April 20, 2025

Gavin O'Connor - The Accountant

Gavin O'Connor - The Accountant
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Season 6 A Film By...

Jeff welcomes Garret Gibson to the show for a chat about math savants, anti-aircraft sniper rifles, priceless comic books, franchise potential, and Jon Bernthal. It can only be Gavin O'Connor's 2016 action thriller, The Accountant!

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The show is getting bigger. Sometimes you gotta add a

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little depth to your roster. Garrett. I'm looking at your

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resume and first and foremost it says your film knowledge

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is extensive.

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Yes, sir, absolutely.

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Jeff all Right says here you have met more than

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your fair sheriff celebrities.

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Oh. Absolutely, Just to name a few real quick, Kane Hotter,

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Tony Todd, Mark McGrath also as well, I mean Mark McGrath. Yeah,

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we're going to deal with Godfrey, We're going Kale from

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Kenan and kel with it. The list goes on. Brother,

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but whether it's comedy orror musician, I'm always excited to

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meet him and try and learn a little more about

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the craft.

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Uh.

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One one last thing here, and I think this is

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important to uh, I know some of our other co hosts. Uh,

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you're pretty you're pretty big on the comic con scene.

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Oh absolutely. Bit of cosplay, Yeah, absolutely love cosplaying to

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a lot of my natural EVA foam builds. And and

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then of course the one I'm most proud of currently

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is my three D printed Mandalorian cosplay. Absolutely excited to

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debut that coming up for our Cincinnati Comic Y Expos shows.

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So absolutely looking forward to it.

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Brother, i'd say you're hired. So I'll tell you what.

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Let's we got a pretty big movie coming out the

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later this weekend. So let's talk about a film by

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Gavin O'Connor, his twenty sixteen, initially underrated, now popular action

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thriller The Accountant. Hello, everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson, and this

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is a film by podcast. I am excited to welcome

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my very good friend Garrett Gibson to the show to

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uh to talk about uh, The Accountant with me. Garrett, welcome, Thank.

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You, Jeff, appreciate it, sir. Excited to be here and

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look forward to going over some of our favorite moments

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and then counting.

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I gotta tell you, man like me and you, we've

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been this last year. So we've been we've been checking

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out movies. You know, You've always got amazing feedback. You've

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got great stories. I love talking movies with you. It

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was only a matter of time before I was gonna,

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you know, rope you into this this uh, this gig

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on a film buy as far as I was concerned.

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Hey, absolutely, brother, I'm just glad to be part of

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the journey, glad to be trying out for the team

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here and see how things go.

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Man, Absolutely well, we got we've got a great director here,

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Gavin O'Connor.

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Uh.

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A couple of facts about Gavin and a quote from

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the man to begin a little something for all you

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Ted Demi fans. Back in nineteen ninety two, Gavin O'Connor

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wrote and produced Ted Dimi's directorial debut, a short film

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called The bet Last Christmas. Amber Lewis and I covered

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Ted Dimi's The ref Go back and check that one

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out or wait till Christmas your choice. Strained family relationships

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and redemption are themes that you'll find in his films.

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He actually was separated from his brother at an early

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age when their parents got divorced and they chose to

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live with different parents. And lastly, back in twenty thirteen,

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he began work on adapting the novel The Hustler for

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the stage. And if you don't know The Hustler, it

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is a fantastic book, absolutely fantastic film starring Paul Newman.

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I would definitely recommend that one. Hopefully he gets back

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to that and finishes it. And last a quote from

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Gavin O'Connor, he once said, I want to be making

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films that are somehow born out of me, that are

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stories I want to tell. The challenge is figuring out

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how to do it where you can make them personal

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yet still deliver to an audience a film experience that

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is satisfying and emotional. And that's what I'm trying to do. So,

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like I said, man, this this movie. Initially, I don't

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think it was as known as it is now. Obviously

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we've got We've got The Accountant Part two coming out,

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They're already in development on a third one. But I

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gotta I gotta say, like, you know, I was talking

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about this movie with a couple other people and they're like, what,

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What's what's that one? What's he do? Is that ad

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Jason sat at the movie? I'm like, No, it's it's

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Ben Affleck. It's The Accountant, Garrett. Any chance you can

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give a quick synopsis, let the listeners know what The

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Accountant is all about?

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Absolutely, so that overview of the film is Christian Wolf,

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played by Ben Affleck, is a mathematics savant and with

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more affinity for numbers than people. Using a small town's

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CPA office as a cover, he makes his living as

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a freelance accountant for dangerous criminal organizations with a treasury

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agent played by JK. Simmons by the name of Raymond

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King hot on his heel, Christian takes on the state

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of the Art Robotics company as a legitimate client. As

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Wolf gets closer to the truth about a discrepancy that

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involves millions of dollars in theft, the body count starts

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to rise.

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Not bad, my friend, not bad. Pretty accurate account of

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the accountant, I have to say. Surprisingly, this was originally

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intended for Mel Gibson to start in with the Coen

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Brothers directing. Really yeah, imagine that. Now think about this.

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Do you remember movie Mel did called Conspiracy Theory?

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So oh him Patrick Stewart, Yes.

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Sir, yeah, So I could see him playing this character.

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I could almost see him. I could almost see this

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movie being like a sequel to that in some ways.

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Absolutely I could see that. And especially with work Mel

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Gibson was doing, you know, late nineties, early two thousands

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up till about twenty ten, you're looking at movies like

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Conspiracy Theories, You're looking at Payback, you're looking at edge

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of darkness. With Mel Gibson, those tough, gritty movies. I

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feel like that is something produced with the Cohens. I

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think that would have been something that everyone would love

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to have seen. But that being said, Ben Affleck does

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an absolutely amazing and instellar job with this, and Gavin

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O'Connor directed it absolutely perfectly.

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I gotta agree with you, man, because I love this film.

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I know some people that didn't love it. The the

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autism community, surprisingly this is a little outspoken against it. Now.

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They both O'Connor and Affleck, they worked, you know, they

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stated that they worked with autistic people to understand to

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learn about about this world. And uh, you know, there's

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a lot of a lot of fans that are you know,

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that are like, you know, this doesn't this isn't an

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accurate representation of our community. Be that as it may, though,

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it's still hell a hell of a thriller as far

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as I'm concerned. What do you think?

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You're absolutely correct. There's a few films such as this,

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and even jumping over to I want to say it's

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twenty thirteen, twenty eleven film Paint and Gain Mark Wohlberg,

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lot of flack because it's based off a true story,

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and those people like you're going to a theater. You're

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laughing at these bumbling boobs and all this stuff and

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hid insight. This movie is about someone that was kidnapped,

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someone that was eventually murdered in this old scenario. So

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I do get it. When you start messing around with

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real world things, everyone is going to have an opinion

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on it and you will eventually affect somebody by it.

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But with the way Gavin O'Connor and Ben Affleck approached it,

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I think they went about it the correct way. I

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think they handled it with the utmost respect for the community.

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I do absolutely so. It's one of those things that myself,

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not being afflicted by it, I did not see an

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issue with it, but I do see how some people

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could have been.

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Yeah, I think the I think the main criticism is

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that maybe some of the stereotypes are are emphasized for

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dramatic effect, which it's Hollywood, You're gonna have that. I'm

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not saying it's right, but you know something, sometimes it's

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gonna happen.

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Yeah, especially with scenes with the deprivation where he's in

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the room with the flashing lights, the sound going off

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and rolling, Yeah, just to meet his sensory needs, so

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he actually normalized himself essentially, is what he's trying to do.

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Yeah, I mean, and the movies, you know, it kind

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of sets up the premise early on. You know, we

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I love I love when we see young Christian and

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go to the go to the center and he's doing

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the puzzle, the the the Ali puzzle upside down. You

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don't know it, but you know there's a great reveal.

