Con Men 2: Electric Boogaloo

0:00 You know what, I don't know if we're going to have a cold open. I didn't do a cold open on the first one, did I? No? I don't think so you can't. You can't cold open. That's gold, Jerry, Oh boy, Okay, no cold open. Hello everybody, and welcome back to a Film by a Podcast. I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm David Burns, I'm Skoy Hoffmann, and I'm Wayne Whitey. We have got a full house today because we have got a special episode for you today.

0:55 We have been busy hitting up some incredible convey and we thought it was time to give a little recap on where we've been, who we've seen, and who we've talked to. So we're going to dive in to our experiences at the Cincinnati Comic Con, the Lexington Scarefest, and the Motor City Comic Con. Before we get into that, Wayne, For those may be unfamiliar with the term con, what is a con? Oh? What is the con? It is a convention an event where fans of a particular genre be it comic books, are horror, films, sci fi, et cetera, can go and celebrate their fandom, meet creators and stars, and mostly surround themselves with the things they like, their hobbies, and others that are into the same thing that they are. Scott, how did this? How did all this start? For those of us that don't know well, So, like Wayne said, nowadays, there's a con that fits with anything that people are passionate about, right so, wrestling, movies, comics, sci fi.

2:00 There's enough people that are into it. There's a place to celebrate that love together. The first one that I found was the World Science Fiction Convention that took place in New York City in nineteen thirty nine, coinciding with the World's Fair. Fast forward to nineteen sixty four, when the Big Apple was also the home to the first large scale comic book convention. Then about six years later, in nineteen seventy, San Diego Comic Con took hold of the West Coast. The first one had a modest showing of about one hundred attendees, which pales in comparison to more than one hundred thousand people that we see there today. The number of cons across the nation, across the world have exploded since then, with specialized events throughout the year and most of them available wherever you live. So instead of having to make the pilgrimage to the coasts, there's a good chance you can find an amazing con near you. I absolutely agree with that these things are popping up everywhere. Dave, You've been to plenty of these things. Yeah, Any any fun facts, anything you can tell us about what goes on at conventions. Well, the one thing that I really wanted to dig into. One thing I didn't think about was what the convention to bring in money wise. So we've all been to a bunch of these conventions. We know how crowded they can get, right, And I do not want to deter anybody from going to see one of these because of the crowds, because those lines are worth it to meet the people that you would not normally get to run into on a normal day basis.

3:17 But research was done like about eight years ago. Did you guys know that this business of the comic book convention brings in over three billion dollars a year? Oh wow, I believe now that was That was like five to six years ago. So considering how busy these conventions have gotten now, the attendance, says we all has seems like it's gone up. So it's clearly more than three billion dollars. But I was looking at next year, at the conventions that are going on, and literally there's a convention every freaking weekend. And some of them are very small, obviously, like the big ones you know, usually like every one two or three months, every you know, four months, something like that. But literally, you go to a convention every weekend you wanted to. But it is quite an experience, especially if you go with friends. You know, for me, sometimes just the drive to one of these is an experience in itself, just getting to hang out with my friends and that's you guys. You know the convent you know, that to me is very very special. Just the one we recently did where we had to drive what four hours? Guys, I love that, you know, the drive may think sometimes, especially when we're coming back and we're all tired, but you know what, it is so much fun and totally worth it. So yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't trade the I wouldn't trade the trips there for for anything. That's that's some of the faces. That's some of the better moments for me too. It is. Yeah, with all this money that you're talking about, Dave, one thing we got to point out is that a lot of this money is going to a good cause.

4:46 You know, there's some really impressive organizations that are raising money for for various charities. Scott, why can you what can you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah? So, I mean, so, let's start with the Star Wars fans. Let's talk about the five hundred and first Legion, which is the world's definitive imperial costuming group. Since ninety seven, they've bought brought iconic characters to life for the benefit of local charities at cons another fan based charity events. Basically, name any villain from that universe and you'll see it represented in mind blowing the screen accurate screen accurate detail. They bring real working droids one of the kind backgrounds for photo ops, all for a good cause. It's one hundred percent volunteer, more than seven thousand active members worldwide, and its popularity or not only official recognition by George Lucas himself, but the five zero Vers has become an official part of Star Wars canon as early as two thousand and four, most notably part of Revenge of the Sith, Battlefront two and the Clone Wars cartoon. Under the command of Captain Rex.

5:50 So this is an organization that you'll see at a lot of these local shows, different faction from the local con Wherever you are, they'll find a local charity and be giving back to it, whether it's a children's hospital or another local charity, indeed usually benefiting kids, which is great to see. And they're not the only ones. So Columbus Ghostbusters near Us is another great example of a nonprofit that raises money for local charities. It's officially recognized by an officially recognized franchise by Sony and Ghost Corp. You can regularly see them bring in more than like Ecto one proton packs. They do like a psychic test where you get a Twinkie as a price, expert costuming, all this stuff that brings you back to the firehouse and they're collecting money for charities.

6:46 So you get a photo op and all these experiences and the money that you give them gives back to your city. There's a lot of organizations that do similar things. There's Galaxy United, Heroes Strong, Rubber City Cosplay, all bringing these real life experiences that immerse you in your worlds while giving back to people in need. So it's a cool thing they do very cool. I tell you, I think it'd be great, uh, because I know we're probably gonna do another one of these common episodes. I don't know about you guys, but i'd love to get someone from the five oh first or or like the finest that that g I Joe Club there that's out there, I'd love to get. I'd love to get someone from one of those organizations.

7:27 Uh. We we had to invite them on and uh and talk with them a little bit. I think that'd be I think that'd be a fun time. I agree, totally agree. Well, speaking about a fun time, let's uh, let's head back to September. We had the Cincinnati Comic Expo. Now, there's some big names at this one. I know Stephen Amil was there, Vincent Dinafrio was there, Julie Binns, Brett Spiner, That's just to name a few. A lot of really uh big voice name actors. But maybe the big draw was the Paul's a plenty, right. We got Paul Bettany, Paul Williams, and Paul Freeman, who I know is a big draw for probably the big draw for us. Yeah, let's talk about who we met Wayne, what can you tell us about Paul Williams.

8:16 He was fantastic and I've always wanted to meet him. He is part of our childhood really. I mean, if you live during the seventies and the eighties, you couldn't turn on the radio or turn on the television without hearing or seeing something that he was involved in. I mean, he wrote some of the greatest songs ever, including the score to The Muppet Movie. He wrote the Academy Award nominated song Rainbow Connection, he wrote the theme to The Love Boats. I mean, you know everything you know that's out there during that time, he pretty much was involved, and he was a fantastic person, incredibly nice. I met him specifically because he's also an actor and he did a guest appearance on Star Trek Voyager. But he didn't really want to talk about himself. He wanted to talk about something else I brought up.

