David Leitch - Atomic Blonde

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I was thinking about the best spy
movies. You know, obviously we immediately

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go to James Bond, But if
I had to pick maybe one of my

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favorites if we're going all time,
yeah, Goldfinger obviously if we're talking James

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Bond. But I think if we're
going all time, I might pick something

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like a north By Northwest. How
about you. It's weird for me to

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try to pick something from the spy
genre because I'm not a huge spy movie

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guy. I mean, obviously there's
Bond, like you said, grew up

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with Bond, he can't escape Bond. But I'm gonna I'm gonna pull a

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couple like eyeball ones out. And
one of the first ones that actually came

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to mind was starring Val Kilmer top
Secret. Top Secret is a deep gut

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Man. I thought you were about
to say, uh, what's that one

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he did with Elizabeth Shoe The Saint. I thought you were gonna go with

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the Saint when you said that was
a pretty cool one as well. And

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hey, the other one that came
to mind was more recent is The Kingsman.

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Oh I love the Kingsman movies.
Yeah, totally love that film.

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I look for something different when it
comes to spies. Maybe you know,

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maybe it might taste in movies a
little bit more pedestrian than some others.

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But well, you want something a
little bit different, let's talk about a

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film by David Leach, his twenty
seventeen action packed spy thriller Atomic Blonde.

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Hello everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson.
This is a Film by podcast and I've

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got an amazing guest to just discuss
Atomic Blonde with me today. Before I

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Speaking of not being disappointed, I
am so excited to finally have this guy

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on a film by podcast talking about
a good friend and an amazing artist,

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John Wright. Hello, John,
Hey, how are you doing. I'm

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doing great, man. I am
so happy that you were a you had

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some time to come on to the
show and especially talk about this movie.

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I've been looking I've been looking forward
to it, man. Oh, me

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too, me too, absolutely,
And this was the first time watch for

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you, right, Atomic blont was. Yeah, I believe so, I

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seemed to when I was watching it. I seem to remember some things here

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and there stop. I probably caught
it on cable, you know, after

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its theatrical run, but I don't
remember like it making. It either didn't

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grab my interest or my you know, paint fumed induced brain or whatever you

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want to call it that's left up
there, just it. It just didn't

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resonate with it at that time.
But yeah, this was so essentially for

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me, this was a first watch, all right. Well, before we

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get into what Atomic Blond is all
about, tell us a little bit about

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the art of John Wright. Well, I used the I use the word

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art somewhat loosely, but I'm just
your your average old nerd who grew up

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loving comic books, grew up love
and sci fi, grew up love and

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horror, and didn't have a whole
lot of friends. So the babysitter and

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the parents would give you, give
me a pencil or a crayon and some

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paper, and it would occupy me
for hours and hours and hours. And

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you know, slowly but surely,
I kind of got away from art,

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got back into it the past few
years, done a few things here and

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there, and kind of inching my
way closer and closer to having my own

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book Fingers crossed. I know you
did an amazing commission for for us.

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Actually we wanted to send something to
a very special lady, Valley. You

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did this incredible Superman piece that just
blew us away, you know, Senace

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A Valerie. Valerie obviously loved it. And since then, yeah, I've

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got I've got several pieces of your
work because you know, we've we've caught

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you on the convention circuit where you
just man your stuff just it blows me

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away, Man, just blows me
away. But I do appreciate that well,

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I'll tell you what listeners if you
if you're not familiar with Atomic Blonde,

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let me give you a little synopsis. Sensual and savage. Lorraine Broughton

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is the most elite spy in m
I six, an agent who's willing to

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use all of her lethal skills to
stay alive during an impossible mission. With

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the Berlin Wall about to fall,
she travels into the heart of the city

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to retrieve a priceless dossier and take
down a ruthless espionage ring. Once there,

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she teams up with an embedded station
chief to navigate her way through the

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deadliest game of spies. John this
movie, we get the opening archival footage

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of Reagan doing the whole you know, mister Gorbachev, tear down your wall.

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You know this is it's Berlin,
It's November nineteen eighty nine, and

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we opened the movie's we see a
hit on this guy body gets dumped into

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the water, and then we transitioned
to Charlie's coming out of out of an

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ice bath and we're off to the
races. Man. Absolutely, absolutely,

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it was very cool watching this,
like we said a few minutes ago,

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for the first time with fresh eyes, because yeah, I was actually lucky

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enough to be in Berlin a couple
of years prior to the wall being torn

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down. What yeah, so I've
been in both East and West Berlin.

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Actually got lost in East Germany for
a day. We took the subway and

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got off from went the wrong spot. So the vibe that this film captured

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was pretty nostalgic for me. Well
how accurate? I mean, because I

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know it's a hyper violent action film, But did they get the esthetic a

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little bit? Like it just looks
cold and desperate? And yes and no.

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I mean when we were there,
we were there on school trip and

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there was a sanctioned tour into East
Berlin, so obviously they kept us to

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the quote unquote nicer parts of Berlin, the cleaner parts. I didn't see

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a lot of trash or debris or
you know, the soot, although some

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of the buildings were very, very
soot covered compared to West Berlin. But

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the most realistic thing for me was
when they're at the checkpoint overlooking the wall,

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because that was I did that.
I mean, that looked dead on

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like it. I'm impressed, man, and I'm I'm a little jealous that

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you got to watch this movie with
that kind of experience in your past,

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unbelievab. So this is this is
the directorial debut of David Leech. Now

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he did co direct John Wick a
couple of years prior with Chad Stahelski,

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and we'll get those philmography later,
but I love the fact Leech is hand

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chosen by Charlie Stone after she sees
John Wick. Yeah, I mean I'm

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not I've not seen Wick. I've
only seen the first one. If I'm

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honest, I've glimpsed some of the
sequels. But again, you know,

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I have this habit of putting movies
on and trying to draw while I'm watching

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movies. So one of two things
happen. Either I get no art done

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or I fall into the art and
I have no idea what's going on in

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the movie. But yeah, and
I did not know that this was the

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same director. So when I'm watching
this, I got like a really really

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strong John Wick vibe right from the
action and from just the way it's shot.

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Yeah, very very, very very
stylish. The movie feels very connected

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to the John Wick universe, so
much so much that when asked in twenty

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seventeen whether a potential crossover could happen. David Leitch smiled and responded, that

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sounds like a great idea. Before
we get to the cast, there's one

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other. There's someone else. I
got to point out to Jonathan Seali's cinematography

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is superb, the neon colors of
the underground clubs clashing with the cold,

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harsh setting of the Cold War era
Berlin. Camera's always moving and oftentimes,

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John it kind of feels like it's
framed like a comic book. It does,

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and it's based on a comic.
You're trying the Coldest City? Thank

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you? Yes, I would.
I would love to get my hands on

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a copy of that now, now
that I've done a little digging on this

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on this film, love to get
a hold of that one. Because I'm

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I don't know about you, I'm
a big fan of the graphic novels that

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aren't necessarily about the DC and the
MCU characters. Yeah, when you get

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something something like this or something like
from Hell or Ghost World, I love

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I love books like that very much. So let's let's talk about this cast.