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Uh.

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Meanwhile, we've got like, you know, we've got the parents

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talking with the specialist and he's basically explaining they're they're, they're, they're,

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They're kind of giving us the backstory of who this

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guy is gonna be right, but I don't know, I

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I dig it. And it's the Easter egg there that

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with the little girl that's gonna play throughout the movie

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that I think it's fan fantastic. Garrett, let's take a

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quick break. When we get back. We gotta talk about

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we gotta talk about Ben and we got to talk

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about some of us co stars.

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All right, sounds perfect, brother, Thank.

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You, Welcome back. Garrett Gibson is here. We are talking

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about Gavin O'Connor's the accountant. Garrett. I want to we

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gotta start off with Ben Affleck playing Christian Wolf, an

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accountant for hire to the most dangerous criminals in the underworld.

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Also has a high functioning form of autism, which lends

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itself to his narrow focus and inability to abandon tasks

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and a hard time socializing with people even though he

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wants to listen. I know you are no stranger to

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the world of comic books. I love the fact that

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he uses the Solomon Grundy your nursery rhyme to soothe himself,

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calm himself down.

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That you know, that's one of the most amazing things.

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When I first watched this film and he's rattling it

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off and she's listening to it and re recording of it.

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She's trying to take it down, break it down to

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exactly what he is saying in that first Crystal Clear

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moment where she's like Slomon Grundy born on a Monday,

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and I'm like, get out of here. I love this.

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I'm telling you that's I could be wrong, but I

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think that's definitely Ben Affleck adding something to the character,

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because you know he's a big DC guy. He loves comics.

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Surprise me. Yeah, it's one of those things where he's

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he's grabbing the get grab bag when he's got Andrew

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Kendrick with Enna Kendrick with him, and one of the

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only things he grabs is the Superman Action comics off

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the top of the stack and puts it in the

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bug out bag.

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And yeah, that's.

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Something where it's like, yep, that's Ben Affleck.

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We're gonna get to that. So Ben stated that his

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performance in this film is one of his top five

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personal favorites. The others on the list include his work

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in Chasing Amy Argo, Goodwill Hunting, and his various appearances

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as Batman. So I gotta be honest, I think Christian

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Wolf that he's keeping great company because all those characters

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are fantastic, you know, Bruce, Wayne, Chucky, Tony Hold McNeil.

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I think Christian Wolf's right there with them. Man, I'm

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glad that this is becoming a franchise. It should have.

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I mean, think about this. We're nine years in the

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making on the sequel. Thankfully, they're already in production, like

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I said, on the third one, but we should be

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at like the account in Part four or five at

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this point, don't you think.

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So You're right, brother, it's one of those things where

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it comes along every now and then where a film

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doesn't get a lot of sizzle when it first comes out,

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but then years later it starts to hit you with

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that slow burn where you're like, oh, this is kind

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of like a cold classic, we want more of this?

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How can we get more of this cold, calm and

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calculated ben Affleck. I mean it's happened with numerous movies

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like this, like the first boon Dock Saints. We did

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not see Boondock Saints All Saints Day until ten years later,

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and then they were in talks with the trilogy, and

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now we're again fifteen years down the road. It's one

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of those things where it kind of goes by the

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wayside when you have such a great movie but you

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don't know how it's going to go, and then you

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hit the box office and it doesn't get the return

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that you want it first, and it kind of makes

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you take that step back and keep you from capitalizing

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on greatness, which I'm glad they're finally doing because John

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excited to see on the big screen yet again.

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Yeah, and think about it, not only that, but behind

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the scenes. You got Gavin O'Connor coming back for the sequel,

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you got Bill Debuke coming back as the writer, so

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you know we're getting the band back together and that's

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a good thing.

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Yeah, absolutely right. And I know everyone saw the little

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snippet and the trailer. JK. Simmons is the one waven

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the note essentially to the accountant. So that's one of

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those things where it's like, Okay, do we get some

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flashbacks with JK? Like I want to see more of

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him as well. Him as Raymond King is just absolutely

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mind blowing. I thought he portrayed the part perfectly and

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I look forward to seeing even if it's just a

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little bit more of him in that role as well.

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Well, we'll get to him. I got. I got one

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more fun thing for you about Ben Affleck. It's not

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just his love of comics that he's putting into this movie.

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He also shares a love of numbers with the character

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I didn't know if you knew this, Garrett. His reputation

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as one of the better known card counters is the

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reason he's been banned from several high profile casinos.

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As it's a hid bit of information I did not.

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Yeah, so it's Yeah, when it comes to blackjack and poker,

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you do not want to sit down at the table

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with Ben. It gets you.

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He'll get you and see he'll coin you out like

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as a scene from the town right there, buddy, I'll

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tell you.

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Right yeah, yeah, you were talking about JK there as

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agent ray King. He's coming off he's coming off hot

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from his Oscar win for Whiplash. Oh, which, yeah, I mean,

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this is one of those guys. His his filmography is

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so extensive. He's a great character actor. He's been a

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great character actor.

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He I think he kind of gets his claim to

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fame with Spider Man playing j Jonah, Yes, sir, But

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then we see a whole other side of him when

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Whiplash comes out.

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You've seen Whiplash, yes, Oh, absolutely masterpiece honestly, and I

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couldn't speak higher of the film.

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Absolutely, Uh love that one. And here he is is

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ray King one year later. So he's kind of a name.

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He's he's this is a reason to go see this movie. Know,

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he's you know, prominently in the trailer and you're like, yeah,

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this is you know, are we going to have like

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a catch me if you can type of scenario where

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he's the agent trying to track down Ben Affleck or

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is there going to be like an alliance between them?

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Love the fact that ultimately we know there is an alliance.

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It's not that he's trying to catch him. He just

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wants to know who he is. And I love that

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about the movie. I love that about his character.

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It's the man he is, his life too, the man

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that asked him that simple question, were you a good father?

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Yeah?

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And after he says I was a lousy agent, and

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he's like, I led a terrible career, but a father

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is one thing I didn't mess up. I was a

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good Yeah, And it just hits home. It's one of

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those things delivered just perfectly by JK. Simmons.

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Jk's great in this Let's talk about some of the

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ladies in this one. Anna Kendrick as Dana Cummings. She works,

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She works for John Letgow. She based her performance on

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her mom, who is a real life accountant. She takes

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the script home, her mom reads it with her and

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explains the math so to speak, and gives her because like,

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you know, one thing, I honestly, watching Anna Kendrick in

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this movie, I just would assume that she was like

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a mathematician super nerd in high school and new you know,

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speed math and strength theory and all that crazy stuff

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that they talk about. Because she is so she speaks

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so casually about it, and like her love for it

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really comes across, you know with the character. Man, I

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don't know, she's absolutely adorable. I love that she's like

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slightly nerdy with her performance.

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Yes, and just so engaging, right, she really is Like

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movies like this, and I wanna I want to say

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the movie was mister Wright if I'm not mistaken her

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and Sam Rockwell. If I'm not mistaken, that could be

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the wrong name of the film, but just the quirkiness

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of her just being so adorable and Sam Rockwell was

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playing a hit man. It's just such a funny little film.

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They've got Riza from the Wu Tang clan in it.

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But it's another one of those roles by her that

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I feel like plays well with the serious character and

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Ben Affleck or Sam Rockwell or whichever it may be.

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She's one of those character actors that I believe gives

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enough subsistence to the role and not only that, but

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does her homework for the role to where it can

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actually compliment what they're doing in the film as well.

