was he

714
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.119
was kind of like the grounded guy, the elder statesman

715
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:21.639
among their friends and Beautiful Girls. I don't know, there's

716
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.679
he's like a regular guy, but there's something some sort

717
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:25.840
of gravitos that he has as an actor that I

718
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.079
kind of wish I'd seen him in more stuff, because

719
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:31.880
I think he's a bit underrated overall, and also in

720
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.039
this movie definitely underrated.

721
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.800
I like that he is like the I think you're

722
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:41.480
on a something there, because you know, first off, I

723
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:43.840
would love to see him and more. He's always playing

724
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.360
these small roles, Like I think the last time I

725
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.719
saw him where I'm remember seeing him was probably like

726
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.360
a twenty twelve's Warrior where he just plays the bank

727
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.800
manager talking to Joel Edgard. Now he was upside down

728
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.440
on his mortgage. But I love what he's doing here

729
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.159
because he's he's the button down own guy in the group.

730
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.679
He's got the wife, the kids, he's the plant manager

731
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.440
at the at the mill or whatever, and he's he's happy,

732
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:11.519
go lucky until we see Matt Dylan get his ass

733
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.719
handed to him. You know, he gets jumped and then

734
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.320
he flips a switch and he's you know what, what's uh?

735
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.119
What's Paul calling? He's like, well, all of a sudden,

736
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.360
Charles Bronson like he so great guy.

737
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:22.599
Love.

738
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:24.000
I love this guy in this movie.

739
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.519
Yeah, we probably all of us have some guy like

740
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:29.440
that in our friend group, who you know is not

741
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:31.760
brings it out when he needs to and is very

742
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.239
protective of his friends. And you also kind of feel

743
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:39.960
like maybe Willie's return to uh what is it called

744
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:45.480
Knight's Night Night Ridge, Knight's Ridge kind of exposes kind

745
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.039
of exposes that these guys are. Again I'm not trying

746
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:50.920
to I'm not judging like people who stay in their

747
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.440
hometown and do what they do for you know, it's

748
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:55.639
like that in these particular characters, they all kind of

749
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.280
need a bigger brother and maybe a mom, and you

750
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.519
kind of get the sense that probably of them still

751
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.559
live at home or live maybe in the parents that

752
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:06.840
the house that their parents owned, particularly Plympton and the

753
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:11.360
exception being Matt Dylan's character, who you know, has Michael

754
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.639
Rappaport staying like living with him.

755
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.159
Yeah, he's like the roommate or whatever.

756
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:18.000
He has a roommate, you know. There they should be

757
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:19.760
kind of moved on from that point, but they all

758
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:21.719
kind of need a big brother, someone to kind of

759
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.280
not keep them in line but look over them. And

760
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:27.880
that's what no Emrich's character, you know, Moe is like

761
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.800
he's whether he he intends to be or not. He's

762
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:33.639
sort of the the big brother to them all.

763
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.280
Yeah, he's he's trying to defend Matt Dillon, but he's

764
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.400
also trying to talk sense to Timothy Hutton. You know

765
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:42.800
when it comes to the thirteen year old girl next door.

766
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:46.320
And I don't know this movie. I just I watched

767
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.320
these characters interacting and it just feels so authentic. I

768
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.039
feel like I know these characters. I grew up with

769
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:52.760
these characters. I went to school with these characters. That's

770
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.719
that's what makes Beautiful Girls such an amazing film. I think, yeah, definitely,

771
00:37:57.440 --> 00:37:59.239
let's take one more break and then there'll be time

772
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:06.679
for keeping it all right, we are back. We have

773
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.880
asked these questions before, Andy, you have always given some

774
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.400
amazing answers. We're gonna start with a favorite and uh,

775
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.199
I'm gonna I'm gonna say this one. Let's let's say

776
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.559
this one sponsored by by Zob's Hot Sauce. So uh

777
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:20.119
I was.

778
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:21.480
Gonna say, I was gonna say, maybe you need to

779
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:25.039
check check in with them, because uh, I've known people

780
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:28.800
from like podcasters to like roller derby skaters who have

781
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.679
gotten a little sponsorship just by like reaching out to

782
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:33.360
coup yeah. I always think you always get what you

783
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:34.800
asked for in life. You might want to reach out

784
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.519
to them and uh.

785
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.760
Well, after after after this amazing gift that might have don't.

