Aug. 19, 2024

Fede Alvarez - The Girl in the Spider's Web

Fede Alvarez - The Girl in the Spider's Web
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Season 5A Film By...

In the latest episode of A Film By..., Jeff and Amber dive into the dark, action-packed world of Fede Alvarez's 2018 thriller, The Girl in the Spider's Web. They explore the film's intense atmosphere, the portrayal of the iconic character Lisbeth Salander, and how it stacks up against its predecessors. Join them as they dissect the film's strengths and shortcomings, offering their unique insights and critiques.

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Dave and I just the other day came back from

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a late night Imax showing of Alien Romulus.

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Oh you're brave Imax.

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Imax Zeno morphs on like a forty foot screen. Oh lord,

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so awesome. I have to ask you because you love

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the Alien franchise. Oh my god, yes, I did you?

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Are you seeing it this? Did you already see it

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this weekend? Or are you going to see it? No?

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I was waiting for you guys to give me a

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little spoiler free review because I've been burned before.

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Well, I don't want to spoil my spoiler free review,

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but you can go to a film by podcast dot

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com right now and read our quick spoiler free review.

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And if I could a quick shout out to one

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of our listeners, Martin Bennett. He reached out to us

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on our Facebook page We're talking Alien Romulus, and he

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had some amazing site to this, to this film, and

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I just wanted to say Martin, thank you. I enjoyed

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our conversation about Alien Romulus and I hope you're listening

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because Amber I kind of got the feeling that, like me,

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Martin also is a fan of Fed Alvarez.

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I don't trust this director one hundred percent. He's shifting

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this guy.

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You don't trust Fede Alvarez.

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I hate that Don't Breathe movie.

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Okay, so we don't get to talk about Don't Breathe today.

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That's fine, that's fine. In that case, let's talk about

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a different title. Let's talk about it. Let's I do

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want to talk about a film by Ede Alvarez, So

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let's let's talk about it. Twenty eighteen underrated cybercrime thriller

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The Girl in the Spider's Web. Hello everybody, and welcome back.

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I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm Amber Lewis, and this is a

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film by podcast Amber. Twenty eleven, David Fincher's The Girl

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with the Dragon Tattoo is released to critical acclaim, but

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fails to make it big at the box office. And

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then twenty fifteen, plans for the sequel are shut down

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and Rooney Mara and Daniel Craig are openly upset to

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learn they won't be called back to reprise the roles

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because they had fully committed to the series. Yeah, they had.

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Sun contracts and everything. Like I read the books and

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watched the original Swedish version of the movies and enjoyed both,

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so I was a little skeptical of Runey Mara as

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Elizabeth Salander. I was like, I don't know about this one,

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but was pleasantly surprised. I mean, Fincher made one hell

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of a movie, and I would I would have signed.

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Up for the sequel.

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I don't understand. I know that Sony spent a lot

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of money.

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Bomb was it, Like how much money will I need

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to make? My God?

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The problem was they I think they spent ninety million

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or more on the budget and it made It made

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a little more than half of that, And I have

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no idea why. I saw it in the theater. Thing

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was awesome, but a lot of people blame the failure

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on the overblown budget.

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But I mean, it's all right there like you can.

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It's not like you are wondering, what the hell did

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he spend this money on.

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I get that, I just I don't understand. I love it.

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I think it's one of Fincher's best movies. I don't know.

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I was so excited for like the entire trilogy. You know,

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didn't get it though, Well, you have read the original

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three books, You've watched the Swedish version of the of

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the films. You've seen the Fincher film, and today we're

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going to talk about The Girl in the Spider's Web,

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which is a story from the fourth book. Overall, for

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those that are not familiar with The Girl on the

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Spider's Web, you want to give us a little little synopsis.

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It's basically a cyber thriller that continues the story of

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Lizabeth Slander and her ultimate hacker skills, and there's you know,

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spies and chases, and it's very much more of a

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thriller than I think. The first three stories are more

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tied into more human storytelling, and this is more action

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and event driven.

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Your synopsis there is both intriguing and vague. And I

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question whether you're writing for IMDb, because I just looked

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at IMDb's uh and IMDb says computer hacker Elizabeth Salander

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and journalist Mikhail Blumkis find themselves caught in a web

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of spies, cyber criminals, and corrupt government officials. That's almost

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word for word. What you what? You just what you

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just said?

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Well, I think.

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It's a challenge to describe it because if you are

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going into this expecting more of and we'll just take

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the Fincher movie. But if you're expecting more of that,

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that's not what this movie is.

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It's not. Now to your point, I will say that

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Fede is definitely capturing the the visual style and the

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color palette of the Fincher movie. Like this movie a

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lot of a lot of a lot of dark at

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a lot of a lot of a lot of grays

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and blacks, whites, the occasional pop of red. I love

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the color palette to this movie because it plays to

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the characters. But even like his Fee's visual style, which

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he he has a style all his own. I love

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his shots. You know, we'll get this photography later, but

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I love his his use of the camera. But I

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also watching this, I can see where he's trying. I'm

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not I'm not gonna say he's trying to copy Fincher,

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but he's definitely trying to make it feel like it's well.

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He definitely he's making this. He's definitely wanting you to

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feel that this is in the Fincher world, right, not

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that this is a remake or a reboot. That this

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is It's just been a couple of years and here's

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where our characters are from Fincher's movie. That's that. That's

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how I look at it.

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Yeah, and we might as well just launch right into it.

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I wish that this movie was called anything Else and

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the characters were named anything Else, because it would have

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been a much better movie.

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You don't feel it, So you don't you're saying you

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don't feel like it. It feels like a Elizabeth Salander

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film that.

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Was not Lizabeth Salander.

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I don't know who that woman was. She was very

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cool and interesting, but no, it was like it was

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like a teenager version of a David Fincher movie.

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A teenager's version of a David Fincher movie.

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So, yeah, it's too shiny, it's too pretty.

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Claifoy is not that character, you know, the guy that

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played Michael bloom Twist is.

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Not that guy.

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You're just jumping right to the cast. Okay, yeah, I'm.

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Just launching right into it. Like if this were called

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anything Else, you know, and well, these characters were not

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trying to be those characters, it would have been a

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more fun.

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You know, cyber thriller.

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All right, you're you're you're calling Clairefoy out. Let's let's

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talk about her. So she's a longtime fan of the

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Steve Larsen Millennium Trilogy before she signed the studio is

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looking at Queen Amidala, Nally Portman, Black Widow, Scarlett Johansson,

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Jen Urso, Felicity Jones, and Lara Croft, the tomb Raider

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Alicia Vikander. All of those ladies are heavily considered for

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the role, and all of them either pass or it

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doesn't work out. And we get Claire Foy, who is

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actually Fede Alvarez's pop choice because he enjoyed her performance

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on The Crown, which I've never seen that series. Did

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you ever see The Crown?