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Charlie's their own as in My six
agent Lorraine Broughton. She's also a

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co producer in the film and for
for a very good reason, because uh,

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she receives an unpublished manuscript of the
graphic novel. Yeah, and she

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spends the next five years trying to
get at Greenlit. That's not something you

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would I would necessarily associate with Charliet
their own you know. However, you

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know, looking back at you know, like Mad Max, you know,

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her role as Furiosa, I can
definitely see that now. But yeah,

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when when this was first coming out, I'm like, I just don't see

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her as an action hero. But
she, I stand correct, she proved

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me wrong. Yeah, and you
know she she herself. She credits the

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success of Mad Max Fury Road for
getting this one developed and on the screen.

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One thing I love. She works
with eight personal trainers to prepare for

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the physicality of the role, which
I know we're going to talk a little

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bit about, but during which she
cracks her teeth and bruises ribs and John.

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I don't know if you know this. She has a very unusual sparring

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partner and well, but more on
that, you know in a bit.

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I'll save that for I'm gonna kick
that down the road so we can we

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can talk about that. I'm gonna
I'm gonna ask you. Yeah, is

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she not the sexiest woman to smoke
on camera since Sharon Stone? And basic

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instinct? Yeah, you know,
be it, be it. You know,

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I'm not a fan of smoking nor
I yea and everybody in this movie,

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but like two people I think smoke. This could have been sponsored by

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Marlborough. Man, it's definitely so
it's unreal. But I'll tell you what.

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When when when she takes uh,
when she takes that cigarette out of

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McAvoy's mouth, it takes a slow
drag. I'm all in. I'm like,

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you know, I don't like cigarette
smoking, but I don't I don't

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smoke. But man, she she's
welcome to. I think it goes to

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show that where she's at with his
character, This character is a female in

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a quote unquote male dominated or at
least perceived as a male dominated game.

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Absolutely, he's out to say that, you know, I can. You

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guys think you're something I can't.
I can. You know I can hang

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with the best of you. I'm
better than I'm better than anybody out there.

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Yeah, she leaves the pack as
far as I'm concerned. Uh,

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yeah, what I said, macavoy. So we're talking about James McAvoy.

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He plays David Percival. He's the
My six agent who's gone slightly rogue after

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being undercover for a decade in Berlin. I'm a I'm a big macavoy fan.

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I don't know about you, but
you know, yes, I love

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his work, Yes I did have. I did have trouble separating him from

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the Beast a little bit in this
because of the haircut. You know,

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it's the same haircut, it's the
same as you know. Well, there's

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a reason for that because he's kind
of he's kind of he's doing pickup shots

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for Split, you know, while
he's also filming this. I did not

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know that. And here's a great
thing. His character gets injured in the

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movie. You know, he wears
a cast for like about half the movie.

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There's a reason for that because when
they were on a filming break,

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he went back to shoot several scenes
on Split. He broke his hand on

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the settle Split. He calls David
Leach up. He says, hey,

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I got a problem. I broke
my hand and Leech says, oh,

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that's not a problem. Leech rewrites
the script right there to add it in.

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So you see him wearing a cast
it's it's not because it's aesthetically pleasing

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for his character. It's because he
legitimately broke his hand and he had to

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protect it. How about that.
Yeah, Split's an awesome one. I'd

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love to Yeah, Split's awesome.
You know, we might have to cover

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that one if we do another m
Night movie, because that one's fantastic.

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That is, let's talk about We
got a couple other supporting players here.

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John Goodman as Cursefield. He's the
senior CIA agent. John Goodman is one

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of my favorite character actors of all
time. I mean, everything this man

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touches is golden, from King Ralph
to Dan Connor to this, I mean,

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the guy is great. I just
I absolutely love him in this role.

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Leach speaking about his performance. I
read something where Leach said, when

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you get John Goodman, you use
him as much as possible. And let

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me ask you this because I know
we're about to talk about Toby Jones.

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Also, I love the framing of
this movie where when we open, you

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know, I talked about Charlie's coming
out of that ice bath, She's she's

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had the hell beat out of her. I mean she has bruised, cut,

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scarred. She gets out of this
ice bath. It's an amazing moment

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with an incredible David probably my favorite
David Boie song talking about uh putting out

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fire. Yes, you know the
cat the cat People's song. Mm hmm.

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It's so good, and you're like, what happened to her? And

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then we we kind of get that
we pull back, it's like ten days

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later and that what we see is
like it's the movie's juxtaposed to where we're

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getting a debrief She's being debriefed by
Bye by John Goodman's character the you know,

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he's he's c I A. And
then we got Toby Toby Jones playing

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Eric Gray. He's the m I
six superior. I wish we could have

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more John Goodman and Toby Jones.
I know we can't for the obvious reason.

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But what did you think of that? How they kept pulling, pulling

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you back and forth. I really
enjoyed that, and I really enjoyed that

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Toby is not Toby is not a
physically intimidating person. Yeah, you know,

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and there's one point in the interrogation
where she basically looks at him and

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he's like, who are you?
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she looks at him, and her
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eyes clearly say she's like, no, you're not, yeah, not even

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close. Yeah, she I mean
Goodman's sitting there, you know, because

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she has that moment where she's like, hey, I respectfully request that he'd

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hey, I can go stand behind
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that makes you feel feel fine.
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Jones, you're right, he's not. He's not intimidating, and that

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right, she might as well roll
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Toby Jones. He always it seems
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he's either debriefing you or he's someone
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a fan of him. Yeah,
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smartest guy, or at least he
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you know. And it's interesting because
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grizzled vet. He's been in the
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now on the management side of things
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Toby has never been out of the
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hard to believe he'd ever done any
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has done all his stuff on like
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there's a there's a scene. Well
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I'll tell you what. Let me
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agent. Mm hmm. Okay.
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in the graphic novel, and the
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character to a female because it's gonna
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of the way. Uh, let's
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uh, you know, the steamy
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might she mentions the dancers thing because
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watch that moment, it's it's almost
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yeah, yeah, I mean and
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this is the dance scene in the
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to take place between two women.
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that I do like the character of
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at this, but she's out,
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she I like it when she's basically
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not as good as you think it
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you know. She basically confesses,
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this game as well. She she
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to the little details, and she
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and you're right, she's she's so
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the field and entering the game.
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movie, it almost it's it's almost
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like when you do a rewatch of
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arc of her character, and she's
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I really love that person, but
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think that's the tragedy that Charlene's character
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this girl doesn't either get out or
or get really tough, she's not gonna

