June 22, 2025

Carl Reiner - Summer School

Carl Reiner - Summer School
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Season 6A Film By...

How about a little more Carl Reiner to kick off the summer season? Last week, Amber and Jeff discussed his family vacation comedy Summer Rental, and this week, Jeff and Brad talk about their favorite Carl Reiner film, Summer School!

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Brad, we are in the dog days of summer. I

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can't help but think of all the poor kids that

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have been spending it at school. Did you ever have

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to go to summer school?

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No? I never had to go to summer school, but

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I have had to work summer school before. And yeah,

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and just to let you know, it isn't no longer

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called summer school. It is now es HY extended school year.

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Why the change?

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I think it's sound, you know, less degrading. I lest know.

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I don't want to go to es why. I mean

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summer school sounds a little more fun than es Why.

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Well, there's one thing that everyone will agree with about

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summer school is that no one ever wants to do it.

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I will agree, but I don't mind watching it. So

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let's talk about a film by Carl Reiner, his nineteen

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eighty seven comedy cult clae sic Summer School. Hello everybody,

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and welcome back to the a film by podcast. I

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am Jeff Johnson and happy to say Brad Kozo is

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with me.

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Uh, never call me that. My name is Chainsaw.

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As as in black and Decker's.

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In Texas Massacre.

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It's good to have you back, Brad.

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Yeah, And what a great fun movie to be on to.

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Yeah, this was your idea, like we The thing I

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always love is sometimes you will take you You'll pick

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a director that I'm like, who what you love? Going

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after these classic directors, these older directors that maybe a

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lot of our listeners are, you know, a newer generation

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doesn't know. But then you surprised me because the film

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you pick is always a phenomenal film or it's a

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surprising one. Like when you you know, you said Carl Reiner,

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I was like, I, what did he direct? And then

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you started giving me his lineup, and you're like, Summer School, man,

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let's let's talk about Summer School. Good choice. Bread. I

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could not wait to discuss this one with you.

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Well, I think I worked backwards on this one after

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like feeling like a certain films that we wanted to do,

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but sometimes we didn't know. And perhaps we were talking

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about the movie one day and I was like, like,

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I want to look that up. And I couldn't believe

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that it was Carl Reiner because I would always confuse

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it with Summer Rental, which he also directed, so I

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always no, it wasn't Summer School, it was Summer Rental.

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And then I was like, nah, he did two movies

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called this, so it just kind of like it was

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a happy accident. It just kind of fell on your lap.

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I'm like, oh, wow, that's a perfect one.

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Well, for those of us that haven't seen Summer School, Brad,

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what's it all about?

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Okay? Summer school is. It is the last day of

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school at Oceanfront High School and fun love and pe

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teacher mister Shoop is counting down the seconds for school

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to finish so he can take off with his girlfriend

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the Hawaii for the summer. Unfortunately, the school Summer School,

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where medial English teacher played by Reiner himself, has just

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won the lottery and baiales on his summer school assignment.

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When mister Shoop is given an ultimatum to either teach

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summer school or not have a job next year and

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must give up his summer to try to teach the

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misfits of Oceanfront High, hilarity ensues and I'm not being

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sarcastic at all, it really does.

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No. This is one of those eighties. I mean, the

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eighties gave us so many amazing teen and you know,

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some of them are are lighthearted and some of them

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are kind of raunchy. This one hits that sweet spot

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because it's it gives you the comedy that you want.

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It pushes the envelope a little bit, you know, because

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this is it's PG thirteen and it's about as close

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to an R rating as you can get. I think, Yeah,

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there's a couple of scenes and there's some themes where

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I'm like, wow, that Surprises wasn't rated R. Yeah, but

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it was eighty seven, so you could still get away

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with some stuff, right.

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Yeah, they get I mean they got away with a lot.

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I mean there's one F bomb in it. But but

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I think that's what makes it kind of stand out

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because during this time, everybody was kind of throat, kind

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of copying that John Hughes comedy with that really turnaround,

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you know, dramatic moment, and this movie was just just

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the fun part. It was just the hilarity all the

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way around. Still some heart, but you know, you didn't

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go too deep into it.

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Yeah, and even when you start to get a little

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dramatic in this movie, it's it's with a lighter touch

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and maybe maybe it shouldn't have a letter touch.

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And it doesn't last long.

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No, it doesn't last long, and I know there's a

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I know, thee some some things that we probably are

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going to have to discuss about mister Shuop and his

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practices as a teacher that maybe I don't They definitely

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wouldn't fly today. I don't think they flew in nineteen

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eighty seven either, obviously, but I don't. Do you remember

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do you remember the first time you saw this was this?

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Did you like? No?

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It was for me cable, you know, it could have

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been a rental. It just was one of those that

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was on a lot. But every time it was on,

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it just it would crack me up. And even during

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this this this viewing, I was just trying. It still

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surprised me how many times I had to laugh.

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Well, let's talk a little bit about this, uh, this cast,

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because it's it's a pretty it's it's a fun cast.

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You mentioned just in your synopsis, Carl Reiner does this

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great cameo at the beginning, you know school, the kids

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are counting down to the final minutes of the last

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day of school. Carl Reiner playing mister Dera Dorian is

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sitting there. He's got like a stack of scratchers.

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Right, Yeah, which I always say, You're never gonna win

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with scratchers.

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But well he did. So here's my I used to

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think about this. I understand it's nineteen fift I know,

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I understand it's nineteen eighty seven. He wins fifty thousand

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dollars on a scratch off ticket and then he says,

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you know, no, you know, you know. He goes up

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to gills. The principal says, you know what this means?

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No summer school? You know. Now, Here's what I'm wondering,

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because when I was younger, I thought you can't retire

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on fifty thousand dollars. But I'm this recent time I

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watched it, I look at it like this, and you

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tell me what you think. So at the time of

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this movie, Carl Reiner's sixty five years old, so he's

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he's at retirement age. So I'm I'm wondering, is his

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character working summer school because he's not ready to retire

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yet and he gets the scratch off ticket and there's

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his retirement, or is he working summer school because he

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needs the money and now he's got fifty grand so

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he doesn't need to work in summer school? Like, what

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what's your take? Is he retiring or is he just

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taking the summer off.

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They don't really say. It could be the first one.

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But if that character seems like he would have tenure,

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so he would not have he wouldn't have been he

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could quit summer school and not be punished for it. Okay,

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So it could be you know, that extra money or

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you know, just think so, yeah, it's either that or yeah,

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maybe it was just the last little bit he needed

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for retirement and he's once he get fifty thousand. But yeah,

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but yeah, it could after I thought about it for

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a seconds, like, no, that actually could happen. That could

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have you.

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Know, fifty grand in nineteen eighty seven, that's probably and

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again depending on how long he's been in and you

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know his tenure, I mean he's that's maybe what like

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a year and a half salary, two year salary.

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For no in eighty seven, that's like probably like five

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year salary.

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That's five years. Oh wow, Oh yeah, yeah, so he's retiring.

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I think I'm betting he's retiring. Then if he's sixty five,

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he's out. Yeah, you know, you know, even though Gills

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warns him, you know, I've seen when millions and go

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right back to bussing tables.

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They're freaking morons.

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Yeah, how about the nineteen eighty six is Sexiest Man Alive?

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Mark Harmon, mister shoop.

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You know it's funny that originally I agree with this too.

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If I was casting this movie, I think I would

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have picked a comedic actor, like a main, big comedic actor.

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But Carl Reiner saw something in this Ted Bundy movie

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that he did like one of the first Ted Bundy

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like TV movies, and even watching it, I mean it

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still does really work. I mean, obviously people know Mark

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Harmon for NCIS for years and years and years, but

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I mean, he really pulls off this. I believe it

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when he's always like taking off his shoes because you know,

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or just like he does look like the kind of

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beach bum. He doesn't, but he doesn't overdo it. You know,

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they could have gone real long hair, very surfer guy

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type of you know, almost like Spaoholi talk. They didn't,

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and I think that going with that I think really

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makes the movie work.

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Yeah, you're talking about the The Deliberate Stranger TV movie. Yeah,

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and played convicted killer Ted Bundy.

