Con Men 2: Electric Boogaloo

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You know what, I don't know
if we're going to have a cold open.

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I didn't do a cold open on
the first one, did I?

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No? I don't think so you
can't. You can't cold open. That's

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gold, Jerry, Oh boy,
Okay, no cold open. Hello everybody,

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and welcome back to a Film by
a Podcast. I'm Jeff Johnson,

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I'm David Burns, I'm Skoy Hoffmann, and I'm Wayne Whitey. We have

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got a full house today because we
have got a special episode for you today.

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We have been busy hitting up some
incredible convey and we thought it was

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time to give a little recap on
where we've been, who we've seen,

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and who we've talked to. So
we're going to dive in to our experiences

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at the Cincinnati Comic Con, the
Lexington Scarefest, and the Motor City Comic

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Con. Before we get into that, Wayne, For those may be unfamiliar

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with the term con, what is
a con? Oh? What is the

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con? It is a convention an
event where fans of a particular genre be

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it comic books, are horror,
films, sci fi, et cetera,

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can go and celebrate their fandom,
meet creators and stars, and mostly surround

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themselves with the things they like,
their hobbies, and others that are into

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the same thing that they are.
Scott, how did this? How did

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all this start? For those of
us that don't know well, So,

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like Wayne said, nowadays, there's
a con that fits with anything that people

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are passionate about, right so,
wrestling, movies, comics, sci fi.

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There's enough people that are into it. There's a place to celebrate that

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love together. The first one that
I found was the World Science Fiction Convention

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that took place in New York City
in nineteen thirty nine, coinciding with the

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World's Fair. Fast forward to nineteen
sixty four, when the Big Apple was

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also the home to the first large
scale comic book convention. Then about six

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years later, in nineteen seventy,
San Diego Comic Con took hold of the

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West Coast. The first one had
a modest showing of about one hundred attendees,

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which pales in comparison to more than
one hundred thousand people that we see

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there today. The number of cons
across the nation, across the world have

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exploded since then, with specialized events
throughout the year and most of them available

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wherever you live. So instead of
having to make the pilgrimage to the coasts,

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there's a good chance you can find
an amazing con near you. I

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absolutely agree with that these things are
popping up everywhere. Dave, You've been

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to plenty of these things. Yeah, Any any fun facts, anything you

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can tell us about what goes on
at conventions. Well, the one thing

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that I really wanted to dig into. One thing I didn't think about was

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what the convention to bring in money
wise. So we've all been to a

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bunch of these conventions. We know
how crowded they can get, right,

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And I do not want to deter
anybody from going to see one of these

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because of the crowds, because those
lines are worth it to meet the people

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that you would not normally get to
run into on a normal day basis.

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But research was done like about eight
years ago. Did you guys know that

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this business of the comic book convention
brings in over three billion dollars a year?

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Oh wow, I believe now that
was That was like five to six

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years ago. So considering how busy
these conventions have gotten now, the attendance,

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says we all has seems like it's
gone up. So it's clearly more

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than three billion dollars. But I
was looking at next year, at the

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conventions that are going on, and
literally there's a convention every freaking weekend.

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And some of them are very small, obviously, like the big ones you

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know, usually like every one two
or three months, every you know,

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four months, something like that.
But literally, you go to a convention

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every weekend you wanted to. But
it is quite an experience, especially if

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you go with friends. You know, for me, sometimes just the drive

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to one of these is an experience
in itself, just getting to hang out

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with my friends and that's you guys. You know the convent you know,

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that to me is very very special. Just the one we recently did where

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we had to drive what four hours? Guys, I love that, you

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know, the drive may think sometimes, especially when we're coming back and we're

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all tired, but you know what, it is so much fun and totally

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worth it. So yeah, I
wouldn't I wouldn't trade the I wouldn't trade

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the trips there for for anything.
That's that's some of the faces. That's

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some of the better moments for me
too. It is. Yeah, with

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all this money that you're talking about, Dave, one thing we got to

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point out is that a lot of
this money is going to a good cause.

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You know, there's some really impressive
organizations that are raising money for for

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various charities. Scott, why can
you what can you tell us a little

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bit about that? Yeah? So, I mean, so, let's start

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with the Star Wars fans. Let's
talk about the five hundred and first Legion,

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which is the world's definitive imperial costuming
group. Since ninety seven, they've

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bought brought iconic characters to life for
the benefit of local charities at cons another

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fan based charity events. Basically,
name any villain from that universe and you'll

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see it represented in mind blowing the
screen accurate screen accurate detail. They bring

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real working droids one of the kind
backgrounds for photo ops, all for a

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good cause. It's one hundred percent
volunteer, more than seven thousand active members

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worldwide, and its popularity or not
only official recognition by George Lucas himself,

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but the five zero Vers has become
an official part of Star Wars canon as

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early as two thousand and four,
most notably part of Revenge of the Sith,

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Battlefront two and the Clone Wars cartoon. Under the command of Captain Rex.

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So this is an organization that you'll
see at a lot of these local

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shows, different faction from the local
con Wherever you are, they'll find a

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local charity and be giving back to
it, whether it's a children's hospital or

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another local charity, indeed usually benefiting
kids, which is great to see.

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And they're not the only ones.
So Columbus Ghostbusters near Us is another great

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example of a nonprofit that raises money
for local charities. It's officially recognized by

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an officially recognized franchise by Sony and
Ghost Corp. You can regularly see them

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bring in more than like Ecto one
proton packs. They do like a psychic

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test where you get a Twinkie as
a price, expert costuming, all this

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stuff that brings you back to the
firehouse and they're collecting money for charities.

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So you get a photo op and
all these experiences and the money that you

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give them gives back to your city. There's a lot of organizations that do

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similar things. There's Galaxy United,
Heroes Strong, Rubber City Cosplay, all

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bringing these real life experiences that immerse
you in your worlds while giving back to

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people in need. So it's a
cool thing they do very cool. I

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tell you, I think it'd be
great, uh, because I know we're

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probably gonna do another one of these
common episodes. I don't know about you

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guys, but i'd love to get
someone from the five oh first or or

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like the finest that that g I
Joe Club there that's out there, I'd

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love to get. I'd love to
get someone from one of those organizations.

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Uh. We we had to invite
them on and uh and talk with them

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a little bit. I think that'd
be I think that'd be a fun time.

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I agree, totally agree. Well, speaking about a fun time,

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let's uh, let's head back to
September. We had the Cincinnati Comic Expo.

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Now, there's some big names at
this one. I know Stephen Amil

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was there, Vincent Dinafrio was there, Julie Binns, Brett Spiner, That's

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just to name a few. A
lot of really uh big voice name actors.

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But maybe the big draw was the
Paul's a plenty, right. We

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got Paul Bettany, Paul Williams,
and Paul Freeman, who I know is

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a big draw for probably the big
draw for us. Yeah, let's talk

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about who we met Wayne, what
can you tell us about Paul Williams.

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He was fantastic and I've always wanted
to meet him. He is part of

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our childhood really. I mean,
if you live during the seventies and the

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eighties, you couldn't turn on the
radio or turn on the television without hearing

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or seeing something that he was involved
in. I mean, he wrote some

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of the greatest songs ever, including
the score to The Muppet Movie. He

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wrote the Academy Award nominated song Rainbow
Connection, he wrote the theme to The

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Love Boats. I mean, you
know everything you know that's out there during

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that time, he pretty much was
involved, and he was a fantastic person,

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incredibly nice. I met him specifically
because he's also an actor and he

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did a guest appearance on Star Trek
Voyager. But he didn't really want to

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talk about himself. He wanted to
talk about something else I brought up.

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But I had mentioned that I had
just found out that he was the singing

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voice on the soundtrack for the Secret
of Nim, which was done by written

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by Jerry Goldsmith, one of my
favorite composers, and Paul was He has

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such great stories about Jerry Goldsmith.
It was he he has it was like

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working with your idol, his hero. He he he respected Goldsmith so much.

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It was a great conversation. I
mean, I love talking soundtracks to

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anyone, but I am so thrilled
to finally have met this, this legend

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of music. It's funny. I
can't think of Paul Williams without thinking of

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Phantom of the Paradise Palm film.
Yeah, he is wild in that thing.

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I know. You guys, You
guys had a nice interaction with Julian

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Glover. Dave, tell me about
that. Oh yeah, there was so

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so amazing, so very surreal.
Okay, because if you told myself back

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in nineteen eighty nine, when I
was watching Indian and Jones in the Last

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Crusade that I would be meeting Julian
Glover in person, I'd be like,

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ah, yeah, whatever. But
I got to tell you meeting him in

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person like we did was a whole
new level because not only was it surreal,

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like I said, but Wayne and
I, you know, got into

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his line to take a photograph with
him. So we went in and I

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was wearing shorts and noverybody knows me
how I knows. I have a prosthetic

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leg, and obviously anyone's going to
notice it or recognize it right away.