9:05 But I had mentioned that I had just found out that he was the singing voice on the soundtrack for the Secret of Nim, which was done by written by Jerry Goldsmith, one of my favorite composers, and Paul was He has such great stories about Jerry Goldsmith. It was he he has it was like working with your idol, his hero. He he he respected Goldsmith so much. It was a great conversation. I mean, I love talking soundtracks to anyone, but I am so thrilled to finally have met this, this legend of music. It's funny. I can't think of Paul Williams without thinking of Phantom of the Paradise Palm film. Yeah, he is wild in that thing.

9:52 I know. You guys, You guys had a nice interaction with Julian Glover. Dave, tell me about that. Oh yeah, there was so so amazing, so very surreal. Okay, because if you told myself back in nineteen eighty nine, when I was watching Indian and Jones in the Last Crusade that I would be meeting Julian Glover in person, I'd be like, ah, yeah, whatever. But I got to tell you meeting him in person like we did was a whole new level because not only was it surreal, like I said, but Wayne and I, you know, got into his line to take a photograph with him. So we went in and I was wearing shorts and noverybody knows me how I knows. I have a prosthetic leg, and obviously anyone's going to notice it or recognize it right away. But Julian, you know, looked down. You know, he looked at me, and you know he said, hey, he said, well, you know what happened, and he was very sincere about it. We had It was like two friends talking. It was very natural conversation. It wasn't like forced or anything like that. He was just very very genuine about it.

10:48 And when I told him the story and how I lost it, you could just see how deeply caring he was and hit by his reaction on what he did. And one of the things that will come up in a lot of our conversations when we meet these people is how after meeting them, how we appreciate them more, you know, how we want to support them more after we met them for the first time. Because I don't think I've had a bad experience in a long time with meeting anybody. So that meeting with Julian Lover was just incredible, and you know, it gives me much more respect of him. But now when I see him in Indian joins the last Crusade has done of him, I'm like, hey, I've met that guy and he was pretty cool. He was my number one draw. He was the one person I really wanted to meet there because he not only has guest starred on Doctor Who once, but twice with two completely different doctors in two different decades. Two fantastic stories, one back in the sixties and then another one that was written by the legendary Douglas Adams, one of the best stories from the entire series. And he had even though it happened such such a long time ago, almost sixty years ago, with the first one, he remembered everything like it was yesterday and had great stories about working with William Hartnell and Tom Baker, and he was really excited to meet someone that didn't talk about Indiana Jones was talking about Doctor Who. I was it was. He was a fantastic person to meet. There's a very a very fun photo that you guys took with with Glover. Uh. Way, you want to tell us a little bit about what you decided to do for this, uh this

12:18 particular photo op. Yeah. I don't know why this even came to my head when I but I just wanted to do something different. I wanted to have a photo taken with me and David and I was looking over on my shelf and I have quite a few action figures, and I saw the action figure from of Julian Glover from that story City of Death the Doctor, his story from the seventies, and I thought, what did we need to have that in my hand in holding that? And then I thought, well, wait a minute, there's another figure out there. There's a Donovan figure as well. So I went out and got that, gave that to David since he's a big Indiana Jones fan, and we are both holding up Julian Glover figures along with a real person photo. Yeah we got we got two men and three Julian Glovers in that photo. That's that's pretty fantastics, right.

13:03 Speaking of Indiana Jones, I gotta say, for me, the big draw had to be Paul Freeman Scott I'm talking about uh you know, he played a character. I think they call him Belloc Belloc Paul Freeman. Uh guys, was he not just a fantastic conversation and he really was a bit of a bit of a smart ass, like towards Julian Glover, like you know, yeah, we you know, we talked to him. We're talking to him like hey, we you are by and far the the the greatest adversary Indiana Jones ever faced. And he immediately he's pointing down to Glover. He's like, hey, can you do me a favorite? Can you go tell him that exactly? It was awesome. I'm like, oh, yeah, he was. He was fantastic. Now here's something, you know, Dave, what you we talked about having some fun fun things with the photos.

14:03 Uh, Freeman was was kind enough to take a quick photo with us at the table. I'm carrying the the fertility idol you know, from from Raiders, and I had this idea that I would, you know, Dave, you remember this. I wanted to kind of pose like I was handing it over to him. Yep, Scott, I know you weren't with us, You're you were talking the fib at first at this point, I think, but I pulled this this idol out of my of my bag. As soon as he saw it, he snatched it from me. I didn't even get a chance to so, you know, you you take a look at that photo. He is proudly holding it center, you know, right right there.

14:43 I'm like, okay, well get away, okay, he'll he'll he'll take the photo the way he wants to take the photo, but no, he was fantastic. Uh he. We kind of talked a little bit about his favorite directors. I know Dave was. Wasn't it a Elia Kazan that he mentioned his is his top choice? And then he kind of he kind of sheepishly told us about his upcoming work in a Hallmark movie that he said, you know, you know, you know, you do what you do. So for those of you tuning into the Hallmark channel, you will see Paul Freeman soon holding the idol. No, this is not this is not a Richard Dreyfus situation. I got the idol back. Yeah, no, Scott, I know you were. You were all over the place checking out a lot of the vendors, a lot of the booths. Are we heading back to this one next year? I'd definitely go back to Cincinnati comeback expo.

15:41 Another other other draws that I kind of wish I could have met. There was Jim Lee, which everybody knows that name, an amazing, amazing talent that I wish we could have met. But it was a day off for us. Disney legend Floyd Norman was there. Look up Floyd Norman and you'll see him all over Disney Classics. The one that I made a beeline for was Adam Savage from MythBusters. I wanted to get an autograph for my oldest son, who has one of the books that the Adam swears by. It's like his backstage bible basically, and I know that he was talking up a lot of cos players and people who followed in those footsteps and was giving advice and encouragement, and it was great to see. So there's a big range of talent you'll see at the Cincinnati Comic Expo. I'd be glad to go back. How about you, Wayne, Oh? Yeah, it was fantastic convention. I had a great time. The dealers were fantastic, especially if you were shopping for comics. I also I got to meet a few other people to Neil McDonough from Star Trek, first contact of Bander Brothers.

16:48 I got to meet him, fantastic, incredibly nice guy. And I got to meet John Delancey. This is actually the second time I've met him, and it was a rather unusual conversation I had with him. Usually when I meet some of these people, I try to find something that's a little more obscure. You know, they sit there for hours listening to the same thing over and over again, you know, a Star Wars, Star Trek or whatever. So I usually try to bring up something else, some other work that they did. And I think I got a little bit too obscure and mentioned his appearance in Torch Would and he did not remember anything else about it, and he deflected the questions back to me. So he pretty much spent the entire time talking to him. He was asking questions about me and my career, which was rather odd. I've never done that before. But Okay, if he wants to know all about me, that's fine. But yeah, but I guess I want to go back next year. It'll be fantastic to go back. I can't wait to see who they have on the list, you know. One one final thought about Paul Freeman. You guys were busy talking with the joint Glover. I went back to Freeman and was able to chat with him a little bit more. And to Wayne's point, you never want to just ask the same question that these these actors and actresses and creators have heard thousands of times. And I kind of feel like when you do, when you kind of go above and beyond and you you you talk about something off topic, usually they like to throw throw something out to you, right, yep, I can't tell you. Freeman was kind enough to offer up the fact that he did not swallow a fly and raise the lost

