Greta Gerwig - Lady Bird

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Has your mother ever made you want
to jump out of a movie car?

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I'm gonna say no, but I'm
sure. I'm sure that some of my

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behavior in the car has made her
want to jump out of the movie car

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that she was driving. I have
not only wanted to jump out of a

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car, but my mother. There
were three of us, and we would

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get to squabbling, and she would
tell us if we weren't going to stop

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that she was either a just going
to drive around the two seventy five loop

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until we stopped fighting. We would
just drive all day long, however logotech,

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or she would pull over and make
us run alongside the car. Wow.

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And I don't know why. I
think we really believed her. I

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don't know why because she would never
have done either of those things. But

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it definitely got us to pull ourselves
together very quickly, I imagine. So

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so On that note, let's dive
into a film by Greta Gerwigg twenty seventeen's

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coming of age story Ladybird. Hello
everybody, I'm Jeff Johnson, I'm Amber

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Lewis, and this is a film
by a podcast Amber. Always a pleasure

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to have you back. It's becoming
more and more common and I'm happy about

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that. I know, I'm just
gonna take a set of keys and bring

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myself at home. Yeah, well, we have to get the lawyers here

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and right up and drop some contracts. I think. No. Happy to

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have you back. I'm absolutely stoked
to talk about today's movie at A Gerwig's

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Ladybird. I'm gonna be honest with
you. I had never seen this.

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You I could tell we're a big
fan when when we talked about this one.

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So for for listeners like me who
maybe didn't catch this in twenty seventeen,

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can you can you let us know
what is Ladybird all about? Quite

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simply in the vein of you know, the eighties coming of age stories like

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you know, Pretty and Pink and
sixteen Candles, or you know, from

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the nineties, like movies like Clueless, it's about a seventeen year old girl

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coming of age in Sacramento, California, and very loosely semi autobiographical of what

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Greta Gerwig's life. She wrote and
directed it, and it's just this absolutely

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delightful, artistic young woman named who
has christened herself Ladybird, and that senior

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year of high school and all the
changes that you go through. I love

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coming of age movies. A lot
of times we see them from the male

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perspective. You know, it's always
a group of friends. And I don't

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care whether it's something as poigned as
stand by Me in nineteen eighty six or

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something as lewd as you know,
American Pie. You know, there's always

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there's always like that. We always
see these coming of age stories from the

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male perspective, and every so now
and again we're treated to one where it's

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the female perspective. I gotta tell
you, I absolutely love this film,

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and I'm surprised to know this is
this is Greta Gerwig's solo directing debut.

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I think it was two thousand and
eight. She worked with Joe Swanberg on

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a movie called Nights and Weekends.
But the fact that this is her solo

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effort and this is what she gives
us, I'm astounded. Amber. Yeah,

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she's just absolutely one of those natural
talents. I mean, I don't

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think it's going too far to say
in the vein of like Steven Spielberg,

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who just kind of jumped right out
of the gate and had a vision and

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was able to realize that vision in
a very audience entertaining way, Can is

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it too early? Can we go
ahead and talk about the Oscar snub this

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year? I'm kind of on the
seesaw about it. Oh okay, because

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as much as I wanted her to
get that directing nod, because I think

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it's just ridiculous that women just seem
to be excluded from that category, like

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they just don't belong there. It's
some kind of fluke when their movies are

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brilliant and successful. You know,
the movie was nominated in other categories that

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Greta could win, so she still
gets to win, Margot Robbie still gets

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to win. Yeah, they do. But I just feel like, but

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you it's a snub. I mean, and I think I think what you're

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saying definitely has merit, because it
would be one thing if we could say,

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hey, listen, this movie had
a lot to say, and you

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know, there was a really amazing
message behind the behind the plot. But

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it didn't do any money, but
we know it did a billion dollars,

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and it'd be one thing to say, hey listen, it's a it's a

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popular movie. Yeah, I made
a bunch of money, but I mean,

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come on, it's Barbie, except
that it wasn't it had a lot

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to say. I still like,
we covered it on our Back to the

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Box Office series and I raved about
it. Then last July when when it

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came out, and I still think
of who is it America Ferrara, who

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gives that incredible speech, that monologue
at the end, and I thought,

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damn, I mean, how hard
is it to be a woman in this

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day and age, in the past, in the future like this? Like

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everything she said like it just it
hit me like a ton of bricks.

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So so okay, yeah, so
I'm on the Oscar snub train here.

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I think I think she got she
got cheated. Let's jump into this cast.

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There's a couple people I want to
talk about. Let's begin with the

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woman playing the title role of ladybird
Uh. And I'm so happy to know

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how to do this because you look
at her name and you're like, what,

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but listen, she will tell you
herself. It's Saresha Ronan. Yes.

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And after I butchered David Oilweo's on
the other I have practiced because I

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was so ashamed of myself. I'm
very proud that I knew how to pronounce

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name because my son is completely in
love with her, Like, that's why

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I watched this movie because to the
credit of her talent. Yeah, the

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first and only thing that I had
seen her in before this was Atonement,

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and her character is so awful in
an Atonement, and I hate her so

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much that I was like, I
don't even want I can't even deal with

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her. I don't want to look
at her. I can't stand it.

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And Liam just fell in love with
her and was like, but we had

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to say this movie because my girls, Hey, I he has great taste.