786
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:41.679
Like everybody what went on here, because I'm I need

787
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:43.599
to know a hot sauce fan like I am. But

788
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.920
I just I figured i'd hit you up one day

789
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.920
and then yeah, you can tell the audience about the ear.

790
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:51.599
Yeah, I got. I got to clue them, man. So

791
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.599
you know, first question I'm keeping it real is always

792
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.480
about Billy Zaka, right. You know, we we talk about

793
00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.079
how he was, uh you know, it's one of our

794
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:02.159
favorite actors domin the dojo's high school cafeterias and college

795
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:05.159
swimming pools in the eighties, but he was notably absent

796
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.400
from Hollywood for most of the nineties. So the question

797
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:12.480
is what about Zob? And you had the wonderful gift

798
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:14.800
for me. You sent me a bottle of Zob's hot

799
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.079
sauce because I've asked you what about Zob so many

800
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:20.400
times talking about William Zaka lo and behold, you know

801
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.119
I'm a hot sauce guy. You're a hot sauce guy,

802
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.760
and you gave me this amazing hot sauce from and

803
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.840
it's it's Zob's Hot Sauce. I gotta tell you listeners. Yeah,

804
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:29.920
if you can, if you can get your hands on

805
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:33.159
a bottle of this, you will be You'll be very happy.

806
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:34.760
Put it. Put it on your chicken, put it on

807
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:36.679
your steak. Put I put it on my scrambled eggs.

808
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:38.800
I put it on everything. Man, it's it's delicious. And

809
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:40.719
I have Andy, I have Andy Friday think for that.

810
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.360
But yeah, so my friend, I've got a friend from

811
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.440
college who worked at the bagel shop at Miami University

812
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:49.679
when we went to school. He owns the Chicago Bagel

813
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.119
Authority here in Chicago, which is like just an awesome

814
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.000
place to eat great bagels. And then he had it. Yeah,

815
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:58.400
he started adding some hot sauce. I call it Zabs

816
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.199
because you know the East Coast. I yeah, so z

817
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.880
a b. There's two versions of it. I was like, well,

818
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.039
I'm always gonna try a hot, new hot sauce. And

819
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.960
there's there's been ones I've tried where that like they're

820
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:10.760
not good and I give them away or something. But

821
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:15.159
this is seem legit, no sugar added, you know, it's

822
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.840
just like a straight up hot sauce and uh, I

823
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.559
don't know. So I saw it and I was like, okay,

824
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:22.880
I'm gonna get some of this. And then I must

825
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.360
have been right after I talked to you. I was like, yeah,

826
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:25.960
this is you know, zab zabka. I don't know if

827
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.639
there's I'm gonna send up. Of course, I asked you, like,

828
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.599
because there's some people I know who can't do hot anything.

829
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:33.760
So I asked you that. They're like, yeah, I love

830
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:35.400
hot sauce. Like, well, I'm gonna send you this thing

831
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:39.519
and check it out. So yeah, I gotta go. I'm

832
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.400
halfway through my uh the other bottle I have. I

833
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:45.280
gotta get some more but nice dry flavor. And you know,

834
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.360
I make a a non a meatless chili that can

835
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:52.519
rock any meat chili that you've ever had in your life.

836
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:56.079
I'm that cocky about it. Okay, So the rest of

837
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:58.199
my family doesn't like stuff as hot as I do.

838
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.280
But of course when when we get it out, first

839
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:03.719
thing that goes in is the hot sauce. So it's

840
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:05.800
a great, great addition. I like the mouth to burn

841
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.920
a little bit. And I hope to see Billy's appet

842
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:10.800
doing a commercial for them. Someday or maybe them.

843
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:16.639
Sponsor Yeah, I'll take either. But my question to you Andy,

844
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.840
what about zab so replace one actor from this film

845
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.239
with William Zapka. Who who you going with?

846
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:26.400
I don't you know, it's kind of hard to say,

847
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:31.599
because all these characters really I think really stood out.

848
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:37.079
But you know there's one of the employees that that uh,

849
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.320
the guy with a hat who's sitting in the truck.