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make it much longer. I almost
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out for her. You know,
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love very easily, and and it's
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on the agent that was killed and
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see it a lot in the Bond
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and leaves them, and I don't
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the movies, spies are known for
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thing about Charlie's her carecharacter. Yes
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connects with with the person and it's
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or when she sees them hurt.
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you know we were talking about this
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her and Charley's their own do.
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debriefing and he he looks embarrassed to
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Shirlene's character Lorraine has given him very
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where he's kind of like, so
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she goes, obviously yes, and
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told him everything in graphic detail.
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embarrassed. I think three other guys. Well, I want to point out

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we can talk about him as much
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also in small supporting roles. We
see Till Schweiger, who if you haven't

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seen The Man from Uncle or you
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guy is amazing and he's got such
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an important one. He's the watchmaker. Uh yes. And then you got

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you got Eddie Marson who's playing Spyglass. He's like the the leak, you

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know, he's the guy that has
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surprisingly, I forgome I had completely
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a young Bill scars Guard. Yes, that caught it caught me way off

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guard. I was like, wait, wait a minute, that's scars Guard.

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you hadn't seen all the all the
Wick films, but he is like the

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heavy he's the main guy in the
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and he is. He is perfect
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in the role. But kind of
cool to see him here years before.

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Definitely, so definitely so. I
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from it than anything else. And
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he chews up the scenery when he's
on screen, and he he holds his

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own very well. I love it
when Charlie meets him in East Berlin and

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he's sitting on top of the on
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yeah, and she's like, what
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I'm kind of a fixture for the
now and he flips him off. You

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know. That's his way of waving
to the spies that are watching him.

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He's like, I know I'm being
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Yeah, he has a great what's
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of those uh, keep your friend, you know, keep your enemies close

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to your friend's closer type of type
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sly. He's fantastic in this John. I think we need to take a

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quick break. When we get back, we'll talk a little bit about the

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background of the film. We got
to talk about these fight scenes. So

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there's three fight scenes. I want
to I want to kind of dissect with

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you, So stay tuned. We're
back talking with a friend and artist John

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Wright. It's David Leech's Atomic Blonde. John we talked about this one being

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based off a graphic novel The Coldest
City. Uh, it was Anthony Johnston

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and Sam Hart that came up with
this. I I don't recognize their names

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in the in the in the comic
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was like a one off or what. But I'm not really sure, but

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I'm I'm like you, I think
I might be trying to hunt this one

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down. I'm absolutely looking for this
one. David Leach chooses to direct Atomic

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Blonde over John Wick Chapter two,
but both films are using the same trainers,

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which leads to Charlie their own befriending
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himself. Keanu Reeves. I did
not know that. How amazing would that

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be to be like, oh,
yeah, I'm working on the John Wick

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movie, or I'm working on this
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Charlie's and Kna Reeves sparring and training
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mean, if they, like you
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even if it's just even if it's
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two, which is rumored to be
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they just bump into each other's shoulders
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of give each other this knowing look. Just something to connect these worlds.

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This is so Charlie's. This is
nineteen eighty nine, the setting of this

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movie. So either give us a
young Wick in an Atomic Blonde two or

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give us Charlie's now in a Wick
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just a just a passing glance that
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of these films. I think.
Speaking of John Wick, the Carl F.

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Booker watch is prominently featured throughout the
film. Leech happens to be a

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brand ambassador. So that's why it's
kind of like the mcguffin in this movie,

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and that's why it's also won by
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only product placement, because you'll spot
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she us she's using several Christian der
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brand ambassador for them. So whether
it's her per perfume or the or the

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stiletto heels that she wears, which
we're definitely gonna talk about here in a

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minute, you'll you'll find you'll find
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well. One thing I love and
uh, I know, we're definitely gonna

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talk about this also. Uh songs
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the movie, and it was so
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capture the mood and help the actors
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you were like, hey, you
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were listening to it the music while
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music blaring on set so they could, like Charlie's could could pace her walk

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to to match it. Other you
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we get ninety nine left balloons,
when the Russian is is making good use

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of a skateboard. I'll say,
yeah, yeah, yeah, so and

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you know that kind of takes me
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the esthetic and stuff when we were
there in Berlin. I was lucky enough

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to spend two days, two and
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nights we went to they took us
out to a nightclub. So it's,

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you know, a bunch of high
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I mean, this was the music
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know. I remember. I think
that was the first time I heard ninety

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nine loft balloons in German, you
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and Goakoma Sar and all this stuff, you know. So my favorite

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Blue Monday song in it. You
know, I'll tell you you know what

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you get, you get me fired
up for the for the music. So

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we're gonna jump to the music.
First off, I'll say the score for

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this is fantastic. And if you're
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style of the music because it's Tyler
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but he also builds a score that
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has chosen. So, John,
let's talk about what might be the greatest

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various artist soundtrack for a film in
the two thousands. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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run down this track list because you
started, you start, you started,

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you started naming them. So listen
to this soundtrack track. No, no,

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we're we're right on track. So
we're talking David David Bowie's Cat People

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putting up Fire, which I honestly
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That was I don't remember that from
The Glorious Bastards, but it's been

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In my defense, it's been a
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at the end when Shoshana is they're
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to the theater, and she's kind
of she's putting on our makeup, but

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it most feels like she's she's putting
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yeah, that's that's when you get
it. But uh, but back to

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this incredible uh set list. Here
you got Bowis Cat People, you got

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Major Tom by Peter Shilling. You
mentioned Blue Monday by New Order. We

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got Nine on Left Balloons by Nina
dr Kamisar by Falco Cities in the Dust.

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I hadn't heard that song in forever. That's Susie and the ban Cheese.

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Yes you also have you also have
Iran by a Flock of Seagulls voices

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Carrie By Too by Till Tuesday.
When that one is used so well in

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this it is used it's just perfect. That's probably the best best use of

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a song in this smooth in this
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London Calling by the class. That's
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also are treated to some great uh, some great covers. You know,

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we got we got an under Pressure
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we get the Peste mode behind the
Wheel. I haven't heard that one

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in a long time. I don't
know if this this might be one of

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the great I think this has to
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film after the year two thousand.
It's up there. There's a couple I'd

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probably put up against it, but
we'll go down a whole other tangent and

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be talking about them forever. So
but it's it's definitely good. It's probably

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the I would argue, if it's
not the best soundtrack, it's the best

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used soundtracked within the context of a
film, because I like that every song

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00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.839
is matched perfectly to the scene it
is in. Okay, I liked I

404
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:52.599
liked that best best use of existing
music in a film. I think that

405
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.319
works. That absolutely works. We
got to talk about these fight scenes absolutely,

406
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.880
So let's start. Let's start with
what I I'm want to call this.

