1996: The Nutty Professor

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It was the mid nineties. Some
of us were a year or two out

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of high school and some of us
were a year or two into college.

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We didn't know who we wanted to
be, but we knew where we wanted

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to be, the movie theater.
These are the movies of nineteen ninety six.

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What's up, everybody? I'm Jeff
Johnson from a Film By podcast with

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our fat That's Phaight new limited series. We've broken down the fresh films of

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nineteen eighty six. We've examined the
gritty cinemascape of nineteen seventy six, and

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now it's time to check out the
Hella good flicks of nineteen ninety six.

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The man who has co hosted more
of our limited series than anybody else,

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the guy who taught me that no
matter what, you got to strut from

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the Shirley you can't me serious podcast, Jason Colvin is with us today.

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What's up? Brother? I am
glad to be here. I'm like the

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Tom Hanks of the Film By podcast. You were the Tom Hanks. You

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are the Steve Martin. Yeah,
you're the guy that brings it every time.

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I'm just glad that you didn't ask
me before we started whether I want

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juice, coffee or rack of lamb
before he started, Well, you know,

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listen, I saw you. You
know, you showed up in spandex,

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all spandex, and you know I
knew you didn't need anything like that.

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Just a few days ago, you
indeed dropped an episode that makes you

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the right guy to discuss today's film
with me. Jason, for our first

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time listeners, do you want to
tell them what the show You Can't Be

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Serious podcast is all about and what
that episode was about. Absolutely? The

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Shrily Can't Be Serious podcast is a
podcast for the MTV generation, and so

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what we try to do is we
try to pick big hitting albums and compare

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it to other albums. We kind
of make a matchup out of it.

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And we also do that with movies. We've got kind of a series of

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top five lists. We've even done
some legendary stinkers, which you've joined us

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on when we do the What the
heck Happened? Series? So right now,

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we just dropped an episode on what
I think is Eddie Murphy's best movie,

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Beverly Hills Cop, and then we
match that up against Beverly Hills Cop

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Part two from nineteen eighty seven.
So I'm niade ben Eddie Murphy. And

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when you called me to do then
Netti Professor, I'm like, dude,

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I've just been studying up on Ednie
Murphy. Let's do this. Listeners check

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out the showy you Can't Be Serious
podcast to hear all about Beverly Hills cop

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And now, as our Sineo used
to say, let's get busy with the

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nutty professor go there this summer.
I'm very much I'm flatter Flata, think

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big, think nutty. You'll make
a swell way. Thank you, Barnet,

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you're looking us in particular. Strand
oh stand the nutty Professor. I'm

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not going to call action. Created
story Friday, June twenty eight that theater's

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everywhere brilliant and kind hearted. Sherman
Klump has created a miraculous weight loss formula.

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When the obese professor drinks the formula
following an embarrassingly bad date, he

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instantly loses two hundred and fifty pounds, but gains the obnoxious, out of

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control persona of Buddy Love Jason.
This is a this is a step in

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a different direction for Freddie Murphy,
was it? Yeah? So I think

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this is kind of the convergence of
a couple of things that he did later

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on his career. And so this
is right before he steps into kind of

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the family realm. I mean,
Daddy Daycare, Shrek, Doctor Doolittle,

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all those kind of family movies that
he got, does you know, because

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he's a father and he's got kids
and he wants to do stuff for them.

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Mm hm. And so this is
kind of a mixture of sort of

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the dirty, raunchy comedy and kind
of a family loving classic, you know

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what I mean. Yeah, it
kind of walks the line on between both

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of them. I want to take
a minute to talk about nineties culture and

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how it influenced this film, and
right away, I gotta say, it's

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all about It's all about our obsession
with with losing weight and looking better,

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and that happened in the nineteen nineties, right, Definitely, definitely the Susan

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Powder if you remember that name from
the early nineties. Yes, stop the

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insanity. Right, the nineties scene
up boom in the at home weight loss

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industry. Infomercials were everywhere you mentioned
Susan Powder's. We had Susanne Summers selling

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the Thigh Master. Tony Little was
shouting at us on the Gazelle Glider.

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We're drinking metoric shakes, We're eating
Genny Craig meals, and all the while

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Richard Simmons is still successfully sweating to
the oldies. We were obsessed. The

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culture was obsessed with weight loss and
looking our best, and this movie,

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I mean it really zeros in on
that. I definitely think that that is

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what you see most from nineties culture
because this is kind of I mean,

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this is still the nineties were too
early for you know, I mean,

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LiPo section was a thing, but
it was priced so high that most people

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couldn't afford it. You know,
even boob jobs and lip jobs and tummy

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tucks and that type of thing.
We're too expensive for the average person.

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And so the weight loss shakes and
you know, the the DCR at home

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where you would I know, in
our house we had seven minute abs.

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You know, you plug in that
VCR tape and go for it. So,

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yeah, this is this is a
step. Aerobics is at its like

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at its peak. Everybody is doing
something at home or at the gym,

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and it's all based on what we're
seeing on television. I think the guy's

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name was, was it Billy Blanks
who did Tybo. Tybo was another big

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one. Yeah. Absolutely, we
couldn't get enough Tybo. I mean,

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he had a whole series of those, those those tapes. Like I made

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a bazillion dollars on VHS tapes,
he did. Eddie Murphy was making a

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bazillion dollars on VHS tapes prior to
the nineties. I want to say,

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like his run in the early nineties
went poorly. I mean, think about

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that. You and I talked about
this a couple of weeks ago. Boomerang,

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the Distinguished Gentleman, Beverly Hills Cop
Three, which should have been a

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hit just by name, right,
even even Vampire in Brooklyn. He's he's

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got a lot of misfires in the
early nineties, right, So he does

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have some misfires in the nineties,
which is to me, it's interesting coming

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off his eighties where he could not
miss right, he could not. No,

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he does, he does trading places, he does forty eight Hours,