18:18 Star that you know he hears it all the time. I wasn't about to ask him, but uh, that did not happen. Despite what you see or what you think you see on the screen, It did not happen. But uh, Dave, was there anyone else, uh you happen to to run into at since a comic expo? No, not no one that I ran into. But I just want to talk about some of the dealers there. You know, you will find a lot of stuff that you won't normally find in any store like a Target or Walmart or anything like that. You know, at these conventions you find the unique items, you know. I know Wayne mentioned the comic books, but for me, I mean it's it's you know, it's looking for other things too, like hot toys or you know, any kind of action figure collectibles. You stuff that you won't normally find in a regular store. So definitely, when you go to one of these, check out all the dealers there because you never know what you want to find. You will find those unique items and you know, everyone I've been to I always find something different, something unique. And you know, I wish my wallet and my bank account would allow me to buy more, but unfortunately it won't let me check out. Since that comic expo, we'll have their information in the show notes. We'll see you there. Moving on to the Lexington Scarefest. We did this one back in October. This one was huge. We had We had reunions for Jaws, Friday, The Thirteenth Creep Show, Halloween, and Dad the Dead just to name a few.

19:48 That's that's like your and that's like your legacy horror films. In addition, I know the entire cast like Terrifier was there. They were. I mean that that those movies are getting a huge draw at these conventions now and if you've seen them, you know why. And don't forget we had a couple of actors there from five Nights of Freddy movie Honey been out yet, and you know, those actors weren't getting a lot of people coming up to them, And now I regret it because, like god, dang it, now when they do show up conventions. They're gonna be packed. Yeah you you you sell those too, And we're like, oh, wow, the movie's I'm in out yet, so yeah, you know, we walked right by them. A couple of weeks later, we're seeing the movie. It's incredible and we're kind of like, yeah, that would have been good to would say hello. But in addition, uh, again, some huge names.

20:37 David Arquette, Adrian Barbo, Tom Savini, Bill Moseley, Ken Farree, Clint Howard, David Morrissey. I could go on, but uh, let's talk about who who we Who we met? Wayne. You've got the Doctor Who poster in tow. You've got the Star Trek poster in tow. These legendary posters that are that hold hundreds of autographs that you've got. What can you tell us about Clint Howard? He was fantastic. I mean, here's a guy that was in so many Star Trek series and made so many appearances all the way back to nineteen sixty six in the original. He was so nice. He looked at my poster and picked out the names in effect to the first one he recognized, Oh there's Paul Williams. I can't believe he got his autograph, and I actually talked to him a little bit about our other shows that we do in our podcasts of Strange New Worlds and his recent appearance. I loved meeting him. He's a Star Trek legend. Yeah, he was one of two Star Trek guests that I wanted to meet there.

21:37 The other one was Melinda Clark. She had guest appeared on the pilot episode of Star Trek Enterprise, and I wish I would have realized this was her too, But I'm a huge Seinfeld fan. Loved that show, and she was in an episode called The Muffin Tops where she likes hairless hairless things, and of course Jerry, you know, shaves himself and that's one of the funniest episodes, and I wish I would love to talk to her about that. But I did get to talk to her about Star Trek, and I think I was probably the only person that weekend that came up to her and talked to her about that. First thing out of her mouth goes, oh, that's right, I kissed Scott Bacula. I enjoyed that, so yeah, she It was a good memory there. And then of course David Morrissey, my number one being Draw. I mean, he's huge on The Walking Dead, but he did a phenomenal guest appearance back in two thousand and eight on Doctor Who, playing the next Doctor Man who is shocked by a Cyberman memory disc and believes he's the doctor himself. An incredible appearance. And here's a guy who he wants to do more conventions. He talked to me, he asked me questions. He says, I would love to do Doctor Who conventions, and I gave him the information. I told him which ones to contact. I hopefully we see him more. If you see him at a convention, go visit him, go go get his autograph. He is incredible to talk to. And he was a talker like Jeff and I were like

23:07 standing back watching you know, your interactions with him, and he was just going on and on and on, like having this that friendly conversation with you forever. He loved being on the show and he loved talking about it. It was it was great to meet someone that that you know, was not only in the show, but it's passionate about the series as well. Dave, how great was it to meet a legend like Tom Savini? You know, I got to tell you I never expected to meet him either, you know, this guy being his presence, you know how inspiring it was because you know, just to think of all the work he's done over the years we have seen on the big screen, you know, just sitting there and just signing autographs and meeting his fans. God, it was fantastic. Just sitting next to him. To get my selfie with him was just you know, give me goosebumps. Loved it. What I love is how approachable he was. And so I was there. I was there a day earlier.

23:59 No one is near Savini. He's he's I don't know if he had just come back from a lunch break or what, but you know, it just walked up started, you know, casually, just hey, I love your work, thank you for everything you've given us. And he goes, you can sit down, man, So you know, sit down. You know we talk. We talk like two more minutes. And that's the great thing. You know, if you've ever if you haven't been to one of these cons, I'll tell you this. Sometimes if you're you're hoping to see someone, you might be in a line with like a thousand other people. You know, you know, if you're if you're trying to talk to William Shatner, you are not. Shatner's not going to ask you to sit down and chat for a while, right Wayne, you know, because they they got to make time for everybody. But if you happen to catch someone when they're they're just about to leave or they're just now getting back, sometimes they just love love chatting, so you know, and Savini was kind of like that.

24:51 It was it was great to talk to him, you know. And again, you know, we didn't really talk anything specifically, just you know, about his career, but I did, like, I was like, well, how about a quick picture? And he, you know, kind of taking a page out of Paul Freeman's book. He snatches my cell phone away from me and says, I'll do it. I'll take it. So clearly he has he has an angle that he prefers. So but you know what, the man. The man photographs as well as David Burns. So I'll say that about it. Dave. Let's talk a little bit about Friday the thirteenth. Oh man, please, anytime I have an opportunity to talk about Friday the thirteenth, I am all over that As I've mentioned a mini podcasts before, the original Friday the Thirteenth was my very first rated AR film, so it always holds a special place in my heart. So when I knew I was going to this convention and I was going to get to meet the final girl, you know, Alice Adrian King, dude, I was like on top of the world. And she was just so kind when we got to meet her, you know, it was very approachable. You know.

25:59 She came out from around the counter, you know, to take the picture with me, and you know, of course I asked, he it's okay if I put my arm around her. She goes, of course, go ahead, you know. And then when we finished getting the picture, man, she just turned around and just gave me this long, embracing hug. You know. But just she's just a wonderful person. I'm so glad to see and meet her. It's just, man, it made me feel good, not to mention, kind of was blushing a little bit when I met her, and she even noticed it too. She said, I love it being at my age and I can make men still blush, and I love that well. She and she's beautiful, right, yeah, I mean, wow, to see her to talk with her just enchanting. You know, Dave, I'll tell you right now, you're if we have a Lando Calrisine in this group, it's you. You are definitely setting yourself up as the smooth talker because I know you had a certain interaction with someone else at MotorCity. Later. Oh yeah, yeah, you're you turned into quite of a player, my friend. You know, they'll show up on the next show with the Cape. He's a Scott Scotty. Should have seen him at at at Lexington and at motor City. He is I'll tell you he is.