407
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:02.839
This is the this is one.
This one's a bit of a tease.

408
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.519
It's it's the back it's the back
seat fight. Gun versus stiletto,

409
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:14.240
high heel h wow clost quarter combat
at its finest. I love. I

410
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:18.400
love anytime like you get a close
quarter combat fight like uh like cap and

411
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:22.720
Civil War in the elevator side or
the raid going down that hallway. I

412
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.599
think Daredevil, the Daredevil series did
did some great close quarter combat. But

413
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:32.440
she is beating the ship out of
this guy in the back seat, and

414
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.279
she's using her high heel shoe,
she's using the seat belt. He's trying

415
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:40.079
to you know, blow her head
off. It's it's just awesome. For

416
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.640
for like a minute, you're just
like, what's gonna happen? Right,

417
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.960
It's it's it's so great. And
she gets the warning signs that something's not

418
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:55.119
up, something's not right with these
two guys that have picked her up from

419
00:31:55.119 --> 00:32:00.519
the airport, and she just you
know, like like you do sometimes when

420
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:01.880
you get off a plane. She
kind of bends down to take her take

421
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.519
her shoes off, and kind of
stretch her feet a little bit, and

422
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.039
the next thing you know, it's
a stiletto to the chest, knocking the

423
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.559
wind out of the guy that's next
her. And then the little details like

424
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:16.000
when she punches him and knocks him
into the window, there's a little a

425
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:21.920
little blossom of blood on the splintered
window in the guy a little spider crack.

426
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:24.599
Yes, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. And I don't know if you

427
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.240
caught this. You know, during
this scene, right after the scene is

428
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:34.839
when she first meets Macavoy's character.
Yeah, And he's taking her to where

429
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.960
she's staying in Berlin, and she's
like, my hotel's right up here,

430
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.160
and he's like, I thought she
said you'd never been to Berlin before.

431
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:46.079
She never tells him she's never been
to Berlin. She tells the two guys

432
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:51.440
in the car that pick her up
that she's never been to Berlin. I

433
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.039
can't believe I missed that. It
took a couple of watches to pick up

434
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:59.599
on that. That is, so
he he gives himself away right there exactly.

435
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.720
And this is double agents and triple
Agents and you just assume like he's

436
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:05.599
just like, you know, she's
coming to rein him in and he's gonna

437
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.200
help her out. But wow,
I never even I never picked up on

438
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:12.680
that because it's you know, because
she has a great line there where he's

439
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.240
like, I thought, you know, it's just like I can read a

440
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.759
map exactly, you know, but
I didn't pick up that's a big easter

441
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:21.160
egg, man. I never even
noticed that. I thought it was.

442
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:23.880
I didn't know if it was intentional
or not, you know, but it

443
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.960
works within the context. But you
know, back to the fight scene,

444
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:34.319
it's it reminds me a little bit
of I'm a huge Jackie Chan guy,

445
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:38.480
and this reminds you of like something
I would see in a Jackie Chan movie.

446
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:43.039
Granted it's truncated from what you would
see in a in a Chan movie,

447
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.960
and it's not quite as over the
top, but it's it's awesome.

448
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:51.119
And when she you know, she
unbuckles the driver's seat and reaches over and

449
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.160
cranks the wheel, and then she
dives in the back seat to grab the

450
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:58.559
seat belt, it's like, you
know, it's probably one of the more

451
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:02.599
real fight scenes that I've seen in
movies. You know, she like you

452
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:06.960
said earlier, she doesn't walk away
from any of these scenes without scars or

453
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:12.280
bruises or cuts or or something.
She literally gets the shit kicked out of

454
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:17.239
her this entire movie. She's she's
not the invincible superhero type of of of

455
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:22.320
hero that we see in some movies, right, She's she's more of a

456
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.280
Jama clan. She is like when
she gets hit. When she gets hit,

457
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:29.440
you feel it. When she hits
someone, you feel it worse.

458
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:35.119
It's fantastic. I'll tell you one
one more thing before we leave the backseat

459
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:40.519
fight. If there's something about that
tunnel it must just it just must bring

460
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.199
fights to it, because I think
you know what I'm talking about. This

461
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:50.039
is the same tunnel. What am
I talking about? Let the listeners know.

462
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.920
I think would have to be Civil
War it is. This is the

463
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:59.599
same tunnel that the Black Panther goes
after Bucky Barnes in Captain America Civil War.

464
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:07.840
So moving on, if this backseat
fight was the teas the apartment fight,

465
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.880
now now now we're in the action. Because I'm sorry, but you

466
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:17.360
will never look at a garden hose
the same way again. No, God,

467
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:24.480
no, no, Charlie's you know
versus several cops a small garden hose

468
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:28.599
and she's she's she's using it like
a bull whip, she's using it like

469
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:34.039
a baton, she's using it to
strangle them. Mm hmm. It's incredible.

470
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.559
And the fact that it's so high
octane, but you're kind of you're

471
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:43.920
kind of feel like you're watching in
slow motion because George Michael's Father Figure is

472
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.960
playing throughout the entire scene. Yeah, that's one of those weird music chased

473
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:52.039
choices, but it God, it
works, it does, right. Leech

474
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:57.599
actually wanted Take My Breath Away from
Berlin, but he couldn't get the rights,

475
00:35:57.639 --> 00:35:59.960
so he settled. He settles on
Father Figure. But I think Father

476
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.400
figures the better way to go.
Yeah, I could see it working with

477
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:07.159
the other one, but Father Figure
is definitely the way to go because it

478
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.000
out of context. It's it's totally
out of context, but it works,

479
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.199
it does. I I love when
she grabs the frying pan as just beating

480
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:20.360
the snot out of the guys with
the frying pan, you know. And

481
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.960
and of course my favorite is the
balcony escape. Okay, so again where

482
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:29.320
it's not that it's it's not as
close as the back seat of a BMW.

483
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:35.320
But we're in these tiny, cramped
little apartments, and when she's grabbing

484
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.280
anything that's within reach, this woman
makes a weapon out of anything from the

485
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:43.880
guard hose to the to the to
the pots and pans. And I catch

486
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:49.400
myself like my my jaw drops or
like my wins a little bit, depending

487
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.440
on some of the hits that you
see people take and some of the hits

488
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:58.440
that she takes. But the escape
where she wraps she wraps the guard hose

489
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.840
around a guy's through, using him
as an anchor basically, and then just

490
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:07.280
runs and jumps off the balcony.
It's awesome, exactly. I wish we'd

491
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.840
gotten a little bit more of what
happened to that guy. You know,

492
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:14.079
it did end well fore, but
it does not end well for that guy.