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But Julian, you know, looked
down. You know, he looked at

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me, and you know he said, hey, he said, well,

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you know what happened, and he
was very sincere about it. We had

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It was like two friends talking.
It was very natural conversation. It wasn't

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like forced or anything like that.
He was just very very genuine about it.

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And when I told him the story
and how I lost it, you

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could just see how deeply caring he
was and hit by his reaction on what

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he did. And one of the
things that will come up in a lot

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of our conversations when we meet these
people is how after meeting them, how

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we appreciate them more, you know, how we want to support them more

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after we met them for the first
time. Because I don't think I've had

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a bad experience in a long time
with meeting anybody. So that meeting with

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Julian Lover was just incredible, and
you know, it gives me much more

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respect of him. But now when
I see him in Indian joins the last

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Crusade has done of him, I'm
like, hey, I've met that guy

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and he was pretty cool. He
was my number one draw. He was

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the one person I really wanted to
meet there because he not only has guest

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starred on Doctor Who once, but
twice with two completely different doctors in two

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different decades. Two fantastic stories,
one back in the sixties and then another

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one that was written by the legendary
Douglas Adams, one of the best stories

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from the entire series. And he
had even though it happened such such a

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long time ago, almost sixty years
ago, with the first one, he

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remembered everything like it was yesterday and
had great stories about working with William Hartnell

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and Tom Baker, and he was
really excited to meet someone that didn't talk

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about Indiana Jones was talking about Doctor
Who. I was it was. He

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was a fantastic person to meet.
There's a very a very fun photo that

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you guys took with with Glover.
Uh. Way, you want to tell

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us a little bit about what you
decided to do for this, uh this

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particular photo op. Yeah. I
don't know why this even came to my

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head when I but I just wanted
to do something different. I wanted to

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have a photo taken with me and
David and I was looking over on my

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shelf and I have quite a few
action figures, and I saw the action

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figure from of Julian Glover from that
story City of Death the Doctor, his

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story from the seventies, and I
thought, what did we need to have

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that in my hand in holding that? And then I thought, well,

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wait a minute, there's another figure
out there. There's a Donovan figure as

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well. So I went out and
got that, gave that to David since

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he's a big Indiana Jones fan,
and we are both holding up Julian Glover

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figures along with a real person photo. Yeah we got we got two men

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and three Julian Glovers in that photo. That's that's pretty fantastics, right.

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Speaking of Indiana Jones, I gotta
say, for me, the big draw

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had to be Paul Freeman Scott I'm
talking about uh you know, he played

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a character. I think they call
him Belloc Belloc Paul Freeman. Uh guys,

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was he not just a fantastic conversation
and he really was a bit of

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a bit of a smart ass,
like towards Julian Glover, like you know,

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yeah, we you know, we
talked to him. We're talking to

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him like hey, we you are
by and far the the the greatest adversary

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Indiana Jones ever faced. And he
immediately he's pointing down to Glover. He's

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like, hey, can you do
me a favorite? Can you go tell

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him that exactly? It was awesome. I'm like, oh, yeah,

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he was. He was fantastic.
Now here's something, you know, Dave,

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what you we talked about having some
fun fun things with the photos.

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Uh, Freeman was was kind enough
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the table. I'm carrying the the
fertility idol you know, from from Raiders,

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and I had this idea that I
would, you know, Dave,

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you remember this. I wanted to
kind of pose like I was handing it

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over to him. Yep, Scott, I know you weren't with us,

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You're you were talking the fib at
first at this point, I think,

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but I pulled this this idol out
of my of my bag. As soon

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as he saw it, he snatched
it from me. I didn't even get

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a chance to so, you know, you you take a look at that

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photo. He is proudly holding it
center, you know, right right there.

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I'm like, okay, well get
away, okay, he'll he'll he'll

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take the photo the way he wants
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he was fantastic. Uh he.
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his favorite directors. I know Dave
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he mentioned his is his top choice? And then he kind of he kind

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of sheepishly told us about his upcoming
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you know, you know, you
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So for those of you tuning into
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Paul Freeman soon holding the idol.
No, this is not this is not

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a Richard Dreyfus situation. I got
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Scott, I know you were.
You were all over the place checking out

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a lot of the vendors, a
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back to this one next year?
I'd definitely go back to Cincinnati comeback expo.

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Another other other draws that I kind
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There was Jim Lee, which everybody
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talent that I wish we could have
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for us. Disney legend Floyd Norman
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you'll see him all over Disney Classics. The one that I made a beeline

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for was Adam Savage from MythBusters.
I wanted to get an autograph for my

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oldest son, who has one of
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It's like his backstage bible basically,
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a lot of cos players and people
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advice and encouragement, and it was
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range of talent you'll see at the
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go back. How about you,
Wayne, Oh? Yeah, it was

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fantastic convention. I had a great
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if you were shopping for comics.
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other people to Neil McDonough from Star
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I got to meet him, fantastic, incredibly nice guy. And I got

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to meet John Delancey. This is
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and it was a rather unusual conversation
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meet some of these people, I
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obscure. You know, they sit
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over and over again, you know, a Star Wars, Star Trek or

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whatever. So I usually try to
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that they did. And I think
I got a little bit too obscure and

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mentioned his appearance in Torch Would and
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and he deflected the questions back to
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the entire time talking to him.
He was asking questions about me and my

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career, which was rather odd.
I've never done that before. But Okay,

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if he wants to know all about
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but I guess I want to go
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to go back. I can't wait
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you know. One one final thought
about Paul Freeman. You guys were

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busy talking with the joint Glover.
I went back to Freeman and was able

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to chat with him a little bit
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never want to just ask the same
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creators have heard thousands of times.
And I kind of feel like when you

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do, when you kind of go
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about something off topic, usually they
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right, yep, I can't tell
you. Freeman was kind enough to

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offer up the fact that he did
not swallow a fly and raise the lost

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Star that you know he hears it
all the time. I wasn't about to

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ask him, but uh, that
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or what you think you see on
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But uh, Dave, was there
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run into at since a comic expo? No, not no one that I

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ran into. But I just want
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find in any store like a Target
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know, at these conventions you find
the unique items, you know. I

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know Wayne mentioned the comic books,
but for me, I mean it's it's

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you know, it's looking for other
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know, any kind of action figure
collectibles. You stuff that you won't normally

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find in a regular store. So
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these, check out all the dealers
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to find. You will find those
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been to I always find something different, something unique. And you know,

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I wish my wallet and my bank
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but unfortunately it won't let me check
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have their information in the show notes. We'll see you there. Moving on

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to the Lexington Scarefest. We did
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was huge. We had We had
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Creep Show, Halloween, and Dad
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That's that's like your and that's like
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I know the entire cast like Terrifier
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that that those movies are getting a
huge draw at these conventions now and if

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you've seen them, you know why. And don't forget we had a couple

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of actors there from five Nights of
Freddy movie Honey been out yet, and

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you know, those actors weren't getting
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like god, dang it, now

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when they do show up conventions.
They're gonna be packed. Yeah you you

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you sell those too, And we're
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I'm in out yet, so yeah, you know, we walked right by

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them. A couple of weeks later, we're seeing the movie. It's incredible

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and we're kind of like, yeah, that would have been good to would

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say hello. But in addition,
uh, again, some huge names.

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David Arquette, Adrian Barbo, Tom
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Clint Howard, David Morrissey. I
could go on, but uh, let's

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talk about who who we Who we
met? Wayne. You've got the Doctor

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Who poster in tow. You've got
the Star Trek poster in tow. These

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legendary posters that are that hold hundreds
of autographs that you've got. What can

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you tell us about Clint Howard?
He was fantastic. I mean, here's

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a guy that was in so many
Star Trek series and made so many appearances

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all the way back to nineteen sixty
six in the original. He was so

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nice. He looked at my poster
and picked out the names in effect to

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the first one he recognized, Oh
there's Paul Williams. I can't believe he

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got his autograph, and I actually
talked to him a little bit about our

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other shows that we do in our
podcasts of Strange New Worlds and his recent

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appearance. I loved meeting him.
He's a Star Trek legend. Yeah,

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he was one of two Star Trek
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The other one was Melinda Clark.
She had guest appeared on the pilot episode

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of Star Trek Enterprise, and I
wish I would have realized this was her

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too, But I'm a huge Seinfeld
fan. Loved that show, and she

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was in an episode called The Muffin
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and of course Jerry, you know, shaves himself and that's one of the

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funniest episodes, and I wish I
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But I did get to talk to
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think I was probably the only person
that weekend that came up to her and

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talked to her about that. First
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that's right, I kissed Scott Bacula. I enjoyed that, so yeah,

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she It was a good memory there. And then of course David Morrissey,

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my number one being Draw. I
mean, he's huge on The Walking

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Dead, but he did a phenomenal
guest appearance back in two thousand and eight

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on Doctor Who, playing the next
Doctor Man who is shocked by a Cyberman

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memory disc and believes he's the doctor
himself. An incredible appearance. And here's

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a guy who he wants to do
more conventions. He talked to me,

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he asked me questions. He says, I would love to do Doctor Who

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conventions, and I gave him the
information. I told him which ones to

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contact. I hopefully we see him
more. If you see him at a

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convention, go visit him, go
go get his autograph. He is incredible

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to talk to. And he was
a talker like Jeff and I were like

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standing back watching you know, your
interactions with him, and he was just

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going on and on and on,
like having this that friendly conversation with you

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forever. He loved being on the
show and he loved talking about it.