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She is. She is an attractive
young woman. She's a talented young

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woman. And speaking about her beauty, I loved when I when I because

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I kind of noticed this when I
watched it and then like just picking up

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a little bit, do you know, because I'll warn you I'm not as

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prepared this time. I didn't.
I didn't do a lot of digging on

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this film. But that's okay.
Yeah, I figured you would. But

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I love the fact that she chooses
not to wear makeup, you know,

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to cover she had a little bit
of acting me going on at this time

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in her life, and she makes
an informed decision and not to cover it

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up because she wants to show a
teenager's face in a movie that actually looks

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like eighteenagers face in real life.
And Greta girl will get it like she's

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on board with it. And my
god, she's still she's she's she's just

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a beautiful girl in this movie.
Despite that, you know, I think

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it has something to do with there
are some people that their intelligence and their

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passion just comes across on their face. There is something about her that is

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so compelling and just makes her so
interesting to watch. I have to agree,

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But I love that lack of vanity. She had just done The Crucible

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on Broadway, and that heavy stage
makeup combined with like the hot lights and

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everything, just is that what was
doing it out? Oh wow? And

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the fact that she is the one
that went to her makeup artist and then

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they went to Greta and said,
this is what we want to do,

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because you know, every teen movie
that you can think of, like they've

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all got porcelain skid, you know, not like that movies like this,

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the you know, the high school
coming of age movies, even the nerds,

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even the like everyone everyone looks fantastic. Let's be honest, you know,

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looks better than in the Breakfast Club
I'm looking at you. Brian Johnson.

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Yeah, yeah, he looked fantastic. You know, he couldn't he

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he wasn't good at shop class.
But that's okay. He still look great.

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You know, he's a handsome guy. Laurie Metcalf plays Ladybird's mother,

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Mary M McPherson. So Gerwigs,
I know, uh, Gerwig was impressed

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by her theater work because we're all
wondering, like, you know, what

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happened to Jackie? She you know, gone, I feel so like that's

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so insulting, but it made such
an impression that every time I see her,

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I'm like, Jackie is in this
what? Well? I mean,

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let's let's be honest. Every time
Lorie Metcalf shows up in a film and

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to her she's very good. You
still see Jackie, you know, like,

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oh, hey, Jackie's working for
Jim Garrison and jfk Oh hey,

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Jackie's unhinged. She's a she went
crazy and scream. So yeah, but

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this is a situation where I don't
see Jackie at all, and I guess,

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you know, she leaves Rose and
she goes, she goes on stage,

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does a lot of theater work.
I would love to see some of

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her theater performances, if that's out
there anywhere. But she's amazing in this

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movie. I absolutely think her performance
was incredible. I can't believe, you

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know, she's nominated for an Academy
Award here and I can't believe she doesn't

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win it. Oh, she was
so amazing and so perfect for this role.

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And the one thing that I love
is in researching Little Women, Greta

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Gerwig in that script, I love
when people like when there's intermingled dialogue and

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people talking over each other, and
she had written that into the script,

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like within tension, and they rehearsed
it that way, and I wonder,

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I didn't get anything from this one, But I wonder how if this was

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just a Lourie Metcalf thing, or
if they rehearsed it this way, that

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the way she paces all of her
conversations with Ladybird, where it can start

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out like very nurturing and then all
of a sudden it takes like this ninety

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degree turn into a fight and then
they switch gears and then they're back again,

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and yeah, okay, so it's
it flows so naturally because every time

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we watch this and they go to
shop for the Thanksgiving dress. Like Liam

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and I are on the floor because
that is literally every shopping trip I've ever

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taken with my mother to this day. Liam's like, yeah, I've watched

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you do it. It's amazing.
You know. We were kind of kidding

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around about jumping out of the car. This movie opens. Okay, so

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I'm gonna be honest with you.
Like I said, I had not seen

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this movie. I didn't know what
to expect. We'll see what happens.

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I had faith, I will say
this. I had faith because I was

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like, this is a Greta Gerwig
film. I'm already, I'm already,

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I'm already on board. But we
open up there they're listening to like the

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Grapes of Wrath on on tape,
and they're they're having like this tender mother

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daughter moment where they're both crying,
and I don't relate. You know,

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I'm a guy. I don't relate
to that. You know. I didn't

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have crying moments with my with my
mom. But within like a second,

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they're at each other and this girl
just just opens the door and flings herself

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out, and I'm like, holy
shit, what kind of movie are we

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watching here? What? What?
What? And at that point I knew,

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this movie's fantastic. I'm gonna love
it the rest of the way.

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I don't care, well, I
don't even care what happens from here on

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out. This is gonna be a
fantastic movie because these moments between Laurie Metcalf

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and Sarah shar Ronan, they're just
they're so real, like it blows my

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mind, you know. And maybe
they did do this, but I would

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just believe that Greta Girgs just sent
them on a road trip and said,

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hey, go be mother and daughter
and you know, come back. We'll

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see you on Monday. You know. Yes, if they didn't do that

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and they still had this kind of
chemistry as a as a mother and daughter,

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I'm just I'm just wild. Yeah, they're just powerhouse women. And

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the thing that I love that Gretigrig
said about it was because through the whole

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press junket leading up to the awards
season that year, because this film just

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had all of the buzz and everybody
was going that's over. People of course

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kept asking her like, well,
how true is it? And did all

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of these things really happen? And
she said that this story rhymes with the

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truth and I thought that is so
such a perfect way of saying it,

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because you know, you can,
like I said, I can relate to

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those having those fights with my mom, but we rarely had fights that bad,

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you know, where they're like constantly, you know, at each other's

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starts, And my mother never said
anything as harsh. Laurie Metcalf like does

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not hold back in some of those
scenes. The things she says are really

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brutal. She's the breadwinner of this
family and she's working double shifts. She's

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still at home doing dishes and doing
laundry, and you're like, what what

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is the rest of this household doing? Like, why aren't they helping this

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woman? So when she gets a
little out of line with Ladybird or she

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kind of gives some very transparent,
hard to hear truths about their family situation,

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their financial situation, I'm behind her. It hit me on two levels

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because you know, I'm watching it
from Ladybird's perspective, and I was,

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I mean, I wasn't like her
as a teenager, but I remember feeling

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that way as a teenager and then
seeing it also from the mom's perspective.