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Oh my gosh, I've watched The Crown so many times.

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Who does she play on The Crown?

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She plays Queen Elizabeth.

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Oh okay, so so not not a not a bit player,

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she's Oh no, she is.

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She is all of season one and season two.

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So how how is Clairefoy on The Crown? Is she is?

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She a great, amazing okay, And I've seen her in

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some BBC things, some Masterpiece theater things.

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She's incredibly talented. It's not okay that she can't do

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the job.

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It's I think if you think about that list of

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actresses that they were considering the studio did not want

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the Elizabeth Sounder that's on the page that Ruoney Maara

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did that even that, Nomi repasted like they wanted shiny,

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pretty healthy, she did not want this edgy.

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Yeah, but is she shiny, pretty and healthy?

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Because oh, for the love, put a picture of her

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an act to a picture of Ruoney Mara and tell

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me that's the same character. Like, she's got this boring

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average Dorothy Hamil hair cut.

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Well, okay, well her hair so.

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She doesn't wear any makeup, she doesn't shave her eyebrows, like.

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Okay, so she they they purposely cut her hair all

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jagged and uneven, and that's a story. That's a character

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choice because they want you to think, read that cuts

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her hair.

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I read that and I felt like that was a

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hairstylist opinion of jagged hair, Like that's not really jagged hair.

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So you're saying, you're saying that if she's cutting her

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own hair, it's not gonna look that good. You know,

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Rooney Mara famously shit, you know, shaves her eyebrows, she

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gets real piercings, a couple, she gets inked a little bit.

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Boy not doing any of that. Her stuff in the

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movie is I mean, I don't.

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Think you have to get the real piercings.

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But I don't think so.

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But Rodney Maura got.

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The point of Lizabeth, which is her whole aesthetic is

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to make herself into a occupying and keep people away.

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It's all about putting you on your back foot and

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making you unsettled the minute you look at her, so

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that you'll stay away from her. And the only people

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to get close to her the people that she allows.

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And Clairefoyd doesn't just a.

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Cute, healthy, little chubby cheek sweet pie.

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Well okay, how about okay? So she's English.

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Hone bar is a honey badger, Like.

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Uh, I feel like we're I'm gonna ask you. I'm

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gonna ask you a question here in a minute, but

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I feel like I'm going to get the answer. I

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know the answer already, but before I ask it, let's

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talk Claifoy. She's English. She works tiresly with a linguistics

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coach to nail down that Swedish accent. I thought she

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did a great job.

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With that with the accent, it was very subtle.

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Yeah, well, I mean she doesn't need to sound like

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the chef from the Muppets.

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There's a happy meeting. I'm sorry, I can't. I can't

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tell you how well.

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I saw the original movies with Nemi Rapace and loved

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them and thought she was just amazing, and I didn't

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really want to watch the Runey Mara version, and I.

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Went for Daniel Craig, and like my mind.

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Was blown, Like Ruoney Mara is so good in that movie,

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and she's so perfect as that character that like anything

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that really isn't that.

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I'm like you and I are of a like mind

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because I went into the Fincher movie saying, Rooney Mara,

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who I just saw in the Social Network, That's.

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What I was gonna say.

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She's, well, the cute girl from the beginning, will never

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pull off this role. But I'm a fan of David Fincher,

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I'm a fan of Daniel Craig. I'm still going. And

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she blew the doors off that role.

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She's still good in that role.

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That when you get to the end and she is

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in disguise because she's still in the yeah, like she

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puts on what's probably in her own closet at home,

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like a Chanelle suit, and she's got like the perfect

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makeup and a wig and everything, and you're looking at

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her like, ew, what what happened to you? Like that's

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how good she is as Lizabeth. But when she looks

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quote unquote normal, it's off putting.

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One other thing, I gotta I want to ask your

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your thoughts here. Alvarez suggested that, you know, he's talking

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to Clairefoy about the role, and he suggests that she

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watched al Pacino and Marlon Brando films to prepare for

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the role. What's going on there?

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because why would you tell a woman who's playing a

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strong female character to watch a man?

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Is he? Why isn't he telling her to watch Barbara Stanwick?

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And you know jennie'suer.

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Is his advice absurd? Or is it genius? Though? Because

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like I don't know, because I love that day Alvares

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so well and.

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Misha hell to do either of those two men have

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to do with this movie or this character, Like, I

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just I don't get that direction.

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Well, I'll tell you what they have to do with it.

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They have absolutely nothing to do with it. I thought

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that was a strange, a strange piece of advice.

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I mean, I'm sorry I'm researching Germo del Toro for.

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The Docking Day podcast, and he was giving his actors

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like movies to watch that fit with the you know,

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it made sense, like we're making a haunted house movie.

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Watch the Changeling, you know, like that makes sense. But this,

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I don't know where he was going. I don't know

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what he what he wanted.

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I think you've made it clear your your thoughts on

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Clairefoy's performance.

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But here let me just say this though, Okay, this

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is what I'm saying. If she's not trying to be

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e Lizabeth's, she's great in this movie.

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Well, unfortunately Isabeth, though she's.

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Not Queen Elizabeth the second.

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You know, she's this really interesting character that could do

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all these things, and you know, just don't call her

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that because that's not who she is. So I don't

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want to say it's a bad movie or she's bad

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in it, because that's not true.

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Listeners later will paraphrase Amber Lewis speaking about Clairefoy as

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she's great, except that she isn't great, all right.

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So I think our listeners get me.

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Claire Clairefoy aside. Yes, if you're if you're choosing one

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woman to play the role of Elizabeth Salander. Are you

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are you going? Are you going to the original with

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a new memorpace? Or are you are you calling up

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Rooney mar Who who is your definitive Elizabeth Salander? At

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this point, I.

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Think for this story, which is very different than the

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first three stories, I think Repace would have been better

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unless you got like the other two.

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Well, I'm just saying, like overall, who who embodies Elizabeth Sounder?

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Hard?

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You get one pick?

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No mirror pace?

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Okay, you're going, you're going with You're going with the

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o G. I respect that. I absolutely respect that. Let's

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move on. I did want to spend a lot of

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time talking about Claire Foyd because the movie is Elizabeth's story.

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It's all about her characters, all these all these books

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are Let's talk about the guy taking over the Mikhil

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Blomkus role from Daniel Craig. His name is Savier good Nutson,

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Swedish actor. I'll go ahead and say that he's he's

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more or less a placeholder. Honestly, I didn't. I didn't

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really buy into his character. And maybe that's because he's

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he's in Daniel Craig's shadow. I don't know, but I

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just I don't know. He was like an excessery more.

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Than Yeah, I totally agree. He's like a poor man's

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Dan Stevens from Downton Abbey.

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Yeah, Like I was like, is that, No, it's not him.

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This guy is not good.

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But but more and more in the books, Yeah, Michael

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Bloomquist is kind of there to kind of help her

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out and sneaker things and give her information, like he's

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not as big a player as he was in the

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first book.