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I gotta wonder Carl Reiner he watches that and he goes,

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this is my guy, this is this is mister Shoop.

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So you know that's that's kind of weird how he

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got from point A to point B there, But I digress.

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We also have the very lovely Christially playing Robin Harris. Now,

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she had just come off of Star Trek two Rath

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the Common playing Soavic, and she had just taken over

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on Cheers rights like they had just.

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Play is when she started Cheers. So this was a

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big year for.

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Her, big year for her, right, and you know, she

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looks incredible, she's and she's a lot of fun in

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this movie. I think she is the perfect counterpoint to

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to shoot.

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Yes, I love it. It's a good it's a good fit.

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Yeah, they do that. They have that, they have that

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good will. They won't take chemistry through the whole thing

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because you you buy it. You buy them as as friends,

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but you also buy them as we want to get them,

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we want to get them together. So I think she's

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fantastic in this. You got Robin Thomas playing Gills. I

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don't know him from anything else that have you seen

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him anything?

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I can't. You know, he's I believed like a character actor,

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you know, I don't really know too much of his stuff.

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Okay, well before we get to the kids, one one

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last one we got to talk to and I think

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this is a good segue because I guess she's an adult,

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but she's definitely a kid. Uh Ammy Stock playing Kim

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Shoop's girlfriend that's on her way to Hawaii with him. Yeah,

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and you know, you know where we know her from?

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I don't. And she did look familiar, but I don't

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know who she's from.

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Well, uh, she is a very famous step mom. Does

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that give you a hint?

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Yeah, yeah, that's Ted your mom, dude.

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Yeah she plays. Yeah, yeah, she's She's Missy from the

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Bill and Ted Movies. Yeah. I was gonna say, like,

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I'm thinking, like, wait, is she Bild's stepmom or she

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Ted steps mom? And actually she's both because of the

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progression of the movies. So yeah, it's and it's again.

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I I've seen Summer School and then you saw you

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see the Bill Ted Movies. You don't put it together.

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But then watching again, when she comes rushing into the gym,

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I was like, I'm Missy, yeah mom, Like yeah, yeah, yeah,

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she's She's all over the place in California. She's dating

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all the right, guys, right, yep, I assume that she

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went to she you know, she goes to Hawaii, and

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maybe that's where she meets mister Esquire. Could could very

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well be, yeah, could be, could be. All right, let's

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talk about the kids, because you got some fun people here,

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and then you got some people that kind of kind

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of blew up because of this movie. So let's talk

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first Dean Cameron playing Chainsaw Rancis Grim don't ever call

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him that, you know, right, and one of my favorite

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from eighty six, Gary Riley playing Dave, So Chainsaw and Dave.

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Like the quote unquote Cisco and Ebert of the film.

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These two together really do work. They really do have

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a good chemistry together, and I think that's why I've

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liked the film for so long. I mean, in my opinion,

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they are the best part of this movie. I really

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love these two characters. They're always funny, They've got great

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banter together. They they look like they have some good

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improv together. I love the stuff they're into. I mean,

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I think these are two underrated performance you know, you know,

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a couple together.

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They definitely are, and I got, you know, you talk

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about their chemistry. I'm gonna blow your I'm gonna blow

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your mind here later on when we're talking, I got

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some some fun, some fun background on the movie. I'm

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gonna tell you who could have been chance On Dave.

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But a fun fact for you, Dean Cameron, while while

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they're looking for this movie to cast it, do you

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know what he's doing at this point in his career

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ski school? No, he got well, he gets ski school

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because of this movie.

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But he gets his foot in the door because and

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you mentioned this already, you mentioned the character. He's busy

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playing Spaccoli on the Fast Times at Richmond High TV show, ooh,

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could you match? Could you believe that like Chainsaw is

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Speccoli on TV? Mm hmm, that's crazy. I think another

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mega famous TV actress or she became she became very

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famous for TV after this movie, Courtney Thorn Smith playing

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a surfer girl, Pam. Mhm, What's what's going on with Pam?

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She's she's a little distant, she's a little.

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She's a surfer girl.

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She's with your parents, by the way.

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you know, she gives the whole story of living with

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her brother, but Courtney thorn Smith. I feel has looked

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the exact same for like twenty to thirty years, Like

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she's looked like she could be you know, she says

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she's sixteen in air, but you could definitely believe her

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is like twenty three, twenty five, oh, you know, and

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I feel like she's looked like that forever. But I

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think it was on melrose Place, right, that was her.

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She she she explodes in fame, in popularity because of

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Melrose's Place, grows up there and then I guess what

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was it according to Jim where she played Yeah, yeah,

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Jim Belush's wife. I know, you love those TV shows

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where average looking, slightly heavy set guys have supermodel wives.

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you're trying to watch a NFL you know, football game.

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Yep. Yeah. Uh. One of my fine one of my

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favorites of this one, Kelly Joe Minter playing Denise. I

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remember her from the Nightmare on Elm Street series, but

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she's fun in this one. I love she's got some

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of the she's got some of the good lines too

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in the movie.

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Yeah, you know she. I feel like I've seen this

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girl in There's stuff playing like this character almost Yeah,

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you know, I think it was like the principal, you know,

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the movie with speaking of Jim Belushi.

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Yeah, how about Shawnie Smith playing Ronda the she's the

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pregnant student. Yeah, goes on to I think it's fair

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to say she had quite a a nice career in

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the horror film yeah genre, you know, most notably she

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plays Amanda in the Sault franchise. Right, but I know

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she's she's done quite a bit so, but that's that

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would be her famous one. And then you know, I

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got a couple more here, you know, I don't I know,

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we don't have time to talk all about all of them, right,

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but we would be wrong to not talk about the

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very lovely, very beautiful Fabiana Yudenio, who plays Anna Maria Mazarelli,

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the foreign exchange student.

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Yes, just let you know we are recording this podcast

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and Anna maries on.

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Yes, that's good. Oh man, Uh, fantastic cast, Brad, Yes,

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I just lovelet you know going through the movie. So obviously,

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Shoot gets kind of blackmailed. U Vice Prisional Vice Principal

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Gills blackmails him into being stuck to teach remedial English

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meeting the class. I love the idea. They almost it's

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almost like he's one of them, you know. Oh yeahs

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like hey, mister shoe, are you in this class too, No,

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I'm teaching it. They're like go away party all the time.

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And that's actually Eddie Murphy's party all the time. He's

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doing my Girl Wants to Party. Yeah. I'm like, I

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was like, he's singing the Eddie Murphy Party all the

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time song.

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Brad, I know you you have worked, uh you have

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a little bit of background in the in the education system.

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I just you are mister shoop to me, Like when

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I when I found out, like, yeah, you're gonna be

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in a classroom, I was like, Brad's gonna show up

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and his visor and his his wine shirt. You know

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it's gonna it's gonna have his bagel.

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Definitely be the one. I would definitely be the one

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to cuss in class.

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Yeah, this is the teacher you want, right if you're

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a kid, you want mister sup is your teacher.

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Yeah, because it sounds like he's also the fun loving

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pe like I said, the fun loving guy and p

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so you they they all know him. They know his

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class is awesome. You know you know, you can just

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part around. But now he's stuck. You know, these kids

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have to pass this you know test or you know,

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he's not gonna have a job. You know. It's like

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and he's stuck. But in his defense, you know, what

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does he know about teaching these kids a remedial English test?

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You know that's pretty hard if you don't teach that

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specific tests. So he does have a very pretty hard

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job he does.

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But yeah, he's definitely not qualified. He even tells skills

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to see you know, I ain't no English teacher. Yeah,

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double negative.

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But then again it's like, but you are, because you

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already caught yourself on double negative.

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I just yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right. He does

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catch himself there. So I just think it's hilarious the

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way it starts off. He knows he does not know

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a thing about what to do or how to do it,

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and then he's all like, hey, you guys want to

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get out of here, go to the library.

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M hm.

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They're like, yeah, that gives us to one of my

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favorite scenes, and I gotta believe it's one of your

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favorite scenes. Chance on Dave asking Anna Maria about the

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Texas Chancel massacre and giving their their ciscol neighborate review

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because this is not one of the best scenes of

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the movie, I think.

