Barbie Review

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You get more out of life when
you go out to a movie. I

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know I'm with the show. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the box

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office. I'm Jeff Johnson. David
Burns is on location and on assignment.

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And given the film that we are
talking about, I do not want this

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to be a straight up mojo dojo
cosa house, and I feel like our

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special guest today is gonna gonna bring
enough Dreamland to it. Look she she

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can't do brain surgery and she's never
flown on the plane, but she is

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anything but ordinary. I'm talking about
are lovable special correspondent for a fowned by

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Jenna Kozo. Jenna, welcome back. Thanks, thanks for having me.

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You know it's funny. Um,
there wasn't a lot of the regular guys

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knocking down the door to talk about
today's movie. But when I found out

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that you were you had already seen
it before me, I was like,

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I know who is going to talk
about this? So, Jenna, are

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you ready to talk about to talk
about Barbie? Let's break it down.

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This is Barbie Land. Hi,
Barbie, Hi, Ken. I can't

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believe how great this place is.
Let us show you ready for fun?

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Yeah, let's do this hold my
ice cream, ken, Wow, here

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I go. You can I sit
in the front Barbie July twenty first,

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waited thirteen. Jenna, let's get
right to it. It's not about this

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cast, is there? Could there
be anyone more perfect to play the role

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of Barbie than Margot Robbie. Oh, I don't know. I don't know.

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She's so beautiful. No, I
did too, I did too.

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Um, this is awful to say, but I think she's almost too perfect

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for Barbie. She's too Barbie,
She's too Barbie of a Barbie. Yeah.

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I know this sounds crazy, and
I'm not I'm not putting her down

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in any way. I almost at
moments felt it was beneath her. And

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I don't mean the role. I
mean, yeah, he's so Margot Robbie

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beautiful, and Barbie's pretty. Barbie's
always kind of like that perfection, but

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she's got the face. Margot Robbie's
just got this face that Barbie doesn't have

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in the same way. And I
know I'm being judgmental, but I think

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Margot Robbie's prettier than Barbie. That's
not a that's not a put down,

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that's not a slam right. No, I understand that she's just dunning and

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such an amazing actress she is.
Uh, let's talk. I want to

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talk about her her physicality in this
role, because something I picked up on

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was the physical um aspect that she
that she gets the role. I noticed

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quickly, like when when she's introduced
in the movie and she wakes up in

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their dream land house. Quickly I
noticed her movements are very doll like,

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like like Barbie's not a you know, look, I never I don't have

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I have zero experience understanding and experience
and how how Barbie dolls work. I

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know you probably have a good understanding. I do. I do, Jenna,

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my only understanding about fifteen years ago, sixteen years ago, I put

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together a dream house on a Christmas
morning for my little sister, So right,

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and that is the extent of my
knowledge. Those are very complicated.

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You are not easy. Now,
I get it. I got it.

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But her movements in this movie are
are doll like. You know, Barbies

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are not that articulate, you know, And I noticed, like, yeah,

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like robotic, Yeah yeah, I
thought that was sensational that she was

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doing that. Yeah, I thought
that was cool. I liked it too.

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I liked it a lot. We
got to talk about Weird Barbie.

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I loved Weird Barbie. My Barbies
ended up looking like I mean, we

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all get that. All girls went
through that phase. Or we shaved off

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the baby's the Barbie's head and we
rode on her face and we had her

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stretched in like open legs. So
that's not something that Gretig makes up.

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That's no, no, no,
not at all. No. We well,

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there's a point when you kind of
get sick of Barbie and you're probably

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in your preteens and you started cutting
off her hair. Um, I did

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it. All my friends did it. We I get it, I get

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it. We went through that because
remember Barbies like late eighties, early nineties,

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so that grunge thing was happening.
And yes, yes, that character

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was her fact spot on and Kate
McKinnon was perfect for that role. She

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was so fun to watch, just
owning that weirdness. You know, I

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loved it. I absolutely loved it. Uh Someone, I could not get

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enough of Ryan Gosling playing Ken or
one of the kids. I guess I

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should say not a fan of Ryan
gosl I love him, love him.

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I think he's excellent. He's excellent. He's but in that part, I

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don't know. I didn't I didn't
buy him as Ken. I don't know,

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I really I wanted and I can't
pull my finger on it. I

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just felt like he never fully committed
to it. Yeah, and it almost

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came across a little hokey though.
I do like Ryan Gosling. I loved

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him, and yeah, he apparently. So the story goes, he has

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sent the script and he goes into
his daughter, like his daughter's outside playing

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and he see he finds her ken
doll stuck face down in the mud and

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side and he responds and says,
I will play the part. His story

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must be told, so right,
No, Yeah, I like that.