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Okay, So that so by so the character in this movie.

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That's my design then, because I feel like the girl

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in the Dragon Tattoo story, I feel like Mikail is

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our our main character, and Elizabeth is kind of like

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a supporting player that's helping him all along. And I

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don't know how I feel about that, because I feel

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like it's it should be the other way around. I

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feel like it should be her movie, and this time

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I do feel like it's it's it's Lizabeth movie, it's

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her story. So I do I'm hoping that you at

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least appreciate this film for that, because it should be her,

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her story, and she should be the main character. And

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so I was kind of happy to see Michael take

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a back seat here.

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Honestly, yeah, he It definitely fits with the rest of

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the trilogy as it was.

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Okay, a couple other people I want to talk about.

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This comes out in twenty eighteen, and I'm pretty sure

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this is my first look at the amazing, the incredibly

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talented Lakeith Stanfield.

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Oh my gosh.

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I was so happy when he came on screen.

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And I'll be fair, I went in with high expectations

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when I saw this at the theater back in twenty eighteen,

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and I'm a little let down as it's opening because

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it's just not the David Fincher movie. But everything Lakeith

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Stanfield is doing I'm a fan of, and I'm like,

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I hope this guy's going places and will come to

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find out he obviously does. He's big star now. He's

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done some amazing work. I've spoken about him multiple times

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on this show. But his role here as NSA agent

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ed need him the perfect amount of Lakeith, I think, yes.

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And a really great character, and I love the way he.

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And Elizabeth interact and his ability and like he's just

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super spy awesome.

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Yeah, I feel like if the girl with the dragon

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tattoo was a team up between Lizabeth and Michel. This time,

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I feel like the team up is need him and Elizabeth,

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and Michel's just there for show because he's he steals

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the scenes in all the everything he's doing. I love

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the air Getaway, which I kind of tell me that

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didn't remind you just a little bit of the Matrix.

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When Morpheus is getting Neo out of the office, He's

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he's on the cell phone and she's like opening doors

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and hacking into the airport security to get him where

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she'd eased him. There definitely had to be a little

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bit of that that DNA there when they were writing

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this one. But like, Keith's fantastic in this I would

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say maybe even one of the better reasons to watch

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this film.

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Yes, absolutely, his performance is so much fun.

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You're not gonna find a lot of comedy in this film, uh,

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for given reasons. But we got a great comedian playing

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Franz Boulder talking. I'm talking about Stephen Merchant. Yes, very

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weird to see him in this role because Steven, he's

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so goofy and so fun in everything he does, and

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all we had to do was give him a scruffy

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beard and now he's this dramatic, tense actor who's on

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the run.

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Well, and you're always so concerned in one of these

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movies because almost to a man, every male character is

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just toxic and dangerous and disgusting.

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So he came on and I was like, oh no,

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I can't do this.

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He's basically he's like an updated version of Falcon from wargames.

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He creates this incredibly dangerous technology, this computer software that

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can control nuclear weapons. He's got a little boy who

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he's trying to look out for and protect, and then

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does the right thing. He's like, Hey, this is I've

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created something that can't be uncreated. So I better, I

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better find a way to get rid of it. And

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who better to get rid of something for you in

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the cyber world than Elizabeth Salander. So you know, he

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calls her up. Let's you know, I'll help you know,

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steal this thing. I'll pay you to steal it and

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then get rid of it. And then we're off to

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the races with you know, the NSA and the Swedish

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government and you know everyone, everyone's after this. You under yeah,

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the spiders, this network of this cable of assassins and evildoers.

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You went to the eighties with Falcon I went to

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Rogue One and I thought of Galen her. So they like,

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I made this thing and now they're gonna blow up planet.

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A lot of a lot of Rogue one chat in

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this this, uh, this Swedish cyber crime thriller. Didn't I didn't.

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I didn't see that coming.

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Uh.

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I'll tell you who else I didn't see coming. I've

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never seen her in anything. Well, I take that back.

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I've seen her in one thing, but you know, it's

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kind of like a blink and you miss it moment

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in that movie. But Sylvia Hoax is playing Camilla Salander,

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who is the fraternal twin to Elizabeth. This woman is

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positively beautiful and frightening at the same time. And I

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don't know how she's pulling that off.

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Yes, she was very intense and very unexpected because if

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you know the story, like we all thought.

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She was dead. Yeah, we get that little background, you know,

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that little prequel you know to at in the beginning

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there you know, see him playing chess. We assume that

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she's dead. But lo and behold, she grew up to

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be just as evil as their dad and and psychotic,

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and she's running this gang this, Uh you know these spiders.

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He's assassins who will stop at nothing for you know,

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control over nuclear weapons. I said, you know, like I said,

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blink and you miss it. Like she's in Blade Runner

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twenty forty nine playing the character love but I just

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don't remember, like she didn't make it impression on me.

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I haven't seen it so well.

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She certainly makes an impression here. She is striking like

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I'll tell you right now, and we you know, we've

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been talking about other other movies, that moment on the

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bridge when they see each other as adults, and she's

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in that. I mean she is just like a siren

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because she's in that. She's in all red, that bright

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red outfit. That gave me a real Winter Soldier vibe,

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Like when when the first time Capsi's Bucky is alive

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after all these years.

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Yes, And I think the best scene that Clairefoy has

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in the whole movie is they're scene together.

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At the end.

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Okay, well, uh, you know, you are a lot of

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premonitions here. You're reading my mind. You're you're you're jumping ahead.

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I'm sorry you are, No, you're you're clearly your.

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Scenes together are amazing and that scene in particular is

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just overpowering.

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Now you are you are clearly uh maneuvering through the

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spider's web pretty good today, I would I would say

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that's the pivotal scene. Right, Let's just talk about the

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pivotal moment. It's the best scene. It's the it's the

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one that's the most impactful. I think their moment at

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the end, face to face, and it's a moment where

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I feel like you have to you have to empathize

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for the villain. Am I wrong?

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No, No, not at all.

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But I do love that they I love that they

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give clarify that line. You know you didn't come with me,

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you didn't follow me.

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Yeah, you understand. I had to leave, you know, Like,

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but I was out.

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I saved myself.

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I couldn't, you know, force you to save yourself and

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I can't be responsible for you.

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Like that's heartbreaking, it is, but it's also the the

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rebuttal is justice heartbreaking because she's like, aren't you Lizabeth Salander,

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the savior of of of.

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Of women and the protector of women against evil men?

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You've saved all these women and you never you never

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thought to come back and save me. And I thought, Wow,

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that's I mean, she's got a point.

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Mm hmmm.

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Right, So it's kind of like, you know, you always

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hear the am I my brother's keeper? But is that

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not this? Is that not also true for am I?

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Am I my sister's keeper? You know, I stick together? Right?

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To be fair, Elizabeth did try to kill their father,

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and she like got eighty percent of them, so.

