May 18, 2026

Gore Verbinski - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

Gore Verbinski - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

Depp & Marsden Month continues! David sets sail with Amber and Angela to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Gore Verbinski's 2006 swashbuckling sequel, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest! Why is the rum always gone? This episode is...

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Season 7
Depp & Marsden Month continues!


David sets sail with Amber and Angela to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Gore Verbinski's 2006 swashbuckling sequel, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest! Why is the rum always gone?

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Yo ho ho Across the open seas, we sail chasing

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grand adventure in the promise of bury treasure or in

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this tale, a chest brimming not with gold but with heart.

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There's just something magical about these big, epic, swashbuckling adventures.

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The conger heroes trek across the distant lands in pursuit

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of a coveted mcguffin, all while a villain or two

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nips at their heels. When the story is strong, it

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becomes downright irresistible. Would you, ladies agree? Oh?

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Heck yah?

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Well, in this episode we're diving headfirst into the world

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of pirates, the open seas, a splash of rum, the

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mighty Kraken, a wild sword fight or two Davy Jones

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himself and of course the one and only Captain Jack Sparrow. So, ladies,

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let's let's set sail into a film by Gore Rabinsky

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and his two thousand and six film Pirates of the Caribbean.

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Dead Man's Chest.

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Come to Negotia and I have you your swimmy kit.

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But I gotta da, I gotta and guess.

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What's inside it?

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Welcome everyone, This is a film by I'm David Burns.

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I'm Amber Lewis, I'm Angelain Arris.

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Well, ladies, it is good to be back with you.

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I believe the last time we were together that was

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the master piece Frankenstein, was it not seen?

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Yes?

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Yes, that was always a That was a fantastic one.

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That was fun, so much fun.

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It really was. Well, oh, so young then so young,

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so young. But now we are selling the open Seas

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with pirates. Yea, you know, so I'm looking forward to

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diving into this film with the both of you. So

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let's board the Black Peril and begin this epic adventure

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across the open seas. So three things about this director

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end A quote that you may not know, or some

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people may not know that's listening to this. Gore Verbinsky

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was born in oak Ridge, Tennessee, where he lived with

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four siblings and get this, his nuclear physicist father what

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yes yeah. Before moving to southern California, Gore started off

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as a musician and played in several rock bands before

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becoming a film.

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Director punk rock band, punk.

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Rock band, yunk rock, punk rock, and Verbinsky moved from

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music videos to commercials, where he worked for many brand

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names Nike, Coca Cola, Cannon, Skittles, You know airlines, and

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the one is the most famous for Budweiser, because if

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you remember, Ladies, the commercial with the frogs who croak

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the brand name.

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Mm hmm, yes, that's amazing.

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I still can't get past that he like, isn't from

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Czechoslovakia or someplace like a guy with the name Gorda

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Rubinsky was born in Tennessee.

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Tennessee, that's right, Oak Ridge, of all places, that's right.

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Well a quote from him, and I found this quite interesting.

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So he says, my agent called and said, how do

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you feel about a pirate movie? I mean, how often

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are you going to get that call? It's sort of

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the singular most failed genre of our time, but I

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thought it had to be attempted one more time. I

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think there's something rebellious about pirates, something revolutionary about them.

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They came out of a time when things were oppressive.

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You could get hung for stealing a loaf of bread.

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For me, the Pirates films are about when it's right

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to break the rules to achieve what you want. And

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clearly he breaks the rules and quite a bit in

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these films, especially this. Absolutely Yes, So Ladies, I'm kind

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of interested. So the five words synopsis I'm excited about this.

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You go first, please.

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Okay, So this is one of my favorite lines from

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the movie, so I just worked it in because I

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hate these damn five word synopsis. So I just did

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this one because I love it. Mine is Jack has

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a jar of dirt?

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Are you going to give it back?

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No?

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This is my dirt. I love how I get so

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protective of it. No, it's mine.

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I like it.

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But he improvised when he said I'm gonna charge, I'm

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judge looking at him like he was nuts because he

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just like made that up on the spot, which which.

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Is so unbritt Yeah, because a lot of this was

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just bored from Johnny Depp, but you know, building on

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top of you know, the the skeletals, you know, structure

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of the character by the writers, and then he just, yeah,

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made it complete this own.

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So yeah, I mean, come on, Jack Sparrow would not

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be who he is if it wasn't for Johnny Depp. Oh.

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Absolutely, And and I can't wait till I can mentioned

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some other ones that were up for that role.

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I was like, that would be so weird video.

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We'll get there, all right, Angela, your turn, all right.

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I went with this one swashbuckling pirates with barnacles.

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I like it, so I went with I went really simple.

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I put Captain Sparrow oz a debt. Oh that's good

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because he does.

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Yeah.

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I kind of like this, but I know you may not,

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but uh, it's kind of This is kind of fun

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because how do you narrow down this is what a

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two and a half hour film into five words?

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I mean, yeah, there's a lot going on. Yeah, multiple

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threads we could.

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Pull here, Oh my goodness, yes we can. I mean

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there is so much in this film, and you know,

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I hadn't seen it for a really long time. Yeah,

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so sitting un to watch this, I remember enjoying it.

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I mean, nothing's really gonna be the first one. Let's

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be honest. That one caught everybody by surprise. It was

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so good. It's uh yeah, but I still think this

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was a decent follow up. Yeah, you know, I mean

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there's some very epic scenes in this, and let's be honest,

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we all wanted to see Johnny Depp again as Jack Sparrow.

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Oh absolutely, yeah, that's key about this, so getting to

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see him explore that character again. But the way the

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movie begins, it's kind of depressing. Is it not?

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Yes, and if if you're like me, it's hard to

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watch that scene and think of like Atlantis, Morris said,

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it's like ray yea.

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Well, and especially when we have.

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Capping everything the minute he gets to the island of Pelagustus.

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So we could just cut all that out and start

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the movie should start with Will looking for Jack, montage

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of scenes of him asking people like, yes, the last

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place you saw him? You know, like that's where it

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should start, and just drop us right into the middle

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of it.

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Yeah, because we wouldn't have needed all of that because

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it obviously we would get that from when Kiera Knightley

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confronts Cutler about uh.

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Yeah, money, and it makes Beckett look a lot more

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like an interesting adversary and more intimidating that she's holding

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him at gunpoint.

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He does not care. Yeah, So you know, other than

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you get this.

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Weird like opening scene with him and and Will, it's

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like whatever, you know, he's in a completely different movie.

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There's a lot of wasted space at the beginning of

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this film. I definite would agree with Yeah, And yet

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this movie should have been about two hours long and

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it would have been perfect. And that's about a half

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hour right there, they could have literally got.

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Rid of yeah, and you would not have missed it,

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no at all.

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I had to break it up in like two nights.

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I was like, oh my god, I can't keep I

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don't have the stamina for this anymore.

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I paused it last night so I could use the bathroom,

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and I was like, oh my god, we still have

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ninety minutes.

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Yes, Like I can't do this.

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Yeah, I'm in bed. Yeah. When I looked at the time,

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I was.

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Like, I'm gonna just restart tomorrow.

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Man, I can't.

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You know. I watched this late at night too, but

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I didn't have a problem getting through it. But I

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hadn't seen it so long, and I was just I

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was just, you know, I really don't want to get

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through it for one thing, you know, but yeah, I

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forgot how that the native scene, I'm telling you, when

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he's bouncing on that trying to get off the choir.

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I laughed hysterically every damn time.

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And you gotta wonder, like how much of that was

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actually you know, just you know, wonderfulness by accident, yeah,

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you know, with that and then then throw in the balls,

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oh yeah, yeah.

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And he's like, we got to get to the pearl

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because we need a full crew.

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And the guy's like, actually, actually, well they need like

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six people, and then they just look at each other like, oh.

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My god, that was pretty good. I mean, there's a

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lot of craziness going on here, obviously, you know, but

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it was still a lot of fun. It really was.