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He had fun, you know,
he got to play they the happy kin,

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you know, and he and he
definitely goes a little bit on the

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dark side, a little bit on
the doucheback side, you know. And

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you see that in the trailer.
So I'm not giving thing. We're spoiler

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free here, so I'm not givingy
thing away. But now there's a lot

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of kins, there's a lot of
barbies, there's a lot of kins in

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this movie. How about Simu Liu, who's playing the I would say he's

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like the secondary kin, Like he's
like the biggest Kin aside from Ryan Goslin's

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Kin. Right. I loved seeing
him. At first, I was like,

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is that is that who I think
it is? And then I realized

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I was like that that's him,
you know that that I loved him.

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I just I wish we could have
got more of him. You know,

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he doesn't have a lot of speaking
role. Yeah, I have a lot

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of dialogues, so I mean,
which I guess maybe he doesn't need it.

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But right right, the Kens,
the whole play on the Ken's and

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the different Barbies is excellent, but
I'm sorry the Allen Allen. Now this

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is where you might not understand.
And I have no reference. I don't

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know, Oh I do Alan.
I think Alan was. I would be

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wrong, but I feel like he
was Ken's cousin or Ken's friend. But

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we had an Allan doll okay,
and Alan was like the second you know,

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kind of like second class Ken.
Yeah, because this movie they talk

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about Alan, who's played by Michael
Sarah and then uh, there's mother Barbie,

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Like was there Skipper Kipper? Ye? Yes again stuff that yeah Skipper,

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absolutely, but they were always like
less than Ken and Barbie, you

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know what I mean, Like Ken
and Barbie were the ultimate, and there

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was always any like new characters that
they would bring in would be a secondary

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character or okay, do not as
good looking, but yeah, like Skipper,

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I think she had brown hair and
she was a little bit quirky versus

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Barbie, who's this perfect? Okay, So there's a little lot of nuances

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that unless you really knew the nineties
eight the late eighties early nineties dolls,

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yeah might kind of miss you know. Okay, so you so you probably

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you probably saw a lot of Easter
eggs. Oh yeah, I wouldn't have

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seen. So Okay, Well that's
that's cool. That's that's good. Was

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brilliant casting. He was fantastic in
it. I absolutely loved his his role.

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Um. So Greta Gerwig, you
know she's she's kind of known as

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one of the indie darlings. Um, this is like the big commercial blockbuster

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movie hits like her first time out
with it. Uh, she's right,

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she's directing this. She writes that
she co writes this with Noah bomboch Um,

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which I found, um surprising.
And I gotta tell you the movie

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itself. I know we got spoiler
free here, Jenna. I went into

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this not expecting the movie that it
was a little bit of a there's some

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there's some I mean honestly, there's
some deep there's some deep story. There's

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a deeper story here. It's a
very deep um it went dark in certain

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places. Yeah, but um,
a very feminism um patriarchal versus matriarchal,

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um. Lots of very deep rooted
issues that are clearly there's an agenda,

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is what I'm saying. Like I
would, Yeah, I mean obviously,

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you know you can. I think
you can see it even from the trailer,

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like there there is a message about
female empowerment, right, but it

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and it and it works in this
film, And honestly, I think it

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works really well. I I dig
it. You know it worked. It

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was fun. I So you know, if that's like the main theme of

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the film, the female empowerment,
the the subplot, the comedian subplot where

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you know that that deals with the
patriarchy, I gotta be honest, Like

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they're definitely taking some some uh some
shots at at and masculinity. But I

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gotta be honest, I was laughing. You know, those jokes land perfectly

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in this film. I was kind
of chuckling because I was like, yeah,

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it's funny because it's true, you
know, it's it's it's yeah,

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you know, and this is this
is not the movie I expected, you

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know. I thought, Okay,
it's gonna be like a movie for little

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girls or whatever. This is Pg. Thirteen and the and the really cool

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story. You know, Barbie,
you know, has some issues. I

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guess we could say has to travel
to she has to leave Barbie Land travel

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to the real world where she's gonna
run run am uck with Mattel's CEO played

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by Will Farrell, who is just
the right amount of Will Ferrell in this

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movie. I think like they sprinkled
him in here and there, you know,

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I do. I feel like they
could have done the movie without him.

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Though I love my Will Ferrell,
I love Farrell. It had like

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an elf quality to it. Um, okay, that's fair. And when

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I saw his name in it,
I almost thought to myself, I think

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one of the things that makes this
a fun film to see this is it's

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bright. It's explosive, it's very
colorful. It's just it's it's eye candy.

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I mean, everywhere you look on
the screen, there is something just

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amazing. Like the set design.
They went out of their way on this

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one. I mean, if it
had a little extra music in it,

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I would have thought I was watching
like a Bas Lehman film, you know.

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Yeah, Yeah, absolutely loved it
when they were you know, at

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the first forty five minutes or so
of it was just so much color.

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Yeah, it's a lot lots of
color. And I feel like I was

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a kid in a candy store for
the first forty five minutes. Now,

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I don't mean the rest of it
I was bored or anything like that,

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but kind of adjusting yourself to the
pinkness the world and certain things in the

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set that I'm like, Hey,
I had that, I had that,

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I remember that, or yeah,
yeah, I thought they knocked it out

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of the park. Set design,
they knocked out the park. For music,

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I feel like they knocked out of
the park. I'm hearing a lot

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of music that I normally wouldn't hear. We talk about it. Let's talk

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about the soundtrack for a quick second
here, and Jenna. Some of these

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people I don't know, but like
I was like, oh, I like

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that song, because we're talking about
people like Billie Eilish. We're talking about

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Haye Lizzo, y um Nicki Minaj
is in there Aqua. The music's great.