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She would not do anything.

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A couple other seeds, I we kind of we're we're

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doing a Tarantino thing here, We're chopping and cutting, we're

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you know, we did our pivotal moment. But there are

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a couple other scenes I want to talk about. No,

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we're no, we're This is fluid man, This is this

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is where where in the web. Where in the web.

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Sometimes you get stuck in a certain spot, and sometimes

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you're able to get yourself free.

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So turn the hourglass over.

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Yeah, I'll say this, and I think you kind of

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you kind of you know, you alluded to this earlier.

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This is more of a action paced film rather than

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a spy computer hacking type of tense drama like we

470
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used to. But I absolutely love when she takes that

471
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:28.519
dacati and jumps it off the bridge onto the frozen

472
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:34.599
and it's cracking under her bike as she's driving with

473
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:40.359
the bikes so fast that the ice can't crack fast enough. Yes, stress, Yeah,

474
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:41.640
that scene is so awesome.

475
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.799
All the action scenes, Like, I really like the fight scenes, and.

476
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:49.839
You know that's usually not the high point for me,

477
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.319
but I thought they were really well done in this.

478
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:57.640
I'll tell you an well another one that's really well done.

479
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:04.920
I'm a big fan of the close quarters combat. Yeah,

480
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:11.319
the bathroom fight where her and the assassin are just

481
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.880
slugging it out. Poor Stephen Merchant is just cowering in

482
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:21.119
the shower like a fragile little thing. Look his son,

483
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.400
his his like the ten year old boy should be

484
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.559
hiding and and taking cover. Steven Merchant get up and

485
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:28.359
do something.

486
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:32.279
He picked up something in it and with it.

487
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:34.559
Yeah, that he got his ass handed to him again.

488
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:38.720
I mean, you know, I don't know, but that that moment,

489
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:42.119
here's something that I thought that that does really well.

490
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.039
The assassin gets the upper hand, he jams that hypodermic

491
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:50.920
needle into her with god knows what, and the sound

492
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:54.200
kind of goes away and all we hear is a heartbeat,

493
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.480
and it's getting slower and slower and slower, and I

494
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.000
think Foy is doing some damn good acting here because

495
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.359
just like she's just she's a mooting with just her eyes,

496
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.079
because like her body's kind of getting rigid and stiff,

497
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:08.319
and you're like, is she what's gonna happen? Is she

498
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.519
gonna black out? Or is she gonna make it? And

499
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:12.480
then we get this brilliant thing where she takes the

500
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:16.559
amphetamines and crushes them, you know, with the with the

501
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:19.359
pillow capsule, and and snorts it, and all of a sudden,

502
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:21.680
her heartbeat, like the heartbeat noise, just starts getting faster

503
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:25.160
and faster, and now she's back up. You know, She's

504
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:29.519
like she's like Mario or Princess Peach. Yeah, capturing the star.

505
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:32.480
Now now she's like invincible. She goes she's ready to

506
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.160
get up for around two. I love that moment. Bathroom

507
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:39.680
scene is awesome, absolutely awesome. One more scene. We'll take

508
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:41.359
a break here in a second, but one more scene

509
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:42.759
I do want to talk about, which was kind of

510
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.960
like a ah, kind of a kind of a moment

511
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.400
when they when Michale goes to he's like doing his

512
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.599
investigative journalism thing and he goes to visit that guy

513
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.839
in the arcade to find out about the spiders, and

514
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.480
you find out that the guy it's not that he

515
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:00.640
was a former member, it's that he would a victim.

516
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:02.839
And then he says, this is what the spiders did

517
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.759
to me, and all of a sudden, his face is

518
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:11.160
actually like a uh, this connection of a uh it's

519
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.440
a prosthetic, prosthetics, prosthesis. Yeah, and like he doesn't have

520
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.279
a news, he doesn't have an upper jaw, and he

521
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:21.960
takes everything off and it's like, look what you know?

522
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.960
This is this is what happens when the spiders come

523
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:31.119
for you. Ye. Holy shit, Like I mean, that's like

524
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:37.000
his doctor. Uh. That guy definitely worth the bill, but

525
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.400
man absolutely terrified.

526
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:41.079
That harsh way to live after that.

527
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:44.319
Well, and the scene, though as shocking as it is,

528
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.960
it does it does a great thing of show me,

529
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:54.079
don't tell me how bad the bad guys are. Mm hmm. Brilliant,

530
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:57.400
brilliant piece of writing. I thought, right there, Amber, let's

531
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:01.039
take a break and we'll get back. We'll talk a

532
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:06.759
little bit about this film's background and our director Fede Alvarez.

533
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:13.960
Welcome back, Amber Lewis and I discussing fed A Alvarez's

534
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.960
The Girl and the Spider's Web. Can I just say

535
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.880
one thing, one more thing about Elizabeth And I don't

536
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.480
know if you caught this, and I know I caught

537
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:29.319
it for a very specific reason. Elizabeth always wears dark,

538
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.799
shredded clothing, right, like she's she's on the fringe, right.

539
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:39.519
I know Rooney Mara had this amazing T shirt that

540
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.200
she wore in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

541
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:44.559
I don't know how they did that, because that is

542
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.160
a T shirt that has been worn for like twenty

543
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:47.759
years straight.

544
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.880
Yeah, but it's awesome, right because I.

545
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.680
Used to have a couple. We're in that condition and

546
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.680
you can't get rid of them. But I don't know

547
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.079
how they were able to make that look like that,

548
00:31:59.160 --> 00:31:59.720
like that was just.

549
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.359
A Elizabeth loves her slogan T shirts and The girlth

550
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.519
of Dragon Tattoo has a great one. I'm watching this

551
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.559
and I immediately as soon as I saw like some

552
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.759
print on the one that that Claire Foy was wearing,

553
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:16.160
I was like, Oh, that must be some kind of

554
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.880
profanity laced thing like Rooney Mara's. And it's not. And

555
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:26.279
I'll apologize for being crude. The shirt that Claire Foy

556
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:31.160
is wearing, says give me head till I'm dead. Amber.

557
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:35.240
I only bring it up because I've never seen it.

558
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:36.039
But I know.

559
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.599
Elizabeth is a She's a hacker. She's you know, you

560
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:44.839
can argue the point that hackers are nerds and she

561
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.240
is not. She is not the first nerd in cinema

562
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:51.400
history to wear this particular shirt. Do you know that

563
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:52.279
there's another nerd?

564
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:55.559
It's from Revenge of the Nerds. I don't know who

565
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:55.960
wears it.

566
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.720
This is the T shirt that Dudley Dawson, otherwise known

567
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:04.319
as Booger whears in uh in Revenge of the Nerds.

568
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.200
You said you haven't seen Revenge of the Nerds.

569
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:09.119
I can't and get conscience. Watch a movie where a

570
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.160
character's name is Booger like that's.