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You're in both worlds now, right, Yeah, and then understanding that how

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scared her mother is all the time. She just operates on this level of

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anxiety that none of the rest of
them even see that frequency. So God

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bless her. She's doing her best. She's doing her best. I'll tell

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you someone who's maybe not doing their
best, And I don't mean their performance,

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I just mean the character I was
so listen, my man, Timothy

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shallaba is in this post. I'm
a huge I'm a huge I'm a huge

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Shallabay fan. I love this dude. Yes, And I'm like, all

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right, I can't wait. Where's
he at? Like it's because it's like

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thirty minutes before he shows up.
And then he's he's he's straight up James

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Dean and I'm like, yeah,
shallab is here, give it to me.

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And then and he's going to be
the hero because the first boyfriend fell

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flat. Yeah, the first boyfriend
kind of is a little bit of a

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dufist and he definitely is uh is
gonna fall flat. But man, ten

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minutes in and I'm like, oh, Timothy Shallomey, You're You're a douchebag.

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This is not what I wanted.
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he's playing like a real teenage boy. Well, yeah he is,

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which I think shows how like Timmy's
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he does not come off this way. I'm I'm not going to it for

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this. Yeah, I'm not gonna
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May's Kyle character that not all that
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he where is? Yeah, that's
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two thousands high school guy. Yeah, I get it. Yeah he is

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still tataract. He is he is. Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell you.

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I gotta plug a movie and you
know what, We're going to cover

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it at some point. But have
you ever seen him in a movie called

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The King. It's a Netflix original
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strongly about Henry the Fifth that I
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I'm gonna hate it. Oh you're
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That is that is the that is
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no kidding, no kidding. And
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French King and you're like, damn, these guys are they're they're putting

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work. So oh you got me
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it. I give you a guarantee
if you if you don't like it,

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uh yeah, I'll tell you what
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you don't like it. You picked
the director, you picked the but I

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don't even care what movie is.
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All right, all right, all
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I'm a man of my word.
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even like Maade Liam. He was
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says what I think he said in
this scene. What scene we're talking about,

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the scene at the party he says
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they're they're they're getting a little busy, and she's like, wait a minute.

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He's like, Gobby too, I
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like along those lines. Yeah.
He's like really, and he goes yeah,

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yeah, totally, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally totally yeah mm

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hmm. Hey, at that at
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just right. I'm not condoning it. I'm just saying he was a real

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teenage boy. He was a real
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scene stealer of this entire film?
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I. I don't know where she
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else she's been in. I am
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played she plays Julie the best friend. Yes, this girl's okay, I'm

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gushing here, but can we just
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like this this I love like the
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gives her a compliment and she's just
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whole body lights up? Yeah?
This girl? Like who is? Who

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is this girl? Beanie Feltz?
Has she done other stuff? She has,

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but it's like hit or miss here
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know from is she did the American
story. Uh, Monica Lewinsky? She

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is She's not playing she played Monica. This girl is playing Monica Lewinsky on

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an American crime story. Yeah what, I I don't have to check.

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What is she the girl from Book
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know what that is. But she
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they did that Princess Bride. She
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to be here. I think she's
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okay, so because we got like
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trying out for like the school play. Yes, and she does. She

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has she's got a lovely voice.
You know she's gonna but you know what,

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she's smarter than your average bear because
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a hymn that is smart. Yeah, you're right. I just she wasn't

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any better than any of the other
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know like Ssha and the other girl
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because she sung a him. Yeah, she's she's fantastic. But I'm sure

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character because that that's more what my
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I was in high school, so
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fantastic. She does steal the movie
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a quick break and when we get
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do know this this movie. You
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lot, a lot of couple like
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this at one point, it's a
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and Daughters. Yeah, she said
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usually with a line. We'll just
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the party, the college party,
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her where she's from, and she
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he says, I'm sorry where and
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just sells out everyone she's ever known
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this guy that she's known for like
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it just became like this thread that
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she would just write these pages and
just keep collecting pages. You could tell

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she loves to write. But apparently
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she take the cast and crew on
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she passed like she shared her high
school yearbooks, she shared her diaries,

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her journals that she wrote in high
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get into her headspace and understand who
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it's so important to who she is

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and who she wants to be and
what she's pushing away from. And you

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have to be able to get that. And she doesn't have a whole movie

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to tell you, no, so
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get it, you know, in
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understand. You know where everybody is
at so on set. This is something

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she has my immense respect for the
fact that she has cell phones banned from

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the sets of her films makes her
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the fact that she bans them.
This is something she picks up from her

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husband, Noah Bambak. Yes,
and yeah, I think that works.

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My other hero, Christopher Nolan.
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Junior was giving an interview and he
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I see him coming, I just
like throw my cellphone away so he doesn't

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say I have it, because and
their their point is like, you're here

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to work. There is nothing more
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give one hundred percent of your focus, then you're not wasting anybody's time.