27:04 Uh, he's They're sweet on him, That's what I'll say. Yeah. Uh. Amy Steele who plays Ginny and Friday Thirteenth too, another another just beautiful woman, yep, full of energy. You could tell she was loving, loving U being there. How do you know in this situation like it's like, you know what, let's let's get an autograph because these these are these are iconic characters that these women played. Yep, and I love you know, they're having fun with it. You know. Sometimes you'll you'll be in a you'll you'll see someone they'll just sign their name and all right, move along. And sometimes they write some fun stuff for you. Amy Steele wrote, Uh, wrote a fun little catchphrase from Friday thirteenth two for me, you know, personalized it. But uh again, I could have talked to those two women the rest of the day if time would have permitted.

27:52 But but time did not permit, Dave, because we had to talk to uh, we had to talk to Jason Vorhees himself. Right, we did, Oh we did. And of course you're talking about the man, the myth, Caine Hotter. Getting to see him in person was something special to getting to see the Jason Vorhees. In my opinion, he still has that like that book their shoulders that you that you see on screen when he plays Jason. Very cool guy, you know, getting to sit back with him to take pictures and stuff like that. And Chad Cochran who plays Jason for me and a lot of my photo films. I got to mention to him about Chad playing Jason, and Caine of course asked, well how does he play? I like? I like that? He he looked up immediately and said, how's how's he do? Yeah? How's how is he like?

28:40 Yeah? Like he wanted to know. He cared, you know, you know, you are the king, sir. But you know, yeah, he's he's got to look out for the he's got to look out for the character, right, of course he does. And that's pretty much what I told him. I said, I said, Chad is a huge fan of you, so of course he's gonna betray you. But of course he's never going to equal what you did on screen, of course, not if there's one thing I'll tell you about Kane Hodder. The man is frighteningly strong. So I had to take Dave, you know, I had to do like a professional photo with him, of course, walk up to him, you know, and I was like, you know what, how let's let's uh, you know, I wanted to kind of like a clowning shot. So I was like, how about let's throw your your your hands around my neck, like your strangle on me. He's like, hey, I'm actually I'm not allowed to do that anymore. So I don't know what happened in the past, you know, but he did. He did goes, you know, he just goes, how about if I punch you instead? Now I don't know if he's kidding at this point, Scott, but the photographers like, all right, let's go. Cain puts a grip on me and then, you know, I'm sure what he felt was gentle gently presses his fist into the side of my face and it hurt. But you know, I'm not about to complain because like I'm like, you know, I got I got a photo looking like King Hotter punched me out, And at the same time, I'm like, damn that guy strong like that, you know, like my jaw kind of was aching for a little bit, and I was like, you know what that's I'm glad I could say Kane Hotter hurt me at some point, at some point, and I live to tell the

30:11 tale, right, yep, yep. This one actually was a fantastic experience. It was fun talking, you know, talking with David Arquette. Couldn't really talk a whole lot. He actually had quite a huge drawl. You know, there's several hundred people went don't want to talk to him, So that was kind of like a quick one. But I'll tell you for me, if there was, if there was a big draw for me on this one, getting the chance to speak with the lovely Adrian Barbo. I know she wasn't there Sunday when you guys were with me. I actually was there Saturday. Had had a great opportunity to talk with her. One thing we try to do when we hit these conventions, we try to get miked up and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes you're not allowed to record.

31:00 Adrian Actually, uh, you know, this was the time we got. I got to ask a fun question about some of her work. So here's a quick clip talking with Adrian Barbo about her iconic role Stevie Wayne in The Fog. Hello again, Adrian, who tho? Hello? Any chance I could ask you a question for our show? What's the show? A film by podcast ends? And what we're talking about? Just what kind of So the quest I'll ask the question. You could say, no comment if you want. My question was, if royalties music royalties weren't an issue on The Fog, what kind of music would Stevie Wayne be playing rather than jazz?

31:48 So maybe it's Adrian's favorite music. I'm not sure i'd have an answer for you. I've never thought about it about the music, About the music, I always wondered, We've talked about it before, like what would Stevie what would Stee be playing? I'd have to separate Stevie from myself. And that's so what would Adrian be playing? Oh? Probably you know, seventies, seventies, seventies pop Okay, Loggins and Messina. Oh okay, nice part, all great choices. I know what what she might be playing.

32:34 And the name just went out of my head, Eva Cassidy. Okay for that kind of you know, for for the Fire, for the for the lighthouse. I love it. Okay, okay, enjoy your time, thanks, Adrian. Yeah, so there you have it. If you're wondering what STEVIEE would have been playing in the lighthouse, uh, direct from Adrian Barbo. There's your answer. And uh, I gotta tell you again. Another incredible actress, you know, an incredible body of work and just stunning in person. She was absolutely delightful and just amazing to talk to. I hope, I absolutely hope I get to get to see her again sometime. I hope I get to meet her once, because unfortunately I couldn't be there the day that she was there, and you were lucky that you've got to meet her, so I regret it, but hey, hopefully I'll get to see her me too. She said, such an incredible career over the year.

33:37 Yes, I'd love to talk to her about a lot of her appearances in Swamp Thing. Yes, that's true. All right, So listen, we are no strangers to the lexicon that took place at this convention center. This one was the Scare Fest. Uh And I gotta say, guys, they knocked it out of the park with this one. Mm hmm, they absolutely did. I like, I like the conventions that are just focused on horror at times, so it gives you a little bit of a different vibe, different feeling, and you get to meet different people. But yeah, I'm definitely going back to this one. Yeah. You know, I'm not the biggest horror fan, not like you guys are. I mean, I love the films, but I'm just not into it like that. But I love this convention. It was so much fun and there's more. Even if you don't like horror, this is a place to go. It's great meeting these people because they've so many of them had so many different careers. You can you know, like I'm there for Star Trek and you could there was a horror convention. The dealers were fantastic. There were a lot of interesting stuff and I even found some comic books there, and it was a great time.

