Drawn Into Lower Decks: recapping Old Friends, New Planets

0:03 Mariner Boindler. Starfleet is better with you in it. I know, way man, I had your bad drawn. Yeah, I thought you were like a boring worker drone, and you are. It's a sort of unfair. Hello everyone, Welcome back to Drawn Into Lower Decks, a limited series from a film by a podcast that focuses on the animated comedy Star Trek Lower Decks. Each week, we've been getting you ready for the newest episode of Star Trek Lower Decks with an animated discussion about the latest mission of the USS Soritos. So read alert listeners. Spoilers are ahead. If you haven't seen the latest episode, please go watch it before you hear what we have to say.

0:48 As always, I'm Scott Hoffmann, I'm Data Burns, and I'm Wayne White. All right, So we are at the end of the season. I'm a little sad about it, but it'd be so excited to talk about a great ending. Dave, you want to start us out with a recap of old friends, new planets, I'll be more than happy to do that, all right. Mariner faces her past and finally realizes she needs to stop self sabotaging. We see Boimler in a chair we thought we would never see him. Nick Locarno may or may not look like Tom Parris, and we finally learned what happened to all those disappearing crews and ships. Captain Freeman and the crew of the Soritos are forced into disobeying a direct order when they are pulled into the fight of their lives and more in this epic season finale.

1:36 Yes, wait, and I'm going to toss it to you first. What were your thoughts on this season finale? I thought it was the best season finale that they've had so far. I thought it was It was incredibly epic. That's the best word to describe it. The battle was phenomenal. Character development, especially Marner was perfect. That is where I mean, that's where she should be at this point in her storyline. You know, we've been building up to this from all season actually all the way back to the first episode, and it's it's a great ending for this this chapter of that character. And to to move on to the new chapter, the New Mariner, which I can't wait to see. It's it should be very interesting. Yea.

2:19 I love the episode, that's all I say. I just loved it. Yeah, So this this had a very good balance. You know, you still got that good comedy that we always get from lower decks, but you also get those epic Star Trek movie feeling in some of the scenes. Oh definitely here you know, even and I'll talk about lotta later about one of my favorite moments. But the score in this was fantastic. Yes, So with the combination of all of that, I agree with Wayne on this. This was like the best season finale that they have done. And I can't wait to see where we're going to go in the future with this show.

3:00 And there better be a future for this show because it deserves it and it has earned it. In my opinion. Oh yeah, I absolutely agree with with all that. I think it was a perfect ending of the season. I think it's a it's a great apex to the the arc for a lot of these characters, and it's a great time to you know, if you haven't necessarily seen all the previous seasons, it's a it's a great starting point to kind of go back and see, way to your point, how much Mariner has grown, how much relationships have changed, and even Captain Freeman's bark, Oh, he goes to a great place here seeing Boimler in that chair, He's a completely different person. It was fantastic with his Captain's voice exactly. Yeah, it wasn't just marn Or. Really, they've all grown and we saw it in this episode. There there wasn't a single character that didn't have the limelight, the center, well, the center seat in this episode from uh you know, Captain Freeman to tend to to Marner and Boemler that they all got their time in the light and show exactly how far they'd come. And it was well balanced. You know, we got that in Strange New Worlds where you have all these characters just being shoved into the episode, but it never feels like it. You get that really good balance of all these characters. And they did the same thing here. You're right, Yeah, even with all of Nova Fleet to have to give kind of a mini showcase like, there were a lot of characters to work in here, and they just did a great job. Again, great writing by Mike McMahon

4:33 and May Darman, great direction by Bob Suarez. It was so epic and cinematic, but it had it was I think balance is a great word you use to describe this one. It was just fantastic from cover to cover. Yep, let's talk about the favorite moments in here. I know that for me, the first one I'll mention is seeing Cito Jackson and uh Wesley Crusher and Josh Albert. I feel like it was missing Jeane hajar mm from Nova Squadron. That seemed a little odd that she was there. No, she was there. She was there with no lines, with no lines in the opening shot, and someone else had to point this out to me too.

