Aug. 24, 2025
Anna Boden & Ryan Fleck - Freaky Tales
Jeff and Garret love a good anthology film. This week, they dive into the chaotic madness and freaky fun of Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck's 2025 comedic action anthology Freaky Tales!
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So the definition of an anthology film is a movie
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composed of several distinct, self contained stories, often connected by
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a common theme, premise, or director. So, Garrett, I think
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this type of film lends itself more to the horror
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genre when you consider all the greats like Creep Show, VHS,
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Cat's Eye, Twilight Zone, the Movie. But let's not forget
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we have examples like Sin City in Four Rooms. There's
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even a Yeah, there's even animated films like Heavy Metal
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and Fantasia. So yeah, I myself, I love a good
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anthology film. Do you happen to have a favorite?
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Oddly enough? I really enjoyed the All Hollows Eve films
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one and to you, I mean, I thought they did
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a pretty amazing job. And if I'm not mistaken, that
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is where Art the Clown ended up coming from. And
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that's what brought us Terrifier.
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You gotta be kidding. I didn't even realize that there
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was a Are you saying that there's like a movie
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before the first Terrifire that introduced him.
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There, they're sure is all Hallows Eve. Yeah, go ahead
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and check that out. There's a little segment in there.
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And then I believe the second one is where it's
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a breakthrough performance for him.
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I'm definitely gonna check that out because, uh, I mean,
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we're getting summer's about over and we're getting we're getting
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into the creepy months.
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So oh yeah, I want to say the first one
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takes place a kid gets gifted a VHS tape during
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Trick or Treat, goes home, watches it with mom, and
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then of course pandemonium starts.
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All right, I'm looking that one up. I would have
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to think that the the Goat might be creep show
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for me.
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Oh by far.
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Yes, we're talking to the anthologies. Let's let's talk about
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a film by Anna Bowdin and Ryan Fleck there twenty
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twenty five underrated comedic sn anthology film Freaky Tales. Hello everybody,
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and welcome back.
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I'm Jeff Johnson and I'm Garret Gibson, and.
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This is a film by podcast so Garrett. Before we
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get started, I'd like to welcome our newest Patreon member
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and shout out how unbelievably awesome he is. Eric Dearth
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has signed up for our assistant director Tier and that
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gets him the stickers, the color changing stadium cup. We're
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gonna do a Patreon episode of his choice, and him
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being a new member definitely makes him awesome, but what
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makes him unbelievably awesome is the incredible gifts he sent us.
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So listeners, if you'll recall, back in June, we celebrated
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our four hundredth episode with something truly unique. We did
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an episode on Richard Donner's nineteen eighty nine film Batman.
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And right now some of you are saying, wait, that's
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not right. He didn't do that. Well, our episode came
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from the alternate universe, where he in fact did direct
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that movie. So go back and check it out if
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you haven't already, because I promise you it's like nothing
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you've ever heard on a movie podcast before. And Eric,
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who is insanely talented, sent us a full sized theatrical
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poster for this alternate Batman film. Garrett, you got to
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see this thing. It's just it blew my mind, man,
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it really did.
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That's actually pretty freaking cool, it is.
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And in addition to that, he sent us a special
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piece of movie memorabilia from the film, which again does
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not exist in our reality. And I won't say what
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it is because I don't want to spoil the fun. However,
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we are working on a special behind the scenes episode
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for our Patreon about the Batman episode, because frankly, a
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lot of you have had a lot of questions on
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what was real, what wasn't and how we pulled it off.
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I just thought, you know, instead of answering all the
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messages and the emails, maybe we just do have some
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fun to do, like a behind the scenes type of
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thing to show you how we created this thing. But
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we'll be showing off the amazing gifts that Eric sent
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us when we do that. So look forward to that
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here in the next few months. And oh, by the way,
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go back and check out our Michael Mann episode on
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Collateral where we invited Eric Dearth to join us. So
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great to have him as a Patreon member. Great to
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have him on that episode. Gary, let's get to it.
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I guess some facts and a quote from this directing duo.
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Not a whole lot these they're they're kind of new
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to the scene, but I was able to dig up
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a little bit on him. So. Anna Boden's love of
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movies led her to take an intro to film class
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in high school, where she wrote a report on Robert
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Altman before heading off to Columbia University to study English
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in cinema. If Amber Lewis is listening to this, she's
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already just become a fan of Anna Boden because Amber
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loves Robert Altman obviously. Ryan Fleck, on the other hand,
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who grew up in Oakland, was always interested in the
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movie business after seeing his stepdad play a poker player
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in the John Wayne film The Flying Leathernecks. So after
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studying theater, acting, and directing at Diablo Valley College, he
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went to New York to study film at NYU's Tish
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School of Arts, which I think that's where Spike Lee went.
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I think we've talked about it is yep.
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Yeah, we talked about that school a couple of times
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on this on this podcast. Uh. It was at NYU
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where Boden and Fleck met. She was taking a summer
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filmmaking course and he was working in the film editing department.
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They bonded over their love of Robert Altman movies, and
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that's what made them decide they wanted to work together.
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Nice Okay, So, and they've been kind of like a
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packaged deal ever since.
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I like, yeah, all their stuff, they're they're together on
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fun fact for you, before James Gunn was chosen. They
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were heavily considered by Kevin Feike to direct Guardians of
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the Galaxy.
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Oh man, uh not to not to say that would
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have been a bad move or anything like that, but uh,
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I'm a big fan of James Gunn's work.
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Hey, listen, I'm not I'm not even gonna hold my
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cards close here. I love Freaky Tails and just seeing
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what this movie is, the craziness that's involved in this movie.