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It was it was great to meet
someone that that you know, was not

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only in the show, but it's
passionate about the series as well. Dave,

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how great was it to meet a
legend like Tom Savini? You know,

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I got to tell you I never
expected to meet him either, you

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know, this guy being his presence, you know how inspiring it was because

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you know, just to think of
all the work he's done over the years

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we have seen on the big screen, you know, just sitting there and

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just signing autographs and meeting his fans. God, it was fantastic. Just

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sitting next to him. To get
my selfie with him was just you know,

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give me goosebumps. Loved it.
What I love is how approachable he

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was. And so I was there. I was there a day earlier.

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No one is near Savini. He's
he's I don't know if he had just

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come back from a lunch break or
what, but you know, it just

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walked up started, you know,
casually, just hey, I love your

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work, thank you for everything you've
given us. And he goes, you

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can sit down, man, So
you know, sit down. You know

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we talk. We talk like two
more minutes. And that's the great thing.

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You know, if you've ever if
you haven't been to one of these

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cons, I'll tell you this.
Sometimes if you're you're hoping to see someone,

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you might be in a line with
like a thousand other people. You

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know, you know, if you're
if you're trying to talk to William Shatner,

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you are not. Shatner's not going
to ask you to sit down and

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chat for a while, right Wayne, you know, because they they got

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to make time for everybody. But
if you happen to catch someone when they're

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they're just about to leave or they're
just now getting back, sometimes they just

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love love chatting, so you know, and Savini was kind of like that.

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It was it was great to talk
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again, you know, we didn't
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about his career, but I did, like, I was like,

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well, how about a quick picture? And he, you know, kind

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of taking a page out of Paul
Freeman's book. He snatches my cell phone

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away from me and says, I'll
do it. I'll take it. So

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clearly he has he has an angle
that he prefers. So but you know

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what, the man. The man
photographs as well as David Burns. So

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I'll say that about it. Dave. Let's talk a little bit about Friday

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the thirteenth. Oh man, please, anytime I have an opportunity to talk

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about Friday the thirteenth, I am
all over that As I've mentioned a mini

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podcasts before, the original Friday the
Thirteenth was my very first rated AR film,

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so it always holds a special place
in my heart. So when I

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knew I was going to this convention
and I was going to get to meet

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the final girl, you know,
Alice Adrian King, dude, I was

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like on top of the world.
And she was just so kind when we

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got to meet her, you know, it was very approachable. You know.

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She came out from around the counter, you know, to take the

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picture with me, and you know, of course I asked, he it's

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okay if I put my arm around
her. She goes, of course,

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go ahead, you know. And
then when we finished getting the picture,

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man, she just turned around and
just gave me this long, embracing hug.

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You know. But just she's just
a wonderful person. I'm so glad

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to see and meet her. It's
just, man, it made me feel

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good, not to mention, kind
of was blushing a little bit when I

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met her, and she even noticed
it too. She said, I love

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it being at my age and I
can make men still blush, and I

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love that well. She and she's
beautiful, right, yeah, I mean,

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wow, to see her to talk
with her just enchanting. You know,

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Dave, I'll tell you right now, you're if we have a Lando

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Calrisine in this group, it's you. You are definitely setting yourself up as

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the smooth talker because I know you
had a certain interaction with someone else at

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MotorCity. Later. Oh yeah,
yeah, you're you turned into quite of

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a player, my friend. You
know, they'll show up on the next

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show with the Cape. He's a
Scott Scotty. Should have seen him at

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at at Lexington and at motor City. He is I'll tell you he is.

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Uh, he's They're sweet on him, That's what I'll say. Yeah.

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Uh. Amy Steele who plays Ginny
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just beautiful woman, yep, full
of energy. You could tell she was

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loving, loving U being there.
How do you know in this situation like

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it's like, you know what,
let's let's get an autograph because these these

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are these are iconic characters that these
women played. Yep, and I love

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you know, they're having fun with
it. You know. Sometimes you'll you'll

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be in a you'll you'll see someone
they'll just sign their name and all right,

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move along. And sometimes they write
some fun stuff for you. Amy

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Steele wrote, Uh, wrote a
fun little catchphrase from Friday thirteenth two for

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me, you know, personalized it. But uh again, I could have

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talked to those two women the rest
of the day if time would have permitted.

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But but time did not permit,
Dave, because we had to talk

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to uh, we had to talk
to Jason Vorhees himself. Right, we

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did, Oh we did. And
of course you're talking about the man,

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the myth, Caine Hotter. Getting
to see him in person was something special

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to getting to see the Jason Vorhees. In my opinion, he still has

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00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.880
that like that book their shoulders that
you that you see on screen when he

409
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:21.279
plays Jason. Very cool guy,
you know, getting to sit back with

410
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:25.799
him to take pictures and stuff like
that. And Chad Cochran who plays Jason

411
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:27.799
for me and a lot of my
photo films. I got to mention to

412
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:33.400
him about Chad playing Jason, and
Caine of course asked, well how does

413
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.880
he play? I like? I
like that? He he looked up immediately

414
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:40.480
and said, how's how's he do? Yeah? How's how is he like?

415
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:42.519
Yeah? Like he wanted to know. He cared, you know,

416
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.359
you know, you are the king, sir. But you know, yeah,

417
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.319
he's he's got to look out for
the he's got to look out for

418
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:49.880
the character, right, of course
he does. And that's pretty much what

419
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.839
I told him. I said,
I said, Chad is a huge fan

420
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:55.039
of you, so of course he's
gonna betray you. But of course he's

421
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.440
never going to equal what you did
on screen, of course, not if

422
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.440
there's one thing I'll tell you about
Kane Hodder. The man is frighteningly strong.

423
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:06.839
So I had to take Dave,
you know, I had to do

424
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.400
like a professional photo with him,
of course, walk up to him,

425
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.640
you know, and I was like, you know what, how let's let's

426
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.359
uh, you know, I wanted
to kind of like a clowning shot.

427
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.480
So I was like, how about
let's throw your your your hands around my

428
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.079
neck, like your strangle on me. He's like, hey, I'm actually

429
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:22.759
I'm not allowed to do that anymore. So I don't know what happened in

430
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:27.799
the past, you know, but
he did. He did goes, you

431
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:32.359
know, he just goes, how
about if I punch you instead? Now

432
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.240
I don't know if he's kidding at
this point, Scott, but the photographers

433
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.440
like, all right, let's go. Cain puts a grip on me and

434
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.240
then, you know, I'm sure
what he felt was gentle gently presses his

435
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:51.279
fist into the side of my face
and it hurt. But you know,

436
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:53.160
I'm not about to complain because like
I'm like, you know, I got

437
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.960
I got a photo looking like King
Hotter punched me out, And at the

438
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:02.160
same time, I'm like, damn
that guy strong like that, you know,

439
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.000
like my jaw kind of was aching
for a little bit, and I

440
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.359
was like, you know what that's
I'm glad I could say Kane Hotter hurt

441
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.119
me at some point, at some
point, and I live to tell the

442
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.759
tale, right, yep, yep. This one actually was a fantastic experience.

443
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.799
It was fun talking, you know, talking with David Arquette. Couldn't

444
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:26.839
really talk a whole lot. He
actually had quite a huge drawl. You

445
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.519
know, there's several hundred people went
don't want to talk to him, So

446
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:32.160
that was kind of like a quick
one. But I'll tell you for me,

447
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:36.200
if there was, if there was
a big draw for me on this

448
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:42.200
one, getting the chance to speak
with the lovely Adrian Barbo. I know

449
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:45.960
she wasn't there Sunday when you guys
were with me. I actually was there

450
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.519
Saturday. Had had a great opportunity
to talk with her. One thing we

451
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.119
try to do when we hit these
conventions, we try to get miked up

452
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:57.000
and sometimes it works, sometimes it
doesn't. Sometimes you're not allowed to record.

453
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.599
Adrian Actually, uh, you know, this was the time we got.