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And then how how Jack Sparrow was talking to the

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natives and and how he's trying to like weasel his

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way out of things, and it just I mean, that's

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who he is, right, and it was just it was

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just there for everybody to witness with you. It was

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just so good.

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Well, and I messaged you guys last night. Every single

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time because we don't watch this one very often. Every

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single time we do, my son has to reassure me

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that yes, the dog does survive, Yes, sim off down

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the beach. I'm like, yeah, always, and he makes it

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it's okay, he's gonna.

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Be all right.

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You do what you want with the humans, but don't

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kill the dogs alone.

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There's a website called does the Dog Live? And I

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have to check it every time because yeah, I'm not

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going otherwise.

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Yeah I can't because that'll just immediately pull me out

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of everything, I'm like, nope, none.

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No, It's funny you mentioned it because years ago there

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was like two major rules you never broke in a film.

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One you never kill a kid and two you never

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kill an animal. Evidently that rule has been thrown out

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years ago because it happens more often than then it

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get used to, right, I mean I.

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Think definitely the former more so than the latter.

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Yeah, yeah, it's crazy because.

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Then you know, yeah, and then when they took the

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twist of you know, John Wick, and that was basically

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you you don't mess with my animals, and you know,

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at least they were uh careful about the cinematography with that,

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they were that delicate. So because because before watching that,

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I'm like, I love canteries. It looks great, but I

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was like, but I heard about that part. My brother's like, yes,

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it does happen, but they don't show it, and I'm like, okay,

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I think I can.

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And then just knowing that all right now he's going

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on a rampage against these and.

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At first because you mess with my dog, and I'm like, hi,

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let's do it on board.

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Let's I think we all could agree with John Wick

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on that one. Yes, but yeah. So, I mean, there's

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a lot of great stuff that happens in this and

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we'll get to that. One of our favorite scenes coming

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up about this, So I'll tell you what. Let's go

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ahead and take our first break. When we come back,

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we'll start talking about this cast and crew. All right, everybody,

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welcome back. Where Amber, Angela and I are talking about

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Pirates of the Caribbean's Dead Man's Chest. So let's talk

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about this cast and crew. We've already mentioned the man

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the myth, Johnny Depp playing Captain Jack Sparrow. I'm not

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going to make that mistake, by the way, I'm captain

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in there. So let's let's talk a lot a little

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bit about him. One thing is interesting, Amber, you brought

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up the history about Jack Sparrow, his background. I don't

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know if a lot of people know about this, so

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please enlighten us about this character.

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My son has been obsessed with the Pirates movies since

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they came out, so he does a lot of like

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deep dies and stuff. And he was telling me that

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the whole situation with Jack owing a debt to Davy Jones.

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Fell apart like this.

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Jack was a privateer for the East India, trading company

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and was tasked with transporting a ship full of cargo.

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Upon discovering that the cargo was actually one hundred slaves,

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Sparrow absconded with the ship, the Wicked Wench, and set

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the slaves free. Cutler Beckett's career suffered as a result,

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and he had Jack branded a pirate for stealing the

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ship full of slaves. What's more, he had the Wicked

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Wench burned and sunk Jack's beloved ship. So grieving the

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loss of the Wicked Wench, Jack then made a deal

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with Davy Jones. Jones agreed to raise the ship and

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allowed Jack to captain it for thirteen years in exchange

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for Jack's service aboard the Flying Dutchman for one hundred years.

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The ship's hull was permanently blackened by the flames, so

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Jack renamed it the Black Pearl and set off once

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more with little option but piracy thanks to Beckett's mark.

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Wow, that's why is that not in the movie?

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This is what I'm saying, Like this yeah is like

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four hundred hours long.

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Yeah, we could have had like a fifteen minute flashback

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at the longest to fill us in on this, Like,

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like we love Captain Jack.

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But you just love him more.

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Now, right because you have more of that story on

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his side, like hey, he you know, yeah, that.

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Would have made a better opening to this film, yeah,

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than what we got.

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And again from that to Will looking for him, like yeah, man,

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oh so mad.

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Listen up, Disney, you need to have us on your

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development team for the potential of a six one.

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I don't know if that's like a legit thing yet

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or not, but.

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Yeah, of course you know nowadays like what's ai, what's fake,

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and what's not? So until I actually see it in

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a trailer in a movie theater, I kind of don't

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believe it, but nowadays, but yes, that that.

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That's such excellent story stuff.

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And that's quite a treat. Thank you for bringing that? Yes,

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because I didn't.

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I was so excited, like I was hanging on limbs

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every word. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.

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Why was the movie?

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Yeah? That, because that would have hadded more weight of

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like where did this little worm come from?

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You know with such a.

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I mean, I mean we get why, you know, part

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of it, but yes, that would have added so much

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more and continued making Jack.

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Excuse me, Captain Jack Sparrow. Uh you know, more central.

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Too, and yes, I mean you still get the weasel

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of him, that he's a coward at times, but you

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really see his true heart right and especially with that story,

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would have made it even stronger.

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Yeah, like you know, and it would be a nice

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turback to like you know, the first movie, whereas you know,

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sometimes the only option is piracy.

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That's how it ends with with the.

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Governor Tullonorrenton that so you know, when you're pushed up

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against the wall with very little sometimes, yeah, that's what

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you have to do.

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Very cool, very cool. Well I said, I mentioned before

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that Jack Captain Jack Sparrow would not be who he

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is if it wasn't for Johnny Depp. There's there's no

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doubt about that at all. His mannerisms, his running is

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absolutely hysterical.

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Yes, it is one of the most hilarious and fun

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just runs ever.

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It Yeah, it's so fantastic.

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Run. I know, here comes some laughter because yes, you

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can't help it, you really can't. Yeah, I mean just

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just his facial expressions, you know, like when then when

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the monkey was running around and as soon as he

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saw the monkey, how he like cringe his face and

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shooting at it. It's just he's just so good at

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those just quick facial expressions that just make you laugh.

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He's just talented. But yeah, I absolutely love I love

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of him. But Angela, you said that there were some

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other people who could have gone for Jack Sparrow.

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Yeah, they said they either turn it down or pass

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over for the role.

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So one of the main ones was Jim Carrey, but

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he was busy doing Bruso Mighty, which that's the avenue

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he definitely should. Yes, they also were considering Christopher Walking.

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Mm hmm. Yeah, I mean even twenty years ago, I

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think that probably would have been a bit too old

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for the h But you know, I'm Captain Sack Sparrow.

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And there's my my amateur impression.

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And then Michael Keaton was another one too, and then

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ultimately Johnny Depp was cast forward after he was looking

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for more of a family friendly film, and then you know,

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there was the idea of of Jack Spurrow. But ultimately,

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you know, he did what he did best, and he

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made it his own, and.

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He had anybody else that.

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Genius for reading something on the paper that was one thing,

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and then it goes, it gets scrambled around in his

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brain and he says, you know who that guy is, Like,

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he's like Keith Richards and you know, does all this

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crazy stuff.

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And they the producers lost their minds, so like you're

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not going to do this in the movie, are you?

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Uh huh.

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They just trusted him and wept with it. And the

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genius that we've got. Yeah, I mean that just blows me.

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Away because I know at one point, I think someone

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went told, hey, you have because he put all those

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different gold crowns and it stuff, and they told him

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that he had too many. So even though looks like

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he still has a lot, apparently he had to tone

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it down before you know that and then like all

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the trinkets and stuff. But yeah, they said they kind

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of when they were writing it, they were basing it

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a little bit off of like Keith Richards and then

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like a Looney tune type, you know, and then you

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add in, you know, I've had too much sun, too

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much rum, you know, hey, you know, yeah, just his

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movement and it was just yeah, it's just fantastic.

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So good yep, absolutely agree. Quick favorite favorite toy death

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film mind, Sleepy Hollow.