850
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.920
What's Max Perli, please, Kevin? That's it? Yeah, kind of

851
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.000
a minor character. I mean, he's a short guy. They

852
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:48.119
kind of kind of kind of present him as like

853
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:49.960
a kind of a short, nerdy guy. The guy who's

854
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:53.400
kind of more has some some some quiet wisdom. But

855
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.159
he's not really a dominant character. I don't really know

856
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:57.679
why that is. And I kind of feel like if

857
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.000
you had, maybe I don't want to take Max Perl

858
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:01.519
look at it, because he does do a lot of

859
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:03.360
He does a lot of really cool minor roles, like

860
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:07.800
he was in uh, what was the movie about Cocaine

861
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:08.559
with Johnny Depp?

862
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:09.679
Blow?

863
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:12.960
Yeah, I was gonna say snow, No, it's Blow. He's

864
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.440
been I think he was in I think he might

865
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:20.599
have been in in uh. Uh another movie with Matt

866
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.599
Dillon about drugs. So anyway, he's been in a lot

867
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:23.880
of good movies, good drug.

868
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.719
Store, Cowboy, Yeah drug he was, Yeah, that's what that's

869
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:27.199
what he was in.

870
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:32.280
I was thinking of, uh, the writer h William Burrows,

871
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:33.760
I was thinking junkie, but I know it was in

872
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:35.719
the basically junk of the movie. Is is kind of

873
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:39.000
what it was. Yeah, I think maybe a stronger character

874
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:42.199
sitting in you know, I mean, yeah, you got you

875
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:44.840
got a kind of a a jerk that you don't

876
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:48.000
really take seriously as a person in Michael Rappaport. Maybe

877
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:51.039
any kind of a you know, the cocky Bill Zabka

878
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:55.760
that you have in uh Cobra Kai or back to

879
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:59.239
school kind of talking some sense to Matt Dillon. Like

880
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:02.280
obviously he was presented as the he was the stud

881
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:05.119
in high school of the dominant guy. But if he's

882
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:06.800
twenty eight and he's, you know, just kind of hanging

883
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.360
around town and doing what he's doing in this movie,

884
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:11.800
he's obviously not the alpha male that he thought he

885
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:14.840
was or used to be. Maybe he could knock some

886
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:18.280
sense into him. Or I wouldn't be surprised if we

887
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:22.840
bump into his dad you know, we bump into the

888
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:24.960
Birdman's dad saying, what are you doing? You're just still

889
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:26.679
doing this thing. I can't believe you're you're hooking up

890
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:30.480
with his girls in your high school girlfriend or is

891
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.239
his bigger brother or his cousin, or somebody kind of

892
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.599
talks some sense into him, which will we either see

893
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:39.119
Bill Zabka being kind of a jerk and you know,

894
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:42.920
threatening someone like Daniel LaRusso and Karate Kid, or in

895
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.599
a strange way, kind of talking some sense into people

896
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:47.960
like he did in Cobra Kai once you kind of

897
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:49.880
get to know him. So that's the only thing I

898
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:53.519
could think of. Or maybe you want him to be

899
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:57.800
a Darien Small's jerk husband who you know, with the

900
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.280
help of three other guys. He needed three other guy

901
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:03.320
crap out of Matt Dillon because he couldn't do it

902
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:05.719
on his own. He might be perfect for that role

903
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.320
and more of a familiar face that who's nose you

904
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:09.679
want to break, you know, I mean you kind of

905
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:11.239
want to break his nose back in the eighties when

906
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:13.960
he was playing all those characters. Uh, he'd a perfect

907
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:15.880
perfect fit for Darien Small's husband.

908
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.559
I got him, I got him for Darien Small's husband,

909
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:20.880
because we don't really see this guy till the third act,

910
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:26.360
and I think, Zopka, he's he's gonna he's gonna take

911
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.280
away like you mentioned, like all these guys, it's a

912
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.599
it's a pretty good ensemble. Everyone's got their shining moment. I

913
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.519
feel like maybe Zobga we need him in a in

914
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:38.760
a smaller role and him showing up at the bar

915
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:44.159
uh to uh to confront Matt Dillon. I'm all, I'm

916
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.119
all for I'm all for him playing the husband.

917
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:47.880
So yeah, that does sound kind of a more of

918
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.400
a natural natural fit just based on where he's been.

919
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:53.079
But damn yeah, why not?

920
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:57.519
All right, let's do a sequel, prequel remake? Andy, if

921
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.679
you had your hands on this ip, what would you do?

922
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:02.639
What would your pitch be to the studio to bring

923
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:04.760
it back? Which woe? Which way? Which way you're gonna go?