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he does Beverly Hills cop he does
Coming to America, Beverly Hills Cop Parts

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two. Is makes a bucket of
money, and then in the nineties something

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shifts. He's just a little bit
too old to play the the smart elek

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guy from out of town. He's
trying to play the romantic lead. I

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just it takes him a bit to
find his footing in the nineties. It

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does. But you know, with
the Nutting Professor, the audience response was

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that he was back, but like
you said, he was walking a fine

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line between raunchy R rated topics but
also family friendly. You know, get

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the kids together, We're gonna laugh
because Eddie Murphy's on the TV. You

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know. This is the first Eddie
Murphy film of the nineties to reach one

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hundred million dollars at the box office. It does just shy of two hundred

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and seventy four million on a budget
of fifty four million, and Jason that

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opening weekend for it, it beats
out a Racer, Disney's The Hunchback of

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Notre Dame, and Strip Tease.
Hey, that opening weekend it made over

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twenty five million dollars. Yes,
which was a record for an Eddie Murphy

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movie, which I was like,
you have got to be kidding me.

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Beverly Hills Cop Two was people could
not wait for that movie coming to America.

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Was the movie that was propped up
and ready to go this, though,

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is the greatest opening Eddie Murphy,
mo bet until Doctor Doolittle a couple

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of years later. That blows my
mind too. Yeah, and even the

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critics are loving this. Roger Ebert
said, and I quote a movie that's

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like a thumb to the nose for
everybody who said Eddie Murphy had lost it.

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He's very good. And the movie
succeeds in two different ways. It's

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sweet and good hearted, and then
there's its raucous slapstick and bathroom humor.

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I like both parts, you know. And he wasn't alone. I mean,

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you read all the critics when this
comes out in ninety six. Everyone,

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they're kind of synonymous. Like Eddie
Murphy's back. He's making us laugh

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again. Go see the movie.
Yeah, I know. When I saw

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this in the theater, I was
dying, like side splitting humor. My

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face hurt from smiling so much.
And I loved it. I thought it

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was fantastic, super funny. Oh. I recall seeing this a couple times

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in the theater because it's one of
those where you might have saw it with

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one or two of your buddies.
So good you had to go back because

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maybe there was a couple of people
that didn't get to go see it yet,

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and you're like, oh no,
I'll go see it again, and

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you just wanted to see it again
just for the family scene alone, just

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you know, I mean what Ebert
calls it, the the raucous slapstick that

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that whole scene. I can't tell
you how many times that that was quoted,

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you know, and and replayed by
me and my buddies, you know,

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when we were when we saw this. So the family scene, I

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think is really interesting because they weren't
sure that that was good enough to make

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the final cut of the movie,
really and then when they show it to

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audiences, of course, audiences go
crazy for the clumps, and then they

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decide, okay, that's the strongest
part of the movie, and they actually

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increased the amount of the clumps in
the second and then you know, the

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sequel. So that makes a lot
of sense when you when you think about

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it, because there's so much work
going on there. I mean, we

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got to remember, Eddie Murphy is
playing seven different parts in this movie,

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and it's something he you know,
he he kind of shows us he can

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do it with coming to America.
He plays he plays a couple different parts

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there in this situation, he's playing
a whole family with exception to the youngest,

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the youngest son, his nephew,
who I believe was played by Jamal

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Mixon. But it's just fantastic.
And and hats off to Rick Baker because

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he wins an Oscar for Best Makeup, you know, ninety seven oscars.

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This one was up against Star Trek
First Contact and Ghost of Mississippi. Blew

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them both out of the water as
far as I'm concerned. Yeah, so,

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Rick Baker does American World London.
He's famous for doing all the Michael

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Jackson makeup on the Thriller video.
He is the guy who kind of got

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off the ground with John Landis.
Kind of an interesting connection there. Of

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course, Eddie Murphy has a John
Landis connection with coming to America and trading

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places. Here's my thing about I
love seeing Eddie Murphy playing multiple characters,

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including two women. Right, yeah, he plays a white character in this

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kind of a Richard Simmons look like
Lance. I forget the guy's name,

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I know Lance something, but yeah, wow, it's clearly Richard Simmons,

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right yeah, oh yeah, And
and he plays all these characters so well,

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and it's so funny. I wonder, though, is there any way

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that he could have enhanced this by
adding Arsenial Hall to the mix. That's

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an interesting concept. I'm gonna say
yes, because if Arsenio would have played

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his brother, who his older brother? I think, I think it's the

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older brother, yes, And then
you get you get Arsenio playing the older

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brother, and maybe you get Arcinia
playing one of I don't know who.

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I don't know which other clump he
would play, because missus clump, you

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know, you know, Sherman's mother
is perfect, so is the grandma.

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I don't he nails them both.
Yeah, So I don't know. I

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like, I like where You're head
and there like I would have liked to

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have seen Ursineo play maybe one of
the clumps. But it's funny, and

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it's funny because initially the studio wanted
the clumps played by by all kinds of

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you know. I think Oprah Winfrey
was in the mix at one time to

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play his mother, which is hilarious. I think she would have done a

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good job with that. But as
I recall, Eddie Murphy and Rick Baker

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get together and they do this little
sizzle reel just to show the studio that

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they can in fact do it,
because you know, obviously the studios like,

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there's no way we can do this. It's gonna cost way too much

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money to extend the shooting schedule to
do all these different takes and all the

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makeup. Can't do it right.
But he proved him wrong. Eddie Murphy

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is top level talent, super comedian. People don't really appreciate how well he

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does impressions. No, he is
a great guy with impressions, you know.

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So he can change the voice and
change the sound. And when he

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plays the mother character, you know, the hercules fabulous. Yeah, and

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she's just such a sweetheart and we
love her and sometimes it's easy to forget

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that's Eddie Murphy. Yeah, it
absolutely is. Jason. Let's take a

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we'll go behind the scenes on this one.

