Oct. 12, 2025

Adam Green - Hatchet

Adam Green - Hatchet
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Season 6A Film By...

Scary movie season isn't complete without an over-the-top slasher on the list. This week, Jeff, Garret, and David sharpen their conversation skills with Adam Green's 2006 horror film, Hatchet!

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Horror has many subgenres, and if we're talking about the

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slasher genre, I believe there's four characters that go up

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on Mount Rushmore. Now you tell me if I'm wrong,

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because I welcome debate on this topic, and I'm even

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going to do them in order of their debut. So

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the four slashers I'm putting up on Mount Rushmore Leatherface

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nineteen seventy four, Michael Myers nineteen seventy eight, Jason Vorhees

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nineteen eighty and Freddy Krueger nineteen eighty four. You're not wrong.

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I can't argue with that.

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You're not wrong at all. Yeah, that's pretty spot on.

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I know you guys love slashers just as much as

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I do. And that brings us to a conversation about

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one of the newer ones. So let's talk about a

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film by Adam Green, his two thousand and six underrated

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slasher film Hatchet. Hello and welcome back.

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I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm David Burns, and I'm Garrett Gibson.

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And this is a film by podcast gentlemen. I am

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I'm excited for this one. I'm also excited this is

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the first time the three of us have done a pod. Right, Yeah, yeah,

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all right, Well I think we're in for a good

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conversation because for as long as I've known both of you,

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I've known one specific thing. You guys love horror films.

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You guys love slashers. So let's get into this one,

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and let's start with a couple of facts. In a

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quote from our director Adam Green, because this guy absolutely incredible.

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The more I read about him, the more the more

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I'm loving this guy. Starting off with this one. When

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he got married in twenty ten, the wedding was officiated

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by d Snyder. Yes, that D Snyder of Twisted Sister.

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Well that's pretty cool. Yeah. And if you're like what

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you're if you like me and you're going wait, wait

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what how? Yeah, it turns out they've been lifelong friends. Uh.

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You can check out the special features if you've got

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the original Hatchet, the unrated DVD or Blu ray. There

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is a mini doc called a Twisted Tale that kind

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of chronicles how they met and their friendship. But it's

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just one of those things where I'm like, that's bizarre.

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It's it's cool, but very very very cool. This one

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absolutely will stun you. So if you remember back when

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Fox released their fortieth anniversary DVD for the nineteen sixty

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eight Planet of the Apes films, they realized that there

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were no high resolution photos of Maurice Evans, who played

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Doctor Zs. So they pulled the original prosthetics and the

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costume out of storage to do a photo shoot. And

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the FX studio that was in charge of this was

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aware that Adam Green was a huge fan of the

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original film, so they had him come in to be

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doctors as. Therefore, it's actually Adam Green that you see

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on the DVD cover art. That's pretty cool. That's amazing.

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That is that is pretty awesome.

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Yeah. Yeah, now here's where this guy's just if you

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thought he was awesome already, you're gonna really think he's awesome.

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This guy he's big on charity, like creating events, hosting events.

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Following the twenty thirteen Boston Marathon bombings, Green, who grew

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up in Boston, created his own Boston Strong fundraiser several

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weeks later. It was a three day event that included

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screenings of the TV series Holliston, which is a city

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in Boston. Yep. He had a marathon of the Hatchet

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films and a celebrity filled auction that offered rare and

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one of a kind items donated by John Carpenter, Caine Hodder,

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Wes Craven, Rob Zombie, Chris Columbus, and Eli Roth just

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to Nate damn. Oh that's quite the lift.

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I know.

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The auction raised twenty five thousand dollars for the marathon

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victims in their families. WHOA could you go? Like, I'm

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just wondering, like, what what's Wes Craven donating to this? Yeah?

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Like a script you know that he wrote? Is it?

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You know? Is Robert giving you like a glove or

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a Fedora? I can only imagine some of the cool

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stuff that was at this auction. Yeah, no, kidding on

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working with the same people repeatedly, Adam Green is quoted

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as saying, invest in people who want it as badly

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as you do. M that makes sense. I I you know,

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that's why you guys are here. You know what this

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pot is bad as badly excited.

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Honestly, you do see that with a lot of people

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right now, like James Gunn anything he touches. Ever, Michael

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Rooker's right there. It's someone who wants the project to

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succeed as much as he does, so I completely understand.

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I gotta I gotta be honest. I think this is

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one of those situations where you would think the same

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director working with the same group could get a little monotonous,

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or it could get a little it could maybe take

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you away from the characters of that's of said movie.

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But I mean, Hollywood, this is been this, This dates

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back to ed Wood, you know, using the same same

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group of people, and other great directors like Scorsese who

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always uses the same three or four I think it

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works though, honestly, it does well. I'm sure there's a

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there's probably some listeners that maybe haven't seen Hatchet yet, So, David,

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if you wouldn't mind offering up a brief synopsis for

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this one sure.

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Tagged as old school American horror. A group of tourists

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go on a tour through the Louisiana Bayou, where they

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learned about a terrifying ghost story about a man named

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Victor Crowley who was accidentally killed by a hatchet by

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his own father. As the tour continues, their boat has

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an accident, causing it to sink, forcing everyone to make

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their way into the bayou to find their way back

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to the city. Unfortunately for them, it is going to

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be a very difficult trip as the ghost story of

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Victor Crowley turns out to be a real and now

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they're being hunted and killed in very horrific style. The

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group run for their lives, doing whatever they can to

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escape him and the Bayou.

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Very nicely done.

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I'm trying to think, like, is there what other horror

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films do we have that take place in the Bayou

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other than the Hatchet series? Uh, nothing comes to mind

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for me, kele Thiny, I think, wasn't it? Oh yeah,

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I can think of It's just it's just right for

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the picking down there.

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It is and far in between.

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Yeah, maybe surp in the Rainbow? Did that take place

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down there?

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Uh?

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Was that Haiti? Or was that Haiti? That was Haiti?

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Yes?

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Yeah, Okay, I gotta tell you we Uh there's a

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there's a Bayou boogeyman that we happened to know down there. Uh, Dave,

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I'm talking about James Buckley, our good buddy, our good buddy,

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Jeames Buckley. So listen, James, James lives down there. James

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happens to be a fan of of the genre, So

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I had to reach out. I told him. I was like, hey,

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we're we're gonna cover Hatchet, and I was just curious

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what you thought about it. So here's here's what James

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had to say. He says, first, if you've ever been

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in or near a Louisiana swamp, it's pretty obvious that

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these swamp scenes were shot elsewhere. Well, James actually were.

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They were shot in California. South Louisiana swamps are vast

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expanses of muddy water with lots of sight rish trees, alligators,

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raccoons and snakes. And did I mention alligators? He says.

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The establishing shots in New Orleans are definitely real, though

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he says a lot of the shops that you see

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in the film still exist to this day, although some

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have moved to different locations, because he says, the film

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was actually shot about a year after Hurricane Katrina hit

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the Big Easy, so the city was slowly beginning to

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regain its sleazy, greener Oh and you know, he gives

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us a little educational fact here, and he says, finally

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the name. If Victor and his family lived out in

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the swamps, they were likely of Cajun descent. Although there

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is a city named Crowley in southeast Louisiana, Victor would

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more likely have been Victor Abert or Victor Broussard. And

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he also says, you know, as far as us covering

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this movie, he says, the Louisiana Tourism Bureau appreciate your support.

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Swamp tours are also a big thing. By the way, James,

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thank you, thank you for offering up some education on

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the big easy. Yeah. Always always fun to talk with him,

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it is. So let's take a quick break, and then

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we got to talk about this this cast, because there's

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some there's some pretty unbelievable cameos from the horror industry,

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and there's some, there's some, there's some there's some good

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actor here, and then there's some acting. But in all,

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all in all, it's it's a fun time. Yeah, we'll

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get there, we'll be right back. Welcome back. We are

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talking all about two thousand and six's Hatchet. So, guys,

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a pretty big cast, maybe not a well known cast.