454
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.680
I got to ask a fun question
about some of her work. So

455
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:15.240
here's a quick clip talking with Adrian
Barbo about her iconic role Stevie Wayne in

456
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:25.599
The Fog. Hello again, Adrian, who tho? Hello? Any chance

457
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:29.960
I could ask you a question for
our show? What's the show? A

458
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.960
film by podcast ends? And what
we're talking about? Just what kind of

459
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.160
So the quest I'll ask the question. You could say, no comment if

460
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.599
you want. My question was,
if royalties music royalties weren't an issue on

461
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:47.400
The Fog, what kind of music
would Stevie Wayne be playing rather than jazz?

462
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.960
So maybe it's Adrian's favorite music.
I'm not sure i'd have an answer

463
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.799
for you. I've never thought about
it about the music, About the music,

464
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.039
I always wondered, We've talked about
it before, like what would Stevie

465
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:06.839
what would Stee be playing? I'd
have to separate Stevie from myself. And

466
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:14.920
that's so what would Adrian be playing? Oh? Probably you know, seventies,

467
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:22.440
seventies, seventies pop Okay, Loggins
and Messina. Oh okay, nice

468
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:34.440
part, all great choices. I
know what what she might be playing.

469
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.200
And the name just went out of
my head, Eva Cassidy. Okay for

470
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:44.480
that kind of you know, for
for the Fire, for the for the

471
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:52.160
lighthouse. I love it. Okay, okay, enjoy your time, thanks,

472
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:59.799
Adrian. Yeah, so there you
have it. If you're wondering what

473
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:05.160
STEVIEE would have been playing in the
lighthouse, uh, direct from Adrian Barbo.

474
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.319
There's your answer. And uh,
I gotta tell you again. Another

475
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:15.640
incredible actress, you know, an
incredible body of work and just stunning in

476
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:21.200
person. She was absolutely delightful and
just amazing to talk to. I hope,

477
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:23.759
I absolutely hope I get to get
to see her again sometime. I

478
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:27.960
hope I get to meet her once, because unfortunately I couldn't be there the

479
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.000
day that she was there, and
you were lucky that you've got to meet

480
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.200
her, so I regret it,
but hey, hopefully I'll get to see

481
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.079
her me too. She said,
such an incredible career over the year.

482
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:38.720
Yes, I'd love to talk to
her about a lot of her appearances in

483
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:44.680
Swamp Thing. Yes, that's true. All right, So listen, we

484
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:50.160
are no strangers to the lexicon that
took place at this convention center. This

485
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:53.400
one was the Scare Fest. Uh
And I gotta say, guys, they

486
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:57.319
knocked it out of the park with
this one. Mm hmm, they absolutely

487
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.720
did. I like, I like
the conventions that are just focused on horror

488
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:01.359
at times, so it gives you
a little bit of a different vibe,

489
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:05.039
different feeling, and you get to
meet different people. But yeah, I'm

490
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.800
definitely going back to this one.
Yeah. You know, I'm not the

491
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:10.280
biggest horror fan, not like you
guys are. I mean, I love

492
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.800
the films, but I'm just not
into it like that. But I love

493
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.039
this convention. It was so much
fun and there's more. Even if you

494
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.079
don't like horror, this is a
place to go. It's great meeting these

495
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.360
people because they've so many of them
had so many different careers. You can

496
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.360
you know, like I'm there for
Star Trek and you could there was a

497
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.719
horror convention. The dealers were fantastic. There were a lot of interesting stuff

498
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.880
and I even found some comic books
there, and it was a great time.

499
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:37.320
I definitely want to go back to
this one. And you know,

500
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.280
another thing, really cool thing about
this one too. I don't know if

501
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.559
you guys noticed it or not,
but there was a lot of space.

502
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.400
Some of these conventions are like a
little crowded, a little tight, like

503
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:50.039
in the dealers, the hallways,
this kind of thing. There was plenty

504
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.760
of room at Lexing and Scarefft where
you could just like you were not shoulder

505
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.760
to shoulder with somebody. It was
really nice. I love that. Yeah,

506
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.239
you're right. And there were a
lot of guests there. I mean

507
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.880
we didn't have and a fraction.
We probably didn't even get to about ten

508
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:06.360
of them, ten percent of them, so many of them, but they

509
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.880
were all spaced out perfectly. Was
easy to get to, you know,

510
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:15.119
the lines were very manageable, they
were Scott, I know you weren't with

511
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.639
us at the scare Fest, obviously
you're with us at the Lexicon. Uh,

512
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.760
this would have this would have been
a great one for you, Scott,

513
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:23.760
and you were there in spirit.
I did I did happen to name

514
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:30.000
drop you and Dave on On Saturday, I had a had a quick meeting

515
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:35.039
with Ken four E nice. I
had no. I had to. I

516
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.719
had to take the opportunity to tell
him about the the Dawn of the Dead

517
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.480
episode that you and Dave did on
a film at forty five, which he

518
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:45.440
kind of, you know, he
appreciated. You know, we got these

519
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:51.840
these incredible actresses, making Dave Burns
blush. I might I may have inadvertently

520
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.880
made Ken far E blush because I
also Dave. I brought up the the

521
00:35:54.920 --> 00:36:00.199
From Beyond episode. Oh yeah,
we did on eighty six, you know,

522
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.599
just like hey, you know,
I told him. I was like,

523
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:07.119
man, you were in incredible shape. You're running around in those bikini

524
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.199
briefs. And he, you know, let out that that that that deep

525
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.159
laugh that he has and he's like, yeah, I don't know if I

526
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:14.079
can do that now. I was
like, I was like, I don't

527
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:15.679
know, man, like you you
look like you're a pretty incredible shape.

528
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:22.599
Still, So yeah, great time. Absolutely, Uh enjoyed myself there.

529
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.119
And and Wayne, you're absolutely right
due. I think we this one needs

530
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.480
two days because I think we only
saw a fraction of what this one would

531
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:36.480
offer. Well, guys, let's
move on to the one we just got

532
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.440
back from Uh, we were up
in Detroit at the Motor City Comic Con.

533
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.199
We are no stranger to this one. This was our what our third

534
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:47.599
time? Well, I say my
third time, Dave, you're maybe your

535
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:52.000
third time. I think it's my
fifth, isn't we it's my fifth this

536
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:57.559
one. Yeah. It's like Scott, I know you've been to Uh,

537
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:01.039
you've been to one with us?
Yeah, and then Wayne obviously is there

538
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.440
has there been a MotorCity Comic Con
that you've missed? Oh, quite a

539
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.559
few of them. Yeah, you
know, I've been only to ten of

540
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:10.920
them, you know, in the
last like twenty years, and they happened

541
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:19.400
twice a year. Yeah, this
one again just a huge turnout. MotorCity

542
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.079
Comic Con always puts on a good
event. Yeah. The big draw here

543
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:28.599
probably David Harber, who I didn't
think we were going to get near him,

544
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.599
you know, with with the popularity
of Stranger Things and hell Boy and

545
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:38.000
everything else he's got going on.
But Peter Weller is there with the OCP

546
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:44.239
Ford Taurus police car, which was
really cool to see that up close.

547
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:51.480
Yes, and the cast of Cobra
Kai, you know, my one of

548
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.840
my all time favorites, one of
my heroes William Zabka is there. You

549
00:37:54.880 --> 00:38:05.800
know, Machio's there. We know
how you feel about Machio, Jeff cross

550
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:10.559
Roads, cross Roads Listen, all
right, you know what I'm gonna jump

551
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.920
in right there, because uh,
I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna call

552
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:16.639
it like I see it, Dave. And you know I panted, I

553
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.960
pointed this, I pointed this out
to you. So let me tell you

554
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:23.519
about let me tell you about the
Cobra Kai side. Okay, first off,

555
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:30.800
Scott Zobka, he I mean it
was like everyone was there for him

556
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:35.000
and you could tell, you know, you know Martin Cove. You got

557
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.679
Martin Cove there, who was famous
for playing since a Crease. A lot

558
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.400
of people happy to see him,
you know, we Dave. We got

559
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:45.960
to meet him back at a Horror
Hound last year. So he is awesome.

560
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.559
He is. He has a lot
of fun because he kind of likes

561
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:52.639
to stay in character too, which
is really cool. And yes, Ralph

562
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.599
Machio's there, Scott. But here's
what I'm gonna I'm gonna point out.

563
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:01.920
William Zapka and Martin Cove. They're
signing autographs and they're taking pictures right like

564
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:06.119
most of the you know, pretty
much all the celebrities do. And Scott,

565
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:10.679
here's the thing. These guys are
walking around the table to come out,

566
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.320
put their arm around the the you
know, the fan, and take

567
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:22.039
a nice photo. Machio is not
doing that, Scott. He is charging

568
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:27.400
eighty bucks for a selfie and he's
leaning over the table and having the person

569
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.519
leaning you know. I mean,
I'm like, I looked at David was

570
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:35.880
like, come on, you know
really, I just couldn't believe it.