924
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:07.719
I think you gotta have a you gotta have a sequel,

925
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.679
but it's got to be a different flavor. So maybe

926
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:15.960
you know, taking your idea from swingers. Uh, he's either

927
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.840
a widow or widower. So what happens? Okay, so maybe

928
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:23.199
we have Willie comes back. He's deciding to move from

929
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.679
New York City after a successful career, maybe a couple

930
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.079
of albums as a jazz performer. I think he's more

931
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.840
of a blues piano player anyway. But he moves back

932
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.480
to H. Knight's Ridge with his wife and kids, ready

933
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.199
to settle down, and he sees that his friends are

934
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:42.400
still there and still in a little bit disarray. So, uh,

935
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.559
what happens. Maybe you know, Sharon and uh Tommy the

936
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:50.920
Birdman got married, but uh, Tommy's no longer with us,

937
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.320
and we've got a you know, maybe it's called beautiful men,

938
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:57.519
and it's it's a little bit about not making this,

939
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:02.400
you know, breat eighty for but that maybe the women

940
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:05.079
take a little bit more a dominant role as reflective

941
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.280
on what they appreciated about the men's in their life.

942
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:12.000
But now some of them are gone, and you know,

943
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.440
they're either looking for some wisdom from Willy or Willy's wife,

944
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:17.960
or he's just trying to be a good friend guide

945
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:20.199
and through kind of that's that maybe that third stage

946
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.719
stage of life different than I like.

947
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:25.639
I like what you got there with the little bit

948
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:29.159
of a role reversal they're happening with the genders. I'm

949
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:30.920
into that. I didn't see that. I didn't think about

950
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.280
that one. Let me let me tell you, let me

951
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:38.079
pitch something to you, because I'm going seql I'm with you. You know,

952
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:39.639
this one was all about him coming.

953
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:41.840
Home maybe before I forget it. Hopefully you're gonna say this,

954
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.079
Natalie Portman is going to have a bigger role, and

955
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:46.719
that's where this is steered.

956
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:49.199
I'm happy to tell you. I'm happy to tell you

957
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:51.360
that she does. I'm gonna give you a sequel. I

958
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.880
want to bring all the characters back for what possibly

959
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:57.000
their fortieth high school reunion, because this is their tenth

960
00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:00.760
and Beautiful Girls. Maybe Nallie Portman is now the high

961
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.639
school principal. Hutton Hutton is also back in town. Just

962
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:06.719
happens to be his his father's funeral.

963
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.800
He uh, brother's got some money. That was pretty old though.

964
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:12.719
Okay, yeah, that was pretty old. Okay, I tell you

965
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.840
what we'll do brother's funeral. You know, let's juxtapose the

966
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:18.199
movie a little bit. How about he's got a little

967
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:20.199
bit of money because maybe he did a couple albums

968
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:25.199
at Starbucks. Uh, you know, wildly popular at Starbucks. You

969
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.280
know he you know, the lawyer Annabeth Gish, you know,

970
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:32.000
she left him and maybe uh, you know, let's catch

971
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.199
up with this group dealing with the with retirement looking

972
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.960
at them and the road's not taking him. Maybe maybe

973
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.440
there is something between him and Nolly Portman, an adult

974
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.199
Nolly Portman who would be like forty years old at

975
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.800
this point. So yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna call

976
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:46.679
it though, you know, you can't call it Beautiful girls too.

977
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:48.679
I I you know, something to me like I wanted

978
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:50.800
to say, let's let's call this Crossroads, but then you

979
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:53.800
got the you know, we're talking about Zabka, We got

980
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:56.159
you know, Machio's got the Crossroads movie from nineteen eighty six,

981
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.679
you know, totally different movie, but the the you know,

982
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:02.280
blues guitarists. But I don't know that's that's my pitch anyways.

983
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.679
Yeah, I kind of see maybe Timothy Hutton it comes back,

984
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:10.199
maybe Star Starbucks album, or maybe he's uh yeah. I

985
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.599
kept thinking of the line, the kind of long line

986
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.320
of guitarists who kept playing for David Bowie. You had

987
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.280
Stevie rayvaugh On, you had Page Hamilton from Helmet Goes

988
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.960
from like this hardcore punk band to play like we're

989
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.519
seeing on Saturday and live playing with David Bowie. Maybe

990
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.039
he gets a gig like that, Maybe he's uh, maybe

991
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.239
a Willie's, Tina Turner's last piano player, or tours with

992
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.079
Diana Crawl, or who knows what it is. I like it.