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So we got Caine Hodter playing Victor Crowley. We got

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Joel David Moore as our our lead here, our hero.

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Can we call him here? Should we call him a hero? Sure? Sure? Maybe? Yeah,

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he's the guy that you're assuming we'll get slaughtered at

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some point because he's he's with the final girl. Uh,

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Joel Joel, David Moore is playing Ben. He got Dion

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Richmond as Marcus, his buddy. Amara's Argoza as Mary Beth,

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Mercedes McNabb as Misty, Perry Sheen as Sean, the goofy

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little tour guide, Richard Real as Jim Prematello, Patricia Darbo

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as Shannon Permatello. They're they're the awkward kind of socially

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awkward couple, married couple. Yes, they're down there. Yeah. Joel

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Murray as Doug Shapiro the sleazy Girl's gone wild producer

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type by you beavers, Yeah, by by you beavers. And

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then uh, we'll talk. We'll talk one more, one more name.

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Uh when we when we start talking cameos. But back

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to the top. Kine Hotter, one of the all time

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greats in the horror industry, as as Victor Crowley. Hmm,

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let's talk about this guy, Victor Crowley or Kane Hodter.

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Let's talk about Bob Well, let's talk about Kate because

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I think at this point all three of us have

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had I have met him several times. We had some

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some fun conversations.

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With him, right, yeah, it's because of him that I

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had to buy a new cell phone.

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Yeah, Dave, you want to you want to tell the

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cell phone story?

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Uh, briefly, So we went to Scarefest in Lexington last

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year and uh, the phone that I had had a

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big crack on the glass. Obviously I knew I had replaced.

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I had it for years. And uh, I pulled it

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out the hand to you, Jeff, to get our to

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get a picture with Caine, and he looks at it

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and listen videos. You need to get a new phone.

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And I was like, all right, Kane, I will.

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I'm not gonna argue with you. Literally I went out

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about a new phone because of Kane Hider. Come on, Yeah, yeah,

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you talked to him a time or two, haven't you

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a couple of times?

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I've met him. First time, of course, Friday thirteen, signing

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at a Hoorehound weekend. I was pretty fun and exciting

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getting to meet people like him, CJ. Graham, stuff like that.

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Super nice guy. Laid the classic varheatst choke on me

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and gave you about I think forty percent as he

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calls it, you can feel it.

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Oh okay, well, now we got to talk. We got

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to talk about this because you got the Voorheast choke.

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Yes.

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Now, recently one of the last times I saw him,

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well we you know, we talked, we did we did

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a photo op. Yeah, and I said, hey, man, I said, uh,

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how about how about how about a little fun one

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where like you're strangling me? And he looks at me.

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He's like, no, I can't do that.

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No, I said, not anymore.

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I said, you can't. He goes, nah, he goes. I

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was a little you know, I did it and someone

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thought I was a little too rough, and uh, I

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just I don't I don't take a chance anymore. I

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was like, okay, I understand that. He goes, how about

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how about I punch in the face? I was like,

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and you know, I I I cautious because I don't

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know what I don't know what that means. But you're

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talking about you know that forty is a hell of

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a lot because we did this pose where it looks

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like he's punching me in the face. And I'm telling

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you what, man, that guy's fist is nothing but granted,

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oh and I'm thinking just him pressing against my jaw.

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I thought if he went full go, I'd be on

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the floor. I'd be taking a nap.

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quite impressively strong age.

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He still to this day strikes a very imposing figure.

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Oh guy is just incredible. Absolutely love him and I

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love I love this Victor Crowley character. M Garrett. You

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it was you. We were talking a couple months back.

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We're we're talking about like what's going to make the

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cut for October and you said, come on, man, let's

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talk Adam Green. Yep, So all right, well you know

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what are you thinking? You said Hatchet And then Dave,

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you know, several weeks back, is like, man, we should

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do like an Adam Green movie, or we should do

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one of the Hatchet films or something like that. It's like,

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well how about that. Okay, Well come on in, Dave

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the water Form because uh, and I just knew. I

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was like, we're gonna have a great time talking about

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this because obviously we all three are fans of this film.

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It's it's a little over the top, it's it's definitely

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got a splatter, but it's it's just fun.

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Right it is, and it goes unto the radar. I

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think for a lot of people, I mean people who

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are in the horror genre know about it, but it's

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they saying that other people who don't know much about

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it should watch it because, uh, it's.

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It's a good horror film. Yeah, absolutely, I agree with you.

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What do you think you're.

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I agree with David there. I mean, it's an absolutely

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amazing film. I believe the amount of stars that are

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in it, whether they're cameos or whatever, it is, every

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one of them's kind of made some sort of impact.

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And like horror awaighted films such as Robert England, Tony

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Todd Perry and all them. Now, so no, I think

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it's mussy for sure.

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I think it's definitely a musty if you're a horror fan.

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But uh, Joel David Moore, he's playing Ben. Now, I

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know this guy from Grandma's Boy where he played that

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weird antagonistic computer programmer. Yeah, it's hard not to see

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him as anything else other than that. So, you know,

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even though I've seen Hatchet a bunch of times, I'm like,

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I'm just not I don't know, man, you know, I'm

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not ready for it.

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I remember it's Norman Avatar wasn't.

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Oh my gosh, I forgot about that.

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Yeah, I completely forgot about that. Dave, Yeah, forget Dodgeball too.

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Yeah, Okay, all of a sudden, like this guy star

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of the film, Joel David Moore, let me correct her.

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I didn't realize this guy's done a lot of big

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stuff that we but we like. Yeah, I do, like

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I listen, I do like him in this. I know

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he he's kind of like the reluctant hero. You know,

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he's his characters down there. They go down to the

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you know, Marty grawl to get his mind. You know,

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he's been dumped and he's just, oh man, the poor

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guy's got no game. I love.

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That's a nice jacket.

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Jacket. I honestly I laugh every time when they when

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when Adam Green does that that smash cut to Dion Richmond, Yeah,

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Marcus looking at Marcus's face like it's so good. It's

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so good. I'll tell you what else is good. Joel

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gets the classic Carpenter line. Uh the end of the movie,

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their hatchet coming, you know, hatchet face comes back, Victor Crowley,

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I should say, and he gives that iconic you gotta

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be fucking kidding me. Yeah, yep, Garrett, I haven't seen

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every Hatchet film, which I will be uh correcting here

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in the next day or so, but apparently this line

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is in every single hand shit film. Okay it is.

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And this is all just because he's a he's a

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carpenter fan, right yep. When you want to talk about

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method acting, and I don't want to be I don't

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want to be gross here, but I just I read this.

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I was like, man, that's just that's unreal. This guy

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there's a scene at the end of the movie where

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he has to vomit. Yeah, yeah, there's some you know,

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this is like I said, it's a splatter film. We

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won't talk about what the reason why he needs to vomit,

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but I saw it. I was like, oh, that's that's

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that's harsh. He vomited for real? He did one take?

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Yeah?

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Yeah? Did you now do you guys? Are you aware

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of what he ate so that he would it would

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be easier for him to vomit? Did you? Did you

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read this?

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It like oysters or something like that, wasn't it or something?

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He he he eats cold clam chowder with with orange juice. Yeah,

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how disgusting. Is that I want to throw up right now,

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just just just talking about it.

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Man, that's taking one for the team, man, I tell you, wow,

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I don't know if I could do that. It's like

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reminding of the Sardines Jeff Knew.

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Oh yeah, when we try to do that sardine challenge.

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No yea, no thanks, can't do it, No thanks. Yeah,

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it's it's it's a fun character though. I like, Uh,

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I love he's got that late nineties early two thousands. Look,

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you know the T shirt with the long sleeve thumb

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underneath it. You know he's got that. He's got that

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nineties haircut. There's no denying that. But you know, you

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you just assume that he's going to get hacked to

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pieces at any point, because, let's face it, you know,

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the rules of the slasher film are that the the

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final girl will make it and everyone else doesn't. That's

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why there's a final girl. There's not a final guy, right, correct, Yep,

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those are the rules. Those are the rules. Sorry, you

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think of back to our coverage of Scream when we

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did the nineteen Yeah. Uh, it's a fun cast of characters.