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I mean, when you combine that and when they actually

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view you know, Texas Massacre in class, which would be

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the greatest assignment of all time.

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Absolutely absolutely. Uh.

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I don't know, have you ever gone up to a

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girl and you know that you know you found attractive

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and just said the first thing is have you ever

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seen the movie the Texas Chainsaw Massacre? You know, it's

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not usually the best opening line, but hey, apparently it

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works for Anna Maria.

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It does. It does. And Shoop is just you know,

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he I love the fact that he asked the class.

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He's like, well, what can we do? And I was like,

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we could go on some field trips. He's like, can

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we do that?

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Yeah?

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They all have permission slips, Yeah, Chase chains all yeah,

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I got I got permission slips right here. Let's talk

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about this for a minute, Brad. They go go kart racing,

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They go to the amusement park, they go to a

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petting zoo, and they go to the beach. So go

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kart racing. I know those places are all over the place.

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You're you live out there, Brad, what is this amusement park?

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Are they nots Berry Farm?

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Nots Berry Farm, not's Berry Farm? Okay, so the the

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world the musical park in the pettings, You're probably the

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same place.

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Then, or is it there's the one there?

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Yeah?

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All that stuffs there?

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Okay? Did you have you taken your students to not

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Sperry Farm bread you.

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Seem to know a lot about No, I've gotten there myself.

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It's fun.

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Yeah. Well that that uh that roller coaster that they

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on they call it the Screwdriver that suspiciously looks like

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the Vortex to me from King's Island. Yeah, is it

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the same one?

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You have no idea?

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Oh you don't.

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Yeah, but not in nineteen eighty seven.

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Okay, all right, all right, having a good time. And

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then we talked about Shoop maybe not having the best ideas,

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uh maybe not doing the right thing all the time.

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They're getting back on the school bus. Chance on day

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of like, hey, next field trip, we gotta go to

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the beach. We got to see Anna Marina bikini. He goes, guys,

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I understand, like, okay, I don't know about this.

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Man, like you know, I mean he said he was

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that age one time, you know.

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So yeah, because like when you're young watching this, like

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Shoop is your hero. But then the adult you're like,

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hey man, that's that's not cool. Come on, because the

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next scene they go to the beach. Yeah, the next

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the very next scene. Well I got some more on

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that here coming up. But you know, it's all fun

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and games until you get caught and Ikean's grandmother catches him.

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But you know, the you know, the.

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Heat is on.

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Gils is going to fire Shoop unless you know, he

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becomes a model, unless he becomes a model teacher. And

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Gils gives me the idea. Gil says, all right, you

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get them all to pass, I'll forget about your field trips.

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And then the whole movie takes its its turn. These

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kids aren't about to sit down and learn it allout

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eatting something, right, So.

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Yeah, they do a little negotiating. Not the worst idea

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for maybe a teacher that doesn't teach that, you know,

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and doesn't want to do it himself, you know, so

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I think him giving them what they call so called wishes.

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It's not a bad idea, just some people take it

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a little too extreme. But it's okay because this movie

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is ridiculously fun. So you have to enjoy the ride

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with this one.

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You do, now some of them noble? Right?

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Yes, Denise needs some lessons. Yes he's a teacher.

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Good good call. Kevin needs someone to work out with

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for football so he can get back on the team.

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You know Mark Harmon, Uh, I know he played football,

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and I can't remeber which school he played for the

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u c l.

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A Bruins he was and he was offered some stuff,

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but he wanted to concentrate on his academics.

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There you go.

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Okay, so that's really him doing that. That a quarterback.

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Okay, so he you know, these are these are what

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I would think are our quality wishes that a good

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teacher can do. And then chance On Dave absolutely exploit

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him because they want chauffeur.

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Service to from school.

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Yeah they want Yeah, they want to party at his

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place on the beach Fourth of July weekend. Let's not

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forget though, that this party is is filled with alcohol

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and fireworks, which he obviously knows. It's not like they're

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fighting it from him.

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Oh no, not at all.

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Yeah. And then you know what else, what else do

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we got that where he's like, you know, oh, Pam uh,

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Pam the surfer. Yeah, wants wants to move in, she

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needs a place to stay, and she's clear got a

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thing for him, but he's kind of oblivious to it. Yeah.

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Well, I don't think he's oblivious to it. I think

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he Yeah. And I really saw this this time around too,

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when Christy Ally is talking to him and saying, look,

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you know that girl has a crush on you. You

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know that it's not just gonna end. And when you

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tell if you let her stay here too long and

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then you tell her she's got to go, he's like,

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you're gonna you're gonna kill her. You know, it's gonna

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crush her. As opposed to just the she didn't do

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the oh no, you're sleeping with him and they had

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this big argument, like she knew what was going on.

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I think she knew that he wouldn't be like, oh,

470
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:46.200
I've got my student here and we're sleeping together. But

471
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.440
I like how they did that as opposed to her

472
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:51.240
like storming off and like him doing the run and

473
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.079
then it starts raining and he's like come back and

474
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:56.279
then he's gonna do a big gesture at the end.

475
00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:57.960
I love that about this movie.

476
00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:00.839
She kind of she she kind of gives a nasty look.

477
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:02.960
He goes outside and she's like, hey, this is not

478
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:05.400
my business, but what the hell's going on in there?

479
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.920
You know? And he it's innocent as far as Shoop

480
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.039
is concerned, but you know, yeah, Robin has to explain

481
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:14.920
to him like you might think it's innocent, but she

482
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.920
is looking at this a whole different way, and this

483
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.680
is bad, you know. Yeah, yeah, I I don't know,

484
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.799
Like there's just there's so many things that Shoop does

485
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.079
that you know, even like with Chainsaw Dave, you know,

486
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:31.559
clearly they have a problem with alcohol.

487
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:35.079
Oh yeah, they shouldn't have took those baby steps.

488
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:40.039
Yeah, but it's speaking about like the you know, he

489
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:42.039
covers for him. He tells the police, like you know,

490
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:43.599
they're out there, they're drinking on the beach. He comes

491
00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:46.319
by roller skating and he's like, oh, that's my stuff,

492
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.079
you know, yeah, dude, like they would have got a

493
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:52.000
slap on the wrist, you know, they're miners. Like he

494
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:53.559
goes to jail for his students.

495
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:57.519
That's right, and I like, you know, Christy, that brings

496
00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:00.000
up scares. He went to jail for his students.

497
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:05.279
Yeah, but again in that in that courtroom scene. He's

498
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.440
he's touted as a hero, like you know, he went

499
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.960
to gail for his students. Yeah, but he also didn't

500
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.079
do anything about their their alcohol abuse.

501
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:17.200
You know, he totally just you kind of have to

502
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.359
forget that part that I guess.

503
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:21.839
You know, because even when they're there, he's trying to

504
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.160
give driving lessons. You know, he's like, Chainsaw, you've been drinking.

505
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.079
At what point do you call mister Grimp and missus

506
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:31.799
Grimp and say, hey, your son has uh has been

507
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:32.599
under the influence.

508
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.880
You don't help. You don't call Chainsaw his dad. You know,

509
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.839
that's the dad that beats up Henry Hill and Goodfellows.

510
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:40.480
You don't want to call that guy who ended up

511
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:43.440
just slammacking it to death with all that's right.

512
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.119
That's right, that's the that's the father from uh from Goodfellas.

513
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:50.319
You don't call his father. God, you're seeing one ear

514
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:52.480
out the other till dad three o'clock.

515
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:58.039
Uh, you know, I almost forgot. We got a couple

516
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.640
people behind the scenes aside from Reiner, we should probably

517
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.759
mention so and I'm I got I got a little

518
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:06.319
bit of on the on the on the background, but

519
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:09.920
you know, Jeff Franklin writes the script. Uh, Brad, he

520
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.279
wrote one of our favorite films from n the nineteen eighties.

521
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:15.160
Uh you remember which one? You know? Which? What I'm

522
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:15.640
talking about?

523
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:21.000
M Uh? I thought I saw it earlier, but I

524
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:22.000
missed it. I forgot.