571
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:14.799
Oh, you can absolutely watch in good Well they got

572
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:16.839
they have one name. They have another guy named Ogre.

573
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:21.440
So it's fine. It bounces God. I think this is

574
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:25.559
just it's just it's such a coincidence because Jason and

575
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:27.519
Dee at the show that you Can't Be Serious podcast

576
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.880
they had, they just did their Animal House versus Revenge

577
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:32.400
of the Nerds.

578
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.119
Oh, that's so funny.

579
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.400
So I and I went back and I watched Revenge

580
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:41.000
of the Nerds, and I was talking to Jason because

581
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:43.319
you know, there's quite a bit in Revenge of the

582
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:47.200
Nerds that does not hold up well to today's standards.

583
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.319
And we were talking and he was like, you know,

584
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:51.559
I'd love to know what Amber Lewis thinks about Revenge

585
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.559
of the Nerds. And I said, I'll tell you what.

586
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.319
Next time I record with her, I will ask her.

587
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.519
And let's hope she doesn't blow her top. But you

588
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.119
haven't seen so now we now it's I haven't.

589
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.359
But I mean I can just imagine that if you're

590
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:06.799
pairing it with Animal House.

591
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:09.199
Yes, it's just.

592
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:15.440
A lot of misogyny and no just men being dufices.

593
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:21.679
Yeah, yeah, so you have seen it. All right, let's

594
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:22.599
move on. Let's move on.

595
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.760
I feel like she stole that shirt from somebody. Oh

596
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:27.519
I see her in something like that.

597
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.960
I'm like, clearly this is some some girl that she

598
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.719
picked up at the club, wore it, and then she

599
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.639
she claimed it. You know, yep, girls are girls are

600
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:42.400
known to take take T shirts as trophies. I know that,

601
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:47.079
so true T shirts and hoodies. You watch out, gentlemen.

602
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:52.920
So before he died. Steve Larsen had mapped out ten

603
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:56.239
stories for e. Lizabeth Salander and Michael Blancus for his

604
00:34:56.360 --> 00:35:00.599
Millennium Novels. He wrote the first three books before suffering

605
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.840
a fatal heart attack in two thousand and four. All

606
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:07.079
of his notes for his remaining work are in the

607
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:11.400
possession of his partner, Eva Gabrielson, who was not married

608
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:16.039
to Larson at the time, and meanwhile, his father and

609
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.800
brother inherited the rights to his literary estate. Sadly, both

610
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.360
parties chose not to come to terms about the direction

611
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:26.679
of the series and this that's just that's terrible.

612
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:32.840
Yeah, it's never an easy stretch when you know an

613
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.239
author has a lot of things mapped out and they're

614
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.199
not able to finish it themselves. I mean, sometimes you

615
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:42.840
get lucky and the new books under a new author,

616
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:46.719
you know, sometimes are better, but more often than not,

617
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.639
it's just a mess. And what you love about the

618
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.119
what the original author did, can't be replicated.

619
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:58.199
I just the tragedy here is that we're dealing with

620
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:03.880
three people who clearly loved Steer Glarsen, you know, his

621
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.639
his partner and his brother and his father. I would

622
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.599
think that they would come together in the hopes of

623
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:15.079
bringing his his vision of this stuff together and and

624
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.840
and get it out there, and and you know it's

625
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:20.719
gotta be about money, obviously, that's that's what the situation is.

626
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.199
Well, hear that you can be a partner to somebody,

627
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.880
and because you don't, you know, accept this piece of

628
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.760
paper to connect you, then it's like it never happened.

629
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:34.440
I would I get it. I get it. So the

630
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:38.480
family hired a new writer, David Legerkrantz. He creates all

631
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.480
new stories for Larson's characters, and the Girl in the

632
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:45.000
Spider's Web is based off his first book, which we

633
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.760
we know is the fourth one overall, and he's already

634
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.599
done his own trilogy. Have you have you looked at

635
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:51.800
any of these books Y had Amber?

636
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:53.920
Nope, I read the first three.

637
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:56.320
I liked him, and I didn't want to have anything

638
00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:58.840
to do with anybody else's vision.

639
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.840
All right, Well, someone who does want to have something

640
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:08.079
to do with someone else's vision is Vee Alvarez. This

641
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:10.400
is the guy you call. I feel like this is

642
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:13.000
starting to become the guy you call when you need

643
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:17.039
to infuse some new blood into a popular franchise. So

644
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.400
let's talk a little bit about him and he guests. Now,

645
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:23.519
now keep in mind he he kind of has made

646
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.519
a big name for himself in the in the world

647
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.519
of horror, and he guesses what his favorite movie is.

648
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:33.559
Probably something horrible like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre or something.

649
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:37.320
Again with the premonitions. We'll get that, we'll get we'll

650
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.039
get the we'll get to TCM in a minute, but

651
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:45.039
they very frightening film. Back to the Future is his

652
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:46.079
all time favorite movie.

653
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:53.280
That doesn't seem to match with his sensibilities. But no, no,

654
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:56.079
but hey, at least he likes a good movie.

655
00:37:56.440 --> 00:38:02.400
Yeah, let's talk about just hitting the express el to Hollywood.

656
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:06.800
You know. He releases his short film on Tique de

657
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:12.599
Pannicle Panic Attack on YouTube, and within a few weeks

658
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:14.880
he scores a deal with Ghost House Pictures to direct

659
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:19.679
a sci fi film. That deal eventually evolved into writing

660
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:24.840
and directing The Evil Dead. So again he's he's the

661
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:27.159
guy you call to revive a franchise. So The Evil

662
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.639
Dead had been kind of lingering for a while. We

663
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:30.440
love the Evil Dead.

664
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:33.079
I was gonna say I didn't see it because I

665
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:34.079
like the originals.

666
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:39.599
Okay, so here's what I'll tell you. There's only so

667
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:42.599
much you can do with that franchise. It's awesome, but

668
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.519
if you're not gonna get Bruce Campbell back, But but

669
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:48.199
you are going to get Sam Raimi back as a producer.

670
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.920
Your only choice is to try to capture a little

671
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:56.000
bit of the magic that the first one had, and

672
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:59.480
you've got to go straight out, balls to the wall scary,

673
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:04.079
and his version of Evil Dead is exactly that, and

674
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.199
it it kind of works. It's not it's not necessarily

675
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.920
a remake or reboot. Uh, You've got You've got a

676
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.639
group of friends going out to the cabin. They it's

677
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.880
and basically they're they're trying to stage an intervention for

678
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.960
one of their friends that's got a drug problem. Sadly,

679
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:23.599
the ecronomicon is there right and hell literally breaks loose.

680
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.880
You just just your hearts were in the right spot.

681
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.679
You just picked the wrong location to pull this thing off.

682
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:32.000
I mean, who could know.