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four four. Right now we are

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back Jason Colvin and I discussing The
Nutty Professor. So the idea to remake

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the original, which starred Jerry Lewis, was initially written for Rick moranis.

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Did you know that? No,
what Rick moranis was who they had in

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mind initially Now, as we know, shortly after his wife's passing. I

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think it was like nineteen ninety one, he had started a transition away from

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live acting. He was doing some
voice work, but he was also moving

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towards an unofficial retirement as it were. Wow, I did not know that.

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That makes a lot of sense,
though, you know, Yeah,

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And I think I think I see
ring Morana's doing more of a the Jeckel

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and the Doctor Jekyl mister Hyde version
of The Nutty Professor that Jerry Lewis did.

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Uh. Probably not the overweight person
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would be my guests, especially when
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looking at Andrew dice Clay for the
role. Could you imagine what they were

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blowing me away? Could you imagine
what that movie would have been like The

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Nutty Professor with Andrew dice Clay,
Because I mean he's already starting off as

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Buddy Love as far as he is
starting off right off the bat as Buddy

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Love, that's right. Yeah,
I mean, I'm not saying he couldn't

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do it. I mean, you
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Adventures of Ford Fairlane, which was
we should cover that one sometimes, I

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don't know, but yeah, we'll
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But it's actually its producer Brian Grazer, whom we talked about on our

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recent episode Ron Howard's Night Shift.
That's where it changes direction with the film

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and he opts to have a black
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B Russell Simmons Russell Simmons Deaf comedy
Jam was huge in the nineties. It

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even gets a little, uh little
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yeah, when he does yeah,
Reggie Warranton takes the stage and you

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know, of course, uh,
Eddie Murphy, let's let's talk to Eddie

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Murphy. And Eddie Murphy you mentioned
it already. His first choice for director

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is John Landis. So okay,
So I think that there's some John Landis

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drama there that we're not really letting
on with. Right, So yeah,

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John Lannis of course directs Eddie Murphy
in Trading Places. Yes, he then

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directs him in Coming to America,
and John Landis has talked about how Eddie

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is much more jaded by the time
Coming into America comes around. He's much

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more of a prima donna. He
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In Trading Places. They had trouble
with Beverly Hills Cop Part three. Yeah,

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so they did have a falling out. Eddie Murphy at one point said

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that Vic Morrow will work with John
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that right, that's that's ice cold, man, I know, man,

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I know. And for those of
you who don't remember, Big morro Is,

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the actor that was killed on the
Twilight Zone set, directed by John

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Landis. Yeah, but here's the
thing, So they ended up getting Tom

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Shaddyac who we know later in the
nineties. He's the guy who brings Ace

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Fenturt of life. He does the
Liar Liar and Bruce Almighty. So he's

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like Jim Carrey's guy. Yeah,
he's the Jim Carrey He's the go to

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guy for Jim Carrey comedies. Right. Yes, And so here's a couple

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of things that blew me away.
And you've alluded to this a little bit,

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but basically, The Nutting Professor in
nineteen ninety six is a remake of

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The Nutty Professor in nineteen sixty three. Yeah, the nineteen sixty three version

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was a parody of Robert Luis Stevenson's
Doctor Jekyll and mister Hyde, which is

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easy to see, but sometimes you
don't really realize that. You step back

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and go, ah, yes,
clearly this is Doctor Jeckyll mister Hyde.

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Yeah, especially when you see this
is Eddie Murphy, who we typically want

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to root for when he's Buddy Love, he's he's he's a jerk. We

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unbearable, Yes, yeah, we
can't. He's obnoxiously. You know,

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he is obnoxious, and and you're
like, get this guy out of here.

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He's terrible. Is he's mister Hyde, Right, He's mister Hyde,

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clearly, clearly. And it's pretty
cool. You you actually do see the

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you know, in the last scene, the kind of the climactic scene.

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You see the good Sherman battling,
you know, the evil buddy Love.

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Yeah, and it's super funny.
But here's the other nugget I wanted to

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drop on you. The executive produc
serve this movie. One of the executive

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producers. Uh huh, Jerry Lewis, Yes, how about that. I'll

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go you one better. This is
a universal movie, right, And as

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we know, Jerry, Jerry,
you know, originally this was this was

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set up at Paramount, Right.
Paramount had this remake in mind for Eddie

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Murphy back in nineteen eighty three.
Jason ooh, there was in There was

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immediate opposition though from Jerry Lewis,
who had other ideas. According to Paramount

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creative executive David Kirkpatrick, he says, and I quote, we tried to

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buy it from Jerry Lewis, and
Jerry Lewis insisted on starring in it,

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so we dropped it. Oh could
you imagine, like here, Jerry Lewis,

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he owns the you know, he's
got the rights to this movie.

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Paramount says, hey, we're going
to remake it. And if they're thinking

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hot young talent, that nineteen eighty
three Eddie Murphy, he is on the

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way up on his stars, just
about to rise. Yeah, and Jerry

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Lewis goes, nah, I don't
think so, I'll start it. This

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is the king of comedy, Jerry
Lewis, right this, Yeah, this

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is hardly working. Yeah, you
know, Jerry Lewis, I'm assuming this

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was maybe like and you got kid, think this is nineteen eighty three,

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so maybe this is his one last
grasp at that gaining regaining the his star,

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like regaining that comedy, that kingdom
of comedy. Right, But it

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wasn't happening, so you know,
And as you said, years later,

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Lewis would go on to executive produce
the remake, but in two thousand and

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nine he makes a statement regretting the
decision, saying that you know, basically,

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do you know about this one?
No? No, tell me,

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Okay, I gotta read this one
to you too, because I was like,

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wow, that's kind of a backstabbing
moment, because you got to remember

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this movie wins an honorary Oscar and
Eddie Murphy hand delivers it to Jerry Lewis

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saying, you know, this is
from one professor to another. But in

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two thousand and nine, Lewis said, quote, I have such respect for

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Eddie, but I should not have
done it. What I did was perfect

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the first time around, and all
you're going to do is diminish that perfection

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by letting someone else do it.
Getting that idea that I'm getting, The

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idea that Jerry Lewis is is buddy
love. Yeah, that's not very appreciative.