34:35 I definitely want to go back to this one. And you know, another thing, really cool thing about this one too. I don't know if you guys noticed it or not, but there was a lot of space. Some of these conventions are like a little crowded, a little tight, like in the dealers, the hallways, this kind of thing. There was plenty of room at Lexing and Scarefft where you could just like you were not shoulder to shoulder with somebody. It was really nice. I love that. Yeah, you're right. And there were a lot of guests there. I mean we didn't have and a fraction. We probably didn't even get to about ten of them, ten percent of them, so many of them, but they were all spaced out perfectly. Was easy to get to, you know, the lines were very manageable, they were Scott, I know you weren't with us at the scare Fest, obviously you're with us at the Lexicon. Uh, this would have this would have been a great one for you, Scott, and you were there in spirit. I did I did happen to name drop you and Dave on On Saturday, I had a had a quick meeting with Ken four E nice. I had no. I had to. I had to take the opportunity to tell him about the the Dawn of the Dead episode that you and Dave did on a film at forty five, which he kind of, you know, he appreciated. You know, we got these these incredible actresses, making Dave Burns blush. I might I may have inadvertently made Ken far E blush because I also Dave. I brought up the the From Beyond episode. Oh yeah, we did on eighty six, you know, just like hey, you know, I told him. I was like, man, you were in incredible shape. You're running around in those bikini

36:07 briefs. And he, you know, let out that that that that deep laugh that he has and he's like, yeah, I don't know if I can do that now. I was like, I was like, I don't know, man, like you you look like you're a pretty incredible shape. Still, So yeah, great time. Absolutely, Uh enjoyed myself there. And and Wayne, you're absolutely right due. I think we this one needs two days because I think we only saw a fraction of what this one would offer. Well, guys, let's move on to the one we just got back from Uh, we were up in Detroit at the Motor City Comic Con. We are no stranger to this one. This was our what our third time? Well, I say my third time, Dave, you're maybe your third time. I think it's my fifth, isn't we it's my fifth this one. Yeah. It's like Scott, I know you've been to Uh, you've been to one with us? Yeah, and then Wayne obviously is there has there been a MotorCity Comic Con that you've missed? Oh, quite a few of them. Yeah, you know, I've been only to ten of them, you know, in the last like twenty years, and they happened twice a year. Yeah, this one again just a huge turnout. MotorCity Comic Con always puts on a good event. Yeah. The big draw here probably David Harber, who I didn't think we were going to get near him, you know, with with the popularity of Stranger Things and hell Boy and everything else he's got going on. But Peter Weller is there with the OCP

37:38 Ford Taurus police car, which was really cool to see that up close. Yes, and the cast of Cobra Kai, you know, my one of my all time favorites, one of my heroes William Zabka is there. You know, Machio's there. We know how you feel about Machio, Jeff cross Roads, cross Roads Listen, all right, you know what I'm gonna jump in right there, because uh, I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna call it like I see it, Dave. And you know I panted, I pointed this, I pointed this out to you. So let me tell you about let me tell you about the Cobra Kai side. Okay, first off, Scott Zobka, he I mean it was like everyone was there for him and you could tell, you know, you know Martin Cove. You got Martin Cove there, who was famous for playing since a Crease. A lot of people happy to see him, you know, we Dave. We got to meet him back at a Horror Hound last year. So he is awesome.

38:45 He is. He has a lot of fun because he kind of likes to stay in character too, which is really cool. And yes, Ralph Machio's there, Scott. But here's what I'm gonna I'm gonna point out. William Zapka and Martin Cove. They're signing autographs and they're taking pictures right like most of the you know, pretty much all the celebrities do. And Scott, here's the thing. These guys are walking around the table to come out, put their arm around the the you know, the fan, and take a nice photo. Machio is not doing that, Scott. He is charging eighty bucks for a selfie and he's leaning over the table and having the person leaning you know. I mean, I'm like, I looked at David was like, come on, you know really, I just couldn't believe it.

39:35 Man, Like, am I wrong? Am I Am I being a dick for calling Machio out? I mean I don't. I don't know if there was something going on that maybe he didn't want to be around people too much. But I agree with you because when we looked over, there was a sweet little girl trying to get her picture with him, and he's literally just like leaning over the table and she's doing her best to lean back over the table to get her picture with him. And I was like, oh, I'm ridiculous. Yeah, Scott, this girl was maybeen seven. I mean, she's like three feet tall. She's she's on her tiptoes trying. You know, there's probably like two or two and a half feet between them on this you know, I'm like, come on, just keep in mind, his last name is Machio, not LaRusso he's not the character. It's okay, well, no, maybe something's going on. But I hear what you're saying, Like, there's there's some actors that you see that go out of their way to be very personable and they're with their their fans and also other kind of stuff. So hats off to Zobda for that. Yeah, and you know, Scott, you're absolutely right. His name is not LaRusso it's Machio. And to to that point, I would say, hey, look, you play a villain in Karate Kid, you don't have to be a villain in real life. Right, So I'm like, come on, you know, and hang on, I'm getting a call from Dayton Johnson. Hold up, stop no, But and you know, in all fairness, though, you never know. I mean, maybe maybe he's not feeling good, maybe he's worried, you know about you know, I mean it works were coming up in the winter season, you know, so I get it.

41:04 You know, sometimes you will keep your distance and that's that's totally cool. But but if that's the case, you know, let's let your audience know that's that's all. I'm gonna exactly right. I agree, You're right. Yep, yep, Wayne. Let's move on. Let's move on to a nicer topic. Wayne, you had the opportunity to meet a legend in the world of Star Trek. Oh yes, one of the originals, Walter Koenig check Off himself. I mean, it is such an honor to meet any of the cast surviving cast members of the original Star Trek. It's very rare now and this is actually David reminded me, this is actually the second time.

41:50 And David, you are right. We didn't meet him twenty some years ago Dragon Con, where I got him autographed from Babylon five, another show that I absolutely love. This time I was here for Star Trek and he did not disappoint. A lovely man, incredibly friendly and thank you, Thank you both. Jeff paid to get a selfie taken with me and him, which I absolutely love. He's It's just incredible. I can't believe I actually another classic Star Trek actor that i've you know, I've got my photograph with him. Now I've got his autograph on my poster. You know, this is this is like royalty for my poster. Yeah, you guys, you guys are the the Star Trek experts as far as I'm concerned. But I'm the Star Trek enthusiast. And as you guys know, I loved the original series, and so even for me, it was a starstruck moment because I'm looking at a living legend right in front of me and just could not believe.

42:55 I'm like, wow, check Off is right in front of me. He's you know, we're tall, talking with Chekhov. This is this is incredible. So that was a bit of a star truck moment for me. I have to admit that, you know, wonderful, wonderful man. He was wonderful man. Wayne. Uh, I know, I know one one person you were looking to to have signed one of the one of the posters was a was a little little affectionate right, Yes, he was the the anti Ralph Maccio. That was Doug Jones. He plays Sorrow on Star Trek Discovery. And I've met a lot a lot of actors over the whole many many conventions that I've been to, and so many of them are incredibly friendly.