571
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:37.639
Man, Like, am I wrong? Am I Am I being a dick

572
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:42.079
for calling Machio out? I mean
I don't. I don't know if there

573
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.199
was something going on that maybe he
didn't want to be around people too much.

574
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.199
But I agree with you because when
we looked over, there was a

575
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:50.880
sweet little girl trying to get her
picture with him, and he's literally just

576
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.760
like leaning over the table and she's
doing her best to lean back over the

577
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:58.000
table to get her picture with him. And I was like, oh,

578
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.239
I'm ridiculous. Yeah, Scott,
this girl was maybeen seven. I mean,

579
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.320
she's like three feet tall. She's
she's on her tiptoes trying. You

580
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.840
know, there's probably like two or
two and a half feet between them on

581
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.320
this you know, I'm like,
come on, just keep in mind,

582
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.440
his last name is Machio, not
LaRusso he's not the character. It's okay,

583
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.639
well, no, maybe something's going
on. But I hear what you're

584
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.400
saying, Like, there's there's some
actors that you see that go out of

585
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.679
their way to be very personable and
they're with their their fans and also other

586
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.800
kind of stuff. So hats off
to Zobda for that. Yeah, and

587
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.760
you know, Scott, you're absolutely
right. His name is not LaRusso it's

588
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.400
Machio. And to to that point, I would say, hey, look,

589
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.880
you play a villain in Karate Kid, you don't have to be a

590
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:45.480
villain in real life. Right,
So I'm like, come on, you

591
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:51.519
know, and hang on, I'm
getting a call from Dayton Johnson. Hold

592
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.199
up, stop no, But and
you know, in all fairness, though,

593
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.599
you never know. I mean,
maybe maybe he's not feeling good,

594
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.480
maybe he's worried, you know about
you know, I mean it works were

595
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.760
coming up in the winter season,
you know, so I get it.

596
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.880
You know, sometimes you will keep
your distance and that's that's totally cool.

597
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:12.920
But but if that's the case,
you know, let's let your audience know

598
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:15.559
that's that's all. I'm gonna exactly
right. I agree, You're right.

599
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:19.360
Yep, yep, Wayne. Let's
move on. Let's move on to a

600
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:25.440
nicer topic. Wayne, you had
the opportunity to meet a legend in the

601
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:31.599
world of Star Trek. Oh yes, one of the originals, Walter Koenig

602
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:38.880
check Off himself. I mean,
it is such an honor to meet any

603
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:45.679
of the cast surviving cast members of
the original Star Trek. It's very rare

604
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.400
now and this is actually David reminded
me, this is actually the second time.

605
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:52.880
And David, you are right.
We didn't meet him twenty some years

606
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:58.599
ago Dragon Con, where I got
him autographed from Babylon five, another show

607
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:02.800
that I absolutely love. This time
I was here for Star Trek and he

608
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:09.719
did not disappoint. A lovely man, incredibly friendly and thank you, Thank

609
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:15.039
you both. Jeff paid to get
a selfie taken with me and him,

610
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:21.719
which I absolutely love. He's It's
just incredible. I can't believe I actually

611
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:28.840
another classic Star Trek actor that i've
you know, I've got my photograph with

612
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:30.960
him. Now I've got his autograph
on my poster. You know, this

613
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:36.280
is this is like royalty for my
poster. Yeah, you guys, you

614
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:42.760
guys are the the Star Trek experts
as far as I'm concerned. But I'm

615
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:46.920
the Star Trek enthusiast. And as
you guys know, I loved the original

616
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:52.559
series, and so even for me, it was a starstruck moment because I'm

617
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.400
looking at a living legend right in
front of me and just could not believe.

618
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:59.000
I'm like, wow, check Off
is right in front of me.

619
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:00.360
He's you know, we're tall,
talking with Chekhov. This is this is

620
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.320
incredible. So that was a bit
of a star truck moment for me.

621
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.679
I have to admit that, you
know, wonderful, wonderful man. He

622
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.320
was wonderful man. Wayne. Uh, I know, I know one one

623
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.559
person you were looking to to have
signed one of the one of the posters

624
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:22.840
was a was a little little affectionate
right, Yes, he was the the

625
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:29.960
anti Ralph Maccio. That was Doug
Jones. He plays Sorrow on Star Trek

626
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:36.559
Discovery. And I've met a lot
a lot of actors over the whole many

627
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.719
many conventions that I've been to,
and so many of them are incredibly friendly.

628
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:44.239
We've talked about a lot of them
just today about how friendly are with

629
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:49.320
this guy. He he has taken
it to a completely different level. He

630
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:52.400
talked. It was it took a
while to get through his line. I

631
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:58.719
will say that, but because he
put his center of attention to each person

632
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:05.480
he spoke to them, He talked
to them in length about what very subjects,

633
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.480
and he wouldn't let anyone leave without
getting a very big, affectionate hug.

634
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.960
Now, I'm not much of a
hugger. I'm one of those you

635
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:16.079
know, don't bust my bubble people. Everybody knows that. So you know,

636
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:19.920
my eyes nearly popping out of my
head when he's coming around the table

637
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.719
and giving me this big bear hug. And he is a very very tall

638
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.920
guy. He's like like, I
don't know how tall he is, but

639
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.639
he's like six seven six eight.
And you're not a sure guy, Wayne,

640
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:31.840
No I'm not. I'm six'
one. But yeah, here he

641
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.000
is wrapping his arms around me,
and and you know, I'm like,

642
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:40.639
I can't believe this. This is
this is fantastic. If you get a

643
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:44.320
chance to meet him, meet him
and get a hug from him, it's

644
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:49.719
it's definitely a different experience. Yeah
he uh, Wayne. One thing I

645
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:53.960
always love about the doing these cons
with you is seeing you get excited about

646
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:59.960
actors and actresses that I'm excited about. But then you're excited about it because

647
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.800
because of Star Treker, because of
Doctor Who and I and I never have

648
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.840
a clue that they're they're in their
shows, you know, because you're like,

649
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:07.280
oh, Doug Jones, I'm like, oh, yeah, the guy

650
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.239
from the Shape of Water. He
was an hell boy. You know Pan's

651
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.719
Labyrinth, Like, this guy is
amazing. He's like he's like you know,

652
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.039
he's like he's like bowling buddies with
Andy Serkis, you know, as

653
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.360
far as someone turned so and then
you're like, no, he was in

654
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:27.239
episode six of season twelve. I'm
like, okay, well now I know

655
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.760
that too. And to all of
you old timers out there like me and

656
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.599
David, I learned something about him
that back in the eighties there were these

657
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:40.960
commercials from McDonald's, the mac Tonight
commercials, and he played the Mac Tonight.

658
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.400
That was his first job. I
didn't know that, and I actually

659
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:46.960
that kind of thrilled me. I
thought that was pretty cool. Yeah.

660
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:49.920
As a little kid, I was
like, wait, the Crescent Moon guy,

661
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.199
and you're like, yesh, yep, that's Tim, I never knew

662
00:45:53.239 --> 00:46:00.559
that. I'll tell you one getting
the opportunity to talk with uh, with

663
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:02.840
someone there that I was excited about. I gotta talk. I gotta tell

664
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:08.920
you guys, a quick quick bit
about Donald Gibb. Now, anyone that

665
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:13.280
watched movies in the nineteen eighties you
know this guy. He was. He

666
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:16.679
was Ogre and the Revenge of the
Nerds movies. I loved him as Jackson

667
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:22.079
in blood Sport. And he's there
and again this is one of those situations,

668
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:24.079
Dave, where you know, we
were miked up and he was.

669
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:29.880
He was totally cool with answer some
questions about his career, and he had

670
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:36.840
this to say about some of his
uncredited work. Thank god for you,

671
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:40.920
or I would all right, big
dog ready, yeah, thanks, make

672
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.199
him look, make me look talking
to him. Quick question for you,

673
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:49.519
if I could ask you a question
for our show. You get your start

674
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.519
in nineteen eighty You got a couple
of credited roles, right, you got

675
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.559
any which way you can. You
got stripes and you got tonal strips.

676
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:58.280
I got credit. Oh you didn't
get credit. You were the okay,

677
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:00.559
because I know you were at the
were your at the mud Rest Fort Candy

678
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.199
was getting his ass beat. Oh
was he yeah? And finally he looks

679
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:06.639
at the director because you can't have
these girls doing this to me. Man,

680
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:08.719
I'm I'm fat, you know.
And John was so out of breath.