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Yeah, oh that's a little It
seems like he's a little bit envious

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of a Vetti star. Maybe a
little bit, I think so. I

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think that's a situation where you've got
someone that should pass the top the comedy

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torch, as it were, and
did not want to do that. You

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know, I want to hold on
to it till it burned out to not

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very noxious. Yeah, I got
one more nugget for you. What do

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you got for me? In the
nineteen sixty three movie, which I haven't

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seen maybe since I was like five, Yeah, so a long time ago,

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little kid, yeah, little kid
stuff. Right, But the character

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of Buddy Love is in that movie
as well. Jerry Lewis plays both characters.

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Yeah. He based the Buddy Love
character on Dean Martin. No.

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Yeah, Oh that makes me want
to go back and see it, because

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when I think Buddy Love, I
think obnoxious jerk. But I don't think

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that when I think Dean Martin.
That's now I gotta see this. Yeah

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pretty cool, right, Yeah,
that's very cool. Uh. Speaking of

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Dean Martin, let's let's talk music. Let's let's discuss this film soundtrack.

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Okay, you're gonna have to help
me here, man, this is this

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is my weak spot. But I'll
tell you right now, if you were

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too lazy to burn a makeout CD, this soundtrack was a good substitute,

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Jason. It features a who's who
of nineties R and B artists. I'm

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talking about Montel Jordan, Foxy Brown, Warren G's on there. We have

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an early track by Jay Z and
you have to remember his debut album Reasonable

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Doubt was released the tuesday before this
film came out. Oh wow, so

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he was he was just about to
explode in popularity. I mean we think

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that, like nowadays we think jay
Z he's you know a lot of people

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hold him in regard as like one
of the greatest rappers of all time.

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He is, he's very unknown when
this, uh when this soundtrack comes out

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nineteen ninety six, that's good,
of course, that's good. Yeah,

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and someone that's very well known,
uh L COOLJ offers a remix of his

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popular song doing it on this On
this one also kind of slowed down.

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You know, when you watch this
movie and you know Sherman's getting getting in

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the mood at home, he's listening
to Teddy Teddy Pendergrass, you know,

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oh, TEDNP this this whole CD. Man, I'm telling you, I

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listened, I gave it. I
gave it a listen to a couple of

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days ago. It is just smooth
like it is smooth in the mood music

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throughout most of it. So you
know, I mean, it's good.

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Yeah, granted, I'm surprised.
So you I mean, you're you're known.

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I've I've listened. I've been listening
to Shirley Keep Me Serious podcasts for

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for a couple of years now,
and you're you know, allegedly you've you've

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you've got some pretty successful uh makeout
music CDs and mixtaps that you've created over

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the years. Well, thank you. Uh, this is not my my

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sweet spot, but I can tell
you this my wife if you want,

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uh, we have a joke at
our house that there's a certain playlist that

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if you want my wife's name is
Kathy. If you if you want fun

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Kathy to come out, you play
certain songs. Yeah, and if you

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play this is how we do it
and regulate by Warren g Kathy's coming out.

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So well listen, I'll tell you
right now, I recommend the next

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time you want to see fun Kathy, put uh put this soundtrack on your

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Spotify playlist, because montel is he's
got some smooth music happening. Not just

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this is how we do it,
but he's got some other tracks on there.

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Foxy Brown is laying it out.
It's a good one, Jason,

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It's definitely a good one. Yeah. I recollecd it, love it.

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Let's talk about this cast. Uh. You know, we've talked a little

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bit about Eddie Murphy, but uh, Jada Pinkett playing the role of Carla

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Party. She's the the grad student
who's who's just now teaching. I don't

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know. I don't know. Okay, you and I talked off air.

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We talk you and I we talked
regularly. I called you this week and

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I'm like, I don't like jays
Jada Pinkett Smith to begin with. Right,

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Yeah, Now, she's young,
and she's beautiful, and she's you

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know, she's the trophy, you
know that these guys are fighting for.

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Basically, that's what she does in
this movie. She doesn't she doesn't really

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do anything in this movie. No, I mean, she's you know,

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like you said, she's the trophy. There's there's there's kind of a there's

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a tennis match going on between Sherman
Clump and Buddy Love, and she's being

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volleyed back and forth between them because
she's sweet on Sherman, and she's she's

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saying yes to dates. You know, she's I'm not saying she's leading him

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on, but she's also she's she's
basically she's encouraging him right to take that

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step and ask her on a date. But then with Buddy Love, she's

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she's bothered, she's repulsed by some
of his behavior, but then she's also

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attracted. She's wildly attracted to him. She you know, she's willing to

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give him a second chance, the
third chance, fourth chance. But that's

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really that's all her character does.
You know, there's not a whole lot

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going on here. This is told
you. I've got some problems with this

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movie, right, Yeah. It
makes me laugh hysterically. I think it's

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funny, and I think Eddie Murphy
is on total display. But I don't

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like her. I don't like certain
characters in this movie. Okay, Yeah,

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she's giving him pity dates in my
opinion, uh huh. And she's

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attracted physically attracted to the bad boy, which we know, we know how

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that goes. Yeah, yeah,
being nice guys ourselves, you know,

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we don't like it when the bad
boys get the dates with the girl.