683
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:37.320
In twenty sixteen, Marvel offers him a chance to direct

684
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:43.280
an unspecified movie and he says, no, we which blows

685
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.679
my mind because Dave and I just talked about this

686
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:49.880
a week ago when we were talking about m Knight

687
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:51.519
doing doing Split.

688
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:53.880
Oh that's a great episode by the way.

689
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.039
Oh well, thank you, thank you very much.

690
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:58.039
I enjoyed it so much.

691
00:39:58.480 --> 00:39:58.800
Thank you.

692
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.159
I love that trilogy anyway.

693
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.559
Oh, such a great trilogy. If I can find a

694
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.159
way to do the other we can talk about the

695
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.039
other two. We will, But you know we Dave and

696
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:13.880
I discussed how M. Knight famously told Marvel, No, I

697
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:17.280
don't want to direct anything for you. Why do my

698
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:17.679
own thing?

699
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:22.320
That a little more sense? This guy like talk about

700
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.880
at the money tree. I mean, Evil Dead remake is

701
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.719
not like you were making some arty in house.

702
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.880
Nothing, you know. Yeah, and here's Marvel saying, hey, come

703
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:34.719
on join the Marvel team. He declined, and he stated

704
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.079
that he knew that he would have little to no

705
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:41.320
creative control over the project, So you got to respect

706
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:46.400
to him, you know, not just cashing in. I don't

707
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.960
know what the story is here. But in twenty seventeen,

708
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:53.360
he was confirmed to be co writing and directing a

709
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:58.519
spinoff to the nineteen eighty six fantasy hit Labyrinth, and

710
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.119
then three years later he stepped from directing the film.

711
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:03.960
So he's still attached as a writer. But I don't

712
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:05.679
you know, there's been no movement on the project, so

713
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:07.480
I don't know if we'll ever see that, you know,

714
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:12.119
but can only imagine what a Labyrinth spin off. We

715
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.639
talked on our nineteen eighty six series. We talked about

716
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:17.719
you know, sequel, prequel, remake, you know, like the what ifs,

717
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.239
and we talked about how you could do a sequel

718
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.800
with an adult Jennifer Conley and how it would be

719
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:27.039
a huge success. But yes, no one's paying attention. Maybe

720
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.159
Fee is paying attention. Maybe maybe maybe he's going for

721
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:33.039
something like that. I don't know. Well, without further ado,

722
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:38.599
let's let's talk about this man's filmography, not too you know,

723
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.119
he's he's just now making his way through Hollywood. So

724
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:47.920
we already we just discussed The Evil Dead, Right, let's

725
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:53.000
talk a little bit about his next feature. I'm gonna

726
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.280
go ahead and say this is a divisive film, at

727
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:59.920
least in the the offices of a Film Buy twenty sixteen.

728
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:07.480
He does this thriller this uh just trapped in a

729
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:16.159
house horror movie called Don't Breathe, starring Stephen Lang. Let's

730
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.639
just set it up. Okay, let's just set let's be fair,

731
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.320
let's let's se let's set this up. Let's be fair.

732
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.559
Before someone someone out there's listening going, well, what's what's

733
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:30.760
don't breathe about? So we got three delined yes you do.

734
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:35.000
Three delinquents break into the house of a golf war

735
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.960
veteran who is blind to steal his money because allegedly

736
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.440
there's like a fortune inside this house, and much to

737
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:47.599
their horror, they discover that he's not this defenseless old

738
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.760
man that you know that they thought of. They get

739
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:54.440
in here and this house becomes like a one large

740
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:58.199
booby trap and he's basically hunting them because they can't

741
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.079
see anything because the lights are out. So it's kind

742
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:04.239
of even terf except for this guy's a you know,

743
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.760
he's trained to kill people and he's just hunting these

744
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:13.199
these uh these little ship bags that broken to his house.

745
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:14.000
Movie was.

746
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:18.159
The words that want to flow out of my mouth

747
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:18.519
right now.

748
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.239
If that is all that movie was, And the first

749
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.159
like two thirds of the movie.

750
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:24.320
That's what it is.

751
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:26.800
And it's great and you're having a good time, and

752
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.320
then it takes this evil twist in the middle and.

753
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.480
I'm like, he's spoiler free here, Okay, thank you, you're you're.

754
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:35.920
I will never watch this movie again.

755
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:40.159
I have to. I have to echo a little bit

756
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:45.559
of Amber's uh commentary. Here, you are rooting for the

757
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.960
blind man. That's that's the character's name. You're rooting for

758
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.639
this guy for the whole movie because you're like, yeah,

759
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:51.840
screw these kids.

760
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:56.480
You're empathetic to the girl because she's in a horrible homelife.

761
00:43:56.519 --> 00:44:00.519
She's trying to save her sister, you know, yeah, but

762
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.960
she's making them for kind of a good reason.

763
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.599
She's doing okay, So this there's there's kind of like

764
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:12.880
some uh remember Wes Craven's The People under the Stairs. Yes,

765
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.880
same same concept. It's, hey, we're gonna we're gonna break

766
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:19.920
into this house of this person that we know there's

767
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.760
a bunch of rich riches in there, and we're doing

768
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:26.039
it because we got to save our mom. You know

769
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.400
in that movie, they're they're trying to there's their moms

770
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.280
sick and they're trying to help her out. Jane Levy,

771
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:33.760
you know, she's she's got like a little brother that

772
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.119
needs help. And but you know what, you don't just

773
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:38.159
go break into people's house.

774
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:41.079
You're still breaking and entering and stealing things. It's not okay,

775
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:45.400
But it's not okay. They're not just horrible.

776
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.679
Kids that you want to see, you know, die in

777
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.360
this horror film, so you feel bad.

778
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:54.159
For you know, the blind guy. You're on the side.

779
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:57.719
Up until a certain point, and so you're not. Yeah,

780
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:03.039
the movie has as you cheering this guy on wholeheartedly.

781
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.280
You know, these kids are getting what they deserve, until

782
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:10.119
you find out he is not the hero of this

783
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:13.400
film and you are. It really messes with you because

784
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.800
now all of a sudden, you can't you can't empathize

785
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.480
with him, you can't follow him, you can't like him,

786
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:22.039
and you want him to meet a a terrible ending.

787
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.280
And I honestly I kind of dig that about the

788
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.440
movie because for two thirds of the movie, Jane Leavy's

789
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.719
character Rocky, I want her to be punished. She's doing

790
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:34.639
something bad. But then all of a sudden, I'm on

791
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.039
her side. I'm on her team, and I'm desperately hoping

792
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.480
that she gets away with it. And she she she

793
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:44.920
beats the blind man. So that's I think we've said enough.

794
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:53.440
I own the Blu Ray Collectors Edition. Head to your

795
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:55.639
local store, your Barnes and.

796
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:57.960
Noble money for this piece of girl.

797
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:02.719
Oh oh, I know I did not pay money. I

798
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.639
paid good money for this awesome.

799
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.480
Movie Lord in Heaven.