993
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:35.239
Everybody's in a little different place in their life. And

994
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.920
who knows, maybe Darien Spalls isn't such a jerk anymore

995
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:42.960
and she's I don't know, but I like yeah, I

996
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.239
like that you are thinking about kind of different places

997
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:49.840
where people can be in life. Because with the current

998
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:52.400
movie as it is, we sort of think Willy's always

999
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:56.199
going to go back to the city. Natalie Portman's character Marty,

1000
00:48:56.840 --> 00:48:59.840
you know, she's obviously destined for for Harvard and so

1001
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.639
big career, but maybe, you know, maybe she just eventually,

1002
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:05.280
like a lot of sees the value in the small town,

1003
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:09.639
wants to come back to it and that it creates

1004
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:13.119
a whole different set of relationships and that explores a

1005
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.360
different dynamic of people in this town at a different

1006
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:17.159
place in their life.

1007
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.519
Yeah, DVD extras. In nineteen ninety six, the DVD format

1008
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:26.800
was introduced to US markets. Compact displeased US. You know,

1009
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:30.199
high definition wowedest we were tossing on our VHS tapes.

1010
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:34.599
Cinephiles like us, Andy though we needed those exclusive special

1011
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.480
features and we were just getting scene selection or you know,

1012
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:41.599
Spanish subtitles. So my question to you what DVD extra

1013
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.760
which you have wanted on your DVD for this film?

1014
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:49.559
You can have an end character audio commentary, a making

1015
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:54.000
of documentary, or what we have renamed the Amber Lewis

1016
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.280
Actors Roundtable. You can have any I'll give you any

1017
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:58.199
actors you want. You can have like a little roundtable

1018
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.920
conversation with them. Which which one you gotta go with?

1019
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:06.760
Well, I feel like the in character DVD extras you

1020
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:10.320
know again, I always go back to the Hangover and

1021
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:12.559
when you find out that mister Chow is the real

1022
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:16.880
person and that Ken Jones the actor he appeased Hollywood

1023
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:19.760
because Mitt the real mister Chow's too dangerous, something like that,

1024
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.639
Like I could either see it. Rosie O'donnald's character has

1025
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.320
a podcast now, as you know, Gina, Gina and Sharon

1026
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.519
have you know, like a call her Daddy type podcast

1027
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:33.639
for gen X women in their fifties and sixties who

1028
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:37.079
are talking about relationships, are starting a new or you have.

1029
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:38.960
I guess the low hanging fruit would be to have

1030
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:43.280
you know, Timothy hunt Is, Willie you know, we always

1031
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.199
see this if you turn it, tune into the right

1032
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.360
time on PBS, usually on a Sunday night, you're gonna

1033
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.559
see Tom Waits on the stage with Jackson Brown and

1034
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.800
Bruce Springsteen, and Willie Nelson's probably gonna be there, and

1035
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.679
Bella Fleck and all the kind of folky musicians that

1036
00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:58.880
are up there that have been around forever. And then

1037
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:01.000
Willie's gonna be right in the middle playing piano, you know,

1038
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:06.360
with with I love It. I don't know other famous

1039
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.480
musicians could be kind of a thing on Austin's City limits.

1040
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.840
There you go, Yeah, perfect, I'll take I'll take the roundtable,

1041
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.519
but I want to do Ladies edition, so you know,

1042
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:20.840
sit Nally Portman, Mirror, Sabina Rosio, Donal, Lauren hollydown talking

1043
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:22.960
about the making the movie and you know how it's aged,

1044
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.599
and I think that'd be an interesting one to watch,

1045
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:30.400
speaking speaking speaking of how it's aged, uh Andy, is

1046
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:34.679
this film a classic, a cult classic or a product

1047
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:35.239
of its time?

1048
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:38.440
Well, so you told me how much money it made.

