Oct. 5, 2025
Francis Lawrence - Constantine

How about just one more Keanu Reeves movie with Jeff and Garret? It's scary movie season, so there's never been a better time to discuss Francis Lawrence's 2005 supernatural superhero film, Constantine, which stars Keanu as the chain-smoking, demon-fighting, occult detective!
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All right, We're gonna do a little word association. I'm
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gonna give you a list of character names, and then
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you give me the one name that comes to mind.
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Are you ready, all right? Johnny Utah, Jonathan Harker, Johnny Knumonic,
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John Wick, Johnny Silverhand.
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I would have to say the name that comes to
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mind is mister Keanu Reeves, who we've covered twice here recently.
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Keanu Reeves. I feel like, if you need someone to
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play a badass character named John or Johnny, Keanu Reeves
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gotta be at the top of the list.
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I think at this point in time, he is the
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top of the list. If you're looking for someone named
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Johnny that brings that charismatic energy to that leading role,
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this is the guy for the role.
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You know. I didn't name them all though. Twenty twelve,
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he plays a character named John in a movie called
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Generation Um.
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I don't think I've seen that.
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I haven't seen it yet, but now we have to
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see it now because I've seen I feel like I've
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collected all of the Keanu Reeves John character films at
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this point, so now now it's a must watch. There's
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just one more name we didn't we didn't cover. So
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let's talk about a film by Francis Lawrence, his two
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thousand and five underrated supernatural film Constantine. Hello everybody, I'm Jeff.
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Johnson and I'm Gary Gibson, and this is.
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A film by Podcast Garrett. My apology, sir. We we
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initially were thinking we were going to talk about Counta
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Reeves playing John Constantine at the end of September, but
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I'll tell you, ten hour drive across America had me
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a little wiped out and I was not ready to
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talk about Constantine.
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Hey, I completely understand, and this is a film that
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needs the dedication to it, So, you know, being a
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little tired, being a little war out from the road,
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we'll go ahead and take a couple extra days to
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do this film some justice. Absolutely.
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I appreciate your patients. I appreciate the listeners patients. Last
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week we kind of kicked off our Halloween stuff early
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with David. David stop bye, We did thinner. They probably think,
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what the hell happened to Garrett and count of Reeves,
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you know, but we're.
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Here, We're back. There's always time for Garrett and counter Reeves.
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You know, we'll find it eventually.
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It's It's okay, we certainly will Constantine. Let's talk. Let's
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talk about this movie. Let's talk about this director, Francis Lawrence,
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because it's a name a lot of people probably aren't
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familiar with.
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Yeah, it's a name that you don't really think about
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too much because for the first bunch of things he
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did in his career, it was music videos.
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Man, a lot of music videos. Well, let's just jump
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into it. How about let's talk a little Let's talk
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some facts, let's talk some trivia about Francis Lawrence.
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You're right.
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He is one of the most popular music video directors
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in the business, with more than sixty to his credit. Garrett.
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He's worked with Sarah McLaughlin, Aerosmith, j Lo, Destiny's Child,
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Green Day, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Pink Audio, Slave,
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and Nine Inch Nails, just to name a few.
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I noticed you out Ricky Martin there, but I'll forgive
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you for it. It's okay.
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Hey, look, no issues with Live in Levita Loca. You
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know I'm cool with that. I'll tell you another one
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I left out. It was the fifty third Grammy Awards,
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where he won Best Short Form Music Video for Lady
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Gaga's Bad Romance.
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Oh man, okay, so yeah. His music videos are noteworthy,
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to say the least.
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He's all over the map, man, I mean, think about Aerosmith.
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He did it for the arm again, what was it.
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I don't want to miss a thing.
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Yeah, I don't want to miss a thing, lived Tyler.
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Yeah, yep yeah. Now. Before earning his bachelor's degree in
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film production, he worked as a second unit director on
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what could be my favorite Christian Slater film ever, Pump
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Up the Volume.
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Oh that's a good one.
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That's such a damn good movie.
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Man.
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I love Pump Up the Volume. Oh yeah, great, great
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for it's great soundtrack.
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The young young Slater. I mean, you gotta love it.
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I'll tell you what else I'm loving. Have you seen this?
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This amazing TV mini series on Apple Plus with Jason
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Amoa called a Chief of War.
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I have not seen it, but I have seen several
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previews for it, but haven't haven't cracked into it yet.
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It is a must watch Garrett and also is executive
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produced by Francis Lawrence.
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Man, he's just out here right now, anywhere.
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Yeah, he's having a moment, right, He's having a moment.
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I wouldn't go breaking into this guy's house. I mean,
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you shouldn't anyways. But the reason I say that when
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it comes to home security, he does happen to own
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the Holy shotgun that Constantine uses in this movie.
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Does he really?
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Yes, it was actually purchased from Warner Brothers and gifted
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to him by Keanu Reeves.
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That's pretty awesome, honest, it's awesome. Right. The thing that
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I love most about this is like, if you look
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through his filmography as far as director goes, it's all
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these music videos and then bam Constantine. It's like, this
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is how we're kicking it off with, Like.
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Yeah, his feature film debut is he's getting a DC
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superhero film Constantine.
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YEP, with Keanu Reeves, with.
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Kanu Reeves attached. Yeah, yeah, there's been some other people attached.
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We'll get to that. But before we do, Garrett, I
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know we have listeners that have not seen Constantine. We
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most likely have listeners that have not read the Constantine
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comic book. Can you tell it? Can you tell us
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a little bit about what this movie is all about?