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Absolutely, And you know, like
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directing opportunity, solo directing opportunity.
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interview where Spike Jones was actually interviewing
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early screenings. Their friends and he
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that when she was getting ready to
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and said, like, can we
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tell me everything I need to know? And she took like all these notes

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and all this advice from everybody,
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and crew together and make her set
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like what you don't know even with
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that it takes. This is a
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know, this is her directorial debut. It's not like she has a lot

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of clout behind her. So she's
showing up on set and she's telling she's

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telling established actors and actresses. She's
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cell phones away. I will not
see it on the set. And I

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dig that about her, Like her
strength of character is just it's off the

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charts as far as I was,
I'm concerned. This movie is nominated for

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Best Picture, Best Director, Best
Original Screenplay, Best Actress, and Best

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Supporting Actress at the ninetieth Academy Awards. Lady Bird gets her heartbroken twice in

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this movie. I feel like it's
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for five. I'm gonna I'm gonna
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year, so Best Picture, Best
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uh Guillamo del Toro. Oh but
I love Gimo. You're not gonna beat

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Shape of Water that year. You're
just not. I mean, there was

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some great This is a tough year
too. This is a tough class of

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films in the ninetieth Academy Awards,
but del Toro had it locked as far

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as I was concerned. Best Original
Screenplay, this is this is this is

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amazing work that she's put out.
She loses to uh Jordan Peele for Get

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Out And I know you love that
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one. Yes, yeah, so
again that's like, oh yeah, that's

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that's a tough that's a tough one. Uh. Best Actress Sarsha loses to

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Francis McDormand for three Billboards Outside of
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thank you, thank you for correcting
me. Yes, I could go either

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way there. McDorman is is is
brilliant in that movie. Yes, so

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I can kind of maybe see the
Academy going, hey, listen, this

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young lady, she's just getting her
start. She'll get another chance because you

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know, gets like that well,
and I think they take her for granted

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because she got nominated way back for
atonement. Yeah, when she was like

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twelve. Oh, I didn't know
that. Okay, yeah, so I

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think so she's due. Consists didn't
brilliant work from her, and it's just

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kind of like there was a span
of time where they treated Meryl Streep like

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that. It was like another genius
performance, Ehagan. I feel I feel

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like they were at this point,
like, you know, she's twelve,

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she's got plenty of time, She's
she's nineteen. You know, we'll get

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you next time. If she's in
anything other than a Michael Bay movie,

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she's she's she's gonna get it.
I'm telling you that right now. Yeah,

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here's when like Emma Stone might be
getting like her second Yeah, come

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on, come on. Best Supporting
Actress went to Alison Janey for it,

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Tanya. Yeah, again, this
is the one. Okay, well,

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okay, so okay, okay,
I'm not taking away from Alison Janey's performance.

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I'm just saying Lori metcalf Beater.
If I'm looking at those two performances,

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I'm like, you know what Llrie
met, if got it, I

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think it's really difficult to compare because
Alice and Janny's performance is more transformative because

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I was a figure skater, and
I was a figure skater during that time.

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I lived that, Okay, every
second of that Tanya Harding Nancy Kerrigan

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drama, and like Alison Jenny was
tiny Harding's mother, Like I remember seeing

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that woman on television, and when
I saw Alison Janney, I was like,

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oh my god. So it just
kind of depends on what the Academy

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appreciates more. And I think you
could argue that what Laurie Metcalf did was

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so so subtle that the flashare role
prevailed. I'll ask this question. Let's

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take a moment to highlight Amber Lewis, the voice of reason in the podcasting

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world. Amber, is it possible
that I'm I'm more for lurd Metcalf in

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this situation because her character was more
likable. I didn't like it Alison Jane's

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character, the character, not her
performance, like she was kind of a

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terrible person. I thought, you
know, oh yeah, yeah, But

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so is that my problem? Maybe
I'm just like, like, I like

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Marian better. The challenge between Francis
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as well, because you know,
Ladybird is someone that you're you're rooting for

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and you want to succeed. And
Francis mcdormand's character in Three Billboards is angry

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and yes, marsh and violent and
just furious at the world and she wants

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revenge and she doesn't care. And
that's a lot harder to root for.

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Like you kind of are with her
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never takes her foot off the gas, so by the end you're like,

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jeezly, how long can you maintain
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point. I want to talk about
the pivotal scene. What you think is

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the pivotal scene. I know I
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like, nope, this one is
more pivotal to the this story, this

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this film. So before before I
ask you for your pivotal scene, is

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there is there any any scene in
particular, like just that you want to

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call out, like, hey,
this this moment I loved it for this

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reason, or this moment made laugh
for this reason, because this again,

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this is a coming of age story
told from the female perspective. I have

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to I have to believe that you've
you've got some some good uh commentary on

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some of these scenes. Especially some
of these moments between these these these young

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female characters. Oh, I live
this life. You live this life?

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Amber, Yes, like the the
absolute realism of it. The auditioning for

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the for the musical just had me
on the floor. And then after opening

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night when they're all at like Perkins
or whatever, like that was my entire

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high school life was, you know, doing a production and then everybody orders

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fries and you know, you're loud
and obnoxious and you know, and like

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I said, every shopping scene between
Mom and Ladybird was like spot on.