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I don't know if you guys want to spend any time,

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any real time on anyone in particular before you get

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to the cameos. But uh, I would like to point

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out that the sleazy by you Beaver's guy, Joel Murray,

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that's that's Bill Murray's brother. It is ye yep. You

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have to know that though, like when you just when

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you hear him or you look at him. I'll always

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remember him in One Crazy Summer though. Oh yeah, I

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played George. Yeah, and then he has a scooge He's

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a I mean, he's a big character actor.

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He's in like a a ton of stuff, yes, a

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ton of stuff. So a couple of things, Jeff, So one,

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please tell me that you saw that Joel Murray playing

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Duk Shapiro really could play Art from the Burbs because

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he had that same Now but other note about the Burbs.

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Patrika Darbo, Yeah, he's Art's wife. Are you kidding me? No,

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I'm not kidding you. She played art wife in the Burbs.

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My cow, Yeah, my wife is Oh I didn't. I

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never knew that she was in the Burbs, man, because

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you know, she's the annoying wife to the annoying husband

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and they're both in office space. Because remember she's the one,

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you know, no Milton to pass it down or whatever,

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casting it down Milton, yeah, you know. And then he's

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a jump to conclusions guy, who you know, what is

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it you say? You actually do here? He's like I

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talked to these you know, don't you understand?

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Just like.

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Yeah, she is, man, I know.

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And there's two people. I gotta point them out, because

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everything comes back to Star Trek.

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Oh, here we go. Richard Real he was in.

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Star Trek Enterprise, he's in Star Trek Voyager, and he

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was in Star Trek and Mixtortion.

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And Jeff he was the quarterman after in Glory. Oh yeah,

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he was such a dick in Glory. Yes, he was

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the one withholding their supplies.

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And of course I know we're going to get to him.

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But of course, Tony Todd two episodes of Deep Space nine.

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But he also played Kerrent in Star Trek the Next Generation.

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Look at you just stepping all over the cameos section. Hey, sorry,

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you know, everything comes back to Star Trek, man, I

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gotta mention that. I listen, I gotta I gotta tell

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you something about everything coming back to Star Trek. I

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haven't confirmed it, but I believe I found the episode

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the first time you said that when you when you

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start pointing that out, Yeah, if you listen listeners, if

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you're on Spotify and you're listening to a podcast and

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then the episode ends, a lot of times it'll just

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randomly just jump to another one from the same same company.

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The other day, one one of ours had finished. I

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was actually Dave, I was listening to Phasers, So I

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guess it does all come back to Trek, but it

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randomly chose are from Dust Till Dawn episode m hm

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that we did for nineteen ninety six, and in that

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we're talking about some of the cast and you you

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say the the the iconic line. Well, hey, you know

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it does it always comes back to Star Trek like

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you were talking about someone and then you said that,

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like you were pointing out that they were in Star Trek.

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So I'm pretty sure that's the first time that was.

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That was the nineteen ninety six series. That's been a

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couple of years, so it has been. Yeah, I have

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to I have to believe that's that's the beginning. But uh, anyways, uh,

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moving past the nostalgia, anyone you guys wanna you should

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we us spend some time talking about anyone in particular

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as far as uh, this cannon fodder that gets uh

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hack the pieces. I didn't think you would. But yeah,

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all right, well let's let's talk cameos, because I want

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to find out who's cameo you guys enjoyed the most so,

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and it's a who's who of of horror folks. The

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movie opens in the swamps with a father and son,

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father played by Robert England and the son played by

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Joshua Leonard of Blair Witch Project fame, and uh, dave

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you already mentioned Tony Todd. Uh he's in town as

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Reverend Zombie one of these little occult shops. Let's be honest,

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he is playing a Scooby Doo villain. He is. I

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love it too, I absolutely love it. And then one uh,

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one casual fans might might not not catch uh. There's

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a really crazy character in this movie called Jack Cracker, Yes,

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played by horror director and effects master John Carl Buckler. Yeah,

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just a bit, he yeah, yeah, he's listen. He does

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the he does the makeup on the movie, which I

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know we're gonna talk about the makeup and the effects

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here in a minute, but I gotta say he you know,

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when they're like, yeah, that's you know, he's he's trying

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to warn them from going out on the on the

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on the water. And then the tour guide he's all like, ah,

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that's just that's old Jack Cracker. He he just says

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crazy ship and he drinks his own piss, and you're like,

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why would you say that? And the poor guy is

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trying to warn them and he's trying to save their

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lives and then he you know, he fails to do so,

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and he drinks some piss.

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That's my favorite thing is he just pulls the jug

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and takes it.

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They enjoys it. Yeah, he could. He could have pulled

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up like a mason jar and you could have You

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could have just assumed, like you could have wondered like

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is that that No, that's not piss, that's probably moonshine. No,

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it's one of those medical grade hospital. You know, I

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can't go I can't get to go the bathroom, so

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I need the p jug type type. But again, this movie,

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it's it scenes like that aren't cluing you in the south.

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The score, the the score of this is definitely telling

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you you're supposed to have little fun with this, you're

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supposed to laugh where you know, you might get there's

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gonna be some good jump scares. But this is not

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the Exorcist, this is not sinister. It's now you're just

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having fun. It's a it's a fun slasher movie.

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Yeah yeah, I mean they literally open with Marielon Manson

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after that like opening scene, and it's yeah, yeah, it's it's.

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It's an odd choice having Maryland a Marilyn Manson song.

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I'm not I'm not against it, but I'm also kind

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of wondering, if D Snyder's your buddy, how come D

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Snyder's not doing the music.

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That's a good question.

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Hey, you never know. I mean maybe maybe D's busy,

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or maybe he does want to impose, or I don't know,

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but who knows what it's a what's the song? Garrett

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is a this is the New Ship? Right?

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Ye?

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Okay? Yeah, you get the original and then you get

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like a remix for the credit sequence. You do interesting.

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Let's talk a little bit about the film. Uh, there's

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one thing in particular, I definitely want to talk about

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the main thing that I'm in awe of. Adam green

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An acts a no CGI rule, the makeup and the

460
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:09.200
special effects. Now, that's that's kind of unheard of in

461
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:13.359
the two thousands. It is, especially yes, especially when I mean,

462
00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:14.559
I know, I don't want, I don't want to step

463
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:16.759
on it, but I know we're going to talk about

464
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:21.920
some uh some of these kills. But the fact that

465
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.119
he is doing what he's doing in camera blows my

466
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:28.000
mind that there's no there's no CGI here.

467
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:29.000
Yep.

468
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:32.240
Well, we always talked about how much we love practical effects.

469
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:35.599
Oh yeah, I love that he went after practical effects

470
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:37.519
because it's a lost art. We've talked about this before

471
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.319
in podcast, and it aggravates me that everything is CGI.

472
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.039
I mean, you can touch things that was CGI. But

473
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.480
come on, man, let's go back to what made horror movies.

474
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:47.400
Horror movies use that practical effects.

475
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:50.720
Let's do it. The more we see Adam Green, the

476
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.640
more I'm hoping we're gonna get back to practical effects.

477
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:55.359
And you know, like I said, he's got John Carl

478
00:26:55.400 --> 00:27:00.599
Buckler helping him out with this one. So the technology exists,

479
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.119
you know, the craft is there. People can still do

480
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.079
this amazing makeup, these amazing effects that are that are practical,

481
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:10.680
and I just I just wish we'd have more of it. Honestly,

482
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.920
you know, we need we need I mean, think about it,

483
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:17.640
like you know Bukler, Slavini, boutine. Like these guys, they're

484
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:19.839
you know, they've been in the in the business for

485
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:24.480
for decades. Now. Yep, we need the next generation. We

486
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:26.759
did agree, See David, it does all come back to

487
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:27.759
start directly? How did that.

488
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:29.920
I do?