525
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.279
I'll do I'll do this anytime I can, any opportunity,

526
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:29.160
I get, Brad, you don't gonna do this. Jeff Franklin

527
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:32.480
actually wrote the screenplay for just one of the Guys,

528
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:37.279
Which stars Which star is one of my favorite actors, williams.

529
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:38.319
Zopka, williams Zovka.

530
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:42.240
Yeah, exactly. H So you gotta got a great screenwriter here.

531
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:46.880
Definitely great because this guy went on to become huge.

532
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:48.640
He created a full house, did you know?

533
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:50.519
You know? And he did. Yeah, he did a lot

534
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.079
of TV. And that's where I think works in this

535
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:59.640
movie because with TV, when you throw out those like

536
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.480
we're saying before those little dramatic moments are you know,

537
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:04.839
is supposed to be done, it's like they can't last

538
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.119
too long because you have to go to a laugh

539
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:09.920
after that. They do that a lot in this movie.

540
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:13.880
As soon as there's kind of a uh moment, you've

541
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.839
got like you know, uh, you know, David rec big guy,

542
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.680
you know. So it's like, as soon as there's a

543
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:27.400
touching moment, that's what those television writers do. So this

544
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:29.079
movie is very quick with that.

545
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:34.319
Okay, let's talk about the music for a quick second.

546
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.400
This does not this does not sound like a Danny

547
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:38.440
Elfman score at all.

548
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.160
To me. No, it doesn't. And I and I saw that,

549
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.119
I was like, Okay, I guess it really didn't have

550
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:48.039
a big score. But I mean, still very early on

551
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.759
to his composing, you know film.

552
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.119
You know, he's still he's still doing he's still leading

553
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.319
a one B ONEO at this point, right, I think,

554
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:01.319
so this is eighty seven, So yeah, all right, we

555
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.319
got that great song at the end when they're taking

556
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.799
the test called it's a song called mind over Matter. Okay, Uh,

557
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.039
Debbie Harry wrote it. I'm sorry, I don't know that

558
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:12.680
she wrote it, but I know that she performed it.

559
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:13.680
Mm hmm.

560
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.720
They didn't. There's some legal issues they couldn't clear it.

561
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.799
But they love the song so much. Danny Effman calls

562
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.839
up his buddy Elizabeth Daily, who performs the song also,

563
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:28.640
and they use the Elizabeth Daily. She goes up, she

564
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:34.119
goes under the name eg Daily, you you've heard her voice.

565
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.079
She's done several she's done She's done songs for several movies.

566
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:40.759
She did one for The Breakfast Club. She did one

567
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.359
for Oh I can't remember, it's it's slipped my head

568
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.640
right now the damn.

569
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:54.599
Wait, it's somewhere very close right now, you're right now, you're.

570
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.920
They're on fire. She did a song for The Breakfast

571
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.839
She did one for Better Off Dead, Bringing a Bell

572
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:05.000
to You. Yeah.

573
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:07.240
I always feel like that's the song that's playing when

574
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:12.319
they're dancing really hard in the library. Yep, is it? Okay?

575
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:12.759
I believe.

576
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:12.960
So.

577
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:16.119
It's got that kind of sound that is the exact same,

578
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.039
you know, kind of like feeling that you get with

579
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:20.519
the mm hmm.

580
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:24.000
And if you wonder, if you're wondering, like have you

581
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:25.279
seen her? Do you know her?

582
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:25.920
You do?

583
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:29.319
Let me let me put a face to the name

584
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.720
before you, Brad. She played Dottie in Pee Wee's Big Adventure.

585
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:38.839
Oh really, that's her, the cute little blonde. Okay, Yeah,

586
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.319
that works at the bike shop. That's that's that's Elizabeth Daily.

587
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.319
She does the song, I guess because Elfman had done

588
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:50.200
the score for Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Okay, yep, and

589
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:51.680
he knows, Hey, we gotta get We got to get

590
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:54.680
a good singer to come in here do this this song,

591
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.680
mind ever matter, because we can't have the the Debbie

592
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.720
Harry version. She comes in knock out of the park

593
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:04.839
as far as I'm concerned. And the weird thing is too,

594
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:06.880
I don't know what kind of legal trouble they have

595
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.920
with this, with the situation, because if you think back

596
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:14.960
to the the strip club scene where Larry the one

597
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.440
student that's always asleep, where Shoot finds you at the

598
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.359
strip club, it's a question about that playing a Debbie

599
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:25.599
Harry song. Okay, you know what, save it for likes

600
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.440
and dislikes, because I I know that you and I

601
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:29.519
have the same question.

602
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:31.759
Yeah, and I don't know if it's a like or

603
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.039
dislike because it's kind of a mysterious question.

604
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:39.880
I'm put Okay, I'm gonna put it under. But yeah,

605
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.920
but I think I know what you're talking about, and uh,

606
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.400
we'll definitely have to we'll definitely have to get to that.

607
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.759
But before we do a couple of things, you know,

608
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.160
before we before we discuss what we like what we

609
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.920
don't like. Brad, let me give you a couple a

610
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:59.160
couple bits of information about this movie how it came

611
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:08.960
to be. So we talked about Dean Cameron playing Spacoli

612
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.200
on Fast Times, the Ridge behind the TV show. So

613
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:17.319
this is something that's crazy. I think Carl Reiner is

614
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:21.039
at Paramount. He's working on a film. I don't know

615
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.000
which film. I could not find this information out, but

616
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.720
apparently he was pretty deep into production on something or

617
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:31.039
pre production. Paramount shelves it. And you can't do this

618
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.160
to Carl Reiner. He's Hollywood worlty at this point, right, Brad.

619
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:40.279
So the Paramount brass basically say, hey, look, we'll give

620
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:44.240
you your choice. You can direct any movie we have

621
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:48.279
in development right now. So he goes. He gets a

622
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:52.519
copy of the Summer School screenplay from Jeff Franklin, absolutely

623
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.640
loves it. He's laughing as he reads it and says,

624
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.119
this is what I want to do. The only problem, Brad,

625
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:03.200
is that Amount has already decided that Summer School is

626
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:07.400
going to be made by Amy Heckerling. Okay, this was

627
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.840
gonna yeah, she was doing this, she was in production

628
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.400
on this. You know, they pulled her. She was doing

629
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:13.880
a little bit of TV work for the Fast Times

630
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:14.400
TV show.

631
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:15.199
Mm hmm.

632
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.039
They pull her into this, so she's all set to go.

633
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:26.360
She's gonna direct Summer School and Patrick Dempsey from uh

634
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:27.119
what is it?

635
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.320
The Can't Love and Great?

636
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.920
Well, I know I know, yeah, yeah, Grays, I know him.

637
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.320
I know him is Ronald Miller. You can't buy Me Love?

638
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.639
But yeah, Grey's Anatomy where he plays one of the

639
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:39.760
what is he? Mike Dreamy or mc steamy. I can

640
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.079
never I never saw the wrong the wrong person. Okay,

641
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:45.639
those of you listening out there, if you're a big

642
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.440
Grays Anatomy of fans, we apologize, and please feel free

643
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:51.960
to correct us on social media. Let us know who

644
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.679
Patrick Dempsey was on Grady's Anatomy or who he is

645
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.480
is is the show even on Still, I don't know you.

646
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:00.599
I'm asking the wrong guy. I'm asking the wrong guy.

647
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:05.159
But look here's the thing. Amy Heckerling has Patrick Dempsey

648
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:10.920
lined up to play Chainsaw. So Carl Reiner comes in

649
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.639
and says, I love the script. I'm doing this movie.

650
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.239
I don't need that kid, though, I'll find my own.

651
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.519
So Paramount gives Heckerling and Dempsey the boot and Carl

652
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:27.639
Reiner jumps in. Now it's at this point that things

653
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.119
started getting shaken up. So Dean Cameron comes in, he

654
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:36.400
gets chainsaw and fun, fun little thing here. Gary Riley,

655
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.559
who's awesome. He's great in a lot. You know, we

656
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:42.360
saw him in a bunch of stuff in the eighties. Yeah,

657
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:44.079
would it surprise you to know that he went up

658
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.440
against ET's Henry Thomas for this role.