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Were you surprised or not surprised at you know what,

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you're watching the chemistry between her and Ben Affleck. You

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know it goes from a kind of awkward, kind of

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cold while they're at the office to the hotel. And

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I almost say, on the scenes, we'll get the scenes

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here in a couple minutes. But were you surprised that

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we never saw the the romantic moment between them because

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we come real close to one and then he kind

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of pulls, he pulls back. I don't know, is the

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movie is a movie missing something because of that or

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is the movie right to leave it alone?

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So I want to say the movie is right to

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leave it alone. But it is one of those things

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when you're in the hotel with him and she's like, well,

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why did you pick this hotel? And he's liked, it's

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got good water pressure. Yeah, it's got better water pressure

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than most. It doesn't have the scratchy towels. And then

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thirdly he's like, I thought you would like it. And

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then they get that close face to face, you feel

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the kiss coming and everything, and then all of a

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sudden he pops up and he puts the whole thing together.

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He figures out you know, who's behind it, the who

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done it moment essentially.

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Yeah, Yeah, I kind of feel like yeah, because he

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even points out that he he has trouble socializing, and

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I kind of feel like he pulls the the rip chord,

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you know, he you know, he feels her getting close,

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he doesn't know what to do, and then his brain

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switches over to this is how they're doing it at

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the at the lab, at the tech place, right. I

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don't know. I regardless, the chemistry between them is fantastic. Well,

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whether it's the awkward stuff and the and the uh

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the the meeting room, or it's the on the run

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stuff where he's he's uh turned, you know, showing like

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all the badass uh skill sets that he has. I

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think it's fantastic between them. Uh, They're not the only

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ones with great chemistry that we talked about JK. Simmons.

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How about Cynthia Adi Robinson. Uh, she's playing the analyst

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Marybeth Medina.

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Oh, she did an absolutely amazing job with her and JK.

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Simmons hot on the trail on that. As soon as

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things start unraveling, she starts deep diving on these nursery rhymes.

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She starts deep diving on the mathematicians, and as soon

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as she figures out that it is someone that's probably

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has a high form of functioning autism, she starts putting

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together the aliases for him, and that's ultimately how she

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kind of cracks the case and finds that last missing

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puzzle piece.

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It's funny. I'm watching this. I love what she's doing

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in the movie. I'm excited that she's back for the sequel,

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and I'm asking myself, like, why, why, where is she?

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How come we we don't have more of her? And

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then it hits me. She's Navia from Spartacus.

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Oh my god.

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I never I just like like this this last watch,

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I was like, you know, and it's I think it's

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probably because I watched Spartacus did a rewatch about a

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month ago. Yeah, this is this is Navia and.

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That's that's uh. Crixis his wife direct Okay, I thought,

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so okay.

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And you know she's h if you're a fan of

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the shit, I know. She's currently featured on Amazon's Lord

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of the Ring series Rings of Power. I haven't got

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into it yet. I planned to it at some point,

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I think. But you know she's doing all right. You know,

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got an Amazon series and a new movie coming, so

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she's doing good. Funny thing. Yeah, you mentioned how she

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kind of uncovers Christian's clever use of aliases. You know,

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he's using famous mathematicians, famous famous autistics. A quick question

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for you, Garrett, Yes, because I love. I love on

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a movie, especially whether if it's a mystery or a thriller,

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and you've got a character who's using aliases, and there's

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always some kind of connection, like what connects all the

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different names? I know, you know, we recently lost Val

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Kilmer and I've been on a Val Kilmer binge. I

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love in the Saint things like nineteen ninety seven, and

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he's using names from like all the famous saints, Catholic saints,

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and that's what you know. And Christian's doing this. I'm like,

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you know, what if I was on the run or

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if I was had a double life, I'm totally doing this.

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I'm gonna use clever aliases. I want to say how

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good of an agent you are, though, because I think

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you're gonna get this. But we'll give we'll get the listeners,

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give them a chance to have a little fun. You're

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tracking me down. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give

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you some names you just stopped me. When you get it,

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you might find me under the names James Duggan, Randy Poffo, oh,

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Theodora Dbasi.

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So we're going classic late seventies, eighties and nineties wrestlers here,

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and we're going with Ted Dbassi. We're going with Randy Savage.

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And what was the first one again, James Duggan, Oh, Hacksaw.

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Jim Duggan Absolutely.

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Yes, from Glenn Falls, New York. Hacksaw.

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I love it, brother.

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Okay, how about you?

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Would you choose three aliases? Let's see here. I'd go

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with Well, I big fan of cinema, of course, big

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fan of classic cinema. So I would go with Bo Darvil.

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I would go with Gator McCluskey, and I would go

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with Sam Whiskey, ad Min Jeff. Are you Burt Reynolds,

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I'm Burt Reynolds.

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Oh yeah, well you've got you know what you've got

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that you've got the look for Bert you can you

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can pull it off? Man, See they did sired Gator.

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I was like, yeah, it's one of my all time favorites.

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Right there.

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Oh, so two more guys I want to I want

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to briefly talk about. Uh, let's let's talk about a

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couple of John's. We got John Liftgal as tech billionaire

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Lamar Blackburn. He's the one who hires the accountant, sets

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sets everything in motion. I love that we get Liftgal

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the gentle, nice guy, and we also get a different

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left goal later. Did you I didn't see that coming

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honestly at first.

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No, No, you're absolutely right. This is a classic John

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left Gal move where he shows up. You're like, okay, well,

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John left Gal, He's definitely not the bad guy. He's

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the guy being taken advantage of.

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Yes, he.

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Wears it so well. It's it's like the mister Rogers

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approach almost comes in wearing a card again. You're like,

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now it's not have already, you're just getting to get

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through the door. But then a lot of people forget

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like classic lift Gal movies like Ricochet with Denzel Washington.

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Oh yeah, he's the maniacal bad guy, so you've always

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got to watch him. It's like a double edged sword

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with him. He's either playing the super charismatic you know,

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fun love and tech billionaire, or he's also playing the

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guy and secretly trading money, building his company larger and

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getting ready to take it public so they make trillions.

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Lyft gal at his worst, he's a serial killer, ruining

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decks life. At his best, he's still trying to, you know,

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stop the town of Beaumont from dancing. You know, he's

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having he's having an affair with Deborah Winger. In terms

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of endearment, you know, you gotta watch Lyft gal Man.

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I mean, this is the guy that took Shrek Swamp

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from him. I mean, I got to tell you you

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got to keep an eye on this guy no matter what.

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You know. You know, some people will will hear this

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and be really happy, really thrilled. Some people like me

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will be sad, you know. And again he's one of

465
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the all time greats. But he recently signed a ten

466
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.680
year deal with Warner Brothers Discovery. I didn't know if

467
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:44.079
you knew this, Garrett. He's playing Dumbledore in their upcoming

468
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:50.160
Harry Potter reboot TV series or reimagination or whatever. They're

469
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:52.359
basically they're remaking Harry Potter, but as a TV SERI

470
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:56.880
like a prestige TV series, and he's Dumbledore. But he's

471
00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:59.160
already said, you know, at his current age, which is

472
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:03.759
seventy nine, he has openly revealed it will most likely

473
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:04.880
be his final role.

474
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:12.440
Oh man, just with so many terrific roles of a lifetime,

475
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:16.440
whether it's even his smaller work like the campaign, him

476
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.880
and Dan Aykroyd being together, he's the Brothers, like absolutely

477
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.599
amazing there, or any of the many roles that we've

478
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.039
already discussed with him and him, it feels like such

479
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:28.359
a crime that we will not get to see so

480
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.400
much more of that great John Lyft gal, whether he's

481
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.160
a villain or if he's one of the good guys

482
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.000
or whatever it may be. It feels like a crime.