43:39 We've talked about a lot of them just today about how friendly are with this guy. He he has taken it to a completely different level. He talked. It was it took a while to get through his line. I will say that, but because he put his center of attention to each person he spoke to them, He talked to them in length about what very subjects, and he wouldn't let anyone leave without getting a very big, affectionate hug. Now, I'm not much of a hugger. I'm one of those you know, don't bust my bubble people. Everybody knows that. So you know, my eyes nearly popping out of my head when he's coming around the table and giving me this big bear hug. And he is a very very tall guy. He's like like, I don't know how tall he is, but he's like six seven six eight. And you're not a sure guy, Wayne, No I'm not. I'm six' one. But yeah, here he is wrapping his arms around me, and and you know, I'm like, I can't believe this. This is this is fantastic. If you get a chance to meet him, meet him and get a hug from him, it's it's definitely a different experience. Yeah he uh, Wayne. One thing I always love about the doing these cons with you is seeing you get excited about actors and actresses that I'm excited about. But then you're excited about it because because of Star Treker, because of Doctor Who and I and I never have a clue that they're they're in their shows, you know, because you're like, oh, Doug Jones, I'm like, oh, yeah, the guy from the Shape of Water. He was an hell boy. You know Pan's

45:12 Labyrinth, Like, this guy is amazing. He's like he's like you know, he's like he's like bowling buddies with Andy Serkis, you know, as far as someone turned so and then you're like, no, he was in episode six of season twelve. I'm like, okay, well now I know that too. And to all of you old timers out there like me and David, I learned something about him that back in the eighties there were these commercials from McDonald's, the mac Tonight commercials, and he played the Mac Tonight. That was his first job. I didn't know that, and I actually that kind of thrilled me. I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah. As a little kid, I was like, wait, the Crescent Moon guy, and you're like, yesh, yep, that's Tim, I never knew that. I'll tell you one getting the opportunity to talk with uh, with someone there that I was excited about. I gotta talk. I gotta tell you guys, a quick quick bit about Donald Gibb. Now, anyone that watched movies in the nineteen eighties you know this guy. He was. He was Ogre and the Revenge of the Nerds movies. I loved him as Jackson in blood Sport. And he's there and again this is one of those situations, Dave, where you know, we were miked up and he was.

46:24 He was totally cool with answer some questions about his career, and he had this to say about some of his uncredited work. Thank god for you, or I would all right, big dog ready, yeah, thanks, make him look, make me look talking to him. Quick question for you, if I could ask you a question for our show. You get your start in nineteen eighty You got a couple of credited roles, right, you got any which way you can. You got stripes and you got tonal strips. I got credit. Oh you didn't get credit. You were the okay, because I know you were at the were your at the mud Rest Fort Candy was getting his ass beat. Oh was he yeah? And finally he looks at the director because you can't have these girls doing this to me. Man, I'm I'm fat, you know. And John was so out of breath.

47:08 I was getting a little worried, and I told the director, I go, you've got to watch him, and he's breathing hard. You didn't live much longer, you know. Yeah, you're right, but you know those girls will be Yeah. I'm like, no, they can't do that, you know. But yeah, that movie was weird too. H mc murray's not as nice as guy as you think. I was shocked because I thought he was awesome guy. But it was fine. Awesome man, thanks so much, absolutely all right, I appreciate you. Oh that is perfect, that is oh, thank you. The funny thing here is that the exact opposite experience of Kane Hodder. So I'm gonna take a photo with him at you know where we're at his table. He's like, yeah, let's take a quick photo. I didn't ask him, I just I just leaned in. I was like, let's take a nice photo. And then he proceeded to wrap his giant hands around my throat and uh and and squeeze.

48:00 So so yeah, I'm not clowning as much. I'm like I need air. Yeah, this Donald Gibbs is a just a giant of a man and still still every bit as powerful as he was on the mat in blood Sport. Great time talking to him. So you're getting an autograph with a bonus assault charge from all these Yeah, he's gonna have a collection of all these over the years. People cho punching. What is going on? Yeah, I love it. It was It was fun time speaking of great conversations. So, Dave, now as we know, we initially were really excited. Karen Allen was was scheduled to appear at the Motor City Comic Con. Sadly she had to cancel her appearance. Kind of fortuitous for us because there was a last minute addition to take her place. A woman every bit as lovely as Karen Allen, every bit as talented, Dave, Who did we meet?

49:02 That would be the lovely, talented and very intelligent Mary McDonald. If anyone who doesn't know who Mary McDonald is, she has been in a lot of stuff, but for me, the one thing that immediately stood out is dances with wolves. She plays stands with a fist and I was excited to meet her because I absolutely love dances with wolves and you know, but you know, she played the First Lady and Independence Day. She played President Laura Roslin in the Battlestar Galactica, and just recently Madeline Usher in the Netflix series The Fall of the House of Usher. She was very excited to talk about the Fall of the House of Usher. Because of the strike, they were not allowed to talk about anything, so this was like her first time in public getting to meet fans and get to be able to talk about the new series. But anyway, Jeff and I got in line. We went up to Mary McDonald and you know, she's very very friendly, you know, talking to all of her fans and stuff like that and taking her time.

50:00 I'm getting pictures with people. As soon as Jeff and I approached, you know, to get you know, to meet her, and I put my picture down to get an autograph. She turns to us and immediately apologizes and he goes, I'm sorry, guys, I'm very chatty. Thinking in my mind, we don't mind you being chatty. We love that fact, you know, I don't want somebody who's just going to sign something and sends you on your way, you know. I mean, I know we've got lines and people are waiting, but I really appreciate when an actor or a guest, you know, takes their time with you, you know, just as Wayne mentioned with Doug Jones. But you know, I was immediately crushing on Mary McDonald because she is stunning, Jeff oh, And I just was very impressed by her presence, and what I mean by that is she was just so so smart, so intelligent, and just wanted to have very long conversations about what was going on, you know, in the world, what was going on in her career, what was going on other films, and what I learned about her. She would always turn the conversation onto other PEO people that she's worked with and would admire on them, and she did that with Mike Flanagan. You know, when we got to go to her panel, and you know that that's what she mentioned to us right away. She goes, I've been telling everybody, will you please go to my panel? Because she had just been announced just a few days before the convention, so not a lot of people knew she was going to be there, so she was asking everybody please go to my panel, please go to my panel, which we did, of course, but man, she was just so fantastic.

51:25 I love talking to her, getting to know her, and I would love to talk and meet her again, Jeff. She was just something special listening to and her panel, just talking and just glowing about things that were going on in her career, you know, getting to hear and I won't go into details because hopefully we'll get to talk to her, but getting to hear her story of how she got the role of Stands with a Fist with Kevin Costner was fantastic. But getting to hear her origin story of how she became an actor was just really neat to hear. And whene you were there, Jeff, you know, we got to hear all that together, and it was just you're glued to her, everything that's coming off of her lips. You're just you're on as your seat listening to her because she's just so good at talking and speaking, and I could listen to her all damn day.

52:10 And that's the truth. She is very intelligent, very articulate, and very engaging. I was enthralled listening to her talk and we we had a little bit of fun with her too, because, as Dave maybe failed to mention, we're we're you know, we're we're talking with her maybe a couple minutes into the conversation, and she's smiling at us and she goes, oh, so are you guys a couple, which we were like, no, we are, no, no, no, no, you know, no we are not, but we do we do work together, you know. And then she, you know, she kind of she saw the shirts and she's like, hey, she's like, well, what's the show. We get a quick opportunity to tell her what a film buy is all about, and Dave, she quickly had several suggestions her future episodes, and we you know, we did assure her that we will, we'll be talking about them.