493
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.840
And I'll tell you though that that
scene it ends well for us because

494
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:20.440
I was like, man, I
I don't know if I can take much

495
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.519
more, Like this is what do
you get? What do you got next?

496
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.559
And I'll tell you what we got
next? John. If we if

497
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.559
we've had the t's and we've we've
had the action, get ready for the

498
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:37.280
get ready for the climax, because
this hotel fight at the end. Without

499
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:42.719
question, it's the bloodiest. It's
the most brutal fight sequence I've seen in

500
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:49.639
any film, and it's perfect.
There's no music, so when you hear

501
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:54.719
glass breaking and the character's heavy panting, it's really amplified, like you're right

502
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:59.119
there with them. I feel like, yeah, and this scene goes on

503
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.039
for ten minutes? Does it really
go on that long? It's almost ten

504
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:06.840
minutes that it clocks in at Oh
my god, telling you you feel every

505
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:10.920
punch, you feel every kick,
and they exhaust themselves. I mean,

506
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.199
think about that. Yeah. I
love the fact that as as she continues

507
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.599
to dispatch people like the one,
the one guy, like you know,

508
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.599
he's he's one of the main henchmen
who kind of you know, he he

509
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:25.639
goes the distance with her basically and
they are stumbling, they're falling back,

510
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.880
like she gets up but then she
falls just just collapses. Yeah. Get

511
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.719
we talked about realistic fight scenes.
I feel like this is one of the

512
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.679
most realistic things because we're watching people
just destroy each other, but they are

513
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:45.679
taking time to you know, get
catch their breath, and they're they're crawling,

514
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:51.800
they're not hopping back up. It's
amazing. There's the one guy in

515
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.000
it. This may be the main
henchman that you were referring to. It's

516
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:58.079
towards the end of the fight scene
where she eventually gets the better of him

517
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.199
and he falls over back words on
these steps, and I mean, kudos

518
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:07.239
to this stuntman, because the dude
was stiff as a board when he did

519
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.000
this, And I'm like, how
in the world did they pull this stunt

520
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.840
off? I mean, the guy
drops like he's dead, and he doesn't.

521
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.960
He doesn't flop. I mean,
he drops and you can tell it

522
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.039
hurt. Yeah, I mean,
and think about this. Kudos to Charlie's

523
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:28.239
their own also, because she does
the majority of her own stunts, including

524
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.639
the tumble down the marble stairs,
And I'm like, how do they do

525
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.719
that? How do they do that? I did some digging. It turns

526
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:39.000
out that those stairs were actually padded. They're like pads that they made look

527
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:43.199
like marble. Oh wow, I
don't care. They're like when you watch

528
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.840
her get thrown down a flight of
stairs, it's still like, I don't

529
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:51.159
care if it's pads or not.
How how is this woman doing it right?

530
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:55.199
Because in this it looks bad,
you know, And this fight scene

531
00:39:55.280 --> 00:40:00.480
in particular, you'd reference Daredevil a
few minutes ago. This is the Aredevil

532
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:05.840
fight scene. This is that hallway
fight from Daredevil on steroids because it seems

533
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.079
like it seems like, you know, it starts out as a gun dottle

534
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:13.239
and it ends up hand to hand
combat. And I love when she's she

535
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.639
gets she gets the guy up to
the room and he's he's been shot.

536
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:21.119
He's hurt. Spyglass, Yeah,
spy Glass is hurt, and she's like,

537
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:22.960
go over there, you know,
she kind of motions him over to

538
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.320
the side. She you know,
she hides with the gun. She takes

539
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:29.400
one guy out when he comes in
the next guy and she's out of bullets

540
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.480
and she's behind the wall and she's
got that gun wrapped up and she's gonna

541
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.880
use it. As you know,
the butt of the gun is a weapon.

542
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.360
And I'm like, I've never seen
anybody like you see people do it

543
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:45.199
all the time and these but you've
never actually seen it played out realistically like

544
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:50.039
it is here. Yeah. Absolutely, the whole sequence was based off of

545
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.480
Children of Men. There's a there's
a there's a sequence of Children of Men

546
00:40:53.519 --> 00:41:00.159
that is kind of close quarter combat
throughout a throughout a hotel uh and Leech

547
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.920
kind of took inspiration from that because
he felt it was important to stay up

548
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.960
close and personal with the character until
it ends. By far, it's one

549
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:13.679
of my favorite fight scenes that I
have seen. Its h I was sitting

550
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:17.480
here before we started, I was
like, Okay, what's the best fight

551
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:23.079
sequence I've ever seen in a movie
that's that can top this? And there's

552
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.480
probably one out there. I'm not
thinking about it, but the fact that

553
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:30.079
I'm struggling to the fact that it
can't just instantly we can't say, oh,

554
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.480
it's it's such and such in this
movie, right that says something about

555
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.440
how amazing this fight sequence is.
That's what That's where I'm at with it.

556
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:44.840
Yeah, the choreography on this fight
scene is it's amazing. There's no

557
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:46.800
other word for it. It's the
aesthetics of it. And you know,

558
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:50.760
I've talked about it on a couple
other podcasts have done on with when we're

559
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:54.320
talking about like fight scenes and stuff
in the way they're shot, and this

560
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.320
one shot, like you said,
you feel like you're in the middle of

561
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:04.000
this with them. You're you're not
involved in the fight, but you're seeing

562
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.559
everything that goes on. You're you're
just off to the side. You know,

563
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:09.760
you're if this was Rocky, you'd
be the guy, and you know

564
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:15.719
you'd be Burgess Meredith's character in the
in the Corner of the Ring, absolute

565
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:22.719
water and everything. It's just it's
so well done. It is. We're

566
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.320
gonna take one more break, and
when we get back, we're gonna talk

567
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:38.840
about David Leach and his small but
impressive filmography. All right, John,

568
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:44.000
So I'm gonna give you. I'm
gonna give you two little tidbits about David

569
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:50.719
Leach and then a quote. All
right, So he enters Hollywood as a

570
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:54.039
stuntman in nineteen ninety five, just
so happens to be Brad Pitts stunt double.