1049
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:41.400
It didn't do too bad let's see it. So you

1050
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:45.360
said twenty seven million. I don't see what the budget was,

1051
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.079
but I mean probably is a little bit more. Well,

1052
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:51.079
I mean it's Mira Max. I guess Mirror Max can

1053
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:53.559
make some cult classics. It feels like a cult classic,

1054
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:56.159
but with that big cast, dude, Like, you can't really

1055
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:57.840
say it's a cult classic because I mean it was

1056
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.400
it wasn't a cult classic. So you have a similar cast,

1057
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.440
similar caliber in Days Confused, when nobody knew who the

1058
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:11.079
hell had met Ben Affleck was or matthe McConaughey. I mean,

1059
00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:13.920
the biggest star was Mila Jovitch because she had been

1060
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.320
in a couple of you know, ads as a supermodel

1061
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:19.079
at the time. So I feel like it's more of

1062
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:21.719
a it's a product of its time, but it's in

1063
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.199
a good way. And I keep going back to movies

1064
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:27.719
in the nineties that whether it's a movie that happens

1065
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.000
over the span of a day like Friday Pulp Fiction

1066
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:33.320
or Days Confused, or it's one of these movies like

1067
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:35.119
The Beautiful Girls where you're hanging out with them for

1068
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.039
a couple of weeks, Like this movie is basically a hangout.

1069
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:41.000
You're hanging out with the characters not I mean, I

1070
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:44.280
don't study film theory or anything, but I don't feel

1071
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.239
like there's been much attention to the fact that that

1072
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:51.000
is a huge part of nineties film. That is, it works,

1073
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:55.320
it's successful, it works in the box office, it works historically,

1074
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.199
and in terms of film appreciation, that hanging out with

1075
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:03.119
your friends in movie and that's the plot works, and

1076
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:05.440
this is another example of it. And that's the product

1077
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:07.519
of the time. I don't think you can I've seen

1078
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:11.760
it kind of faked recently in the two twenty twenties here,

1079
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:15.039
and I think the Big Chill kind of leaned towards

1080
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:17.519
it but didn't really pull it off in eighty six

1081
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:19.519
or whenever it came out. I feel like that's the

1082
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:21.800
nineties thing that was just it was just it's like,

1083
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:25.519
it's like a variety of wines that was mastered in

1084
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.599
the nineties, but in film, not in wine. So that's

1085
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:32.239
my big, h you know, nineties biased selling point there.

1086
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:34.440
I just feel like it did that. This movie, Beautiful

1087
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.519
Girls did that again, and I'm so glad that it

1088
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.559
was important to do that to the director and the

1089
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:40.400
cast members.

1090
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.119
Yeah, it is. It is by no means a discredited

1091
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:46.480
film to say it is in fact the product of

1092
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.679
its time, even with some of the stuff we're seeing

1093
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:54.280
in the movie. You know, Elle Macpherson being noteworthy, you

1094
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:57.119
know that. You know Penthouse magazine, you know Actual and

1095
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:00.280
Actual magazine. You know Bar and Grills having apps, you know,

1096
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.639
like Stinky's like, hey, I got apps. We got apps.

1097
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:06.400
Now it's you know, this movie has got a nineties

1098
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:08.960
time stamp on it and and it's a good one.

1099
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.199
You know, you talked about the small town and you

1100
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:13.480
know we've kind of we've kind of talked about that

1101
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.960
several times about this this episode. You know, some people

1102
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:20.119
love small towns, some people are in love with small towns,

1103
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:22.960
and I you know, either way, it's it's not a

1104
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:27.360
bad thing. And Beautiful Girls, it just it captures everything

1105
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:29.320
that we've been talking about. It's a great film, it

1106
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:29.800
really is.

1107
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.000
Yeah, it's one of my favorites. Why I brought it

1108
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.079
up and he said, nineteen eighty six. I'm not great

1109
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.159
with numbers and years, but it's yeah, I think Beautiful Girls.

1110
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:39.760
Wasn't that a nineteen eighty six film? Can I do that? Yeah?

1111
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:40.760
So thanks letting me do.

1112
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:44.079
It, absolutely, man, and thank you for being a huge

1113
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:47.679
part of this series covering these films. You definitely made

1114
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:50.599
it fun, informative and memorable, and I can't thank you

1115
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:51.079
enough for that.

1116
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:52.800
Yeah, appreciate it.

1117
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:57.079
Before we go any new developments, I know, last time

1118
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:58.559
you were with us, we got to talk a little

1119
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.920
bit about ninety days in the nineties and some potential

1120
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:04.400
things happening. Anything you can share with it right now

1121
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:05.519
that we're allowed to hear.

1122
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.480
I'm hearing that the script is being written or finished.

1123
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:08.679
You know.