483
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.519
But I you know, I'm excited for him. I'm excited

484
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.160
to see the reimagining of the Harry Potter. Of course,

485
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:45.920
you know, it's going to be something huge for him,

486
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:48.119
and of course not all of us can just do

487
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.039
it forever. So I completely get him. Yeah, you know,

488
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.799
eighty nine years old when he bowls out, that's not.

489
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:59.359
Bad, Yeah, Garrett. He he convinced us that he could

490
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.279
kick so the loan's ass on a mountaintop and cliffhanger.

491
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:06.680
He really did I mean, come on, it's just I

492
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:10.240
don't know, like I'm salty about it, just because it's

493
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:14.720
like James Cameron with the Avatar situation. We know the

494
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:21.319
genius that is James Cameron. Yes, but for how many

495
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:25.359
decades have we not received it? Have we not enjoyed it?

496
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:30.640
Because he's in the Avatar world making Avatar two three,

497
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:33.839
and at last count, he's like he's planning to make

498
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:34.799
like six of these things.

499
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.839
It's like, come on, man, I mean, yeah, you get Aliens,

500
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.079
you get Terminator. I mean, you get these great films,

501
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:42.359
and you.

502
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:44.799
Get crue lies, the abyss.

503
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:48.039
Lies that the eraser like he does so many where

504
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.720
you're like, oh I love this film that wait, this

505
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:54.480
is a James Cameron hold on. Yeah, So now you're

506
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:58.720
absolutely right. It's something where you lose this actor, you

507
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:02.759
lose this director, you lose this writer for fifteen years

508
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.000
off to one project, and it's like, I don't know

509
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:09.000
if the trade off is fair for it. I don't know.

510
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:13.079
I don't either. I don't either. Let's move on to

511
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:18.279
another John though John Burenthal playing Braxton, can we just

512
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.240
say I mean the heat check that it's his opening

513
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.920
scene hopping in that guy's car immediately teaching lessons, you know,

514
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.519
about interrupting someone. I fucking love John Burenthal. Like at

515
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:34.759
bottom line, he's never done a bad performance. He's never

516
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:35.720
in a bad movie.

517
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.359
Yeah, in my personal opinion, Nope, you're absolutely right, Jeff.

518
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:44.200
I know he's blowing up right now because of the

519
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:47.920
Daredevil and Punisher back. So like this guy's getting a

520
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.759
lot of traction. The Accountant two's coming out. I mean,

521
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:55.440
it's been a few great years for John Burenthal, whether

522
00:29:55.480 --> 00:30:00.200
it's on television or in cinema, but a few of

523
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:04.680
his roles, especially like this Braxton character, I've absolutely loved

524
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:08.759
over the years, And honestly, one of my favorite parts

525
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:13.359
of this movie is just when he's having the sit down,

526
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.359
probably about the halfway point of this film, and he's

527
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.200
sitting down there with Andy Elmberg, which plays Ed Chilton,

528
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:27.440
the Parker there at the robotics firm, and he's sitting

529
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:29.960
there explaining to him like, hey, we make this look

530
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.480
like an accident and I'll just be on a very

531
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.759
little way. Your wife gets some money, He's like, or

532
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:38.079
you can refuse, and I have to turn this into

533
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.480
a home invasion. And then I go do unspeakable things

534
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:46.079
to your wife. Ed Chilton sitting there shaking, and he's like,

535
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.799
he's like, ah, I'm just kidding. Sometimes I just want

536
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:51.880
to hear myself talk. He's like, I wouldn't do none

537
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.440
of that, but I would park a forty five caliber

538
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:55.400
bull into her brain.

539
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:55.680
Pan.

540
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:01.759
Yeah. It's like, oh man, okay, this that just brilliant

541
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:03.960
every which way with him in this film.

542
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.920
He cooks in every scene he's in because it's just

543
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:13.119
fun to hear him talk, right, And what the great

544
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.759
The great thing about this movie, and you know, spoiler

545
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:19.000
alert because it's been out since twenty sixteen and we

546
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.559
got sequel coming, The great thing about this is they're

547
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:24.960
setting him up as like, oh, this is the guy

548
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.640
that's that's being called in to stop the accountant. You know,

549
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:31.480
we're gonna get a great fight between him and Ben

550
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:35.519
Affleck and the whole while you're getting the ben Affleck's

551
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:39.000
you know, flashbacks about his childhood growing up. He's got

552
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:40.960
a little brother, the little brothers there the whole time.

553
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.079
I gotta be honest, the first time I saw this

554
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.359
in the theater, I wasn't even thinking about that until

555
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:51.279
the reveal at the end when they're like hey, Braxton.

556
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.839
It's like hey Braxton, like you like we I haven't

557
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:56.680
seen you in ten years, like you know, you know,

558
00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.839
I love I love what they're doing. I'm totally believable

559
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.400
as a big brother, little brother.

560
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.680
I think, oh, you're absolutely crack. Yeah, No, totally believable,

561
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.119
big brother, little brother. I got to say, when I

562
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:11.880
saw this in theaters, I did not see it coming

563
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.920
until the point where I want to say it's one

564
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.519
of the henchmen if I'm not mistaken. But it's during

565
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:22.680
the wrap up there when they're coming to of course

566
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:26.000
for John lef Gal and the one calls him a freak,

567
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.359
and then John Burnhal's face when he's looking at the

568
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:32.839
cameras trying to find him and everything, just the disbelief

569
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.240
that he heard the word freaking. I'm like, hold on,

570
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.759
is this this little brother? Like, hold on a second, wait,

571
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:39.039
what do we got cooking here?

572
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.200
Yeah, let's talk about what's cooking. Let's talk a little

573
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:47.279
bit about the film's background. Mentioned Bill Debuke earlier. He

574
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:49.920
created Ozark the year after he did this movie.

575
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:55.880
Now that is a phenomenal piece of entertainment. There racing datement.

576
00:32:56.160 --> 00:33:02.559
Yes, yeah, so my only question is because he He's

577
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.960
done the accountant movies he created, He created Ozark, wrote this,

578
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.079
wrote the bulk of the series. He wrote in twenty fourteen,

579
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.559
he wrote that movie The Judge with Robert down or

580
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:13.319
Robert down Jr.

581
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:13.559
Yep.

582
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:17.440
Yeah, so kind of surprised that this guy is not

583
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:19.680
doing a whole lot more in the past ten years

584
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:21.519
because he's hot man, he's he's a great writer.

585
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:25.000
I think The Judge is one of those movies where

586
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:27.440
it was a sleeper. I don't think a lot of

587
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.000
people knew what it was going to be when it

588
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.640
came out, and then like, you've got Robert Downey Jr.

589
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:35.240
You got Robert Duvall on it.

590
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:36.680
Fall is amazing in it.

591
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:40.680
It's absolutely It's a masterpiece, is what it is. And

592
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.559
I feel like it may have been overshadowed or something

593
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.319
when it come out, But I know it's one that

594
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.440
I did not get to experience in theaters. But I

595
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:51.279
watched it afterward and I was just blown away, and

596
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.359
I was kind of upset that I didn't push myself

597
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:55.079
to go to the theaters and watch this one.

598
00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:00.559
Let's talk about the priceless works of art inside Christian's

599
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:05.559
airstream trailer. So we got Renoise painting a Friend in Need.

600
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:10.800
You've got Jackson Pollock's nineteen forty six painting free Form. Garrett.

601
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.960
You mentioned Action Comics number one, which obviously showcases the

602
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.239
first appearance of Superman. Garret. I'll give you three guesses

603
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.519
which of those I'm taking, but you only need one clearly.