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I gotta, I gotta be fun. The music was a lot of

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fun, a lot of fun.
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta

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give it to h Ryan Gosling here
though my favorite track, I'm just Ken.

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That song is fantastic. It is
it is the fact that it was

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a joke and was it supposed to
be part of the movie. And do

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you know do you know about this? No? I didn't. Oh you're

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gonna love that. So Mark Ronson, who does the score, made it

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was like a gay he wrote,
he gives a song to Gretit Gerwig,

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who gets a kick out of it. Ryan Gossling got ahold of it and

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was like, this, this will
help tell his story. Like Gossling is

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very adamant about giving giving Ken his
due in this movie. Okay, so

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he records it. Yeah, so
he and then he's like, hey,

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I want to record it. I
want to sing it. And it becomes

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this this great music number in the
movie. Yeah, And I was cracking

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up because like all of Ken's paining
his heartache, you know, it's right

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there. He's got a really nice
he's got a runs to the waist.

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Yeah, this movie has a lot
going for it. Um, Jenna,

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this is this is the big event. This is the biggest box office event.

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Oh my lord, probably since the
Avengers. You know, it's it's

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being called Barbenheimer. Um yeah.
And and let's you got to give the

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lady uh credit where credit is due, because Barbie as of this weekend,

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has brought in one hundred fifty five
million dollars domestic one hundred eighty two million

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were sis. It has definitely won
the weekend Oppenheimer. Now, look Oppenheimer

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going head to head with Barbie.
I think originally a lot of people thought

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this is gonna go the opposite way. And Barbie and Oppenheimer is a fantastic

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film. We did a review with
Dayton Johnson of docu Base seventy seven for

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that one. It did really good
too. They combined these two movies did

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five hundred eleven million dollars worldwide.
Right, that's that's amazing. And I

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gotta tell you the fun I was
at three different theaters this weekend, and

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one thing I saw at all of
them was a c of of pink,

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you know, and I'm talking like
it was Jenna, it's it's girls,

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you know, it's it's women your
age. They were all it's like girls

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day out. It was I saw
a bus pull up at an AMC and

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like twenty five little five year old
girls came out and they're they're sparkly pink

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stuff and the moms came out with
them and they were all dressed up.

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It's an event. And like the
lobbies, the lobbies in the theater were

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having. It was like loud and
it was like, I don't know.

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We sat down in Westwood and one
side of there's two there's two theaters and

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they're across the street from each other. One side was Barbie and one side

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was Oppenheimer, And it was just
so cool to see people going from Barbie

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to Oppenheimer and then back and forth. So people made a day out of

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it, which is kind of cool. It was, I mean, two

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movies that could not be further apart
in theme. Wait, oh my god,

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they were so different. Everyone's doing
everyone's doing the Barbenheimer thing. Jenna,

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I gotta ask you, um,
when it comes to Barbie, Jenna,

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are you gonna say what do you
what do you think? See it?

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Stream it or skip it. So
I have kind of a two part

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answer to this. If you're if
you're a guy and you know nothing about

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Barbie, maybe stream it because there's
a lot of nuances that you might not

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get and you might say I don't
get it. You know, i'd I

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don't know. But if you are
someone who grew up with Barbie, if

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you know, like the Skippers and
the Allens and the Beach Barbie, the

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difference between Beach Barbie or Beach Ken
and you know, uptown Barbie, there's

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a difference. If you're one of
those people, I say, go see

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it. Go see it. It's
fun, You'll enjoy it. I'll be

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honest. I am as Ryan Gosling
would say, I am kinough to say

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this is a movie you should go
see. I did not think I was

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going to enjoy this movie, but
I had a blast. I say,

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go see it. Definitely. It's
page thirteen. So it's one of those

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great things where the adult humor is
sailing right over the kid's heads. Right.

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A lot of the adults are like
cracking up in the movie, and

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I'm like, wow, they can
I can't believe they got away with that.

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You know, there's some there's some
language and there's some imagery. I'm

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like, yeah, yeah, okay, little kids don't understand that, but

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no, but I think the color
and the pink and the house, and

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you know, I don't get they
enjoy that part. Well, Jenna,

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we have missed you on the podcast. Yeah, happy that you you were

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able to jump in and feeling for
Dave on this one. Thank you for

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letting me come on and just gab
about Barbie. It's one else am I

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gonna get to do that exactly as
always? Uh, we'll buy the tickets,

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if you buy the popcorner, we'll
see you next time. It's so

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blite. But I'll sleep alone tonight
because I'm just king anywhere else I be

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changed. He is in my destiny
to live and life for love for you.

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I'm just king where he loves.
She sees a frank But will it

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take for food to see many