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I know they could have done a great job with
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Guardians and Galaxy, but I mean, James Gunn, yeah, I
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think I think he did. He did just fine. So ultimately, though,
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it was their discussion with Kevin Feige about Carol Danvers
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and her the Journey that they'd love to see her
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take which led them to getting hired to being hired
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for Captain Marvel. So, I mean, hey, we're gonna go
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another direction with Guardians of the Galaxy. But here's another
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MCU superhero.
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Film exactly a strong female lead and honestly is one
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of the first strong female leads that they had a
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standalone film with. So actually, big feather in their cap
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for him.
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Yeah, I got to give credit where credits due Captain Marvel.
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It did like a billion dollars. Yes, and I might
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need to go back and watch it. I've told you before,
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not one of my favorites in the MCU, but you
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know it kind of makes sense. But you know Ben
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Mendelssohn was was in when that and you know we're
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gonna see him. We're gonna talk about him a little
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bit in this movie. But uh, Freaky Tails. Anna Boden
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had this to say when when she was asked straight
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up like what is Freaky Tails? She said, quote, this
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is gonna be a mixtape of a movie things that
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Ryan loved growing up in Oakland in the eighties, things
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that we loved about the movies that affected us when
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we were young. I think there's a little bit more
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you could you could you could uh emphasize there, Garrett,
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for I know a lot of people have not seen
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this because it just came out. What can you tell us?
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What's what's the film synopsis that that Garrett Gibson would
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give us?
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Uh, this is one of the better horror anthology films
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that I've actually seen as of late. It's truly extraordinary
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in the direction and the pace that it keeps going
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across the four stories while also intertwining the four so
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I believe each story had their own kind of key
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point that it brought to the table. And I don't
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think this film could have done it without any of
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the four segments. So I believe it was actually done
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the correct way, And as far as anthology films go,
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I would rate this up there with some of the
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better ones.
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Film premiered at the Sundance Film Festival in twenty twenty four,
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before Lionsgate snaps it up releases it in April of
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twenty twenty five. It just became available on HBO Max,
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where you and I caught it. We got to talk
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about this opening credit sequence. We get the greeny picture,
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there's some tracking issues, that title font that you know,
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the excellent music, It's instant eighties nostalgia, and I cannot
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love it more. I think we're in for an hour
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and forty eight minutes of awesomeness.
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You're absolutely right. This just everything about it, how it shot,
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the direct it keeps the pacing, it keeps its very
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nineteen eighties, so it being set in Oakland nineteen eighty seven,
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it fits perfectly with any eighties gen that you want
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to watch.
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You know you mentioned there's four separate stories. It all
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gets set up by this title crawl, which is being
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narrated by eighties rap star Too Short. It's all about
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how wild Oakland was in eighty seven. There's there's mention
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of this mysterious bright green glow that's affecting things at
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this point. Were you ready for how chaotic and off
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the wall was gonna get?
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Oh, by no means and not at all. And just
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the first story it introduces you too. I mean it's
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a sucker punch to the face, is how quick this
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film takes all for you? And I've got to tell you,
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I freaking enjoyed that first story that they kick off with.
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My goodness.
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Well, let's take a quick break and then we'll talk
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all about Chapter one, Strengthen Numbers, also known as The
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Gilman Strikes Back. Welcome back. We are talking about freaky tales,
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and Garrett, let's get into a little bit of a
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chapter one. You know, we got four parts to go.
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Chapter one Strengthen Numbers, better known as The Gilman Strikes Back.
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So we open on this theater that's letting out where
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the crowd has just watched The Lost Boys and throughout
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the anthology, we'll come back to this spot a few
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more times, and each time we're treated to a little
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more of the marquee aside from The Lost Boys. Did
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you happen to catch the other films that we're playing
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that weekend?
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I did not know.
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Okay, So it's The Lost Boys, yep Ish Tar, Radio Days,
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Raising Arizona, Oh my gosh. And on the side it
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says coming soon Creep Show two.
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Dude. Okay, way to pay homage to a super classic
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anthology film there.
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Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna be a box office note
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here for a second, because I'm assuming that there's got
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to be some kind of connective tissue either between these
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movies or they're they're they're chosen for a certain reason. Yes,
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you mentioned, you know, Creep Show two obviously had awesome
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horror anthology. But here's the thing, if we're gonna get technical.
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The Lost Boys came out July thirty first, Ishtar came
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out May fifteenth, Radio Days came out January thirtieth, Raising
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Arizona came out March thirteenth, and Creep Show, which we
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see is coming soon, actually came out May first. So
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because I was all excited. I was like, wait, did
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all these movies open against each other?
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Right?
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Not the case? So that is not the case. I
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don't know. We gotta talk with Ryan and Anna and
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find out why these movies were chosen. But we got
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we got punk rockers versus neo Nazis, and it's all
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going down at the Alternative Music Foundation, a nonprofit, all
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ages Welcome, inclusive music club, mostly known as the Gilman
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because it's located at nine to twenty four Gilman Street, Garrett.
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One of the cool things about this movie is that
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each one of these little segments is steeped in reality.
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It's all about you know, yeah, Ryan Fleck growing up
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in Oakland in eighty seven, So these are real places.
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The Gilman well regarded as the place that started the
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nineties punk revival. I was actually surprised to find out
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that back in the late eighties and early nineties you
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may have caught such acts as Operation Ivy, which they
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mentioned in the movie, Rancid, The Offspring, and green Day,
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all these bands playing on stage at the Gilman.
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No way, Okay, that's actually pretty freaking awesome to see
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