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But she's putting Sherman in the friend
zone left and right. She's giving him

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pity dates and he can't really see
it. And then for them to end

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up together, it's just kind of
like m Sherman, come on, man,

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find your stuff a good woman.
Is there is there any chance that

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she maybe we're looking at the character
wrong and maybe because think about this,

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she was fascinated by Sherman Clump before
she before she met him. You know,

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she had read his papers and couldn't
wait to meet him. So is

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it maybe is there a possibility that
maybe she's she loves the guy for his

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mind, for his intellect, for
you know, and again he is Sherman

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Clump. Is is very very warm
hearted. He is you know, the

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scenes that Eddie Eddie Murphy does Sherman
Klump, they're funny, but there's also

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so there's something that kind of break
your heart a little bit, you know,

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even when even when he does muster
up the courage to ask her out

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that first time, and she's like, Professor, are you asking me on

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a date? And he's he kind
of puts his head down like he's embarrassed.

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He's like, yes, yes,
yes I am. And but then

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she's like, yes, I'd love
to do it, you know. So

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I don't know, maybe we're being
are we being too hard on this party?

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It's possible, It's possible. I'll
tell you one thing, And I

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mentioned this to you the other day. Jada Pinkett, she's a great actress.

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I'm not gonna take that away from
her, okay, but I think

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maybe Stacy dash would have been the
better choice to play this role. There

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you go, there, you go. She's sweet, she's beautiful, she's

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young, she's she's the trophy,
She's everything you want right there. Yeah,

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And I think with Stacy Dash you
could maybe have a couple extra scenes

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because I believe, like h Stacy
Dash has shown that she can she can

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be fierce. If you've ever seen
there's a nineties movie called Mo Money that

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she does with the Waynes brothers.
Yes, I believe when she's when she's

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kind of fierce and she's trying to
put Damon Wayns in his place in that

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movie, I feel like that could
have been the Carl party that we we

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should have seen in this movie.
I go with you on that. All

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right, here's the other thing.
And this is gonna make me sound like

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a terrible person, but to make
you sound like Buddy Love, this is

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gonna make me sound like Buddy Love. Exactly. Could they not find a

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better wig for Jade? To Pikett
Smith, that wig looks ridiculous. It

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doesn't it doesn't fit her, you
know, I think that was and that

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that's it's weird when you think like
this movie won best makeup her look,

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they're they're trying to make her a
little too too adult, a little too

403
00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:02.759
studious. You know, I just
it didn't work. You know, she's

404
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:04.799
got short I mean, she's attractive
woman, she doesn't need very attractive.

405
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.240
I told you it was the Belinda
Carlisle cut. I mean it doesn't work,

406
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:12.119
right, It didn't work for her, not at all. By the

407
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:18.359
way, you mentioned the fact that
she was attracted to his mind but attracted

408
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.960
to Buddy Love's body. Yeah,
and I did see Eddie Murphy talk about

409
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.319
how certain elements of this movie were
based on Serrano da Bergerac right, the

410
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:33.079
oh I did not. Yeah,
that's a that's a nineteen eighty seven movie

411
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:38.680
that we're both well not shan today, but I should let me let me

412
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.839
correct it for the listeners. There
is a nineteen eighty seven comedy based on

413
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:48.799
Seranado Berzerdak that you and I both
love, that, you know, talking

414
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:55.359
about obviously Roxanne with Steve Martin.
Yes, I never even thought about that

415
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.599
being based you know, but I
never thought about the Nutty Professor. I've

416
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:04.799
always been so focused on the Jekyll
and Hyde, you know, the stuff,

417
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.160
that I never even thought about that
one. But you're absolutely right.

418
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:12.799
I never even you've officially blown my
mind here. Ah, there you go,

419
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.440
there you go. Yay Uh.
Supporting players we got, we got

420
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:22.400
James Coburn and Larry Miller. Larry
Miller is the great kind of odd slime

421
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.240
ball in most of his movies,
right, Yeah, and this I think

422
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.119
this is the second It's either the
second or third time he's played a dean

423
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.200
of a university where he's after the
students because he was the dean of the

424
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:37.839
Necessary Roughness, Necessary Roughness. Yeah, he's always Yeah, he's always that

425
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:43.720
guy that he's he's like out to
get the cool character or trying to get

426
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.200
Yeah, he's trying to get the
armadillos on probation in the Necessary Roughness.

427
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:52.359
Yeah. James Coburn, he's a
fantastic actor. Right. I kind of

428
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:57.200
feel like we could have maybe had
anybody in that in that role though,

429
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.200
I mean it's you get one scene
with him. I don't know, could

430
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:06.799
anyone who played this role? Yes, yes, every time he speaks,

431
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:08.559
Now, I like James Coburn,
he's you know, he's been in a

432
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.880
ton of stuff. Oh, every
time he talks, I think young guns

433
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.440
too, you know, young guns
too. Yep, mister chick, a

434
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:21.440
little billy bastards Yeah, let's have
some fresh coffee with the boys. Yeah,

435
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:27.319
he's fantastic at that. But uh
chism, Yeah, I don't know.

436
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.839
Uh. I'll tell you one person
I do want to talk about real

437
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:35.160
quick talk about a cameo on nineteen
eighty six. We like to talk about

438
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:40.160
We like to talk cameos or before
they were famous extras. Okay, so

439
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:45.440
we got to talk about Dave Chappelle
playing the the rude comedian Reggie Warrington.

440
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:51.000
Yep. You know when you look
when you when you look back on this

441
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.200
movie now, if you haven't seen
it in years or you've never seen it,

442
00:33:54.240 --> 00:34:00.240
and then you see Dave Chappelle jump
out, kind of kind of take

443
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.039
your breath away for a second.
You're like, whoa young Dave Chappelle being

444
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.599
a comedian. Yeah. So,
Dave Chappelle, I think is one of

445
00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:14.760
the funniest guys out there right now. He's also extremely smart and thoughtful.