604
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.840
I'll also note though he's got a Luke Skywalker Graphlex

605
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:30.960
flash lightsaber, which I would assume is like we're mentally

606
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.199
that that's one of the screen used once from Empire

607
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:40.320
Strikes Back. Yes, absolutely, Yeah, Honus Wagner baseball card. He's

608
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.599
got All American Comics sixteen, which was the first appearance

609
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:48.440
of Green Lantern, which is huge. Yep, just just I mean,

610
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.880
you see all the stacks of cash and the gold bars,

611
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:52.880
but my brain's immediately go one of the baseball cards

612
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.119
in the comic books, obviously.

613
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.039
So I fanned girls so hard when he opened the

614
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:03.039
drawer and you see that Action Comics never once sitting there,

615
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:08.000
and it's like, oh yeah, I just get so excited

616
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:08.599
about that.

617
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.039
My palms get sweaty. Though every time I watched that

618
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.679
scene where he's like you mentioned him like he's trying

619
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:15.440
to pack up stuff quickly, you know, in his bug

620
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:18.880
out bag. I get so nervous the way he handles

621
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.119
that action comics. Yeah, and like just grabs it thoughts, Oh, like.

622
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.199
Yeah, we're your stomach, a little bit of.

623
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:27.559
Yeah, where's your white gloves? Where's the plastic? Come on, man,

624
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.559
help me out? Uh? Speaking of comics.

625
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:30.880
Uh.

626
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.639
Twenty fifteen, a graphic novel of this film was published

627
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.360
by Vertigo. I'd love to get my hands on that.

628
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:43.360
Oh absolutely, if I can imagine it plays out a lot.

629
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.639
In those graphic novels, I guarantee you get a lot

630
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:50.159
of the same imagery that you get from a couple

631
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.920
of these shows that have been adapted to like Amazon

632
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.760
as of late stuff like The Boys and everything that's

633
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.760
Colleen graphic novels. I'd say you get a lot of

634
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:03.880
that NonStop action, nasty arm break stuff in there. Yeah,

635
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.760
that is something I would absolutely look forward to get

636
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:07.280
my hands on.

637
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.519
You, sir, absolutely. I bet I bet you that put

638
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:12.400
a smile on someone like Berenthal's face. You had a

639
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.400
con you put that down in front of the sign,

640
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:20.000
you know, Oh yeah, I bet I bet Garrett. Let's

641
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:24.039
talk about a couple of scenes in this movie, some

642
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:26.559
noteworthy scenes, if you will, and what we think might

643
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:30.440
be the pivotal moment. Got a couple here to go

644
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:35.639
through with you. Let's talk about target shooting at the farm. So, yes, okay,

645
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.480
farmer watches him set up these three melons. He's like

646
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:40.599
a mile out. I love that though. The Farmer's like,

647
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:45.000
not on my best day. And then Christian takes three

648
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.920
perfect shots. I looked it up. He's using a barrettmmate

649
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.159
to a fifty caliber sniper rifle.

650
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:56.400
Which is an anti aircraft gun.

651
00:36:56.679 --> 00:37:00.159
Yes, the sound it makes, man, and there's nothing, I

652
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.719
mean nothing left in that melon. It's just juice, you know.

653
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.320
No. And a little further into the movie you actually

654
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.119
get to see him use this on some people. But

655
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.039
the fact that you can see the person get hit

656
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.559
by it and then traveled about five seconds after you

657
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:20.679
hear the gun go off, so it is literally breaking

658
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.280
the sound barrier to get to.

659
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:26.079
Yeah, fantastic. It's a fun little scene. I'll tell you

660
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:27.920
one of the scenes I love. I'm not saying this

661
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:31.400
is the pivotal moment, but I love this scene. The

662
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:36.519
crunching numbers montage. How do they make math look so

663
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:37.159
damn cool.

664
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.880
They not only made it look cool, but I think

665
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:43.639
it sucked you into it even more to where you

666
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.880
were more interested in what he was looking at, what

667
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.480
he was finding, because myself and I guarantee a lot

668
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.719
of us out there are not the best with maths.

669
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.039
So when we see all that stuff breaking down, we're

670
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.719
looking at like, I just see something, what is this here?

671
00:37:57.800 --> 00:37:59.840
And then you start deep diving trying to figure out

672
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:01.920
what he's gotta help here on this glass?

673
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:04.559
I love you. I mean he's burned through those dry

674
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.480
race markers and chucking him in the waste paper can. Uh,

675
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.239
and then he's basically he's turning all the glass in

676
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:12.920
the room into art. As far as I'm.

677
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.719
Concerned, you're absolutely right, brother, Uh.

678
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:19.639
I read this. I couldn't believe it because you're watching

679
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:23.079
Ben Affleck writ on the glass, right, We're seeing it's

680
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:28.159
his handwriting. But there's no way he could possibly do

681
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:32.719
that much in that room, that that meeting room. I

682
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.159
looked it up. They actually took a sample of his handwriting,

683
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.880
digitized it and turned it into a font on the computer,

684
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.239
and then they printed out sheets of it so that

685
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.280
he didn't have to do all that writing. How how

686
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:47.639
crazy is that?

687
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:51.440
That is actually pretty freaking cool. I'm not even gonna lie.

688
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:55.039
I did take it to that extreme and like that

689
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.440
next step to where you're like, all right, we're using

690
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:01.400
his handwriting. Let's make this legible. Let's make this one

691
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:04.800
hundred percent accurate. That he's actually done this work here.

692
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:08.280
You know, props to the team and to whoever he

693
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.199
figured out that they needed to do that, you know,

694
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:12.239
good on you for that.

695
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.480
Uh huh. I love the fact too normal people and

696
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:21.599
I use the term I use that term, you know, cautiously. Uh,

697
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:25.400
they're looking at all the writing and they're just kind

698
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.559
of stupefied. They're like what they like? They don't know

699
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.000
what to think. But I love that. Anna Kendrick when

700
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.119
she comes into the office the next day, she's fascinated.

701
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.199
She's like, she's got the biggest smile on her face

702
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.280
and she's like, oh my god, it took me a

703
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:43.000
year to do one month and you did ten years overnight.

704
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.239
And he's like, yeah, I did, but check this out,

705
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:50.920
you know, he to calm. He is love that moment. Man.

706
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.199
I love a good montage. But if you told me

707
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:59.920
a montage about someone writing numbers all over the wa

708
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:04.480
the whiteboards. I'd be like, that's not ain't gonna work.

709
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:06.039
But this, man, this is one. This is one of

710
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.559
the cooler montages. I'm gonna go ahead and say it is.

711
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.159
So you know, like you said, like just the way

712
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.599
Bill wrote this, the fact that this is something that

713
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:20.559
even on paper, there's no way anyone's like, this is

714
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.000
going to be exciting, this is going to be awesome.

715
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.079
Then you actually see it in the movie, like there's

716
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:28.000
no way they read the script like this is going

717
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.559
to be the scene that like you know, makes.

718
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:31.360
It mm hmm.

719
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.039
Then once you see it in the film and you're like,

720
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.920
I couldn't imagine this movie without this scene here it

721
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.800
put It shows how much hard work and dedication he

722
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:44.599
put into it. And then not only that, but also

723
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.039
solved exactly what was happening in a like twelve hours

724
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.199
yeah span of time there, which is pretty damn impressive.

725
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:58.519
It's impressive, dude. As impressive as the mathematics are, the

726
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:02.360
fight sequences in this movie more are all the more so.

727
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:07.159
Let's talk about Christians saving the farmers. Garrett. Never bring

728
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:08.800
a knife to a never bring a knife to a

729
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:09.199
belt fight.

730
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.119
No Tate Fletcher learned that the hard way.

731
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:14.039
Man.

732
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.599
I can't help but laugh at the first time he

733
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:19.000
whips that assassin in the face with his belt, and

734
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.599
that guy he just barely honibles what the fuck like

735
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:24.480
he does like did I just get hit in the

736
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:25.440
face with his belt?