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Oh my gosh, there's so many, so many. There's one great line

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though, that I do want to
call out, when she's talking about traveling

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and she says that they went to
I can't remember where they went, like

404
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:55.279
South America. I think somewhere when
she was like three, her dad got

405
00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:00.799
transferred for work. And she says, I remember from the picture. And

406
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:07.359
I love that line so much,
as there's so much like real false memory

407
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:14.240
in that, and she just says
it so innocently. I want, I

408
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:15.839
want you, lady. It's it's
women's history. Mind. Ladies. First,

409
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:21.799
you give what you believe is the
pivotal scene, because we might have

410
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.119
the same one. So and I
want to I wanna take the spotlight away

411
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:29.720
from you. What is the pivotal
moment in this movie for me? It's

412
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:39.640
when Ladybird comes back to herself and
the first step that she takes is telling

413
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.759
shamamalay Not that she wants to go
to prompt drop me off at my friend's

414
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:52.880
house. And Greta Gerwood described this
scene as she told Sarah, shit,

415
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:58.400
this is your boombox over your head. Go get the love of your life

416
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:02.559
moment. And when she gets out
of the car and she's running up to

417
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:07.079
the apartment, Greta right before she
said action, Greta said, go get

418
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.039
your girl. Oh that's awesome.
Is that wonderful? Yeah? I think

419
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:17.239
that whole sequence when they come back
together and reclaim that friendship is where the

420
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:24.480
whole movie turns. For me.
That scene in particular, I love it

421
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:29.320
because this movie and you know,
whether she was inspired by it or not.

422
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.440
The second half of this movie gives
off a real Can't Buy Me Love

423
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:43.400
vibe with Ronald Miller and his best
friend Kenneth. Our friend of the show,

424
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.559
Courtney Gaines, who played Kenneth,
and Can't Buy Me Love Because you've

425
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.800
got These two girls are best friends, and then all of a sudden,

426
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:52.920
one decides I'm gonna go hang out
with the popular crowd and you're not coming

427
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.320
with me, and it just sucks, like you're like, why are you

428
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.239
being such a shitty friend. So
I love that moment where it's like they

429
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.079
get to reconnect, they get the
she gets her girl back right, And

430
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:09.719
I hats off again to Beanie because
I love her that in that moment,

431
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:14.480
you know she she's in a vulnerable
moment. And then they're right back to

432
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.440
being like twelve years old again.
And then they're right back to being Let's

433
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:20.159
go, let's go smash prom,
Let's let's have a let's have a blast.

434
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.119
And I love that moment for him. And I love that too,

435
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:31.519
because so many things are in pop
culture about having that that magical prom moment

436
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:37.559
and it all works out somehow and
whatever. And I didn't have a date

437
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.159
for Prom, but I was determined
that I was going to go, So

438
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.480
I called one of my friends who
I had known since kindergarten m hm,

439
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.280
and she didn't have a date either, and she and I went to prom

440
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:53.239
together at a blast. So I
love that I got to see that kind

441
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:58.039
of acted out on I love you
know you can just go and do this

442
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.800
thing. Yeah, fantastic. I'm
gonna give you I don't I don't ever

443
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.360
do this. I'm gonna give you
the runner up pivotal moment and the I'm

444
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.400
ina give you what I feel is
the pivotal moment. I'm gonna I'm cheating

445
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:15.880
a little bit. I'm channeling Challa
May just a little bit here. The

446
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.159
runner up moment, the one I
thought this is the moment for me,

447
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:28.159
and then another moment just took my
breath away. The first boyfriend who seems

448
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:30.679
like a great guy, and you
know, I mean there, who's that

449
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:37.840
guy? Clarification he is a great
guy, even that quirky moment where there's

450
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.239
like a makeout scene and she has
to tell him like, hey, you

451
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:45.480
know you can touch my boobs and
he's like yes, but I respect you

452
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:50.039
too much, and I'm like,
dude, you just got the you just

453
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.719
got the all access passed. Like
what do you do? Now? We

454
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:57.639
understand? You know, her heart
breaks the first time because she is gonna

455
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.440
find out that that this young man
he happens to be hey, he happens

456
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:07.559
to be gay, and when he
shows back up, and he's kind of

457
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.039
got like this worm like vibe to
him, like he's trying. He's slinking

458
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:14.639
in at where she's at work.
He's and You're like, no, dude,

459
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:19.280
Shala may is on scene, you're
not getting another shot at well at

460
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:25.760
the moment, what can he possibly
say to to to be better or to

461
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:31.079
explain himself. Yes, But when
he catches her behind the store and she's

462
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:36.679
like, what do you want and
he's like, please, don't tell,

463
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.920
and then breaks down and actually just
collapses into her arms and starts sobbing.

464
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:50.920
I thought, whoa, that's this
poor guy, like this poor kid who

465
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:55.079
is dealing with a whole lot,
and it's amazing. You know, shame

466
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.320
on me for not calling out the
action name. Might you know again,

467
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:05.519
didn't didn't do all my homework,
But that moment, he is just fantastic.

468
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:09.199
And I love that because it was
a it was a chance for for

469
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:15.920
Lady Bird too to grow and develop. I feel like, yes, and

470
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:21.519
that is h I'll save you here. That's Lucas Hedges. Lucas Hedges,

471
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:23.800
what has he been again? I
don't He was in Three Billboards. He

472
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:29.559
was Francis mcdorman's son is he the
Sun. Okay. He was also in

473
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.760
Manchester by the Sea, Manchester by
the faking Sea, Okay, yeah,

474
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:46.239
with Michelle Pfeiffer. No, h
Grand Budapest Hotel with and again. So

475
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:51.599
yeah, Moon Right's Kingdom. He's
done. He is in Moon Right's Kingdom.

476
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.159
Okay, yeah, Okay, Now
I'm now I'm picking him up.

477
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:57.920
I'm putting the face to the to
the characters. Fantastic moment for him.