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That is a good. God, I haven't seen that one

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in a really long time.

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Oh, yes, honestly, honestly, I think it's Curse of the

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Black Pearl.

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I mean, that's a great You can't that choice.

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You can't love that movie so much?

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You can't that is Yeah, it's it's such a lot

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of fun. But yeah, I feel like, sorry you asked

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me to Yeah, Jeff, I'm sorry You're gonna have to

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edit a bunch of dead space out here. Why I

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figure this out because I want to make sure. My

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answer is Yeah, I like Sleepy Hollow too.

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I love how he he.

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Said that uh Ichabod was in his Akabod was like

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Angela Lansbury mixed with a twelve year old girl.

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Yeah, and I mean him, him and Christina Richie are

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just perfect with each other in that film. They really are.

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Yes, that was a good one.

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I will go with probably the one that when it

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first came out and I really did enjoy it a lot,

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was Sweeney Todd him in the Bottom Carter.

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So I think I because, yeah, I think I would

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probably go with that one.

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Did you like his Willy Wonka?

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I did to a certain degree, But Gene Wilder was just.

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But I so much. And yeah, the Johnny depp one

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is more like.

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The closer to the book. I yes, I agree, and

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with that aspect, I agree it was better in that,

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but I just grow up with Gene Wilder so much

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hard for me to break that it did.

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It was, Yes, I agree, I agree.

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Well, let's let's move on with the cast. Orlando Bloom

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as Will Turner. I mean obviously very very popular from

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Lord of the Rings when he played Regulus, so you know,

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this is just carrying on his popularity. So do you

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think they cast him because of that popularity or do

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you think they casted him just because he fit the

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character of Will Turner.

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I think he got the part before, like Lord of

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the Rings really hit, so I think he just won

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the part. Like I think he's got that kind of

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endearing gullibility where he's kind of, you know, standing in

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for the audience, where Jack's always like three steps ahead,

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but he's a pirate, so you can't trust him, and

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so Will is constantly like having to catch up that

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Jack's really not a liar. He really is doing the

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thing he said he was gonna do. He just doesn't

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do it the way you.

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Great, right, yeah, yeah, absolutely, But no, I agree with you.

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I mean, this was before he the Lord of Rings

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really got out there, wasn't it, Uh that he was

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Will Turner.

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So yeah, and he's super cute, I mean yeah, oh yeah.

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I was crushing on right on the on the Bloom

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Yeah yeah, legless.

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I was like, oh that and you know, and then

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seeing him this and yeah, so at.

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Least they uh you know, he didn't keep his uh

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natural dark hair for the Thank god he was an elf,

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so that helped kind of differentiate.

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But but he's a but I mean he's a you know, good,

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a good actor.

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I thought he did a you know, a great He's

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surprisingly funny too, Yeah he is, Yeah, he has.

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He has good acting skills and his performances on screen

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are really well done, like it's his timing, you know.

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So he's very he's very good at that. Now the

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the the next one. I fell in love with her,

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in love actually, and of course that's Cure Knightley. Yes,

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at places as Elizabeth swan Way.

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You know you didn't see her and like backham or

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my introduction to her, she was a robin Hood princess,

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I know, yeah, yeah, I know, No, I was just

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serning it out there.

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Yeah, no, my introduction with that, and it's funny enough Bill,

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and I was in uh love actually too. Yes, so

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uncle Billy, Uncle Billy, Yep. But I think I loved

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her in the Curse of Black Pearl. I did. But

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this is when I really felt like she came out better,

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a stronger character in my opinion, Yes, because she was,

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you know, fighting along every side everybody, you know, just

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like just like a pirate, you know. And she was

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doing really well and holding her own you know, especially

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the scene there where they're trying to run away with

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the heart in the case, that whole sequence there. I

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thought she was brilliant in that, and and the fact

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that she's trying to play off too, Oh I'm going

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to pass out, you know, try to get their attention.

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Like, no, it doesn't work anymore. The boys know that

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you are not the damsel in distrys like don't. I

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won't let the petticoat fool you. And uh yeah, So

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she definitely uh you know, the smarts and the navigating

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uh these silly men and their own agendas and everything,

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and trying to.

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You know, save herself and will and or.

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Even tricking Jack Captain Jack Sperrel.

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Yes, and he's like pirate.

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But I will say I don't like her in that scene.

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I like him in that scene. Expression is like he

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is everything in that scene.

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But I love the part where she sneaks on she's

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trying to get to Will because she sneaks on like

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a merchant vessel and she's doing the thing with the

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dress and the boats haunted and like I and she's

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like sneaking around, you know, behind the scenes.

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I think that part's really funny.

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But I love two of how dumb they they were

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because and they couldn't read it, so she had to

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go down to point it out to them, and.

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Even just her exasperation and stuff.

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You know.

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Although I will say when the one part where she was.

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A little I would maybe not necessarily whity, so I

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might be exaggerate, but talking to her, I just thought

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I'd be married, but now I was like, okay can

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And then he's offering himself is like, well, you know,

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I can't conduct a marriage. But he never he never

476
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:19.240
ceases to take an opportunity, which is another great thing

477
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:26.160
come out, you know, exactly exactly, but just that he's

478
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:28.000
still like I'm still going to try to, you know,

479
00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:31.119
get with miss Swan here and everything you know, and

480
00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:32.519
and uh and stuff.

481
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:36.680
So miss Swan was very attractive as a pirate. I

482
00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:39.480
will say this, Oh yeah, I will not deny that.

483
00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:43.119
Yeah, no, she yes, well, and her wigs were really

484
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:44.039
bad in this movie.

485
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:48.480
So anytime like she's got her hat on, yeah.

486
00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.319
Well I did. I did see where they said that doing.

487
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:54.160
I think with filming this, I think it was kind

488
00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:56.400
of in the because they did this one and Outworlds

489
00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:57.960
and like back to back, so in a lot of

490
00:24:57.960 --> 00:24:59.880
times she might be having a wig on because she

491
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.000
had cut all of her hair off her Domino, which

492
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:02.960
is a really cool movie.

493
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:04.960
If you haven't seen it, I do recommend that.

494
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:07.480
I do remember enjoying that very much, and it's very

495
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:11.799
different than Elizabeth Swan. And then also by the time

496
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.119
this was released, she had just done the year before

497
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.720
the film version of the latest aptation of Pride and Prejudice,

498
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.799
which reunited her and Tom Hollander, which if you've seen

499
00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:27.359
that film version, it's makes this a little bit funnier

500
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:30.640
as their interaction you're like, see, this's what you get,

501
00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:31.440
mister Collins.

502
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.000
I do want to point something out to our producer

503
00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:37.279
Jeff who made fun of me for the longest time

504
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:39.680
about this, and I think he still does. So I

505
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:43.839
had the biggest crush on Kirsten Duntz for the longest time, okay,

506
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.839
until Kira Knightley came along. Yeah, and then I quickly

507
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.119
started crushing on Kiera Knightley and for some reason he

508
00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:53.000
made fun of me for the longest time about my

509
00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:55.640
crush on her, and I'm like, why are you? I mean,

510
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.319
she's beautiful? Yeah, right, what are you not seeing here

511
00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:01.440
that I am seeing? I don't understand you.

512
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:04.160
Yeah, oh my goodness.

513
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.000
Yeah, so what I don't get it?

514
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:09.400
Yeah, We're gonna need some explanation on that one.

515
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:11.839
We are we are. So I'm putting you out there, Jeff,

516
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.640
you need to explain to us why.

517
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:16.000
Yeah, why why wouldn't.

518
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:19.359
You like have you seen her in the Atonement green dress?

519
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:21.920
Like that was all?

520
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:23.400
That was another fantastic.

521
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:24.759
Goddamn kids boy.

522
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:30.720
But how well, yeah, there's a little girl girl crushing there.