659
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:48.320
Surprising at all?

660
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:53.880
Yeah, Elliott himself was going to be Dave, and until

661
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.119
Rob Reiner, Carl Reiner's son, said Hey, I got this

662
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:59.639
kid and stand by me. He's fantastic. You gotta check

663
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.599
him out. And then all of a sudden, Gary Relly

664
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:06.039
is playing Dave. So that's how this thing's coming together.

665
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.400
Another weird twist. You know, you you kind of talked

666
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:15.119
at the very beginning about Carl Reiner seeing the Ted

667
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.679
Bundy movie and saying, hey, Mark, Mark Harmon is the guy, right,

668
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:20.239
and you said, yeah, we want to go with a

669
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:24.159
comedic actor. The original conception of this film, it was

670
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:27.039
a female teacher. They were kind of going for like

671
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.920
that Wildcat's vibe, like fish out of water and Joan Rivers,

672
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.519
Joan Rivers was going to play Shoop. Joan Rivers as

673
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.719
Missus Shoop was gonna get thrown into remedial English summer school.

674
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.400
You know, can you even imagine that movie? That does

675
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.039
not sound like anything I want to? I don't want to.

676
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:47.679
I don't want to at all. I'm so, you know,

677
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.119
thank you Carl Reiner for watching a Ted Bundy TV

678
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:54.639
movie because yeah, you know, we almost got something really

679
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.639
off the wall as far as I'm concerned. But yeah,

680
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.320
and then I got two other fun actually, Brad, okay,

681
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:04.320
all right, and then we'll get on because I'm rambling

682
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.880
on here. Chains On Dave, you know, they have that

683
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.519
great moment where they scare that you know, shoot, you know,

684
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:15.519
gets gets booted temporarily. Yeah, Gills brings in the substitute.

685
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:19.920
You know that the classroom of psychopath scene.

686
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:24.840
Yes, yeah, so chanse On Dave. They might not be

687
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.480
lining up to be valedatorians anytime soon, but their ability

688
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.400
to do special effects work is unbelievable. They should be

689
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.000
working for K and B right now, right.

690
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:42.079
Well, I'd like to hope that, you know, chains On

691
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:47.920
Dave have a successful you know, makeup, special effects, you

692
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.360
know business in the future, because it's it's obvious where

693
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.960
they're gonna go, and you know, become. But I mean, yeah,

694
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.880
I love that. But I love that scene. That's totally.

695
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:00.719
It's such a great It.

696
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:02.719
Is such a great scene. And I love that scene

697
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:06.119
not because for two reasons. First off, they write a

698
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:09.079
report on who the you know, what the topic is,

699
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.039
who we admire most and why, And they give this

700
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:17.880
this fantastic report on makeup artists and Creature creator Rick Baker.

701
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:23.199
The fun thing here is that Rick Baker did uncredited

702
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:26.920
work as a makeup artist on Summer School for that scene. Really,

703
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.159
that is Rick Baker's special effects that we're looking at

704
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:34.760
here a scene. Yeah, it's fantastic, you know, even like

705
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:36.519
when they go on the field trip and they do

706
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.559
the Bunnies from Hell thing. You know, they come out

707
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.679
with the rabbits stuck to their face and they're ripping

708
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:43.440
them off. You know.

709
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.079
He's like, oh, yeah, it's really good makeup. And it's

710
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.159
funny too that they use stuff that. I mean, I

711
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.000
had never heard of Rick Baker at that time, but

712
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.719
it's like, yeah, ever since this movie, every time I

713
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.719
see Rick Baker's name, I'm like Creature and creator Rick Baker.

714
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.800
Yeah. And the Academy Award for an American Warwolf for London.

715
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:06.159
We know that it is true. Yeah, it's very true.

716
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:08.719
It was a it was a good report. It was

717
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.880
a very good report, very very very very very very

718
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:15.719
very very very good report. Uh. One other fun fact

719
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:20.199
for you, Brad, if you are wondering about the school,

720
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:24.320
the high school, and why it looks so familiar, I'll

721
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:27.880
tell you why. This is the same high school that

722
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.920
you saw them use in UH Nightmare on Elm Street

723
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:32.320
Part two, Freddy's Revenge.

724
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:34.159
Yeah.

725
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:39.400
And more importantly, it is the same same it is

726
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:43.960
the same high school that they used in The Karate Kid,

727
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:48.519
a movie about UH, an all American student named John Lawrence,

728
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.840
played brilliantly by William Zapka, all about his h you know,

729
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.400
his troubles and trials and tribulations, his senior year dealing

730
00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:59.400
with a you know, a threat.

731
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.320
If yeah, that's two in here.

732
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:07.760
Two come up to williams upgo yeah. Yeah.

733
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.159
But funny thing about that Rick Baker makeup effect scene

734
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.239
is that Carl Reiner was cool enough to shoot that

735
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:20.440
on October thirty first, so all the actors could go

736
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.559
out that night of Halloween parties. So they were able.

737
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.480
That's awesome, all that stuff on and they got to

738
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.039
go out later that night. That's how cle That is

739
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:29.519
so cool.

740
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:33.159
Yeah, you know, think about this. Carl Reiner is sixty

741
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:36.280
five years old when he's directing this. Yeah, and this

742
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.119
is one of those eighties teen comedies. So for him

743
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:43.400
to I gotta believe that he was probably providing like

744
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:48.360
a fun dad type atmosphere instead of being like the boss.

745
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:50.639
He was probably like, you know, dad's gonna let us,

746
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:52.800
Dad's gonna let us do the makeup thing tonight. You know,

747
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:55.320
I see him being probably I bet he was probably

748
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.960
very protective of these kids, you know, on set and

749
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.920
when they're you know, trying to get him going. Let's

750
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:04.079
talk about some of what do you like about this movie, Brad?

751
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:05.840
You know, I know there's gotta be a lot, but

752
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:07.239
you know, if you had to, you had to narrow

753
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.119
it down to a couple of scenes. What do you

754
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:10.239
really like about this movie?

755
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:14.639
I think it has a lot of good scenes. Is

756
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:18.400
just really well done. I can't describe it. It's like

757
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:23.079
there's not really too many, you know, slow parts. There's

758
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.519
not really really any slow part at all. Even the

759
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:29.000
kind of the connection between Christy Ally and Mark Harmon,

760
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.000
it's very brief when they do it. It's a lot,

761
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:34.800
but it's so I think I like that it kind

762
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.800
of just like flips to funny scene to funny scene.

763
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:41.440
I mean even just like a scene of him walking

764
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:47.239
to Lama's class with her. Yeah, and the fact that

765
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:51.400
he's carrying a box of chocolate pop tarts, that he

766
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.800
carries these things with him, and I'm just like noticing.

767
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:57.039
I'm just like, in every scene there's always a little something,

768
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.239
even if it doesn't seem that funny, that I think

769
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.559
is funny. And just like that, I'm like, who would

770
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:05.239
take chocolate pop tarts? He would, mister Sue would. And

771
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.800
he's eating those chocolate pop tarts like crazy in this movie.

772
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.559
Yeah, well, what's bred if you if you've got to

773
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.320
help figure out a lesson plan, are you are you

774
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.000
going with chocolate pop tarts or are you going with

775
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:15.960
the chocolate dials?

776
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:19.400
I don't know, well, I mean or the peanut butter

777
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.159
with the jam on it. And that's thing. He's doing

778
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:26.800
a scene where he's looking at the sunset and he's

779
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:31.559
thinking about girls and why you know, he doesn't have Robin,

780
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.000
but he also doesn't have Kim. But the scene is

781
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.280
flurrish because he keeps let the dog lick his finger

782
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:37.519
and he shares.

783
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:39.480
Yeah, sharing, That's wonderful.

784
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:42.159
So that's what I like about the movie. There's no

785
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:47.079
there's always comedic elements in there that work with the scene.

786
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:51.000
So you're not dying of laughter missing the scene. You're giggling.