478
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.280
I honestly thought that was gonna be
the pivotal moment, and I feel like

479
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:10.760
that is the moment where you see
Ladybird's mother in her. Yes, you

480
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.480
see that, that empathy and that
comforting you know, because their mom's a

481
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.360
nurse. She this is what she
does. She's a nurse at a psychiatric

482
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.800
facility, yes, psychiatric host.
So you see that side of her finally

483
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.800
naturally emerge from Ladybird, which I
thought was a beautiful thing. That moment

484
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:35.079
almost did it for me, but
I got to call out what I feel

485
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:39.599
is the pivotal moment is the moment
I was waiting for the entire movie where

486
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:47.320
we're gonna see Ladybird and her mom
truly connect. And that's the Hey,

487
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.360
you wanna you want to have our
Sunday ritual, our Sunday fun day.

488
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.840
And they have this thing where together
they're the only two in the in the

489
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.800
family that know about that, that
share it, and they kind of get

490
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:04.719
to go pretend to be the prospective
buyers at at houses and just move through

491
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:10.760
the houses and just enjoy that that
that that dream because again, you know,

492
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:14.440
Maren even points out like your father
and I didn't think we're gonna be

493
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.519
in this house twenty years later,
like this is not the life that we

494
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.559
wanted and this is not what you
know, but we're in Sacramento. This

495
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.119
is how it is. And so
in that moment, I kind of feel

496
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:30.639
like Lloyd Metcalf's character is is dreaming, she's being she's showing her Ladybird's side,

497
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.599
much like in that scene that we
were just talking about, Ladybird's showing

498
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:39.199
like her motherly side, and it's
just a great it's a beautiful moment between

499
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:42.760
mother and daughter. It's the one
time and that I think the whole movie

500
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.679
almost where you get to see them
have a tender moment and not and not

501
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:52.960
turn brutal. Yeah at like the
next step, right, Yes, that's

502
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.280
what that's what does it enjoying each
other's company. Well, let's take a

503
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.920
quick break and uh and when we
get back Amber, we will enjoy more

504
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:07.880
of your company. All Right,
I've been channeling my inner Schalomey this whole

505
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.079
episode. I'm gonna do it one
more time. Remember, now is the

506
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:15.320
time where we typically are gonna talk
a little bit about our director. I

507
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:21.480
would love to tell you all about
Greta Gerwig. However, I kind of

508
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:27.960
feel like it's already been done very
recently on the Docking Based seventy seven podcast

509
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:35.400
where just last week you were talking
about another Greta Gerwig film, Little Women,

510
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:38.000
and I feel like Liam just knocked
it out of the park. Like

511
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:43.800
listeners, if you want to learn
a little bit more about Greta Gerwig and

512
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:51.000
you want to hear a great episode
about the film Little Women, go check

513
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:55.679
out Amber Lewis on the Docking based
seventy seven podcasts. She's there with Dayton,

514
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.320
she's there with Liam, she's there
with Robert, and they are going

515
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:06.360
to give you a great, great
deep dive on on Greta Gerwigs Little Women.

516
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:13.760
So having said that, Amber,
we will talk about a few of

517
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:20.840
her movies. We have been talking
about Greta Gerwigs' directorial debut twenty seventeen's Lady

518
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:28.119
Bird. Two years later, twenty
nineteen, she does what I understand is

519
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:35.679
the seventh film adaptation of Little Women, And again I will direct you right

520
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:39.639
back to the docu Base seventy seven
podcast because I don't know what more we

521
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:46.480
could say on this show that you
guys didn't say on that episode. But

522
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:52.159
Amber, I will ask you,
is Greta Gerwigs Little Women the definitive version.

523
00:42:52.920 --> 00:43:00.360
No, the nineteen ninety four version
is arguing the most faithful to the

524
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.960
book. But what Greta Gerwick did, which is just the singularness of vision

525
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:13.440
that she has, is she broke
apart the storytelling and tells the story with

526
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.480
all of the high points that you
have to hit. You have to hit

527
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:22.199
where Joe cuts her hair, and
you have to hit where they give their

528
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:27.760
breakfast away, and there's all these
different story points that need to be there,

529
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:32.880
but she breaks it apart and tells
it alternating between the girls when they're

530
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:37.920
older and the girls when they were
younger. That just creates this unique flow

531
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:44.519
that makes the story come alive in
a whole brand new way. And she

532
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:52.559
plays tribute to Louisa may Alcott by
giving Joe all of these characteristics that are

533
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:58.400
still true to the novel, because
the character of Joe is based on Louisa

534
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:04.800
may Alcott, but she gave her
specific characteristics that were true to life.

535
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:12.000
Following twenty nineteen's Little Women, we
arrived to last year's Barbie, the one

536
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:21.519
billion dollar Juggernaut slash Oscar snubbed movie. If you want to know exactly what

537
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.599
I feel about this movie, please
check out our Back to the box Office

538
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:29.719
episode on Barbie. But I want
to hear what Amber thinks of Barbie.

539
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:31.440
I have to believe you've seen this
movie, and now I want to know

540
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:35.800
what your take is. Well,
interestingly enough, I mentioned this in the

541
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:39.800
Little Women episode. I was resistant
to the Greta Gerreg version of Little Women

542
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.159
because I said that, yeah,
I loved the ninety four version. I

543
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:46.719
was like, what is she even
going to do? And I didn't really

544
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:51.280
know her as a filmmaker. You
know, she was new to the game,

545
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:55.400
so I was pleasantly surprised. Well, when this whole Barbie movie was

546
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:59.920
under production, I didn't know that
that was her movie. I just all

547
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.920
I ever heard was Margot Robbie Ryan
Gosling, and I don't like Ryan Goslin,

548
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.800
so I was like, this movie
is ridiculous and I'm not watching this.