737
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:30.280
You know that guy right there, He's one of the

738
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:35.039
new like henchmen of like our time, Like every now

739
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.760
and then, like we'll get these people where you're like,

740
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:39.719
hold on, I've seen this guy in something else and

741
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.760
they always play a very similar character. So that is

742
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.960
Tate Fletcher. If you look this guy up, he has

743
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.400
done a you know, so many films where he is

744
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.320
just Okay, me and this other guy, we're gonna go

745
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.519
kidnap somebody. He is always that character in every movie

746
00:41:56.519 --> 00:42:01.800
and unlortunately he meets his demison about every single one. Uh.

747
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:04.840
The The martial arts used in the movie is a

748
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:10.679
form of pinchack salot, which it incorporates striking, grappling, and weaponry.

749
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:15.559
It's from Indonesia, apparently, I'll tell you something. This style

750
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.840
of fighting also prominently on display in a movie we're

751
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.599
covering next week. And I'm pretty sure our friend and

752
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:27.639
Patreon remember James Buckley knows which one I'm talking about,

753
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.880
So more more on that later, But I bet James

754
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.519
is smiling right now because he know he knows what

755
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:36.320
movie I'm talking about. Moving on, though, Garrett, I want

756
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.079
to talk about There's two more scenes I want to

757
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:40.360
talk about, but right now I want to talk about

758
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:42.599
what I feel is the pivotal moment, and I'm talking

759
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:47.079
about the prom dress story. How how Dana relates to

760
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:50.199
Chris so throughout the hotel. You know, they're on the

761
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:53.119
run at this point he saves her. They're in this

762
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:57.239
really nice hotel. Uh, and she's kind of like, how

763
00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:59.280
how do you? How did you? How do you do

764
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.639
what you just did? Because he he dispatches, like how

765
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:04.039
many guys in her apartment?

766
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:08.719
Oh? Yeah, like just obliterates them standard chance.

767
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.880
So, you know, he kind of explains his upbringing, you know,

768
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.039
military dad arranges for him to be trained by various experts.

769
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.920
He's basically turning his son into Batman as far as

770
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:23.000
I'm gonna ten. But they relate through you know, they're

771
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:26.320
talking about speed, math and accounting, and she shares this

772
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:29.760
story about this vera Wang prom dress that she wanted,

773
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.760
you know, and she she just, you know, he wants

774
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:36.320
to be seen as normal, and she just wanted to

775
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.199
walk into the prom and hear everyone say wow. And

776
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:41.159
that's that's her way of finding a way to connect

777
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:42.920
to people, you know, kind of how Christian does. And

778
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.800
I love that she uses the prom dress story to

779
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.559
show him that that they are pretty much alike. You know.

780
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:54.079
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right to find that common ground,

781
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.679
to find that what you were seeking to find normality

782
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.079
when you're growing up. And you know, for both of

783
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.599
them it was drastically different things, of course, but they

784
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.119
were both looking for the same feeling at the end

785
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.679
of the day. And whether it's a fourteen hundred hours

786
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.039
prom dress or trying to get a handle on your

787
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:16.400
sentry overload. Absolutely, I just.

788
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:17.880
Think it's great too. And you you kind of talked

789
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:20.360
about this when we were talking about Anna Kendrick earlier.

790
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.000
I love that, you know, Gavin O'Connor does such a

791
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:27.159
great job with his directing here, and their performances are

792
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.480
great because you're leaning in, You're like, this is the

793
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.880
moment they're gonna the kisses the kid. You know, why'd

794
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:33.599
you pick this hotel?

795
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:33.760
Oh?

796
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.599
It's good, good, good water pressure but you know, she's like,

797
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.360
the holiday inn has good water pressure. He's like, I

798
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:39.880
wanted you to like it. You know, he's trying to

799
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:43.559
impress her, and you're like and then you're like, oh, like, yep, nope,

800
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:44.880
ain't gonna happen for him.

801
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:46.880
Never got the kiss, Yeah, never.

802
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:48.760
Got the kiss. But I listen, I think we did

803
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:52.639
get the pivotal moment here because this was you know,

804
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:55.360
why is he going out of his way to save

805
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.960
this girl, protect this girl? You know, his his contact,

806
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.079
you know, his handler, uh even puts points it out.

807
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:05.639
She's like, you don't owe this girl anything. Pack up,

808
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:07.960
get out of here. They know who you are. But

809
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.679
he there's a connection between the two, there's chemistry. He

810
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:15.039
sees it, you know, Dana sees it. You know. I

811
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:18.480
love the moment for him. You know, it's a will

812
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:21.480
they won't they moment that that really works without the

813
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.119
use of, you know, the cliche of oh now they're

814
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:26.920
you know, how many times have you seen an action

815
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.559
movie like this where the guy and the girl they're

816
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:31.079
gonna have that moment they hook up, and then in

817
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:33.800
the morning they're they're leaving, but now they're together. You know,

818
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:35.920
I'm glad that. I'm glad that they don't. They don't

819
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:37.039
do it honestly.

820
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:41.119
Because honestly, if this was nineteen eighty six, they go ahead,

821
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:44.039
they do that. They did. Oh yeah, then for the

822
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.280
last twenty minutes he's got her with him and they're

823
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:49.840
and then they're John west Gal's house fighting them out.

824
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.079
Yeah, this is eighty six. These two. There's there's a

825
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.440
there's blue lighting. It's a Tony Scott movie. Oh and

826
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.000
you know, and there's a there's a there's a a

827
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.960
top forty that that that. Yeah, something's happening. All right, Gary,

828
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:04.920
one more scene. I don't know what you uh, I

829
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:06.360
don't know what your pivotal moment is, but I got

830
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:07.800
one more scene. Maybe this might be it for you.

831
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:08.679
Uh.

832
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:13.239
Let's talk about Ray King's first meeting with the accountant.

833
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:18.239
He's explaining, he's basically giving us the backstory as he's

834
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:23.079
explaining to Medina Agent Medina, he's where he's filling us in, like, oh, okay,

835
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.199
they were there at the mob hit. You know when

836
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.559
this guy takes out like nine got nine people dead,

837
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:33.599
he's spared, And since then he's been feeding Ray intel

838
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:37.559
that that builds his entire career, right, uh. I love

839
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:41.320
that he explains the accountant's moral code. You know, if you,

840
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:44.840
if you, if you violate his moral code, he's nothing

841
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:47.719
can save you, right, and he tells Medina, you know

842
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.920
his time, Hey, my time's a most up. But when

843
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:54.400
she calls, someone needs to answer of the phone because

844
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:58.239
he's just giving the intel that you know, make just

845
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:02.239
career launch. You know, situations happened.

846
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:06.880
I think you're absolutely right, and you know, to to

847
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.920
kick that off. Later in the film, they go ahead

848
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.480
and wrap up of why Ben Affleck was there in

849
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:17.039
the first place to take out the gangster and is

850
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:22.000
because again he shared connections with very few people throughout

851
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.119
his entire life, you know, and that's why he's on

852
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.079
this war path now to protect and Nick Kendrick instead

853
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:31.559
of just flaying town. Of course, that being the friendship

854
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.920
that while he was in prison after his arrest and everything,

855
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:40.800
he became friends with an amazing actor. Absolutely loved him

856
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:42.599
and several things Jeffrey.

857
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.159
Chamber I forgot about him.

858
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.880
That dude is amazing. Played Francis Silverbird, but taught him

859
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.159
everything you needed to know about forensic accounting. And you know,

860
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:56.519
he worked for the Gambino crime family and everything like that,

861
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.639
so it kind of like helps you build that care connection.