800
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:12.920
Yeah, all right, listeners. Amber Lewis is the voice of reason,

801
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.360
and this is a defining moment where we can find

802
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:18.519
out if that's true, that's a true statement or not.

803
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:21.320
So you watch Don't Breathe, or if you've seen Don't Breathe,

804
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:24.360
you got to let us know, email us, hit us

805
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.320
up on social media, let us know what you think

806
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:31.800
of Don't Breathe, because Amber clearly does not want to

807
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:36.719
breathe another word about this movie, So we'll find out.

808
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.239
Let's move on. We've been talking about The Girl in

809
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.239
the Spider's Web, which came out in twenty eighteen. He

810
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:47.239
did an entire television series, nine episodes. It was like

811
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:52.440
a mini series called Calls. Did you catch that? I

812
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:56.159
think we need to look into this one. Listen to this,

813
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:59.960
Listen to this synopsis. Told through a series of intricate

814
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.599
concted phone conversations, it chronicles the mysterious story of a

815
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:09.320
group of strangers whose lives are thrown into disarray in

816
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.679
the lead up to an apocalyptic event. Sounds kind of cool.

817
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:14.360
I'm intrigued.

818
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:18.400
I'm very intrigued now because the top two stars that

819
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:21.280
are attached to it are Clancy Brown and Aubrey Plaza.

820
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.800
I love both of them, so seriously, we got homework.

821
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:31.800
We have got some homework for sure. All right, Well,

822
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:36.280
he does this television series right, and then he does

823
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.800
something that I just I can't get on board with.

824
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.960
I'm sorry. I was excited as a fan of horror films.

825
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:46.840
I was super excited about this until I wasn't. In

826
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:49.840
twenty twenty two, he does a little bit of the

827
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:54.639
writing and I guess producing of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre,

828
00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:03.400
which was the Netflix original. Ah, this movie is hot garbage.

829
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:08.400
Why I hate any and all iterations of this movie.

830
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.920
I that is like my litmus test for if people

831
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.880
are serious or not. I feel like if you say

832
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.320
that this is your favorite horror movie, you're just trying

833
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:19.760
to sound edgy and cool and like you've got a

834
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:24.400
dark side. And because it's ridiculous, because every version of

835
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:25.320
this movie is terrible.

836
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:31.719
Well, some versions of this film are terrible. Some versions

837
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:36.559
of this film are awesome. You cannot deny it. It's

838
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.679
placed in cinema history as a classic horror film. It

839
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.320
changed the landscape for horror when Toby Hooper did this.

840
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:48.079
That this is true. It still doesn't mean it's any good.

841
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:52.719
Well, watch it, you should. You should definitely Amber, You

842
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.320
should definitely watch Texas Chancelmasker Part two because it's from

843
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.800
nineteen eighty six and it's awesome. Other than that, you know,

844
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:03.880
Platinum Dunes when they did the remake with Jessica Biel,

845
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:08.239
that one was pretty good. This one, however, is awful.

846
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.440
This is the one where social media influencers are heading

847
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.559
out to this Texas, this forgotten Texas ghost town to

848
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.199
start up like a utopia with all their bullshit, and

849
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.840
leather Face get kind of is still hanging out, but

850
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:25.880
it's a it's a terrible version of leather Face. He's

851
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.360
still I mean, he butchers all of them, which makes

852
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:32.280
you very happy. Like, the one good thing I can

853
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:36.079
say is watching him just mow down a bunch of

854
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:41.119
dipshit kids that are trying to video like they're let's

855
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:44.440
not help each other or stop the killer, let's just

856
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:51.800
film him for Instagram to get likes and oh lord. Yeah.

857
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:55.639
So it's in that regard, it's great. But other than that,

858
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:56.840
what's the one where the.

859
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:02.039
Girl is like Leatherface's cousin at the end.

860
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.199
Uh, you're talking about the lovely Alexandra de Dario. That

861
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:13.119
was Texas Chainsaw Mascer three d. Okay, that one came out,

862
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:15.119
That one came after I like.

863
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:18.639
Her and I did enjoy that one day kill us,

864
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:19.639
but I enjoyed it.

865
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:21.320
You'll find that one on my shelf.

866
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:25.599
Of the little concern that I'm gonna find a lot

867
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:27.679
on your shelf that's worrisome.

868
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.719
Of the of the eight or nine Texas Chancel Master

869
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.559
movies that are out there, you will find the one

870
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:36.559
that you like on my shelf. With Alexander d Dario.

871
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.199
You'll find the Jessica Bill version, and you'll definitely find

872
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:42.639
the original and uh in part two, which stars Bill

873
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.639
mostly Uh, it's fantastic. We gotta talk about what's next

874
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.800
for this director. Uh we are we already at the

875
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:54.000
top of the hour. We said it. Alien Romulus has

876
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:57.280
just taken the number one spot at the box office

877
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.559
from dead Pool and Wolverine. It's bound to happen. Really,

878
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.400
it beats It beats Dead Pull and Wolverine. It's it's

879
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:07.440
number one. And I'm telling you right now, go if

880
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.840
you're a fan of the Alien franchise, go see this

881
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:15.079
on the biggest, loudest screen possible. It will freak you out.

882
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:21.599
The Xeno Morphs are just terrifying. You know, hr Geigers

883
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:25.679
design is flawless in this movie, the execution is flawless.

884
00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:30.920
You've got a great cast of respectfully, I'll say, are unknowns,

885
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.039
which which in a movie like that? And I feel

886
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:37.400
like you have to say that the alien is the star, right,

887
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:43.679
I mean, yeah, yeah, So I can't say enough good

888
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:47.239
about it. It's you know, and I'll keep it spoiler free.

889
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:51.000
I'll just say I'll put it top three. It's a

890
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.920
top three alien film, So you know, I'm gonna go

891
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:58.199
Alien Aliens in Alien Romulus. That's my top three in

892
00:51:58.199 --> 00:51:59.159
this franchise, now.

893
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:03.880
I mean that's pretty impressive, No, considering we got a

894
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:06.719
David Fincher alien you know.

895
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:09.599
Me, I don't know.

896
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:13.920
Well, no, we're together on this. I love. I think

897
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:17.119
it's called the assembly cut, you know Fincher. Fincher doesn't

898
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:20.000
own you know, he doesn't own it himself. He doesn't

899
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.119
call it his director's cut. It's known as like the

900
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.440
producer's cut or the assembly cut. I actually discussed it

901
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:29.239
with our friends on the show You Keet Me Serious podcasts,

902
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:33.440
one of our famous what the Heck happened episodes. Yes,

903
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:37.960
I tried in vain to to win Jason and d

904
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:40.719
over to the fact that Alien three is an awesome movie.

905
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:45.840
If you watch the Assembly cut and still waiting, you know,

906
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:48.199
they and I even I would so far, Amber, I

907
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:49.840
know there. I hope. I'm hoping they're listening to this.