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Yes? So this film follows John Constantine as he helps
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a detective Angela Dots and played by Rachel Weiss investigate
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her twin sisters apparent suicide, uncovering a supernatural plot involving
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a proxy war between Heaven and Hell based on the
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DC comic DC Slash Vertigo comic Hell Blazer.
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Fantastic h I got to point out excellent pronunciation on
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Rachel Weiss. She's got one of those names. You know,
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everyone sees her name and you immediately want to say
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whyse Yeah, it's Vice. It's Vice, like miamy Vice.
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It is. Yep, it's a I forget where that comes from.
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I can't remember if it's Austrian or what it is,
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but yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The movie is celebrating its twentieth anniversary this year. Hard
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to believe because the film is gorgeous.
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It truly is, And I would say their special effects
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in this film were kind of groundbreaking at the point
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in time.
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Absolutely, because I was watching this the other day and
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I thought, wait a minute, this is twenty years old. Yep,
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this could have been made this year with the with
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the effects.
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Absolutely, I think with the effects that we're given in
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just the direction of the film, for being something that
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was done in two thousand and five, it's crazy to
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be like you know what, I could see this blend
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right in with the superhero world right now.
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Absolutely, as you mentioned, based off the hell Blazer comic
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book series from DC Vertigo. Loosely based, we should say,
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because well, I'm not overly knowledgeable about the character John Constantine,
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but I've spoke with several diehard fans of the comic
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who are anything but happy with this film at at taption, So.
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Yeah, not too many actual comic fans are very happy
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with this. He didn't wear the trademark, you know, Tan
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dust are in this one. He didn't wear the red tie,
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he didn't have the blonde hair. He had the mannerisms
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and everything. But a lot of actual comic boys kind
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of picked this one apart.
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I got a few film versus comic book uh comparisons later. Uh.
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But you know, interestingly enough, the film's title, which originally
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was hell Blazer, like the comic book, had to be
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changed to avoid confusing it with hell Boy, which had
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come out of the year. It just came out a year.
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Before, yep. And I mean with Vertigo being attached to
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this and a smaller indie group kind of running with
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hell Boy, I could see that being an issue there
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and kind of pulling the audience away from that film
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a little bit.
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Yeah, people going, yeah, did you see hell Boy Help
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Help hell Blazer? Hell, Hell, We're help. And then there's
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Hell Razor out there, There's Hell. It's tough out there,
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you know. But uh, you know. Coincidentally, both films feature
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the spirit Destiny. Yes, and it's it happens to be
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the exact same movie.
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Problem is it? Really?
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They didn't even make a new one for this movie.
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They just said, hey, that works, can we have it?
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Can we use it? And you'll have to someone will
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have to fact check me on this. But I'm also
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I'm almost positive this prop shows up again in a
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Supernatural TV series.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah, okay.
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Because I feared the episode, but I think Dean was
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kind of looking at it wondering about it.
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I could see that. I've always kind of thought like
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that falls into that realm of Constantine kind just that
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super natural but also good versus evil age old battle,
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you know. I feel like that universe fits very well
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with him.
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I gotta be honest, I always get excited when you
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hear when you see like a biblical weapon, yes in
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a film. I mean obviously the goat is the arc
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of the covenants.
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The loss has to be.
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But I feel like, I mean, the Spirit Destiny, it's
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a real relic. Yeah, and I feel like it hasn't
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got it to do yet, Like when are we gonna
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get a proper Spiritdestiny film on one?
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Oh man. Man, that's a tough one. It's one of
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those things that I think is a very vowed question.
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But I don't think too many people are clamoring for it.
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I just feel like Indiana Jones should have went after
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this probably thirty years ago.
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Oh absolutely. I mean, you go ahead and give Harrison
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Ford enough money. He'll go after it next year. I'll
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tell you now, Hey, that's what he said. He's like,
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I'm still in the film business. He's like, they keep
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offering me money. I'm not gonna say no.
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Oh man, if we could, if we could have a
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Indiana Jones and the Spirit of Destiny, Yeah, just to
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wash the bad taste of uh, the last one. I
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don't I can't remember the name. It was so bad.
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I can't remember the name of it. Uh, the time
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travel gizmo.
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Honestly, I remember the name. Wait, yep, there it is.
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I don't want a Dial of Destiny. I want a
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spear of destiny. You had one, you had one job,
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you know.
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You know they tried to top themselves on the Crystal
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Scall movie. They yeah, and they did. They did yeah,
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and they're like, yeah, could we do worse? Oh? We did,
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all right?
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I remember, I remember the first time I saw Constantine.
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We got that black title screen and it just comes up,
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he who possesses the spear of Destiny holds the fate
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of the world in his hands. And then next paragraph,
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the spear of Destiny has been missing since the end
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of World War Two. Now you're like, it's on, We've
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got our Spirit Destiny movie.
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Yep, we kind of do.
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It takes takes a real back seat to like the
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rest of the plot of the movie. I feel like.
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You get maybe five minutes of screen time with this thing.
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Come on, you know, we find it.
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You know the dude, you know, the Mexican guy gets
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it out of cool and then he stops a car
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like that's traveling at least sixty miles an hour, just
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destroys it.
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But you know he's holding the spa, so he's invincible.
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He's all powerful.
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Which is by far one of the cooler scenes in
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that film. I absolutely love that great.
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Opening this movie. It's this movie succeeds in having a
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great prologue and then and then a great prologue and
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then we start the movie because you know, I don't want,
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