53:05 We did assure her that we'll be covering them here very soon. But absolutely just an absolutely wonderful woman, and uh, you're right, Dave. You know, we we've reached out. We hope, hope we'll we'll get to talk with miss McDonald once more, but which could potentially be three hour podcast because she loves to talk like that's a welcome podcast. Yes, yes it is, Yes it is. Scott. We missed you at this one man, are you going to be with us at the next Motor City Comic Con. Yeah, I want to go back. It was my first experience. Was a great experience, especially when you had a chance to talk to Daryl McDaniel's d MC and just your reaction when you were done with that conversation, you were just on top of the world. Uh. They've got a great layout, They've always got a great draw with the talent. I'd love to make the pilgrimage back up there well as we as we start to wrap up, I do want to call out a couple vendors that that we had the had some nice interaction with at several of these cons. As as Wayne was pointing out, there are just I mean there are wall to wall. There's some incredible stuff here. You know, merchandise you know you're not going to see online, you're not going to see in the stores, and sometimes you, uh, you have an opportunity to meet and connect with with creators and and get get some really cool stuff, whether it's a commissioned work or or just like, hey, this is exclusive to this con. Scott. Uh,

54:39 you want to tell us a little bit about the art of John Wright. Yeah, I mean at Cincinnati Comic Expo. My two big draws were Adam Savage and jw Art Studios. The Art of John Wright. Now, John is a regular contributor and friend that's joined us on the Duck and Base seventy seven podcast. It creates stunning original art based on a range of pop culture icons. Most notably the one that I treasure the most are an original commission he did for us featuring an iconic scene from nineteen seventy eight Superman just after Miss test Maker saves Superman from drowning. He did an amazing piece featuring our friend Valerie Perin and Christopher Reeves sharing a moment after impromptu kiss. Now, we also had a chance to see a gallery of his work behind him, which ranges from the Crow to Batman to Wolverine like Spider Man, so many different ones. But the one that I really wanted to get my hands on in person was this fantastic set of prints where he blends the Scooby Gang with a famous movie monsters that we wish we would have seen on the screen.

55:45 And he's continued, yes, and he's continuing to build on that, which I love. It's a great idea, It's beautifully painted, He has a passion and dedication to the characters that we love, and his work is always a feature in our studio. Whenever you had a chance to take a look at the vendors to stop and see some of the work and get to chat with them about their passion for what they're do, for what they do, it's it's always a great experience and I can't wait to get my hands on more of John's work. Yeah, I bought the whole set of Scooby Doo than he did. I bought the whole set because they were just fantastic, And so I don't have room on my walls, but I will find room eventually because I had to own those. Yeah. Yeah. One of my favorite pieces of art I have on the wall right now is I was lucky enough to get a print of that that Superman Miss Test Mocker moment that Scott was just a minute ago. Yeah, just just gorgeous. And I'll point this out and this is this is coming from John Wright himself. You know a lot of times you go by and and sometimes you don't want to make eye contact right with this vendor or this table, because you know you feel like you're gonna get pressured into like, hey, come by, I come buy, come buy. That's not the case. You know, John will be the first one to tell you he's happy. You know, just just stop by, say hello. You know, talk comics, talk movies, talk music. You know, it's a chance to connect with their audiences too. So don't feel like you're pressured to buy something, because I truthfully,

57:22 every booth I've been into, at all these cons I've never once felt felt that kind of vibe. You know, these are these are fans, these are creators, and they're here to talk with you, to talk with other fans and creators. So I would encourage you whether you know, stop talk yeah, yeah, And I mean if if it's if it's a case where you're not ready to buy something, if it's a case where it's not quite in your budget, be honest, they'll understand. You're just really giving them a chance to talk about their work and connect with people, which is why they're there. Obviously, they're there to you know, hopefully sell their product and promote it. But at the very least you can pick up their info, you can pick up a business card, you can look into them later. I highly recommend that because it really it opens up the world for you in this this pop culture environment, and you'll learn new things too.

58:12 Because I won't give anything away, but that idea. John Wright told us that he's working on that that I cannot wait for that market. Yeah, that's going to be fantastic. Yeah. And I mean all these movies that we're talking about, all this work that we're talking about, you know, getting an original piece of art like that from somebody who knows the kind of scenes and kind of you know, characters to capture, it's it's a great opportunity. One other vendor I gotta talk about. I gotta let our listeners know about we We we seen them at the since a comic expo. We could miss them because of the presence. They have maybe one of the best setups at a comic con. If you know, when we're talking about vendors, you know, this company might have one of the best ones. I mean, it's it is, it's it just it draws you in. Okay, they're also at the Motor City Comic Con. I'm talking about the Euphoric tree Fort and what they specialize in is something called smellovision candles. So let me just tell you a little bit about this this this company, because they're they're incredible. Smellovision candles have authentic aromas that enhance the viewing experience of your favorite movies and shows. These are one hundred percent soy and have incredible burn times. They burn clean, and the smells are outrageous what they have come up with. You know, you see a movie, you hear a movie.

59:45 How about you smell a movie. And these candles are designed to burn while you're watching your favorite show or your favorite movie, to really immerse you in the experience. So, for example, I'll tell you right now, most war movies, most Westerns, I can't watch them anymore without burning one I happen to pick up from them called the Bastards, which is a play on inglorious bastards. This candle smells exactly like gun smoke, bourbon, and dry leaves. I don't know how they do it, but it's there. Dave, you have smelled that candle, you know exactly what I'm talking about. I have I smelled all the candles that you know that we approach, and I couldn't believe how how much they smell like it. They have a wide variety of incredible smells that will take you into any movie or any TV show you that you're watching, and even if you're not too sure one of my favorites, it's kind of quickly becoming my go to. They have one called Movie Theater, which smells exactly like popcorn and cola, and Scott, you pointed out the last time we were hanging out, You're like, how do they get the soda smell in with the popcorn? It's there, It's on the lid, you know. Yeah, so if you had to guess, how many movies can you get at a one candle? Actually, we'll be able to quote David, one of the proprietors of the u Ford Tree Fort. We were talking to him. I know, we're planning to have him on the show soon. Scott. I'm already thinking like we need to have like a little vendor spotlight. Yeah, maybe maybe we invite John on to talk about his art in his future projects. Maybe we have David from

1:01:15 u Ford Tree Fort on to talk about the smell of vision candles and what they got coming out next, because they you know, he's excited. They've got a lot going on, and I'm telling you right now, a movie a movie experience is h is not a full movie experience without one of these candles as far as I'm concerned, Yeah, I would love to hear from them like a pairing right to say it, like, yeah, the bastards watch it with these five movies for example, that'd be fantastic. I'm gonna reach out to him and I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell him, we're gonna, we're gonna quiz you. You know, we're gonna give you, like we're gonna give you five movies and you tell us what we need to what we need to pick up from the u Ford Tree affort. Yeah, great, great idea. Yep, Wayne, Where are we heading next?