549
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:13.239
And then one of the kids that
I nanny for she was like all

550
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:20.199
about it and she's thirteen years old
and couldn't wait to go see it and

551
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.039
loved it. And she was like, miss Lewis, you have to go

552
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:25.199
see this movie. You're not gonna
believe it. And I'm like, all

553
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:30.519
right, I'll go. And the
minute I saw a credit Girwing's name,

554
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:36.039
I was like, oh my cow, this is gonna be good. And

555
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.960
then I was just blown away by
it. And let me put an additional

556
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:44.280
little plug in there. If you
watch it on HBO Max, they actually

557
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:53.039
have a version with ASL interpreters and
you can watch the whole movie with that

558
00:45:53.199 --> 00:46:00.760
accessibility function of ASL interpreters on screen. Now, is that something? Is

559
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.440
that something that's important to greet a
Gerwig or is that like a Max?

560
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:09.400
Yeah, but like they are like
kind of dressed for the for the movie

561
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:15.400
a nice you know, and it
is the most phenomenal thing. So just

562
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:20.079
a little plug in for that.
But that movie just blew me away,

563
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:25.199
just the absolute you know, like
I said, she has this singular filmmaking

564
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:31.039
vision that you know, I think
puts her in this echelon with like Christopher

565
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:37.480
Nolan and Steven Spielberg and you know, these directors that they have this style

566
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:44.519
that is unlike anything else. And
I mean, I just cannot wait to

567
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:46.760
see what she's going to do next. Well, we're gonna we're gonna talk

568
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.599
about that in just a minute.
But one thing I will say about Barbie

569
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:55.039
regardless if you if it's not your
cup of tea, you know, if

570
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:58.800
you never if you've never seen it, you never play on seeing it.

571
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:07.199
That's fine, but you have to
give Greta Gerwig some huge props because one

572
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.840
thing that that film did, it
brought the magic of the movies back to

573
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.320
theaters. I wanted to see,
you know, we were going to cover

574
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:22.679
this and sneak preview passes not available. Friday night shows sold out, Saturday

575
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:27.480
night shows, all Saturday shows sold
out. I was able to find a

576
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.719
matinee where it was still a packed
house. And I'll tell you Amber,

577
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:37.519
I remember that weekend because Dayton and
I saw Oppenheimer and did we went Barbenheimer.

578
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:43.039
One thing I noticed I went to
three separate theaters that weekend in an

579
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.480
attempt to get tickets for Barbie.
And the one thing I saw that told

580
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:52.320
me that the magic of movies is
coming back is all these all these moms

581
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.800
taking their little girls, and all
the little girls are dressed up. All

582
00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:01.719
these women in their thirties and that
grew up playing with Barbie dolls are dressed

583
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:07.360
up for the occasion. They're dressed
up like Barbie. All these millennial aged

584
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:13.559
men and women dressed up like Barbie
and Ken just to have fun with it.

585
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:20.880
I haven't seen that kind of involvement
at a movie theater since since since

586
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.719
like Keaton's Batman came out in eighty
nine. You just don't see that.

587
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:28.719
And we owe that to Greta Gerwig, you know. I think it did

588
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:35.559
show the power of the female dollar. Yes, but it was everybody was

589
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.719
going to see it and enjoying it. It wasn't just women and girls,

590
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:44.960
it was their guys went with them
and maybe learned a little bit. Something

591
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:52.639
like Barbie shows that if a female
director makes a movie with a female message

592
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:57.079
and it's a good story and it's
well acted, everyone's going to come out

593
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.320
and see it. But I think
there is something to be said. Or

594
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:07.239
they had one hundred percent buy in
with the studio and with Rue Mattel,

595
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:13.719
and they had the money and the
advertising behind it to really make it.

596
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:19.679
You know, let's dive into We're
opening the same weekend as Oppenheimer and make

597
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:25.079
it a thing and you know,
really push the fun and the bringing the

598
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:32.400
magic back. And I think that
the more studios learn to get behind female

599
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:37.519
led projects and support them and give
them the hype that they need, I

600
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.079
think, you know, the better
that those projects will do. I think

601
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.960
we can agree Barbie is a good
blueprint to look at if you were I

602
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:49.199
don't care who the director is or
what the what the project is. The

603
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.559
idea should be let's get as many
people back to the theater. Let's put

604
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.039
butts in the seat. And this
is how we do it. We make

605
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:58.440
it an event, we make it
something that you don't want to miss,

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and we're going to have a lot
of fun with it. And I think

607
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that unfortunately we may have to wait
a year or two to see the fruit

608
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of it. But Hollywood responds to
one thing, and that is dollars,

609
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and I think that that's going to
be to the benefit of femal led storytelling

610
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and fema led productions, and I
think you're going to start to see that

611
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change in the future. Let's talk
about what she's got coming up next.