862
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:02.960
You're like, oh, wait, he did have a connection. He

863
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:07.119
wasn't just mindlessley like at this hotel like yep off

864
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.679
on a random job. Is because somebody took something from

865
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:14.840
him that he would never get back, and with making

866
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:18.480
so little connection acrossed his life, he felt that they

867
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:22.000
owed him a pound of flesh. So he went after

868
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.119
him and that creates that first pivotal moment. And I

869
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:27.360
think you're right. I think this is the pivotal moment

870
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.400
of the film. Okay, And yeah, I think you're right

871
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.840
because with JK. Simmons and Ben Affleck coming together for

872
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.679
the first time on screen, and if I'm not mistaken,

873
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:40.719
it's the only time their past actually cross all the

874
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:41.440
screen together.

875
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:44.239
That's it, not even a phone call.

876
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:48.119
Exactly for you to have these two Titanic heavyweights just

877
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:51.440
back and forth once hot on the trail, like you said,

878
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.960
catch me if you can. Almost they're never in the

879
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.880
same room except for in that scene. And I think

880
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:02.719
with everything ben Affleck's character was going through, Christian Wolf

881
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:06.039
was going through in those moments, and he sees this

882
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:10.480
man and he stops before pulling the trigger and doing

883
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:13.480
something mind was. He goes ahead and asks him a

884
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:18.360
few simple questions and JK. Simmons Raymond King gives him

885
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:21.719
the answers that he's looking for because it does not

886
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:25.079
go against his moral code. One of the only things

887
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:28.760
Ben Afflex character is known in the film is what

888
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.559
a great father looked like. And as soon as he says,

889
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:34.880
I've done a lot of bad things and made a

890
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:36.840
lot of mistakes in my life, but I was a

891
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:40.880
good father, that is everything. Yeah, that is something that

892
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:43.840
bonds those two characters right there. And like I said,

893
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:48.000
for it being a two hour and sixteen minute long movie,

894
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:51.039
if I'm not mistaken, for them to share a screen

895
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:54.239
time of maybe three to four minutes in that hallway,

896
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.000
it's it's mind blowing. But I feel like that is

897
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:01.920
a moment that builds that film like astronomically, like more

898
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:03.480
than anything else could.

899
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:05.000
Good call man, good call?

900
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:05.360
Uh?

901
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:07.840
All right, I'll tell you what. Let's let's take one

902
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.960
last break. When we come back, we'll start wrapping things up.

903
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:16.800
Sounds good, So, Garrett, let's just uh, let me let

904
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:20.480
me break this down for you. Let's imagine someone has

905
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:24.599
watched The Accountant. They absolutely loved it. They go to

906
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:29.320
you and they say, hey, this guy, Gavin O'Connor, I

907
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:33.599
love this movie. What else? What else should I watch? What?

908
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:38.519
What would your three recommendations be to someone wanting more

909
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:39.960
of Gavin O'Connor.

910
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.400
So if they've already seen The Accountant, I'm going to

911
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:46.800
of course put that at top of my list already.

912
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:51.039
But another great movie he did back in twenty eleven.

913
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:52.719
The Warrior Warrior.

914
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:57.320
Yes, absolutely, it was ahead of its time. You know,

915
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.800
that's when MMA first started blowing up one one ed

916
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.000
part of it. And it's one of those things I

917
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.599
don't think we really necessarily got a lot of where

918
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.599
like we had the never back downs and things like that. Yeah,

919
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:13.840
but I think The Warrior is something or Warrior not

920
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:18.199
The Warrior. Warrior did something so amazing because you got

921
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:22.880
Tom Hardy and Joel Edgarton in it, yep, and both

922
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:26.480
of their acting is just top notch. It's a masterpiece

923
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:30.519
to watch, and I think it's just beautifully directed. It's

924
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:33.719
one of those things that again I would not have

925
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.280
one bad word to say about that film.

926
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.039
You better not are being You're gonna get in the octagonies.

927
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:43.960
This is you know, you got Hardy and Edgerton. They're

928
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:48.199
playing a strange sons to Nick Nolty's OSCAR nominated performance

929
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:51.760
as an alcoholic father. And I don't care what you say.

930
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:53.960
He was robbed. He should have got the Academy Ward

931
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:57.159
for this performance. When he when he has that breakdown

932
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:01.840
with the the Moby dick on Hape, Tom Hardy kind

933
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:05.039
of has to put into bed. Dude. That's that's It's

934
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:06.880
just it's heartbreaking, but.

935
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.559
It's a heart ranching You're absolutely right.

936
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.039
It's this is a modern day Rocky though set in

937
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:15.159
the world of M M A. I'll tell you right now,

938
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:17.599
you'll it's It's on my all time top ten list

939
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:21.719
because if you have a brother, the end of this

940
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.159
movie and you know what I'm talking about, Like, every

941
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:28.320
time I watch this, I tear up. I immediately want

942
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:31.000
to call my brother and and just talk to him.

943
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.719
I want to go find him and hugg him. This one, man,

944
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:38.599
it pulls at your heartstrings. Jennifer Morrison I talked to

945
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:41.320
her a couple of years ago, and uh, you know,

946
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:43.559
everyone was talking. You know, she was she was doing

947
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:46.840
a thing for What's the ABC show? She had the

948
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:47.719
fairy tale thing.

949
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:49.519
Oh my goodness.

950
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.119
Uh you know what I'm talking about, right, Yep, yep,

951
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:55.480
I'm the I'm the one. I'm the one schmuck there.

952
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.039
That's like, can we talk about Warrior for a minute.

953
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.480
But she lived up, dude. She was like, oh my, like,

954
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.880
it was so much fun to work with Joel, and

955
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:07.960
Gavin's this visionary director. He's so amazing. You know, she

956
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:09.639
had she had a lot of anything to say about Gavin,

957
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:12.519
But we'll move on. Okay, we got you got. Warrior

958
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:15.519
definitely would be one of my picks.

959
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:20.239
Else Now, number two would have to be something he

960
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:24.760
did at the very beginning of his directorial career. Okay,

961
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.280
a little movie that had Kurt Russell in it. Oh yeah,

962
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.679
you may know. It's called Miracle.

963
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:31.480
Two thousand and four.

964
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:35.519
Oh yeah, you cannot go against this movie. It's it's

965
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:38.760
such a great story with an amazing actor in it,

966
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:42.800
and you know, it's just one of those things where

967
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.440
it almost feels like you win when you watch the movie,

968
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:49.599
because it shows you how pivotal that moment was in

969
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:53.880
American history. Oh got and I think the way he

970
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:58.280
directed Kurt Russell, which is of course an amazing actor,

971
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:00.880
but I feel like the way that that he directed

972
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.840
Kurt Russell. I feel like he embodied that role so

973
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:06.760
much that you believed you were actually watching this on

974
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:11.679
live TV. Windows unfolding because you believe this story so

975
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:14.880
much that it actually transports you back to the eighties

976
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:15.880
when this is happening.

977
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:19.920
One of the greatest sports movies of all time, maybe

978
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:22.159
the greatest hockey movie of all time.

979
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:23.559
I can see that.

980
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:26.519
You gotta be in the conversation, right, You're right, yes, sir.

981
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.880
Did you know the arena in Vancouver where they shot

982
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.440
the final game against the Soviets was the same arena

983
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:38.920
used for another great USA versus USSR showdown? You know

984
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:39.639
what I'm talking about?

985
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:42.159
I do not not off the top of my head. Man,

986
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:45.239
are we hold on? Are we talking Rocky? Right now?

987
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:50.039
We are talking about Balboa versus Draft nineteen. That is

988
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:55.480
the exact same arena. Miracle and Rocky for Sharon, Sharon,

989
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:56.920
A little DNA there for you. I thought you, I

990
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:57.559
thought you gave.

991
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:02.679
That is absolutely brilliant. Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah, I'm

992
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:04.320
really hoping he did this on purpose.