787
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.760
Yeah, yeah, shout out to wonder Mud by the way, Yes,

788
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:58.239
because Wonder Mud is one of the greatest movie dogs

789
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:00.840
of all time. I dig the fact that Shoop does

790
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.280
not give his dog a name like you know, Rocky

791
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.559
or Spiker or whatever. He gives him a superhero name.

792
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:11.719
He is wonderful. Yes, I love it all right. But again, Brad,

793
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.079
favorite scene you talked about a lot about what you

794
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:16.880
like about what if you had to give me, give

795
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:17.719
me a favorite scene.

796
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:21.920
But I think it is the classroom of psychopaths, like

797
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:22.599
you said.

798
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:23.400
Gil's were psychos.

799
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:28.360
But yeah, and because Gil is just sitting there, you know,

800
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:32.280
like smirking the entire time, and the woman is going

801
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:36.960
just nuts, an poor teacher screaming at what she's seeing

802
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.119
coming from grammar school. And so yeah, I think that

803
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:43.360
one is my favorite scene. But there's many good scenes,

804
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.000
you know, like, like I said, the Heim taking credit

805
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:49.239
for the vodka thing, you know, for the kids and

806
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.719
them their whole banter between each other is is some

807
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.199
of my favorite scenes, the Chainsaw on Dave scenes, and

808
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.920
of course when they screen Texas Chainsaw Massacre in the room,

809
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.920
because I love that movie so much, and every time

810
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.719
I watch Texas Massacer, I still think of summer school

811
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:06.440
just but I want to think of summer school, I

812
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:10.199
think of Texas Massacre. What do you like and what

813
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.159
is the best scene according to you.

814
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:18.000
I'll tell you right now, anything with chance that that

815
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.840
involves Chancell on Dave is probably at the top of

816
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.599
my list. If I had to go one scene is

817
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:27.800
my favorite scene, it's definitely the screening of the Texas

818
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:32.920
Chancel massaker in in class for two reasons. One, it's

819
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:35.199
just awesome and like you said, I can't watch the

820
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.880
Texas Chancel Massacre without thinking about Summer school. Now. They're

821
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:41.599
like they're ingrained, they go hand in hand now. But

822
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:44.880
I also dig the fact that it's also a win

823
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.079
for for for Shoop because he's, you know, he's teaching

824
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.480
them what can happen if you if you can, you know,

825
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:55.079
write a solid letter to a company that you feel

826
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:57.639
as you know, kind of ripped you off, so you

827
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.400
get the cool dude sunglasses. You know, they show up,

828
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.639
so it's like a teaching moment. It's a win for Shoop.

829
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.119
It's a win for chancel on day because they're watching

830
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.480
TCM and in class. I love their their banter as

831
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:12.519
it's going on. You know, excuse me this, This isn't

832
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.719
gonna hurt him because he's insane, you know.

833
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:18.719
And the fact that it's also a win because the

834
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:20.639
entire class has to do a report on it.

835
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:28.039
That's yeah, right, review like homework assignment has to be.

836
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:30.599
Is there is there something that doesn't work for you?

837
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:32.599
Like when you watch this now, is there a scene

838
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.000
where you're like, I don't like it or you know,

839
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.239
I know we talked about Let's talk about the confusing

840
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.159
scene before we talk about dislikes, because I wouldn't say

841
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:40.440
it's a dislike, but it is a confusing We want

842
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:41.320
to talk about that real quick.

843
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:45.519
So the the scene right before this is the scene

844
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:49.559
of him and Shoop and wonder Mud looking at the

845
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.519
sunset talking about women, and he says, we need a

846
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:58.559
woman that understands us and and I with intellect. So

847
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:02.880
he shows up at a male strip club so I

848
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:05.599
guess my question, and he says to one of the women,

849
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:08.800
I'm from Playgirl magazine and I want to interview. So

850
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:12.559
is he thinking go to a male strip club and

851
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.920
ask a bunch of women things they like? Then I'll

852
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:18.440
work on myself on that. Is that what he's doing?

853
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.440
So really, why is he there?

854
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:25.079
I I've always thought that this was there's like a

855
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:29.320
scene missing, Yeah, because he's not going there like a

856
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:31.039
lot of people would. A lot of people assume like

857
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:33.239
he's going there to check up on Larry, the kid

858
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.719
that's always asleep, right, But he he's shocked he.

859
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:37.679
Doesn't find Larry there.

860
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:41.280
He's like Larry, you know, So that's he's not there

861
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:44.880
for Larry. He's there. He willingly goes to a male

862
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:50.480
strip club. You know, I think maybe you have the best,

863
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:53.840
the best theory that I've heard now because I never

864
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:55.719
put that together. You know, he's on the beach, he's

865
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:57.719
trying to figure out, like, you know, how does he

866
00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:59.760
find the girl that he needs to settle down with?

867
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.000
So maybe you're right. Maybe he he goes to a

868
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:06.880
strip club to to talk to women and find out

869
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:08.559
what it doesn't.

870
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:12.760
Worrying girls that will think like fun like him would

871
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:13.960
be at a male strip club.

872
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:18.000
So maybe, yeah, he's also wearing a suit. He wears

873
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:19.800
a suit like three times in the movie, you know,

874
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:21.840
he goes to court. The one time he he shows

875
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:23.159
up to school and he's like, because he wants to

876
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:25.519
be the serious teacher, he's wearing a suit.

877
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:26.320
Yeah.

878
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.519
So I just I don't know. The scene is confusing.

879
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.320
I understand you need it so that he can find

880
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:38.239
out that Larry is Yeah, I think and again when

881
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:41.639
we talk about Shoop's morals, you just found out that

882
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:47.599
your underage student is stripping for money. And even when

883
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.360
even when he tries to do the right thing, and

884
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.840
Larry is like, hey, man, if you think about when

885
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:56.519
you were seventeen, if you knew then, and he's like, yeah,

886
00:47:56.559 --> 00:47:59.880
you're right, He's like, well, I know. So it's kind

887
00:47:59.920 --> 00:48:01.800
of like he's you know, it's like he's still like,

888
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.920
is it like the next next step the phone call

889
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:09.800
to Larry's mother. I just don't get because.

890
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:11.559
I think the next question would be what were you

891
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:12.079
doing there?

892
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.320
What were you doing there? I don't know, Brad what

893
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.239
this is a confusing scene. You know, I would even

894
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:20.960
probably call it one of the scenes I disliked. But

895
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.360
what anything that you dislike, anything that doesn't work for

896
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:24.440
you in this movie.

897
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.559
No, not so much really. I mean I think it

898
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.320
goes for as long as it needs to go. It's

899
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:37.960
not too long. It's not too short either. I think

900
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:41.199
the elements work in it. Yeah, obviously you can't have

901
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:45.000
a party with high school students drinking, you know, at

902
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.760
your house and stuff, so your couch on fire. Yeah,

903
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.519
And but some of the stuff, it's you have to

904
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.280
just kind of go with it with a grain of salt,

905
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:55.280
you know. But it's I still think the movie is

906
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.440
a lot of fun, you know, and it I feel

907
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.280
like when it when the movie wraps up, it wraps up.

908
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:06.000
I like the scene of them saying that you know

909
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:09.440
they did improve you know, and it's like, no, they

910
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:12.159
didn't have a percentage before, but you made you know,

911
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:14.079
you had like a thirteen and now you got like

912
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.280
a sixty five. So I like that. So there's a

913
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:18.960
lot of things that work really well in it.

914
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:23.320
I'll give you that scene because yeah, the the improvement

915
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:27.079
overall is there. But I also don't get like like

916
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:31.719
the one like dedise, you know, zero test scores because

917
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.920
you've always ditched them. But thirty eight and they're like,

918
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:36.760
that's terrific.

919
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:38.119
She's also dyslexic.

920
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:41.079
Okay, yeah, you know what, I didn't remember that, and

921
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:43.199
now that I do, Okay, I'll give you that one.