446
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:22.360
He's not this brash, obnoxious goofball, or at least he's not anymore,

447
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.920
you know. Yeah, And so
he's playing a stand up comedian and he's

448
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:31.239
super talented as well. But as
far as comedy goes, I prefer the

449
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:37.039
style that we have now you know
as well. Yeah, see this is

450
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:38.440
bad people in the audience, you
know, so, yeah, this is

451
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:43.559
this is this is even long before
the Chappelle Show. Uh, and you

452
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:49.960
remember Eddie Murphy was a huge influence
on him, and uh and Eddie even

453
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.239
you know, I think I think
one thing that helps Chappelle in this movie

454
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:57.199
is uh, you know, allegedly
Eddie pulls him aside and says, hey,

455
00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.320
I really like yours, I really
enjoy your stand up. I think

456
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.440
you're gonna go play. So when
when Eddie Murphy, who is one of

457
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:07.320
the biggest comedy talents on the planet, tells you that, you know,

458
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:13.199
wow, you know, and you
gotta think most of their dialogue is as

459
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.880
ad libbed. That's just them going
back and forth with with the mama jokes

460
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:22.519
and the fat jokes. It's so
great, right and one one up in

461
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.559
each other. You know. Yeah, I think that's a great moment too.

462
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:29.880
They're they're kind of because they're they're
both taking the abuse but also auditioning

463
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:35.440
it out equally in equal measure.
Fantastic moment and and it kind of messes

464
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:38.639
with your head a little bit because
we do not like buddy love, right,

465
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:44.360
we don't want to like him.
He is the he's the villain of

466
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:47.360
the movie when you look at it. But this, in the moment where

467
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:52.239
he goes after Dave Chappelle, he's
kind of standing up for Sherman. He's

468
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:57.079
kind of standing up for the little
guy everywhere. Sure, and this is

469
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.760
the moment where you know Carla Pardi
she's she's into him. She's like she

470
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.320
really appreciates what he does. So, uh, you're not waiting for the

471
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.559
plus lines, redic I'm sorry,
man, it's just just so funny.

472
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.280
You're so funny the way you take
a person's personal defect and flipping around.

473
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.639
That's you on your weight, you
going to the top. That ain't work

474
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:17.800
with me doing it to you,
Reggiet, Yes it would if I would

475
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:21.519
say, look at Reggie's gums and
teeth. Look like his mother had a

476
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:30.760
fair with mister Ed. See everybody
laughing. You living on Lea. Oh

477
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:35.199
you living on Reggie. It's your
teeth, Reggiet. I don't know whether

478
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:40.280
to smile. Lets you kick a
field goal, man, we get like

479
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:45.400
this one one brief moment where we're
cheering buddy love on. It's not gonna

480
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.199
last, right, because of things
that he says and does. But it's

481
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.519
a good moment for the character,
right, Absolutely, I love that.

482
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.400
I love that scene, and you're
right, Buddy, loved like out obnoxiouses

483
00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:02.599
the other guy's obnoxiousness, you know. He Dave Chappelle's character has one really

484
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:06.400
funny line that I just picked up
on this time around, like I just

485
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.239
kind of heard it. Okay.
He talks about how Sherman has to put

486
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:15.119
on his belt with a boomerang.
Oh yeah, no, little little little

487
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:19.039
jab at Eddie Murphy there with a
boomerang, not doing so hot. Yeah,

488
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.760
so, but yeah, it's it's
funny to hear them going back and

489
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:29.039
forth. Too, talented comedians going
out of it, and I mean both

490
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:35.760
guys, very very talented comedians.
Absolutely, we're gonna take one more break

491
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.760
and when we come back, we'll
be keeping it real with Jason Covin.

492
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.679
All right, everybody, we are
back. It's time to keep it real.

493
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.880
Jason, I've got a couple questions
for you. Okay, you'll be

494
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:57.280
familiar with this. We kind of
did this on our ninety a sixth series,

495
00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:59.800
you know, when we did the
breakdown. Now we're keeping it,

496
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:07.000
so let's start with this one one
of our favorite actors. William Zobka was

497
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:14.480
dominating dojo's high school cafeterias and college
swimming pools in some of the best movies

498
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:19.199
in the eighties. Then he's notably
absent from Hollywood for most of the nineties.

499
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:24.719
So the question is what about zob
Jason. I want you to replace

500
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:30.800
one actor from this film with William
Zobka. Okay, this is really hard

501
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:36.039
because almost all the interesting characters in
this movie are played by Eddie Murphy.

502
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.800
Yes, so you're kind of left
with nobody left right, you can't can't

503
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:45.519
play missus Purdy. I mean that's
out right, that's out yep. Basically,

504
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.960
you have three choices. He can
play the James Coburn character, the

505
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:54.599
Larry Miller character, or the Jason
John Ayle's character. So I'm if I'm

506
00:38:54.639 --> 00:39:05.679
recasting, I am putting William Zobka
yea as Harlan Hartley, the rich guy

507
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.800
who's the James Coburn character, the
guy who's uh backing you know, his

508
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:15.679
university money is on the line,
Okay, And I'm replacing John Ales the

509
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.519
Jason character, with our Senel Hall. So I'm double I'm giving you a

510
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:23.079
double shot right there. Are you
double dipping the chip here? All that

511
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:29.320
in a bag of chips there?
Yeah? Oh well, okay, I'm

512
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:37.360
gonna challenge you because for me,
William Zopka replaces David Chappelle. Now,

513
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:42.679
oh okay, let me explain.
Okay, So, you know, Sherman

514
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.840
asks Carla out on a date.
They decide that they're going to go to

515
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:46.719
the Scream. You know, it'd
be a scream at the Scream, you

516
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:51.360
know nightclub that you can get a
bite to eat and see some music.

517
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:59.159
Here's some comedy. I'm gonna replace
Chappelle and slightly rewrite the scene so that

518
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.880
he asks her out and she says, well, how about you come with

519
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:06.320
me to you know, to the
gym. I'm doing this new tybo class.