681
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:12.000
I was getting a little worried,
and I told the director, I

682
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:14.280
go, you've got to watch him, and he's breathing hard. You didn't

683
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.039
live much longer, you know.
Yeah, you're right, but you know

684
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:20.800
those girls will be Yeah. I'm
like, no, they can't do that,

685
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.960
you know. But yeah, that
movie was weird too. H mc

686
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:27.599
murray's not as nice as guy as
you think. I was shocked because I

687
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.599
thought he was awesome guy. But
it was fine. Awesome man, thanks

688
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:36.159
so much, absolutely all right,
I appreciate you. Oh that is perfect,

689
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:43.039
that is oh, thank you.
The funny thing here is that the

690
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:45.679
exact opposite experience of Kane Hodder.
So I'm gonna take a photo with him

691
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:47.639
at you know where we're at his
table. He's like, yeah, let's

692
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.239
take a quick photo. I didn't
ask him, I just I just leaned

693
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:52.800
in. I was like, let's
take a nice photo. And then he

694
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:59.840
proceeded to wrap his giant hands around
my throat and uh and and squeeze.

695
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.880
So so yeah, I'm not clowning
as much. I'm like I need air.

696
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:07.079
Yeah, this Donald Gibbs is a
just a giant of a man and

697
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:12.440
still still every bit as powerful as
he was on the mat in blood Sport.

698
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:16.199
Great time talking to him. So
you're getting an autograph with a bonus

699
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:23.760
assault charge from all these Yeah,
he's gonna have a collection of all these

700
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:29.119
over the years. People cho punching. What is going on? Yeah,

701
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.800
I love it. It was It
was fun time speaking of great conversations.

702
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.480
So, Dave, now as we
know, we initially were really excited.

703
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:44.719
Karen Allen was was scheduled to appear
at the Motor City Comic Con. Sadly

704
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:50.159
she had to cancel her appearance.
Kind of fortuitous for us because there was

705
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:57.000
a last minute addition to take her
place. A woman every bit as lovely

706
00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:02.079
as Karen Allen, every bit as
talented, Dave, Who did we meet?

707
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:07.119
That would be the lovely, talented
and very intelligent Mary McDonald. If

708
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.800
anyone who doesn't know who Mary McDonald
is, she has been in a lot

709
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:14.760
of stuff, but for me,
the one thing that immediately stood out is

710
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:19.559
dances with wolves. She plays stands
with a fist and I was excited to

711
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.360
meet her because I absolutely love dances
with wolves and you know, but you

712
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:27.400
know, she played the First Lady
and Independence Day. She played President Laura

713
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:31.760
Roslin in the Battlestar Galactica, and
just recently Madeline Usher in the Netflix series

714
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:37.360
The Fall of the House of Usher. She was very excited to talk about

715
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:43.039
the Fall of the House of Usher. Because of the strike, they were

716
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.800
not allowed to talk about anything,
so this was like her first time in

717
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:50.639
public getting to meet fans and get
to be able to talk about the new

718
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.719
series. But anyway, Jeff and
I got in line. We went up

719
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:57.559
to Mary McDonald and you know,
she's very very friendly, you know,

720
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.000
talking to all of her fans and
stuff like that and taking her time.

721
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.719
I'm getting pictures with people. As
soon as Jeff and I approached, you

722
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:05.599
know, to get you know,
to meet her, and I put my

723
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.920
picture down to get an autograph.
She turns to us and immediately apologizes and

724
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:14.480
he goes, I'm sorry, guys, I'm very chatty. Thinking in my

725
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:17.400
mind, we don't mind you being
chatty. We love that fact, you

726
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:21.039
know, I don't want somebody who's
just going to sign something and sends you

727
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:22.159
on your way, you know.
I mean, I know we've got lines

728
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:27.719
and people are waiting, but I
really appreciate when an actor or a guest,

729
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:29.559
you know, takes their time with
you, you know, just as

730
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:32.559
Wayne mentioned with Doug Jones. But
you know, I was immediately crushing on

731
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:39.360
Mary McDonald because she is stunning,
Jeff oh, And I just was very

732
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:45.559
impressed by her presence, and what
I mean by that is she was just

733
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:51.239
so so smart, so intelligent,
and just wanted to have very long conversations

734
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.119
about what was going on, you
know, in the world, what was

735
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:55.400
going on in her career, what
was going on other films, and what

736
00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:00.239
I learned about her. She would
always turn the conversation onto other PEO people

737
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:05.440
that she's worked with and would admire
on them, and she did that with

738
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:07.800
Mike Flanagan. You know, when
we got to go to her panel,

739
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:10.119
and you know that that's what she
mentioned to us right away. She goes,

740
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.599
I've been telling everybody, will you
please go to my panel? Because

741
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.119
she had just been announced just a
few days before the convention, so not

742
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.559
a lot of people knew she was
going to be there, so she was

743
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:21.559
asking everybody please go to my panel, please go to my panel, which

744
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.639
we did, of course, but
man, she was just so fantastic.

745
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:29.880
I love talking to her, getting
to know her, and I would love

746
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:34.920
to talk and meet her again,
Jeff. She was just something special listening

747
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.400
to and her panel, just talking
and just glowing about things that were going

748
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:42.320
on in her career, you know, getting to hear and I won't go

749
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.559
into details because hopefully we'll get to
talk to her, but getting to hear

750
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.000
her story of how she got the
role of Stands with a Fist with Kevin

751
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:52.880
Costner was fantastic. But getting to
hear her origin story of how she became

752
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:58.239
an actor was just really neat to
hear. And whene you were there,

753
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:00.159
Jeff, you know, we got
to hear all that together, and it

754
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.400
was just you're glued to her,
everything that's coming off of her lips.

755
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.559
You're just you're on as your seat
listening to her because she's just so good

756
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:10.360
at talking and speaking, and I
could listen to her all damn day.

757
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:16.360
And that's the truth. She is
very intelligent, very articulate, and very

758
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:22.280
engaging. I was enthralled listening to
her talk and we we had a little

759
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:27.000
bit of fun with her too,
because, as Dave maybe failed to mention,

760
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.920
we're we're you know, we're we're
talking with her maybe a couple minutes

761
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:34.159
into the conversation, and she's smiling
at us and she goes, oh,

762
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:38.000
so are you guys a couple,
which we were like, no, we

763
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:40.039
are, no, no, no, no, you know, no we

764
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:45.079
are not, but we do we
do work together, you know. And

765
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:46.639
then she, you know, she
kind of she saw the shirts and she's

766
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:50.360
like, hey, she's like,
well, what's the show. We get

767
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:53.559
a quick opportunity to tell her what
a film buy is all about, and

768
00:52:53.840 --> 00:53:00.119
Dave, she quickly had several suggestions
her future episodes, and we you know,

769
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:05.400
we did assure her that we will, we'll be talking about them.

770
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:09.920
We did assure her that we'll be
covering them here very soon. But absolutely

771
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:15.679
just an absolutely wonderful woman, and
uh, you're right, Dave. You

772
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.280
know, we we've reached out.
We hope, hope we'll we'll get to

773
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:24.719
talk with miss McDonald once more,
but which could potentially be three hour podcast

774
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:31.840
because she loves to talk like that's
a welcome podcast. Yes, yes it

775
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:36.159
is, Yes it is. Scott. We missed you at this one man,

776
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:39.239
are you going to be with us
at the next Motor City Comic Con.

777
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:43.480
Yeah, I want to go back. It was my first experience.

778
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:47.360
Was a great experience, especially when
you had a chance to talk to Daryl

779
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:52.559
McDaniel's d MC and just your reaction
when you were done with that conversation,

780
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:54.599
you were just on top of the
world. Uh. They've got a great

781
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:58.960
layout, They've always got a great
draw with the talent. I'd love to

782
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:01.559
make the pilgrimage back up there well
as we as we start to wrap up,

783
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:06.960
I do want to call out a
couple vendors that that we had the

784
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:12.719
had some nice interaction with at several
of these cons. As as Wayne was

785
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.119
pointing out, there are just I
mean there are wall to wall. There's

786
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:20.599
some incredible stuff here. You know, merchandise you know you're not going to

787
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:23.480
see online, you're not going to
see in the stores, and sometimes you,

788
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:29.760
uh, you have an opportunity to
meet and connect with with creators and

789
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:35.000
and get get some really cool stuff, whether it's a commissioned work or or

790
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:38.039
just like, hey, this is
exclusive to this con. Scott. Uh,

791
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:43.719
you want to tell us a little
bit about the art of John Wright.