5:23 I missed it as well. In the opening shot of Starfleet Academy, not only do we see boothby, but we see her walking down the path. It's very fairly her. Yeah, good, yeah, okay, it was fantastic and he's like, oh my gosh, oh yeah in there. Yeah. It made me want to go chase down the booth by Ray Walston episodes. I love the fact that he was in there too, and the fact that they got Shannon phil back to do some voice work for this. Oh yeah, she hasn't done anything in like twenty five years. I was really impressive they got her back. Yeah. When what were some of your other favorite moments? I just I thought the journey, the story of Nick Locarno and and what he's been through very interesting and perfectly done for that character.

6:11 You know, he he's a character has been disgraced, thrown out of Starfleet Academy. He's never accepted the blame for the I can't think of the other characters his death and the problems that happened at the Academy. He never took responsibility for it. And now here he is again his his ego. He's talking others into following him, just like he did back then to the Starfleet Academy. He hasn't changed, except for Marty. He was not able to talk her through it. She sees right through him. You know, this is the opposite of his other character, Tom Parris, you know, who had a very similar background. Was was you know, was involved in an accident and responsible who but he turned himself in and turned himself around on Voyager car has Carno has never taken responsibility. It's a completely different direction for a character that's basically played by the same actor. And and I like that.

7:09 I liked the conclusion he was he's the bad guy of lower Decks. I'm going to say it, he's he's the the con of lower Decks because that's definitely what they were going for in this episode. Yeah. Yeah, there's quite a few scenes in this episode that absolutely love. But the one that really stands out to me is Boimler in the Captain's chair. It was and then not just that he's in the captain chair, it's the scene you know, when he orders the full impulse impulse and then you know, you know, give it everything we've got. And then right then, you know I mentioned earlier, when that score kicks in, I mean, he goes into overdrive right there, like you're watching a Star Trek movie, and you know that the ship gets pulled in, you know, the Orion ship gets pulled in behind him and all that. Just that whole sequence right there was just incredibly well done. The whole episode was, Yeah, but just right there, I honestly thought I was watching a motion picture. I felt like, now, the whole series it feels like Star Trek. Don't get me wrong, but right then and there, when you had that amazing score, you had all that action that was going on on screen, it felt like true Star Trek right there, in my opinion, Yeah, yeah, especially you get the the entire lower Decks crew behind Boemler, you're getting kind of a sneak peak of those kind of things. There was a little bit of I felt like it was a little bit of intrigue and mystery, not knowing if Captain Freeman and the rest were on the warship where they were up until the last minute when they were flying into the captain's yacht. Yeah, that was just great having that's fantastic Captain yot exactly, and we got to the crew

8:48 of the Critos. We got to see them work perfectly together as a proper crew, you know that just like the Enterprise, this is these are people who who when they come together on this mission, on any mission, they work together perfectly. And that was a great example. I loved the shot of the ship running into the into the field and then the captain's yacht come up. I agree with you, David, that was so exciting. Yeah, it was just fantastic. So a related note to that, I was a little shocked that the worship was destroyed because knowing Tendy's bark and Tendy's story in this, I was like, well, they're never going to get their security depositive back now, Like they can't return that there's no way. But the the Orion scenes with Tendy were fantastic. First of all, we get, you know, some great authority from Tendy where she's like, Captain, I'm sorry, but that's not gonna work. Let me talk and makes a stand, you know, kind of gambles the ship but also kind of you know, puts herself out there to to save the ship. But the the use of doctor Miglimo, Yeah, as the part of my combat. Oh god, Fluff, you're down, and he's like, oh, bless you dear, he's being polite. I was just like, that was a fantastic I feel like he won technically even though he got but oh yeah yeah.

10:15 And then seeing the her ending, you know, we can talk about this later, but you know, she's it seems like she's leaving, but that look of resolve on her face when she turns around, there's that great lighting effect and she says, you've got this and you know, great determination. I would love to see what happens between Orian and the Federation, what she does with it. I know that she's eventually going to come back, but I feel like she's going to take great strides with the Orions, especially with what we heard in Strange New Worlds where they were like, there are Ryan scientists. Excuse me, there, she'll be standing up for that. So yeah, very much looking forward to the continuation of that arc. But I think I think the writers of this series realized what Strange New World was going to. Nothing they did or didn't, I don't know, but it just seems like we've got a lot of growth this year out of our characters in Lower Decks, just like we got in Strange New Worlds. You know, we saw so much growth with all of those characters, every one of them, and it feels like Lower Decks picked up the mantle when it came to that, you know, because this season is the best growth I have seen of these characters by far. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

11:28 And I can't wait to see what's coming. I really can't. Yeah, And they did so many great setups. It doesn't feel like anything's necessarily left as a cliffhanger. Everything got tied up with about It'd be interesting to see, you know, what happens to those ships when they go back to theirs, Like, so, how about that mutiny, because I'm sure the Rodmulins are always a very forgiving people. Of course there are. Yeah, no, it's just a great wrap to it. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what. Let's take a quick break and when we're coming back, we'll talk about some of the deep cuts we saw, all right, So we always get a chance to talk about the easter eggs and the references they put into here. Some great work done by the crew that kind of finds places to insert certain things. And you know, obviously this is a big one.