520
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.320
Oh yeah, And Sherman accompanies Karla
to her gym for a tybo class,

521
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:16.519
which that's where William Zopka comes in, and he's the instructor. So

522
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.519
he can kind of make fun of, you know, Sherman because we see

523
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:22.280
like leading up to the date,
like he's he's in the gym, he's

524
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.440
trying to work out, so we
could lead that, you know, almost

525
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:29.119
like a rocky montage for him.
And then he goes faces off against William

526
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.800
Zodka. He gets dominated, but
then when he comes back, his buddy

527
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:37.400
love he you know, turns it
turns the tables on on on our friend

528
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.119
William Zopdka. How about that.
I think that's that's great. Now,

529
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:44.719
that's I love it. I love
it? All right, great joy by

530
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:46.960
the way, all right, yes, I'm studying up. We're doing Karate

531
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:52.719
Kid next. You know how I
feel about uh, my friend William Zopka

532
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:58.880
and and the and what uh what
what John Lawrence does in that movie and

533
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:00.360
who he really is and that movie. So we're going to have to talk.

534
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.400
I can't wait. I can't wait. I've got a nugget on the

535
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:10.119
guy who could have played Johnny Lawrence
that's in United I can't wait to tune

536
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:15.119
in for that one. All right, Jason, A question I've asked you

537
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:22.440
several times on our nineteen eighty six
series sequel prequel remake. If you ConTroll

538
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.440
this ip, what would be your
pitch to the studio to revive it?

539
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.880
This is This was really hard for
me because this already is a remake.

540
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:36.320
So we get a remake, we
get sequels, we have the clumps,

541
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:39.400
you know, so Yep, we
have that. I don't know that a

542
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.719
prequel really works, you know,
I don't want to see Sherman get fat.

543
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:49.239
Okay, hope they can't do that. So here's my idea, and

544
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.039
it's kind of an obvious choice,
but I still have to go there.

545
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.239
So I think you remake this.
I'm with you, and I think you

546
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:01.599
remake it with Kevin Hart. Okay, I think you do it where his

547
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:10.239
alternate ego becomes tall Kevin Hart is
he's physically fit, but there was there's

548
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:16.239
never anything a short person can do
about their stature. And all of a

549
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:22.199
sudden, Kevin Hart's playing basketball.
He's dunking on people. He's mister big

550
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:29.519
Time on the basketball court. There's
this long running, uh playful fighting going

551
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:31.960
on between him and the Rock over
the years, where they make the Rock

552
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:35.400
makes fun of him for being too
little, Kevin Heart makes fun of him

553
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.400
for being too big. Huh.
So a Kevin Hart a remake with Kevin

554
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:43.159
Hart where he's Kevin Hart, but
then you know, grows and he becomes

555
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.559
like a taller person. Like that
could work. I can't even see the

556
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.519
Rock like though, these two sharing
it. Maybe now that you're getting you

557
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.079
get me on that idea. I'm
with you, though, I'm going for

558
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:55.800
a remake. I'm gonna ta I'm
gonna take you on a different pitch though.

559
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:58.760
See what you think of this.
Okay, all right, all right,

560
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:05.480
I want to remake Call the Nutty
Professors. Ooh ooh. This time

561
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:10.239
a pair of scientists are working together. Both take the formula for conflicting reasons.

562
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:15.559
And now we have two actors behind
four personalities running around and co mingling.

563
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:22.880
And I say, cast a male
and female comedic talent. Okay,

564
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:27.079
So I was I was thinking maybe
like like Keegan Michael Key and Tiffany Hattish.

565
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.639
Maybe. Okay, so you've got
like two good to two villain and

566
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:36.239
then maybe like there's interchangeable like you
can see the two bad ones hanging out.

567
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:37.480
You can see the good one with
one of the bad ones mixing,

568
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:43.760
mixing match. It goes off the
charts, right, and and Chappelle cameos

569
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.280
as the dean or the rich alumni
because I want you gotta have Chappelle back,

570
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:51.840
right, I like it. What
do you do you add another crazy

571
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:53.960
nutty professor to the mix? I
think that's that works perfectly, good,

572
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:58.360
good God, I think I think
that'd be I don't know, producers,

573
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:02.800
money people. You heard two pitches. Let's let's get with one of these,

574
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:05.800
and I'm a fan of either one
of them. Love it, I'll

575
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.079
I'll tell you what I'm not a
fan of is the DVD extras that you

576
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.719
got on the Nutty Professor. So
that leads me to my final question,

577
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.920
Jason, DVD extras. So it
was in fact nineteen ninety six when the

578
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:23.719
DVD format is initially introduced to US
markets, and while the simplicity of the

579
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.800
compact disc pleased us, the high
definition wowed us and had us tossing our

580
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:35.400
VHS tapes out. But for centophiles
like us, the bonus features were usually

581
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.840
like a no frills package of scene
selection or Spanish subtitles. Sometimes you got

582
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:45.800
a trailer. The Nutty Professor offered
production notes. Yeah, that's it.

583
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:52.760
So my question, Jason, what
DVD extra would you want on your DVD

584
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.360
for this film? You can have
an audio commentary, you can have deleted

585
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.880
scenes, or you can have a
making of documentary, which when you're going

586
00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:04.800
to choose, I think what we
got is what we really wanted. Okay,

587
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:10.360
and I'm gonna I'm throwing this at
you because cannonball run style. At

588
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.519
the end of the movie, at
the end of the credits, we get

589
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:17.559
the blooper reel yep, which is
at least as funny as the rest of

590
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:22.960
the movie, right, absolutely,
and so top of the heap. My

591
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:27.599
first pick would be like a blooper
reel, which we get, right yeah.

592
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.639
But for DVD extras, and I'm
with you, I get so mad

593
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.960
because what you and I do,
we rely on the DVD extras a lot

594
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.679
of times to make you know,
the notes on our podcasts and stuff.

595
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:43.639
Absolutely yeah. So my default,
and it's gonna be in this case as

596
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:49.360
well, is always going to be
the audio commentary, the scenes behind the

597
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.119
movie, the stories of what was
happening, the actors recollections, all that.