571
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:59.239
He's worked with him on Fight Club, The Mexican Spy Game, Ocean's

572
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:05.039
Eleven, Troy, and Mister and
Missus Smith. He's also doubled Van Dam

573
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:13.039
twice. Another interesting fact, David
Leach is skilled in several martial arts,

574
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:19.239
including muy Thai shoot wrestling, boxing. He's competed in kickboxing on the national

575
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:22.679
level. And when I found that
out, if you remember us talking about

576
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.800
Guy Ritchie a few weeks ago,
him being a black belt in several martial

577
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:30.119
arts. Let's see these two in
the ring, like just you know,

578
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:35.239
friendly, but you know i'd pay
money to watch that one man. Yeah,

579
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.039
I mean, And I had looked
up after I looked up to who

580
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.360
directed this, and I saw I
didn't read his entire bio, just a

581
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.719
couple of sentences. And that was
the first sentence in his bio that he

582
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:49.199
is you know, he holds belts
and all these disciplines, and like we

583
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:53.119
were talking about before the break the
fight scenes, it shows in these fight

584
00:43:53.199 --> 00:44:00.280
scenes. It really shows. Yeah, well to that point when we're talking

585
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:05.159
about how how he likes to direct, this is a This is an amazing

586
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:08.639
I think this is a great quote
from him. David Leech says, quote,

587
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:14.440
I think the biggest thing you take
from the stunt world is your understanding

588
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:19.800
of the filmmaking process. For years, you've worked with every other department closely.

589
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:24.239
You know hair, makeup, wardrobe, special effects, and you know

590
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:30.559
what everybody's needs are and their expectations. You also know how to collaborate with

591
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:35.920
them. That's that's fantastic. I
mean that this is a guy who you

592
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:42.559
can tell he's involved from all aspects, right because he is. He's worked

593
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:46.239
on everything from the The Conan,
the Barbarian remake, to The Wolverine to

594
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:52.360
to Jurassic World and Captain American Civil
War as an as an assistant director.

595
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.880
So so he's definitely one of those
guys that you can tell he knows about

596
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.199
everything on set because he cares about
everything on set. And that's what that's

597
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.000
what I think about this guy.
Yeah, it does show, and it

598
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:08.119
does show in his filmmaking that he's
got an incredible grasp of everything that's going

599
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:15.039
on. I think you don't always
see that with a director, especially you

600
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:21.039
know, a director that's never really
done much else other than maybe direct.

601
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.360
You know this guy, this guy's
been on the other side of the camera,

602
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:27.800
like you said, a few a
few times I had. I had

603
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.280
no idea. It was Brad Pitt's
stunt double and you know double for Van

604
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:37.800
Dam, which I find kind of
fun. Yeah, It's it's one thing.

605
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:39.719
I mean, if you and if
you look at the guy, he's

606
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:44.480
he's got a little bit of a
Tyler Jurdon look to him. If if

607
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.599
you look his name, look at
his picture. So I see that.

608
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:52.039
But but Van Dam, that's okay, Like what Okay, interesting choice,

609
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.239
but hey, I guess you know
the check cleared, So why not?

610
00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.760
Why not? Uh? Why not
talk about this guy's film. Like I

611
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.000
said, he hasn't done that many, but I feel like he is just

612
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:09.480
getting started. We've been talking about
Atomic Blonde's that's his solo directorial debut in

613
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:15.679
twenty seventeen. The very next year, he gives us Deadpool two. I

614
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:22.320
love that film. I absolutely love
that film. Deadpool changed the superhero movie

615
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.599
in ways we never expected. And
for anyone to come along and say,

616
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.599
hey, I'm the new guy gonna
I'm gonna do the sequel, that's a

617
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:36.400
big Those are some big shoes to
fill, I feel like, but Deadpool

618
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:40.679
Too is just as good. Yeah, it does have a different aesthetic to

619
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:45.039
it somewhat than the first one,
but it's very much it's very much in

620
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:52.360
with the first one and a visual
light visually. And I remember, you

621
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.079
know, I'm a big fan of
Kevin Smith and listening to his podcast and

622
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:58.679
they're talking about the first one and
how this guy comes out of nowhere to

623
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:00.360
do in a video game. To
director, I think he was to direct

624
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:06.199
Deadpool one, and and this guy's
kind of coming out of nowhere as well

625
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.639
too. And here's a stuff mans. Yeah, oh yeah, you know,

626
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:13.880
here's a stuff man that's direct now
yeah, and we've seen that before.

627
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:15.280
I mean, like, the most
notable that comes to mind for me

628
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:21.760
is how neat him and doesn't compare
it. No, yeah, doesn't compare

629
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:25.840
it, you know, you know, but yeah I can. I can

630
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:29.840
see it, you know, having
looked at his filmography, which you'll go

631
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:34.039
more into in a minute, I've
seen it. I've seen snippets of that

632
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:37.639
in this of every one of those
films, in this film and vice,

633
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.519
I agree with you, and for
me, the draw when when the when

634
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.800
the trailer came out for Deadpool two. I don't know about you, but

635
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.280
Cable was always one of my favorite
that's been so I was like, don't

636
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.199
don't screw this up. You got
Josh Brolin, don't screw it up.

637
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:59.559
And he hit a home run as
far as I'm I'm concerned. Twenty nineteen,

638
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:05.920
he jumps into the Fast and Furious
world with in my opinion, one

639
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:09.599
of the better films because it's the
Hobbs and Shaw. It's like the the

640
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:14.800
movie that's it's part of the Fast
and Furious, but it's not that's serious

641
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:16.880
adjacent. Yeah, it's fast and
furious adjacent. Because you got hob you

642
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:22.079
got you got to you know,
I I apologize because I love those movies.

643
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:23.079
I own them all, but I
couldn't tell you one from the other

644
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:27.960
because they're just they're just junk food
movies. But you got you got the

645
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:30.159
Rock. You know, he's he's
playing Hobbes, and then you got Jason

646
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.639
Statham who is Shaw, and they
kind of make they kind of do like

647
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:39.280
this midnight run, like this buddy
cop type of situation with them because they

648
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:45.039
gotta they gotta take on Idris Elba, who is sort of I'm not gonna

649
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:49.800
say superpowered, but he's he's amplified, to say the least. I don't

650
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:52.039
know the movie. It's it's it's
it's a dumb popcorn movie, but it's

651
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:57.000
a lot of fun. It's got
a killer soundtrack. Vanessa Kirby's in it,

652
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.119
Helen Mirren, Eddie Marson who also
so you know, I think at

653
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:05.639
Marson shows up a lot in uh
in Leeches films, but uh, I

654
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:07.480
don't know Hobbs and Shaw. I
think it's one of the better fast and

655
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:12.719
furious movies, even if it's not
a fast and furious movie. Fast and

656
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.639
Furious. I like the first one. I haven't really liked much since if

657
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.320
I'm honest, and the first one
is is flawed, just like the rest

658
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:22.280
of them. But like you said, these aren't movies you're going to for

659
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:27.800
deep You're not looking for new meaning
in a fast and furious movie. I

660
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:32.920
mean, they're the equivalent of from
my childhood the afternoon Kung Fu theater.