12:18 I love the fact that it started with one when you get and now the conclusion like that typical opening line for next generation Cliffhangers, Wayne, what were some others that stood out to you? Well, this episode didn't have a lot of callbacks to other series because it was calling back itself and the storylines from much of this season and the seasons before. But the biggest one, obviously is the opening flashback at Starfleet Academy. We had three returning actors. We had Robert Duncan McNeill back as Nickolcna. We had Sharon phil A Seedo Jackson, and also we had Will Wheaton doing his best to sound like Wester to Crusher twenty five years ago, you know, and then we you know, we've got the Starfleet Academy was perfectly animated exactly the way we remembered back in the Next Generation. We had the little booth bee, we had uh the Golden gate bridge in the background. Every time we seen the every time they changed shots, that background that bridge had to be there in the background. And we got a few, you know, a few mentions there too from other things. The Preservers was mentioned from the original series Paradise Sah Syndrome, and the Zendi from Enterprise season three, the whole season was mentioned.

13:33 And and also in this flashback is the first appearance of Joshua Albert. We never actually got to see him in the Next Generation episode First Duty. All they did was talk about because he was already dead because he died in the the Yegger loop that went wrong. So this is is actual first appearance, although he didn't have any lines, but that that was that was the big one. And then of course the battle in the Nebula that was clearly an homage to Star Trek, to the Rapacan. I mean, the Genesis device was there, that that bright glowing light when it was activated, was there, just like from the movie. The Genesis explosion was exactly like it was in the film. And then that music was phenomenal and really evoked James Horner's score for Star Trek two. And then you also mentioned early earlier mentioned the Captain's yacht. That's only the second time we've ever seen the Captain's yacht on screen. The only the time we've ever seen it was on Star Trek Insurrection, although it's always been there ever since, all the way back when Probert designed the Galaxy Class Enterprise. It was always there on the back on the bottom of the end of the enterprise. If you bought one of the models back then in the late eighties early nineties, it actually detached from the model. We never saw it on screen until Insurrection, and now we've seen the Soritus's Captain's yacht. Yeah. And speaking of start Insurrection, the uh the steam Runner Class USS Psaro had one of those manual joysticks just like uh

15:07 committed Riker used. Yeah, I forgot about that. The steam Runner Class itself first appeared in Star Trek First Contact and the the U S. S. Pasaro was named after a digital artist, Fabio Pissaro. He was one of the digital artists and the creator that ship back in First Contact, worked in some other Star Trek and but he died last year and this was a nice tribute to him. And then we got the line Lacanner looks like Tom Parris, you know, I don't see it at change. I love how Boiler was leaning into it like squinting and like I'm not going to see it.

15:48 I really did it. I'm glad that they addressed it, and I love the way they did it. That was that was perfect way of doing that. Yeah. I thought what was really funny was Locarno's line to Mariner when they're walking on the hallway. He's like, no carpet, wood paneling in here. That's right, everything's very clean. What is that? Everything else stick out for you? No, just just that that was Wayne got them all. I thought I had both be but he beat me to that one as well. Wayne's got them all. He's he's like the walking encyclopedia when he comes to start truck, which I highly highly respect Wayne, by the way, thank you. But we can't forget about the Mark Twain stuff. We thought that use. I mean it seemed odd like they're taking the time to do all that staging and stuff like that. They have time to do that? Are they that twining? It was also come on, Yeah, for me, it's the the Farrangi Genesis device that was perfect cover to cover, like the fact that it had a voice like a Frangie voice in it and having to pay two bars of latinum to shut it down. Perfect.