489
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:33.599
If you guys, I don't know if you guys noticed

490
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:34.960
this or not, but did you notice some of the

491
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:37.119
names on the tombstones in the cemetery at the end?

492
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.240
I knew, I knew I noticed one well. Sarah Elbert

493
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.200
and Cory Neil were both producers of the film. Both

494
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:46.279
of their names on some tombstones. But obviously Greens is

495
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:49.839
way there. Yeah, I believe if Marcus's body gets slammed

496
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.000
up against it and that says Green obviously in honor

497
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:54.440
of the director of this film.

498
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.240
Yeah, a lot, a lot of fun little East eggs

499
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.240
in this guaranty any East eggs that you can hot, like,

500
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:04.480
I mean, like nods, nots other horror films.

501
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.480
Honestly, no, I just kind of get sucked into this

502
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:13.519
one just because the splatterhouse and the special thing. Yeah,

503
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:16.119
the practical effects I should say in this film.

504
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:18.680
I'll say the one that was very big to me

505
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:24.920
was the ending scene when they they believe they believe

506
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:28.000
they've they've killed the killer. Yes, and they get in

507
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:30.079
the boat and they kind of it slowly drifts out

508
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:34.519
in the middle of the open water. The music, I mean,

509
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.319
he that the guy that wrote the music is doing

510
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:42.440
his damnedest not to not to flat out copy Harry

511
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:46.160
Manferdin's Friday thirteenth score. It is pure, you know, and

512
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:48.400
even even Crowley comes up out of the water. It's

513
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:50.640
it's such a fright thirteenth moment. I love I love it.

514
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:51.640
But it's a good twist on it.

515
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:54.599
How they did it, oh gosh, yeah, yeah, she was

516
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:56.480
underwater looking up and then what happened.

517
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:58.440
I think that was a cool twist. But they were

518
00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:00.319
clearly that's what you were doing. Come on.

519
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.279
Yeah, And I find this interesting too. I believe they

520
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:06.680
tried to get Daniel Harris. They wanted Daniel Harris right,

521
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:07.799
but he didn't.

522
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:08.480
Want to go that route.

523
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.559
She obviously takes over the role of Mary Beth, I

524
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:17.759
believe later on. But you really can see Daniel Harris

525
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.720
played this role. You could that, okay, I mean I

526
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.720
feel it anyway when I'm when I'm seeing Mary Beth acting,

527
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:27.119
I could have swore that would be Daniel Harrith, no problem.

528
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:32.119
Well, okay, so for what it's worth, Amara Zargoza, who

529
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:35.400
plays Mary Beth, I thought she's she's pretty good. I

530
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:36.400
thought she has a great job.

531
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:38.000
Yeah.

532
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:40.279
Ye Now, and it sounds you know, it sounds like

533
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.000
you guys have seen the other movies where I haven't.

534
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:46.559
So I did read that he was gonna have Daniel

535
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.160
Harris until he realized he did. He didn't want to

536
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.839
feel like he was stunt casting over the top because

537
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:54.240
he's already got Kane Hotter and Robert England and Tony

538
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:57.400
Todd and Joshua Leonard. I mean, he's he's cramming so

539
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.279
many people into this movie. So I heard that he

540
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.400
he pulled back on that, and that's how you get

541
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.119
this young lady. But then I also heard that she

542
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:10.680
willingly chose not to be in the sequel. Yeah, and

543
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:15.279
that's so Daniel Harris does take over the in the role. Okay,

544
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:19.680
how convenient is that that they You know, she bears

545
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:22.960
a striking resemblance to the other actress, so she does

546
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:25.759
all right, Well, now, I'm definitely excited to see because

547
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:26.480
I love Daniel Harris.

548
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.400
So one thing that is kind of like a nod,

549
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.279
just like the key Key mom thing that's happening in

550
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.759
Friday the thirteenth when Jason's essentially being channeled because it's

551
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:43.079
shortened from kill for Mommy and all that. Just like

552
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:46.519
how he keeps saying ditty in the distance with his

553
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:49.279
voice and everything. I feel like that's kind of like

554
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:52.400
a homage to the Friday thirteenth. I guess that is

555
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:53.960
one of the ones I may have picked up on

556
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.839
subconstantly not pay attention to it, but yeah, I think

557
00:30:57.880 --> 00:30:58.200
you're right.

558
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:03.960
Well, one more thing about the makeup effects. So we

559
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.640
get a flashback, you know, we we're gonna we're gonna

560
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:11.039
learn how Victor Crowley became Victor Crowley, right, and it's

561
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.440
a sad story, which I dig. The fact that his

562
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:17.279
father is played by Kane Hodter. Yeah, you know, signs makeup,

563
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:25.160
But this really surprises me. The person playing young Victor

564
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:32.720
Crowley is actually a very beautiful young lady named uh

565
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:36.799
Leiah Vanderbilt, model and actress.

566
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:37.680
Yep.

567
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.640
So when when Buckler needed someone to test makeup effects on,

568
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.799
she actually volunteers, and because the prosthetics have been molded

569
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.240
to her face for test shots, she just ended up

570
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:53.400
playing the part. Yeah why not. Now, if you're wondering

571
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.720
like I was, why is a young beautiful model just

572
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:02.680
hanging out uh, pre production on a film like Hatchet?

573
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:07.000
It just so happens. The woman that Adam Green married

574
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:12.480
in twenty ten, where Dee Snyder was officiating, was really

575
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:16.960
a Vanderbilt Yeah. Now, cool story. Yeah, when they were

576
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:20.200
both struggling to kind of make their break, they both

577
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:24.200
worked at the Rainbow Bar and Grill in Los Angeles,

578
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:30.279
which I definitely recommend if you ever in La go

579
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.839
to this place. It's awesome. I had a great time

580
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:36.799
when I was there. But yeah, they both worked there

581
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.559
and that's where they met.

582
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:43.720
That place right there. Lemmy Killmeister absolutely loved hanging out there,

583
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:44.720
which is crazy.

584
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.839
There is last time I was there up with Brad Kozo.

585
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:54.039
Actually we were there. I was in town visiting. We

586
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.400
go to the Rainbow and they actually have this was

587
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:01.920
after let Me's passing. They've got a full size statue

588
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:06.240
of Lemmy there that you can you know, obviously you

589
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.559
can see here, take your photo next to you. That's

590
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.160
pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, awesome place. And yeah that that's

591
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.519
that's that's where they met. That's how she shows up

592
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.400
on set. That's pretty amazing when you watch that creepy, sad,

593
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.039
disfigured ghoul of a kid, you know, because it is

594
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:24.559
a little it's a heart. It's a little bit of heartbreak.

595
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.400
I'm like, come on, leave the guy, leave the kid

596
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.200
a loon. But yeah, underneath all that makeup.

597
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:34.680
I like the storyline of how he essentially died from

598
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.279
a broken heart. After that, like it didn't just tear

599
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:38.839
tears at you a little bit more.

600
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.599
It's like just a little bit, just a little bit.

601
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:43.880
It was a Burton moment. It felt like didn't it?

602
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:45.599
Oh it did it really did?

603
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.960
Sitting there covered with a blanket looking out a window,

604
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:51.599
dead stare. Yeah, I can see that.

605
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:59.920
Oh man, Tim Burton's hatchet. No disrespect to Adam Green.

606
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.839
We love the screen. Yeah, man, let's look guys. I

607
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:06.039
know we typically will do uh, we'll talk about some

608
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:09.119
noteworthy scenes and then we'll choose a pivotal moment. But

609
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:12.159
it's October. It's a slasher film. I said, we have

610
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.920
a little bit of fun. Let's talk about all the

611
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.280
kill scenes and then choose what we feel is the

612
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.880
best one. The best death is that it's gonna be

613
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.800
to death this film.

614
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:25.760
I know, I know.