523
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.599
And then if I watch her interviews, like there's a

524
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.400
really good one Amber since you brought up Atonement where

525
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:39.880
she was on the Graham Norton show, uh, and she

526
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:43.839
talks about that scene and what the director was like

527
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:48.319
yelling about my little James. It's like, you know, and

528
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:51.000
because he's got to like mount her up against you know,

529
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.400
the book, the things that the director was yelling at.

530
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:55.519
She's like, oh my god, you know, and they're really

531
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:57.519
good friends and stuff. But that was really funny.

532
00:26:57.559 --> 00:26:59.519
But you just see like she's got a really good

533
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.839
sense of humor. Doesn't seem to you know, not you know,

534
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:05.799
not being you know, snobby or things like that. She

535
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:08.319
seems like she's got a decent head on her shoulders.

536
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.200
And and she is. She is pretty talented. She's she's

537
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.720
done a lot of other good, you know, little side

538
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:16.319
projects and things like that, so she definitely has you know,

539
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:17.440
the skill set there too.

540
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:23.640
Absolutely, Bill nye Uh played Davy Jones. I think he

541
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:26.160
did a tremendous job as Davy Jones. And the mere

542
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.839
fact not just that he's a good actor, but the

543
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:30.480
mere fact that he had to do all of his

544
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:37.880
performances in that that yeah, literally because because I know, and.

545
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:40.640
I'm so mad about that, because I've seen like behind

546
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:45.079
the scenes where it's him filming in that suit, and

547
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.319
you know, you're primed to kind of laugh because it's

548
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:53.400
ridiculously it is. But he is such a good actor

549
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:58.240
and has such an interesting face and to not get

550
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:01.720
that at all because of all the c g I garbage,

551
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:04.039
like I do, I get so frustrated.

552
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:05.359
It is frustrating.

553
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:07.599
You know, you see him as Victor and Underworld and

554
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.359
his facial expressions and just his you know list mannerisms

555
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.279
that you know that's just a signature of his and

556
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:15.279
you can still get that.

557
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:16.279
But yes, you would get.

558
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.759
I mean, the only thing I'm scared of dating is

559
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.960
I don't like like slimy things. Yeah, well just the

560
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:28.279
slime like yeah, gross, So that's not the vibe.

561
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.599
I was like, I'm sorry, I can't take you seriously

562
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:37.200
when you literally just snailed, like you know.

563
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:41.279
You get this goom like he's so gooey. I'm scared.

564
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:48.200
So Stellin Scars Guard comes down along as Bootstrap Bill,

565
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.920
who turns out to be obviously Will's father. Stellin is good,

566
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.400
his whole family crying out loud. I know this dynasty,

567
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.799
It's it's amazing. But yeah, I thought he didn't.

568
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.000
And Stellan is the m v P because he doesn't

569
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:08.680
believe in the.

570
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:09.119
C g I.

571
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:12.000
So he sat in the makeup chair for four hours.

572
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:20.440
Prosthetics James the lord is like here, hold my drink.

573
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:24.839
Right, Yeah, it was just like one side of his

574
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.039
face that was yank, It wasn't you know.

575
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:31.079
So know that that is cool and yeah that that

576
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.359
those textures and that all. Yeah, that authenticity with it,

577
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:38.000
I mean I yeah you should still do there is

578
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:39.640
you know that is an art to that.

579
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:44.279
And yes, what about what about poor old Harris? Yeah,

580
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:49.920
absolutely beautiful woman. Yes, yes, it looks absolutely horrible. Yes,

581
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:51.160
it's so funny.

582
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.960
Every time I watch what is It? Skyfall? I think

583
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:59.559
the beginning, I'm like, it can't be.

584
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:04.039
I know, every time you look at that character like

585
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:06.079
just cannot be heard. There's no way.

586
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:11.759
But it's when they do that black ink teeth out.

587
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.759
She's role too. Yes, yes, you're so good.

588
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:21.839
Yes, I'm a fan of Disney and and someone who

589
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.519
has been privileged enough to go to the parks more

590
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:27.720
than once and ride Pirates many many times.

591
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.720
That's the very.

592
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.960
First thing, that's the very first location that you go

593
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.720
to on the ride is the bayou and and that

594
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:40.640
cabin that she lives in, and the fireflies and everything.

595
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.440
So I love that they gave us all of that

596
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.279
atmosphere for her, you know location.

597
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:48.839
Yeah, and they matched it pretty closely, didn't they.

598
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.359
Yes, yes, it's like identical, like the music, everything, everything

599
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:54.200
is identical.

600
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:54.839
It's awesome.

601
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.039
That's that's fantastic they were able to do that. So

602
00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:59.440
but no, and man, we got to let other character

603
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.319
actors in the f to They have returned obviously from

604
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.440
cursonal Back Pearl, including good old Jonathan Price. I love

605
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.640
what Jonathan everything that guy does. I just think he's

606
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.200
a really good actor. I know, we probably could have

607
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.400
done without him in this, you know, to kind of

608
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.240
shorten up the film or give us what we wanted

609
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.400
about the backstory of Captain Jack Sparrow. But I still

610
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.599
like that we get some of him in this film.

611
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:24.680
So yes, be Heau's a great actor. I do want

612
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:29.880
to shout out Hans Zimmer his tremendous score that he

613
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.839
has created for Pirates of the Caribbean. Uh is absolutely stunning.

614
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.160
I mean, you cannot get any closer to a pirate

615
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:38.599
film than you do with his score.

616
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:43.160
Yes, without without question, it's definitely let me pack my bag,

617
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.680
let's go, let's let's go on adventure.

618
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.319
Absolutely, And I also want to shout out the cinematographer

619
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.200
Darris Walski. He's done a ton of stuff over the years,

620
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.279
but he's done like the Martian, Napoleon, Sweeney Todd, There

621
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.279
you Go, Angela, Alien Covenant, Dark City, Crimson Todd, the

622
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.319
Crow h and and much much more. If you look

623
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.519
at him. I thought his cinematography in this was was stunning.

624
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:08.759
I mean, I know there's some CGI stuff, but when

625
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:12.920
you get those epic shots across the ocean and you know,

626
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.480
those kind of things on the islands with the natives,

627
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:18.920
you know, there's just some incredible camera movements and the

628
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.839
lighting that he creates on the ship or in the swamp.

629
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.039
I mean, it's just it's just brilliant, it really is,

630
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:28.359
and I appreciate the work that he put into this.

631
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:30.960
All right, Well, let's talk about some of the background

632
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.720
and the production of this amber. You already touched on

633
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.359
one of those mentioning about the swamp on how close

634
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.960
they got that to look to the the to the ride.

635
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.599
You know, I think Disney this is obviously why Disney

636
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.880
wanted this series created, right because they wanted to match

637
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:48.680
it after that ride to give it, you know, bring

638
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:52.160
more people back, you know, to appreciate that. And it

639
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.440
has its work for crying out loud Johnny Depp has

640
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:00.079
even made some appearances at Disneyland there, so which I

641
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.519
would never gotten lucky to be have that happen to me,

642
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:06.119
but how cool that would it be. So the interesting

643
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.440
thing about this is apparently Gore took a page out

644
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.640
of Peter Jackson's book and they filmed this and the

645
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.880
third one back to back. I'm not a fan of

646
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:24.160
At World's End, but I appreciate the fact the undertaking

647
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.119
that you do as a cast and a crew of

648
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.960
filming something as big as these two films are on

649
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.759
top of one another. Yeah, you know, it's smart of

650
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.039
Disney because you know, you don't have to let the

651
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.920
cast go and then bring them back to reschedule them

652
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.279
for the third one. Just go ahead and give you

653
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.039
all the money, just do both of them at the

654
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.359
same time, especially since you get a kind of to

655
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.319
be continued in this, you know. So yeah, you know

656
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.160
you got to get that third one out pretty quick,

657
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.839
so go ahead and do it. I mean, I guess

658
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.079
this was before Peter Jackson too, because I think it

659
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:58.799
was done for Back to the Future two and three.