16:56 I'm trying to thinking maybe there's a Frangi commercial that sounded like McCoy's speech from Rathacon. You know, as a matter of cosmic history, it's always been easier to destroy than to create. Not anymore. Now we can do it both at the same time. According to Earth, is created in six days. Now watch out, here comes Genesis. We'll do it for you in six minutes. And that's how long the countdown was, wasn't it? Yeah? It was yeah. Yeah, And now we have Planet Lacarno. Yeah, for better or worse. Yeah, I don't think anybody's gonna looking for him. But they give him a good set enough. They didn't. They didn't. So was there anything with when they were creating Tom Parris's character for Voyager. Was he supposed to be Nick Lacano or were they just very very similar? I think it recasted that right. It's just it was a new character. Yeah, I don't think they ever intended it to be Lacano, but they were very careful to separate that character from Tom Parris though in the show. Yeah, very interesting, I know it is all right, Well, I know we're probably going to get a spectrum of uh answers to this one, because there certain certainly were a lot of pipworthy moments. Dave, I'm going to start with you who stood out as the most pipworthy for this one? So I know the last time I picked her, but I'm going to pick her again, and it's a Mariner. And the reason why I pick her again is clearly, you know, this is her story arc and we get to see her come you know, a long way. But what I found very interesting about her was, you know, she's a prisoner

18:27 of the Carno. She escapes him, and she's getting shot up at all the people you know, who are working with him, and in the very end, you know, he aims the gun at herd you know, to turn over the Genesis device and he is literally shooting her as she gets beamed aboard the Captain's jhat by Freeman. Yet she still cares about Lacrno right away. You know, she says, we've got to save him, and she tries to talk him down and tries to get him for them to beam him over, but he raises the shields again and there's nothing they can do about it, and he just, you know, obviously explodes with the device. I think that just adds so much to her character, more than we've already gotten. Yeah. Oh, it just shows who she is and how much she cares, all that she's been through, all that Lecarno has done to her and to everybody, she still has the heart just to say we need to save him. Wow. I thought that was the most impressive moment in the Tired episode. Well, you know, a lot of them were fantastic, but I gotta agree with David. I gotta go with Mariner. It was just a perfect ending for this version of the character. Her whole storyline has been leading to this moment. She makes the decision to fight against the Connor, which I love that scene when she she turns when they're on screen, she turns and this guy's crazy and takes off of the Genesis device.

19:48 That was such such a defining, such a moment that we I really wasn't expecting. I mean, you really, she could have went either way. I mean, yep, but that was oh really the only way, the best way for her character to go. She may not believe in the way Starfleet does things, but she believes in the cause. And yeah, that was such a revelation, you know, with everything that's been going on with this season, that was just just a perfect way of bringing her character forward. I agree that Radio three for three because I totally agree. There was part of me that was on the fence, Like my god, there's so many, so many people that stand out in this episode and do amazing thing.

20:33 I mean, we see growth with ta Lynn, we see tend Rutherford, everybody, well, Migle Mill he even has his own moment. But yeah, Mariner, I mean, she pilots a starship single handedly. The moment before she steals the Genesis device, there's a little bit of tension where you're like, will she or won't she? You know, she could lean into it and kind of act, but no, she went right into it and yeah, declared this guy sucks. The kind of soft focus when she leads into it. Also the fact that she convinces other members of no affleet to defect or you know, reasons why they wouldn't. And she's not being manipulative, she's not trying to use them. She's just saying, I mean, come on, think about this a little bit, you know, for for each of them, like the fra ANGI like, where's the profit in this? And I know we got a couple of new rules of acquisition in this one. I didn't write down what they were, but that was kind of nice to see. And yeah, that that growth in that leadership we're seeing, you know, going back to the previous episode where she and Mah are seeing everybody fighting, they have a chance to jump out and you know, join in the fray and she decides to you know, step out and say whoa time out? Kind of a similar approach here. Right, I'm going to talk through it. I'm going to reason through it, because that's Starfleet as much as it is the action. It's trying to find a better

22:04 way, which is just beautiful and it's a lot of growth for her character. You can see the leader that she's going to be in the future emerging here. But at the same time, she's not losing herself, right, She's saying, all right, let's get drags, you know, still being who she wants to be, which is totally cool, but not as self destructive. And I think it would be fascinating to see where that goes next season and the dynamics of that. So yeah, she absolutely earned a pitp with this one. For all that she has been through. We are literally watching a captain being born. Yes, yeah, I agree, that's exactly what we're seeing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, with her mom on board, Like there's that's got to be a great moment for Captain Freeman too, like to see her become her own captain, like, don't do things the way that I did it or the way that anybody else does it. The fact that she's going to be more cognizant of people like Cido Jackson and stand up for them and be willing to say, like, you know, some of the star Fleet stuff is bs, there's got to be a better way.