615
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:31.079
Let's start though with our first on camera kill the

616
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.559
married couple. So they there, you know, they're at this point,

617
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.840
the boat has crashed. They get to shore. Mary Beth,

618
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.280
who we get, We get her origin story. She's actually

619
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.079
real quick. Not to get off topic, but this beautiful

620
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:50.239
young woman is actually related to the two Hicks at

621
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.519
the beginning of the you know, the the gator hunting

622
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.840
Hicks played by Robert England Joshulenna. I don't buy that

623
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.639
for one second. Come on chance, Chan, But anyway, she

624
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.480
points south that, hey, that's Victor Crowley's house right there.

625
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:08.280
He's real And when this obnoxious couple you go, you know,

626
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.039
because the guy, what's he do? He he falls and

627
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.599
Gator gets it. Gater gets it, gets a bite into.

628
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:18.039
Him, less up when he tries to run away.

629
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:21.000
There. Yeah, so she's trying to you know, the wife's

630
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.119
trying to get him up to the door. Help we

631
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.719
need help, and Victor Crowley explodes out of that place

632
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:35.000
like leather face in the Texas Chancel Masacreah, which we've

633
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:39.679
seen Jason Voorhes do that a time. Yeah, at Crystal Lake. Okay,

634
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:43.280
so let's talk about this first scene. First first first

635
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:47.199
kill scene. This guy is chopped in two mm hm

636
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.159
and it's several swings. It's not like he just cleaves.

637
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.280
I mean he has that hatchet. He's going to town

638
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.719
on him, like like in that trapezius muscle like in

639
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.559
between his neck and his shoulder. Yeah, and we're just

640
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:05.239
watching this body slowly split apart while she's screaming in terror.

641
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.960
That is, until her head's ripped open like like like

642
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:14.119
Beetlejuice style, because he grabs like he grabs her jaw

643
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:16.960
and the top of her the roof of her mouth

644
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.960
and just rips it apart, just rips her to shreds.

645
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.239
I like how the tongue just flaps up and it's

646
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:25.760
just going.

647
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:27.760
So.

648
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.440
So again, let's remind if you if you haven't seen

649
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.000
this movie, and you and you know, hopefully you know,

650
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:34.960
I'm sorry for spoiling it, but I mean, come on,

651
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:36.880
but we're watching this guy.

652
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:41.679
Get cut into two pieces, decimated, and this is real.

653
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.679
This isn't c G. I no, all practical effects, all

654
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:47.440
practical effects. What do you what do you guys think

655
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:47.960
about this one.

656
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.440
No, I mean it's a great kill. I mean, you

657
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.119
you hate to see somebody like you, you feel sorry

658
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:56.320
for somebody of that age and this couple who's just

659
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.239
obviously they're on vacation enjoying it and seeing that happen

660
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:02.000
to them, But it's a great way to get rid

661
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:02.800
of them really quick.

662
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:04.880
Yeah, it is.

663
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.039
I mean they're totally the sweetest people there are, and

664
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:11.400
it's like, oh, no, you guys are gonna meet it

665
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:12.079
pretty grisy.

666
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.079
Listen. Yeah, they're sweet, but they're kind of assholes, like

667
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.920
they're on the tour. Every time this guy says something

668
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.599
like actually, you know, like you know, like there's always

669
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.719
that one person in the group that's like, well, technically

670
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:29.199
this or actually I don't mean to correct you, but

671
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:30.800
it is.

672
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.159
Richard real is every Wisconsin dad ever born.

673
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.519
He definitely is. I Like when earlier when they're like, oh,

674
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.480
you're a movie Like they're talking to Joel Shapiro. They're like,

675
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:46.480
what movies have you made? And he's like, oh, you know,

676
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:48.920
by you Beavers and he's like yeah, like he says

677
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:55.960
like yes, as she's going no, no, no, we see you.

678
00:37:56.119 --> 00:38:01.159
Richard all right, speaking of Shapiro. His is kind of

679
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:05.719
short and sweet. He gets his head basically twisted. Yeah off,

680
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.480
just ripped right off, ripped right off. Yeah, but we

681
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:13.360
get that nice slow, you know, screw twist type action

682
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:17.400
of course until until until it's off. It's that one's

683
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:19.559
a pretty good one, it is, but I feels a

684
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:21.320
little rushed it was.

685
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.119
But come on, you've got to You got a lot

686
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:24.639
of death coming up, so we got we gotta move,

687
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:25.280
got to move.

688
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:28.960
Okay, Yeah, you talk about a classic ninety minute banger

689
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:30.480
here wet knocking.

690
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.199
Speaking of knocking him out, let's move to the third

691
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:38.320
the third kill scene. So our guide the little the

692
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.679
little Asian guy who's maybe from the Bayou, but then

693
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:45.159
maybe he's from Hong Kong, but maybe he's actually from Detroit. Yeah.

694
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.719
I had fun with this guy because like his accent

695
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.559
changes like every two minutes. Yeah, he's an absolute con man.

696
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.960
He's my favorite, he's your favorite. Yeah.

697
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:58.480
He's got a pretty gruesome death scene because Victor takes

698
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.280
a spade shovel, swings it like a katana sword and

699
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:07.000
hacks off his lower body. And then as he's just

700
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.480
stuck he's struggling on the ground, he gets that we

701
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:12.239
we're gonna put it right up to the neck and he's, oh,

702
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.639
I hate when this happens when you when you see this.

703
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.760
I don't know why this makes I don't know why

704
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.199
this makes a death scene worse, but when someone is

705
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.159
moments from it and they're like and they had that

706
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:23.880
last second pleading like no no no wait wait wait

707
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:26.119
wait wait, you know, like the worst one's probably saving

708
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:30.199
Private Ryne like that that destroys me. Yeah, with a knife,

709
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:32.119
like and the guy say no, no, no, no, no

710
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:35.880
wait wait wait wait this poor kid, Yeah, this poor

711
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.320
kid's like wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait no

712
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.440
he I mean Crowley puts all two hundred and fifty

713
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.840
pounds onto that size twelve boot and puts puts the

714
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.440
kid's head into the ground with it. That that one's

715
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.559
brutal because he's he suffered. He was torture, Like he

716
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:54.519
gets some torture and then he gets it, you know,

717
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:58.599
and he has to wait and watch. You know. I

718
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:00.159
like that one. I think that's a good one. But

719
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.039
what about the sander. Come on, okay, so sander. I

720
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:09.199
love that one. So the n Yu girl, she takes

721
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:14.960
a belt sander to the face and that didn't kill her.

722
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.800
She's like slowly trying to crawl away, and then he

723
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.440
picks her up and impales her on the shovel that

724
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:23.960
he used to kill the tour boat guide you did,

725
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.199
and you get to see her belt sanded face.

726
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.880
Now, my favorite thing, my favorite thing about that is

727
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:35.559
what he uses. That belt sander is a gas powered

728
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.800
belt sander, which does not exist. They created that for

729
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:43.639
this film. Are you kidding that there's no such thing

730
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:45.880
as a gas powered belt that was?

731
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:47.320
That wasn't.

732
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.599
I don't think he's gonna have that come on now, Yeah,

733
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:57.880
here's here's my question. Why does Victor Curley have a

734
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:01.000
belt sanders? You know what is he making out there?

735
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:03.119
You know what is he doing that needs a belt stander?

736
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:11.679
A live bit of carpentry? Yeah, okay, uh let's uh

737
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:15.440
n y you girl man her her I would I

738
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.239
would say her friend, but let's just let's just call

739
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:21.159
what it is, the other the other Bembo, the blonde

740
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:25.880
mar cities at McNabb's character. Again, I feel like we're

741
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:28.440
kind of balancing, like, hey, we're gonna give you a

742
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:30.440
really brutal, gory one. We're gonna take our time and

743
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:33.079
then we're gonna give you a quick, a quick one,

744
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.119
just just like you said. You guys said, we got

745
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.559
to knock him out. She kind of gets hacked to pieces.

746
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:41.360
And the what I love about though, it's not that

747
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:43.880
she gets hacked to pieces. It's the fact that Victor

748
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:48.679
Crowley takes parts of her body and throws them at Ben,

749
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.360
like when he's trying to like antagonize Ben or stop

750
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.880
Ben from running, he's he's throwing body parts. Yeahs her

751
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:59.360
head and then they're like a torso. Yeah, it was great. Oh,

752
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.559
it's so good. It is absolutely so good.