660
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.400
They did those back to yes, well, and Superman and

661
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:05.119
Superman one too, that's right, So I mean it has

662
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.400
it has happened in other series before.

663
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.199
The only thing I don't like about this one is

664
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.800
it they were enabled to do it because of the

665
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.880
c G I, which I'm not a fan of. So

666
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.239
I would have been happy to wait, you know, another

667
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:23.639
year for the third Pirate movie and.

668
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:30.000
Have well, right, and that's that's where most of that budget.

669
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.760
When I was like looking up, I was like, good.

670
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.039
Lord, like maybe another swing like scratch?

671
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:40.960
Yeah, the the uh the sorry I blackened the brain

672
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:44.360
for the technical terms, but the same uh camera movement

673
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.320
used for like Avatar. I guess they used you know

674
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:49.599
that kind of so obviously there's this hefty price tag

675
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:53.280
with that. So but I mean they made well more

676
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.320
than their money back, so it were you know okay,

677
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.719
but yes, usually yes, why don't we look at that script?

678
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:03.159
Just a few they could have because I'm not a

679
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.880
fan of that. I had to I don't want to

680
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.199
watch that film again because I had to like force

681
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.199
myself in the theater to get through that film.

682
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.760
Yes, I remember, yeah, same way. I remember I went with.

683
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:18.679
A friend of mine and I think my family member

684
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:22.320
and then their date and I remember just like halfway through,

685
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.679
just like oh my God, I'm like, I want to leave.

686
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:27.840
I'm so done right now, I know we left. I'm like,

687
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:29.599
what was that?

688
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:30.159
Like that?

689
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:30.559
You know?

690
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.079
And of course I blocked it out, so I couldn't

691
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.599
even really tell you all what have been with that?

692
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.960
Except for you know, Big flypso and right.

693
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:41.880
I think there's a swirl in the end.

694
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:45.440
The only I like about that movie.

695
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.159
I always have to ask Liam, like, which movie is

696
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:49.280
it where they flipped the boat?

697
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:53.400
Because I love that. That was that was pretty fun?

698
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:57.079
Yes, and so he's like, that's why we watched the

699
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.119
third one because that's the part.

700
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.800
Interesting enough. Did you guys know that Tim Burton created

701
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.239
some designs for this some of the crew members on

702
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:07.079
the Flying Dutchman?

703
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:07.840
No?

704
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:11.039
No, but I'm not surprised now, Yeah, why not?

705
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:13.920
I tell you. I guess Tim Burton's like, oh, Johnny Depp,

706
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:15.480
you're working on something. Can I help? Can?

707
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.360
I I know I was gonna say, I was like,

708
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:19.639
what do him and Johnny Depp know each other?

709
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:21.039
Remind me? I can't remember.

710
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.360
Yeah, I think they kind of worked it together briefly.

711
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:30.440
I don't know. Yeah, but no, And I find it

712
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.280
interesting too. Speaking about the animation and stuff, the CGI

713
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.360
Apparently it's the the people who are working on the

714
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.559
animation for the Kraken. We're having difficulties of making it

715
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:46.440
look realistic. So the animated director How Hickel told them

716
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:49.599
to watch King Kong Versus Godzilla because it had some

717
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:52.519
real octopus crawling over miniatures there and it would give

718
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.320
them a good retro, a good look at how it

719
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.599
should react. And that's what they went off of. And

720
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.639
I think I think the kracking look incredible in this movie.

721
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:03.880
I think they did a wonderful job. You're scared of it,

722
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:04.880
I mean because I think.

723
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:06.880
What you see of it is good.

724
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.239
But I feel like that's like very twenty thousand leagues

725
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:13.199
under the sea, Yeah, where you got to see that

726
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.159
whole giant squid, and so like, show me the whole kraken,

727
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.039
like you know this big mouse.

728
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.639
A little way, Yeah, like you do.

729
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.280
I think when Will gets off of the ship, like

730
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.960
and he's looking he's underwater, but it's a very Yeah,

731
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.840
you don't get to see in all of its glory.

732
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:34.280
You just see kind of like a large shadowy, you know, figure.

733
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.360
But yeah, that's that's all we know we get until

734
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:38.840
the very it's just.

735
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:42.119
A partial the whole ending thing the scary part, but

736
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.360
taking down the Black Pearl I thought was absolutely amazing.

737
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.559
But the ending fight of the first movie is still

738
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:51.360
the best. Oh yeah, on how the ships were just

739
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:52.519
getting tore apart.

740
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:57.800
Yeship, yeah, I love.

741
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:02.119
My favorite thing is the sword fight in the cave.

742
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:07.400
Because as they go from light to shadows, from skeleton

743
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:07.960
to humans.

744
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:11.159
Yes, we need to talk about this first one. We

745
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:13.679
need to have a special presentation where we go back

746
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.440
and talk about the curs because that movie is incredible.

747
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.440
And this one, so right, we give this one.

748
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:23.679
Now.

749
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:25.199
I agree with you.

750
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:26.880
I'm like, hey, guys, you're gonna do what worlds? And

751
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.159
I'm like, I don't have the kind of calendar.

752
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.719
Or the will the will right, all right, Well, let's

753
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.800
let's take our second break, and when we come back,

754
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.840
we're going to talk about our favorite scene of this movie.

755
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:47.239
We'll be right back. Welcome back, everybody where we are

756
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:54.039
continuing our discussion of Pirates of the Caribbean dead Man's Chest. So, ladies, uh,

757
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:59.400
let's talk about our favorite scene in this movie, because

758
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.039
there's a there's some there's some really really good ones

759
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.440
in this one. So Angela, I'll let you go first.

760
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:08.159
This time, I will say that when it did get

761
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.679
to that this area, this is the part was like, okay,

762
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.159
I remember this one was really really fun and it

763
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.920
was still enjoyable to watch this whole sequence of the

764
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.320
not just the cinematography, but like just the choreography of

765
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:22.519
the stunts, because now you've got a lot of moving parts.

766
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.800
Is when they're on the Native island and the sword

767
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.400
fight then goes from a standstill structure of a roof

768
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:33.679
of a house or hut or whatever, and then onto

769
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.440
a water wheel that then gets loose and starts rolling

770
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:38.239
through the jungle.

771
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.039
And then you know, Jack Captain.

772
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:47.159
Crap gets he fell into a grave actually dug grave,

773
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:49.199
and then he's like turned around and all sudden the

774
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.280
wheel goes over him and then catches him and then

775
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:52.320
he's upside down.

776
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.239
And then Will and Norrington are still doing.

777
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:56.920
Their sword fight, and then they're trying to you know,

778
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.599
get the key because it keeps gravity what a bitch

779
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:06.239
keeps keeps interfering with who's got the key, and so

780
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:07.960
you've got all these things going on.

781
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:09.239
But I just thought it was well done.

782
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.639
It was still a lot of fun and uh uh

783
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:14.679
you know, just all of uh well.

784
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:17.880
Yes.

785
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:19.599
Even up to that, it was like the three of them.

786
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.039
And then you know, Jack's like, I think what he

787
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:24.519
fell through the for off? I know, I just watched

788
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:27.320
it and now I can't remember. But anyway he got

789
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.719
out of it. Oh no, it's when.

790
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:33.239
He yeah, because he's like, wait a minute, I don't

791
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:34.639
really think this is all my fault.

792
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:36.800
And then he turns like isn't it Will who stole

793
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.280
your woman? And all of a sudden and then it

794
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.119
took his attention to you know what, He's.

795
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.599
Right, and then it just continues to Jack's like toodles,

796
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.599
and then they got on that wheel and then all

797
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:46.920
of a sudden it got loose and read.

798
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:48.119
So I'm going with that.