1124
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:13.599
I kind of let the screenwriter director handle that. Don't

1125
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:15.320
want to get into the way of another creative. His

1126
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.159
name is Alejandro Montoya Marin. He just put out a

1127
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:24.840
movie called The Unexpecteds with Matt Walsh and I forget

1128
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:27.519
the name of the so Kevin Smith has a film

1129
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:29.719
fest in the fall. I don't know if you know

1130
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:31.519
what it's called. I can't remember the name. It's named

1131
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:35.320
after the theater I think in his hometown. And Alejandro

1132
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:39.960
and The Unexpected one best comedy for that movie. So

1133
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:42.639
that was pretty cool to hear about. I've not seen

1134
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.760
him since the summer, and I think he's probably still

1135
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:49.079
still doing a little bit of press on The Unexpected,

1136
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:50.760
and I think he was is or was supposed to

1137
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:54.360
be on Kevin Smith's movie podcast. So I'll definitely check

1138
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:56.159
for that. See if I find a link, i'll send

1139
00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:58.639
it to you. But yeah, I'm just sitting tight write

1140
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.920
in a second novel, as I told you probably before

1141
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:04.960
it's about Uh, I'll just I'll give you the elevator

1142
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.679
pitch because then I practiced. Delilah Russell's an FBI agent

1143
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:12.239
task with investigating the untimely death of a rocker Chicago

1144
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:15.360
rocker named Billy Shred. When she goes undercover as a

1145
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:20.599
musician uh To to basically sort out the case, the

1146
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:23.719
case takes off, and so does her unlikely music career

1147
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:27.679
at age thirty seven. I love it she's undercover, she

1148
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.280
used to. You know, she kind of is a music

1149
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:32.800
fan like me, and in going over to undercover and

1150
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:35.559
getting her band back together, labels want to talk to her.

1151
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:37.320
People want to put her on tour, and you know

1152
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.599
it's she's got to solve the case or maybe cut

1153
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:44.000
a record deal. We'll have to see. And working title

1154
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.119
that is called Wake Up Dead Tomorrow, but it's still

1155
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:46.719
in progress.

1156
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:51.239
So well, listen, you gotta come back when you get some.

1157
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.239
You got some some new developments. You gotta come back

1158
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:54.960
and see us we got we gotta have you back

1159
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:58.000
because you know nineteen ninety six has ended. You know,

1160
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:01.639
this series has been amazing, but it's it's sadly run

1161
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:02.159
its course.

1162
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:02.440
Uh.

1163
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:05.440
I'll tempt you. I'll give you one. I'll pitch you

1164
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:07.320
one here because I know, I know this one's close

1165
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.039
to your heart. Early next year where we're gonna be

1166
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.639
covering John Frankenheimer. Uh, I know you, I know you're

1167
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:14.280
a fan of Ronan. Will you come back and do

1168
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Ronan with us?

1169
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Yeah, totally. I mean I'm almost the age of the

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uh the ex FBI c A I characters in the movie.

1171
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I definitely have the hopefully their knees are a little

1172
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bit better than mine are. But yeah, I'm not that.

1173
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I love that movie.

1174
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I love Cold War stuff, and as you know, it's

1175
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:34.440
kind of like, uh yeah, kind of like it in

1176
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the same way The Beautiful Girls is about the guys

1177
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who are still hanging around in the small town. Ronan's

1178
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about the uh the ex spies are still hanging around Italy,

1179
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.599
and it almost seems like they're so bored that they

1180
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need to have another adventure. And I love that. So yeah,

1181
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:49.039
long live the Adventure.

1182
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:56.280
All right, listeners, you heard it first here Andy for

1183
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I will be back next season, and we want to

1184
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thank all of you out there for listening to our

1185
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:05.559
nineteen ninety six series. We hope we covered most of

1186
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.119
your favorites from the year, and if we didn't, well,

1187
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:10.840
there's always our Patreon available to you. You can sign

1188
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:13.559
up today at patreon dot com slash a Film by

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00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:16.719
a Podcast and depending on which tier you choose, we'll

1190
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:19.800
cover the nineteen ninety six movie of your choice. You

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00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.320
can let us know your take on Beautiful Girls on

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00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.480
social media. You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, and x

1193
00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:30.039
and you can always email us at www dot filmbyopodcast

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dot com. Andy Matt Dylan reminds Timothy Hutton not to

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be a stranger. I'll remind you likewise.

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Yeah, see you in the spring.

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