922
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:47.480
That's yeah, it is terrific. Then all right, I gotta

923
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:52.480
tell you, I you know, as far as likes and dislikes,

924
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:58.599
I'll paraphrase Dave and say, I love this film and

925
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:02.239
this passion and a plucky spirit. But there's one scene

926
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.840
where if if anyone's gonna complain, it's probably gonna be

927
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:12.599
the twelve year old Jeff Johnson. Uh, first time seeing this,

928
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:18.400
you go to the beach, I'm Maria yep. And then

929
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:21.280
the moment of truth, she's about to take her top

930
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.480
off and did he say, whoa, this ain't the Riviera

931
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:26.960
and stops her and chainsaw on David Like that that

932
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:31.119
was that was cruel. That was you know. Dave's like

933
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:34.760
he's like jumbling, he's like mumble that he's incoherent. Yeah,

934
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:39.280
did you so, here's here's something crazy? Uh? Did you

935
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.800
know that they filmed like Reiner was all for like

936
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:44.760
ad libbing. He liked he wanted the kids to express

937
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.679
themselves and try some different stuff. There's a deleted scene

938
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:51.719
where she does take her top off, runs into the ocean.

939
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.559
Chainsaw on Dave run after her and ask her to

940
00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:00.480
marry them. And uh, Dean Cameron who plays Chainsaws, you know,

941
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:03.039
he's talking about this like in retrospect. He's like, it's

942
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:07.360
funny that day on set we had more quote unquote

943
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:12.559
set visits from executives than ever ever before. Like there

944
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:14.559
was they were they showed up in mass like of

945
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.880
course I I yeah, look, I'm not gonna you know,

946
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:22.400
not gonna hold against him, but yeah, just don't know

947
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:27.159
this movie, movies. Movie is fantastic overall, Brad. Let's talk

948
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.920
about the guy behind it though. Let's talk about Carl Reiner.

949
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:33.599
For a little bit. Well, Carl Reiner is an icon,

950
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.440
you know him mel Brooks. I mean, this is the

951
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.880
guy he created the Dick Van Dyke Show, you know,

952
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:44.199
and introduced us to people like Mary Tyler Moore and

953
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.159
you know, the two thousand year year old man with

954
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:49.880
you know, with mel Brooks. You know, I've never heard it,

955
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:53.000
but apparently it is hilarious. This is something that I

956
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:56.960
would like to do, is hear some of these mel

957
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.719
Brooks Carl Reiner like collaborations because they were best friends

958
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:02.760
up until the end. You know, there was a there's

959
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:06.039
a mel Brooks documentary on HBO Max, and they would

960
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.320
he would just call mel Brooks, would just call up

961
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:11.679
Carl Reiner and they'd go to their house and you know,

962
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:14.920
in their like nineties and just eat pasta and watch movies.

963
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.719
They would still do that as at their old age.

964
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.800
And you know that that two thousand year old man

965
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:27.159
was the Aeron de Grammy nomination. I mean it's basically

966
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.079
like sparked his career. Now what he said about mel

967
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:33.199
Brooks that he said, I always knew if I threw

968
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.800
a question to mel he could come up with. Something

969
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:38.280
I learned a long time ago that if you can

970
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:42.440
corner a genius comedy brain and panic, you're going to

971
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:46.079
get something extraordinary. So I think that's a that's a

972
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:48.119
great quote. I mean it was one of the writers

973
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:50.000
on your show of shows. I mean this is like

974
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:54.559
all like even like maybe our parents' time, you know,

975
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.760
like very early time. I mean he served in the

976
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:01.960
United States Army in forty two, so yes, I mean

977
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:05.199
he was a part of like I think communications mm hm,

978
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:09.280
like some of the performing arts thing. He was inducted

979
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:12.199
to the Television Hall of Fame in ninety nine, got

980
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.519
the Mark Twain Prize for Comedy by the Kennedy Kennedy

981
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:22.360
Center Performing Arts. You know, he did the basically gave

982
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:26.280
Steve Martin that film career post he created.

983
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.840
He created Steve Martin the movie The Movie Star.

984
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:34.159
So it was like the jerk man with two brains

985
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:38.400
all of me and don't wear plaid. Which is funny

986
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:40.639
because now I want to watch all of these and

987
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:43.960
I've only seen the Jerk and it's been a long

988
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:47.320
time since I've seen the Jerk, so it's it's very

989
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:48.079
foggy to me.

990
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:54.000
Okay, well, let's this guy has such a long, prestigious

991
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.280
list of credits. Let's uh, let's just zero in a

992
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:01.360
couple so first first film production and he works with

993
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:05.880
George Burns on nineteen seventy seven's Oh God. Did you

994
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:06.800
ever see those movies? Though?

995
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:09.639
Which I which I feel like I've seen, but I

996
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.159
can't tell you anything about them. But I feel like

997
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:14.000
I watched them at a young age. I just I

998
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:15.480
can't remember anything about them.

999
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.840
We watched them when we were little kids on like Showtime.

1000
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:23.360
But you're right, I need to go back and review

1001
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:27.559
them again, because you know they did a couple of those.

1002
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.400
We need to go back nineteen seventy eight. A year later,

1003
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:35.679
he's working with Henry Winkler the Fonds on the one

1004
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.880
and only. I haven't seen it well, and then that

1005
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:42.760
leads us you kind of highlighted this already. Nineteen seventy

1006
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.159
nine to nineteen eighty four is the Steve Martin era.

1007
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.679
So we get the jerk in nineteen seventy nine, Dead

1008
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:51.599
men don't wear plaid in nineteen eighty two, the Man

1009
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.239
with two brands in nineteen eighty three, all of me

1010
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:58.239
in nineteen eighty four. I've seen all of them. I

1011
00:54:58.280 --> 00:54:58.920
love all of them.

1012
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.920
How about you, really, Yeah, I've only seen the jerk

1013
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:02.840
I have.

1014
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:08.239
Oh man, the man with two brains is is hilarious.

1015
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:10.719
That's that's the one. And you I bet you've seen it.

1016
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.760
You just don't remember it, probably, oh god.

1017
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:14.679
Yeah.

1018
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:16.599
But it's where he has. He has the brain that

1019
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:20.599
can talk to him. He's a surgeon, and the brain

1020
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.079
is the voice. The voice of the brain is Kathleen Turner.

1021
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:25.199
I have to go back, and he's kind of falling

1022
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.440
for Yeah, it's it's it's fantastic. All of Me is

1023
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:32.360
where he works with Lily Tomlin, where she gets trapped

1024
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:34.880
in his body. It's not like a body swap movie,

1025
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.079
like a silly body swap movie. It's just like they're

1026
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.760
in you know, she's in him.

1027
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:44.679
So that's not silly at all. Silly, it's not as

1028
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:46.559
silly as she's just inside.

1029
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:51.800
Yeah, it's like, uh yeah, all right, Well look, he

1030
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:55.400
definitely without Carl Reiner, we don't get Steve Martin the

1031
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:59.480
movie Star, which is a terrifying concept when you think

1032
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:01.760
about the amazing body of work that Steve Martin has

1033
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:04.360
given us and what he's giving us right now because

1034
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:06.800
he went. He's back on television with The Only Murders

1035
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:09.320
in the Building, which is one of the best shows

1036
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:14.280
on television Hulu. Absolutely absolutely. Then nineteen eighty five, he

1037
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:17.920
pairs up with John Candy Richard Crenna Summer Rental.

1038
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.639
Poor poor John Candy in that movie, poor guy. He

1039
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:25.039
just can't catch a break in that.

1040
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:29.840
Movie, Renter. Yes, Summer Summer Rental is one of those movies.

1041
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:32.119
I watched it all the time when I was a

1042
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:34.440
little kid. I don't even know why, it was just

1043
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.239
it was, well, I do know why because it was hilarious.

1044
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.400
It was funny. John Candy was funny in this movie,

1045
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:42.000
great supporting cast. It's just it's and it's ridiculous. And

1046
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:46.360
it's a little confusing too, because Colonel Troutman's playing a

1047
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:48.760
bad guy. You know, he's a he's a he's a jerk.

1048
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:54.480
And that doesn't sit well with me, you know, not

1049
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:58.360
at all. Man. But yeah, Summer Rental eighty five and

1050
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:01.880
then we're talking Summer School in eighty seven. This is

1051
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.320
for me. This is kind of where I lose track

1052
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.079
of call Rener because I know he did like, what

1053
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:11.519
three maybe four more movies after Summer Rental. Yeah, I

1054
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:13.440
can't tell you that I seen them, though, Man, how

1055
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:13.840
about you.