792
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:47.679
Yeah, I mean at Cincinnati Comic
Expo. My two big draws were

793
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:52.760
Adam Savage and jw Art Studios.
The Art of John Wright. Now,

794
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.880
John is a regular contributor and friend
that's joined us on the Duck and Base

795
00:54:55.880 --> 00:55:01.239
seventy seven podcast. It creates stunning
original art based on a range of pop

796
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:06.239
culture icons. Most notably the one
that I treasure the most are an original

797
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:10.599
commission he did for us featuring an
iconic scene from nineteen seventy eight Superman just

798
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:15.800
after Miss test Maker saves Superman from
drowning. He did an amazing piece featuring

799
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:21.840
our friend Valerie Perin and Christopher Reeves
sharing a moment after impromptu kiss. Now,

800
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:27.079
we also had a chance to see
a gallery of his work behind him,

801
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:35.320
which ranges from the Crow to Batman
to Wolverine like Spider Man, so

802
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:37.800
many different ones. But the one
that I really wanted to get my hands

803
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:42.000
on in person was this fantastic set
of prints where he blends the Scooby Gang

804
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.079
with a famous movie monsters that we
wish we would have seen on the screen.

805
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:49.119
And he's continued, yes, and
he's continuing to build on that,

806
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:52.880
which I love. It's a great
idea, It's beautifully painted, He has

807
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:57.239
a passion and dedication to the characters
that we love, and his work is

808
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:02.800
always a feature in our studio.
Whenever you had a chance to take a

809
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.159
look at the vendors to stop and
see some of the work and get to

810
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:12.199
chat with them about their passion for
what they're do, for what they do,

811
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:16.519
it's it's always a great experience and
I can't wait to get my hands

812
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:21.920
on more of John's work. Yeah, I bought the whole set of Scooby

813
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.719
Doo than he did. I bought
the whole set because they were just fantastic,

814
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:28.000
And so I don't have room on
my walls, but I will find

815
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.880
room eventually because I had to own
those. Yeah. Yeah. One of

816
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:35.280
my favorite pieces of art I have
on the wall right now is I was

817
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:38.639
lucky enough to get a print of
that that Superman Miss Test Mocker moment that

818
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:45.559
Scott was just a minute ago.
Yeah, just just gorgeous. And I'll

819
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:50.639
point this out and this is this
is coming from John Wright himself. You

820
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:52.400
know a lot of times you go
by and and sometimes you don't want to

821
00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:57.400
make eye contact right with this vendor
or this table, because you know you

822
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.159
feel like you're gonna get pressured into
like, hey, come by, I

823
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:04.000
come buy, come buy. That's
not the case. You know, John

824
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.920
will be the first one to tell
you he's happy. You know, just

825
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:09.320
just stop by, say hello.
You know, talk comics, talk movies,

826
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:15.239
talk music. You know, it's
a chance to connect with their audiences

827
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:21.920
too. So don't feel like you're
pressured to buy something, because I truthfully,

828
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:24.880
every booth I've been into, at
all these cons I've never once felt

829
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:29.440
felt that kind of vibe. You
know, these are these are fans,

830
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.679
these are creators, and they're here
to talk with you, to talk with

831
00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:37.000
other fans and creators. So I
would encourage you whether you know, stop

832
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.199
talk yeah, yeah, And I
mean if if it's if it's a case

833
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:44.039
where you're not ready to buy something, if it's a case where it's not

834
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:46.960
quite in your budget, be honest, they'll understand. You're just really giving

835
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:52.360
them a chance to talk about their
work and connect with people, which is

836
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:54.880
why they're there. Obviously, they're
there to you know, hopefully sell their

837
00:57:54.880 --> 00:58:00.440
product and promote it. But at
the very least you can pick up their

838
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:02.079
info, you can pick up a
business card, you can look into them

839
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:07.039
later. I highly recommend that because
it really it opens up the world for

840
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:12.480
you in this this pop culture environment, and you'll learn new things too.

841
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.840
Because I won't give anything away,
but that idea. John Wright told us

842
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:21.280
that he's working on that that I
cannot wait for that market. Yeah,

843
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.440
that's going to be fantastic. Yeah. And I mean all these movies that

844
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:28.199
we're talking about, all this work
that we're talking about, you know,

845
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.280
getting an original piece of art like
that from somebody who knows the kind of

846
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:37.440
scenes and kind of you know,
characters to capture, it's it's a great

847
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:43.840
opportunity. One other vendor I gotta
talk about. I gotta let our listeners

848
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:49.559
know about we We we seen them
at the since a comic expo. We

849
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:53.760
could miss them because of the presence. They have maybe one of the best

850
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:59.119
setups at a comic con. If
you know, when we're talking about vendors,

851
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:01.639
you know, this company might have
one of the best ones. I

852
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:06.119
mean, it's it is, it's
it just it draws you in. Okay,

853
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.000
they're also at the Motor City Comic
Con. I'm talking about the Euphoric

854
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:17.719
tree Fort and what they specialize in
is something called smellovision candles. So let

855
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:21.480
me just tell you a little bit
about this this this company, because they're

856
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:28.639
they're incredible. Smellovision candles have authentic
aromas that enhance the viewing experience of your

857
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:35.639
favorite movies and shows. These are
one hundred percent soy and have incredible burn

858
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:39.400
times. They burn clean, and
the smells are outrageous what they have come

859
00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:44.239
up with. You know, you
see a movie, you hear a movie.

860
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:50.000
How about you smell a movie.
And these candles are designed to burn

861
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.960
while you're watching your favorite show or
your favorite movie, to really immerse you

862
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:57.719
in the experience. So, for
example, I'll tell you right now,

863
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:01.199
most war movies, most Westerns,
I can't watch them anymore without burning one

864
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:05.679
I happen to pick up from them
called the Bastards, which is a play

865
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:10.480
on inglorious bastards. This candle smells
exactly like gun smoke, bourbon, and

866
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:15.000
dry leaves. I don't know how
they do it, but it's there.

867
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:16.360
Dave, you have smelled that candle, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

868
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:20.119
I have I smelled all the candles
that you know that we approach,

869
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.679
and I couldn't believe how how much
they smell like it. They have a

870
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:28.360
wide variety of incredible smells that will
take you into any movie or any TV

871
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.679
show you that you're watching, and
even if you're not too sure one of

872
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:36.159
my favorites, it's kind of quickly
becoming my go to. They have one

873
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:40.360
called Movie Theater, which smells exactly
like popcorn and cola, and Scott,

874
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:44.800
you pointed out the last time we
were hanging out, You're like, how

875
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:47.800
do they get the soda smell in
with the popcorn? It's there, It's

876
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:52.880
on the lid, you know.
Yeah, so if you had to guess,

877
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.199
how many movies can you get at
a one candle? Actually, we'll

878
01:00:55.199 --> 01:01:00.960
be able to quote David, one
of the proprietors of the u Ford Tree

879
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:02.920
Fort. We were talking to him. I know, we're planning to have

880
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:07.760
him on the show soon. Scott. I'm already thinking like we need to

881
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:10.079
have like a little vendor spotlight.
Yeah, maybe maybe we invite John on

882
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:15.320
to talk about his art in his
future projects. Maybe we have David from

883
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:20.320
u Ford Tree Fort on to talk
about the smell of vision candles and what

884
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.920
they got coming out next, because
they you know, he's excited. They've

885
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:25.239
got a lot going on, and
I'm telling you right now, a movie

886
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:30.280
a movie experience is h is not
a full movie experience without one of these

887
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.039
candles as far as I'm concerned,
Yeah, I would love to hear from

888
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:37.039
them like a pairing right to say
it, like, yeah, the bastards

889
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:42.559
watch it with these five movies for
example, that'd be fantastic. I'm gonna

890
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:44.559
reach out to him and I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell him,

891
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:45.599
we're gonna, we're gonna quiz you. You know, we're gonna give you,

892
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:50.880
like we're gonna give you five movies
and you tell us what we need

893
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.079
to what we need to pick up
from the u Ford Tree affort. Yeah,

894
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:59.119
great, great idea. Yep,
Wayne, Where are we heading next?