23:15 I think it's an interesting thing that we've seen in other series, like Picard season three, when they were kind of questioning the whole Dominion war and the changeling virus that they put in there. I think it's good to challenge that, not necessarily in a way that makes everything implode. But just to say, let's think of a better way, because that's who we are and Marner's storyline, you know, that's how many great captains become. Look at Picard, remember the episode where we saw his youth when he was a brand new officer. He was brash, he was challenged authority. Then he got himself stabbed and that was the moment when he realized that, you know, he had to turned his life around. We're seeing very simi things right here with Mariner. Yeah, it's it's the whole maturity thing. Yeah, you know, we're we're all we're all young and dumb at once. You know, we all can admit that. And you know you're seeing her maturing in front of her eyes, and you're right, you know, we're seeing those moments that are going to define her. So when she becomes a captain, and she obviously will become a captain, she will be able to use those examples to talk to somebody and help somebody who's struggling themselves. And and here did you get when we saw her in the scenes at the academy, she was basically boymer, really was she? Oh yeah, so we've I mean that's quite a difference between what we've seen now and then we've got what's coming soon. It's a big change of character, and considering you know how long

24:45 it's taken. You know she you know, like with Card he was like twenty years older, so well she's like thirty six now, so it just took a little bit longer. But she's getting there and she will make a great captain. Oh yeah, that's so interesting. Yeah, yeah, same here. That is interesting. You bring up that episode when Picard was a lower decker, like a lifetime lower decker, right, and he was like, I don't want to live this life. I want to go back to where I was. So, I know, we always talk about exploring the Cerritos, and every every time we answer this question, it seems like I'm getting further from the actual Cerritos itself. But I know, for me, if I was going to be anywhere, I'd want to be on the USS Psarro with Meritor and GD for if no other reason, because we don't typically see a steamer in a class starship that often. I mean, it's a doomed ship, so I wouldn't want to say too long. It'd be interesting to explore a little bit. Dave, where would you want to be in this episode? I want to be with Boiler and the crew on the Bridge.

25:45 Oh, just experience experience that stuff for the first time, you know. I want to live and be with them when they do it. So that's where I'm at. Yeah, Wayne, how about you? So many times this season I've said I want to be on this planet and that planet, but I want with David right now. I'll be right next to you, David, right there on the Bridge. I mean that was just that was just an incredible scene. And and Boemler he made a good cap, did I mean, they looked at it and honest to God, great Bridge crew, and I want to be right there with him. There's no Boimler freak out. There was no no anything. And their their plan that that incredible scene of them throwing the the oriyon battlecruiser against the tryin our Shield, didn't that reminded me so much a Riker's plan in Star Trek, the card where he threw that that did asteroid right at that Changeling ship. That it's a great plan. Yeah, brute slinging something. Yeah, I think it'd be interesting, you know, noting the different faces we saw in his crew.

26:44 There are some new faces that I saw there that we haven't gotten that much from. There's a trill character that I'd like to see a little bit more. I didn't notice the other species. I didn't take specific note of what they were, but it would be fascinating to see, you like, here's a sampling of some of the future characters you might see coming into the whole thing. And knowing that Ti Linn is going to be, you know, a science bestie, even if Teddy isn't still going to be there, but knowing that she's still going to be around, I think she had a great arc this season. I'm graddy, I'm glad to see her still being around. So in thinking about that, Scott, where do we think they're going to go with season five? What do you think they can do now?

27:25 Because I mean they've done so much in this season. This was a very epic season with Lacarno being the main villain, and I agree with you Wayne, he definitely was the con of this whole season and stuff like that. But where do you think this is going to lead us? Because it is lower decks, but it feels like our crew, our lower Deckers have grown so much in this season. Where do you think they're going to go. Well, obviously we're going to Ryan. I think next season we're going to really explore the characters there that you know, we've got all this stuff development, now let's see where they take it. We're gonna I think we're going to see a little bit more of them actually using their rank and commanding.