1056
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:16.639
I mean a few of those like kind of snuck

1057
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:20.360
in on just like watch whatever comes on cable, Like

1058
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:23.159
things like Siblings. I remember that movie Sibling Rivalry.

1059
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.280
You know that was well Christy allity, because he did

1060
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:27.280
that one shortly after this one, right, yeah.

1061
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.960
It was about I never saw the I guess it

1062
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:34.800
would have been the spoof basic instinct called fatal instinct.

1063
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:37.920
I saw that and it's not good.

1064
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:42.639
Yeah, it didn't didn't look good. I just remember seeing

1065
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:46.039
copies of that old feeling just putting it away and

1066
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:49.960
feeling like no one's gonna buy this except maybe our parents.

1067
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:55.360
Yeah, it's just it's I don't know, to be fair, yeah,

1068
00:57:55.519 --> 00:58:00.440
it probably wasn't it's probably it's probably good now, probably good, Yeah,

1069
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:03.280
you know, to be fair, that was not made for

1070
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:04.199
us at that time.

1071
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:04.679
Yeah.

1072
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:06.800
Well, and we probably would like it now.

1073
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:11.840
Yeah. And I'd say the most recognized of Carl Reiner

1074
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:15.599
you know things is probably the Oceans films. You know,

1075
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:18.679
have him playing Saw in all three Oceans.

1076
00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:22.480
Yeah. Well so that old feeling that was nineteen ninety

1077
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:26.400
seven and Ocean the first Oceans movie was what two

1078
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.840
thousand and one, two thousand and one, okay, yeah, yeah,

1079
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.199
so I kind of feel like he, you know, after

1080
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:33.800
that old feeling, he was like, Okay, I've done what

1081
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:36.119
I needed to do. Now I'm just gonna get in

1082
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.599
front of the camera, back in front of the camera

1083
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:41.400
and have some fun because I love I love his performance.

1084
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:43.840
Yeah, and he's great and all three of them.

1085
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:47.159
Yeah, yes, he is so good in that absolutely loving

1086
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:50.440
this is this is a guy, brad. He did it

1087
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:55.559
all for us, actor, director, producer, right, and when you

1088
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:57.679
think about how yeah, writer and when you think about

1089
00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:02.320
how how much he's nected to so many projects, like

1090
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:06.400
the six Degrees scenario, there's so much we would have

1091
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:09.440
missed out on if it did not have Carl Reiner. Yeah,

1092
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.039
you know, for one thing, like with no Carl Rener,

1093
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.760
there's no Rob Reiner. He created Rob Render, you know,

1094
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:17.320
And I know, I know we're gonna talk about him

1095
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:21.599
here in the next couple of weeks. But just a fantastic,

1096
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:28.599
fantastic director. I know we we recently lost him twenty twenty,

1097
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:32.800
wasn't it. Yeah, just an amazing, amazing life, amazing actor. Brad.

1098
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:36.159
Let me ask you, do you have a favorite car

1099
00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:38.159
Rener film? What would be your favorite out of all

1100
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:39.239
out of his body of work?

1101
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:43.639
Okay, I'm saying this based upon that I've only seen

1102
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:46.199
one of those out of four Steve Martin movies, and

1103
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:49.159
I think it is this film Summer School. It's still

1104
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:52.880
made me laugh a lot. My son was trying to sleep,

1105
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.519
so I had to hold in a lot of my laughs.

1106
00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:57.679
Had to stifle the laughter a little bit, really tough.

1107
00:59:57.840 --> 00:59:59.679
I'm like, you can just kind of laugh inside your

1108
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:02.800
head certain parts. I just had to kind of let

1109
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:04.800
it out. The best I could so, I mean, as

1110
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:07.280
I really like this movie. You know, that's just a

1111
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:11.239
personal fun I know you like it. We we've watched

1112
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:13.519
it and quoted it quite a bit, you know, and

1113
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:17.920
still do you know so, I mean even I.

1114
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:21.400
Mean thinking about this, this is it's so quotable, you know,

1115
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.639
not just you know, not just the chains on Dave stuff.

1116
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:25.239
There's a lot of you know, I love Denise, like

1117
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:27.320
like I say, this whole class is jammed with ignorance,

1118
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:28.400
and yes it is.

1119
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.599
I mean just even things like I want to use

1120
01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:36.360
the word vomits and something. You know, I'm like, this

1121
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:37.800
is Vomas.

1122
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:43.119
Definitly clever MoMA's Yeah, there's so much. There's so many

1123
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:46.519
moments I can watch this. This movie holds up obviously,

1124
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:50.400
you know, I love it. I would, I would have

1125
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:53.519
to say, you know, again, I didn't see some of

1126
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:57.760
his his later films, like that Old Feeling, But even

1127
01:00:57.800 --> 01:00:59.920
going up against the Steve Martin blocked that he did,

1128
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:03.079
I'm picking Summer School as my favorite car Runner film.

1129
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.559
Mm hmm. Yeah, he'd be a good director to dig

1130
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:09.800
back into, you know, and he revisits him to it'd

1131
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:10.119
be fine.

1132
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:13.239
I agree, So, I you know it goes without saying

1133
01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:14.159
we recommend this, right?

1134
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:16.519
Oh yeah, absolutely, where did you?

1135
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:18.920
I've got a copy. I got a DVD copy. I

1136
01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:20.960
would love to see a Blu ray like with special

1137
01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:22.960
edition deleted scenes commentary.

1138
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:27.199
But yeah, especially the deleted scene between the beach and

1139
01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:30.039
the We would love that.

1140
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:33.320
I'll tell you, you know, I shouldn't say this, but

1141
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:37.320
until that deleted scene shows up, Brad, if you ever

1142
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:44.880
see a movie called Diplomatic Community starring Fabiano Yudenio, well,

1143
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:46.960
I'll just leave it at that. Just you know, you

1144
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:47.400
do that.

1145
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:51.840
She's a lot of for China, that's right, Yeah, Austin Power.

1146
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:56.519
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for the for the Fabiana, for the

1147
01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:59.480
Anna Maria Mazzarelli fans that that want to see more

1148
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:03.519
of her work or just more of her Diplomatic Community.

1149
01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:07.400
That's that's your that's your go to there, Brad. So

1150
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:08.440
what did you see this though?

1151
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:12.039
Is this training on is on showtime anytime? So if

1152
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:15.239
you have showtime, you can watch this on demand on

1153
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:18.039
any time, okay, and I'm sure you can rent it

1154
01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:19.719
on Prime for like two ninety nine.

1155
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.719
Anything else you want to say before we do the

1156
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:23.280
the clothes?

1157
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:25.880
Oh come on, man, were we just had a fire.

1158
01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:27.480
You know it was getting good.

1159
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:34.639
Good night. Well that's uh, that's gonna do it for

1160
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:39.559
us this time. I feel like we have talked about

1161
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:42.519
a teacher. You know, we talked about school school movie,

1162
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:46.199
school themed movie. A teacher that everybody loves that maybe

1163
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:49.360
isn't a good teacher. I think that's fair. Sure, it's

1164
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:53.320
only fitting. It's only fitting that next week on our

1165
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:58.119
limited series nineteen eighty six, we talk about a student

1166
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:02.760
that and that everybody he loves the student, the student,

1167
01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:07.119
but maybe is not a good student. I think that's fair, right.

1168
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:11.400
So not John Bender, No, we're not talking Yeah, we're

1169
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:12.440
not talking about the breakfast Club.

1170
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.679
This is ninet a six man. So join us next

1171
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:19.000
week because we'll get the gang together and we'll be

1172
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:24.480
talking about none other than Ferris Bueller's day off. Until then,

1173
01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:27.400
you can always get a hold of us www dot

1174
01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:30.800
a Thumby podcast dot com. We are streaming on all

1175
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:35.960
your favorite platforms. Give us a like, give us a review, subscribe,

1176
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:39.360
share rate all that good stuff.

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