895
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:05.159
Well as together as the convent,
We're heading to Galaxy Con twenty twenty

896
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:09.880
three in Columbus, Ohio. That
is the first weekend of December. But

897
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:16.559
before that, I'm taking a solo
mission to Chicago for Thanksgiving weekend. This

898
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:23.440
is the twenty third anniversary Convention Chicago
Tartis, which is a specific Doctor Who

899
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:30.159
convention, the main convention of the
East Coast. It's a fantastic Doctor Who

900
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:34.840
convention. This year being the sixtieth
anniversary of the series. They've got some

901
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:39.639
incredible guests up there, including three
doctors themselves, Peter Davison, Colin Baker,

902
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:45.119
and Sevester McQuay, along with what
I consider one of Doctor Who royalty,

903
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:50.840
Carolyn Ford, the original companion from
nineteen sixty three, is going to

904
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:54.280
be there. It's held every Thanksgiving, phenomenally good convention, and for the

905
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:59.880
first time ever, all of us
convention goers there will be able to set

906
01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:05.400
down and watch a brand new episode
of Doctor Who being transmitted that Saturday,

907
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:12.800
along with its director Nice That is
gonna be huge. Well, let me

908
01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:16.679
ask you this, Wayne, back
to Galaxy Con. There are just there's

909
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:20.559
gotta be at least one hundred people
we could we could talk about right now

910
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:24.480
that are gonna be at Galaxy Con
and listeners, I would just tell you

911
01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:30.760
go online, pull up Galaxy Con
twenty twenty three, look at the guest

912
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:37.760
list. You will be blown away. Wayne. I'll ask you one or

913
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:43.000
two people that you're you're excited to
meet, excited to talk with. Anyone

914
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:45.119
come to mind. Are you still
looking over the list? Oh? Well,

915
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:47.719
I mean no, I've got my
list picked out. There are a

916
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:51.880
lot of Star Trek guests there,
so my poster is going to gain I

917
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:55.760
believe it was the loving names.
Plus there's there's others. I mean,

918
01:03:55.800 --> 01:04:02.239
I'm really excited to meet William Shatner. Who else what other name could be

919
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:06.559
higher on the list to get for
the poster than William Shatner, And so

920
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:14.440
Captain Kirk never met him, and
I'm looking forward to not only meeting him,

921
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:18.159
but getting my photo taken with him. And I'm really excited about meeting

922
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:23.840
Ron Perlman. I mean, you
know, he's another legend. I remember

923
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:27.400
back in the eighties watching him on
a TV show called Viewing the Beast and

924
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:30.639
then also including his name. You
know, he was one of the main

925
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:34.800
villains with Tom Hardy on Star Trek
Nemesis. So I'm happy to be able

926
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:38.559
to add his name to the post. All right, Scott, you're gonna

927
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:43.000
be there. Who you looking forward
to seeing? The absolute top of my

928
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:48.679
list has got to be Peter Cullen, iconic voice actor behind Optimus prime E

929
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:56.880
or Monterey Jack from Chippendale Rescue Rangers. Now this year he's getting honored with

930
01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:01.119
a Lifetime Achievement Award by the National
Academy of Television Arts Sciences. And this

931
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:05.559
is a This is a voice that
means a lot to me, and I

932
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:12.199
cannot wait to meet Peter Uh.
There's a lot of Star Trek Royalty that's

933
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:16.559
going to be there. It would
be great to meet Todd Stashwick, Captain

934
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:24.639
Shaw from Piccard season and you know
a few that are you maybe you might

935
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:30.039
not see at many cons, but
I'm very much looking forward to seeing Noel

936
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:33.559
McNeil, who is Bear in the
Big Blue House as a you know,

937
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:39.480
father of a puppeteer. I've got
to meet Noel McNeil, Chris Sarandon from

938
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:43.800
Fright Night, Princess Bride in the
Nightmare before Christmas. That's a big draw.

939
01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:46.400
I know that my my youngest son
is interested in seeing Ken Page Bogie

940
01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:51.480
Boogie from Nightmare before Christmas. And
you know a friend of mine is going

941
01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:58.159
to be there. James A.
Willis is Ohio's award winning paranormal researcher and

942
01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:00.920
author. He has a lot of
great books, a lot of great stories

943
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:08.440
about the supernatural and the paranormal in
Ohio. So if you want to talk

944
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:11.960
about a show that has a big
range, galaxy count is it. So

945
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.159
that's who I'm going to be checking
out this time. What about you,

946
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:17.920
Dave. There's so many at this
convention. It's ridiculous. I know they

947
01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:20.360
kept adding and kept adding and saying, oh my god, this convention is

948
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:24.159
going to be ridiculous. One of
the guests that are going to be here

949
01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:27.599
a few of the guys that you
both have already mentioned, But the top

950
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:30.599
of the list is Ron Perlman for
me, because he's been in so much

951
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:34.239
over the years. But I can't
wait to get his autographed from HELBOWI because

952
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:40.440
that's just what I remember Ron Perlman
really from. But let's not forget Evangeline.

953
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:43.960
Lily's going to be there. You
know, I look forward to meeting

954
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.000
her. But one that I really
want to meet, and I know Jeff

955
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.360
is going to probably agree with me
on this, somebody I never thought I

956
01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:53.239
would get to meet, and that
is, of course, Anthony Michael Hall.

957
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:57.280
Yeah. I cannot wait to meet
him, not just for the fact

958
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.880
that he was in Halloween Kills recently, but we know his career growing up

959
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:04.440
in the eighties and what films he
was in, so we all growing up

960
01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:06.599
with the movies that he was in. I cannot wait to meet him.

961
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.599
I'll tell you right now, I'll
be right next to you, guys when

962
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:14.440
you were talking to William Shatner,
to Peter Cullen, to Ron Pearlman.

963
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:18.599
But you better believe for me,
this is my opportunity to meet one of

964
01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:25.559
the greatest individuals on the planet.
I'm talking about sixteen time world heavyweight champion

965
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:29.639
Rick the nature Boy Flair. Rick
Flair is going to be there, and

966
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:34.920
I'm so excited for this. Uh
oh yeah, you'll be able to where

967
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:41.639
his table is because you'll just hear
that. Like, my understanding is that

968
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:45.880
he actually gets sick of that when
people do that to him. I'm not

969
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:46.840
going to ask him to do that. If he wants to, woo,

970
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:53.719
I will, I'll certainly accept it. But Mike Tyson Iron Mike is going

971
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:57.320
to be there. Hit King Pete
Rose is going to be there. So

972
01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:02.159
I really dig the fact that Galaxyican
is leaning into some sports legends as well.

973
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:05.679
And you know he's not gonna be
the only pro wrestler there. I

974
01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:10.119
mean, our buddy Sergeant Slaughter is
going to be there, The Hardy Boys,

975
01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:15.520
Hacksaw, Jim Duggan, Alison,
Kaylita, Trish Stratus, Kevin Nash,

976
01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:18.880
who I actually I got a fun
Kevin Nash story for you, guys.

977
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:21.960
Not the first time i'd meet him. I met him a long time

978
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:26.319
ago. Even guys like Mick Foley
are going to be there, So this

979
01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:30.640
one is gonna be huge. I
dare say Galaxy Com might be the biggest

980
01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.439
one that we typically go to every
year, right, I think, yeah,

981
01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:41.359
definitely worth doing two days with that
to spread it out absolutely well,

982
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.520
guys, I think that's gonna do
it for us this time. And then

983
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:51.079
Dave the following Tuesday. Mary McDonald, she's putting us to work. Yep.

984
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:57.359
She has requested a specific Lawrence Kasden
movie. You want to tell us

985
01:08:57.399 --> 01:09:00.840
what that is? Yeah, we
are going to be doing Graham Canyon.

986
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:04.319
Yeah, looking forward to talking.
I actually I have not seen that one,

987
01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:09.600
so I haven't edited. I'm excited
to see it. You know.

988
01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:12.920
She does happen to be in that
one, so it will be fun to

989
01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:16.279
see to see her performance as well. Yep. Not often we get homework

990
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:20.000
from somebody who's in the movies,
so clearly, yeah, we're looking forward

991
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.920
to this one. Yeah, I'll
tell you what I'm looking forward to.

992
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:30.319
Guys. You had a successful limited
series Strange New Wednesdays, where you recapped

993
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:34.439
season two of Strange New Worlds,
and then you kind of kept it going.

994
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:41.079
You did season four of Lower Decks, which was fantastic, and we

995
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:45.520
kind of made a decision, right, no more limited series about Star Trek

996
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:49.279
shows now before Okay, Star Trek
fans, before you get upset, hear

997
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:56.199
us out, we're actually doing a
regular occurring series Phasers set the stun.

998
01:09:57.119 --> 01:09:59.920
When is it, When does it
start? And what can we expect?

999
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:03.640
Yes, Wednesday, December sixth.
Like you said, it's going beyond just

1000
01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:06.800
one series at a time. There's
a there's a world to try to explore.

1001
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:10.800
We're going to cover movies, We're
going to cover series. We're going

1002
01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:15.359
to give you curated lists for people
who are just getting into it. Anything

1003
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:17.840
related to Star Trek. We're going
to dive into it and give you a

1004
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:23.119
closer look. Well, gentlemen,
thank you for this roundtable conversation on the

1005
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:27.720
con experience. I cannot wait to
hit the road with you guys and head

1006
01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:32.800
to Columbus for Galaxy Con. Listeners. We hope you'll join us, and

1007
01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:36.079
I'll tell you what. If you
see us out there, ask for your

1008
01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:40.840
free swag. These guys are running
around, they're they're carrying they're carrying the

1009
01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:45.520
color changing stadium cups. They got
stickers sometimes, we got T shirts.

1010
01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:51.359
You see us, demand your free
merch Holt Scott Hoffman hostage if you have

1011
01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:57.439
to, Yeah, I'll do it
for us. We'll talk to you guys

1012
01:10:57.520 --> 01:10:59.439
later. For you, Thank you,