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Now, I'm going to ask you, do you do you happen to know

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what her next project is? I
do not. I think this is gonna

614
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make you happy. She is currently
in pre production on a Chronicles of Narnia

615
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.400
remake. Yes, I did know
that. Yeah, this is gonna be

616
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like she's like, she's all she's
going all in with Netflix. Where it

617
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is they are going to stick close
to the source material. There's not a

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whole lot of information available, so
I don't amber. I don't maybe you

619
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maybe you've maybe you've read something,
maybe maybe you've heard something. I don't

620
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know if this is gonna be like
a a ten episode series. I don't

621
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.000
know if we're signing we're signing up
for like three three pickure deal, or

622
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.360
if it's just like, hey,
we're doing Chronicles of Narnia and if if

623
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:06.719
all goes well, we'll keep going. But I am excited to see what

624
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she does with this property. I
am too, especially because looking at Little

625
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Women, one of the things that's
so amazing about her adaptation is that there

626
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:27.599
passages literally word for word, lifted
right out of the book. And anytime

627
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she said that, anytime she got
stuck, she went back to the book

628
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.000
and there it was. It was
all written out for her. So she

629
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.039
really does I don't think she is
a slave to source material, but I

630
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:45.719
think she has a great respect for
source material. So I feel that that

631
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:52.440
can only benefit a Narnia adaptation.
And what I'm looking at really quickly right

632
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:57.360
here says it's going to be a
feature film version. She clearly has respect

633
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:02.360
for Sarah Sharonin. They haven't announced
any casting for this yet, but I'm

634
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:06.880
going to ask you, like,
who do we get sar Sharonin to play

635
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.480
in Chronicles and Onia? Let's have
her eat up some white Witch action.

636
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:14.440
She's gotta be the white Witch,
right, She's gotta be JADUs Like,

637
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.960
come on, all right, we're
on the same page. I'm happily team

638
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:25.039
Amber right now at this point.
So this is a great coming of age

639
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:31.119
comedy slash drama, a drama da
if you will, I highly recommend it.

640
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It's currently streaming on twob Amber.
I have to believe that you highly

641
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:40.639
recommend it as well. Yes,
one hundred and ten. I think it

642
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:45.800
is, you know, like I
said at the beginning, it's it's in

643
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:51.000
the Parthenon with the Breakfast Club,
with Clueless, you know, with all

644
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.960
those great coming of age stories.
Just add this to the list. Well,

645
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:58.480
listeners, we want to know what
you think of Lady Bird. You

646
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:01.320
can let us know on social media. We're on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.

647
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:07.360
You can check out a Film by
Podcast dot com for all your favorite

648
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:12.079
film and TV articles and our entire
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649
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.920
the platforms. You can write to
us at a Film by a Podcast at

650
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:21.559
gmail dot com with your questions,
comments and concerns. I gotta tell you

651
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:25.320
we have recently seen quite a surge
on social media. We got like something

652
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:30.119
like eighty new followers just a few
days ago. One of one of them

653
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:37.639
reached out, and we now have
something on the books coming in like a

654
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:42.719
springtime. We're gonna we're gonna be
covering a movie that a listener reached out

655
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.360
to us and said, please,
you gotta do this movie. So when

656
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:50.480
we say hey, talk to us
on social media, that might be the

657
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.119
kind of response you get. So
hit us up because we may just read

658
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:57.119
your response on the show. We
may just send you some a film by

659
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:02.400
Swag, or we may just revise
our schedule though to add a movie in

660
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:07.880
that we weren't planning to. You
can join us for our Star Trek themed

661
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:14.280
series Phaser set to Stun tomorrow.
Wayne, David and Scott are continuing their

662
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:19.559
conversation about Star Trek the Next Generation
with their top ten episodes of season five.

663
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.119
Amber, I know you're a big
TNG fan. I have recently become

664
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:28.039
one, and I am loving what
I'm seeing. Yeah. That Phaser set

665
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:34.039
to sun is I wait for it
is my favorite series is so good and

666
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:37.440
I have to block out like a
huge chunk of time because they are spot

667
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.320
on with their episode choices. You
got, Yeah, you gotta go back

668
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:43.480
and like, why okay, now
I gotta watch I got ten episodes to

669
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:45.760
watch. Yeah, I've listen.
I've been after them like can we get

670
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:49.280
more? And they're like, hey, we're cranking out as fast as we

671
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:53.119
can. So you know they'll be
back tomorrow though, and on Friday,

672
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:59.400
our limited series A Film at forty
five will celebrate the forty fifth anniversary of

673
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:04.840
the China s. I'll tell you
if you if you didn't have concerns about

674
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:08.119
nuclear mountdowns before. This is one
movie that will change your mind. I

675
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:15.360
think Amber got to thank you for
stopping by again. We'll get you International

676
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.960
Women's Day. I had to come
up on our red you had to Yeah,

677
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.119
we had to have you back,
and you'll be back again. Like,

678
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.039
well, let's for our listeners.
Maybe this is the first time listener

679
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:31.039
listen to this episode. You have
this month alone, You've you've been with

680
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:35.840
us for a film at forty five, you joined David Scott, you talked

681
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:42.760
talked a good deal about Norma Ray. You and I just talked about nineteen

682
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:47.280
ninety six is Mary Riley. And
I'm excited because before the month's over,

683
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:52.679
you're coming back and we're going to
talk about the craft with with our friend

684
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:57.800
Amanda Janic. Right. Yes,
we are doing Women's History Month, proud,

685
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.840
you know. And Amber is there
with as many as her schedule will

686
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:06.199
allow. So yes, it's only
there are more I do have, like

687
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:10.159
my real job though, I know
we're talking to we're talking to payroll.

688
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:15.920
We're gonna see what we can do
for you, you know. Yeah,

689
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.480
thanks a lot, Amber, and
to all of you out there that are

690
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:28.639
hitting the like subscribe and follow buttons. Thanks for listening. Maybe I should

691
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:32.920
turn silence, tell myself I didn't
care.