28:07 I think they're they're going to be better at it. They're not new anymore. Where maybe even see them, uh, you know, command some missions. Yeah, but we're definitely going to get more growth, more exploration and uh to Lynn is now an official lower Decker. I think we're going to see a lot more of her actually see some storylines revolved around her. I think it's it's going to be a very interesting season seeing where these characters go. Scot, I think I think you might have been onto something when you said you saw some new faces there. Maybe that's their plan too. We're going to get some new faces that are going to be some of the lower Deckers that now the crew that we've known and you know love, are going to have to take them under their wings now and kind of like, you know, raise them basically in a way to help them grow like our crew group. You know, maybe you're honest something there's Scott. Yeah, I think it's likely that, you know, we're going to see a different kind of leadership from Mariner, a different kind of leadership from Boimler. We might see a different Rutherford when Tendy's not around, and there might be certain lewer Deckers that are expecting a certain thing and not necessarily seeing that. Not necessarily that's going to be a bad thing, but definitely seeing that growth.

29:26 I'd like to see them do another underlying arc with the next one. It doesn't necessarily have to replicate the whole mystery ship kind of thing. It might be something else that kind of adds some tension. I do appreciate that, you know, I've heard Mike McMahon talk about wanting to make sure that the episodes can all stand alone, which I think they very much do. There was nothing here that necessarily seemed dependent on previous episodes. Maybe with the exception of these two, but even if you just came in cold, you'd be able to understand what was going on. Yeah, I'd love to see them getting into it into that type of direction for more than one season, and we're only officially signed up for one more. But the powers that be have got to see how much this is a groundbreaking show and how much potential it has. I'd love to see some more, Brandon. Brandon said, seven seasons in a movie, Let's do it. Oh yeah, I'd love to see that. We've seen them, We've seen crew members from the Next Generation, we've seen do Space nine, we've seen Voyager, and I know they've the producers have also talked about wanting to do this. I would not be surprised if we happen to see some sort of either time travel or flashback or something to the crew of the Enterprise of the of the TV series The Original.

30:45 Oh yeah, it'd be awesome. I'll be okay with that for sure. And I'd be very okay with seeing another crossover. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. Maybe in the other direction. You know, if, like I think we mentioned that before, Strange New World's characters appear in the animated version, I would be all for that'd be great. Now, I got a question for you guys. Now that this season's over with and we got season five coming up, what do you think is going to appear in the title sequence next season. Oh oh, you know what's interesting is that the front of that scene is so packed. I hadn't thought to look at the back of that scene, but I feel like if you had a giant TV or if you're able to kind of zoom in on that, there's maybe another couple of ships we haven't seen toward the back. Could be. I don't know. Well, I think and I personally would find this hilarious. But I mean, we saw the whale probe appear in this season with Star Trek four, fourth season, well we got the fifth season. If the Face of God appears, it starts blasting lasers out of his eyes, eye all out of my chair laughing. Yeah, that would be ultimate, Wayne, Yeah, it would be fantastic. And remember Brandon even mentioned Star Trek five a little bit to it. That's right when we talked to him with the last episode, So hey, you might be on something their way. Yeah, what does God need with a starship? All right? Everybody, Well,

32:20 thanks for joining us for another episode. Listeners. We always appreciate joining us for another mission. As always, hailing frequencies are always open, so feel free to share your thoughts predictions about next season questions on social media. If you want more Trek, let us know. You can find us at a film by podcast dot com, a film by podcast at gmail dot com, on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. And guys, I think we've had a lot of fun with these new Trek series. How do we feel about keeping it rolling with more of a regular series? Are you in? Oh, I'm totally in for that. Oh, definitely cool. Well, listeners, we're setting up a regular series on a film by podcast. We're calling it Phasers Set to Stun, and we're going to talk about new Trek, the classics, the movies, everything we can fit in the turbo lift.

33:07 So look for more info coming as soon and we'll be seen you next time. We wait then, thank you so much. Oh, thank you. We'll see everybody later, David. Great bit to have you back, man, well gets great to be back. Thanks all right, see next time see you. Where did you guys watch my favorite Martian at all? Oh? Yeah, Grey Wilson, Yeah a long time ago. Oh god, I love that show. Back when it was on Nicked Night or whatever there was, Yeah, yeah, Naked Night when Nick and Night was good.

33:49 Yeah, exactly, you know, back when m TV showed music videos, Yeah, exactly,