799
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:49.920
And then of course you're still being chased by the

800
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.840
natives and the sea pirates and all the things. So

801
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.960
I I just thought that that was still a tons

802
00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:01.480
of literally moving parts and characters and well choreographed and

803
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.639
still a lot of fun to rewatch.

804
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.679
I not to jump ahead of you, Imber, but it's

805
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.519
the same thing for me with Angela. That's that whole

806
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.840
sequence that I cannot imagine the storyboarding that had to

807
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:20.440
go into creating that before they actually filmed it. Because

808
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.519
there's so much going on in that entire sequence. Not

809
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:26.079
only do you have this three way sword fight, but

810
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.679
you also have the other sword fight going on with

811
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.480
was it Elizabeth, with Penta and Righetti. Those three are

812
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:35.800
fighting one another, remember, and then they have to stop

813
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.480
to fight each other because then you have the crew

814
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:41.920
from the Flying Dutchman coming at them, so they have

815
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.639
to stop and then help each other fight them off.

816
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:45.360
Well.

817
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:49.000
At the meantime, you know, every the case, the treasure

818
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.719
keeps getting going back and forth to different people, and

819
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.800
it just it was so well done here. The sequence

820
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:59.039
was just phenomenal, the cinematography, everything that you mentioned, Angela,

821
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.159
I can't agree war with you on this scene, but

822
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:05.800
there's one shot in the film that just blows me away. Returnda.

823
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.199
I love the shot. It's when Will and all of

824
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:11.239
them make it to the Black Pearl as they're pulling

825
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:13.920
it out into the water, and Jack's not there yet

826
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:15.800
because remember he was on the over the fire and

827
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.559
he escaped and they're all like, where's Jack worst I'm

828
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:21.960
not leaving to we get Captain Jack Sparrow and then

829
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.239
they alternative look and see him come running out under

830
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.880
the beach and then he pauses, and then all of

831
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.519
a sudden, all the natives come running out after him,

832
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.480
and then he just starts trucking on that run that

833
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:38.719
he does. I love that shot right there. I just

834
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.480
think it's so good because it wraps everything up right

835
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:43.280
there with Captain Jack Sparrow.

836
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:50.480
So yes, a lot of all right, Amber, what about you?

837
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:57.039
I too greatly enjoy the three way fight at the end.

838
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:02.599
But my favorite scene is again kind of for the

839
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.480
cinematography and and the blocking of it all, you know,

840
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.480
Like I said, I love the Pirate's Ride, and we

841
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:14.000
get another visit to that when they go to Tortuga,

842
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:18.159
and that whole panning shot as they're going into the

843
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:21.880
pub is right out of the ride, Yeah, with the

844
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.840
guy coming out of the well and everything. And then

845
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:28.360
I love that whole sequence in that pub where they

846
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.159
all start fighting and Jack's trying to find a hat

847
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:36.480
and you know, like and like bottles of rum are

848
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:38.719
smashing in the wall behind him and he doesn't even

849
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.079
flind She just keeps He's like, oh, here's another one.

850
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:41.199
You know.

851
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:44.559
So I love that.

852
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.840
That whole Tortuga sequences is my favorite.

853
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.480
And Elizabeth showing off her skills with the sword. Yes,

854
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.360
in that scene, and I love like when they got

855
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:55.599
cornered and she turns out and smashes the bottle where

856
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:57.920
he head. Here's what I forget what her line was.

857
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:00.320
I just wanted what satisfaction you're doing that, That's what

858
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:03.519
it was. Yes, Well, and you know, we didn't really

859
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:06.840
talk about Norrington, like I feel like Norrington is the

860
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:08.960
most interesting character in this movie.

861
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:10.440
Like, yeah, like.

862
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.679
Broken Norrington is really good.

863
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.639
Yea poor, poor broken Norrington.

864
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.480
And then while we're on that, because his character specifically,

865
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:21.679
I mean Grennandy's in general.

866
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.679
There's films that you can watch and you're like, I

867
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:30.000
can practically smelling on in this film and it's not

868
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:31.559
all fresh sea air and.

869
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:33.480
Roum.

870
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:36.639
So definitely when Norenton.

871
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:38.000
Comes back and she's like, oh my god, I can

872
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.119
whoo boy, you are right.

873
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:41.760
From all the way over here.

874
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:48.960
So you know, speaking of that, how about the shocking

875
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:50.320
of Captain Barbosa coming back.

876
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.719
Oh what a good reveal that was.

877
00:44:54.440 --> 00:45:00.400
Yeah. Yeah, and when he was coming down the definitely

878
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:01.599
what who knows?

879
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:03.719
Yeah, I was thinking it was going to be a

880
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:07.679
new character. It was gonna be Blackbeard or something. You know.

881
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.159
I did not see that coming.

882
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:12.960
Which I will say even with that, and even having

883
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.719
already seen at World's End, when I did finish this

884
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:18.760
the two parter, it got to this end, I was like,

885
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:20.480
oh man, I gotta watch the next one.

886
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:21.800
And then you so wait a minute.

887
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:22.159
No, I don't know.

888
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:23.920
I don't.

889
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.320
I can kind of like, you know, fast forward it.

890
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:29.320
But yeah, but the monkey got his appropriate captain.

891
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.760
And yes, that scene in the beginning where Jack shoots

892
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.920
em and kids is like, that doesn't work.

893
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:36.280
It doesn't matter. It makes me feel better.

894
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.639
But yeah, that that was an excellent room, like what yep,

895
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:49.679
and knowing what Norrington, yeah that he what he did actually.

896
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.519
All this wonderful build up and get that World's.

897
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.239
End, all the all the piracy owner the ones that

898
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.880
you know were where all the piracy is bad, and

899
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:00.559
then the option you have, So everybody's being already up

900
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:06.239
in here, nobody's above it, nobody being a little pirty

901
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:06.800
over here.

902
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.320
Exactly. Well, let's talk a little bit about the Philmi's

903
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:13.239
budget in the box office, which obviously this movie did

904
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.000
really really good at the theater two hundred and twenty

905
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:21.559
five million dollar budget and would gross over one billion dollars.

906
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.400
Happens, it's the highest of the franchise, it is.

907
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:27.559
Yeah, and it's the high schoocing movie of two thousand

908
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:31.280
and six as well, which obviously makes sense because no

909
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:33.519
other movie crossed one billion except for this one. So

910
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.400
crazy to think about. It made one hundred and thirty

911
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:41.679
six million just in this country on opening weekend, breaking

912
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:44.000
the record of Spider Man from two thousand and two.

913
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:48.079
So it obviously people were in the mood for Pirates.

914
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.920
Especially after the first one being so good.

915
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:51.920
Yeah.

916
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.440
Yeah, I mean even with you know, knowing going into sequel, Hey,

917
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:56.800
I know, it's not gonna have as good a stuff.

918
00:46:56.800 --> 00:47:01.079
That's that's still yeah. Over four times it's it's return yep.

919
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:03.960
And at this time there was only two other movies

920
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:05.559
he wo had crossed the one billion market, and that

921
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.679
was Titanic and Return at the Game Lord of the Rings,

922
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:11.840
so this one got to join that one. So obviously

923
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.159
Disney was very very happy with this one. And the

924
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.960
mere fact that because of I don't know what the

925
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.119
budget for A World's End was, but it's probably around

926
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:21.519
the same budget as this one. So the mere fact

927
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:23.679
that this movie already got the budget back for the

928
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:27.199
movie that's not been released yet. Okay, he is happy.

929
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:28.719
I think I saw combined.

930
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.440
They said it was like four seventy five five twenty

931
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.320
five wow together, so minus the yeah, the two twenty

932
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:36.440
five but out of the all the franchise.

933
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:43.639
Apparently Straight Stranger Tides had the highest budget, but not

934
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:44.960
the biggest ree too.

935
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:47.760
Yeah. I mean literally the world then could have flopped,

936
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:50.159
which it didn't. It did pretty good. It could have

937
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:51.400
fucked stillould have been okay.