661
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.480
Yeah, you're not looking You're watching
it for the stunt. You're watching it,

662
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.599
like, what are they gonna what
are they gonna do this car motorcycle

663
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:44.920
next? You know? Yeah,
I think as far as spinoffs go,

664
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:46.760
though, you could do a lot
worse than Hobbs and Shall Like I said,

665
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:51.400
I it's a fun time as far
as I'm concerned. Yeah, I'll

666
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.440
tell you one that that caught me
off guard. I did not expect it

667
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:59.239
to be as amazing as it was. I know our buddy Dayton Johnson feels

668
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:00.639
the same way because we covered it. We did it. We did one

669
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:04.960
of our back to the box office
movie reviews because we went out and saw

670
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:09.840
it on opening night. Talking about
Bullet Train with Brad Pitt, Did you

671
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:14.960
catch that one? John I caught
it on I caught it on Prime not

672
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:20.679
too long after it hit there.
Really really enjoyed that flick. Oh yeah,

673
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:24.840
it's again one thing that Leech I
feel like he definitely has a knack

674
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:31.960
for. It's the the hyper violence, the stylized set pieces, the great

675
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:37.920
banter between characters. Yep, Bratt, Brad Pitt, Aaron Taylor, Johnson,

676
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:42.679
Brian Tyree, Henry. This movie's
packed with some some great some great

677
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:46.599
people. One of my favorite guys, Hirooki Sonata, is in this one.

678
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.840
It's just fantastic, man, It's
it is a fun action film.

679
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.400
Yeah again, you're not it's nothing. You're looking for deep meaning in and

680
00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:00.960
I do you no insult by me
saying that it's a popcorn movie. But

681
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:07.519
it's like you said, it's visually, it's you know, it reminds me

682
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.079
a little bit of this movie visually, now that I think about it,

683
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:16.920
You've got the he tends to not
so much in Deadpool, but maybe some

684
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:21.199
of the other ones he tends to
like he uses a lot of Neon.

685
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.719
Oh yeah, I know. Neon
is kind of big and some of the

686
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:32.480
Japanese culture and the landscape because of
the way the cities and stuff are built

687
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:37.719
up. But yeah, I mean
the the aesthetic for this now, you

688
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:42.440
know, it's kind of in line
with Atomic Blonde. It looks a lot

689
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:46.679
that both movies are very very similar
looking. Yeah, it absolutely. It

690
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:52.599
just it blows my mind that we
can have this much action on a train

691
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:57.000
that's you know, it's not like
the train's going to derail or go,

692
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:00.039
you know, explode or anything like
that. But what do you think,

693
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:07.360
John, if we're talking intense train
movies, I'll give you I'll give you

694
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:12.400
Chris Evans and snow Piercer, I'll
give you Brad Pitt and Bullet Train,

695
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.840
and then I'll give you that awesome
I think it was Korean last Train to

696
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:22.480
Bussan, the zombie one on the
on the train. I will, okay,

697
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:28.199
but I to do yes. I
was gonna ask you, like,

698
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:29.920
you know, where do you put
Bullet Train? Is it? Is it

699
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:34.920
the best out of train out of
what I've seen. I'm gonna rank it

700
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.239
number one? Okay, all right? Yeah, I'm and no disrespect to

701
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:42.400
like the some classics like I know, uh Void, John Void did Runaway

702
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.920
Train. Yeah, it's it was
good. I liked it, but it's

703
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:49.559
not bullet trained. It is definitely
not bullet trained. Let's talk about what's

704
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:54.960
next for Chad Leech and maybe what
we want to see. So this I'm

705
00:52:55.000 --> 00:53:00.199
excited for if I feel like he
basically he's doing this one for you,

706
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.880
John This, if if this,
if this, If there was ever a

707
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.440
John Wright film, it's this one. He's in pre production on a movie

708
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:14.960
called Undying Love. It's based on
a comic book series by Tom Coker and

709
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:21.960
Daniel Friedman. Listen to this synopsis. An ex soldier falls for a vampire,

710
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.400
though in order to be with her, he must take on her creator,

711
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:30.239
who is protected by an army of
monsters in the Hong Kong underworld.

712
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:37.079
All right, I'm in shut up
and take my money. Right? When

713
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.280
is this coming out? We have
got to watch this? Uh? You

714
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:42.480
and I You and I got to
be there on opening night for this.

715
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:46.760
Oh that sounds awesome. Heck yeah
yeah you uh you know you talked earlier

716
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:52.119
Charley's there on you know you mentioned
that she had revealed that the sequels being

717
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:57.719
set up to Atomic Blonde with Netflix. He's he's gotta be the obvious choice,

718
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:02.519
right if if he's not directing it, he's got to be a consultant.

719
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.280
He's got to he's got to have
a heavy hand in it. And

720
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:13.559
I don't think given what we saw
to this one, I don't think she'll

721
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:16.400
I can even see her saying I'm
not doing it without it. I would

722
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:20.840
hope that she says something like that
to that effect. Uh. And you

723
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:24.960
know, he's and he's he's only
gonna he's only getting bigger with his popularity

724
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:30.960
and his his talent to close out
his filmography. Obviously, A fall Guy

725
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:36.880
is in theaters now and it is
fantastic. I strongly recommend seeing it on

726
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:39.719
the biggest, loudest screen you can
find. It is it's hilarious, it's

727
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:45.360
it's fun, tons of action,
and who better to direct a film about

728
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:47.760
a stuntman than one of the one
of the greatest stunt men we've had in

729
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:54.000
a long time. So very good
point. Yeah, as far as Atomic

730
00:54:54.079 --> 00:55:00.000
Blond goes, I definitely recommend this
one. If anything, it's a highly

731
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:05.000
visualized action film that rewards us with
what I feel as Charlie's the best performance,

732
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:08.559
and it reminds us, honestly,
to me, it reminds us how

733
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:13.280
much we desperately need more female action
heroes. What what? What do you

734
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:17.000
think? Definitely need more female action
heroes. I'm all here for it.

735
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.639
This was a sleeper for me,
I'll admit, but I really really enjoyed

736
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:30.639
it and it's it's it's a really
good movie. I can't. I really

737
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:35.840
enjoyed this one. Yeah, and
it shows us uh you know Furiosa Lorraine

738
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.599
Broughton. I would I would happily
watch another few, you know. I

739
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:43.000
know we got the you know,
Furiosa movie coming out with Anna Taylor Joy

740
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:45.719
mm hmm. But I would love
if if they could find a way to

741
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.679
jump back and uh give us more
Charlene or jump forward in the story,

742
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:52.199
I'd be I'd be up for that
too. Uh. They they've teased her

743
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:54.679
in their Marvel universe, so I'd
love to see what she's gonna do.