993
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:09.639
Now he had to, I'll tell you. Okay, so your

994
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:12.519
your two picks in and we are two for two.

995
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.400
Because that's that's the two that I would give. I'm curious.

996
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.800
So your third suggestion someone looking for a Gavin O'Connor film,

997
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:20.400
What else you got?

998
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:21.679
Now?

999
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:23.159
I got one. I don't know if you've seen it.

1000
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:26.239
Yeah, let's hear it, all right.

1001
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:30.800
So in twenty twenty he does. He reunites with Ben

1002
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.880
Affleck movie called The Way Back. Have you seen this one?

1003
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:36.079
I have not seen this one.

1004
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:41.960
This is it's the heartbreaking thing here is that COVID

1005
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:44.719
killed it right. This is it was coming out right

1006
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:48.840
when everyone had to mask up. The world shut down,

1007
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:51.440
and it just it had no chance. So you know,

1008
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:54.000
went straight to streaming and a lot of people just

1009
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:57.119
missed it, you know, but uh, I gotta be honest.

1010
00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:02.320
It is basketball drama done right. Ben Affleck, his character Jack,

1011
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:04.920
He he like he had it all before, losing everything

1012
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:08.320
to alcoholism. But he finds his redemption when he gets

1013
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:12.000
he you know, basically, he grows up. He's struggling with alcoholism,

1014
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:14.880
and he gets a chance to coach at his old

1015
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:18.880
high school and you know, the ragtag team. You know,

1016
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:20.440
he's gonna teach him how to be great and then

1017
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.480
they're gonna, you know, go and win the championship basically.

1018
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:26.280
But you know, the thing is this, this ended up

1019
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:30.119
becoming really personal for Ben because he was going through

1020
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:33.760
the same struggles with alcohol that his character was. I mean,

1021
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:36.719
they are, Garrett, They're in pre production and he falls

1022
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:40.960
off the wagon. Gavin O'Connor gets a phone call from

1023
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:45.800
Ben's ex, Jennifer Garner and says, listen, he's just he

1024
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:48.519
just he just checked into rehab. You got to put

1025
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:52.159
the movie on hold, and it's important to him, and

1026
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.000
Gavin's like, I don't know if the studio is good

1027
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:55.360
with this. I don't know if we can do this,

1028
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:58.440
and She's like, Gavin, one of the only things he

1029
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:02.679
took to rehab was a basketball. You gotta give him

1030
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:08.000
some time. And Garrett, he starts shooting the movie the

1031
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:12.440
same day he leaves rehab. So it's a really personal

1032
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:16.119
film for him. And it's a great film. Honestly, you know,

1033
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:18.320
especially whether you know the backstory or not, it's I

1034
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:20.719
think it's a really good movie. I'd recommend it to anybody.

1035
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:26.000
I absolutely love that answer. And honestly, Ben Affleck is

1036
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:29.199
one of those dudes that I'm like pulling for so

1037
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:33.840
hard in Hollywood. He is just one of those dudes.

1038
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:37.159
He's like, it's such a creative mind, a great director.

1039
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:42.320
Any character role you put him in just absolutely kills

1040
00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:45.400
it every time. And you know, I know he had

1041
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:48.679
his like fallout with Warner Brothers and everything like that

1042
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:54.679
because of you know, the same situation we're just talking about. Now.

1043
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:57.159
One thing I am excited. I'll just toss this in

1044
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:02.880
here real quick is James running the DC universe bringing

1045
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:07.280
Ben Affleck back to write a film. And he's actually

1046
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:11.199
signed on to do a film. They haven't announced exactly

1047
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:14.360
what he signed on to be writing for, but ben

1048
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.760
Affleck will be playing a part like in writing and

1049
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:21.000
creating some of the new DC material, which I know

1050
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:25.840
he's absolutely loved the idea of a Batman and death

1051
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:27.760
Stroke fight Steam and.

1052
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:31.079
Yeah, yeah, he was gonna write. He was gonna write

1053
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:34.480
and direct that, right. Yeah, Listen, I love the guns

1054
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:36.639
involving him. I know we're not gonna seem as Batman,

1055
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:39.360
but man, if he writes something and then we could

1056
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:41.199
get him to direct something because he's a hell of

1057
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:44.360
a director. We have never covered him, We've never covered

1058
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:45.840
him on a film by but I think we need

1059
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:48.840
to at some point. He's got a couple of underrated movies.

1060
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:53.480
You're you're correct. I mean even from his super early

1061
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:56.920
work with like Kevin Smith or Dazelny Confused or whatever

1062
00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:03.920
it may be. It's it's always his character either touches

1063
00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.440
you in a way where you're like, I love this

1064
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:09.400
guy all right, he's doing the right thing, or he's

1065
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:12.440
playing obanion and you're like, oh gosh, I can't stand

1066
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:13.840
this guy.

1067
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:18.480
Well, I'll tell you what I know. We love him

1068
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:22.639
in The Accountant uh currently streaming on max if you

1069
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:25.039
if you want to check it out for your a rewatcher,

1070
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:28.920
a first time watch. Also, Oh and is that where

1071
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:31.440
you watched? Is that what you call it? Yes, sir, okay,

1072
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.800
I gotta think that you what you uh, you're you're

1073
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.760
gonna you're gonna recommend this one of the people, right, Oh.

1074
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:42.079
And I could not recommend it any higher. Absolutely. Yeah.

1075
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:45.440
Well, while it may not paint an entirely accurate or

1076
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:49.679
authentic picture of the challenges of living with autism, it

1077
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:53.920
does deliver on the action, the tension, the powerhouse performances

1078
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:57.440
of a very seasoned cast from Kendrick to Lithgal. As

1079
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.800
far as I'm concerned, I got I gotta shout this out.

1080
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:04.079
The four K Blu ray is available and recommended. I

1081
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:06.880
might add it's you know, I know it's on my shelf,

1082
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:12.000
but just a fantastic film, man really is Listeners, what

1083
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.159
do you think of the Accountant? Have you seen it?

1084
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:17.559
Are you heading to the theater this weekend? To see

1085
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:20.400
the long awaited sequel? You can let us know on

1086
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:23.159
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1087
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:26.159
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1088
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:29.079
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1089
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:31.719
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1090
01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:34.320
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1091
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:38.000
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1092
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:39.920
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1093
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:43.039
Swag Garrett. I want to thank you man. I think

1094
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:46.320
you did a great job today and I'm confident our

1095
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:47.480
listeners will feel the same way.

1096
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:51.159
Thank you. I appreciate that, Jeff, and I'm glad to

1097
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:53.599
be here. I'm glad you guys had me on. So yeah,

1098
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:55.159
I look forward to it again sometime.

1099
01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:55.320
Bro.

1100
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:55.599
Yeah.

1101
01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:57.840
Well, hey, I gotta say, there's always room in the

1102
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:00.599
studio for the mic if you like to join us.

1103
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:03.880
So we're gonna have to make that happen, I think. Meanwhile,

1104
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.159
though we're a couple of days away, what you said

1105
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.559
about catching a sneak preview of the accountant too, I.

1106
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:13.440
Would be one hundred and ten percent on board with this, sir. Yes,

1107
01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:14.000
all right.

1108
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:17.599
Well, as David Burns likes to say, I'll buy the

1109
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:21.199
tickets if you buy the popcorn. So to all of

1110
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:25.239
you listening out there, following us on social media, subscribing

1111
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:27.519
to our Patreon, we thank you.

1112
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:36.199
I cannot see, but I know you will. But you

1113
01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.480
can't loud on me with all these books at yourself.

1114
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:47.320
I'm not trying to follow you to the end of

1115
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:55.599
the world. I'm just trying to leave something fine.