938
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.280
And I think, you know, you gotta wonder if like, well,

939
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:57.000
you know, people are gonna see it anyway, because now

940
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.079
we've created we've turned it into a trilogy, which I

941
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:04.519
think wasn't maybe the.

942
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:06.280
The intention in the beginning. Yeah, because this director, he

943
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:07.119
did the first three and.

944
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:08.679
Then afterwards he's like, you know, I feel like these

945
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:10.760
stories have wrapped up, and he didn't want to, you know,

946
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:11.239
do anymore.

947
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:13.239
He wanted to He craved challenges.

948
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:15.000
Which yeah, totally you know get and plus after doing

949
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.000
these two major things I said, back to back and

950
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:18.920
all that, I mean you just say that, I'm like,

951
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:22.159
that's a Dane. Yeah, so I you know, I I

952
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:23.320
I get it.

953
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:26.159
Have it hinge on.

954
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.519
Hey, people are going to go just because it's part

955
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.760
of that you know, trilogy and and kind of taking

956
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:33.639
a little bit of advantage of that, and then you

957
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:34.280
go see it.

958
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:36.039
And then what the hell?

959
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:37.760
What was that?

960
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.440
I'm like, And that was the one and only time

961
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.679
I've ever I I've watched it, So unless we do

962
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.480
one here and well, it came out two thousand and seven,

963
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.559
so hopefully he doesn't have this on the schedule the

964
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:50.079
next night.

965
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:53.960
I feel like I need a gift card of some sort.

966
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:59.440
What's senate for good old Captain Angela over there?

967
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:03.039
Now, I will say dead Man and Tail not Tales

968
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:04.159
did bring the franchise.

969
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:05.960
Yes, I loved that.

970
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:08.840
I digress it, but I agree David, like as soon

971
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:10.239
as I watched it, I was like, let me give

972
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:10.719
it a chance.

973
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:12.800
I think I did it like a couple. You know what.

974
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.159
It's when I got COVID, I managed to get all

975
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:17.719
throughout the year. I got, you know, through school and

976
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:21.079
everything like that, and then I went to graduation and

977
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:22.320
got me sick.

978
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:23.800
And that was one of the movies.

979
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.400
I finally since I had time and I didn't have school,

980
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:27.159
I couldn't go to work.

981
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:29.760
I was, you know, homebound. I put that on. I

982
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:31.559
was like, why have I waited to see this?

983
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:34.159
Because I was afraid it was, you know, not gonna

984
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.440
be as but I'm like, this one was really like

985
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:39.440
made me feel like the first one, uh you know

986
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:40.519
more with that, with that and.

987
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:43.880
Ast all just so see, I find that so interesting.

988
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.639
Liam as the super fan, so he's like the litmus test.

989
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.320
He hates the fifth.

990
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:52.440
One, really.

991
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:55.079
Will not watch it.

992
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:57.639
I'm surprised by that.

993
00:49:57.719 --> 00:49:59.679
I mean, have your bardem as a I mean, he

994
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:01.639
plays such a freaking excellent island.

995
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.360
And then I still got the more of a backstory there,

996
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:06.840
and you get you know, like.

997
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.280
I don't remember he says, I watched it. I don't

998
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.159
remember ever watching it.

999
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:13.800
So I feel like maybe.

1000
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.599
As the as a pirate, I feel like you to

1001
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:18.920
remember that, right.

1002
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:21.719
But then, like I said, I still always get them

1003
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:23.920
confused because I'm like, which one's with the Mermaid?

1004
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.400
I don't and that's the Stranger together and that's when

1005
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:29.360
straight I just watched.

1006
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:35.239
And that's what I actually brought in Keith Richards as

1007
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:36.960
the dad And you're like, well, of course they did,

1008
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:38.039
because that's.

1009
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:42.400
You know, part of everything.

1010
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:47.159
Let's go in and take our another break. But this

1011
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:50.239
one for you listeners, if you are not a Patreon

1012
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:52.960
member this will be an official break for you, but

1013
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:56.559
for our Patreon members, continue on listening because we are

1014
00:50:56.599 --> 00:51:00.000
going to talk about some of our favorite Pirate movie

1015
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.679
and TV series that are not Pirates of the Caribbean.

1016
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.239
So hang on. For youse who are not part of

1017
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.559
the Patreon, go sign up and you know, maybe you

1018
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.159
can listen to this part well anyway, so let's go

1019
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:13.400
ahead and take our break. For your Patrion members, We're

1020
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:18.559
going to continue on for you right here, all right,

1021
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:22.559
So let's let's do the wrap up, ladies. So with

1022
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:27.559
this director, Gore Verbinski, he's done quite a bit. Which

1023
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:32.360
underrated project would you suggest someone watch that maybe they

1024
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:35.480
haven't seen from this director Angela, I will let you

1025
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:36.599
go first this time.

1026
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:42.360
Well, looking at his filmography of what he's mainly directed,

1027
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:47.280
he hasn't started anything written. Some of the things I'm

1028
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:49.840
not familiar with than I am is the Pirate the

1029
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:54.320
first three, but the one that popped up, he didn't

1030
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:57.760
direct or wrote it. He originally was going to direct it,

1031
00:51:57.760 --> 00:51:59.719
but then it went to Ben Stiller, so he's stayed

1032
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.000
on it executive producer. So I'm going to cheat a

1033
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:04.880
little bit here just because I honestly I know, I am.

1034
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:05.320
I'm sorry.

1035
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:08.039
She didn't really do a lot of underrated things either.

1036
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:13.559
I mean, yeah, I'm familiar with the ring, but obviously

1037
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:18.360
you guys know and if the listeners, Yeah, some things

1038
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:20.559
I can't with that particular I I know of it,

1039
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.519
and uh but and that's enough for me. I would

1040
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:25.519
never be able to watch this with or without people,

1041
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:26.639
whether it's in the daylight.

1042
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:32.760
I'm sorry, but.

1043
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.119
I'm trahpmorines. I watched the you know, Sinners and certain

1044
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:39.400
things like get Out, I do those little type of

1045
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:41.079
so great.

1046
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:45.159
But anyway, I'm gonna mention Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

1047
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:48.639
I thought that that one was really good, and it's

1048
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.559
a little bit more of an inspiring you know, this

1049
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.440
guy is the opposite of what I thought.

1050
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:58.039
It was really well done. So again, he didn't direct it.

1051
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.199
He was going to, but then Ben Stiller wan't doing

1052
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:03.400
it as well as starring in it. But and I

1053
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.599
thought that that was one of ben Zeller's best performances

1054
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:08.679
with that as well.

1055
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:13.320
Segue from you know, seeing him like a mommy stuff.

1056
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.280
Or that, you know, I mean, hey, he's excellent in

1057
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:19.360
Tropic of thunder Wrong, but for something a little bit

1058
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.119
you know, more meaningful, purposeful. So I thought that that

1059
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:23.760
was a real zo.

1060
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.440
Okay, pretty good my choice. Amber. What about you?

1061
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.239
So as a parent, a lot of times you find

1062
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:33.159
yourself taking one for the team, and maybe you go

1063
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:35.679
to see something that you're not really that interested in,

1064
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:37.320
but your kid really wants to go see it.

1065
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:39.920
I have been very lucky and that my.

1066
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:43.679
Kid has excellent taste, and so even when he wants

1067
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:46.119
to go see something and I'm like, this is gonna suck,

1068
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:48.400
it ends up being really good and I have a

1069
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:52.119
really good time. And one of those was from twenty eleven,

1070
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:53.440
the film Rango.

1071
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:55.239
Okay, that's a good rue.

1072
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.880
It's an animated western about a chameleon who accidentally winds

1073
00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:03.440
up in the town of Dirt, a lawless outpost in

1074
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:07.480
desperate need of a new shift, and Johnny Depp does

1075
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:13.559
the voice of the chameleon Rango. Timothy Oliphant steps in

1076
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:17.480
and does a little cameo, and it's just.