744
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:58.760
If they're gonna utilize her in the
Marvel universe, I hope they don't waste

745
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:02.360
her. That was the that multiverse
of Madness endings. Yes, come on,

746
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.679
we want more Shirleys there on obviously, you know. And as far

747
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:09.719
as Leech goes, you talked about
him like what we want to see out

748
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:15.960
of him? Give him blade?
Oh man? Who? Because that one's

749
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.039
still have they figured out who's directing
it. I know people can think it's

750
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:24.079
I think it's still in purgatory.
But give him Blade. He needs to

751
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:29.880
do Blade because I mentioned his stunt
work. He was a something in on

752
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:35.079
the Wesley Snipes Blade really, so
he's he knows the material. Let's let's

753
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:37.559
get Let's get David Leach for that
one. I like where you're going with

754
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:43.159
that, John absolutely. I Tally
Blond. Unfortunately it's not streaming anywhere,

755
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.480
but you can rent it for three
ninety nine pretty much on any you know

756
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:51.199
Prime, you know, google all
of them. Apple, I for once

757
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:55.079
suggest the gorgeous four K Blu ray. It is packed with behind the scenes

758
00:56:55.119 --> 00:57:00.679
features, it's got deleted scenes,
it's got a killer audio commentary from David

759
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:07.480
Leach and his longtime editor, Elizabeth
Ronald's daughter. It's just and they're just

760
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:12.199
having fun. You could tell.
The funny thing is and they mentioned this

761
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:16.760
in their their audio commentary. They
were specifically told do not sing along with

762
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:22.480
the songs when you're doing your audio
commentary. And this poor woman, Elizabeth,

763
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:23.639
she's like, I really want to
seen, but I know where you're

764
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:28.639
told not to. But that's hard
not to sing along. That would be

765
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:30.960
my curse. If we're blessed to
do an audio commentary, I would be

766
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:34.960
humming along with song. Do you
have a lung? Yeah? I don't

767
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.360
know. I well listen. I'm
glad. I'm glad you're a fan of

768
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:39.280
this movie. I feel I felt
like you would be, and that's that's

769
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:42.480
why I was excited to have you. Have you joined me with it was

770
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.760
very cool and I'm really glad you
recommended it to me. Absolutely, listeners,

771
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:49.840
what do you think of Atomic Blonde? You can let us know on

772
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:54.280
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773
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774
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775
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.719
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776
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:15.159
read your response on the show and
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777
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:21.199
I say may, but I just
sent like six boxes out earlier today,

778
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:27.400
So yeah, it's all coming.
I promise join us tomorrow for our Star

779
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:31.800
Trek themed series Phasers Set to stun. Wayne, Dave, and Scott are

780
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:38.480
continuing their recap of Discovery's final season
on Friday, our limited series nineteen ninety

781
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:44.800
six returns with another guest from the
docu based seventy seven podcast. Robert Burnett

782
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:49.440
and I are going to talk about
the fun and nostalgia that the small wave

783
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:54.000
of Pulp era heroes provided with our
conversation about Billy Zane in The Phantom,

784
00:58:57.119 --> 00:58:59.960
John, real quick, are you? We're you a fan of the fan

785
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:04.880
them? Phantom was a really it
was. I remember really enjoying that because

786
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:07.199
I knew nothing about the character and
it's just it's like this, it's just

787
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:10.960
a fun movie. It is it
is. Yeah, check check that one

788
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:15.320
out, John, I think,
I think Robert will will do you and

789
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:20.599
the others at docum Base seventy seven
pretty proud. And next time on a

790
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:24.360
film buy Andy, Tom and I
will talk about one of John Wu's greatest

791
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:30.239
films, Hard Boiled, which certainly
isn't an underrated film, but we're talking

792
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:37.000
about it because it's being brought to
you by our Patreon producer James Buckley.

793
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:40.679
That's right. When you subscribe to
our Patreon at the top tier, you

794
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:45.639
have the opportunity to select the episode
of your choice. Basically, you're you're

795
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:49.960
the boss. You're putting us to
work. So John, I want to

796
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:54.400
thank you for joining me today before
it yeah, before we go. Any

797
00:59:54.440 --> 01:00:02.360
appearances coming up. Nothing on the
books for the remainder of May. June.

798
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:07.800
I'm taking I'm taking off. It's
my birthday, my wife's birthday,

799
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.639
our wedding anniversary, just vacation.
There's just way too much going on in

800
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:15.400
June. July. Should be back
out here right now. We're looking at

801
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:20.519
jim City Comic Con. Beyond July. Some other highlights will include Horrorhound.

802
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:24.519
Just got word that I'll be back
at September's Horrorhound, so I'm really really

803
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:30.360
excited for that, and Cincinnati Comic
Expo and a new show for me,

804
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:34.639
Horror at the Ohio in Madison,
Indiana. It's a horror film festival.

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Guys inviting me to come along.
I believe the Sleepaway Camp is going to

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be probably represented there inten tent,
so yeah, could be could be kind

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of fun. Speaking of fun,
Uh, what was it last month at

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Horrorhound. It was so awesome to
see you there. Yeah, you looked

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I mean you were busy too,
Like we kept trying like all three day,

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we were there all three days.
Every time we try to start up

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and uh and touch base with you. You just you had a lot of

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people, you know. So yeah, I was so I was so blessed

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to have you know, have everybody
that stopped by stopped whether you bought something

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or not. You don't know how
much that means to a guy like me.

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You just don't know. Yeah.
And did it? Am I wrong?

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Or did I see you? Uh? It looked like you were having

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a pretty good conversation with the EDWARDO. Sanchez and the the cast of the

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blair Witch Project. That was so
awesome. I got to meet them.

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I did a Scooby Doo blair Witch
mashup and word got out to them and

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they basically said, come on over, let's let's sign something for you.

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And Edward Sanchez was telling me that
one wall in their house is nothing but

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fan art, and he said that
it was definitely going on the wall.

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So I again so humbled. For
a guy like me with really no book

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or title of his own right now, to get that little bit of recognition,

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It's just so awesome and so humbling. John. Where can the listeners

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find you and your stunning work on
social media? Social media right now?

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The easiest way to find me is
Facebook at jw Art Studios, The Art

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of John Wright. All right,
i'll tell you what. I'll put that

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in the show notes so people can
link to your stuff and check it out.

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Listeners, please check out the Art
of John Wright. And as always,

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