1:01:59 Well as together as the convent, We're heading to Galaxy Con twenty twenty three in Columbus, Ohio. That is the first weekend of December. But before that, I'm taking a solo mission to Chicago for Thanksgiving weekend. This is the twenty third anniversary Convention Chicago Tartis, which is a specific Doctor Who convention, the main convention of the East Coast. It's a fantastic Doctor Who convention. This year being the sixtieth anniversary of the series. They've got some incredible guests up there, including three doctors themselves, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, and Sevester McQuay, along with what I consider one of Doctor Who royalty, Carolyn Ford, the original companion from nineteen sixty three, is going to be there. It's held every Thanksgiving, phenomenally good convention, and for the first time ever, all of us convention goers there will be able to set down and watch a brand new episode of Doctor Who being transmitted that Saturday, along with its director Nice That is gonna be huge. Well, let me ask you this, Wayne, back to Galaxy Con. There are just there's gotta be at least one hundred people we could we could talk about right now that are gonna be at Galaxy Con and listeners, I would just tell you go online, pull up Galaxy Con twenty twenty three, look at the guest

1:03:30 list. You will be blown away. Wayne. I'll ask you one or two people that you're you're excited to meet, excited to talk with. Anyone come to mind. Are you still looking over the list? Oh? Well, I mean no, I've got my list picked out. There are a lot of Star Trek guests there, so my poster is going to gain I believe it was the loving names. Plus there's there's others. I mean, I'm really excited to meet William Shatner. Who else what other name could be higher on the list to get for the poster than William Shatner, And so Captain Kirk never met him, and I'm looking forward to not only meeting him, but getting my photo taken with him. And I'm really excited about meeting Ron Perlman. I mean, you know, he's another legend. I remember back in the eighties watching him on a TV show called Viewing the Beast and then also including his name. You know, he was one of the main villains with Tom Hardy on Star Trek Nemesis. So I'm happy to be able to add his name to the post. All right, Scott, you're gonna be there. Who you looking forward to seeing? The absolute top of my list has got to be Peter Cullen, iconic voice actor behind Optimus prime E or Monterey Jack from Chippendale Rescue Rangers. Now this year he's getting honored with a Lifetime Achievement Award by the National Academy of Television Arts Sciences. And this

1:05:01 is a This is a voice that means a lot to me, and I cannot wait to meet Peter Uh. There's a lot of Star Trek Royalty that's going to be there. It would be great to meet Todd Stashwick, Captain Shaw from Piccard season and you know a few that are you maybe you might not see at many cons, but I'm very much looking forward to seeing Noel McNeil, who is Bear in the Big Blue House as a you know, father of a puppeteer. I've got to meet Noel McNeil, Chris Sarandon from Fright Night, Princess Bride in the Nightmare before Christmas. That's a big draw.

1:05:43 I know that my my youngest son is interested in seeing Ken Page Bogie Boogie from Nightmare before Christmas. And you know a friend of mine is going to be there. James A. Willis is Ohio's award winning paranormal researcher and author. He has a lot of great books, a lot of great stories about the supernatural and the paranormal in Ohio. So if you want to talk about a show that has a big range, galaxy count is it. So that's who I'm going to be checking out this time. What about you, Dave. There's so many at this convention. It's ridiculous. I know they kept adding and kept adding and saying, oh my god, this convention is going to be ridiculous. One of the guests that are going to be here a few of the guys that you both have already mentioned, But the top of the list is Ron Perlman for me, because he's been in so much over the years. But I can't wait to get his autographed from HELBOWI because that's just what I remember Ron Perlman really from. But let's not forget Evangeline.

1:06:40 Lily's going to be there. You know, I look forward to meeting her. But one that I really want to meet, and I know Jeff is going to probably agree with me on this, somebody I never thought I would get to meet, and that is, of course, Anthony Michael Hall. Yeah. I cannot wait to meet him, not just for the fact that he was in Halloween Kills recently, but we know his career growing up in the eighties and what films he was in, so we all growing up with the movies that he was in. I cannot wait to meet him. I'll tell you right now, I'll be right next to you, guys when you were talking to William Shatner, to Peter Cullen, to Ron Pearlman. But you better believe for me, this is my opportunity to meet one of the greatest individuals on the planet. I'm talking about sixteen time world heavyweight champion Rick the nature Boy Flair. Rick Flair is going to be there, and I'm so excited for this. Uh oh yeah, you'll be able to where his table is because you'll just hear that. Like, my understanding is that he actually gets sick of that when people do that to him. I'm not going to ask him to do that. If he wants to, woo, I will, I'll certainly accept it. But Mike Tyson Iron Mike is going to be there. Hit King Pete Rose is going to be there. So I really dig the fact that Galaxyican is leaning into some sports legends as well.

1:08:03 And you know he's not gonna be the only pro wrestler there. I mean, our buddy Sergeant Slaughter is going to be there, The Hardy Boys, Hacksaw, Jim Duggan, Alison, Kaylita, Trish Stratus, Kevin Nash, who I actually I got a fun Kevin Nash story for you, guys. Not the first time i'd meet him. I met him a long time ago. Even guys like Mick Foley are going to be there, So this one is gonna be huge. I dare say Galaxy Com might be the biggest one that we typically go to every year, right, I think, yeah, definitely worth doing two days with that to spread it out absolutely well, guys, I think that's gonna do it for us this time. And then Dave the following Tuesday. Mary McDonald, she's putting us to work. Yep.

1:08:51 She has requested a specific Lawrence Kasden movie. You want to tell us what that is? Yeah, we are going to be doing Graham Canyon. Yeah, looking forward to talking. I actually I have not seen that one, so I haven't edited. I'm excited to see it. You know. She does happen to be in that one, so it will be fun to see to see her performance as well. Yep. Not often we get homework from somebody who's in the movies, so clearly, yeah, we're looking forward to this one. Yeah, I'll tell you what I'm looking forward to. Guys. You had a successful limited series Strange New Wednesdays, where you recapped season two of Strange New Worlds, and then you kind of kept it going.

1:09:34 You did season four of Lower Decks, which was fantastic, and we kind of made a decision, right, no more limited series about Star Trek shows now before Okay, Star Trek fans, before you get upset, hear us out, we're actually doing a regular occurring series Phasers set the stun. When is it, When does it start? And what can we expect? Yes, Wednesday, December sixth. Like you said, it's going beyond just one series at a time. There's a there's a world to try to explore. We're going to cover movies, We're going to cover series. We're going to give you curated lists for people who are just getting into it. Anything related to Star Trek. We're going to dive into it and give you a closer look. Well, gentlemen, thank you for this roundtable conversation on the con experience. I cannot wait to hit the road with you guys and head to Columbus for Galaxy Con. Listeners. We hope you'll join us, and I'll tell you what. If you see us out there, ask for your free swag. These guys are running around, they're they're carrying they're carrying the color changing stadium cups. They got stickers sometimes, we got T shirts.

1:10:46 You see us, demand your free merch Holt Scott Hoffman hostage if you have to, Yeah, I'll do it for us. We'll talk to you guys later. For you, Thank you,