753
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.920
Uh, moving on, hold real quick side note, Mercedes McNab

754
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:09.199
is the paint in that this little girl from Summer

755
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:11.920
Camp from the original Adams Family.

756
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:18.800
Yeah, that's yeah, the girl scout the bitch yeh wow.

757
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:25.079
Well good for her. She she did, she grew up.

758
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:30.880
I'll mind what I say before we move on to

759
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.159
to Marcus's death scene. Though. They take they take a

760
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:40.400
minute to set Victor Crowley on fire, which I love.

761
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.000
It's they're successful and then the thunderstorm hits and they're like,

762
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.199
what didn't mean gotta be kidding. Yeah, that's where we

763
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:50.719
get the line. I gotta wonder though, because we know

764
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.679
Kane's had some had some troubles in the past with

765
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:57.639
fire stunts. Yes, I wonder. I wonder if he did

766
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.199
this one. I wonder if that was him in in

767
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.119
scene or if they if they had someone else, because

768
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:03.840
I didn't, I didn't see it, and I would and

769
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.239
I'm not taking anything away from Kane. He probably did

770
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.480
do it, but I would hope that, uh, if you

771
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:11.039
had the option not to do it, I would hope

772
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:12.760
that he would he would take it. But I thought

773
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:18.840
that's the first thing I thought of, was like, yeah, yeah,

774
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.719
but you know, we've been hanging, We've seen him, we

775
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.119
found out with him several times, so we know he's

776
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:27.760
all right. It's you know, But moving on Marcus. I

777
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:31.079
this is another one. I love. Marcus gets his arms

778
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:36.119
ripped off mortal combat style like he's Jack's and and

779
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:39.280
then he slammed into that mausoleum for the Green family.

780
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:42.880
And it's not just like it's not like Jason Vore

781
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:47.280
he's taking the girl in the and the sleeping bag slam.

782
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:50.719
I mean he about just he basically destroys this this

783
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:56.079
guy's body. I think it's this stone mausoleum explodes. Yeah,

784
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:03.199
fake you know the thing we're missing. Yep, that one's

785
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:06.679
a good one. And then, uh, do we want to

786
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.679
save the we do? We want to add the the

787
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.320
the end right here? Do we want to save that one?

788
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.360
Let's add it here. Yeah. Well, we talked about the

789
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:19.760
Friday thirteenth homage, you know, so crowdy, Dave, you want

790
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:21.000
to set this well up, set this scene.

791
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.360
Up for us. So obviously they're floating away, escaping, well

792
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:28.639
they think they're escaping, and Crowley comes up out of

793
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:32.639
the water and grabs Mary Bath and Yankster underwater. So

794
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.199
basically obviously Ben's looking for her, freaking out, not going

795
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.000
into the water. He's reaching in trying to grab her,

796
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.000
and then we go underwater with her, basically what we do.

797
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:44.800
And she's, you know, obviously stuck on some limbs or

798
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:47.360
some trees brushing under the water and can't get out.

799
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.360
She looks up, she's a hand coming down under the

800
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.239
water to get her, so she reaches up and to

801
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:54.679
get it, comes up out of.

802
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.159
The water to only realize that Ben's arm has been

803
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:02.559
ripped off Crowley. Is it? That was awesome? By the way,

804
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:07.920
it was. Yeah, just when you think Ben's gonna make it. Uh,

805
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:12.039
he definitely does not, and we we get yet another

806
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:18.159
limb detachment, which is just this movie is full of them.

807
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:21.880
This movie is, let's be honest, this movie. I don't

808
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:24.360
know what do we have more of arms and legs

809
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:27.559
being severed or girls flashing their boobs because it's it's

810
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:35.159
the big easy and like one of those. So well,

811
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:38.840
I won't butt you on the spot and make it clarify.

812
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.960
But yeah, we talked about Ben. He's kind of the hero,

813
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:49.320
but maybe he's not. I'm a little bothered by this.

814
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.440
When the final girl gets pulled into the water, shouldn't

815
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:56.920
you jump in after her? He's basically leaning on the boat,

816
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:59.360
going Mary Beth, Mary Beth.

817
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.000
He was the damsel in distress.

818
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:07.039
Okay, yeah, okay, you're right, you're right, all right, I'm

819
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:08.000
picking on Ben too much.

820
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:11.599
I think, Hey, I met him two years ago. He's

821
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:12.119
a great guy.

822
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:13.280
Oh you met Joel?

823
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.440
Yeah, yeah, it's super polite. Yeah, it's the time me,

824
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.800
Nate and Ben dressed up as a leather face Michael

825
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:21.840
Myers and ghost face.

826
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.760
Oh you got that cosplay was amazing. You guys looked fantastic,

827
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:27.599
especially Ben. I'm not talking about Ben the character, but

828
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:29.119
I'm talking about Ben, our friend.

829
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:30.039
Uh.

830
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:34.880
Ben's leatherface is perfect. I mean he was almost like

831
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.400
I would, I would Studio should cast him right now

832
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:43.079
for the next night. Yes, absolutely, I will say this

833
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:47.079
about Ben the character, not our buddy talking about these

834
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:51.199
cool death scenes. I will give Ben this credit. Uh,

835
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:55.480
they're they're almost to the boat. Crowley hurls what is it,

836
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:58.480
like a piece of the wrought iron gate from the cemetery. Yep,

837
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.280
hurls it at him like a jazz and it lands

838
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.920
in his foot. And as he's charging like a bull,

839
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:10.920
this guy pushes he like bends the the rebar. Yeah,

840
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.280
which is gonna cause him excruciating pain, but it's just

841
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:19.440
enough of an angle to impale uh Victor Crowley. That's

842
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.000
an awesome moment too, it is.

843
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:26.079
And then when Victor Crowley, of course it you know,

844
00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:29.480
impales him in the shoulder neck area. And then the

845
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:32.000
big exhale blood into Joel's faces.

846
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:39.519
Well, Crowley not not playing fair because even before the

847
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.239
blood spatter, cough, the death rattle, that when they're when

848
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.599
they're tussling in the cemetery and he's on top of him,

849
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:52.880
and that just I don't know. It's like a that

850
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:55.159
just comes out of his mouth and hits been right

851
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:57.800
in the mouth, Yeah, which cause into vomit. You know,

852
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:01.639
that's why he's got a vomit. But it's again like

853
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.440
we we need some splatter, right, we need we need

854
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:05.920
a little bit of splatter gore for a movie like this,

855
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.079
And sometimes the gross out stuff isn't you know, you're

856
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:11.119
we're laughing at the bodies being hacked in pieces, but

857
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:14.679
then when we see that slobber mucus slabber come out

858
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.480
of his mouth right into bins, I was like, I

859
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.760
was so happy. I was I was so happy I

860
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:26.039
had finished my dinner. So, guys, these are some incredible

861
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:30.039
death scenes, some kill scenes, if you will, all practical effects,

862
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:33.159
very realistic like that they are. Am I am, I

863
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:35.719
am I right to say maybe these effects shouldn't look

864
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.159
this real, this good in a movie of this caliber.

865
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.760
And I say that with all respect, of course, absolutely.

866
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:44.840
I think the movie had like a one point five

867
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:48.400
million dollar budget or something like that, so very relatively

868
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:52.400
small in today's day and age. So no for that budget,

869
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.360
the actors and as small of a team as they had, No,

870
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:56.719
it's it's brilliant.

871
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:01.559
It is. All right, Garrett, what is the best kill

872
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.239
scene in this movie, Hatchet? We've talked about all of them.

873
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:06.679
Let's let's talk about the best one. Now.

874
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:11.280
My favorite's gotta be, uh the wife getting her head

875
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.920
ripped in ha. That's pretty awesome for me. You like that?