908
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:52.679
I went so far as to send them a copy

909
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:57.800
of Fincher cut, so just to prove my point that that, guys,

910
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.719
you'll love it because they've seen the theatric version, which

911
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:04.920
is right, it's awful. So I was I was already

912
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:08.400
sledding uphill with these guys on that episode on the

913
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:10.960
show you can't be a serious podcast. But I'm hoping

914
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:13.320
for a little bit of validation. I'm hoping that they'll

915
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:14.960
they'll get time to sit down, watch and go, you

916
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:19.199
know what, the producer's cut, the assembly cut. It's damn

917
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:19.960
good movie.

918
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.639
Right, yeah, definitely not the worst of all the Alien

919
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:24.480
movies we've had.

920
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:29.599
Well, it's not. And speaking of all the films in

921
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:34.360
a franchise, you have watched the three Swedish films, you've

922
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:39.400
watched the Fincher film, You've now watched the Fete Alvarez film.

923
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:42.679
Amber your final thoughts. Is this one you would tell

924
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:46.239
fans of the of the Millennium series? Would you tell

925
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:48.199
them to check this one out? No?

926
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.719
But I would tell people if you want to watch

927
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:56.679
like a fun cyber thriller, like you've watched all the

928
00:53:56.679 --> 00:54:00.559
Mission Impossibles and you want to watch something kind of

929
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:03.760
like that, a little different than watch this one. But

930
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:06.159
if you go into it thinking it has anything to

931
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:10.400
do with the other, you know stories, I think it'd

932
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:12.119
be disappointed.

933
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:17.000
I was not disappointed because I feel like, keep in mind,

934
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:21.440
this is Feede Alvarez's first non horror film, but quietly

935
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.360
I feel that this is his first James Bond film.

936
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:28.280
Felt like even with the opening credit sequence.

937
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:29.199
I thought that too.

938
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.480
If you didn't if I didn't know, if I just

939
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:37.000
walked into the room and I saw this credit sequence

940
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.559
happening on the screen and I wasn't like a major

941
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:43.760
James Bond fan also, and I said, what is it?

942
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:45.320
Is this a James Bond movie? And you said yeah,

943
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.679
I would just absolutely assume it was. The opening title

944
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:56.239
sequence is amazing, the graphics, the music, everything works, and

945
00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:59.239
it is straight out of a James Bond movie. So

946
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I'm gonna say if you if you like fed A

947
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Alvarez and you would love to know what his James

948
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:09.360
Bond movie looks like, check out The Girl and Spider's Web. Absolutely,

949
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:13.239
it is streaming on Stars and you can rent it.

950
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It's on Prime. I watched the I watched the four

951
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K version on Prime. Is that where you got an Amber?

952
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:19.039
I watched it on Stars?

953
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You watch it on Stars? Yeah. Amber Lewis is a

954
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:28.320
subscriber to Stars. Yeah. On the Hulu. Yeah. If you

955
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:30.800
got a favorite show you can't find it, just call

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Amber up show show much over. It's on the Stars network. Listeners.

957
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We want to know what you think of feed A Alvarez.

958
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We want to know what you think of this film,

959
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:42.639
and I definitely want to know what you think about

960
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:46.280
Don't Breathe. You can let us know on social media.

961
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:50.000
You'll find us on Facebook, Instagram, and x. You can

962
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.519
check out a Film by Podcast dot com for all

963
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.400
of our episodes streaming free on the platform of your choice,

964
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and you can write to us at a Film by

965
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Podcast at gmail dot com with your questions, comments and concerns. Amber.

966
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:06.840
I love more and more this is happening and I'm

967
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:08.559
loving it. But I'm also like I'm starting to pan

968
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it because I'm like, oh, we said we'd do this movie,

969
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:13.159
we said we do that movie, and you know, but

970
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.400
but keep them coming, keep them coming, because you may

971
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not know it, but you're building our our next season

972
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in twenty twenty five.

973
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So yeah, it's exciting because it's movies that maybe I

974
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:25.639
haven't seen before.

975
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:28.199
Yeah, that's happening more and more. We just did it.

976
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We just our Patreon. This past Saturday, we released Silent Running.

977
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That was it was a request, which was which is

978
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funny because because Nan Lewis gets a gets a shout

979
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:44.559
out in it. But yeah, we we had we had

980
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a listener, Tracy, Tracy Claire. She's a she's a subscriber

981
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:51.760
to our Patreon. She take she took advantage of the

982
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tier that lets you choose a Patreon episode of your choice,

983
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and she one of the nineteen seventy two films, Silent

984
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Running with Bruce Den and I was I was stoked

985
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because I had never seen it and I was not

986
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prepared for what I watched and I love it. Thank you,

987
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:10.719
Thank you to Tracy for that.

988
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:11.559
Thank you, Tracy.

989
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Yeah, so yeah, listeners reach out to us, you know,

990
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I tell you all that to tell you this, reach

991
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:18.440
out to us, let us know what you want to see,

992
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:21.719
what you want to hear, and uh, we may just

993
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.760
read your response on the show. We may we may

994
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:27.039
talk about you on the show and uh and send

995
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:30.280
you some a film by Swag next time on a

996
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:34.599
Film by court is in session with a special episode.

997
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Join us as we make a case for our top

998
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five Courtroom movies.

999
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I am so excited for this episode.

1000
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:47.280
I had dinner with Dave the other night. Like I said,

1001
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:50.079
we went and saw Alien Romulus and we were talking

1002
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:52.199
about this. He's like, okay, so this I gotta know.

1003
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Did this make the top five. I'm like, hey, dude,

1004
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:58.159
just just wait listen. I can't I can't tell you

1005
00:57:58.199 --> 00:57:59.960
do your way to spoil it. He's like, yes, Like,

1006
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:06.719
well I won't, so Amber. As always, I appreciate you

1007
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.679
joining me for a spirited conversation.

1008
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:13.880
Uh we disagree.

1009
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.320
Yeah, Well, I knew going into this is like, you know,

1010
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:21.679
we might have a pleasant conversation until we get to

1011
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:24.119
don't breathe and then and the gloves are coming off.

1012
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:28.639
But no, nonetheless, nonetheless, I'm glad. I'm glad you're here.

1013
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.639
I'm glad because I know When we get past this

1014
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:35.760
courtroom episode, Beetlejuice, Beetle Juice will be out and you

1015
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:38.039
and I are gonna be talking about Tim Burton film. Yes,

1016
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:42.000
a film by Tim Burton. I believe we're doing big Fish,

1017
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aren't we?

1018
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Absolute favorite big Fish?

1019
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.039
Your favorite Tim Burton film. Big Fish is up next,

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So listeners definitely come back for that one and uh

1021
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:55.079
and keep coming back. To all of you out there listening, following,

1022
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and sharing us as well as subscribing to our Patreon,

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we thank you.