1077
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.159
This delightful little western. It's so much fun.

1078
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:24.519
It's this cute little movie, and I think did really

1079
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:25.599
well in the box office.

1080
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.239
It's not really an underrated classic.

1081
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:29.800
But maybe if you're not a huge fan of animation,

1082
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.079
you might have skipped it, but it's fun.

1083
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:38.920
I think that's the film that he did win Academy

1084
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:42.039
Award in a BAFTA for so on. So yes to

1085
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:44.639
get recognized with with that, because I think The Pirates

1086
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:47.719
got like something like Best Visual Effects somewhere.

1087
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.639
I think this movie but is tested.

1088
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:56.719
Yeah, but for Rango, he cool. Thanks Liam.

1089
00:54:56.840 --> 00:55:02.280
Yes, so I'm gonna go with one that probably not

1090
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:03.639
a lot of people like. It didn't do very good

1091
00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:06.199
at the box office, but I am a big fan

1092
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:08.679
of this and I grew up with watching a lot

1093
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:11.000
of the reruns and stuff like that. And I'm talking

1094
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:14.119
about the twenty thirteen The Lone Ranger by Gored Verbinsky.

1095
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:15.239
I liked it.

1096
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:20.159
I really enjoyed the film. I enjoyed it because I

1097
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.440
love now. I do love the Christopher Lloyd one from

1098
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:25.760
what eighty two I think it was where he played

1099
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:28.679
the Christopher Lloyd play the villain. I love that one.

1100
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.199
So going to see this one, you know, I had

1101
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.280
high expectations. I had high expectations because of Gore directing it,

1102
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:36.639
since he did The Pirates and stuff like that. And

1103
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:38.599
I still walk away loving.

1104
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:41.039
This film and TV show.

1105
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.760
Yeah, I watched it reruns because I loved.

1106
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:47.079
The TV show, like watching it on the Disney Channel

1107
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:50.559
or whatever. And that was my biggest thing, was I

1108
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:52.480
kept wanting it to be that, and it wasn't.

1109
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:56.199
It wasn't no, not at all. It was it was fun.

1110
00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:58.719
Johnny Depp, I think, did an incredible job as Tonto.

1111
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:01.719
And you know, he even got recognition from that from

1112
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.119
the Native Americans. They they they recognized that with him, yes,

1113
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:07.239
and you know, I thought that was really cool. But

1114
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.559
I also thought that there's no way. When I was

1115
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:11.880
watching this movie, I wonder if they're going to use

1116
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:14.840
the William tel overture in this film, and I was

1117
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:16.079
just I said, they're not going to do it. They're

1118
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:17.840
not going to do it, and by god if they

1119
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.840
did not do it, and it was a perfect spot

1120
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:23.119
for it too, it was perfect. Yeah, I loved it.

1121
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:26.840
I love that whole sequence there of using that and

1122
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:30.199
and and again another great score behind Zimmer. I thought

1123
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:31.280
it was fantastic.

1124
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:34.159
And Hans is another one of those that the man

1125
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:35.320
does not take a day off.

1126
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:37.519
He does not know, like, he goes hard.

1127
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.280
It doesn't matter if it's the Lone Ranger or if

1128
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:45.000
it's you know, Interstellar, Like he shows up for work

1129
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:46.519
every yes, not.

1130
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:48.679
And not just with film. I'm just going to bring

1131
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:49.880
the substance on the subject.

1132
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:53.039
And I started getting into the wonderful world of the

1133
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:58.519
very talented singer and songwriter Ray that hans Zimmer has

1134
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:02.480
done several things with, including her song Click Click Symphony,

1135
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:03.320
which is really great.

1136
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:04.719
She's just performed it on Tonight Show.

1137
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:08.079
But hans Zimmer does the orchestration with that, and so

1138
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:12.119
that collaboration, I'm like, yeah, girl, I mean it's it's awesome,

1139
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.880
So check it out. Yeah, they did a couple of

1140
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:20.840
pieces together, but yeah, I'm like, that's pretty awesome. You

1141
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.599
know that he does that too beautiful and you can

1142
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.800
definitely tell, yes, that's the Han that's the Hans Zimmer sound,

1143
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:30.760
but it still raised music and it's just a really

1144
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:32.519
good combination.

1145
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.480
Very enjoyable. Yeah, she's she's an amazing singer.

1146
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:38.800
I'm glad I got kind of got into and listened

1147
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:41.880
to all of her discography the last week or so,

1148
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:44.440
and I'm like, oh, because I hardly have any time

1149
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:45.840
to try to listen, and I'm like, I want to

1150
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.440
check this out, and I'm so glad.

1151
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:50.639
I did definitely definitely go check check that out. I know,

1152
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.199
I'm like very late. Apparently she's been out for a while,

1153
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:54.159
but I'm always.

1154
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:57.920
Hey, you know it's a good thing. That's right, better

1155
00:57:58.000 --> 00:57:58.559
late than ever.

1156
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:01.360
And I'm like, oh, this is amazing. I'm enjoying this. Yes,

1157
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:03.880
I feel slightly alive again.

1158
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:05.079
Thank you?

1159
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:05.360
Right?

1160
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.719
Absolutely? All right, ladies, Well do we do we recommend

1161
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:10.880
seeing this film?

1162
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:11.559
Heck?

1163
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:14.400
Yeah, yeah, I mean a good time.

1164
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:18.719
Yeah, yeah, just just mentally prepare that. Hey, it's it's

1165
00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:20.480
gonna be a minute. You gotta hang in there.

1166
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.639
But now you can enjoy it from home. You can

1167
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.440
pause it, go to the bathroom, get a.

1168
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.079
Snack for watching two days.

1169
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:28.599
Yes, like me, go run an error and come back.

1170
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:32.119
But yeah, but yes, I had to split up with

1171
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:35.039
working there. I'm like, I don't have the brain commencing

1172
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:38.199
this day for this, and like AMBERD said, have like

1173
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:39.800
I still got another hour.

1174
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:43.559
Oh my god, what happened in this movie? I'm forgetting everything?

1175
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:48.559
Yeah, no, I get it. But yeah, I recommend this

1176
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:50.480
film too. I really enjoy it. I think it's a

1177
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:53.480
good follow up. It's not as good as the first one.

1178
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:56.320
That hardly ever is a sequel beats the first one, yes,

1179
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.039
but it is a good follow up and it's very

1180
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:04.400
enjoyable on a thousand ahead of Yes, absolutely just to

1181
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:06.760
see gets to see Johnny Depp again. It's worth every penny,

1182
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:13.559
absolutely really really Captain Jack. That's right, all right, listeners,

1183
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:15.679
So if you have seen this film, how would you

1184
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:19.679
summarize it in exactly five words? Go to www dot

1185
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:22.639
a film by podcast dot com to give us your answer,

1186
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.320
or email us at a film by Podcast at gmail

1187
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:28.719
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1188
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:30.920
the show, we'll shout you out on the episode and

1189
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.239
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1190
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:37.239
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1191
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:41.000
and x We love interacting with you, sharing opinions, taking

1192
00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:45.760
your request for future episodes, and debating great movies. Angela Amber,

1193
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:50.480
it has been an absolute pleasure talking about this movie

1194
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:53.239
with you. We need, we need to definitely do this again,

1195
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.400
and we're gonna have to hound our producer Jeff to

1196
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:57.039
get us to let us do the Curse of Black

1197
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.719
Pearl because that will be a fun one to do

1198
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:05.519
since we've already done the sequel, right right, So.

1199
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:10.039
Apparently, Adam, it's on the twenty twenty eight such, Yes, just.

1200
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:11.920
Let him know you want to hear a Curse of

1201
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:12.639
the Black Pearl.

1202
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.719
Absolutely, let's do that. So well, Thanks you very much again,

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