876
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.320
It is? She damn near ends up looking like a

877
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.559
Beetlejuice character at the end of the day. All right,

878
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:24.880
that's that's not a bad I can even I can't

879
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:26.519
even say. That's almost like a combo because like her

880
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:31.280
and her husband at the same time, David, your your choice.

881
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:33.960
As much as I I much, I enjoyed it. It's

882
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:34.760
it's the standard.

883
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:39.320
Come on, comes the belt stander and just you know,

884
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:44.440
basically sands down her mouth, yeah nothing, and then picks

885
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.840
her up and impells her onto another person who got

886
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:48.719
killed by the shovel.

887
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:53.760
Come on that that? Yeah? Oh, there's so many good

888
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:57.800
ones there are. What about you, Jeff, I'm curious, you know,

889
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:01.840
I I I was really starting to think it was

890
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:06.719
gonna be the the shovel murder, the guy the tour

891
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.639
boat guide. But when Garrett, now that Garrett's told, like

892
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:13.079
explain like they created a gas powered belt sander just

893
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.159
so they could run a belt sander over this woman's face.

894
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.440
I gotta go belt sander to the face the NYU

895
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:25.519
girl who is not looking too good afterward. No, I

896
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:29.800
absolutely love it. Guys, let's take let's take one more break.

897
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.000
Unless you're listening on Patreon, because if you are, I

898
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:38.119
gotta I got a question for for David and Garrett.

899
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:39.719
They don't even know what I'm about to talk about.

900
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:42.559
But if you're not listening on Patreon, here we go.

901
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.360
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909
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916
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:35.760
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917
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:40.519
swag now, right, Dave, we do indeed, all right, welcome back.

918
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.199
Hopefully you guys have been listening to us on Patreon,

919
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:50.159
where we've been talking about one hell of a horror matchup.

920
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.239
That was. That was. I appreciate you guys. You guys

921
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.320
were you know, shooting from the hit there. You didn't

922
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:58.159
you were, I didn't tell you what we're doing.

923
00:51:58.239 --> 00:51:58.840
Yeah, it was fun.

924
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:03.199
It wasn't easy, but yeah, I'm still just I'm reeling

925
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:06.719
from the the uh how it played out, you know.

926
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:09.000
I just I just did not think you guys are

927
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:10.679
gonna make the choices that you made.

928
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:12.559
So I can't believe you put us on the spot

929
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:14.559
like that, I know, right, what the heck?

930
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:17.320
A couple of days from now, you guys are be like, hey, listen,

931
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.000
I kind of thought about it, and uh, you know what,

932
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:22.440
actually I would I would, you'll you'll go back on

933
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:28.400
or whatever? Sorry, man, it's it's out there too late. Luther.

934
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:32.559
Too late. The Patreon subscribers already heard it. It's too late.

935
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:37.000
Can't change it now. All right, back to Adam Green, Garrett,

936
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.719
I know the Patreon listeners. You you kind of dropped

937
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:46.079
a quick tidbit on talking with Adam Green briefly, if you,

938
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:48.920
if you would tell us, you know, have you met him?

939
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:50.119
You met him once? You made him twice?

940
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:50.679
Like what you know?

941
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:51.679
How was that? How was his?

942
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:51.920
How?

943
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:53.239
How is Adam Green in person?

944
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.079
So I met him at Horror Hound. I want to

945
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:59.440
say it was twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, somewhere

946
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:03.000
around there, and he had a booth set up right

947
00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:06.280
next to Caine Hotter and there was someone else there.

948
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:11.519
I can't remember his perishin, but so didn't see any

949
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:15.320
autograph photo prices on his table. Walk up to him

950
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:17.599
after I'd already met Kane and Perry and all them.

951
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:20.199
I was like, hey man, huge fan all that. I

952
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.679
was like, but I'm not seeing, like how much you're charging.

953
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:24.480
I was like, I'd like to have you signed my

954
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:27.119
hatchet poster, get a quick picture all that, And he's like,

955
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:30.079
oh man, no charge. He's like, I'm actually just here

956
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:33.360
to see the fans He's like, I'm actually just excited

957
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:37.159
to see what they're like, how my works impacted them.

958
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.480
He's like, I've got steel book copies of my films

959
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:43.000
like Frozen or any of the Hatchet series. If you

960
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.400
do want to buy those, absolutely fine. He's like, but

961
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:47.320
if you want to picture, if you want to talk,

962
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.519
if you wanted an autograph, He's like, oh, that's absolutely free.

963
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.880
So got just standing there, talked to him for about

964
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:57.599
fifteen minutes, which was pretty freaking cool, super down earth guy.

965
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.119
Told a lot of fun stories about working with Kine

966
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:04.039
and the rest of the crew and stuff. So I mean,

967
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.760
if I didn't already love his work, I would have

968
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:11.760
loved it like one percent more walking out of that,

969
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:14.719
which I do because he's a great freaking guy. I've

970
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:16.920
gotta tell you, David, we have.

971
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:19.920
We've been on the concercuit for like the last couple

972
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:22.360
of years now, and every year we're like, Okay, we're

973
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:24.079
not gonna, we're not gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna dial

974
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:26.079
it back a little bit, and then the following year

975
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:29.599
we like double the amount of cons were hit. And

976
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:32.480
ever since we watched Hatchet, you know, because we kind

977
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.840
of came late to the game on Hatchet. We've been

978
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:38.079
hoping to see this guy at a con, you know.

979
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:40.239
We we we you know Horror Hound, which is uh

980
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:44.000
which is originated in Cincinnat, Ohio. Uh, Scarefest, which is

981
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:50.079
just maybe the super Bowl of horror cons. Uh yea, yeah,

982
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:53.039
you know, Dave we we we were talking to west

983
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:56.400
Forsyth just just a couple of weeks ago, you know,

984
00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:58.800
talking about as we as we as we prepare for

985
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:03.480
scare Fest. But the more I read about Adam Green

986
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:05.920
and his fans, like what he what he thinks of

987
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:10.559
of the fans. Mm hmm. This guy he thrives on

988
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:14.320
on on fan interaction, Like he like I read it.

989
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.800
I was reading up on him. Everyone that read that

990
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:19.679
comments on his social media or sends him emails or whatever.

991
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:21.719
So he says like, hey, there's there's days where I

992
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:23.960
want to quit. There's days when I'm I don't think

993
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:27.000
I'm doing a good job. And you know what, that's

994
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:28.639
when I read the emails, That's when I read the

995
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:31.400
social media post. That's when I open letters or I

996
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.400
you know, and I I see what the fans do

997
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:36.639
and I see what they say. And he goes that

998
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.679
gets me going at tells me I'm I'm doing a

999
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:43.000
good job and I need to keep going. So I am.

1000
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:44.920
You know, Garrett, I I love that you got to

1001
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.039
talk with him the way you did, and I can

1002
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:49.119
only hope that the rest of us get to get

1003
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.599
a shot to have a conversation with him. Yeah. Well,

1004
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:56.400
that said, if someone was unfamiliar, if someone watches Hatchet

1005
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:00.199
and they're like this Adam Green, guy, give me, give

1006
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:01.719
me some more, like, Garrett, what are you? What are

1007
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:02.440
you gonna recommend?

1008
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:05.880
I'm gonna tell him right now, check out the film

1009
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:10.679
called Frozen. Not not the Disney film, of course, but

1010
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:16.800
let it go. Yeah, go check out Adam Green's Frozen. Such.

1011
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:20.840
I think it's a masterpiece. I think it's got great pacing,

1012
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:26.000
it's very uh suspenseful, and it's got some pretty cool

1013
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:29.840
scenes in there as well. Of course, of all four

1014
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:32.320
of his Hatchet films, Okay, that's.

1015
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.599
And uh Frozen, that's the one that's the thriller where

1016
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:36.280
the people are stuck on the ski left overnight.

1017
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:36.480
Right.

1018
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:42.000
Oh yeah, okay, all right, Well, I gotta you know,

1019
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:45.039
Dave pointed out at the top of the hour, you know,

1020
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:49.119
he referenced screamed that there there are certain rules, certain rules.