598
00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:00.960
I'm always an audio commentary guy,
all right. Sub question is this

599
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:07.159
audio commentary being provided by director Tom
Shadyac or is it by Eddie Murphy.

600
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.360
I always like a conversation between at
least two people, all right. So

601
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:15.800
you want both, I want them
both, You get them both, okay?

602
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:21.639
Sweet. One of the worst audio
commentaries of all time is when John

603
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:23.599
McTiernan talked for two and a half
hours about Diehard and I learned nothing.

604
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:28.840
So that's not a good that's a
terrible one. I liked it back and

605
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forth. I love audio commentaries obviously, but I also enjoy a good making

606
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.719
of documentary. And this is a
situation where I would love to see a

607
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:42.920
Rick Baker documentary on his makeup process
for Eddie Murphy. You know, give

608
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.119
us some It could include some screen
tests. Maybe it shows us the screen

609
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:50.599
test that the executive saw to win
them over, you know, because you

610
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.599
gotta think, like Eddie Murphy is. I think it's three hours a day

611
00:46:53.159 --> 00:47:00.239
for eighty days he's doing makeup with
Rick Baker, So that's an incredible amount

612
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:01.760
of time in the makeup chair.
Yeah, and you gotta think, like

613
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.559
all that time, those guys,
I'm sure they formed a pretty good friendship

614
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.519
and I'd love to see what that
what that looked like over the course of

615
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.199
this production, all of Rick Baker's
behind the scenes stuff has been great.

616
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.719
The making of Thriller Video one of
my favorites as a kid, you know,

617
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.079
amazing. Well, let's talk about
the legacy that this film has,

618
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.440
uh you know, has it has
it aged well over time? And is

619
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:30.599
it a strong representation of nineties culture? I think it has aged not quite

620
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.920
as well as I would have hoped. There's lots of you know, fat

621
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.320
jokes and you know fat shaming and
that type of thing. There are some

622
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:45.480
problems with it, but I do
think it is still a nineties classic comedy,

623
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.519
so okay. So that my next
question was going to be is this

624
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.760
a classic, occult classic or a
product of its time. You're going with

625
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.199
a classic, then absolutely, it's
one of the funniest movies in the nineties.

626
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.599
I agree with you. I don't
think it represents nineties culture all that

627
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:05.480
well, but it is a classic
classic comedy. As for how the film

628
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.320
impacted pop culture, I think it's
safe to say there's two things going on

629
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:14.039
here. First off, this was
Eddie Murphy's comeback role, which put him

630
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:17.559
back on the map right right,
and it helped Dave Chappelle as a star

631
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:22.719
of stand up comedy. Oh yeah, that's a good call, I think.

632
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.719
I think without without this movie,
we don't have the Chappelle Show,

633
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:31.559
right, we don't have we don't
have Axel, we don't have Bellie Hills

634
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:35.679
cop AXL Folly, which is about
to come out soon. That's right,

635
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:37.639
yep, I think we're missing out
on a lot of a lot of great

636
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:44.039
stuff without this movie, do we
have I mean, Tom Shatty goes on

637
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.920
and does some great Jim Carrey comedies
later on he does. Now Ace Ventury

638
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.480
predated this, but do we have
that kind of legacy of Jim Carrey comedy

639
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:57.679
comedies. I don't think we do
without this one. I don't think you're

640
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:01.599
gonna get to you know, Bruce
Almighty or Evan Almighty you know. So

641
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:08.840
yeah, Well, Jason, I
want to thank you for joining me today

642
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:14.239
to talk about the Nuttie Professor one
more time. I gotta say the show

643
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:19.079
you Can't Be Serious. Podcasts dropped
a dynamite episode a few days ago on

644
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:23.679
Beverly Hills Cop. What's up next? Okay, so we just dropped part

645
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:29.199
one of our Beverly Hills Cop versus
Billy Hills Cop Part two episode. We're

646
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.960
gonna do another chapter on that,
so our second episode, and then we

647
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:37.280
are matching up to Beverly Hills Cop
soundtrack to the soundtrack of the TV show

648
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:40.559
Miami Vice. I can't imagine,
and I know you, so, I

649
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:44.760
can't imagine where you're gonna fall,
Like when you guys do your famous final

650
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:49.320
judgments you know, it's always hard
man, it's split children, you know.

651
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.360
Well, Jason, thank you very
much. I'm fatter, I'm flattered,

652
00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:00.960
and listeners, thank you for checking
out our latest limited series, nineteen

653
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.559
ninety six. We're going to cover
a lot of movies from the year,

654
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.880
but we won't get to all of
them. So let us know, is

655
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.960
there a film from nineteen eety six
that is a must or maybe you've got

656
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.400
a hidden gym to recommend. You
can tell us by emailing a Film by

657
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:20.599
Podcast at gmail dot com or hit
us up on our social media channels.

658
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:25.800
We're on Facebook, Instagram, and
Twitter. Jason, we got a bounce.

659
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:31.000
But next time on nineteen ninety six, we'll discuss another film based on

660
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:37.719
doctor Jaco mister Hyde, talking of
course about Mary Riley starring Julia Roberts,

661
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:44.639
who was all that in a Bag
of Chips in the nineties. Peace out.

662
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:06.320
Hey, you know, peek behind
the curtains here at the Film by

663
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.159
Podcast. You and I had agreed
that we're going to do this at three

664
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:13.440
o'clock Central, and then I got
a call at two twenty Central. You're

665
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:15.920
like, dude, what's going on? Where are you? I'm like,

666
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:20.519
dude, I was like, what
the heck is he is? We just

667
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:24.679
talked a little bit ago. He
knows it's three o'clocklock. You're like,

668
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:36.760
yes, Like what's going on?
I'm like how much? You're like,

669
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:38.840
you're like Jeff's Baccoli. They're like, you know, what the hell's going

670
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:47.280
on? Learning about Cuba, having
a snack, supposed to be the studio man,