1021
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.480
There are certain rules. So I'm sorry, Garrett, Uh we

1022
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:54.960
can you can you can have you can have Frozen.

1023
00:56:56.559 --> 00:56:58.639
You can't have three more picks and then go with

1024
00:56:58.679 --> 00:56:59.480
the hatchets.

1025
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:05.000
Here, Okay, get you get three, I'll go Frozen, I'll

1026
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:08.800
go the first Hatchet film, and then I'm gonna go

1027
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:11.480
Victor Crowley because some of the kills in that fourth

1028
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:13.000
one are absolutely insane.

1029
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:16.440
All right, now here's where you're happy because uh remember

1030
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:19.599
they've seen Hatchet and they want to see three more. Like,

1031
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:21.679
what are you gonna Inrod, So you don't have to

1032
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.519
pick a hatchet? You can you can pick hatchet two

1033
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:24.079
or hatchet three.

1034
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:27.239
Now all right, well we're going round you know three,

1035
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:30.119
I'm gonna say three and four there Now you just

1036
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:34.639
what has Yeah, Dave helped him out.

1037
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:36.719
Maybe maybe maybe you'll get one of the other ones

1038
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:38.840
for him. What are you gonna recommend, Dave?

1039
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.400
Well, Frozen is a good one, so that's obviously a

1040
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:48.880
higher recommendation. His one of his earlier films. Spiral check

1041
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:51.599
that one out. Yeah, okay, you know it's one of

1042
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:53.519
his early films. And then I'm gonna have to say,

1043
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:57.639
I'll have to go with Victor Crowley for my third ye.

1044
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:02.079
All right, well obviously it's no no surprise, we're gonna

1045
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.039
we're gonna recommend this one. Oh yeah, but you guys,

1046
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:07.239
what'd you guys? Do you guys own this one or

1047
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:08.159
where you see it?

1048
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:12.079
As saw it when they first released it on is

1049
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:14.800
like Cinemax or something in like two thousand and seven,

1050
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.679
and they start streaming it pretty much instantly once it

1051
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:21.199
got released in the United States. But I own this

1052
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:23.639
steel book for film series now.

1053
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:28.559
Nice, So it's the whole collection. Yes, I gotta get that. Dave.

1054
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:30.599
What about you, Joe? Where'd you Where'd you catch this

1055
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:35.519
one to be? That's where I watched it?

1056
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:36.039
Yep.

1057
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:40.079
I love to be me too, me too. I feel

1058
00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:43.119
like be reaching out and you know, like, hey, let's

1059
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.559
talk sponsorship because we do a lot of love too.

1060
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:48.159
I will. I will tell you right now, Jeff, if

1061
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:50.440
you haven't seen the other ones, two and three are

1062
00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:53.960
free right now on Amazon Prime. Oh okay, the fourth

1063
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:55.800
one you're gonna have to pay for, but you know

1064
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:57.800
you watch two and three for free there.

1065
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:00.480
I'll tell you. I'm about to just go uh Sight

1066
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:02.920
Unseen and get the Still Book box set like you got.

1067
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:05.960
I love the first one. I'm like, and you guys

1068
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.559
already told me, like, Hey, Mary Beth played by Daniel

1069
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:11.559
Harris moved forward, and you mentioned Derek Mears in the

1070
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:14.320
second one, So what you know, what's not the like?

1071
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:17.280
I mean, you've got more Tony todd in the second one.

1072
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:21.239
You've got Tyler Maine, You've got Derrick Mears. All four

1073
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:28.119
films have Perry Shinn and I'm playing different He's back

1074
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.159
every time. Yes, and my new.

1075
00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:37.119
Favorite, my new favorite Scooby Doo villain. Uh, the Reverend Zombie.

1076
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.280
Tony Todds is in all of them? Is he still

1077
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:40.440
playing the Reverend Zombie and all of.

1078
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:43.199
Them in the second one? He uh, that's the last

1079
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:46.280
when he's in. I gave Sheridan's in the fourth one,

1080
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:50.960
which is awesome. In that one, what's her name, FeliCa Rose?

1081
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:55.239
I think, yeah, she's in the fourth one. Yeah. Yeah,

1082
00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:58.159
So they've they've got a pretty good cast across the board.

1083
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:04.360
Definitely a lot of cameos throughout all four films. And yeah,

1084
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:06.199
they're worth checking out for sure. Ye.

1085
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.880
Well, I definitely am gonna check them out. Listen if

1086
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:11.960
you're a fan of slasher films that lean into the

1087
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:14.639
splatter as much as they do the comedy. The Hatchet

1088
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:16.840
series is a great one to watch. And I say

1089
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:18.440
that just with the first one, but you guys have

1090
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:21.639
have already sold me on the whole series. And one

1091
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.880
more thing fun fact about Adam Green. Guys, he has

1092
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:32.400
got one of the biggest and most popular podcasts. He's

1093
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:36.719
he's in our world too. He co hosts a podcast

1094
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:40.000
called The Movie Crypt with his buddy Joe Lynch where

1095
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:44.239
they discuss horror movies. So listeners, I know, it seems

1096
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:48.360
like every October our number Spike Dave, because we cover

1097
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:50.519
nothing but horror films, and we you know, we get

1098
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.400
a lot of people listening in. But listeners not the

1099
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:57.599
not to you know, show you away. But if you

1100
01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:02.480
want more, you know, Green's the Movie Crypt podcast is

1101
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:06.880
out there. Uh guys, he gets on average, there's he

1102
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:10.760
gets in between three and five hundred thousand uh downloads

1103
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:11.039
a week.

1104
01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:11.719
Wow.

1105
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:14.199
So he's a little he's a little bit bit, a

1106
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:18.280
little bit a little mister Green. We're right behind you,

1107
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:23.559
then we're coming, So we're coming for you. Oh man, Well, listeners,

1108
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:25.519
what do you think of Hatchett. Have you seen it?

1109
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:27.920
Have you seen the sequels? You can let us know

1110
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:31.000
on social media. You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, and x.

1111
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:34.320
You can check out a film by Podcast dot com

1112
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:39.199
for all the episodes streaming on the platform of your choice. Uh,

1113
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:41.920
there's some uh some fun articles there. We have, Dave.

1114
01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:42.800
We gotta get better at that.

1115
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:43.079
Uh.

1116
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:45.760
We we were writing a bunch and then we I

1117
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.360
guess we got busy going to cons and we did

1118
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:51.920
kind of a little bit. That's a right, that's sorry. Wayne, Wayne,

1119
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:54.679
Wayne's Waye's Wayne's gonna help us out. Yep. And uh

1120
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:59.760
and Angela who just joined the team not too long ago. Uh,

1121
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:01.480
she's like, yeah, I'm gonna write I'm gonna write some

1122
01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:04.840
movie reviews. So she'll be she'll she'll be helping himself.

1123
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:08.400
Yeah yeah, but check that out. Listeners. You can also

1124
01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:10.960
write to us at a Film by Podcast at gmail

1125
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.440
dot com with your questions, comments and concerns. We might

1126
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:16.320
just read your response on the show, and if we do,

1127
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:20.360
we will send you some of a film by swag. Guys.

1128
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:25.960
I want to thank you both for having a great conversation.

1129
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:31.039
Adam Green Caine, Hodter Hatchet and all all all else

1130
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:33.440
in between that we covered today. This was this was

1131
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:35.559
a fun one, man, it was. I knew it was

1132
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.159
gonna be fun because this is a fun film.

1133
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:40.800
Yeah. Absolutely, it's such a great film, and you know,

1134
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.639
just getting to talk about it with a few great

1135
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:46.880
gentlemen much like myself, it's a pleasure, honestly.

1136
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:51.760
Well to all of you listening to the show, following

1137
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:55.679
us on social media, subscribing to our Patreon with a

1138
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:58.239
step to the left and the step to the right. Uh,

1139
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:01.519
we thank you, and be careful walking on the sidewalks.

1140
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:07.400
M m m